Its really fun to watch 40-50 year old men who keep claiming to be super strong and tough and impossible-to-offend breaking down immediately upon hearing somebody disagree with them, and genuinely hilarious to see y'all get even more upset about Charlie Benante's name being mispronounced. Imagine being so easily triggered by such a simple mistake. Gonna turn all your comments into a drinking game so keep the hate coming. 😎
@96frostyofficial2 жыл бұрын
I'll drink a Gatorade along with you drinking beer or vodka if that's okay with you.
@UnderWorldOfDarkness2 жыл бұрын
Dude, why are all you metal news commentators so anal retentive. You seriously need to relax, have an enema, do a cleanse, something. You have issues. ...get help
@AstolfoTheRiderOfBlack2 жыл бұрын
What's even more funny (at least to me) is that a guy, with over 200K subscribers said in the comments pretty much the same thing that the other fanboys keep saying, which is "Gatekeeping is bad, im going to the concert either way" all while at the same time he is Milking a company called Gamestop for views, not to mention, he also made a video 2 months ago literally titled "Johnny Depp WILL NOT win this Trial" which you know. Is funny considering he won said trial.
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
lmao what, who is this mystery person
@AstolfoTheRiderOfBlack2 жыл бұрын
@@themetalmeltdownofficial i think his name was something like Camelot with caps, but you'll know it once you see a checkmark next to his name, which is only given to channels with over 100K subs
@LouShine122 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The only reason this is happening is because Vinnie isn't around to say "No!".
@peeweedinosuar32817 ай бұрын
That was litterally ny instinct on this whole thing. Once vinnie was out of the picture resting in peace with his brother dime. Phil and zakk wylde wasted no time finally getting this reunion going. Dick move phil. Dick move
@SuperStrik94 ай бұрын
Facts.
@brucekenkel36882 жыл бұрын
Pantera, the Cash Cows from Hell
@richardpunzalan43475 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 😆
@Samotbackwards2 жыл бұрын
This is like Ringo and Paul doing a Beatles tour, or the remaining Queen members doing... hey wait Queen is doing that!
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
Lmao yeah Queen still being around feels... weird. At least Adam Lambert is a better replacement than Paul Rodgers was.
@Samotbackwards2 жыл бұрын
@@themetalmeltdownofficial Adam Lambert is a great singer in my opinion, but without Freddie it feels weird. And I agree, Adam Lambert is better than Paul.
@mgtowmichigander55282 жыл бұрын
This is going to fail miserably
@jasondismuke48372 жыл бұрын
This is more like Sammy and Michael, or Michael and Dave doing a tour without the Van Halen bros.
@albertrivera54432 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Slayer did it also
@EnslavedAngel_bruh2 жыл бұрын
Evil Phil Anselmo be like : I love minorities
@AndDeathForAll822 жыл бұрын
He straight up threatened to kill Dime right before he was murdered. That’s enough for me to hate this.
@stevensutherland54432 жыл бұрын
Opinions man. Everyone has one. PanterA has always been my favorite band. I’m now 40 and saw them live 10 times back in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Got to hang out with them multiple times too. I’m almost positive this will NOT be billed as a “Reunion “ but as a tribute. Zakk was one of dimes best friends and Charlie was also very close buds too. They will do it right and although they can’t duplicate Dime and Vince exactly I don’t think they are trying to. It’s gonna be a tour to honor the legacy of Dime, Vince and the band. Like it or not it happening.
@neamia32 жыл бұрын
Has nothing to do with opinions it has to do with one of the last recorded interviews with Vinnie Paul on that metal show he said there should never be a Pantera reunion cuz dimebags dead so it'll never be Pantera this is just a cash grab and it said. They're literally doing what Vinnie Paul asked and said to never be done so he's spinning in his grave dying and Vinnie Paul are probably spinning in their graves right now
@alexsixx50492 жыл бұрын
Dimebag and Vinnie hated Phil until their last minute of life period
@wallyk91882 жыл бұрын
Finally bro your the first fucking guy that gets it 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 NOT A FUCKIN REUNION
@vampirascoffin8702 жыл бұрын
It's a crash grab/reunion and then a tribute to some and Vinnie let's keep it real sorry Pantera 40 year old fanboys
@MRSludgedude2 жыл бұрын
@@vampirascoffin870 yea im not for it but pantera has never Been dethroned as hard as gojira and new death metal bands try.
@johnsimpson89742 жыл бұрын
Its not a Pantera reunion, it's 4 guys playing Pantera songs.
@ps11822 жыл бұрын
As someone who genuinely strongly considers Pantera to be their favorite band ever, I absolutely am against this idea. First off, you can’t replicate Darrels guitar playing or Vinnie’s drumming period. Second off, Phil, as much as I adore his fucking voice, had alot of problems during Panteras fame that resulted in them breaking up. Third off, like you said, Darrel and Vinnie don’t want Phil to be part of Pantera anymore.
@itsalwayssomething74902 жыл бұрын
I agree somewhat. But, it's not up to Dime or Vinnie to say who Pantera is, its beyond them. It belongs to the fans they created with their music. When Damage Plan was formed, it was nowhere close to Pantera, so obviously the magic wasn't just with the brothers. They didn't sound like Pantera, but Pantera wouldn't sound like Pantera without them. The magic was with the 4 collectively. Phil is as much as the sound of Pantera as any of them. And it was when they got him that Pantera took off after years of going nowhere. So, obviously he was key to their success. I think the main problem people are having is how it's being labeled. They have no problem with Phil and Rex playing Pantera songs. But, it's clearly not a reunion. That seems more like the media spinning it to create a buzz, to create controversy for clicks, to created engagement, which it's clearly doing.
