The Painful Tragedy of Scalebound

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Capcom veterans Atsushi Inaba, Hideki Kamiya, and Shinji Mikami joined forces in 2007 to found PlatinumGames. The company developed an impressive stable of IP within a matter of years, operating out of Capcom’s backyard in Osaka, Japan, while producing critically acclaimed games such as Bayonetta and Vanquish for Sega. These titles and several others set a cadence for Platinum, mixing combo-based action with over-the-top visuals for incomparable interactive experiences. All the while, however, Hideki Kamiya had another idea brewing in the back of his mind, a concept that would finally give respect to the larger-than-life creatures he’d long adored.
Scalebound was to star a young man stranded in a fantastical world whose companion, the fire-breathing dragon named Thuban, constituted the last of its kind. Instead of an antagonistic or purely functional relationship, the two unlikely allies forged a bond that united them across storytelling and gameplay mechanics. Publisher Microsoft Studios fell head over heels for Platinum’s pitch, signing a deal that would make the sprawling adventure exclusive to Xbox One.
The public similarly grew attached to Scalebound, fawning over every screenshot and morsel of gameplay footage shown during its fleeting life cycle. But it never actually saw the light of day, not outside of well-crafted vertical slices and glowing press previews. Announced during the nadir of the Xbox One’s early days, Scalebound seemed a beacon of hope for the beleaguered console. Thus, all were surprised when Microsoft abruptly ceased development on the project, pulling the plug the year it was to hit store shelves. And the fact that Microsoft owns the intellectual property rights means the keys to Kamiya’s unique vision remain outside of PlatinumGames’ reach for an indeterminate length of time.
This is the tragedy of Scalebound.
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@Malsolo
@Malsolo Жыл бұрын
Every time I see footage from this game, my heart breaks all over agin. God I was so stoked for this game...
@vaguedreams
@vaguedreams Жыл бұрын
I was stoked about Platinum working exclusively for the XBox. I felt if any of the third party dev's were going to be able to make magic on the X1 it would be them. Breaks my heart as well.
@kevingame3198
@kevingame3198 Жыл бұрын
@@vaguedreams I get the sense that it’s not Microsoft fold it actually platinum games is doing because the team they’re working on is very inexperienced
@Kankayama
@Kankayama Жыл бұрын
​@@vaguedreams same here back in those days all I had was a xbox one due to financial issues and poverty. I loved platinum games from the start and was expecting an interesting fun game exclusive but never got it. I still sometimes think about it and wonder. Altho I feel like it would be game around 7 out of 10, it would surely take a special place for those inteserted
@nickbutler9831
@nickbutler9831 Жыл бұрын
It was canceled for halo wars 2
@Demsky83
@Demsky83 Жыл бұрын
It wouldve inspired me to purchase an Xbox again.
@Indigo_Gaming
@Indigo_Gaming Жыл бұрын
I saw a lot of the obvious problems like marketing and graphic performance early on after it was revealed, but for a passion project like this to go on for so long and (seemingly) get the axe very late into development is a damn shame. Hopefully the ideas get a revival sometime in the future. Other ambitious games like Deep Down and Edge of Twilight were also cancelled/heavily downscaled around this time as well.
@sukamadik5983
@sukamadik5983 Жыл бұрын
I really hope the concept (if not the actual game itself) makes a comeback as well. Also it's been over 7 months since your last video and I can only rewatch your old stuff so many times. Btw just wanted to let you know that your Ruiner review was what convinced me to buy it so thanks 🙏.
@lopiklop
@lopiklop Жыл бұрын
@@sukamadik5983 i wouldn't be surprised if most that stuff was straight up lost or just scrapped. Waste of harddrive space.
@lopiklop
@lopiklop Жыл бұрын
In the 90s it would be more common it's lost. These days, most likely just deleted.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Жыл бұрын
I have a hunch Bayonetta 3 used some of this game's ideas in their combat system (which is more focused on Wicked Weaves)...
@GrippeeTV
@GrippeeTV Жыл бұрын
I knew Deep Down was too good to be true when they showed the visuals. I’m hoping that game is still in development but they scaled it back until they can reach the vision they have for it. Modern graphics aren’t too far behind what they showed for Deep Down, so hopefully the time is nigh.
@GmbtEXE
@GmbtEXE Жыл бұрын
While the project died, the ideas remained and then repurposed with Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3, kinda wonder if Project G.G. will take some additional DNA from what would've been Scalebound
@MrGregory777
@MrGregory777 Жыл бұрын
People say that but I don't think it is true. Astral Chain and W101 have the same mechanics. Instead of different morphs you use different Legions. It doesn't look like any ideas were repurposed because if you play enough Platinum games, like I did, you notice how similar they all are. Except for the ones like Infinite Space, Sol Cresta etc. You always have a dodge, slow time mechanic, red hot kick, combos etc. What did Scalebound give to Bayonetta and Astral Chain that wasn't already in a different Platinum game? Project G.G is probably going to be another superhero sentai game like Viewtiful Joe or W101. When I first saw the name I assumed it was a new Joe game but it can't be because Capcom
@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Жыл бұрын
​@MrGregory777 what scalebound gave Astral Chain and Bayo 3 was the idea of controlling 2 characters at the same time. And it worked. Astral chain was Platinum's best selling original IP and Bayo 3 sold really well.
