The Otto is Pandora Theory... And Why it Sucks! Re:Zero Pandora Theory (Season 2 Spoilers)

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NatalieXHunter

NatalieXHunter

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@fanboy4382
@fanboy4382 4 жыл бұрын
Natalie: "This theory is stupid." Me: "Maybe that's what Pandora wants you to think."
@SilverYPheonix
@SilverYPheonix 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao good stuff
@otakulifeoftrueculture777
@otakulifeoftrueculture777 3 жыл бұрын
yeah exactly
@the-secret
@the-secret 3 жыл бұрын
MY GOD SO PANDORA IS VERY POWERFULL THAT SHE CAN MAIPULATE YOU IN REAL LIFE
@yashobantadash6462
@yashobantadash6462 3 жыл бұрын
I just think Otto is pandoras brainwashed brother
@twofour9515
@twofour9515 3 жыл бұрын
MY THEORY: OTTO SPELLED BACKWARDS IS "OTTO" THUS OTTO IS THE BEGINNING AND THE END
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 3 жыл бұрын
Rearrange the letters of OTTO and you get TOTO. Thus Otto likes '80s music.
@twofour9515
@twofour9515 3 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter lol love your content
@mimijones7294
@mimijones7294 4 жыл бұрын
Otto too precious to be Pandora
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@CaptainKa101
@CaptainKa101 4 жыл бұрын
True true
@seniorsterling1064
@seniorsterling1064 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter wouldn't tht be the point Pandora has shown mind manipulation abilities why can't she alter her own
@NoQuestionsAskedd
@NoQuestionsAskedd 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂And yeah Let's not forget both of them appeared in JoJo's Bizarre adventures as Kids (Minor Role)
@someguyfromuganda2088
@someguyfromuganda2088 4 жыл бұрын
Look, cool arguments and all, but did you see the "fanart" where Otto is dressed as Pandora? He gave Felix and Astolfo a run for their money, I rest my case.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha yeah, nearly used it for my thumbnail... That reminds me, I really should make a video about cross-dressing Subaru.
@someguyfromuganda2088
@someguyfromuganda2088 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter Do it. Right now. First make that Priscilla video, and then talk about Natsuki-chan.
@hideogayjima5699
@hideogayjima5699 4 жыл бұрын
@@someguyfromuganda2088 i'm guessin' it's within your rights to recieve a Natsumi video.
@someguyfromuganda2088
@someguyfromuganda2088 4 жыл бұрын
@@hideogayjima5699 Yes, Ricardo-sama. Praise the Dog Man.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
@@someguyfromuganda2088 I have two other Re:Zero videos partly written but I'll do Natsumi-chan after that 😘
@CaptainKa101
@CaptainKa101 4 жыл бұрын
Fun Theory: Otto will team up with Dogman and rule the world
@hideogayjima5699
@hideogayjima5699 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot confirm nor deny this theory
@darkstick1551
@darkstick1551 4 жыл бұрын
hmm good theory
@NoQuestionsAskedd
@NoQuestionsAskedd 3 жыл бұрын
Then Roswaal would regain his ZA WARUDO to STOP THEM
@10100rsn
@10100rsn 4 жыл бұрын
I think the details of hair color will come into play when more stories of the Witch get told. Two door seals in the world. Two witches that have similar descriptions...
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely, the silver hair thing with Emilia is definitely supposed to be important.
@YuyuHakurei
@YuyuHakurei 3 жыл бұрын
There is a chance that Otto might not have bad luck, but he might be misunderstanding having insanely high luck. The best fate he could have had, might be finding Subaru and so events in his life aligned so that was possible. The reason he keeps finding Subaru is very simple. He's going out of his way to specifically find Subaru. Otto is a merchant and they tend to follow things or people they find interesting. Subaru might be the only person he's found interesting before because he doesn't operate by the same rules everyone else does. That's why no matter what timeline or death Subaru is on in a timeline he always meets Otto. Otto always has the same goals and no matter Subaru's alignment he will always be interesting to Otto. Subaru flat out uses knowledge from a futuristic world than Re Zero takes place in. Merchants take interest in knowledge and unique viewpoints. Now for Pandora. Pandora is so powerful that she seems to be flat out omnipotent. She has knowledge she shouldn't have in events she was not there for. She seems to have some degree of future sight that leads her actions to begin with. However, if she ever did have to appear to Subaru. Her actual real form would be the most effective way to do it. She probably has ways she can turn off her instant kill abilities so that shouldn't really be incentive for her not to. Subaru was a hardcore otaku and pretty girls have always been an incentive for everything else he's ever done in the story. Pandora could conceal all the information she wants. That is if she ever needed to. She doesn't need to. She could be there right now flat out watching his entire story unfold. You can't even perceive her unless she wants you to. I doubt most magic would even work on her. She's in fact so powerful I believe she is the main antagonist of the entire story. She has the best power in the entire series for gathering information. The theory doesn't make sense from the perspective that Pandora literally has nothing to gain for being related to Otto at all. She's too powerful to care about manipulating anyone. Unless she has something to gain from it. She's extremely efficient. She doesn't do anything unless it has a high payoff. When she does manipulate others for a high payoff it is generally extremely op beings that are usually related to the witches cult. I'd think a better theory would be is Subaru being influenced by Pandora. He has ties to the witches cult close enough that he can literally be possessed by Petelgeuse. At the point Subaru is now he literally has the qualities to become an equivalent to a witch. My personal 2 theories are. The beginning of the story is in the future and his memory is erased. He's already lived a long time in this world and his memories were erased for some reason. Also that Subaru is the Arch Bishop of Envy. The reasons I think this is just because the beginning is similar to what happens in Danganronpa. xD Also that it literally makes no sense for Subaru to be important or have anything to do with the Witch of Envy without being something like an Archbishop. I'm an anime only so if I do happen to be right about something it's not a spoiler. xD
@fleurch.2466
@fleurch.2466 2 жыл бұрын
I think Otto's just gay for Subaru simple as
@10100rsn
@10100rsn 4 жыл бұрын
Priscilla's luck might have a little bit to do with Al's abilities. Maybe even more than we think...
