The pain of that soul crushing bullsh*t job

My supermarket work experience, the theory of bullsh*t jobs & what we can do about them.
My unusual job at a Singapore supermarket during unusual times was like a petri dish verification experiment of David Graeber's theory of Bullsh*t Jobs and how it causes social and psychological harm. Grateful as I am to have had a fallback during that period, 2 years later the memory of that work experience still troubles me. This is a story I’ve been wanting to tell but for the longest time I couldn’t figure out how. I hope this sharing can be helpful to anyone out there who finds themself unsure of what to do in the face of similar work circumstances.
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - My story
4:36 - Graeber’s theory of bullshit jobs
7:18 - Thoughts about what to do
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[@JeanVoronkova]

Do you have a bs job?

[@SuiGenerisAbbie]

Answer -- No, thank goodness I do not. Jean, you seem to be in a funk. Are you OK? I hope you are doing well. I love that your travel videos are so buoying to other people in #KZbin. Where is Vitaly, by the way? I have not seen him in your videos, lately. I hope he is doing well, too.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Hi Abbie! Are you having a good weekend? We are good! I think lately the topics of our videos have gotten away from Bali for a bit lol… just expressing some creative ideas we have between both of us. He’s enjoying the different style of shoot and editing and I’m enjoying the writing haa… but we do have a bali episode coming up in a couple of weeks! Just a switch of inspo for a bit! 😅 ​@@SuiGenerisAbbie

[@JDLuffy]

I remember exactly the part time supermarket job i used to do as a "merchandiser" $8/hr. similar as yours totally bs (walk nonstop to look like working, and filling up those stupid holes and turning items with the front view packaging facing forward etc) and bad working cultures in the supermarket as well (i didnt even have a spot to sit or rest). You NAILED it exactly - "soul crushing", i worked for a few weeks and immediately resigned, i felt it was tearing my heart, soul and very life apart. It just didnt sit well with me haha

[@raymonds8918]

I did those bs job before for survival only when I am not smart enough back then. But I am grateful what I have. How do you think about US stock market recently and near next year quarterly . Thanks for your share this video and reply my Q.🎉

[@SuiGenerisAbbie]

@@JeanVoronkova 👍 Thank you very much, lovely Jean, for this reply of yours. 😄 ♥ I love your travel videos, maybe most of all. However, I completely understand why you and Vitaly would want to take breaks and film something else, too. I will tell you why I love travel videos so much: Simply because I cannot afford to go places. So, I like seeing other people going places and also telling me about them. Thank you for taking all of we loyal viewers to places with you, Jean and Vitaly. Best always to you both, -- Abbie

[@tomjensen618]

Quitting is absolutely a nessesary part of life. You are making space for the next experience. If you don't, it can't replace that dead end one you currently have.

[@selwahasan]

Absolutely! Well said 👏🏼

[@TrollingMoose]

NYer here. Most of the people i know here hate their jobs. Soul crushing. Your videos are so helpful.

[@rebeccal.672]

I worked as a paralegal thinking I could help people and yada yada. After getting yelled at by my boss for trivial "mistakes" like not putting their pen in the exact spot or making a copy of something they Never told me to copy. I decided I had had enough even though I was urged by my parents to "stick with the job until I could retire" . So I do understand your pain.

[@JeanVoronkova]

I think going to law because of the idea that you’ll be helping someone may only work in the US and only if you’re like a community lawyer or smtg? Macs SG hourly rate was higher back when I was a pupil for 2 years 😂😅

[@rebeccal.672]

@@JeanVoronkova Not sure if it works in the US. After some of the "Esteemed" lawyers I had the "privilege" of working forI now understand why there are soo many lawyer jokes because there is a reason for them. 😅😅😅🤣🤣

[@ioanadordea3144]

I truly understand and admire you for quitting your corporate lawyer job. Being a lawyer myself, a solicitor, I still struggle with the decision of leaving it for good in the very near future. I want to pursue my passion for writing and an online business instead. Still a bit afraid, but you give me so much hope and inspiration. Ioana from Romania

[@JeanVoronkova]

It was the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make and it’s basically about going against the weight of the entire society’s opinion (or feels like, anyway) so I completely understand the position you’re in right now. But maybe take this time before you actually quit to prepare for the change!❤

[@JeanVoronkova]

Best of luck!

