The Overwatch League Is Living On Borrowed Time

[@theogillan5510]

It would literally be so easy to save the game. The tiniest bit of content in the experimental patch made thousands of people enjoy the game again. If Blizzard could just swallow their pride and add a new hero to the base game that would give players what they need to keep going and not all just go to Valorant or Apex.

[@defeatSpace]

Or better yet, Overwatch 2 experimental mode.

[@sandwitchchan1999]

Overwatch killed Overwatch

[@doglopmaz]

New heroes are being made with 5v5 in mind so it's not that easy

[@eyeden819]

@@doglopmaz so then just give us 5v5

[@doglopmaz]

@@eyeden819 maps need changes for 5v5 that still weren't fully made, so no

[@ravinblac845]

Fully agree with the clip of super. They are putting so much time and effort into a game that is ruining their other titles and it’s leaving Overwatch to die; not just in the sense of no players for OW1 but also losing members of the community being the game is the same as it was 6-8 months ago. OW2 is hurting Blizzard more than OW2 will help when it’s finally released.

[@xythiera7255]

If you still play ow now then you are a hardcore OW lover . Normal.peopl left ages ago .

[@ravinblac845]

@@xythiera7255 exactly. I truly love OW but recently I’ve been playing much less and it just doesn’t seem as fun. A lot of my friends who still play are the same way and I think a lot of the streamers and pros and other notable figures in the community would tell you they feel the same way.

[@mire873]

@@xythiera7255 Literally only started playing ow again because some friends wanted to play. Keep in mind I only have 26 hours in game and quit playing back in 2017.

[@QuintaFeira12]

And OW2, honestly, looks bad as fuck. nothing of what they've shown seems to make me want to come back. I dislike the idea of 5vs5 because I never played it competitively nor with a competitive mindset. In fact, my top wish was for 12vs12. OW is 6vs6 as is, and yet, being bitched at by my team even in casual modes was a constant before, and is now more likely to happen in 5vs5 because each person has bigger impact overall to the game flow. And no options around it. It's 5vs5 only, with strict roles, and ways to play, and bitching bitching bitching as if this was a MOBA. UUUURGH. The hero reworks are even worse. They make everyone more samey, and are utterly UNCREATIVE anyways. Look at Sombra, who literally had her unique mechanic of hackig almost removed. You know, HACKING. And was given... damage, as compensation. Nope, that's it, she was given - more damage. Do you not like damage? Too bad, it's damage. Why would I want to play a gutted and unfun version of a hero that, uh, I guess is better at doing damage now? Why would I damage as a payback? If it was damage I was looking for, I could have always picked soldier. Or a McNoName, or a Reaper. Nope, I wanted to play Sombra, I wanted to hack people, but I can't pick Sombra in OW2 anymore, because she's gone and damage is here, so she can be a role-fitting cog in the sameyness machine of competitive boringness and team bitching. I have plenty of alternatives. Goodbye shitwatch. May your stale, forced uncreative design meta reach no audience. Die with your shit company.

[@defeatSpace]

And it's even worse because Blizzard literally can't afford to do more than maintain their games right now.

[@surveyor1515]

Sad to see Overwatch abandoned for a sequel that was announced prematurely. I played Overwatch for 3.5 years but my watch has ended, I went home, back to my native land, back to Halo (Infinite) and I haven’t had this much multiplayer fun since 2017 Overwatch. EDIT: I want to add that I do hold out hope for Overwatch/2’s future and would be back, it’s the best FPS (“soon” to be) series alongside Counter-Strike and Halo imo.

[@Goobyster]

the fact that overwatch 2 was announced during the height of the hong kong controversy i have to imagine they announced it this early for damage control

[@symbolitical4158]

Same overwatch is done now tbh. I think it's time to move on to OG games like Halo.

[@fulnaz3164]

The moment they screwed the Tier 2 scene its pretty much a ticking bomb tbh

[@darknightr15yzf]

Sadge dont make me cry bro same feeling

[@michaelvillynch9643]

Why would I ever go back to Overwatch when I was forged by fire and T-bags in the arena!!

[@LXRDKVRAMA]

“Living on borrowed time, the clock ticks faster.”