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, but I think it is because of her luck that she chose Al as her knight when he didn't win the tournament to decide who it would be. I think Priscilla's high luck pre-dates her knowing Al, but it was what brought her together with him.
@10100rsn
@10100rsn 4 жыл бұрын
​@@NatalieXHunter Whether by fate or by design Al was brought to that world for Priscilla... At least that's what I believe. He was brought to that world about 18 years ago and she is about 18 years old. There must be another connection that we won't know until some point in the bigger story. Maybe her birth triggered his teleporting to that world or maybe he gave birth to her... ;P idk really, but there is some deeper connection there for sure. He can't be that unlucky to be teleported to another world just to be tortured over and over. Maybe she's Pride in disguise and could tell he had some power... Maybe it's just me wanting to believe there is a reason for all his suffering and he wasn't just brought there and abandoned for no reason... but hopefully Arc 7 will sort it out.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think Priscilla can be Pride. Tappei said that people can't have both an authority and a divine protection, and Priscilla has the divine protection of the sun. Also, Sirius also thinks Priscilla seems like she could be Pride, and asks her about it, and Priscilla is pretty repulsed by and dismissive of the idea. Not in an 'I am but I'm hiding it/I am but I've renounced the witch cult' way, but in an 'I'd never even thought of it before' kind of way. I think Al could be pride, for sure, and that would be why he understands Priscilla, who is about the most prideful character there is, but she herself can't have an authority. It's kinda like how scarfdona understands Anastasia well and gets along with her, when Anastasia is the most classically 'greedy' character.
@10100rsn
@10100rsn 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter What about this. Aldebaran is Rifujin na Magonote? :)
@redacted-oo7ne
@redacted-oo7ne 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter i’m not so sure about the al being pride theory, petelguese asked subaru whether he was pride due to his scent of the witch and what not, sirius asked priscilla because of her personality but when al fought capella, she made no mention of it. Also, the previous holder of the pride witch genes was literally devoured by a dragon, and that same dragon was then purified and turned into nothing by volcanica, which might have destroyed the witch genes entirely also stride died before al came to this world
@AlphaSierraHotel117
@AlphaSierraHotel117 4 жыл бұрын
Fun theory: Now that we know of Arc 7 Re Zero things are gonna get more political with all the 4 great nations entering the story Subaru might get some international acclaim. I think there might be a chance that Subaru might get confused for a Lion King candidate. His origins are virtually unknown and to outsiders RBD seems like freakishly good intuition.
@MrHlum
@MrHlum 4 жыл бұрын
Now the people are gonna yell "Petra is Pandora" or "Patrasche is Pandora"
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Uggggggh Petra is nothing! :D
@MrHlum
@MrHlum 4 жыл бұрын
@NatalieXHunter Ah I almost forgot you hate Petra
@RobinFromAshes
@RobinFromAshes 4 жыл бұрын
Hasn't Tappei hyped the Otto-mystery quite a bit? It would feel a bit too simple if it were a "Pandora did it"-thing.. I would rather think that Pandora or Echidna/BoW has some connection to him, but rather that they would use him in a similar manner to like people try to use Subaru. Why he doesn't show up in the gospel might be a way that Echidna set up Roswaal to fail - so a question is whether Otto would show up in the real book of wisdom or not... The idea that Otto would mirror Hoshin is quite cool.. X3
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think he has really hyped it - he said that Otto was a character where, if there was going to be a big reveal about him, it would have to be really big, because he's already revealed his past, kinda thing, not really saying that there even was a mystery there but not ruling it out either. Otto was a character who in his earlier plans wasn't intended to be a major character (like Rem) but that changed as he kept developing the story, so I think it's unlikely there are any big end game mysteries that will involve Otto bombshells, but who knows!