@CM-ng9kv2 жыл бұрын
Pantera without Anselmo is just damage plan. Damage plan had nothing special with both Abbott brothers. Phil made pantera a powerhouse, not the hair metal band they initially intended to be.
@ps11822 жыл бұрын
@@CM-ng9kv while Phil Anselmo was a big part of Pantera, you have to remember. Pantera wouldn’t exist without Darrel or Vinnie. They’re the ones that founded Pantera in 1981 and back then Phil wasn’t even the singer. Terry Glaze was. Also Damageplan kicked ass and idc what anyone says
@THMS-bb4zx2 жыл бұрын
You think you are very purist, I saw the news and I was happy because I saw it as a tribute, not as a meeting and it is obvious that dime and vinnie are unmatched and this tribute will be for them
@ps11822 жыл бұрын
@@THMS-bb4zx I never said I was pure. Nobody is pure. I just bother to do my research
@ritualdeathmetal2 жыл бұрын
I don't really think that it's a bad thing. Of course it's not going to be the same as it would be if Dime and Vinnie were alive and participated on the tour but I am happy that they decided to put all this bullshit aside and do it for the fans. If you think about it as a Pantera tribute tour then it's not really something to scoff at. The band could never be as they were in the 90s but at least some of us will have the opportunity to see 2/4 alive members play all these legendary songs after 21 years under the Pantera name.
@dougk3592 жыл бұрын
I've had really mixed feelings about it but ultimately came to the same conclusion you did. Bring it on.
@MovieGuy6662 жыл бұрын
like Vinny said... your selfish.
@Me-fr7yj2 жыл бұрын
Bro get over it. If you look at it as a tribute to Vinnie and Dime then that’s what it is. You’ve got two original members of one of the best metal bands ever alongside one of Dime’s best friends and they’re gonna be playing the songs we love. Some of y’all are never happy.
@AndDeathForAll822 жыл бұрын
1. Phil is not an original member 2. Pantera was Dime and Vinnie. They started the band and named the band before Rex even joined.
@Me-fr7yj2 жыл бұрын
@@AndDeathForAll82 I’m talking about the version of Pantera that anyone cares about. Dime and Vinnie are everything, I have several mutual friends that knew them well. I’m still buying a ticket the second it goes on sale because it’s Phil Anselmo, Rex Brown and Zakk Wylde playing Pantera songs.
@jibrilgoodwin33282 жыл бұрын
Jeez what's next , a Type O Negative Reunion and Peter Steele as a hologram?
@turboturtlehead2 жыл бұрын
That would be better than trying to replace him with someone else.
@HerbertWestward2 жыл бұрын
It's more like a celebration, and not a reunion.
@DeadPixel1105 Жыл бұрын
"Sticky McDicky and the Fuck Bunch" 😂😂
@special_shred2 жыл бұрын
stay home then
@darklight48152 жыл бұрын
man,embrace it...it's a tribute and zakk and charlie would never try to disrespect the legacy of the lost members,everyone knows this...i'd go see em and feel good about it
@superdooperparatrooper69472 жыл бұрын
One would think Zakk should already know what Dime and Vinnie thought about this idea. I've always been a fan of Zakk regardless if it was BLS, Pride and Glory, Book of Shadows etc. but this really makes me wonder wtf he's thinking.
@mindful28642 жыл бұрын
I love Pantera and they were one of the first metal bands I ever got into. With that being said this is a horrible idea. Vinnie and Dime were the heart and soul of Pantera and without them you don't have Pantera. Zakk Wylde is an insanely talented guitarist, but he doesn't have the same style that Dime had. Charlie Benante is a great drummer but he doesn't have the same style as Vinnie does. If this was a tribute to Pantera I wouldn't mind but it shouldn't be called Pantera without the Abbott brothers.
@rightchordleadership2 жыл бұрын
No one is calling it a Pantera reunion except the press. The band has made no announcements so far.
@mindful28642 жыл бұрын
@@rightchordleadership It probably is just the press. Most metal publications are bullshit anyways.
@bigyodatheman2 жыл бұрын
I mean, can we step back a second and just appreciate Phil and Rex for not trying to do this while Vinnie was alive and causing a lot of unneeded anger that would have been dragged out publicly? Or that they actually got the blessings of the Abbott family estate to do this instead of going through a legal battle like so many other bands have? There's a certain level of respect being portrayed here that is largely being ignored and I don't think it's fair to ignore it.
@micuentabasura2 жыл бұрын
They're doing this now when vinnie can't do anything to stop it, that's "the level of respect" here.
@bannedtwice77672 жыл бұрын
@@micuentabasura agreed
@111Moose2 жыл бұрын
@@micuentabasura according to Zakk and Rita, there were discussions of this taking place when Vinnie was still alive. I think his personal grudge with Phil was the only roadblock. Edit: punctuation
@mr.brenman21322 жыл бұрын
@@micuentabasura They are half of the Band. It's exclusively Rex and Phil's band now. They can do what they want. Vinny and Dime were in the wrong as far as I'm concerned.