[@grayski3324]

Must be tier 1 BT :]

[@cakeu]

That'd be the hour they knock the slick blaster

[@jonayatalks]

certified fantano classic

[@TrifsLeo]

@@cakeu dick dastardly and mubtley with sick laughter

[@lebowski7717]

Doom flows???

[@robobot2805]

I’m pretty sure this game is gonna be the death of the overwatch series not only has the league suffered but also the community’s passion, patience, and trust in Blizzard. I hope this game doesn’t end a series so lively, dedicated, and powerful as Overwatch

[@dieptrieu6564]

I don't think it will kill the game entirely. It would most likely kill the competitive scene. Similar to how HoTS's esport became. However, as long as the game is still fun for casuals. People will still play it

[@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777]

@@dieptrieu6564 IF its still fun for casuals, but that seems to be on borrowed time as well. I once had an entire class who played OW casually for 2 solid years. They're all playing Apex and Valorant now. The ones who want to play OW just plays Paladins and TF2 instead.

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 The fact that Hots still alive after all the shit that game been through show the future of OW. Especially the fact they are both blizzard game

[@idontcare9747]

Sadly it’s most likely going to be the truth. Especially with blizzard as a company being just god awful, overwatch is on life support with experimental rn

[@healsgoodman6484]

@@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 The casually audience will always go to the next big game and the game with the most new content. OW didn't die because of Apex or Valorant it died because blizzard stopped updating it to make OW2. And OW 2 will be the next big game the question is how long will it last.

[@Akshonesports]

Despite all that has happened with the delays, lack of updates, and concerns with Activision as of late, we still love Overwatch as a game and the community behind it. We hope that things start to turn around in 2022 as we learn more about Blizzard's plans with Overwatch 2.

[@DeadPalette]

There is patching a game for balance, then there is erasing what people loved and replacing it with something people are indifferent towards or even hate. If you don't like Smash Bro's Brawl, you can still play Melee... I can never play Overwatch as it once existed and that sucks.

[@thadex454]

OW2 is too late. All the hype is gone, only salt remains

[@69Delphine420]

Blizzards “plans” lmao

[@yserareborn]

Problem is they needed to announce OW2 in order to build hype in the company again after the whole Hearthstone fiasco.

[@MoistYoghurt]

until blizzard stops harassing women and literally anyone they see theyll become a better company but thats never going to happen OMEGALUL

[@fredericabernkastel8354]

I love overwatch a lot and I've played it daily for 2 years now. I really hope we are getting SOMETHING soon. Content, communication about future plans, anything.. we all love this game and we don't want it to die.

[@tqkf8878]

They really shouldn’t have even gone for a sequel, there is literally no point when it’s just a massive update. Everything they intend to do in OW2 could’ve been easily integrated slowly into OW1, which would mean consistent and new content and not abandoning your game

[@priatalat]

I know right? This is the equivalent of Riot halting all development of league so they can cram all the updates from a whole year into a sequel called LoL 2.

[@darkhedgehog45678]

"Blizzard is in a tough spot" God bless, may it crumble to the ground.

[@bulkathos5207]

all over 1 females sob story? SIMP

[@darkhedgehog45678]

@@bulkathos5207 cope and seethe and acquire some good taste while you're at it.

[@bulkathos5207]

@@darkhedgehog45678 keep simping over some female who doesnt even know u exist 😂🤣😂🤣

[@roshanbhamra9249]

@@bulkathos5207 oh yeah, I forgot the word "simp" means "someone who has the audacity to care about sexual abuse"

[@bulkathos5207]

@@roshanbhamra9249 but its only abuse when it comes to 1 gender tho? That's pretty funny to me... SIMP

[@supernebula101]

"The Overwatch League is living on stolen breast milk"

[@MechanicalShockwaveBow]

what does this mean lmao

[@supernebula101]

@@MechanicalShockwaveBow Male Blizzard employees were supposedly stealing breast milk pumped by female employees from office fridges

[@MechanicalShockwaveBow]

@@supernebula101 dear god

[@luxorgames7569]

I think almost no one would be mad if they still updated the main game, maybe a hero, events, a map or two... It is frustrating to watch the game die and no effort being put on it

[@gaoftw]

They made two new deathmatch maps that no one asked for that we can play while in a 20min queue so we got some new content :) /s

[@dohnaseek]