@jacklion109
@jacklion109 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that Otto is Pandora; however, I do think that Otto and Subaru are fated to meet with one another. The real mystery in my opinion is WHY Subaru and Otto are fated to meet one another. Personally, I think it's because Subaru's life would be way different if he never met Otto, and to prevent this, meeting Otto became part of Subaru's fate. Of course it could be some other reason that has yet to be revealed; however, this is just my theory.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I could totally see that.
@masked-feraligatr1094
@masked-feraligatr1094 4 жыл бұрын
There is something suspicious about Otto. But... it’s the same way every character in Re:Zero is suspicious. *Everything* feels like it is being moved forward by powers outside of the main cast’s control. That’s just how this series is.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
For sure. I think the biggest coincidence in the entire series so far is a thing that happens to Garfiel in arc 5. In any other story, it would be like, wow, it's so unrealistic that that would happen, but with Re:Zero, it's more like, OK, what is causing this stuff?
@masked-feraligatr1094
@masked-feraligatr1094 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter Spoilers for anyone who hasn’t read arc 5 ahead What, you’ve never casually met with and had a fight to the death with one of your long dead childhood heroes, causing you to change your perception of yourself and the world? Happens to me all the time.
@mariemohammed9893
@mariemohammed9893 4 жыл бұрын
@@masked-feraligatr1094 spoilers I think she meant the meeting with his mother
@akshaytarde9197
@akshaytarde9197 4 жыл бұрын
@@masked-feraligatr1094 lol I think she meant the other big plot point regarding Garfiel in Arc 5.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I did mean the other thing, but he's not wrong!
@edfmed1080
@edfmed1080 4 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video i have to say that i never liked this theory, in the sense that i think it invalidates one of the important lessons from arc 4: That while you need to have confidence in yourself, you should also rely on your friends and the people you care about sometimes too. I think Otto embodies this concept better than any other character, because he is the one that pulls Subaru out of his unwinnable situation by offering friendship to him. And the possibility of Otto being fake all along makes it all feel... wrong, for lack of better words. Or perhaps i am too attached emotionally to that lesson to think that Otto could be fake and it could be a great plot twist, idk.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree with you (which is one of the points in the video) - it is too important in Subaru's character arc for Otto to be sincere for that to be sacrificed for a twist. There are no shortages of twists in Re:Zero or cool ideas Tappei has, so I don't think he'd resort to wiping out something important just for a surprise.
@edfmed1080
@edfmed1080 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter I really liked your video,is pretty cool and well explained.
@natewentafk
@natewentafk 4 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see a upload
@Somerandomguy524
@Somerandomguy524 2 жыл бұрын
I think that everything that goes on in the show seems to be for a reason, and it is confirmed there are several characters putting events into motion, in my mind it is fairly likely that he coming into contact with Otto is not by chance, just like Subarus love for Emilia, which feels pretty unnatural, it is like he is wired to love her no matter what. It is completely irrational nonsense, so I believe he is being compelled down this path, by either the which or some other unknown force.
@bandarsalh1338
@bandarsalh1338 4 жыл бұрын
I think that Otto is just a character that represents friendship, loyalty and light He's not pandora because he dies
@DanielLopez-ob9jz
@DanielLopez-ob9jz 3 жыл бұрын
In general, I think Otto just isn't supposed to be connected to all this chaos. He fits perfectly as a character who is supposed to bring Subaru back down to earth because he isn't connected to any of it, unless there's some big reveal, but for now, I think he fits a good role in the story.
@azamabdilmajid850
@azamabdilmajid850 2 жыл бұрын
He dies??!!! When?!!
@bandarsalh1338
@bandarsalh1338 2 жыл бұрын
@@azamabdilmajid850 In arc3 and 4
@aryosheva8204
@aryosheva8204 3 жыл бұрын
well in arc 3 there is a chance he meet pandora and get taken as hostage by witch cult. i believe pandora is actually involved in arc 3, the evidence is white whale disappeareance in 3rd loop and crusch hand reattached. but i have another theory about why otto name doesnt included in roswall book. his name got eaten by gluttony, but like *spoiler*, he doesnt turn into sleeping beauty.
@hypnotic313
@hypnotic313 2 жыл бұрын
personally, I think Otto's fated meetings with Subaru was entirely because of Otto's bad luck. Who brings more bad luck into the world than Subaru? He is the ultimate bad luck charm. However, Subaru also has a skill for turning bad luck into good luck and opportunities. Which is exactly what Otto has been needing for his character development. On top of which, in Arc five Otto legitimate wonders to himself, "why did I ever get involved with Subaru? why do I want to go so far out of my way to back him up?" *paraphrasing* So there couldn't be that kind of connection between Otto and Pandora when Otto is helping Subaru of his own occurred. He's confused about it, but he's still willing to do it.
@awesd7925
@awesd7925 3 жыл бұрын
What if Otto showing up in every ifstory is just showing the fact that he is somehing like soulmate of subaru, not in romantic way of course but in friendship way. They are just meant to be together
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that's much more likely.