@THUGPUTIN
@THUGPUTIN Ай бұрын
I hate to say it..hideki kamiya destroyed bayonetta series with bayonetta 3...he made it directionless and left... It's over for bayonetta 3.... I love platinum games but their games don't bring huge money whether it's wonderful 101,vanquish, bayonetta series(bayonetta 2/3 was funded by Nintendo because no 3rd party were publishing games for wiiu) Astral chain etc... Babylon fall was huge flop.. neir automata was their biggest success selling 7.5 million copies... Rest of them have all done 1-2 million... And it's not like they haven't made successfull monster hunter or street fighter... They have.. But they always struggled with original IP... Here's the thing, Microsoft will never launch game like this half baked... People can blame Microsoft for Bethesda games but what we see now are ones already in development before Microsoft acquired Bethesda... Microsoft pushed starfield release date and sent their own team to finish game because Bethesda and Todd like always were putting unfinished game on sale..
@Galactic10-f1g
@Galactic10-f1g 12 күн бұрын
@@THUGPUTIN Keep yapping into the void
@sukamadik5983
@sukamadik5983 Жыл бұрын
This one broke my heart when it was cancelled 😢
@offlinegamer6756
@offlinegamer6756 Жыл бұрын
i fell you bro , i feel you !
@jeyfomson6364
@jeyfomson6364 Жыл бұрын
Likewise, it was sad news.
@offlinegamer6756
@offlinegamer6756 Жыл бұрын
imagine it with the new hardware , both on Xbox One Series X and a modern PC , with raytracing and 4K textures , a bombastic OST , an Xbox One X Elite pro Joystick on hands , With your cool dragon pet and the Dante looking guy , man ! why Microsoft , WHY ?
@jeyfomson6364
@jeyfomson6364 Жыл бұрын
@@offlinegamer6756 ive been asking the same question all these years. Truly a missed opportunity.
@magregory1985
@magregory1985 Жыл бұрын
Agreed was hyped for this one
@Ironclad17
@Ironclad17 Жыл бұрын
A passion project based in childhood fantasies we all had at some point. There's more then a passing similarity to the most recent MH titles and the Lost Planet series. It also reminds me of the final boss battle in Dragon Age Inquisition that also used a dragon companion fighting alongside you. Mechanically I can see it being a nightmare to control and design unique encounters for. Keeping the giant dragon and player both on camera alone would be hard. All of this is compounded by console limitations and gamepad controls. I'm sure the developers had a nagging thought in their head, "Why do we have a human player character? Let's just play as the dragon!" If the game were to release I suspect the dragon would only be available for limited, highly curated set-piece levels and most the game would be a generic third person hack n'slash with a bland MC and generic story. Maybe, maybe it could work if players could ride the dragon and that would give them significantly more control and gameplay would be a balance of encounters fighting on your own or atop the dragon. The LotR Shadows of Mordor series used mounts that way.
@Netelolo
@Netelolo Жыл бұрын
My man, you didn’t listen to the video.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you miss the point that the devs wanted to avoid doing such things since they wanted to try something different to not make it just another mount like other games that does it. Something I am sure was possible with the right team and time but Platinum games themselves couldn't pull it off.
@Netelolo
@Netelolo Жыл бұрын
@@Deliveredmean42 exactly, clearly said!
@R3TR0J4N
@R3TR0J4N Жыл бұрын
the xbox one run ran decently on KCD compare to its rival..
@emlyndewar
@emlyndewar Жыл бұрын
This is one I keep waiting for a "surprise" re-reveal of, huge applause with it released not long afterwards. I like to have completely unrealistic expectations… 😂
@themagalanium9491
@themagalanium9491 Жыл бұрын
Same bro... same
@FR4M3Sharma
@FR4M3Sharma Жыл бұрын
This really made me appreciate Platinum Games even more, I love God Hand, that's the only game I've played somewhat 50% that's made by them, I have MGRR, Bayonetta and Vanquish on my To-Do List too. Really these titles see the light of the day sometime in the future again.
@stalzemsty1669
@stalzemsty1669 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a deep dive into the Phantom Console.
@Spitefulrish
@Spitefulrish Жыл бұрын
Still hurts. I want this game.
@officialmarquezdellamore6888
@officialmarquezdellamore6888 Жыл бұрын
Man, this was painful. I'd still want to contribute to reviving this game. It sounds so badass.
@XGlite015
@XGlite015 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that exclusive games from third party developers like Sunsey Overdrive and Dead Rising 3 came out. It's sad that Scalebound didn't make it.
@KouD3Graw
@KouD3Graw Жыл бұрын
what I learned from an article years ago was that Platinum developed the ENTIRE game in an engine that couldn't do what they needed the game to be able to do so the giant issue came with them having to literally develop the entire game from scratch in an entire new game engine. Microsoft would have to green light and fund an entire game to be built from scratch after spending the amount they've already spent on the first Scalebound iteration. Something like that would have ballooned the development cost when Microsoft was looking forward to a great return investment. That's a big big ouch. Hopefully they get to make Scalebound again and this time make it in the right game engine. I would love for Scalebound to be made like a smaller game to build the IP back up.