@@gaoftw idk how estimation said this game has 600k concurrent player but the queue always took ages even with priority pass lmao. My friend who played ranked need 30 mins queue to get a game and for some reason he also got matched with a top 500 player, he was plat btw

[@caldw615]

@@dohnaseek Long queue times have always been a problem for DPS players. Not as many people want to play Tanks or Healers, they just want to be Genji v:

[@dohnaseek]

@@caldw615 i forgot to mention my friend literally almost never played dps, only anna, mercy, orisa, and winston. So theres that lol

[@GreatNegus]

@@caldw615 No one wants to be a healer because the second shit goes wrong, everyone on your team starts blaming you, accusing you of throwing, and then proceeds to throw the game themselves. I have yet to meet a DPS main that isn't selfish, retarded, or selfishly retarded.

[@Godseyyy]

The fact that the community has to provide a modded version of OW2 for league players to play on speaks volumes You're telling me it's really too hard to make a private build for pros to be able to play on that gets small updates as the devs modify things? You know, sort of like a *closed alpha*

[@yackub3889]

I generally think the smartest thing to do is to have a closed beta released when Season 5 of OWL starts. You can have drops for the beta in OWL streams. Not only will this bring more viewership to the Overwatch League, but you would also give what the community wants the most, Overwatch 2. I was also thinking for every monthly tournament a new hero would be dropped (this is less likely to happen or they would probably just drop every hero)

[@monkeyman2900]

bruh game isn’t even done

[@aleblasco39]

@@monkeyman2900 Riot did a similar thing with Valorant and look the success of that game, I hard agree with your statement

[@kosmosfan01]

It's not exactly a good showing that the only reason people will watch anything is for drops and not because they actually enjoy it. That's more important and OWL isn't fun to watch. Look at the playtime for characters like Sombra/Tracers towards the end of the season. Some people are gonna get PTSD from when teams ran nothing but GOATS because they wanna see variety. Blizzard has to do something about the game to make you want to watch.

[@yackub3889]

@@kosmosfan01 this tells me you didn’t watch OWL. In the end it doesn’t matter if every viewer enjoys Overwatch League. A viewer is still a viewer. And who knows maybe someone will end up really enjoying it.

[@kosmosfan01]

@@yackub3889 Gotta love how you assume I didn't watch OWL when this game needs people actually playing it to survive, not watching it. The Dragons over here looking bored after winning the whole thing and completing their Cinderella story 😆

[@duck07747]

The reason there are delays is because their employees are too busy harassing the female employees. They've been communicating through the lawsuits 👀

[@salsathemonkey22]

"hey Veronica, wanna catch a movie after work?" "RAPE RAPE SOME WRITE AN ARTICLE EVERYONE WALK OUT RIGHT NOW"

[@lilyliao9521]

@@salsathemonkey22 k

[@BlueLightningSky]

Let the pros play on OW1. Why is this so hard for them to understand? Because some top molester thinks it would be good for the brand if OW2 took center stage before being released? This reminds me of that time before OWL where Blizzard indirectly killed all the other tournaments and everybody was left waiting for their announcements on what the OWL was going to be. But this time both pro players and casuals are now in limbo.

[@AeonsONE]

I keep saying this, they need to kill Overwatch 2, screw 5V5, just give the players the overhaul, the new maps, and all the heroes and content they have been holding out from us for the past 2 years. Keep working on the PVE campaign separately and Focus on the actual game people are playing right now.

[@3takoyakis]

OW2 is OW update that got delayed But ppl need to pay for it

[@d4s0n282]

@@3takoyakis not even true though

[@shiverian5970]

They left the original game in a state where there's no reason for casuals, pros, orgs, or sponsors to invest time or money into the game over something else, in favor of a prematurely announced very similar sequel that's gotten delayed so far into the future its not in the next fiscal year.

[@devilishgenius]

You guys remember that brief period of time when hanzo on live had storm arrow but OWL still had scatter? Remember how annoying that was?

[@ANGGELAful]

"whats causing the delay?" Emotionally broken employees

[@Hermelu]

It is such a shame. I think Flats put it perfectly when he said that the whole Overwatch League team - the casters, moderators, the production team - did an amazing job with the league, even though Blizzard is giving them barely scraps to work with. There is so much potential and so much sweat and blood in this league because people believe(d) it can be great - and Blizzard fucks em all over by protecting harassers and being too proud.

