'The Other Professionals' World in Action 1979 - Troubles Documentary

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'The Other Professionals' World in Action 1979 - Troubles Documentary
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[@stephenholmes1036]

World in Action the best documentary series in the UK

[@NewMinority]

This music was bed time when we was kids 😮

[@chrisholland7367]

Lol Monday nights right remember it well.

[@NewMinority]

@@chrisholland7367 sometimes we was lucky enough to make it to the Sweeny at 9pm

[@Jazzjasey]

I'm in Australia and it was on air at 2am, being aged about 5 I can still remember my mother awake and drinking...

[@Rosco-P.Coldchain]

Born in 71 and totally agree..Great times aye ❤

[@davidmccann9811]

​​@@NewMinority The first time I was allowed to stay up past 9 pm was to watch the television premier of the original 'Planet of the Apes' movie. And I had to help my mum with a load of chores all week to earn that treat. It seems quite funny now.

[@tutts999]

That prog rock theme tune send shivers down my spine. Suddenly I'm 10 years old.

[@fernandes5986]

It's an amazing prog tune.

[@1969JohnnyM]

Hearing Atkins at the end saying the PIRA's actions are not politically motivated is beyond stupid. We know the British Government is deceitful but here he its not contempt to the Irish intelligence but to his own people, does he think English people are that dumb and gullible. Whatever you think of Irish Republicanism its clearly motivated by political and more importantly nationalistic ideals.

[@seymourclearly]

Not to mention the phycopathic blood thirstyness of republicanism- they thought it ok to blow up innocent shoppers in order to bring about their antidemocraric political ends against the will of the people of northern ireland

[@jamestaylor5341]

Dumb and gullible? You mean the Irish?

[@seanmccann8368]

Sadly the brits are even dumber than their political leaders think they are.

[@paulgreen1821]

Who needs the kind of investigative journalism you used to get from ‘World in Action’ when today we’ve got Stacey Dooley?

[@AnonAnonAnon]

21:50 "Can the Provos be beaten? Yes!" And yet I did two tours in Northern Ireland, first in 1988 the next in 1994 that lasted until the summer of 1997. I never underestimated the IRA or any of the paramilitary groups from both sides of the divide. A lot of these men and women were very capable, very well organised, had military training and didn't need expensive scopes or SAM missiles, a pistol was just as effective, and AK even more so. And don't forget, the British Army went into Ulster to protect the Catholics from the violence and death dealt by protestants with the RUC looking on. Just a shame those same protectors were eventually used against Catholics. Lastly, this was a war. It wasn't a civil disturbance or internal conflict. It was war. I deployed a few weeks after the Corporal Killings. I was s hitting bricks going. Six long and tiring months, virtually every day or week an incident. But I have to say, the best time of my life, doing a job that I loved, that was dangerous and exciting.

[@ATLmodK]

A very thoughtful and insightful comment.

[@josephheaney7720]

Brits easy beaten

[@anthonydonlan3140]

Try Gaza if you're bored

[@user-rh4uw8cb2j]

That theme music brings back memories!

[@johnpatrick6998]

A small minority also supported the Easter rising and that changed when the Brits executed the leaders.

[@bpd1111]

It's funny the Irish were always the terrorists. No issue with their 'brave boys' indiscriminately shooting into a crowd at a sports match. Loyalists paramilitaries as proxy for the british security forces targeted unarmed civilians. The IRA targeted sectarian security forces proping up an apartheid state. The media is a powerful weapon.

[@user-gh8bp9be1n]

A small.minority?.?!!! Are u kidding

[@chrisjohnston3409]

Likely the catalyst that caused the mess. I'm sure a British General at the time was quoted as saying "we've lost ireland" after that incident

[@tommy-0791]

​@@user-gh8bp9be1nNo, he's not kidding he's 100% correct. Read up. 👍

[@speakertreatz]

Thank you ATL

[@artinconstruction9070]

Fantastic documentary, Thanks for uploading it, I live in Australia and share your stuff with my Australian friends, They had no idea of how deep it went, They fully believed it was A religious conflict,

[@Freshie13]

Yeah that’s coz the Australian government feed us propaganda fabricated by the crown. Easyyyy moiteee.

[@John316OBrian-cm4fj]

The British want the world to believe its about religion ,that deflects attention from their imperialism

[@rickster101]

Thanks ATL fantastic channel hard hitting documentary the World in action always some of the best 👍

[@johnmchugh-dt7gg]

Excellent documentary, Thanks.