[@marjorielicup7514]

I know you will make it. When you are already there you will see how beautiful it is, stress free and you have your freedom. Most of all you are a slave free, wage slave free and you're out of the matrix.

[@carefulcarpenter]

I retired at age 26.​ @@marjorielicup7514 Then I began working much harder and longer than before for myself. Corporate type jobs work on your laziness. They will always find someone who buys into the perks: early retirement, medical, vacation, authorityvover your underlings. A self-employed life serving the dreams of others is precisely why I retired at age 26. When I die, I know that I served others--- and that means I was a servant of our creator--- whatever that means to you. ❤

[@dougmassey1807]

My first job 64 years ago was stocking supermarket shelves in a well known supermarket in Glasgow, but as a side hustle I had to get rid of old eggs by breaking them and disposing of the very very smelly contents. Such is fun in your youth. The pay was minuscule. Respect for anyone working in a supermarket comes from experiencing a BS job

[@JeanVoronkova]

It’s a strangely educational stint. Aside from an inside peak at the workings of the supermarket machinery it’s also eye opening in terms of social castes and snobbery. So strange how people turn their noses up once they assume they’re dealing with a blue collar worker. V sad.

[@dominichill1492]

I always tell people "I don't work hard, I work smart". Because when you work hard in life you get injured fast, but when you work smart you're mind and body will not be so physically and mentally tired. Remember working in life is a journey as well. Good video Jean sweetheart. I always love ir when you post videos.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Sage advice Dom ❤🎉 and that’s so true, work in itself is also one of the journeys in life we undergo, and it’s such a pity if it’s a painful one all throughout. I hope we can all let our difficult parts of the journey teach us to choose better paths! 😊

[@nomadingnerds]

I worked my way up the ladder and switched jobs every 5 years for a bigger salary and more responsibility. I started a side hustle and worked a stupid amount of hours a day on both after about a year. I did that for a few years until it brought me to tears. I was not making enough at the side hustle to leave the full time job. Then it happened… they wiped out my whole team and fired me while I was on vacation in the most cowardly way possible. That was the moment. I was all in. I did the math and started to figure out how to survive on what little I had. My wife and I decided life is short and I can automate the labor. Once it was in place we left the USA. We are on month 5 now in Europe. Headed to Southeast Asia in a few weeks. I now look back and say “being fired was the best thing that ever happened to me.”

[@nomadingnerds]

Forgot to mention I make 1/3 of what I used to make and have been doing just fine. :-)

[@ms1295]

Curious what is your side hustle? Or should I say “main hustle “ these days 😊 Glad you realized you can be happy on a smaller income!

[@Telltalesign]

happy for you man!!

[@silverscalederg8632]

The whole "work work work" and "side hustle" bullshit is so toxic

[@adammorra3813]

​@Nomading Nerds how can you survive on just one third of your salary

[@marcodotmar]

Jobs=Taxes; Jobs=Salary to fuel mortgage, food etc. its difficult to have 10/10 meaningful jobs, many are repetitive/meaningless but necessary in the society. the saddest thing is getting used to it without knowing. glad you saw it and took actions!

[@JeanVoronkova]

True, and in today’s economy of uncertainties and depression it’s even harder to leave one’s bs job than before because the perceived difficulties are greater, but fundamentally smtg’s gotta change w the larger society too BS jobs are getting more n more common totally

[@chicofrijoles]

I love your videos. I binge watched a bunch of them today. I just wanted to say thank you, Jean, for inspiring me to make some much needed changes.

[@lizzie7929]

Yes, that's why it's important to have hobbies and interests besides working! No matter what! We are more then our jobs! 🍂🌱⚘🍁🦋🐾🍃

[@fatalframer87]

Excellent point. With hobbies, interests, you become more consent with your life as they provide self care, self love etc.

[@JeanVoronkova]

That’s a really good reminder yes! One solution to BS jobs is that outside of them one can still have a meaningful and fulfilling life through other activities 🎉😊

[@JeanVoronkova]

But then again that’s assuming that we hv energy and enough time outside the bs job in qn. This supermarket stint was 6 days a week and so exhausting from the mental agony it just sucked everything out of me 😢

[@lizzie7929]

@@fatalframer87 Yes, Work is Work! Life is Life! On the other hand if work is your passion in general! I'm happy for those people!