To be honest, I'm not really interested in watching a game that I can't play myself.... Maybe the first day, but not longer

[@thadex454]

This is the key reason why OWL is going flop in 2022. Why try to learn from the pros when the pros are playing a new game while you're stuck with the old one

[@nufcjoker9057]

thadex Fuck the overwatch league and the pros like we should care about 1%off the player base

[@leinadlink]

What features I want added to the sequel that would improve it over the original? A healthy work environment for the devs

[@3takoyakis]

Thats just for news journalist For players and payers? We only want our shit done Those "healthy environment for workers" stuff in the end, treated as business tactics by each company Like mccree changes to cole cassidy Thats so stupid, the filthy acts HAPPEN after a long time of choosing mccree name

[@envysart797]

Fr though I don’t think Overwatch is on borrowed time, I think that it’s already dead, and blizzard are just deciding when and how to announce that they’ve been Weekend Bernies-ing us with OW 2 for the last 3 years.

[@FGPlus]

Ur probably 10 years old

[@envysart797]

What, my pessimism about blizzard makes me young and naive? What’s blizzard done or said to make you optimistic about Overwatch? Were you happy about getting the same junkenstein’s revenge again this year?

[@GreatNegus]

@@envysart797 I love standing still for 30 minutes while Torbjorn's turret kills everything.

[@Simalacrum]

I get the feeling that OW2 development is drowning more and more into the sunk cost fallacy - they've spent so much time and resources in a project that isn't working out well and feel like they need to have something worthwhile to show for the time and effort, but ultimately it's harming both the community's engagement in the franchise and the company's bottom line. I almost kind of wish they'd just cancel OW2 at this point, and focus back on a game they already have on market - if OW1 isn't profitable enough, heck just make it F2P and modernise the monetisation model!

[@dieptrieu6564]

OW1 should be f2p since the start. They could at least get the asian's audience( aka china and korea) to play this game more if it was actually free. And when you get them players, you will never have to worry about profit. Case in point just look at how much LoL made just by being loved by China

[@deezboyeed6764]

@@dieptrieu6564 i mean the games already huge in korea or is most pro teams being made up of mostly koreans just a coincident.

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@deezboyeed6764 But china, tho. The game is huge in korea because it's free in internet cafe. It should be free everywhere period

[@deezboyeed6764]

@@dieptrieu6564 no, it shouldn't perhaps your fine with the modern trend of lootbox riddled battle pass filled pay wall games but im not. Being free also opens it up far more to hackers especially from China

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@deezboyeed6764 Pubg isn't free and it's full of hacker. And why would you think f2p equal lootbox? LoL have f2p but you can buy everything you want without gamble your life on it. Plus, OW already have lootbox. So it's not a big issues, either way

[@gmsbeats985]

I'm low key kinda concerned about the state of Overwatch rn. I just hope that the Overwatch League isn't gonna completely fall apart. Edit- In my opinion Overwatch 2 should of just been DLC or added updates.

[@madsiesOW]

i mean the pvp is a free DLC, its just sad they wanted to make it 5v5 because they cant balance

[@Verdugo_Arulaq]

Unfortunately, I just can’t play OW in good faith anymore And OW2 was on my list, but at this rate and with all the shit at Blizzard, I don’t think I get it It’s upsetting, OW was fun for a long time, even when others said it was dead. OW2 was gonna be great Then news of the bullshit at blizzard came out.

[@Cybrtronlazr]

4:23 this is what happens every time I watch a streamer like redshell or ML7, and of course the OWL pull off some crazy play, but then after booting the game, I want to quit on the loading screen... Game is so stale at this point it has so many issues. I really hope that OW2 is really something, or the viewership will be crazy the first week and then drop like flies after that.

[@NobodyFromNowhere__]

Sigh, it’s a shame. A damn shame to see blizzard fall from grace. Still, I will remember the incredible impact they had on the games industry and how overwatch revolutionized the FPS genre.

[@SomniaCE]

Didn't they say that OW1's multiplayer would get every change that OW2 gets so that people who just play multiplayer wouldn't have to upgrade unless they wanted the visual overhauls and such? I swear I remember them saying OW1 and OW2 would be entirely compatible and share a playerbase.