@grahamashcroft8712 жыл бұрын
@@mr.brenman2132 Vinny and dime were in the wrong ? Explain your hypothesis, did Darrell and vinnie run away from pantera ? Did Darrell and Vinnie stay out of contact with Phil ? Did Darrell say Phil needs to be beaten severely ?
@Phattypimp832 жыл бұрын
This is all so spot on man. This is exactly what I’ve been trying to tell people online. This is not something Vinnie wanted when he was alive..Phil wasn’t even invited to Dimes funeral. This is absolute horse shit
@integrity1012 жыл бұрын
No. You fans destroying the bands legacy because you are caught up in melrose place drama like a bunch of crying teenage girls, is horse shit.
@SteveKaynan2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree!
@integrity1012 жыл бұрын
@@SteveKaynan Think more
@SteveKaynan2 жыл бұрын
@@integrity101 😂
@loganc11582 жыл бұрын
I love Pantera, but this whole thing just rubs me the wrong way
@RafitoOoO2 жыл бұрын
There's tons of Pantera fans who never had the chance to watch them live, unfortunately without Vinnie and Dime this is the closest we can ever get to a full Pantera lineup, I think it's great and the music and legacy from Vinnie and Dime might reach a lot of new fans out there, or fans who are too young to have seen them live. People need to stop hating at everything cool that happens lol.
@bugcatcher89892 жыл бұрын
Never got to see them before and there’s no chance in hell I’m going to miss this opportunity!
@davidlenz7817 Жыл бұрын
Bonnie and dime wanted nothing more to have Phil come back to pantera and make music. Phil turned his back on pantera in there prime. He started a new band. He didn’t even go to dimes funeral. Dime was shot by a fan who thought he broke up the band. Dime was killed because of Phil. Now it’s a money grab and disgraceful!
@brusselslover93332 жыл бұрын
Money (greed) is the root of all evil.
@TERMINATOR-00022 жыл бұрын
This shouldn't happen in the slightest. They should honestly just let it go.
@jasonalvarez69952 жыл бұрын
. They don't have to do this. At the end of the day this is treat for most fans wether you think it's for money or not. Dimebag and Vinnie or not we are still getting the opportunity to see a group of awesome musicians playing music we absolutly love. No one is making you go the shows, but I guarantee many of the people trashing this are still going to be there. If you dont like it then simply just dont attend. This in no way actually means anything to you nor does it affect your life. I'll have more respect for you if you keep that same energy and not attend any of the shows at all. Some of you are thinking too deeply into this. Who gives a shit if the tour isn't labeled the way you want it to be. If it makes you feel better then call it a tribute tour in your own head. You're telling me you will all of a sudden change your mind and attend if it was called a "tribute tour" instead? Lmfao regardless people will still attend these shows in the masses to just simply see an awesome set of musicians playing some kick ass songs. It's as simple as that. Sounds like a fun night to me regardless. Get over yourselves.
@frankmartin99582 жыл бұрын
Phil said Machine Head can Open as long as they don't Play anything from the Wigger Era
@AnAxetoGrind2 жыл бұрын
Lol dude you were like 3 years old when Reinventing The Steel was released 🤣
@lukewise32442 жыл бұрын
If it's a Phil and Rex thing, just call it Pan.
@kevincharles19832 жыл бұрын
Obviously it can never be a reunion. Why are people hating on a few old guys jamming some classics? I'll be there. Absolutely no one can speak on what dime and vinnie would or wouldn't want.
@stantorren4400 Жыл бұрын
Vinnie never wanted to be Phil, he made that VERY fucking clear. Fucking Phil bootlickers
@lukeknutson31912 жыл бұрын
Dimebag and vinnie put people in the seats at pantera concerts. Around 95' fans were getting sick of phils onstage banter but most people went to see Pantera to see those two. Take those two out of the equation... To me its a sour taste in my mouth considering how phil and rex treated the abbott brothers .
@RWalters812 жыл бұрын
Pantera isn't Pantera without Phil. Listen to those early Pre-Phil records sometime.......
@lukeknutson31919 ай бұрын
those early albums are actually pretty damn good.. there is some bogus shit in there too but you are missing out on some killer guitar work. ALSO know that mr. poser anselmo was in several glam bands himself. He needed those guys, like they needed him. It was a mutual understanding. Phil also wouldn't be anywhere without them so stop licking his ass@@RWalters81
@lukeknutson31915 ай бұрын
@@RWalters81 I own them fucktard. He was also in a bunch of glam bands too. Stop acting like he was the main reason they changed their style. THEY were all evolving.. Hell even check out a few songs off their I am the night album..they were starting to add thrashy elements before Phil was even in the picture. So get your mouth off his balls.
@Springfeeeel32 жыл бұрын
I don’t know, I really can’t see why they can’t make a tasteful tribute to the band. People shouldn’t have huge expectations or get too upset over this thing.
@elproducto782 жыл бұрын
God a little dramatic. Dont like it, watch it. There are kids out there that never had the chance to see them so this is there only option/chance
@jimmyroberts95282 жыл бұрын
No,I'm not having any of this. Let the great abbot bros rest in peace with their legacy intact.