[@lizzie7929]

@@JeanVoronkova Yes, that's true! Sometimes there isn't such a thing as BS jobs, it depends on your views and opinions ingeneral! What can make it BS, is maybe the job is draining or tiring, although quite rewarding! Or the opposite! It is a Job that exists to form Society because without it, the world would be in Chaos! But it isn't a job that isn't respected! I think it depends in the country! Some countries value all jobs, big and small!⚘🌱🦋🍁

[@samueltay9016]

Hi Jean, just chanced upon your channel and I am enjoying the content so far! I am from Singapore too and many of the stuff you post are really relatable :) Thank you for sharing your story!!

[@JeanVoronkova]

Hi Samuel, thank you for this kind note I really appreciate it, esp from a fellow Singaporean! Cos we hv such a unique perspective on things right lol 😂🎉 hope u hv a good weekend!

[@davidmaib677]

Wonderful as usual. I enjoy the time you share with us. Think I have shared before and will share again it is my plan to move to Bali next April-May. Hope to run into you all at some point. You make life just a bit better when you share!

[@JeanVoronkova]

We’re always in the Uluwatu area and run into many friends of the channel actually haha come say hi when we do! I appreciate your very kind note and am very happy that the thoughts I share resonate with you 🦋🤩🌻

[@mooreec1]

Jean, you are wonderful. Thank you for your clarity.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Cheers Eugene 🤗 I’m glad it brought smtg to you 🦋

[@EnergyProX]

Bright side is your experience made for a terrific video and inspiration for those who are looking for it! Cheers

[@JeanVoronkova]

Haha thank you for thinking that! Glad my sharing was useful 😂 🌻🤓

[@PerfectSense77]

If the jobs were so completely pointless, they should have just given the money to eligible people for free. Australia had a free money kind of system for people who had lost their job due to the virus and it worked fine. It has the added advantage that the jobless person can actually use their time for something productive like looking for work or building up their own business. You're absolutely right about how soul crushing it is to be ordered around by petty people who you don't respect. I'm so much happier since I've been able to move to remote freelance and can be my own boss. The clients are polite and reasonable and I can just move on to a different client if there's any problems.

[@JeanVoronkova]

I’m w you Steve. Maybe we’re the independent minded people but self determination has been the biggest happiness factor in the last ten years for me. Also I agree about the welfare handouts idea but u know Singapore being the conservative neo Confucianist state and all… 🤣

[@ninjasteph9561]

I’m in one of those BS jobs currently, for sure. Using it as leverage now to get my finances in order so I can get where I actually want to be, but man, some days are truly soul sucking.

[@JeanVoronkova]

To do it for a time knowing it’s a tool for getting you to a position in life u need to be at is not a waste and totally valid. What was truly soul crushing was lawyering on, hating it but feeling like it might be my path for the rest of my life when it wasn’t my truth 😢. So long as your true path is clearly ahead then this is just a small part you have to get through for now. Hang in there!

[@elsienorback7689]

Feeling useful or needed is what most ppl strive for with their jobs or even feeling included. I agree, sticking with a BS job is NOT fulfilling. I believe more and more ppl are leaving their BS jobs. In America, the great resignation during the pandemic was proof of that. You have only one life to live, make the best of it and get out of your comfort zone and break the golden handcuff theory of thinking you need to stay in a job for retirement buildup. What if you never make it to retirement age? I really enjoy your thought provoking videos. Thanks again.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Thanks Elsie, for being a kindred spirit and leaving me such encouragement always. It’s a bit morbid but I do live often with the thought that what if I don’t live as long as people often assume? It shapes a lot of my decisions. Have to find a good balance between future planning n YOLO haha

[@DexallynDiego]

I love your insights!

[@w1omeganow]

I felt the same way about my insurance job. To make things worse, my coworkers looked sick and prematurely aged. My bosses could hardly walk without a limp due to wear and tear of sitting all day long and psychologically stressed. One committed suicide, another died within 8 mo of retiring.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Omg that’s so strange to hear that about insurance! Sounds very toxic if people are actually dying on the job - get away!

[@whereisgabri3641]

The 9-5 model is outdated. It was introduced a century ago for the manufacturing industry and it is not made for a service industry like today. I see it everyday when i have entire hours spent doing literally nothing waiting for the next job/task to come. Still, we need to be “available”. Soul crushing.