[@Mexican00b]

I still play Overwatch but for fun, not ranked still a great game... it's sad that a great game which did great economically but aint "a cash cow" gets abandoned just because... this is sad times for gamers indeed

[@FriedChikun]

Oh no no, it was a cash cow. Boring metas and incompetent balancing is what killed it.

[@Larry]

Couldn't care less about eSports, and I WORKED on an eSports TV network for several years. These people need to know that eSports will never catch on in the mainstream, as there's just no entertaining personalities, It's not just game play, and these players have the personality of a cinderblock. And if they do stick their neck out, they get kicked out. It's just self-defeating.

[@Lilybun]

I honestly don't know who would actively support activision blizzard at this point and voluntarily line Kotick's pockets just because they like the players and characters of a game like overwatch. Just let it die and move on

[@dieptrieu6564]

As history show. Nobody care about the people getting mistreated as long as they still get their game to play. Riot had the same issues with mistreated and unfair treatment toward their employees. Yet they still made bank. Why? Because they still made good games

[@Lilybun]

@@dieptrieu6564 riot had allegations of unfair pay which is orders of magnitude less severe than systematic abuse of women and death threats made by the ceo imo

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@Lilybun No, that's not the whole case. They do have sexual harassment allegation. Plus toxic work place culture. Death threat is the only one that didn't happen. There are a shit load of memes in lol community for that incidents, lol. They were almost as bad as blizzards. Many tech companies are like that

[@Lilybun]

@@dieptrieu6564 how many riot employees took their own lives due to harassment? How many higher ups participated in harassment and protected abusers?

[@dieptrieu6564]

@@Lilybun Obviously Blizzard is still worse. That doesn't make what happened at RIot to be less severe. Just because noone suicide doesn't mean it's a good thing. And yes, many highers up at Riot participated in that( one of the co founder was accused and the other one knew about it but didn't want to hurt his friend). But they're no longer the head of the company when thing get out. So it's a less PR disaster. At the end of the days, people stop caring about them when they keep making good games. And that's the issues. Bllizard fail to avert the attention since they are not making any good games anymore. I can assure you that had they manage to released OW2 in time and it was a big success, thing would be different

[@ProxyDoug]

I still can't believe they made it 5v5 and made Bastion into a lamer Viktor. Can he even rocket jump?

[@InchonDM]

If that's what Bastion looks like now, they need to have a _serious_ think about that shit, because that looks like World of Tanks Artillery to me. Arty in WoT is _despised._

[@Malxer]

7:00 I want QoL updates. I personally made a huge megthread including community feedback, screenshots and video footage trying to give as many ideas as possible, I made it with lots of love and dedication and ordered it to be as clean as I could possibly make it. If any of you are interested and / or wants to share their opinion and own ideas, the forum post is titled: *[Please Read] Quality of Life Updates / A nitpicking thread*

[@SuperSuccessfulTroll]

honestly who is still playing blizzard games in 2021

[@georgeschuhmacher7169]

Blizzard need to suck up their pride and pull back OW2 in favor of gradually releasing the content they’ve created in various smaller events. Release Rio for Mardi Gras for example, or Sojourn for Canada Day or something. Love this game, but everyone can see how stale it’s become with apex and valorant getting constantly new content by comparison

[@owloddity9297]

Equal rights in the workplace would be a pretty pog update

[@Mito383]

Overwatch is still super popular. With R34 artists.

[@CuteLittleLily]

You know as a new player when i try overwatch with my friend account(that rarely used so technically a new account too) i cant even find a single match for 15 minute. And only in waiting loby with 4 people doing nothing and saying the game is dead

[@chrnoikari1108]

W8, wasn't thisnoverwatch thing the killer of lol?

[@KusunokiSG47]

Just watched Free Guy film. The main antagonist said in the lines of "Shutdown the servers, erase it all, and let the players who want to keep playing buy our sequel. Easy money."

[@azifazeez]

Can't wait for the downfall of the house of Blizzard.

[@Tommcginn]

how the fuck is it so difficult to make a game that's basically a carbon copy of the previous game? it's like sketching a picture over another picture.