@bukkegayo
@bukkegayo 4 жыл бұрын
I reeeeaally love the dress and the virtual background! I'm digging the black with hot pink theme you have going on. :3 Interested in the "oh their hair colors are the same so they're related!" stuff. Roswaal and Meili? Never even thought of it lol. Yay Crack!
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
It's not that different to the color scheme in my living room tbh haha! Roswaal and Meili not only have the same color hair, but she also kinda talks like him... I need to research Meili a bit more (I haven't read Apocalypse Girls yet) to see if anything connecting them could even be possible though.
@10100rsn
@10100rsn 4 жыл бұрын
Otto is not Pandora but he is not just some random merchant either. Otto Suwen has the Divine Protection of Soul Language and I believe all those with a Divine Protection has some connection that links them all together and that is why we see him. That is why we see Patrasche. It's why we see Reinhard and Volcanica....
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe, that's an interesting way of thinking about it, but I kinda take divine protections as being a not especially uncommon thing in Re:Zero's world that lots of people who don't appear in the story would also have (just like lots of people can use magic). Patrasche's divine protection is one all ground dragons have, with different types of dragon like water dragons also all having a divine protection each one of them has.
@Sakanade__
@Sakanade__ 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized how super rare Divine Protections are according to one of Tappei's QnAs. I can't believe Stride selectively killed people with Divine Protections. Pfft.
@charlesacker9174
@charlesacker9174 3 жыл бұрын
Uh, so arc 5 spoiler warning Otto goes out to find ashes from Book of wisdom that Ram destroyed, which he doesn't know is a thing that exists. Nobody told him about that, not a single line of dialogue about Roswaal's crazy dedication to the book was shared with Otto. So yeah during the Great Hare attack while Ram and Roswaal are nearly dying comatose and Subaru, Beatrice and Emilia are fighting for their lives, Garf, Fredrica, Petra, and Rem are fleeing the Mansion, Otto is sweeping up ashes of a book. Sorry that is a little suspicious. Like he's a great character, but he's often shady as all hell especially when he's using the highest level magic spells casually. Like there's a reason Otto, Al, Priscilla, and Reinhard are offscreen for the first climax of Arc 5 to sow doubt when pretty much every witch cultist was in the same city.
@LusterCandy18
@LusterCandy18 4 жыл бұрын
While I don't think this theory is true what got me excited to think about is, what if Tappei uses this theory in the sense that it is false but Pandora or someone else makes Subaru believe in the theory or something along those lines. Honestly this is the only way I want this theory to be incorporated.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, something to test Subaru's trust in Otto like that could be really interesting!
@doublehit9165
@doublehit9165 4 жыл бұрын
thanks. its always interesting to listen to theories, there is always some details worth noting down
@zhanahneda3696
@zhanahneda3696 4 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked otto and rem being creations of Pandora but ye it's like really random and out there but I'm pretty sure otto is not a random person maybe Pandora gave him his blessings who knows
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I do like the Rem theory (though, that Pandora created her, not that she secretly is Pandora - Rem is definitely sincere in her actions just like I think Otto needs to be, or it fully breaks a lot of Subaru's development!). But with Rem, there is a good reason why Pandora might have created her (to stop the reincarnated oni god, Ram), whereas with Otto, there's basically nothing there as a motive...
@awesd7925
@awesd7925 3 жыл бұрын
Pandora is basically that meme with two astronauts looking at ___ ,,so its all ___?!,, ,,always has been´´
@Rags-Sgar
@Rags-Sgar 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t see how you can defeat an opponent who can instantly click undo on any event that occurs other than intense mind games
@mwsage8645
@mwsage8645 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely think Otto is a little suspicious but I don’t think Pandora is involved or that he’s aware of it. Maybe he is a reincarnation of Hoshin of the waste or something but who knows
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
The Hoshin thing was just a random thing I said, I haven't really considered whether it could work as a proper theory yet, but who knows. Maybe I'll give it some thought haha!
@mwsage8645
@mwsage8645 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter unfortunately i think if this was the case we'd have to give up on the Kazuma being Hoshin theory since a defining trait of Kazuma is his amazing luck juxtaposed to ottos terrible luck
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I will never give up the Kazuma of the Trash theory!
@topek8693
@topek8693 4 жыл бұрын
Otto's eye coler is gray. I searched through years amount of Q&As for 3 hours just to conferm this information for a comment I made on a video by someone else talking about this theory.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Haha good effort! I mean they are drawn blue sometimes but that makes sense really because a lot of people's eyes look blue or gray in different light. If they're confirmed as gray then they're different to Pandora's.
@RedGold999
@RedGold999 4 жыл бұрын
can you link evidence that states such a thing?