@Wargasm542 жыл бұрын
I’m 55 years old. Seen Pantera live a few times and even met them backstage on the FBD tour in 94. Most balls out live show in the history of metal. Pantera were unbelievable in their prime. Nobody wanted Pantera as an opening act because they would get demolished by Pantera. So they went on to headline and that’s where they belonged. I’ve been a big fan of Pantera since phil joined them on Power Metal. I knew they would just continue to get heavier and heavier on each album. Meanwhile, Metallica (who should’ve been flying the metal banner) were cutting their hair and wearing makeup. Pantera was the metal banner bearer during the 90’s and they were untouchable. As far as a “reunion” goes…..well, it’s obvious that’ll never happen. Dime and Vin are gone. So a Pantera reunion is not a real thing. If Phil and Rex want to grab Zakk and Charlie to play some Pantera songs then they have every right to do so. But if they do it under the Pantera name, I don’t know how to feel about that. Maybe call it something else. Like a Pantera album name (far beyond driven ex.) or something. Or Fantera 🤣. I don’t know. It’s kinda sacred to us that we’re there to witness the real Pantera. But I understand it. There are a lot of younger Pantera fans that weren’t even born by the time Dime got killed. And I know they’d love to see a show with live Pantera music. So I get it. Phil and Rex were just as much a part of the band as Dime and Vin. But the Abbott brothers did start the band and Dimes guitar is the Pantera sound. So it’s a tough call. I think they can pull it off if they did it properly. I just don’t know what that “properly “ looks like just yet. Regardless, I’ll go see them with my 17 year old son. He loves Pantera and he’s a guitarist that loves Dimebag. I just wish I could be taking him to see Pantera with Dimebag and Vinnie still in the band. But that will never happen. So I’ll have to be happy to see Phil, Rex, Zack and Charlie playing some of the most badass music ever written. I just hope they do Dime and Big Vin justice in the end. Pantera forever!!!FTW👊🏻🤘🏻
@ms.ellenlevy56672 жыл бұрын
I saw pantera in there prime as well. I actually am pretty stoked to go. I want to hear and see that music live at least once more in my life. I think they should call it a tribute show rather than a reunion . 🤘
@spellman007 Жыл бұрын
A sell out is when you go out and play your own songs…
@mylerwilson4879 Жыл бұрын
By profiting off your dead band mates and haven’t been in the band for 20 years
@trevorburns2 жыл бұрын
The only things I hate about this tour is that it's promoted as a reunion and not a Tribute Tour and I agree call it a band name close to Pantera but not Pantera. And if they decide to make music call it something completely different out of respect for Vinnie and Dime.
@MrCamel2humps2 жыл бұрын
Fantera
@jasonalvarez69952 жыл бұрын
They don't have to do this. At the end of the day this is treat for most fans. Dimebag and Vinnie or not we are still getting the opportunity to see a group of awesome musicians playing music we absolutly love. No one is making you go the shows, but I guarantee many of the people trashing this are still going to be there. If you don't like it then simply don't attend any of the shows. Simple. This in no way affects your life. I'll have more respect for you if you keep that same energy and not attend any of the shows at all. Some of you are thinking too deeply into this. Who gives a shit if the tour isn't labeled the way you want it to be. If it makes you feel better then call it a tribute tour in your own head. You're telling me you will all of a sudden change your mind and attend if it was called a "tribute tour" instead? Lmfao regardless people will still attend these shows in the masses to just simply see an awesome set of musicians playing some kick ass songs. It's as simple as that. Sounds like a fun night to me regardless. Get over yourselves.
@trevorburns2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonalvarez6995 Don't get me wrong bro if I have the opportunity to see this I'm going too. I'm just saying if they made these certain changes people might not be soo uptight about it you know. I want to hear Flood Pt. 1 and Pt. 2 just like everyone else 😁🤘🏾.
@johndoderino26092 жыл бұрын
It hasn't been promoted as anything yet, basically it's just media calling it a reunion with no official statements from the parties involved
@theakkusor2 жыл бұрын
The only...only... ONLY thing I'm concerned about is holy fucking shit zakk PLEASE show some restraint on the pinch harmonics for fucks sake..
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
we all know he wont lmao
@l.salisbury12532 жыл бұрын
Remember the early UK punk band The Ruts? ("Babylon's burning") When their lead singer Malcome Owen ODed the surviving members continued as RUTS DC ("Ruts De Capo"). Recently they released a kickass reunion album under that altered moniker ("Music Must Destroy").
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't, but I'll check it out! Always in the mood for some gnarly punk tunes.
@CodyTyler942 жыл бұрын
Phil and Rex are both credited songwriters on pretty much the entire Pantera catalog. They have just as much right to be ‘Pantera’ as Vinnie and Dime.
@ObviouslyKieran2 жыл бұрын
Even with Phil and Rex it's just not the same without at least one of the brothers involved.
@petesaguy17072 жыл бұрын
How much of Pantera is Terry Glaze entitled to?
@MLCrow2 жыл бұрын
@@petesaguy1707 They should invite him too and play Pantera's early glam metal songs. I'm joking...but this is how Pantera did start. So it's important too.
@MLCrow2 жыл бұрын
@@petesaguy1707 ...if he's still alive ofc.
@unicronsaber42682 жыл бұрын
@@ObviouslyKieran What a crock of shit. Even non metal bands GNR and Limp Bizkit continued with just the vocalist.
@Nameless_Bastard2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a reunion! That is impossible. It will be a tribute tour. Which is the next best thing. Let’s all just appreciate this thing for what it is, and celebrate dime and Vinny, and the legacy of Pantera.