[@olezha8269]

As much as I love the game (considering playing it for 5 years and it also be my only game I played that much, barely touching other multiplayer games), I'm just tired of uncertainty and want faster one of the following: grand collapse of OW and Blizzard OR grand revival.At this point in time, being abandoned (as a customer) by developers, I really don't care what it's gonna be. Just let something happen already.

[@steel5897]

OW1 is dead. Dunno about OW2, it's in development hell. I have never seen a pseudo-sequel to a live service game work. Look at PSO2 New Genesis, it literally killed that game.

[@willwunsche6940]

I think it's too late. Mine as well let it turn to dust and start Overwatch 2's community from scratch with all the banked up content to be released a few years from now. Mind you I have played Overwatch since launch and have over a thousand hours on it. It's just too far gone now, adding a hero wouldn't be a big enough impact and would take some momentum out of Overwatch 2's launch We should be getting new main mode maps every month not every two years

[@jagtaggart936]

I'd love a more robust training mode where you can set up and practice different in-game scenarios with team mates and bots. Like Overtime situations and ult interactions with different characters in different conditions, etc.

[@3cnxl]

yhats workshop

[@thalesn]

People focus too much on surface-level issues. "Oh, the game is unbalanced", "oh, the general public has no access to the game", "the game has no content", etc. Those are surface-level issues. The core issues have to do with the company's internal culture. Without addressing the core issues first, there's no way to truly fix any game. Without addressing the core issues first, a good expansion or sequel will only be a short respite.

[@chohsena627]

When Activision-Blizzard happened to HOTS Overwatch fans thought they would be safe. Now it's their turn and no one can stop Activision from destroying itself or Blizzard's IP.

[@xlbthedemigod5662]

Overwatch 2 needs a clan system like Halo, a quest board to earn awards, and more options in the workshop.

[@Heavymetalthunda3]

I honestly thought the OWL had already shut down, if that tells you anything

[@liamwhite1719]

I think that adding the character missions as small DLC drops and hero reworks intermittently while the story is worked on and new heroes are rolled out (maybe with longer gaps between heroes) Update the visual engine first and then add onto the new engine from there so work isn't done twice. Finally, the entire story mode could've been released after plenty of hero missions and a little more waiting, we would've had a more robust game, a better community and not some stupid sequel game that isn't really a sequel.

[@GummyDinosaursify]

Jeff wanted OW1 to have PvE years ago. Big wigs said NOPE. Imagine if they just let him do what he wanted, how much better of a game we'd have today.

[@TapdotWater]

Would like to see a revisit of this video soon when more information about Microsoft's plan going forward with OWL and Overwatch in general is available. Probably a month minimum away until that kind of info's going to be fully out, but I'd love the updates if possible!

[@davidalvarez5659]

TBH, just the thought of supporting anything Blizzard nowadays feels wrong to me.

[@muffinxcancer]

I wonder if it's canned now that Microsoft bought them out?

[@Harmonmj13]

The OWL also needs to put expansion teams in regions currently ignored by the league to satisfy fans in those areas and ensure its survival. Europe barely has any teams besides London and Paris, and there are zero teams in Midwestern cities like Chicago and Minnesota.

[@jagtaggart936]

so so dumb having OWL on an early build of OW2 that players cant access. It's kinda hard to feel invested in watching a game we can't play and don't really understand nearly as much as one we can play.

[@atomosa7664]

to put this into perspective, when OW2 was announced on Nov1st 2019, I had just started my sophomore year of HS, and now, the game hasn't yet even been given a launch date and I'm in my Senior year XD

[@FGPlus]

So 2 years

[@alexraeside7946]

You know how street fighter 2 let you build ex meter for a single good move and street fighter 3 let you use meter to produce improved version of any of the core moves. Would be cool if overwatch had that. Like you could use all meter to do Mei's ultra of use some of the meter to get enhanced version of the core moves

[@Ryval_OW]

Where did you get the leaked scrim footage?

[@kurb0]

Looking on the bright side, with Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard then we can hope their gonna change some of Blizzards practices.

[@LunaPPK]

the league is done for blizzard is to busy putting out self made fires

[@gamerageandhobbyrcdu]

Also isn’t there supposed to be crossplay between one and 2

[@MrGneissSchist]

Is it just me who found overwatch extremely boring since the beginning? I’ve always had a hard time understanding the appeal in the first place, other than the marketable characters

[@dexaphobia8085]

It used to be fun to master and perfect the admittedly limited skill set of a hero you liked, but they killed any interest I had when they consistently changed everything about a character and ruined all of your hard work

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

Why would you possibly want to spend *TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS* on such a flimsy prospect? What if the game is dead on arrival? What if the company is dead on arrival? This is before the calculations that you'll be able to earn your twenty million dollars back!