[@_Tabasco]

Interesting documentary Thanks for posting

[@ATroubledLand]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@michaelh9554]

The subtlety of the Glover memo is missed in all of this, although Atkins alludes to it in his interview, it was part of an internal British security forces turf war. Remember, it was Glover himself who leaked the document, he drew it up with the express intention of leaking it. In 1979 the RUC was being put in the forefront of the campaign to contain the Provos, and the Army were very unhappy about this. Northern Ireland was the last operational campaign for them, the Empire was gone and they had nowhere else left to play their games. A lot of the Glover report was alarmist, the Provos never got these high-tech sniper scopes, they never got the SAMs. The whole purpose was to get the new Tory government to give back control to the Army, they played it heavy with Margaret Thatcher when she flew in after Warrenpoint. In the end she held firm and the RUC retained primacy and the Army looked a bit silly after it all. And let's not forget the propaganda that the Sinn Fein side was putting out. Morale in the prisons in 1979 was at absolute rock bottom, there was talk of calling off the blanket protest, this was two years before the hunger strike and the campaign was going nowhere. Oh, and Father Wilson was talking sheet when he claimed that Gerry Adams was engaged in peaceful protests in 1970, he might have fooled the ITV team, the rest of us know better.

[@polmacdhomhnaill3021]

Thank You for the upload TTL.

[@Avaloctus]

Thanks for sharing ! Greetings from Germany....✌

[@chriscolton6329]

'Sniper at work'...😉

[@williammohan9784]

excellent documentary

[@paulwsdwyer]

The attitude of Atkins and his ilk that the provisionals were mindless and had no political motivation was incredibly naive and prolonged the conflict

[@seymourclearly]

The terrorists could have stopped their murdering at any time if they chose to

[@paulwsdwyer]

Have you ever considered why these "terrorists" started in the first place?@@seymourclearly

[@seymourclearly]

@@paulwsdwyer it is wrong to go about murdering people because you want a political change, that has happened a lot in ireland and the actions of the terrorists have destroyed many lives including mine- unless you have lived trough it you cant understand and by the way people who think it ok to blow up people doing their shopping arent beyond telling a few lies about their cause- dont believe the murderers listen to the people who are peaceful in their actions

[@bpd1111]

​@@paulwsdwyerlikely a daily mail reader mate. Conditioned to have no independent thought. Can only imagine his thoughts on immigrants.

[@eagleclaw1179]

@@seymourclearly If the British terrorists didn’t murder Irish citizens

[@andypotter6886]

Considering this was aired in 1979 and the war carried on for another 16 years after this and probably would have carried on for years afterwards as well the british soldiers were right about the IRA being resilient and that they would carry on fighting for years if needed too. Shame they werent listened too earlier. The british army were originslly supposed to have been sent to Ireland to help the catholics that were being persecuted but instead fought against them. Thats what escalated the troubles in Northern Ireland

[@olliepascoe311]

this all reminds me of my friend,he grew up in belfast till his early teens,him and his brother had a plastic bullet collection

[@melissabyrne8749]

Thanks

[@edwardodonnell6857]

Whenever people are treated with disrespect discrimination especially political and economic it equals war simple as.

[@MarkIRE1]

The first question that should be asked is why are there men with English accents on the island of Ireland determining who and who isn't a terrorist, invading a land that is not your own is terrorism, not the people.who are fighting against the invaders

[@imixmuan9081]

Answer to first question: Not everyone with an Irish accent is a) a Catholic b) wants to be unified with the Republic of Ireland. Just as not everyone with an English accent are English. My family: Irish, Catholic, from the north mostly, fiercely loyal to Crown. Why? I have no idea, but probably because they were mostly military, Royal Navy and Army, and moved to England in 1900. They had no time for Home Rule, Republicans, or Republicanism. One great uncle of mine was a tee-tolling, vegetarian IRA gun runner in the war of Independence and civil war, but the rest...fought for the Crown. Answer to second question: A terrorist is someone who uses violence to achieve a political goal and is not a uniformed soldier of a recognized nation state. The nation state here is defined as the agent that exercises the legitimate expression of violence within a given geographic area. Answer to third question, or statement: Northern Ireland is, and was a part of the United Kingdom since 1922, so, there was no invasion. Also, why are we even discussing this? The IRA gave up the use of violence in 1998 with the Good Friday agreement, and Brexit will almost certainly lead to unification of Ulster and the Republic in....I'd say no more than a decade. So....the IRA didn't win the war, but won the peace, and the Brits, like always, won the war and lost the peace. Bloody hilarious, if you stop think about it.