@dougk3592 жыл бұрын
Yep, the media is calling it a reunion but the fans know better.
@sole__doubt7 ай бұрын
All of what you said would be true if they werent calling the band Pantera. Thats why the media, and everyone else, is calling it a reunion.
@jackcoleman17842 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize Metal Meltdown isn't an Anthrax fan.
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
Hell nahh, Anthrax slaps
@jackcoleman17842 жыл бұрын
@@themetalmeltdownofficial I'm really just teasing that you pronounced Benantes last name wrong ^_^. Loved the video and I agree it's a terrible idea.
@sole__doubt7 ай бұрын
Ive never seen a more obvious cash grab.
@jays.19652 жыл бұрын
This is a tribute that's all, I see a lot adult man crying about this . I am going to the knotfest 2023 in December to see this tribute.
@stantorren4400 Жыл бұрын
You’re not seeing tribute, the Abbott brothers are gone and Vinnie didn’t want to anything with Phil after Dimebag died for a reason. If it was a real tribute, this would not have happened in the first place as Phil turned his back on Pantera before they broke up
@shaunclifford792 жыл бұрын
Great video..The fact that now they have released this trailer on Dimes Birthday I find highly disrespectful. This is a cash grab the only way they know pure and simple - orchestrated by Phil, Rex & Rita which will also be used to push the new "Dime Guitars" and if Vincent was still alive this would never ever happen.
@superglou913gomez3 Жыл бұрын
It's a cash grab for sure. Rita sues Dean and now this? I'm guessing the Pantera legacy wasn't providing the comfy lifestye that Rita got accustomed to. Vinnie was adamantly against any kind of "reunion". Saying that you're doing this to honor him is straight bullshit.
@Jeff.3 Жыл бұрын
@@superglou913gomez3and Vinnie was also holding onto grudges for far to long, dude acted like it was phils fault dime died, Vinnie wouldn't even attempt to contact Phil despite Phil's attempts. I love and respect Vinnie but he was way to salty when it came to Phil
@CRAD_3332 жыл бұрын
This “tour” should’ve happened 6 years ago with Vinnie and Phil making amends. And at lease it would be 3/4ths of Pantera.
@ElliYeetYT2 жыл бұрын
Love Pantera but Phil, you have Down, you have the Illegals, a Pantera reunion is unnecessary without it’s core founders. So please don’t. Just let Pantera stay as it is. Yes, I’m aware you want to keep Dimebag and Vinnie’s legacy alive, Yes You’ve made peace with Rex, yes you finally were allowed to head to a funeral for one of your former friends (Vinnie) and yes you’ve survived the impossible. But a reunion for Pantera just won’t work. Unless you decide to get Terry Glaze back on rhythm guitar but that would be confusing as shit lol. If you still want to bring back Pantera, Name it something else like “Pantera: The Next Generation” at least, I mean Sublime knew that they had to change to “Sublime with Rome” when they reformed, and Thin Lizzy had to change to “Black Star Riders” when they reformed. So yeah Phil, please don’t. (Ironically, he’s trying to reunite a band where there are no original members left now.)
@darrelladams48862 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that they’re doing this under the pantera name. If vinnie were still alive and participating in this with zakk on guitar playing tribute to his friend dimebag it would be better recieved. But in this circumstance it feels like a cash grab for Phil and Rex. They would be better served calling themselves the cowboys from hell or something. Not pantera
@rightchordleadership2 жыл бұрын
We don’t know that…yet. Keep in mind that only the press has referred to this as a Pantera reunion so far. The actual band has said nothing.
@josephwiacek81232 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder if the original line up would have reunited after Covid. So many bands did. I was in high school when ‘Far Beyond’ came out and already was a huge fan. Phil destroyed his life and relationships with his hardcore addiction issues. I met Vinnie at a CD signing while he was in Hell Yea- awesome guy. Pantera has this raw unmatched power in their prime. Nothing at the time even came close. They pretty much carried the torch for metal all through the 90s. It’s a shame how everything ended for them.
@TobikunOuO2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Paul and Phil hated each other.
@MovieGuy6662 жыл бұрын
Vinny went to the grave despising Phil.
@The-AMG32 жыл бұрын
Halftera is what we’ll be seeing in 2023
@l.salisbury12532 жыл бұрын
Plus remember Phil was NOT an original member!
@kapitanleutnantschneider20762 жыл бұрын
Yeah this so-called reunion is a hard no for me
@lupehn2 жыл бұрын
It’s actually a good idea. Phil is sounding phenomenal and Rex is all for it! So WALK ON HOME BOY!
@jcmoore58192 жыл бұрын
If Dime and Vinnie were here, I fully think by now they would have reconciled. I also fully think that Pantera would have gotten back together. It would have took Dime to convince Vinnie. Dime would have been the one to reach out first I think.
@owl5092 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I could be wrong but I heard that Dimebag wanted to go back to Pantera in late 2004 but the unfortunate ending happened before anything was confirmed
@grahamashcroft8712 жыл бұрын
@@owl509 you're right, it was confirmed by Bobby tongs in an interview and Rita.
