The Orthodox Missal

A brief overview of "The Orthodox Missal," the 1995 edition by St. Luke's Priory Press. This missal was prepared for use in the Western Rite parishes of the Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America.
In this video, I compare the Rites of St. Tikhon and St. Gregory to the 1928 American Book of Common Prayer and to the Traditional Latin Mass.
00:00 Introduction
01:07 Table of Contents
02:25 The Circumcision of the Lord
05:02 Easter Week
05:47 The Rite of St. Tikhon
13:53 The Rite of St. Gregory
17:48 Concluding Comments

[@OrthodoxReview]

The history of the western rite, especially it's publishing history, is pretty cool. Most western rite publications (in and from the Antiochian archdiocese) are handled by Lancelot Andrewes press. They have a version of the Missal that I, unfortunately, haven't hadvthe opportunity to review yet. Well done!

[@nickbowden5516]

Helpful video as always. I'd love to see you do a similar run through the Andrewes Press version of the Book of Common Prayer, which is also meant for Orthodox use, as I recall.

[@shawnbrewer7]

Excellent review, as always! ☦️

[@RGrantJones]

Thanks for saying so, Shawn!

[@dalecaldwell]

Thank you for this video. The Orthodox Missal is a book that has long tempted me on the Lancelot Andewes Press website, and now if I buy it I will know what I am getting. It's interesting that although it 'modernizes' the layout from the 1928 BCP, it loses one of the real conveniences of the ;28 book, in which the Canon of the Mass is printed entirely on two facing pages so that one needs no page turns.

[@RGrantJones]

Thank you for commenting, dale!

[@RGrantJones]

Oh, and I agree with you about the convenience of the '28 book's layout in the canon.

[@danivuk2036]

Great video, as always. Intersting. I hope you are having a great day. God Bless.

[@RGrantJones]

Thanks for the kind comment, Dani! All's well here. Hope you're having a pleasant Saturday.

[@marlon697]

You could make a comparison between the Western rite Orthodox Book of Common Prayer by Lancelot Andrew Press and the 1928 Book of Common Prayer.

[@ma-mo]

I very much appreciate and enjoy these liturgical comparisons.

[@RGrantJones]

Thank you for letting me know, Moving About and Manipulating Objects!

[@jofuf]

Thank you for making this comparison. It's interesting to see just how similar these liturgical texts are to the non-Orthodox sources on which they were based. Your videos are always so thorough.

[@RGrantJones]

Thank you for the encouraging comment, Joseph!

[@Laly7]

Great video! Thank you!! God bless you! ❤️🙏

[@RGrantJones]

Thank you for the encouraging comment!

[@matthewryanbyers]

Thanks so much for this God bless you

[@jimmu2008]

Great video! Just a couple of days ago, I ordered a copy of the "Western Rite Service Book" from Antiochian Village. It is currently on sale for just 10 dollars.

[@RGrantJones]

Thanks for the encouraging comment, James! I haven't seen the service book. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts about it.

[@jimmu2008]

@@RGrantJones I will be sure to do so after it arrives!

[@jimmu2008]

@@RGrantJones BTW, is there more than one Book of Common Prayer from the 1920s? I am confused about the various editions. I have even seen some in eBay with a 1945 certification.

[@RGrantJones]

@@jimmu2008 - I don't know anything about a 1945 BCP. I've learned to say 1928 *American* BCP because there was a British BCP was proposed that same year, though never approved. The '28 book was revised in 1979. I've never used that book. The ACNA published their own BCP in 2019. I intend to review it some day.

[@RGrantJones]

@@jimmu2008 - I did a little research on that question, and I believe all the certification means is that the John Wallace Suter, who served as custodian of the prayer book for a period beginning in 1942, certified that the printing in 1945 conformed to the standard copy. Massey Shepherd explains in his commentary that this is necessary because the prayer book is not copyrighted and anyone may publish amended or enlarged versions of it. "But only certain editions are canonically permissible for use in the Church's services"; editions that conform to the standard copy.