[@qbert362]

The Overwatch League is an enigma: something causes everyone to think it is dying but then it somehow bounces back. However, this time the problem is with the game which Blizzard need to try their best to fix. I still have faith and I know that Aaron Keller can save us.

[@haven2duty49]

My big issue with owl being on ow2 is the fact that I won't know what's actually happening like I can't analyse it which is sad

[@anonymousalligator7994]

There really needs to be a public beta of the game available when the league starts. Otherwise it's going to feel so disjointed for both the pro players and the viewers when they have to go back to playing the old game. The first overwatch beta did last a while so I do think it's possible.

[@kelvintay1803]

i remb this channel as a ow highlights channel. how things has change

[@felixr.4177]

Its still so weird to me that they decided to make a part 2....

[@Vargas3499]

“TF2 killer” fucking imagine.

[@pennydime4562]

just waiting for valve to update tf2 again and kill overwatch

[@Cheezer3089]

Riot > Blizzard

[@exoqqen]

How does it feel to have the format that you had your channel grow with die?

[@diegofernandez7989]

I love overwatch and will continue to support it and the league, but I’m really sad for how they managed the game and its updates. I can’t believe they left the game to die until ow2 comes. I mean, i get the part that they save the new heroes for the sequel but no balance updates? No maps? It’s like they are asking for people to move on to others games hoping they will come back in the future

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

Splitting your own base between two games with no cross compatibility is a disaster in the making. You effectively compete with yourself and dilute your own market share for no real gain.

[@deezboyeed6764]

What do you mean splitting? There is no ow1 when ow2 launches, its replacing 1

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

@@deezboyeed6764 When it launches, sure. I'm aware of their original-and-sequel-merge idea. We'll see how that works out, and good luck to them. I suppose my reference of market share implied the retail audience, I should have clarified that this perspective is exclusively referring to the competitive esports scene. Right now, ActiBlizz is making it more difficult than necessary for teams to grow and train properly. Per the video, Contenders and League teams might not even be playing the same games--that's the splitting and dilution I'm referring to. Splitting - Separating their professional and prospective Overwatch scenes, harming the scouting opportunities for the latter. Dilution - Overwatch and the juryrigged "Overwatch 2" being played by those two scenes separately weakens the position of both in the larger esports scene, especially due to the prospectives not knowing which way to leap yet (particularly since the sequel continues to sail troubled waters). Maybe it'll be fine--I hope it will be--but it's still not a great way to run a game and its sequel in a competitive environment where presenting a cohesive front is key.

[@deezboyeed6764]

@@subtlewhatssubtle ah i get ya now my man. Have good day.

[@dkelrk1]

The recent experimental patch gave me a little bit of hope... and then, I have to wonder, What is preventing the devs from bringing these changes to the actual game?

[@patrickcarter2829]

It would make their "sequel" look bad if it doesn't have much to justify the delay, most likely. Honestly, I just think this is a 2.0 patch masquerading as a "sequel"?

[@dkelrk1]

@@patrickcarter2829 Oh yeah. There's that.

[@CODandponies]

It's always " We hope to share more soon" and then moths go by and nothing happens. I still don't see how they plan to make the PvE missions "Highly repayable" as they keep saying. yes they have the weather thing but I feel like that will get old quickly and all the pros seem to be saying the PvP is still OW so how do you get excited?

[@PathForger_]

2:19 - ...What? Why do teams need to invest $20,000,000 for the privilege of participating in the OWL? 5:12 - I can indirectly relate to this creator's sentiments...

[@noahmansland3301]

imagine making as esport where people can't play the game.

[@sirbassoon1844]

Its sad to see. I really loved Overwatch. I had many hours of fun. And many great memories. I havent played for a longer stretch since S20 of ranked or so. I barely played any minutes on champs like sigma or echo simply for the reason that its just not as fun anymore. They never should have made rolequeue. It made waiting times just insufferable

[@iunnoo]

disagree role queue is one of the best things they added , open queue comp still exists anyways

[@FGPlus]

Lol u love 5 dps instalock don't u. Sheep.