@UnderWorldOfDarkness2 жыл бұрын
Actually, this guy is a tool. Both Dime and Vinnie said that if Phil got himself together they would reunite. Phil kept making promises to deliver and then Phil would ghost them, not return calls, etc. Their issue with Phil was mostly professional and not so much personal. This guy literally said Phil and Rex did not "define" Pantera. What an idiot. Damage Plan would've taken off if that were true. If there was never a Phil Anselmo, there never would've been a Pantera. At the end of the day, no matter how talented the guitar player and the drummer are, without the right singer ...you go nowhere. I agree with you. Had Dime and Vinnie ever became convinced Phil wanted to get back with them and keep it real ...they would've been all for it. Like I said before, Dimebag said a year or so before he was murdered.
@UnderWorldOfDarkness2 жыл бұрын
@@owl509 You're right? He did. I saw the interview. Phil sold them out. Phil was ghosting them on all their plans to get together. Dimebag said if Phil ever got serious about starting Pantera up again, he would do it. Vinnie said the same thing, only Vinnie was more adamant about Phil showing them something 1st before committing. Have you ever been in a band. I have, few people understand how frustrating it is for bandmembers to not always be showing for practice, business appointments, press, and all the rest. Even for parties. No shows for parties is a downer. For at least 2 years Phil kept making plans to reunite with Pantera and then would cancel, without even telling them. Phil wouldn't even return calls to let them know he was bailing. So yeah, business wise they were pissed at Phil. This guy is tool. he doesn't know WTF he's talking about. He doesn't even know what the estate is. The estate are the surviving family and business partners and not the deceased persons. He stated Dimebag's girlfriend patched things up with Phil in complete contradiction to his statements that the estate would not approve.. I saw the clip where she gave her blessings on the reunion. If Phil released a statement that the estate approved of it, then it's true. PROOF: The moniker "Pantera" is owned by the Estate. The Abbot brothers own it ...therefore the estate owns the moniker Pantera. Phil cannot do a tour as "Pantera" unless the estate gave him permission. Like I said before, this vlogger has no idea what he's talking about. A complete waste of internet 1's and 0's No one from Vinnie's estate has commented, yet this douche is talking in 1st person like he knows these people personally. I'm from Louisiana. I know many of the people in all those sludge metal bands around Pantera. I know the soundman that was working the show the night Dimebag got murdered. Both Phil and Zakk are alcoholics. They get themselves together and put something out that is top notch ...the 2023 tour will be a hit. One last thing. Why do you think they're announcing so early? My guess is they're working on new material and I'm predicting the tour will be supporting a new album. Fuko this douche ....he doesn't have a clue. ..
@colonelhstinkmeaner85472 жыл бұрын
If Vinnie was still alive he wouldn't because of the bs Phil said about Dime on that interview.
@thegrimmfluencer2 жыл бұрын
Who's Charlie Bennett? Why are you putting it all on Phillip, when Rex is doing it too. If anyone is "selling out" then it isn't just Phillip. For the record I agree that this isn't a good idea and not having a go at you, just puzzled that you are only calling Phillip the sell out when surely Rex is also guilty of "selling out"....
@joeln9012 жыл бұрын
No Dime, no Pantera. I'm sure others have said it too. Just call it something else.
@GTR0NLY2 жыл бұрын
Phil an Rex said it was a tribute but all the media said Pantera tour loll
@nelsonshuchmacherendebo76882 жыл бұрын
Simply put, this is the correct take, Robert. It’s a nostalgia cash grab trip. I’m not opposed to this lineup touring and celebrating Pantera’s legacy (because humans are complicated and it’s legit for Rex and especially Phil to seek redemption, to think through his relationship with his fallen comrades), but using the name Pantera and calling it a reunion is just dishonorable and wrong. Vinnie’s take on the reunion was always 100% right.
@dougk3592 жыл бұрын
No fans are referring to it as a reunion, only the media. We know a reunion is not possible.
@UnderWorldOfDarkness2 жыл бұрын
You also don't know what an "Estate" is. It's not the deceased parties. It's the surviving members. In your own statements you said Phil and Dimebag's girlfriend repaired their relationship. So how can you say Dimebag's estate would not agree to this. You did not mention one person from Vinnie's estate who are still living. You're not very bright are you?
@boneheded28192 жыл бұрын
It's a money grab and it won't get a Dime from me..... no pun intended.
@BeardyRedViking2 жыл бұрын
Nail on the head. Could not POSSIBLY agree more. Massive cashgrab, plain as can be. The Abbott brothers must be turning in their graves.
@danzemacabre88992 жыл бұрын
In the bigger picture, with all things considered like recessions and wars and pandemics etc. This isn't anything to freak out over.its entertainment . They picked very competent people with close ties to the Abbott brothers.. I've heard of a lot of worse ideas for sure like that Motley Crue disaster. The one thing you can certainly count on is Charlie and Zakk giving 110% and not showing up to just get paid.
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
I've no doubt Charlie and Zakk will give their all (hell they're liking the best part of this whole thing), but the whole still feels disingenuous and gross. I'll concede I'd rather see this than Motley Crue right now lmao, definitive trainwreck band.
@danzemacabre88992 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Colvard if you're into watching wrecks , yeah. So in a way you're right lol
@danzemacabre88992 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Colvard😭....sounds like some damn country lyrics. " Ive been cryin' away on the internet, ive been mopin and whining all night long. But it won't be me who will by a concert ticket to see a band who can't finish one damn song."