[@Josh-yk6xk]

Hi, Could you do a video on your favourite books on New Testament Criticism/ Theology. Basically any New Testament scholarship you enjoyed and can recommend. Thanks for all the videos.

[@larrym.johnson9219]

Interesting review Thank you. 👍🤟⛪👨‍👩‍👧‍👦🇺🇸🚛🇨🇦

[@RGrantJones]

You're welcome, Larrym.! Thanks for commenting.

[@dalecaldwell]

It stries me as a bit odd, since it seems that you have nearly every book, a great convenience for those who are trying todecide what to purchase next, that you haven't reviewed the Lanceot Andrewes Press Book ofCommon Prayer. Might such a review be in the works?

[@RGrantJones]

That work has been recommended to me, and I may get to it at some point, dale. Thanks for commenting!

[@nicholasgregoris3958]

How does one go about purchasing a copy of "The Orthodox Missal"?

[@RGrantJones]

www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Missal-According-Antiochaian-Archdiocese/dp/B000PGE0MI

[@budhadityachakraborty6772]

Can you please say something about the spelling of the word Kalender... why it is spelt in German fashion ?

[@RGrantJones]

The spelling kalendar is common for ecclesiastical calendars, but why that's so, I don't know. Thanks for commenting!

[@Manga_4x]

❤️🙏☦️

[@RGrantJones]

Thank you for commenting, Valante!

[@wessbess]

Hey show your face once in while!! I am interested in seeing the person who is talking to me. Thanks for your excellent work

[@RGrantJones]

Occasionally I show up in a reflection. Thanks for the kind comment!

[@astudent5638]

Any plans to look at an anglican missal?

[@RGrantJones]

I have a copy of _The People's Anglican Missal in the American Edition_ from 1961, published by the Frank Gavin Liturgical Foundation. Would that be of interest?

[@astudent5638]

@@RGrantJones to me yes, I don't know about your other viewers. I've never seen an anglican missal.

[@iagoofdraiggwyn98]

@@RGrantJones ive actually really been wanting to see it

[@RGrantJones]

@@iagoofdraiggwyn98 - I'll try to post a review soon. Thanks for letting me know.

[@iagoofdraiggwyn98]

@@RGrantJones Awesomeness 😁. Thank you!

[@hassanmirza2392]

Is this something like the Anglican Book of Common Prayers?

[@RGrantJones]

Yes. It's like the Roman Catholic Missal, also.

[@hassanmirza2392]

@@RGrantJones A question: Why would Church Fathers arrange the Hebrew Bible books in a different order than the traditional Jewish order of Torah, Prophets, and Books? Jesus himself and his twelve Apostles talks about this order and mentions The Law, Prophets, and Pslams (part of Books) and mention no Apocrypha. Is the Christian order of books in the Hebrew Bible more Chronological? Or did the Church Fathers do that just to distinguish themselves from the Jewish theology?

[@RGrantJones]

@@hassanmirza2392 - This is a topic I don't know very much about. I do know that the earliest complete codices of the Bible we possess date to the fourth century, written in Greek. The order of the books differs somewhat from one manuscript to another. Why the scribes decided to order them as they did, I don't know. The order of the books in the oldest Hebrew manuscript, the Leningrad codex, which is much later, differs from that in modern Hebrew Bibles also. It seems that the order of the books in both Christian and Hebrew Bibles was standardized later than our earliest manuscripts. I haven't investigated to discover who was responsible.

[@hassanmirza2392]

@@RGrantJones Actually the oldest MT text was Aleppo Codex and is older by a few decades than Leningrad Codex, but the Torah part of it was destroyed in Anti-Jewish riots in Syria due to the formation of the state of Israel. It has been restored partially and is called 'Jersulum Crown' and is hosted by an Israeli university. I think it is the official Bible of the Israeli senate. But that makes Leningrad Codex the oldest MT complete copy out there.

[@RGrantJones]

@@hassanmirza2392 - thanks for the correction!

[@flyingisaac2186]

That's the biggest BCP I've ever seen. I have one or two and the print is tiny. Protestants must have powerful eyesight.

[@RGrantJones]

Thanks for commenting, Flying Isaac!