[@CertifiedGShep]

OW2 was taken out of the oven far too early: Blizzard needed some good news with the whole Blizchung debacle and let the cat out of the bag way too early. It's obvious they weren't ready. Why would my friends and I want to watch OWL where they're playing a game that we can't play? Why wouldn't we just watch OW1 games?

[@sonofsparda9739]

Blizzard should allow the custom move thing to be used in actual pvp matches because it would make how you play the game drastically different from other players and it would really help the game out a lot

[@predictorbibulous3327]

Leave it to Blizzard to shit the bed at every opportunity.

[@snowfox6795]

yo i think you said the exact same sentence twice in your script one at 1:30 and the other at 2:34 '' The lack of competitive game mode against other high ranking players in the community will make it difficult players to get any meaningful practice before game days '' I get the idea of hammering down your point, but it's a bit maddening to hear the exact same words repeated.

[@0ZA1_TV]

It's over good bye overwatch "you were one of those heros" Not anymore 😞

[@ScottyGG]

Really good video. You do a good job of being informative and not critical. Thanks.

[@snakeyte272]

I just want some other company with better management to buy overwatch. It’s a great game but blizzard is killing it

[@dylangross8739]

lucky for us, The Microsoft deal might just be enough to revive overwatch and get production on overwatch 2 moving faster

[@melthework4511]

Overwatch 2 should have just been an expansion with the base game going free to play and the loot box system being reworked. Activision created a marketing nightmare and the overwatch team is in over their head rebalancing every character.

[@martianunlimited]

My guess is that OW2 beta (PVP only) would be made available to all OW1 owners a few months before the league. Similar to Starcraft 2, they would probably make PvP free to play and then lock the PvE and story/progression mode content behind a pay wall in an attempt to revitalize the player base

[@Junya01]

Overwatch fans are feeling the frustration tf2 has been feeling for years now. The difference is, our game has been pretty much perfected for casual and competitive play, while Overwatch is a balancing and visual mess - if you're going to ABANDON your game Blizzard, you have a responsibility to make sure the core gameplay is at least fun!

[@Bloodlf]

The most annoying thing is that they just give us death match maps but they could make a comp map easily

[@1upGaming1up]

I feel the reason why Overwatch 2 (aswell as Diablo IV) is getting delayed is because of the Lawsuit from Activision-Blizzard. Activision-Blizzard are in so much trouble that fans of Ovewatch and Crash Bandicoot are boycotting them for all the vile things the company is being sued for, not to mention on the move to get Bobby Kotick to resign from the company for acting more Mafia boss rather than a CEO.

[@fhjunior6183]

Thanks for the vid

[@sourcegear4203]

I don't personally play ow but from what I've heard from friends and seen from numerous videos, their transition seems to be the worst thing they could possibly do at this current moment. To compare it a game I have played, Splatoon, their transition from 1 to 2 went smoothly. They left 1 in a good state, changed not just added things, and while the game got updates, it wasn't like the game was updated for years, so making a new game felt more natural then updating it. Ow has been getting updates for years has it not? They also left the game with some bad balancing last I checked (could be wrong) plus as xqc said, the game is pretty much the same.

[@hairykraken3541]

6:10 but it would scare shareholders and make the stock plummet, so no chance

[@psychromaniac3525]

It's weird to watch this after Act/Blizz was announced to have been bought out by Microsoft.

[@JasperTheFish494]

i may sound glass half empty, but owl will most likely collapse sooner than later

[@Benrage321]

The screenshot you posted didn't say "not in 2023" but said there is no official date 2023. It could still be 2023.

[@IgorTavern]

OW its a good game and I spent a lot of hours in it, but the lack of actual new content and other things made me stop playing it. And now there's this problems envolving abusive work situations, ba behavior and leading someone to find the wrost way to ease the pain (I don't know if I cant use the word so I hope you understand). Honestly, I kinda hope that OWL just ends and the amazing teams finds out a new game to compete, Blizzard have a ton of issues to atend to. Its sad that a lot of gamers forgets or just doenst care about whats going on, reinforcing toxic behaviors. Thanks for your video. Your work here is amazing!