@maxl35702 жыл бұрын
take a shot every time he says fuck
@bluenothing_6662 жыл бұрын
He could at least call it "Pantera A.D." like Entombed/Entombed A.D.
@Dorotheeslutman99862 жыл бұрын
I've seen Phil since he quit drinking and he sounds good my ex wanted to see Devildriver, and they were with Superjoint, if Phil sounds like he did at that show it should be good, the thing I like is that Charlie and Zakk were Dime's best friends, but I completely understand wanting them to change the name, for fuck sake they already have Cowboys From Hell logos and art they could totally be that and you could throw Pantera around all over their shit without just saying they're Pantera.
@Chris-js7lw2 жыл бұрын
From someone who was there thanks for illuminating this miserable cash grab
@bugcatcher89892 жыл бұрын
Come on as someone who never got to see them originally I’m grateful for the opportunity to see the surviving members with the blessings of the Abbott family! I’m stoked to hear some awesome metal and see some live music again!
@orgiesofsadism47442 жыл бұрын
Why not dude Pantera kicks ass
@mylerwilson4879 Жыл бұрын
Dimebad and Vinnie are dead, those brothers are what made Pantera
@orgiesofsadism4744 Жыл бұрын
@@mylerwilson4879 no shit, huh?
@moogman52 жыл бұрын
If it's going to be a tribute or a celebration, then don't charge for admission...Make it a real tribute/festival/celebration and do it for free and donate to the surviving Abbott family members.
@LiberationFrequency2 жыл бұрын
If it doesn’t have Dimebag or Vinnie Paul, it’s a fucking tribute band
@mulletover35752 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait. Loved every member of Pantera, but they sucked pre Phil. Even CFH was semi-weak. Once you admit that you can let go and enjoy the show.
@grahamashcroft8712 жыл бұрын
CFH was one of their best albums hands down. It had more of the thrash riffs as opposed to slow groovy riffs far better than reinventing and trendkill. First 3 were the best.
@JMdrumz712 жыл бұрын
Maiden, Priest, Slayer even Metallica...those are legacy bands. Pantera is not.
@crapenter33922 жыл бұрын
What else they got? I think there just trying to cash in as much they can!! For me pantera is Phil, dime,Rex and vinnie ! I’m a fan of Wylde, but he’s cashed in on dimes dime since he passed! This isn’t for me, pantera for me will never be again unfortunately, even hearing phill now sing some of there old stuff, just doesn’t do it. Pantera died with the abotts! While it was all four of them, they together made pantera! I won’t be spending any money to see the reunion, might spend the time to watch when available on KZbin! Just my opinion, my thoughts, not even worth it’s weight in shit! I’m fortune enough to have seen both pantera and damageplan, and grateful! I’ll keep playing pantera and damageplan every damn day till I die!
@brrblack4972 жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone thinks of anything. We get to see a bunch of our favorite old school Metal dudes get together and play some of their fallen friends' songs. When did Metal heads become such a pack of whiners? Have we resorted to Raps,' New Country and Pops level of immaturity? Remember we're stoic Metal heads, we don't cry and bitch about every little thing.
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
Implying metal was ever mature lmao
@brrblack4972 жыл бұрын
@@themetalmeltdownofficial lmfao so true.
@keepthemetalflowing2 жыл бұрын
BTW, got caught up with all this but you made a great video and some EXCELLENT points. Thanks for posting.
@Jeff.3 Жыл бұрын
Im sorry but phil is just as important as vinnie and dime to pantera. Without Phil, pantera wouldn't have been nearly as big. Remember how they were just another glam band back before phil was their singer?
@stantorren4400 Жыл бұрын
But it’s not his band and Vinnie wanted to do nothing with Phil after his brother got killed. Why do you think he was banned from Dimebag’s funeral?
@TranzparentMethods2 жыл бұрын
Fact is, this is a karaoke kind of thing. Zakk Wylde, love him, but he isn't as gritty as Dime was, and Charlie is no Dave Lombardo, Charlie can't switch styles as much. He for SURE, doesn't have the power Vinnie had. I honestly can't believe this is actually happening... When Vinnie passed, so did Pantera.
@danzemacabre88992 жыл бұрын
Baad take Charlie kicks ass, the actual drummers I know and play with would vehemently disagree with your take . Heard Charlie kill the Rush stuff? This will be no prob for him .and I'm a Lombardo fan too and he's every bit as talented , Dave probably have no pro lem telling you that himself and the proofs I the material and harpies been killing it for decades.
@srobbins19732 жыл бұрын
I wish we could move on from these bands whose most important members are deceased. Let them rest in peace.
@Wargasm542 жыл бұрын
That doesn’t make much sense. Cliff Burton was killed and Metallica did pretty good. Bon Scott of AC/DC died and everyone thought they were done. Yet the put out their biggest album of all time with Back in Black. It’s all a matter of perspective. Would I rather see Dimebag and Vinnie alive and still in Pantera? Yeah, of course. But that’s not gonna happen. I was lucky enough to catch Pantera live in the 90’s. Even had backstage passes for the 94 show in Nashville. Still have my shirt signed by Dimebag, Phil and Rex. Good times. I understand what you’re saying. But if there’s an audience, the show will go on. I just hope they don’t trample on the legacy of Pantera. And with this lineup, there’s a decent chance they’ll kick ass. Only time will tell. All those dudes are getting pretty old (myself included) So if they get up on stage and loiter like old guys, it’ll be pretty lame. If they bring the heat, then I think it’ll work. Definitely a gamble.