@mandisaw
@mandisaw Жыл бұрын
Surely if MS was as hands-on as they describe in the vid, there would've been some discussion around the engine-choice, right? Although I've heard that kind of problem come up various times, even with established studios & in-house engines, so maybe not 😣
@anushmichealbiju916
@anushmichealbiju916 Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure that's not the case hideki kamiyo came out and apologized to ms because they used the funds for developing other games like nier
@flyingsquid6062
@flyingsquid6062 Жыл бұрын
Still nowhere near as heartbreaking as the cancellation of Star Wars 1313
@EximiusDux
@EximiusDux Жыл бұрын
I bet 1313 is barely remembered by anybody but the most extreme star wars fans by now. That game got cancelled years ago and barely reached the eyes of the mainstream viewers or gamers.
@kremesauce
@kremesauce Жыл бұрын
@@EximiusDux wrong, I’m a casual Star Wars fan and it blew me away and I still lament it to this day especially with how close it was to being finished
@EximiusDux
@EximiusDux Жыл бұрын
@@kremesauce There is a big difference between you sharing an opinion, and somebody else being wrong.
@actualartist3082
@actualartist3082 Жыл бұрын
@@EximiusDux Correct! You we're wrong. Glad you're able to tell the difference.
@DaveVoyles
@DaveVoyles Жыл бұрын
Amazing that Battlefront 2 (2017) got released, and not that.
@chuckdontjudge
@chuckdontjudge Жыл бұрын
Scalebound was a bigger tragedy than P.T. if were being honest
@gunnerroo6514
@gunnerroo6514 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing gameplay back in the day and now I know why I never played it. Hopefully Microsoft will revive this project at a later date.
@HysteryProduction
@HysteryProduction Жыл бұрын
As someone who always loved dragons/wyverns, and always being heart-broken to see them in the evil role and we often have to kill them, I was so excited to finally have the opportunity to play a game where not only they're not enemies, but allies. Allies you could fight along with, get imbued with, interact with, form bonds with. Even the customization, it was like -the- dream game for dragon lovers. It was heartbreaking to see it get shelved and eventually cancelled.
@ubx9563
@ubx9563 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was just miserable that we weren't allowed to get it.
@igodreamer7096
@igodreamer7096 Жыл бұрын
Another sad tale of what could be and never was. Still, I wait to see more exciting and funny games from Platinum studio!
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus Жыл бұрын
finally a video about my favourite developers :) Scalebound is a pretty sad story indeed
@OmniFluxX
@OmniFluxX Жыл бұрын
Im currently a student as a game designer, in a weird way, cancelled games like scalebound and that single player star wars game from a while ago are one of my most anticipated games for me personally, and i was devastated, I want become a lead designer/director of many games that many will adore. I personally want to create something like scalebound in the future, that is one of my personal goals; the concept was so cool! its like a westernized legend of zelda with a pet dragon! ill give Ms 10 YEARS before i start creating something like scale bound, otherwise im going to do something to scratch that itch. but really, i wish they restart the project; i doubt they will
@nihren2406
@nihren2406 Жыл бұрын
Probably should've dug a big more into the reports. It seemed clear from the reports that it was definitely more on Platinum's end with a lot of missed deadlines. I'd really love to see Microsoft revisit Scalebound with Platinum. I imagine the Xbox One could partly have been to blame. It was a fairly ambitious title being developed on a fairly underpowered and anemic platform. A do-over would need to be exclusive to current-gen platforms and PC to give it the power budget it deserves.
@hypno18s
@hypno18s Жыл бұрын
Nah the xbone could have handled it after all half its ideas made it into a switch game so anything's possible.
@littlebigcommentaries9833
@littlebigcommentaries9833 Жыл бұрын
Bro no ones buying that shit. Microsoft is known for pushing out games too early. I never forgot about the old windows universal platform and their store. All the dead studios they caused. The franchises they killed as well. They made it cool to charge a fee for online play. Helped push MTX into mainstream. Remember when Valve wanted to release orange box with free updates anyone? Or how ODST was intended to be a free DLC release from Bungie. Microsoft saw all this shit and said MONEY like they're a fucking copy of Mr. Krabs. Halo Infinite. They even trashed their biggest IP. Bro platinum has delivered countless games and exclusives. No problem. And it's worth noting none of that shit released as a broken half finished mess as per modern standards. Suddenly this Xbox exclusive is a problem? They just didn't want to give the devs the time needed to make the rest of the game and we all know it.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
@@hypno18s Hey if the Switch could manage With Bayonetta 3, I am sure the xbox one could as well with some optimization.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
@@littlebigcommentaries9833 That's a funny way of saying Halo 5, but yes Infinite is also up there too.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
@@littlebigcommentaries9833 Altho Platinum hasn't been perfect either, since they also release duds games that you forgot they existed.
@g3ar75
@g3ar75 Жыл бұрын
Scalebound got cut but Redfall got the pass?