[@Fionn-Greyship]

I was a corporate lawyer myself and I dealt with some SG corporate lawyers before😢. Really appreciate your honesty here. Thank you for sharing

[@JeanVoronkova]

cheers, its a bit of a well to dwell in, but at last i've said my piece i guess lol

[@SLOlverStudio]

Wow this is very interesting topic Jean, thanks for sharing this to us, you are amazing and strong women 💝

[@JeanVoronkova]

Thank you so much SL dear

[@petecoogan]

I'm teaching this video in a precollegiate class for rising juniors tomorrow (3 minutes or so, but they can watch the whole thing later). I'm also using a David Graeber video and a short article by him. I'm preparing them to write an essay that will connect to their college essay next year when they are rising seniors.

[@SumatraIslandGirl]

I am very grateful to come across your channel. I once had BS job, surprisingly I love that job because of my work mate. We laugh a lot and always have a joke to tell to each other. The only thing I hate is, I did not see where I am heading to if I continue sticking to that job. Btw, I love your earings & necklace but the pendant is not centred 😊😊

[@Humansabroad]

Love it Jean ❤❤❤

[@JeanVoronkova]

Thanks so much ❤

[@YYY-uw4ds]

I have a BS job. I want to retire but worrying I don’t have enough money to survive. I am anxious and have minor depression. I hope i can retire in a relaxing place one day and no more worrying. I like Bali . Hope i can retire there.

[@keith1168]

Sometimes people does not have a choice in getting stuck in a job that they hated. More so in this trying times where as a sole breadwinner, you have to bring food to the table. It is not inaction for being stuck in a BS job, circumstances as such that good jobs or career change is rather difficult to do or taking the leap of faith. Just have to keep on trying.. Hustling on the side.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Completely agree, but I find that the true changes in life that pivots you completely in direction are often not as depicted in movies etc (sudden, unplanned, destiny blah blah) but the result of thought, forwards planning, 1 degree shifts day by day over a longer period of time. There will come the time when you still need to take that leap of faith into the unknown, but coming to that time this way has a much higher chance of success. Take heart!

[@bfranco1519]

You are too good for this world!

[@NM-zl7ig]

just love listening you jean . wish I can meet you one day in bali .

[@josephchristopherledesma127]

Good morning jean🙋🙋🙋I totally agree with you🙋🙋🙋Thank you for sharing this video🙋😇😇🙋❤️🙏Happy Weekend🙏❤️🙋🙋😇😇Be safe always😇😇

[@JeanVoronkova]

Thank u Joseph! Wishing you a lovely weekend too!!

[@propertyvideowalkthrough]

Hi Jean, I really enjoyed your video and can relate to it.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Thanks Hue Siew! So glad u do! 🌻🦋😍

[@propertyvideowalkthrough]

Jean, you went through many jobs, short stints. It is said that the reason for many vocational crises is the lack of self awareness. What do you think of this statement and in particular, in the context of Singapore?

[@JeanVoronkova]

I definitely agree with it. Our society is so focused on racing to some level of success that there’s very little wiggle room when young to explore and learn and develop ourselves to even just understand what might be our true callings in life. Also there’s the issue of the v limited perspective of what constitutes good jobs. I’m happy I was so experimental in my youth and later when I left law. It helped ascertain what is my personal truth and I wd always encourage everyone else to do the same

[@ronaldmidianandi]

i love your content :)

[@chefse5442]

They have that in Japan a lot. For senior people. There are everywhere 65+ year old people standing around and point you in the right direction % similiar. Quite sad for them. Money is just a number on the screen, there should be a minimum wage for everyone in the world. And people who have ambitions or want to work, they can earn on top of it. I love in Asia and see so many useless jobs, just for the sake that they are employed. I think in these modern times, you don't need to force people to work useless jobs anymore.

[@olgakuznetsova490]

Thank you for this video, suddenly I realized I've had a bullshit job, but i stayed there for the stability, the benefits, and I thought: "at least i can make my mortgage payments". So sad :(

[@msngian9863]

Thank you for your sharing. Is a law education worth it?