@topek8693
@topek8693 4 жыл бұрын
@@RedGold999 I can link you the website where it's stated, but I can't directory show you the exact answer he's given purely because I don't know how to. So you're going to have to search for the actual thing yourself in the end, hope that's ok for you. The site and all Q&As there are in Japanese and like I said previously, there's years of information so it'll take a while, it took me over 3 hours and I didn't even need translating since I'm Japanese! Also be careful not to click on any of the comments that aren't the one you're looking for. Probably won't be a problem if you're using a computer but if you tap on one by phone, it'll show the whole comment you touched and for some reason it'll send you back to the top of the comments, making you start for scratch. There's also no sorting mechanism as far as I'm aware, so no starting from the oldest comments(aka the bottom). ask.fm/nezumiironyanko Also you need to create an account for it and it also has a app if you prefer that. The app is better than viewing it on a browser (probably) but still a pain to use so I advise you to use a PC if possible. Edit: Forgot to say that the Q&A for Ottumwa's eye color is way down there. I don't know how close to the bottom since I didn't go all the way down due to my phone heating up and lagging a lot because of how long I had been continuously loading new data, but it's at least 3 hours down there in my standards.
@nerfi2983
@nerfi2983 4 жыл бұрын
Pandora objective IS in link with Emilia Subaru is one of the main character which IS very important for Emilia Otto IS a major character in the subaru development like rem. Arc 6 spoiler !!!!! Tappei said that in arc 6, Rem don't wake up by Ley death, Subaru and rem have been teleported, the witch and volcanica attacked the tower or may be someone. Who IS the main treath for volcanica and satella? It's probably Pandora and she IS the only one character that can teleport another character. So with what we know, Pandora is interested by subaru, remember who are the mains characters in subaru development which seems perfects? Otto and Rem... This IS just a theory, because we don't know yet the motivations of Pandora..... but it's seems that rem and probably Otto are importants Characters for Pandora.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I can see what this has to do with Rem, but not really Otto. I just don't think that every person important to Subaru's development is automatically connected to Pandora just because Pandora is interested in Emilia and Subaru supports Emilia. It just seems too convoluted - why wouldn't she be more interested in the person who first connected with Emilia after her time in the forest - Roswaal - rather than a merchant who shows up months later? Rem is connected to both Emilia and the oni, which are both things Pandora seems interested in (assuming she controls the witch cult), but Otto... I really just think he is what he seems to be. I think it was Volcanica rather than Pandora that teleported them at the end of arc 6, to protect them from the WoE (Pandora may be the only regular person that can teleport people around, but Volcanica is a god, and we don't know that they have simply been teleported to a normal place - they could well be somewhere beyond the waterfall or in place beyond space and time like Echidna's dream sanctuary or the hall of memories).
@nerfi2983
@nerfi2983 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter may be we will see soon, but for rem, the only explanation for me of why rem wake up was the authority of Pandora, she can rewrite the reality. Rem can smell the witch scent probably with capella blood (rem if), just why rem?
@yunalesca2387
@yunalesca2387 4 жыл бұрын
satela was the one who told subaru, "do with people who care about you"
@Elfcon
@Elfcon 4 жыл бұрын
16:12 Meili in LN arc 2 has same hair and eyes color as Shaula than Tappei changed it
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
That's true, and then in arc 6 she definitely starts talking kind of Roswaal-ish... I wonder if he came up with some idea about that and kinda changed her to fit...
@Elfcon
@Elfcon 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter I think one of the reasons why he changed Meili design is Shaula in arc 6 Meili will look like loli Shaula It's been 1 years with Emilia's camp so she might take one or two words from them she still a kid Emilia take some words from Fortuna/Petelgeuse
@arthurgomes1343
@arthurgomes1343 4 жыл бұрын
If we think about it, the story of the Pandora box has a lot of similarities with the story of re:zero and with the authorities. However, I never seen anyone talk about that
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
The thing with that is, there are loads of characters with names from mythology, but given the conventions used, it seems more likely that Tappei chose them for their use in astronomy, rather than their connection to the myths themselves. All of the witches for instance have mythological names (except Satella, whose name's meaning is a mystery that will turn out to be important according to Tappei - I have a video about theories on that), but they aren't consistent from that perspective, with most of them being Greek but Minerva being Roman. However, when you consider that they are all also names of bodies in the asteroid belt, that makes them consistent - just as the sin archbishops all have star names. But, since all we really know about Pandora is she really wants to open a sealed thing, well, it's hard not to think the Pandora's Box story comes into Tappei's thinking with her at least!
@arthurgomes1343
@arthurgomes1343 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter Yeahh, you have a point, this is so enigmatic... I'll try to come up with something, I have some things that would make sense
@ma.2089
@ma.2089 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, everything was so serious and then you said “dogman” and it cracked me up
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 3 жыл бұрын
Dog Man always brings joy.