@anterosauditore5850
@anterosauditore5850 Жыл бұрын
Its Such a shame that almoust no one cared abouth scalebound until it was cancelled
@RAIZ0R1211
@RAIZ0R1211 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting topi, i consider myself to be a pretty huge platinum fan, so when this was canned i was pretty sad But i do see glimpses of its design inside of bayonetta 3, the massive kaiju theming, using them as attacks etc, it doesn't quite hit the same notes, but the inspiration is there for sure
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D Жыл бұрын
you may want to explain vertical slices to your audience. I even had to explain it to people within our studio.
@KingFreshies
@KingFreshies 5 ай бұрын
Game definitely was ahead of its time. I recon microsoft felt threatened
@brieb402
@brieb402 Жыл бұрын
This us probably obe if the biggest misses in gaming ever. This would've been freaking *amazing* and I'm pissedit was taken from us😭
@ashleysurridge626
@ashleysurridge626 Жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to this for ages was gutted
@deathdoor
@deathdoor Жыл бұрын
I'm just noticing this now, but the protagonist reminds me of Nero.
@DrazenX195
@DrazenX195 Жыл бұрын
I really wish things with this game didn't go down like they did. I was so excited for it. :(
@jayraymond3036
@jayraymond3036 Жыл бұрын
Love the content keep it up
@teotest3255
@teotest3255 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always enjoyable :)
@neliaironwood7573
@neliaironwood7573 Жыл бұрын
Here's obviously what went wrong with Scalebound; -NO plot or story explained (need I say more?) -Convoluted/confusing mechanics (the game expects your dragon to be stuck with you if its going to share its lifebar with you). -The use of stock UE4 menus -It felt like it was trying to mishmash several ideas into one. Granblue Fantasy Relink, throughout its troubled production and even the plot restart, at least it didn't try to reverse-engineer dumb ideas and try to make them work. -The E3 2016 trailer was scripted in such a way where it was 50% on-rails combat meaning you'd have to copy the exact movements to make it all work While Scalebound's concept can be done right, I'm quite surprised no one else has actually tried making such a game themselves, not even indies. I can tell you from what I've seen, Scalebound would require a very demanding control scheme (you'd need a way to command your animal companion/whatever, ride it, and so on). The sheer lack of plot (which I was the only one to bring this up) was a major major red flag. It's basically similar to Terraria: Otherworld where Otherworld couldn't justify its existence as with how the game was designed it didn't even know if it wanted to replace the original game or not. This cancellation isn't like with issues within the company like with Sadness, Star Wars 1313 or various other failed games. Microsoft might've considered handing development to someone else, but I think they might've turned that down because they didn't see any more potential it going further. Even if Platinum had taken their time, this project would've just been taking too long. And when it comes to open world DmC-style games, this was way before the likes of Genshin and Wuthering Waves. I can tell you though that Kamiya's apology about co-op _did not age well_ with Babylon's Fall, which the State of Play trailer lied that you can parry Zenon's sword and use the Gideon Coffin on his sword. Guess what? You can't do that because that scene was actually SCRIPTED, meaning they programmed this scene specifically for the trailer.
@Alexander-nr5tt
@Alexander-nr5tt Жыл бұрын
Scalebound did have a plot and fully fleshed out world. They also brought in a couple of western writers as well (through MS connections I think). Blame Microsoft for not showcasing any of it in the marketing.
@saltierdongs7760
@saltierdongs7760 Жыл бұрын
Day is gonna be good with an upload from GVMERS
@blackninja504
@blackninja504 Жыл бұрын
They apologize alot to MS recently and asked to do scalebound again. But would you give a team more money after they took your money and used it on other projects? While I really wanted scalebound to come out, I respect MS decision to not give more money.
@Zanoladab
@Zanoladab Жыл бұрын
That's just a rumor. The money that MS provided was just for scalebound. If they really did use it for other projects, the company would have been shutdown for fraud.
@LazarheaD
@LazarheaD Жыл бұрын
I remember the hype about this, even I was kinda excited.
@danteshollowedgrounds
@danteshollowedgrounds Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find your channel for a long time now, I forgot and gave up at the time but oddly enough I found it again now!
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 Жыл бұрын
I'm still sad about this one, because I wanted to play around with my very own personalized dragon
@eliavita
@eliavita Жыл бұрын
Come on Phill make it happen, we want it, platinum wants it, and you need to bolster exclusives, gamepass, and to appeal more to the asian market, come oooon
@TheDeFiler316
@TheDeFiler316 Жыл бұрын
Along with True Fantasy Live Online, Scalebound really stung when canceled. There was just so much potential there.
@RobsRemixes
@RobsRemixes Жыл бұрын
Bed time video sorted 👌🏻
@darkworldfilms8057
@darkworldfilms8057 Жыл бұрын
lol same
@blkreid
@blkreid Жыл бұрын
Ah man happy to see you came out with this.
@Archerboy666
@Archerboy666 5 ай бұрын
I literally sold my Xbox1 on ebay the month this game was cancelled. Scalebound was the entire reason i decided to switch from PlayStation to xbox and the cancellation just ruined me.