[@AverageAngel]

I have a corporate job, so it’s a BS job. Hoping investing into startups will do the trick and reach financial independence as I enjoy looking at and evaluating startups

[@tcng9808]

My Dad used to say he had a busllshit job and sticked with it only because of us for raising a family. It was very unfair to me since its his decision to have us and its his responsibilty to raise us . I never use that line to my children as it totally dosen't make any sense. It made me very sad and shaped my view of the job place.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Hi TC, so sad to hear what your dad and you both went through, but it’s cool that you decided to behave differently with your own kids - takes strength to make that decision. As children we are shaped by our parents in so many ways but ultimately it’s always a choice how we choose to apply in our own lifes the behavior we have observed. Feel sorry for your dad too tho a bs job really is a tough thing to withstand

[@m3tr0id86]

There's a time I worked at Lowe's and there were days my mental and spiritual health was so bad that I greatly desired death. However I had so much self hatred towards myself, that I kept it going for roughly 2 years before I snapped. The store manager didn't even have the balls to tell me himself and the store manager before that I respected would have told me to quit AFTER finding a more fulfilling line of work, because he noticed that I was wearing myself very thin. In fact he would have given me time off to do so. The biggest bullshit job claim was that Lowes was an "essential business" and for what? I mean getting paint and mulch are the difference between life and death apparently...

[@JeanVoronkova]

Oh dear thinking of offing yourself cos of the job is totally the line!! I hope you have walked away and onto a far better path for you mentally and physically!?

[@m3tr0id86]

@@JeanVoronkova Sadly that wasn't the first. I worked at the airport, Wal-Mart, Kroger and those built up so much self imposed shame I ended up doubting myself for years and the worst part is that people always said that they doubted any ideas that were a means to an end, were never taken seriously and then carelessly say things like "Wow! I never knew that would be successful." Which deeply angered me said a couple of years ago, but has not diminished to this day. People around me say that I am very smart, but what is the use when people are typically very dumb in a 1984 by George Orwell way, which scares the hell out of me.

[@64ytb]

It is good that you had that experience, now you realised what it’s like to be working in a low paying job under a dictator boss. We, average workers are subjected to all kinds of bullying at work.

[@justintan596]

I know many people having BS jobs - it depends on what they want in life. If someone wants to coast along, that maybe fine. If someone wants to self actualise, then it's a different thing thing altogether.

[@JeanVoronkova]

True that. I believe the coasting is just procrastination before the e self actualisation phase though. We all have an innate desire to make a difference I think.

[@justintan596]

@@JeanVoronkova Totally agree!

[@user-mm1uc9xu5r]

I have come to a point that corporate jobs are really bs jobs. The only good thing is the stability of income which can be channelled to more meaningful stuff outside of work. Hoping to find life's purpose with the pursuit of meaningful experiences

[@JeanVoronkova]

This is so totally the right thing to do and I’m so glad you’re doing it! Enjoy the stability of income but build your character and personality outside of the bs job! Way to go u! What’s the more meaningful stuff u found so far?

[@user-mm1uc9xu5r]

@@JeanVoronkova yes i agree! We can do so much more outside of our day to day jobs. Fyi, i graduated in 2020 but it took me the first 2-3 months of working bs jobs to realise that's not how i want to live my life. Currently trying to stabilise my finances so i have room to explore side hustles and passion projects that really motivates me. I truly enjoy things like travelling to scenic parts of a country to relax and being able to help people in my area of expertise through content or other means. But everything is still a work in progress for now so yup. Will never be chained to a bs job as its both mentally and physically draining

[@yengkoontan7184]

Yes i do have a bs job where no one appreciates and the boss is a highly egoistic. Basically u are treated like machine, being poured loads and loads of tasks and being chased after daily

[@unsaltedbeurre3411]

I heard this saying ages ago, can’t remember from whom or where. It’s something like….”If you wipe out half the employees in the Chrysler building, those corporates inside would still be able to operate as per normal”. Basically, it means so many jobs out there are pointless and have no real contributing values. Having said that though, I guess these jobs do ‘contribute’ in a way, and perhaps this contribution is even their main function, which is to give a chunk of population “income” so they can earn money to 1) pay taxes, 2) spend on all these material things mass-and-overly produced by corporates that are often the employers themselves. Having ‘a job’ gives people a false sense of security which makes people go get a loan, 5 credit cards, 2 new cars, 2 mortgages, etc. And this cycle goes on and on and on. It’s even more obvious now that technology is replacing a lot of human jobs and sometimes you question why a certain positions are still in place, but really, no matter how meaningless, it’s just to give people something to do, and income to spend on often meaningless materials. I don’t think this will change, because apparently we can’t afford to ‘correct’ the economy….and have invested too deeply in extreme capitalism, but I’m definitely all for not doing something that has no meaning to me just for the sake of money too. I laughed when you described the Covid supermarket job you did in SG. It’s so Singaporean 😂

[@cardepunz1914]

Wow sgd10 is a large sum of money here in our country, i think that the minimum wage of our workers here is around 16-17 sgd, equivalent to 8hrs of work...