[@sheronasims6783]

All of America should be native American then. USA is 100% terrorist then

[@mickymac6571]

The army went in to northern Ireland in 1969 to protect the Catholic communities not as invaders,

[@seanmccann8368]

@@mickymac6571 But why didn't they do that? I remember Bloody Sunday and the Divis and Ballymurphy massacres but I haven't heard of a single massacre of unionists by brit soldiers or police.

[@mickymac6571]

@@seanmccann8368 they did but the Catholic community turned on them, it's all on Google if you want to learn more.

[@Barrybullthiefpouters]

You have to laugh there talking to (housewife) from bally/m and asking her questions she sitting answering and can tell she is fully paid up member of P.I.R.A .. T.A.L GODBLESS FROM GLASGOW .

[@anthonyduffy1278]

Looking back, the bankrupt mentality of the British political leadership was appalling. They actually couldn’t see that the IRA campaign was in any way politically driven. Unbelievable for, by the sound of their accents, an expensively educated cohort of people. As the former Cork IRA Commander, Tom Barry commented in the 1920’s, when discussing the morality of armed resistance, ‘Down they (The British) went down into the mire and down we went after them’ The 1970’s Irish fight back was needed at the time in my opinion, but as the late QE2 said, “Everyone Wishes that things had been done differently or not at all!” That I think sums up my thinking on this. A terrible situation driven by history and fuelled by contemporary events. Throughly regrettable!

[@stephenholmes1036]

John Hume spoke most sense.

[@thejiggitygiggity90]

@@stephenholmes1036 Wheres the united Ireland though, its still part of the UK. The PIRA fought to free the nation and failed by the looks of it. people died for nothing and that brings me no joy in saying that. the british should of left in 1998 and the country should of been united in 2000

[@Kenneth-cn8dx]

Looking at the comments majority of people haven't watched past the first five minutes.

[@noka1979]

i remember the huge thump of tbe bombs, video does it no justice, i heard many of them and seen horrible things as a child.

[@michaelward4826]

Serious set of eyebrows on Roy 😨🤪🫣

[@anthonydonlan3140]

Is that the fourth fifth or sixth think tank that's come to the same conclusion.... Ego is the third leg of chair, especially if you know someone else will be sat on it when it takes the strain....

[@RJH1971]

17:18 💚 fascinating

[@bernarddorrian973]

I remember the graffiti at the time " Humphey Who ?" Hardly a ringing endorsement .

[@royalordinance]

Freddie was a Walk-in. Seriously. When the ra beat him badly, they did GOOD.

[@ashleyupshall7641]

32 counties end of.

[@northred4930]

They just never got it 😂

[@mephistoXFC459V]

"Do you think the Provisionals can be beaten?" "Yes." "Why?" "Because I believe one can beat them." 🙄

[@arronblack67]

Mr Glover certainly knew the lads would never ever be beaten militarily ✊🏻🇮🇪

[@maxpaws3977]

Yet the lads got conned into singing the good friday agreement (a real crap deal) and are now a political Left political party which is allowing immigration to take over the island.

[@andrewlea3796]

They were beaten in the end by the intelligence capability of the brits and the amount of our people they had working for them ….

[@keithpringle3940]

Mr Glover was a smart man, that's why he was the Brigadier! You can't really beat an idealism with brutality because you only create more volunteers to the ideal. Post war/colonial Britain were never going to budge on the matter so what did we expect to happen? "The lads" would never be beaten militarily because "the Brits" were fighting with one arm tied behind their backs!

[@arronblack67]

@@keithpringle3940 explain to me how they where “fighting with one arm behind their backs” the Brits had everything in terms of technology, intelligence and boots on the ground and still couldn’t break the Provos! Also backed up by udr ruc and loyalist death squads.

[@deanodog3667]

​@@andrewlea3796if you say so !lol

[@jamescornflake1542]

21:11 A tea cosy?

[@darrenfarrell-bn2cb]

3:51 Black And Tan Uniform Still Well Alive I See.

[@fabulousgerro661]

I never thought peace would be achieved. Such was the dark demonic hatred. People have a chance at living now.

[@SimDeck]

Lokks like the Brits won in the end. What a waste of life it all was.

[@susanegittins6258]

Very interesting... Such British arrogance/ignorance...neverending...but, Ireland will be free one day soon.🇺🇸🇮🇪

[@TheEx3rgj]

No it won’t because the rest of Ireland don’t want them.