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 Жыл бұрын
Damn I remember this game looked awesome at E3! Think it was 2013? Anyway, they had a full "demo", which really made no sense as they cancelled the game soon after.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
2015 more likely, since that was the year they release the trailer.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 Жыл бұрын
I could have sworn there was more to this story. This was pretty scant.
@kruum
@kruum Жыл бұрын
I was also expecting more of a story in regard to what actually went down and led to the cancellation. Or info on the state of the game, and how far along development was. This was just a retelling of some surface facts with the 3 arc being, it was in development and then it got cancelled, :( The first part is interesting though, the background. But this was just a meh ending.
@actualartist3082
@actualartist3082 Жыл бұрын
just because you want more, doesnt mean there is more. grow up.
@canobus1906
@canobus1906 Жыл бұрын
@@actualartist3082 There is more to the story that isn't being told. Like what the American developers said about it after the fact. Don't be a dick fanboy.
@kevynhansyn2902
@kevynhansyn2902 Жыл бұрын
@@kruumyeah some of their videos lately have been very short, or shorter than usual. I am kind of being turned away from this channel, but thanks for saving me 15 minutes.
@JachAnen
@JachAnen Жыл бұрын
Probably too much rumor to include
@cybersoldierforever
@cybersoldierforever Жыл бұрын
What a shame this never saw the light of day. And it probably won't be revived for the years to come.
@rodrigofoggiato
@rodrigofoggiato Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the trailers at the time and thinking it didn't look that great of a game, but seeing it again now, it looked pretty awesome. Shame it didn't come out.
@capoeragames2081
@capoeragames2081 Жыл бұрын
it's funny how laggy the game was back in those presentations and no one was talking about performance issues, people was just mesmerized with the passion poured into the project, i trully hope this game returns, had so much potential to be shelved like that, i would deffinitely want to play that!
@AshXXMayftw
@AshXXMayftw Жыл бұрын
While it is sad the game never got the release it deserved, I am glad they were able to somewhat revive it within Bayonetta 3.
@KayoMichiels
@KayoMichiels Жыл бұрын
Not to mention one of the areas shown in trailers and demo's ended up as a location for Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
@darthv72
@darthv72 Жыл бұрын
Platinum brought this on themselves. they dont get to ask MS for more $$ while also taking that $$ and use it to finish OTHER projects. Ms got tired of being told excuse after excuse so they just pulled the plug. MS may eventually finish it themselves via another team but that is for them to decide. Platinum should never have taken on other projects when they had this one to work on.
@michaelb2westgaedu
@michaelb2westgaedu Жыл бұрын
Did I miss it altogether or did the video cover none of this???
@LianaSunburster
@LianaSunburster Жыл бұрын
@@michaelb2westgaedu Yeah, you didn't miss it. I rewatxhed this to make sure, they just completely fail to talk about Platinums misappropriation of funds. Bit fucking dodgy.
@anterosauditore5850
@anterosauditore5850 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelb2westgaedu no, he did not talked abouth how MS supported the "game" for almoust 6 year, how MS espend almoust 50 millons in Losses etc everything was for "platinum good MS bad" They did not even talked abouth how big of a problem was for platinum to make the game in UE4 since they never have experience with it, how kamiya come out and say that it was their responsability too for delivery etc
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 Жыл бұрын
@michaelb2westgaedu no you didn't miss it, alot of fanboys made it up.
@5chneemensch138
@5chneemensch138 Жыл бұрын
Sauce.
@VioletElite4
@VioletElite4 Жыл бұрын
You can tell by playing Bayonetta 3 that they really wanted Scalebound to come out just as much as us. It sucks that he kept trying to go back to his dream game after shipping other stuff like Bayonetta, Vanquish, etc. and while those games are fantastic, it sucks that he ever got to release the game that he always wanted to make.
@Pers0n97
@Pers0n97 Жыл бұрын
That video just reminded me that Fable Legend was a thing... and then wasn't a thing anymore.
@BillB808
@BillB808 Жыл бұрын
What a shame....that said Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3 both lack the old platinum magic and on point action..so who knows how it would have turned out..
@thelazyworkersandwich4169
@thelazyworkersandwich4169 Жыл бұрын
Considering how much Phil Spencer and Xbox have talked about how they want to have more Japanese games they are probably gonna revive Scalebound though it may take some time.
@WadeLife
@WadeLife Жыл бұрын
I remember this game was so hyped when announced...
@B_Ahmed1234
@B_Ahmed1234 Жыл бұрын
So much time and money spent with no end product.
@TheBrokenEclipse
@TheBrokenEclipse Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of this game, but it looks absolutely amazing - I really wish that it had been released.
@DavMCycle
@DavMCycle Жыл бұрын
As always you guys deliver excellent content, it is sad that game get cancelled , and that we never know the true potential of those cancelled games.
@franciscothedisco1416
@franciscothedisco1416 Жыл бұрын
Uhhhh, so no mention that platinum games was lying to Microsoft about development, asking for more time and money for half a decade as they poured said resources from scalebound and used it to develope nier automata? A game that was a Sony timed exclusive, y'know their direct competitor?
@Alexander-nr5tt
@Alexander-nr5tt Жыл бұрын
Maybe they didn't mention it because it's a load of bs.