[@elsienorback7689]

Yes, we seen who the essential workers were when the pandemic was happening. The ppl who actually get goods to the place where ppl could buy the products or who can help you stay alive. Barge operators/workers, semi drivers, shelve stockers, nurses, doctors, paramedics etc, etc.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Yep. Corporate lawyers can all go take a hike lol

[@cartoon4191]

Staying alone at home without job can cause depression also can cause diabetes

[@WD40318]

I am 24 years old, American. I just want to use the next 10 years to save and invest as much as I can. My deam is to have a small house, a little bit of land, a couple farm animals and time to just breathe. Not run around for some a**hole. It will be done. Just need to be patient. Good video 👍😊

[@WalkAway3]

hey Jean, i just started in investment banking and i somewhat resonate with your experience as a lawyer, but i'm trying to be positive and convince myself that my job isn't BS, adds value to society etc. what's your view on me 'forcing' this positivity?

[@JeanVoronkova]

Hi! Thanks for this I think it’s such a great question 🤗🤓 In my own experience, when you’re doing something that aligns with your true nature and values, you feel it very intensely. For me it was giving happiness to people thru providing help thru yoga or enabling them to surf. Down the line (feels right but less fulfilling n intense) was working as an academic teacher n in hospitality serving people. Last was when I just felt I was helping no one but big corporates make more money. I think the truth comes from within so you shd look inside yourself. But aside from understanding your truth you also need to understand what path you r walking and where it leads to. If IB is a means to get you to a point where you can do smtg u love in a limited time period after, then during this period yes u need to be positive and keep your goals in minds eye! But don’t be positive and keep spending years of your life in smtg that’s not great for you without an end in sight - life’s too short to spend it on a job that’s bs to you. That’s my take 🦋🌻😅

[@josephcrouch8732]

Hahahaha.... you're so awesome!!!!!

[@JeanVoronkova]

Lol thanks

[@rovinmangal4675]

You cant even say anything if you get feedback, if you do they fire you to.

[@NickRedstar]

I was working a construction job. I swept the same floor for 8 hours. I only did that for 2 days. Then I was doing real work. BS jobs can happen in any industry

[@JeanVoronkova]

thats true but some industries definitely have a higher tendency than others for BS stuff lol

[@Faith44223]

Yes. The micro Manger gets on my nerves. I work at a decent job that I actually like but you can't sit down for two seconds without on of the supervisors saying something. On top of that you have co workers taking pictures of you to get brownie points.

[@JeanVoronkova]

That sounds really annoying. Both the micro managing and the sneak coworkers!

[@lizzie7929]

💜

[@terubong]

I'm quite sure your place aren't affected by the floods and landslide but do take care and be careful when moving around nowadays.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Thanks Terubong, yes we r fine but I’m increasingly worried about what’s going on in central bali n the other areas - the Insta stories look terrible we saw parts of Ubud we frequent whenever we r there collapsing due to the flood n rains

[@JeanVoronkova]

I asked my bali friends they said what’s happening now is really not normal. It’s very worrisome

[@terubong]

@@JeanVoronkova Jalan Bisma? I used to stay up there where the road ended just after Villa Chempaka and was ricefields thereafter. It was like 30 years ago and back then it was a rather steep climb with gravel covered road. Takes a bit of finesse to drive the jeep up and slide down sometimes. Many small crashes happens often. Now it seems paved and somewhat flatten. Miro's on the right is good & very romantic, always love eating there. I share your alarm on what's happening in the central. That's why when I first saw the videos my first thought was you. Hoping you weren't near there. Some roads/bridges washed away. Quite scary indeed. And many of the nice places I like were in areas susceptible to landslides (seems more unstable then Jln Bisma actually) It may not be very widespread, but it is worrisome as we never know where it may happen and it'll raise a few hairs each time you're there. Better wait till weather is better and stick to safer places first. Take care!