@pavelflorin591
@pavelflorin591 4 жыл бұрын
Otto? Really? Damn ,people think some silly things :)) we all know Pandora is Petra . Nice video again :)
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I think that would require Petra to be interesting, and I can't see that ever happening ;)
@pavelflorin591
@pavelflorin591 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter you're laughing right now but you will see in arc 11 that Petra is revealed to be the last boss:)) keep up the good work and thank you for responding to my silly comment :)
@ThreeEyedMonkeyMan
@ThreeEyedMonkeyMan 3 жыл бұрын
New Theory: Natalie's Dad is connected to Pandora
@istaka1416
@istaka1416 3 жыл бұрын
As long as we don't know what Pandora power is, we probably still can't really debunk or make any strong theory involving her. I just hope Otto fate wasn't controlled by Pandora or something like that. As a story it is really good, but I feel sad for Subaru if that really the case
@CastleOfAvalon
@CastleOfAvalon 4 жыл бұрын
i did not watch the video yet but, i have four points why. 1. He has a backstory we know. 2. He helped Subaru countless times 3. He gave his life for Subaru and actially died. 4. At their first meeting, he tossed Subaru from his Carriage to survive.
@LxDization
@LxDization 3 жыл бұрын
Even if I don't think Otto is Pandora, but I always doubted Otto since the arc 3. Witch cultists never took anyone alive. Never. Why would Otto be special? Why would they capture him alive? It never made sense to me and never will. Petelgeuse and his fingers would simply slaughter him in place. Otto was an acquaintance with a merchant member, Ketty, the one who was a witch cult member, the one who introduced Otto to Subaru, the one who blew himself in a carriage. Then there is Otto's strong strive to approach Roswaal, then his attempt to piece together Roswaal's copy of the tome of Wisdom behind Subaru's back. Even now I can't overlook the fact that Petelgeuse didn't kill him instantly. There is a possibility that Otto is a witch cult member, just like Faust, Sado and Fogg, for example.
@mattmagliocca956
@mattmagliocca956 4 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe this theory is popular except as a popular joke. That said it's hard to say that Pandora doing ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous, would actually be absurd in narrative context because seven arcs in, we still have absolutely NO idea what the implied main villain wants. I mean we know she wants whatever is behind the door in Elior forest but that's a goal not a motive. The real question is why, what is she really up to?
@joaocbcneto
@joaocbcneto 4 жыл бұрын
i always subscribed more to the version of the theory that Otto s a mindwiped spy for Pandora and not Pandora.
@friendlyanomaly6109
@friendlyanomaly6109 3 жыл бұрын
16:08 Why does nobody talk about the fact Krusch and (Petel)geuse have the exact same hair and eye color?
@darkusblader
@darkusblader 4 жыл бұрын
Im probably wrong but i think it has something to do with otto not appearing in roswalls gospel. Well who knows? re zero is only half over so there is plenty of content to be made.
@Acid8UCloud
@Acid8UCloud 4 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff but there was a mistake in the vid. Otto had his blessing from birth and was overwhelmed by it. He was basically learning disability till his older brother show him how to write.
@drayggenndraygenn7005
@drayggenndraygenn7005 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Whether it is true or not,this is one of my favorite theories to think about
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's definitely fun to think about - same as the Rem theory (though I think that one is more likely to be true).
@aidensusername2528
@aidensusername2528 4 жыл бұрын
Theory: Super Saiyan Otto created Pandora
@stormeporter5345
@stormeporter5345 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see that they are using some pictures to take down vids? Be careful!
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
That's why this video has a new background setting and not so many images... But I have to use some or it just looks like a vtuber stream!
@stormeporter5345
@stormeporter5345 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter Sweet! I hate that the community has to deal with this massive sweep when they should be excited that people are dedicating entire channels and communities to their show. Hopefully they'll stop soon.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the channels who have had strikes are all disputing them, but it's a bit of a weird time. I don't have any strikes myself (I think my avatar being over the top stops their AI detecting I use clips and images, but that's just a theory and I wouldn't want to count on it), but a lot of my friends do and it's scary - they are all channels with analysis and reviews and stuff, not people just posting clips or episodes in a shady way.
@DaSickness
@DaSickness 4 жыл бұрын
Spread the love like its the gospel !!
@maxpudney3182
@maxpudney3182 4 жыл бұрын
Otto = natalies dad confirmed?!??!?!?!?!?
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
It's impossible - my dad is a sea captain, and Re:Zero's world has no oceans.
@joshuataylor7443
@joshuataylor7443 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know about ciconia when they cry, it was made by the same guy who did Higurashi and umineko Whan they cry series.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I know it exists, but I don't know anything about the story - I have only played Higurashi (and haven't finished the VN yet).
@joshuataylor7443
@joshuataylor7443 4 жыл бұрын
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@joshuataylor7443
@joshuataylor7443 4 жыл бұрын
What Umineko whan they cry and the fighting game base on it ougon musou kyoku cross.
@laithurz6408
@laithurz6408 Ай бұрын
You should try to lower the music a bit and make your voice louder.