@hitnfgsbluntd1194
@hitnfgsbluntd1194 Жыл бұрын
If you are going to tell the story of "Scalebound" tell it then tell it right. Platinum games use the money/resources they were supposed to use for Scalebound to finish Nier & had nothing to show for it when Xbox went to check on progress. Microsoft & Xbox took the heat for Platinum games, so Platinum could save face and keep a good reputation in the industry. The Director even came out recently (close to 4 months ago) basically stating it was their fault & would love to work on the project again but Microsoft IS gonna tell them no because of what they did.
@jaymacc93
@jaymacc93 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Alexander-nr5tt
@Alexander-nr5tt Жыл бұрын
You're delusional.
@hitnfgsbluntd1194
@hitnfgsbluntd1194 Жыл бұрын
@@Alexander-nr5tt Say what you want but the truth is in Black & White. Platinum screwed over Xbox and lied about the development delays. How would you feel if you paid someone to do something then they cash the check or take your money & don't do the job? That's why Platinum will never see that IP again!!!!!!
@hirosese
@hirosese Жыл бұрын
That’s not exactly what happened. Microsoft didnt want Nier to outshine their game from playstation. So they cut ties knowing they weren’t gonna finish the support
@Y4manata
@Y4manata Жыл бұрын
I hope Scalebound is a valuable experience for platinumgames. Looking forward to their next original IP Babylon's Fall!
@almalone3282
@almalone3282 Жыл бұрын
died in 3 months with a max player count of 300. Then again why anyone thought it was a good idea to release right next to Elden ring is beyond me
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Жыл бұрын
loooooool
@neliaironwood7573
@neliaironwood7573 Жыл бұрын
You can tell though that Babylon's Fall has some Scalebound DNA. That being the multiplayer aspects
@mechanicalmonk2020
@mechanicalmonk2020 Жыл бұрын
@@almalone3282 "game was shit, quick complain it was overshadowed instead"
@Oggar0912
@Oggar0912 Жыл бұрын
Great video! The way things are going, its only matter of time before we get a "From Platinum to ash, the death of PlatinumGames" :(
@MrFanMaker
@MrFanMaker Жыл бұрын
Platinum is doing fine. Bayonetta 3 is a major significant sale compared to bayo 1 and 2
@freedom375
@freedom375 Жыл бұрын
Gotta factor in how badly Babylon's Fall performed though. Sure Bayo 3 maybe killing it in sales but Babylon's Fall probably burned through some serious cash and resources.
@Alexander-nr5tt
@Alexander-nr5tt Жыл бұрын
@@freedom375 It didn't burn through any of their cash. It's a Square Enix published game.
@Rokujou1
@Rokujou1 4 ай бұрын
Never Forget
@khalidhashmi9772
@khalidhashmi9772 Жыл бұрын
I hope Microsoft gives this another shot. It's a really cool idea and could be really awesome.
@AidenAlias
@AidenAlias Жыл бұрын
I still think this game would have been cool and really was looking forward to it
@fatswordsmanslej
@fatswordsmanslej Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping they finish it eventually.
@ElOsoMarino
@ElOsoMarino Жыл бұрын
I was so excited for this game, i hope MS give Platinum another chance at the IP since they own it now :'(
@ImCroozy
@ImCroozy 7 ай бұрын
I was SO sad when it got cancelled REALLY hoping it comes back somehow.
@KyrosTheWolf
@KyrosTheWolf Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's alot more to this than the video entails. Very short for a GVMERS video, usually they're 30 mins to an hour. Judging by some comments and Kamiya's twitter drama that's IN THE THUMBNAIL BUT NOT MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO, I feel this video skipped out alot
@UltimatePerfection
@UltimatePerfection 7 ай бұрын
I seriously hope people will never let that one go.
@eluv2401
@eluv2401 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this made.
@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506
@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506 Жыл бұрын
It still hurts to this day. Hoping the IP will be picked up again and we finally get the game.
@gtabro1337
@gtabro1337 Жыл бұрын
Suddenly the Elden Ring Greatsword looks pretty realistic
@timogul
@timogul Жыл бұрын
Drew: Isekais into a magical world and gets a dragon buggy. Frey: Isekais into a magical world and gets a bengal. . . sorry, misspelled that one, a _bangle._
@jameslazaridis4180
@jameslazaridis4180 Жыл бұрын
*Slap both of them * Your Dead to me
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus Жыл бұрын
this main character absolutely looks like Nero from DMC5
@ryobibattery
@ryobibattery Жыл бұрын
Major The Last Guardian moment
@cyphaborg6598
@cyphaborg6598 Жыл бұрын
Nah totally different game.
@dynamon911nz
@dynamon911nz Жыл бұрын
wile we never seen an game like this, bayonetta 3 brought several ideas from scalebound. if you ever noticed, several demons are fairly more improvment over is incarnation. so nothing was wasted.
@cyphaborg6598
@cyphaborg6598 Жыл бұрын
I just think they delivered something that Microsoft didn't want to release. While Astral Chain is a pretty good game and a nice concept they probably didn't pull Scalebound off to Microsoft's liking. Them (both parties) not saying what happened even after all these years is pretty telling.