[@kelvinth30]

middle management staff are mostly mindless people needed in the system to get things moving the way their boss wants to see , they are yes man and a boss pleaser . working under these people you can only say yes . and there's no need to reason out with them as it will bring your dignity down even further . And how much they are making a month , its pathetic.

[@JeanVoronkova]

They make ppl miserable, and worse they’re usually pretty unhappy in their own jobs as well. Ah well.

[@deadstock82]

I am married, but you are my soul-mate!

[@JeanVoronkova]

ahaa kindred spirit hey

[@deadstock82]

@@JeanVoronkova 100% dear Jean :) Been watching quite a few of your vids since I discovered you a couple days ago and we have gone through so many similar developments and realizations about what truly matters in life and what type of life we want to live. I don't think I have ever talked to anyone or watched any video where basically everything you say resonates with me. The difference is you actually have already created the life you always longed for and I am still stuck in my fears of making such a big change and overwhelmed with how to make it happen. p.s. Besides surfing scuba diving is also my big passion, which makes it a bit more complicated to choose the perfect place to live ;) you should also try it in case you haven't already. it complements surfing waves perfectly... Big hug from Zürich

[@Nora_meow99]

Hello, Good evening 🐈‍⬛❣️

[@JeanVoronkova]

Cheers!

[@verryaryawan]

Jean...make a cooking food video please

[@JeanVoronkova]

Haha oh man that’s really not my department unless u wanna learn how to make bean salad haha! V is a much better cook!

[@verryaryawan]

@@JeanVoronkova that's exactly we wanna see

[@bordercollieluxi]

I hate work setting in Germany. So many rules that I could fuck it. At least I can live in my apartment with no work.

[@joseysparadise9899]

I regret to inform you that teaching has become a bs job now. I’m basically a glorified baby sitter who observes and reports. Kids don’t need you to teach them anymore because they can just ask their phone “Siri, what is 3 times 4?” Absolutely soul crushing 😢…

[@TheBearNecessitiesofknowledge]

Well with the mindset of teachers like you the makes sense the education system is failing and failing students

[@nicolasmoreau3434]

a bs job where you are treated well and have fun colleagues can be totally fine. Depends on your priorities in life and where you are at a given stage

[@JeanVoronkova]

Haha for a short period of time definitely yes! Trick is not to become trapped in that indefinitely that can be very depressing

[@jqhn316]

I enjoyed the commentary about BS jobs. May I add that BS jobs have BS co-workers and BS politics.

[@Rafzee93]

I’m quitting my job soon

[@JeanVoronkova]

Yay for u! Assuming u don’t like it

[@jonathansakura]

I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel lol 😆 Greetings from korea 🇰🇷 💕

[@JeanVoronkova]

Anneonghaseyo! Or however u spell that haha. Hamster wheels hmm, can be good or bad I guess. How do u feel about yours

[@jonathansakura]

@@JeanVoronkova ready for more of a creative outlet

[@HungNguyen-dm3nr]

There are many BS jobs that are well paid in big organisations. It’s driven by bureaucracy.

[@JeanVoronkova]

Yes and that’s a sad direction of evolution by our current society. BS jobs didn’t really exist the way they do today, at the start of the Industrial Revolution

[@fahadhussain66]

6:51 then why do all supermarket employees feel so dead and miserable EVEN WITHOUT covid jobs?

[@christopherleng]

Awesome! Getting paid with nothing much to do! After completing every of my tasks I can spend every paid hours to plan my life! Rediscover myself by walking meditation while getting paid!😍

[@JeanVoronkova]

Love that positive attitude, but just wishing you at some point in life can experience also the satisfaction of working a proper job that you actually find meaningful. It’s not 100% rosy - no work ever is - but the daily ins n outs have a different flavour of happiness 🤓🤗

[@AndrewTube]

second!

[@JeanVoronkova]

Woohoo!

[@lizzie7929]

Some jobs can be seen as slavery depending on your perspective!🍁🍁🍁

[@JeanVoronkova]

Definitely

[@olegpetrovskiy1583]

Interesting girl with russian second name.

[@hannathehappynomad]

It's her last name from her Russian husband. Пожалуста😂

[@thecowegg]

Look on the bright side, your work was not to work....so yeah...😃 Gov can't give out money for free rite...so at least you had a job that they can pay you for 😉