@edi9892
@edi9892 3 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree, but still, find him very sus. He just happens to be there whenever the story needs him making him a little too much of a deus ex machina when the rest of the Story doesn't have any inclinations to it. Moreover, as an anime-only, I never got how he could get captured this easily by the witch cult on one hand and on the other be asked to hold off Garfield and he was just _yeah sure..._ It's almost as if he was two different people in one. One cowardly merchant with bad luck and one smart, cunning badass. Speaking of cunning, it's also worth pointing out that how he won against Rosewaal without even knowing about return by death or many other important details is quite noteworthy. Him being a bigger threat than Reinhard in one of the If-routes hammers that point home. He really is either smurfing for the most part, or he has two sides. PS: I really find your voice soothing.
@edi9892
@edi9892 3 жыл бұрын
On a related note: I can't wrap my head around how Echidna and Rosewaal influenced the beginning of the story getting Subaru where they wanted him. I don't see any hints as you would see in Higurashi, where the first season is a mystery and the second a resolution.
@mx10589
@mx10589 4 жыл бұрын
What if Otto can read people's minds
@paalyasharahla7574
@paalyasharahla7574 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know this could be a theory lol
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
It's a fun one to think about, I just got enough 'Otto was acting suspicious there, adds more to the Pandora theory!' comments that I was like, wait, do people think that's real? And so I made a video!
@paalyasharahla7574
@paalyasharahla7574 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter yeah I'm surprised too! But thanks for hopping on opportunity natalie! Good video
@pandorathewitchofvainglory237
@pandorathewitchofvainglory237 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Hey, yes or no, do you think you’ll do more videos on your thoughts of Re:Zero theories?
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Of course - it's the type of video I like doing most! I've been really busy with the new web novel chapters this week, but I expect to have some theory stuff out again very soon - I have a few scripts I'm working on for that sort of stuff.
@alphadaemon1717official
@alphadaemon1717official 4 жыл бұрын
Otto to pure for this world
@lewissteward65
@lewissteward65 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s like “it all a dream theory” hate it
@goldenangel158
@goldenangel158 4 жыл бұрын
Great video but know I am more interested in the seal that pandora wants to open what is inside it from what I read the light novel if the seal door opens the world will end so I am wondering how was it sealed in the first place and why is pandora after it
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Believe me, if I had a good theory for that I'd make a video about it!
@sleepyprinny
@sleepyprinny 4 жыл бұрын
1. I... didn't know 'Otto is Pandora' was a thing... but why? 2. Rem being Pandora/connected to Pandora but again, why? 3. Too much is unknown about Pandora and we don't even know if her being active like that is even a thing with her. I mean, her only 2 real instances of being shown seems more like she'd prefer to oversee shit over directly meddling with shit. Also, is she even interested in Subaru?
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
1. Idk why, that's the point of the video haha. 2. In Rem's case, it would have been to create a twin for Ram, who was to be the reincarnation of the oni God. Because twins were killed at birth as a rule by the oni, this should have gotten rid of Ram. We know the witch cult is connected to Pandora, and we know they tried again to get rid of the oni when Rem and Ram's village was attacked, so tbh, I think that theory makes way more sense because there is a motive there. 3. We have no idea if she's interested in Subaru, but she is definitely interested in Emilia.
@sleepyprinny
@sleepyprinny 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter 2. That makes sense. I knew she was part of/behind the Witch cult, and I know about why the village was attacked, but considering how things 'actually' went down... yeah, I dunno. It just feels too roundabout and risky if the point was to wipe out a potential Oni God, that ultimately failed. I just don't buy it.3. Too many weurdos are interested in Emilia... which sucks for Subaru. Oh but, speaking of Emilia... S2 episodes 14 and 15 eerily remined me of something Satella said about why she fell in love with Subaru. Namely, the time they spent together and the way she described it played out scarily close to what actually happened in those 2 episodes. Prolly a coincidence, but very little in this story seems to ever be 'just coincidence'. Plus, the way crazy Emilia acts... isn't really all that different from Satella's current, non Witch of Envy, persona. At the very least, similarities are there enough to give you pause. Plus, Subaru's reaction to actually meeting Satella was.... not normal, especially since it was outright shown that she literally didn't do anything but talk to him. I mean, I don't necessarily think that Satella is Emilia, but their connections are definitely deep. Well, it'd be hilarious if Emilia were a 'reset Satella' though, rather than being a straight up clone or something. The irony alone would make me laugh pretty hard to be honest. But then, the Witch of Envy murdering herself in a fit of jealous rage is pretty par the course for top tier Yanderes. The White Queen from Bloodsigh even murdered at least half a dozen versions of herself right 8n front of our poor MC. But, as for the string of... something gu8ding ppl along in general, namely with respect to Subaru and Co's lives? Why not. We know for a fact that Satella gave Subaru Return by Death, that Rem literally shouldn't exist and be dead, and that Otto isn't in Roswaal's Gospel. Another Witch or power screwing around behind the scenes is pretty normal, but I just have my doubts of any 'direct' meddling. Even Echidna rarely actively does anything, shy of the IF routes... but, y'know.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Did the attempt to get rid of the oni god fail? Ram doesn't have her horn, after all, and its possible that even her prodigy state as a child would have been more powerful if she hadn't been a twin and had had two horns. She was nerfed, and that could be the thing - to someone evil, maybe it would seem like Ram won't be a problem now, but what if Ram can become strong again purely because of a) friendship (Subaru's Cor Leonis) - that's always the one thing evil characters never predict - and b) her synesthesia with Rem. Ironically, the fact she was given a twin, which should have been the end of her, was what enabled her to reach her potential even when her horn was gone. I mean, obviously it would also kinda be because of Roswaal, but that makes it less poetic.