@littlebigcommentaries9833
@littlebigcommentaries9833 Жыл бұрын
Microcuck just didn't want to give the game the time it needed. Seen it a billion times already. They don't want to continue their reputation of pushing a studio to deliver a game for it to come out half broken and flop. I mean who are we kidding here? They only killed half the studios they bought before the huge buyouts in recent memory.
@Alexander-nr5tt
@Alexander-nr5tt Жыл бұрын
When do companies ever talk about cancelled projects?
@cyphaborg6598
@cyphaborg6598 3 ай бұрын
@@Alexander-nr5tt Not very often, these days it's mostly because of leaks. Example: How there was a Playstation 3 build of Gears of War 3 that needs a PS3 devkit to run at all,according to Epic Games used as a way to test how UE3 worked on PS3, which is weird IMO, they already had a 2008 game UT3 (well late 2007 in the US)so not sure why they needed testing that late in the console's lifecycle.
@fuzzylogic3017
@fuzzylogic3017 Жыл бұрын
They should have turned Scalebound into a Series X exclusive launch title bundled with the console, to showcase its capabilities. Like what SONY did with Astro's Playroom.
@Spezifischable
@Spezifischable Жыл бұрын
Since Babylons Fall I’m done supporting platinum games.
@stega2970
@stega2970 Жыл бұрын
I remember almost buying an Xbox one because this game was exclusive to it. However something made me choose a PS4 instead and im glad I did, just a huge shame this game will likely never be realized.
@Adulf472
@Adulf472 Жыл бұрын
Quality content as usual - thank you! Attempt #18 How about the rise and fall of Mechwarrior series? :)
@fireaza
@fireaza Жыл бұрын
"Hi. Would you like to talk to me about dinosaurs?" -Hideki Kamiya (probably)
@saintboot8410
@saintboot8410 Жыл бұрын
Kamiya speaking english on stage!? I hope that did not hurt him so much, having to speak to so many "insects" like that! What a nightmare for him!
@littlebigcommentaries9833
@littlebigcommentaries9833 Жыл бұрын
Bro it's fucking twitter and he was getting trolled on for the dumbest shit. All the liberal sjws in the west and such. He's from a totally different culture and obviously he doesn't get trolled in Japanese on twitter because they don't tend to do that sort of thing like we do or take it nearly to the same level. Him flipping out and totally disconnecting from anything outside of Japanese was the reasonable and healthy thing to do. It's online cancer and he obviously didn't want to put up with hearing criticisms about nonsense from essentially faceless people from miles away. Insects is a general insult. But go off take it to vaguely racist levels.
@fantoniumnitrous
@fantoniumnitrous 11 ай бұрын
Why wasn't Scalebound a Wii U exclusive instead? Think about it: on the TV, you'd control Drew fighting enemies in a typical Action Role-Playing style. On the Gamepad, you'd control Thuban by using the stylus to direct where he goes and command who he attacks. You wouldn't always have had to focus on Thuban though except when if the Gamepad starts vibrating to indicate that Thuban is taking damage so you'd switch back to Drew and help him out. Given that Nintendo was also a Japanese company that had collaborations with them and given the Wii U's overall lack of third-party support, this game would have greatly benefited the console.
@NinusMaximus
@NinusMaximus Жыл бұрын
Oh this one still hurts.
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus Жыл бұрын
the current situation seems pretty sad for this studio, their games are extremely underrated and they should get more money to continue making their own IPs
@Scerttle
@Scerttle Жыл бұрын
It's a damn crying shame, yeah.
@TheDiepzone
@TheDiepzone Жыл бұрын
Disagree, Platinum is a slightly above average studio with more hype than actual substance. They tend to get higher scores due to reputation not due to the actual game. Nier is the only exception where the scores matched the game.
@littlebigcommentaries9833
@littlebigcommentaries9833 Жыл бұрын
Hot shit take. The wonderful 101, Astral Chain, and Vanquish were all really awesome games with completely unique gameplay. The scores for those games are deserved. Astral Chain contends for one of the best games on switch. Wonderful 101 as well on the wii U. Some people would also argue that they made one of the best wii games as well. Madworld. I wouldn't but the hype around that game was the biggest I recall for wii. That's 3 console gens on Nintendo their games dominate a spot near the top. Almost none of their games fit a generic model besides Bayonetta and Bayonetta is credited for being a revival of hack n slash the only one really worthy following DMC. And some people think Neir Automata is the best game ever made. Their pedigree is quite significant. Filled with unique and well above average games despite sales numbers. They are not just slightly above average. They're a studio that makes games that demand respect from people who appreciate games for their artistry rather than entertainment value. They are like the comedian's comedian. But with games. They do things that aren't being done. They make interesting and over the top narratives. They deliver games not broken and on time.
@TheDiepzone
@TheDiepzone Жыл бұрын
@@littlebigcommentaries9833 your comment just proves my point. Fans like you overhyped their games, statements like only "people who appreciates games" will see their artistry bla bla bla. No one cares. They just care if it's fun. Bayonetta is average, the idea that it revived the genre is such hyperbole, that genre never died. DMC4 is ten times that game and came the year before, not to mention Ninja Gaiden 2 that also came the year before. Madworld was boring as heck. Vanquish was fun but directed by a guy who left. Transformers was boring. I never tried Astral Chain and Wonderful 101 but looks to follow same pattern of being overhyped by their fans.