[@williammohan9784]

do you mind me asking you where in Ireland you are from.

[@TheEx3rgj]

@@williammohan9784 My mother was from Dublin, I have Irish relatives and friends all over the world and they all say they wouldn’t want that toxic part of Ireland, also they say the ira don’t represent them.

[@williammohan9784]

@@TheEx3rgj good as they dont represent me either

[@williammohan9784]

still waiting

[@user-sj1xn7wm2b]

Óglaígh Ná hEíreánn , Tíocfaídh Ár Lá , Saoírse , Eíre Nuá , Erín Go Brágh !! #RSF #Saoradh

[@brucesinclair5601]

Did a tour with Royal Scots Greys ,with Duke of Kent As our Sqn Leader !Omagh ,borders !

[@raygrant2439]

Investigative journalism, documentary Programmes from World in Action and Panorama were always interesting. Glover report "Leaked" !!? The military comments seem to have a intelligence slant to it. Whenever they say there is no SAS, believe they are there. Whenever they say they have no knowledge of supply lines and structure South of the border, believe that it is under surveillance! Narrow Water happen 6 weeks after this episode was aired.

[@user-mq4pw3lv3s]

Not really they are mindless why block government rule for direct rule

[@nickhealey3388]

We never learn , men will always fight if their land is occupied by people who have no claim to that land. We invaded Afghanistan 3 times over 200 years and never conquered the people. If a foreign country invaded Britain wouldn’t we fight back? Wake up people.

[@sheronasims6783]

Wr are being invaded. Indeed all Europe is

[@Ian-mj4pt]

Loads don't think it will ever happen to them because they are British and are special

[@nickhealey3388]

@@Ian-mj4pt are you British? I am and the way this government runs the country I believe anything

[@3158dave]

Atkins at the end is why the British where held to a stand still

[@KimPhilby203]

Held to a standstill? They had Provisionals penetrated at every level..

[@user-mq4pw3lv3s]

They happly attacked me in last 5 years to upstart me and committed attacks

[@FRM101]

16:30 😂

[@RJH1971]

proper order ;)

[@issimondias]

Professionals?

[@williamcreighton1417]

Humphrey just stick your fingers in your ears and go la la la la la. Typical brit attitude. Just leave.

[@PhillipMolloy-kk8zu]

No winners

[@Barrybullthiefpouters]

That Atkins has not clue... But when did people stop talking that old English accent way that all talk to now in 2023 you don't hear people talk like that anymore it's like lost accent (thank fuck) but how did talk like that was school ?and schools stopped teaching it or what was it when did it stop I've always wondered that . Hear that accent in old films of ww2 stuff (ohh gooly old chap ... ohhh teddy ohh old boy ) when did that die out all that was it 80s cause this is 80s but even 90s can't rember many talkin like this sort of just disappeared of radar .. as I say thank fuck but I've always wondered ???

[@chriscolton6329]

😂 I'd say the nineties. You still had a few ageing ex public school type dinosaurs floating about on the box at that point. Long gone now, though, thankfully lol...

[@user-bn7ws2gi2j]

So all ira was on the dole is this correct ..

[@ATroubledLand]

No, watch the featured video on the main channel for a more in depth understanding from former members. The doc is called "Talking to the Enemy"

[@kenneycooney5122]

6:37. As you know in Northern Ireland we act within the Law. 😂😂😂

[@harriheliovaara5310]

Gerry Adams was never the leader of the IRA😂😂 A top strategist but never the leader of the Oglachs who never feared nor ever faltered .

[@lewismorgan839]

The English had moles at all levels now we know...

[@bpd1111]

Would you like know the twist at the end of the story the british actually want the same thing as the IRA.

[@Stanly-Stud]

When the SAS got them the big tough terrorists cried about it..😂

[@stockman747]

A certain man put maners in the sas at the glenshane pass .the captain died at the scene one died two days later ,one came out of hospital on a wheelchair .

[@user-lo3bp2gb8d]

Martin Doherty knew how to use the M60 goodbye to the caption

[@williambeck1574]

R.I.P vol Francis Hughes..S.A.S slayer 🇮🇪

[@user-ee7fi7pv5t]

And In The 70s, Most SAS, Were Catholics From Glasgow, Work That One Out, Lets Hope They Were Deployed Elsewhere, And Not DEPLOYED, Against Other Catholics, But You Know What The English Are Like, They Only Look After Each Other, As Long As They're Queer,😅😂😊

[@lt8400]

How many did he get? ​@@williambeck1574