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if some idea is so out of it, it might be best to not draw attention to it. Videos attempting to debunk dumb ideas implicitly say "well, you almost had a point but you missed this counterpoint that undermines it" when it's best to imply "no you don't have any idea what you're talking about" At least the Subaru= Flugel theory could go either way based on currently known information.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I think it's interesting to talk about just why, from a story point of view, theories like this would actually make the story worse, rather than better. I don't mind at all that theories come out that are (in my opinion) really unlikely to be true, it's still people putting thought into the story, and tbh, there is nothing from a purely logical standpoint that does debunk this one (because we know so little about Pandora, just about anything involving her can be possible). That's why I think it's interesting to consider it from a storytelling standpoint, and how it would affect things that are important to Tappei in the story he is working on. Unlike real life, stories tend not to work when they're too random and chaotic, and so once a theme is established or a character is put on a certain path in terms of the lessons they're going to learn, that won't usually be undermined just so some random but interesting stuff can happen. I think that's interesting to think about.
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter I think this theory about Pandora is dumb too, albeit I'm not actually caught up.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Being caught up doesn't really help in the case of Pandora - other than a bit of information in arc 5 we still know very little about her.
@e.9874
@e.9874 4 жыл бұрын
this doesnt really have anything to do with the theory i just wanna say i love the dress on your avatar here, its adorable and the colors are so nice
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you!
@e.9874
@e.9874 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter youre welcome ^_^
@Tearituplikewasabi
@Tearituplikewasabi 3 жыл бұрын
We saw pandora when Emilia first tried opening the seal??
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that'll be in episode 18. What's the question? Otto wasn't born then, so it doesn't really relate to this theory, apart from revealing Pandora and vaguely showing us some of what she can do.
@Tearituplikewasabi
@Tearituplikewasabi 3 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter oh I don’t believe in the Otto is Pandora theory either I was just surprised cause I tend to not catch on to little details and thought I missed seeing her already. Which is why I appreciate your work btw! I spoiled myself on emilias past months ago so I know what happens and that Pandora is involved I thought she already made her appearance without me seeing it lol
@VaradMahashabde
@VaradMahashabde 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, your curtains look like pyjamas
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I mean... I'm sorry, I guess?
@VaradMahashabde
@VaradMahashabde 4 жыл бұрын
@@NatalieXHunter just seemed weird i guess
@fuzzyd1436
@fuzzyd1436 4 жыл бұрын
I love theory but I 100% understand how dumbshit stupid it is and how it 100% won't be true
@kunalkorag
@kunalkorag 4 жыл бұрын
The comma theory is much worse than this one personally this one is also lazy.
@e.9874
@e.9874 4 жыл бұрын
practically every series has a comma theory honestly, hardly worth disputing
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't even think about the coma theory. Every series has one, and the only one that is actually any good is the Pokemon one haha!
@coolgamer3646
@coolgamer3646 4 жыл бұрын
@@e.9874 rem was kinda in a coma through out arc 4 arc 5 and arc 6
@CaptainKa101
@CaptainKa101 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolgamer3646 but that's not part of the coma theory, that's more part of storyline instead. The coma theory is mainly for Subaru not -side characters-
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the coma theory is the usual theory there is for every story ever that none of it is really happening and Subaru has been in a coma since leaving the convenience store, dreaming the whole thing. The thing is, that kind of theory can be interesting when it adds something to how we understand the story (like that theory that everything that happens in Harry Potter after he gets his Hogwarts letter is actually about a kid who's lost his mind retreating into a fantasy world of his own imagining to cope with the abusive upbringing), but with Re:Zero it's just the usual lazy 'what if it's all just a dream' thing, and isn't even interesting to think about.
@protectordeemilia2607
@protectordeemilia2607 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry ,If I'm super late xd , for me the theory that Otto is Pandora hmm ... I don't think so it is not possible an yeah un my opinion the theory sucks
@Acid8UCloud
@Acid8UCloud 4 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff but there was a mistake in the vid. Otto had his blessing from birth and was overwhelmed by it. He was basically learning disability till his older brother show him how to write.
@NatalieXHunter
@NatalieXHunter 4 жыл бұрын
I never said he didn't have his blessing from birth - all divine protections are from birth. I just said he awakened to being able to understand what the animals were saying when he was 10, rather than just hearing a load of messy noise, and in the anime at least this was depicted as a very sudden thing, where he could suddenly understand the bugs.
@Acid8UCloud
@Acid8UCloud 4 жыл бұрын
Ok. My bad I guess
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