@phantasosxgames8488
@phantasosxgames8488 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDiepzone I mean , Astral Chain , Bayoneta , Nier , Vanquish and MGR deserves some hype. But I agree that Platinum is overhyped , people totally ignores that Platinum also have an equal amount of mid to boring games. And Bayonetta is not some some savior of the Hack n Slash genre or it's Stylish Action Subgenre , DMC4 and NG2 , like you said , existed prior to that. DMC5 had brought more revitalization for the genre than Bayonetta. Bayonetta only sold 2-3 millions , putting together Bayo 1 and Bayo 2 , while DMC Collection had that same amount of sales by itself , with 4 million sales in DMC4 and 6 million sales in DMC5. With a bunch of korean and chinese game developers creating new hack n slash due to DMC5 showing that the genre works.
@TheIMMORTALKAHNHD
@TheIMMORTALKAHNHD Жыл бұрын
I hit like on the video but i feel like we didnt get much of what happend??? Nobody was willing to share? I heard a rumor at time they were beinf forced to create a tacked on multi-player mode that just didnt mesh with the vision platinum had.
@Alexander-nr5tt
@Alexander-nr5tt Жыл бұрын
Not true. The creative producer for the game (JP Kellams) stated that multi-player was pitched from the beginning.
@TheIMMORTALKAHNHD
@TheIMMORTALKAHNHD Жыл бұрын
@Alexander nah weve gotten too much conflicting on that to take one persons word sorry. Its he said she said at best. Plus probably forced to say that bc thats what parent company wanted. Clealry the results spoke for themselves. Platinum wasnt a multi player team. They were known for bad ass single player action titles. It makes sense multi player didnt mesh
@nicholaspetrino7695
@nicholaspetrino7695 Жыл бұрын
The XBOX really NEEDED this exclusive! They have practically nothing in exclusives and are far behind Sony. Should have pushed this one through.
@arafatshafin2326
@arafatshafin2326 Жыл бұрын
great video but you left out a lot of information in your video like mismanaging fund that MS gave for this game, prioritise Nier: Automata over this game, and MS want this game on unreal4 which they have zero experience on that engine etc....
@Alexander-nr5tt
@Alexander-nr5tt Жыл бұрын
Nier has nothing to do with the development of this game.
@fugazy2656
@fugazy2656 5 ай бұрын
I feel like this why games should take time. This is baulders gate 3 did so well. Microsoft right now should start the development of the scale bound again in secret. Make sure the game works and do a big release like they did for star field.
@fantoniumnitrous
@fantoniumnitrous 2 ай бұрын
It ain't happening bro. The Microsoft of today is clearly not the Microsoft of the 2000s era.
@rikikage1689
@rikikage1689 Жыл бұрын
Microsoft didnt release a single Exclusive this year, reviving this in 2020 would have been a good shout as a launch title for the SX
@fuzzylogic3017
@fuzzylogic3017 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking!
@israelruiz8706
@israelruiz8706 Жыл бұрын
They reused some of the gameplay elements in bayonetta 3. So that's the closest we will ever get to this. Hopefully one day it's revived but I doubt it
@alanjay479
@alanjay479 Жыл бұрын
Huh I just realised how much Scalebound must have influenced the Demon Slave mechanic in Bayonetta 3!
@hanzo90
@hanzo90 Жыл бұрын
After having played Bayonetta 3 I can see some of Scalebounds DNA in it
@doyouthinkitsdead
@doyouthinkitsdead Жыл бұрын
Never heard of this game before! Nice one!
@tysonlaplante3957
@tysonlaplante3957 Жыл бұрын
these were always glorified tech demos with great ideas. should have mention the cost of developement MS put out in the video.
@johanneswetzler2861
@johanneswetzler2861 Жыл бұрын
Or how Phil Spencer destroyed Don Mattrick legacy.
@darchangeldavid
@darchangeldavid Жыл бұрын
X-Box needs first party games bad. They honestly need to get back with them and finish this game.
@Aliens1337
@Aliens1337 Жыл бұрын
This might be for the best. Platinum's track record with multiplayer game is honestly terrible. Mad World, Anarchy Reigns and most recently Babylon's Fall are all mediocre to bad.
@MrOnepiecem7
@MrOnepiecem7 Жыл бұрын
Mad World is good.
@georgie9303
@georgie9303 Жыл бұрын
@@MrOnepiecem7 that’s not a multiplayer game kid
@MrOnepiecem7
@MrOnepiecem7 Жыл бұрын
@@georgie9303 i know.
@georgie9303
@georgie9303 Жыл бұрын
@@MrOnepiecem7 I’m sorry for calling you a kid
@MrOnepiecem7
@MrOnepiecem7 Жыл бұрын
@@georgie9303 ok lel0
@findout1990
@findout1990 Жыл бұрын
So 16 minutes and you can’t spend a single second on what caused the development to fall apart 😮
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