@c.f.pedraza40572 жыл бұрын
@@Wargasm54 yeah but the way Phil and Rex left Pantera, it just leaves alot of people who are on the Abbott brothers side pretty disappointed. They made the name, and started the band. It just looks like a massive cash grab.
@reynutz2 жыл бұрын
Important historically? Yes. Not everyone is that sentimental lol. In 2022 most little kids learn Pantera songs pretty early on because of how, easy they are. Solos included. So I doubt Zakk fucking Wylde would somehow betray Dimes easy af riffs.
@Wargasm542 жыл бұрын
@@reynutz yeah, let’s see you post a video of your rendition of Domination by Pantera . Maybe then your opinion will carry an ounce of credibility.
@c.f.pedraza40572 жыл бұрын
@@reynutz it's still a little kid cash grab tribute.
@ChuckChuckGoof2 жыл бұрын
Correction: Dimebag Darrell passed away in 2004, not 2003.
@jrpggolf2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Phil and Rex should take a page from The Grateful Dead’s playbook. They have continued to exist in various incarnations since Jerry passed (I’m not even talking about without original line up thing); none of them, however, have used the branding of The Grateful Dead proper.
@c.f.pedraza40572 жыл бұрын
I heard that Rex and Phil signed a contract to do this about 24 hours ago and insanely thought, "PAYCHECK." I don't agree with any of it. Especially how Phil and Rex left the Abbott brother's hanging. The way Phil acted on stage with them, the way he believed he could make a new band better than Pantera. It's been 20 years and yes, there probably is an audience. But this is a cash grab tribute. There is no integrity in this, no character, and the obviousness that Phil and Rex aren't doing as good without the Abbott brother's is blatantly obvious. I'd honestly prefer to see Phil and Rex reunite with Down, before any sort of Pantera bit.
@Joelvete62 жыл бұрын
It's all about money. Too bad so many metal fans are so incredibly impressionable and easy to buy...
@manicmurph2 жыл бұрын
I think if dime and Vinnie can see this they will make it so the tour doesn't do good but I know a lot of young fans want to see "Pantera". Even though it's only 2 guys. The estates only are doing it for the cash. It just looks bad in the big scheme. Like Phil and Rex have the power now that Vince is dead so they're going to try and capitalize on it. I'll probably still go and see it if it comes here but I'm not fully for it either. And I hate how all the younger fans like that rock news feed guy gets all giddy over this. Like bro, you'll be seeing Phil and Rex, not Pantera. Phil and Rex should just get down going again and tour on that. Phil had always been selfish and probably resented Vince for not forgiving him. It is very disrespectful. This is sad.
@agialoukia2 жыл бұрын
Look mate the brothers weren't angels, they were the ones who initially brought substance abuse to the band, and anyway REX is a hero he deserves that. Likewise, we all had buddies like Anselmo, which we still have to tolerate.
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
Not arguing that Vinnie and Dimebag were angels, simply stating that Anselmo's issues and controversies were gradually creating a rift between him and the rest of Pantera.
@heyhonpuds2 жыл бұрын
Especially considering the tragedy of Dimebag. It could be as terrible as those two songs the remaining Beatles “reinterpreted” 14 years after Lennon’s death.
@juliusbushiv29042 жыл бұрын
Yea. Right. With Zakk 😂
@jayumanen44842 жыл бұрын
I'm fcuking happy they playing pantera again
@riccomatias2 жыл бұрын
To all of you complaining and whining about the reunion. This is a Pantera tribute, to honor the brothers memory. If the media is labeling it as a Pantera concert don't take it as that. If you listen to Down's last concert, Phil dedicates the song Lifer to both brothers. All of you saying "it's not Pantera", no shit it's not and it's not meant to be that. Be glad that the fans who never got the chance to see one of the best metal bands who ever existed will be able to at least hear their songs played by two of their members. Also, this reunion has Rita's approval which is Dime's longtime girlfriend and I think her opinion means more than some of you out there. Celebrate the brothers memory and legacy instead of bitching and complaining. RIP Dime & Vinny and long live Pantera.
@superdooperparatrooper69472 жыл бұрын
Yeah Rita needs.$$$ now that the deal.with Dean isn't gonna happen. She's just a dependapotomas that's trying to leach off of the memory of her dead bf.
@bradenjohn26717 ай бұрын
Totally agreed The wishes of the Abbot Brothers were very clear These idiot fanboys in the comments sections selfishly wish to go against the wishes of Vinnie Paul, and in doing so, disrespect Dimebag Darrell I did not go to their shows in 2023 and I don’t plan to go period
@suckit50922 жыл бұрын
When Pantera broke up, I’m sure Dime and Vinnie could have retained the rights to the name and continued with a new singer and bassist. They didn’t though, that would have been a low class move because the band wouldn’t have been complete. Instead they started a whole new thing even though Pantera was their thing since the beginning. The fact that Rex and Phil are doing this is really making me lose all respect for them. At this point it’s only a name, there is no Pantera without the brothers, so this is nothing more than a transparent cash grab. There’s always gonna be fools who will buy tickets for something like this but I think they’re gonna end up pissing off a lot of longtime fans. It was bad enough that Phil’s band was covering all the Pantera tunes with a guitarist that was playing dress up as Dime, absolute cringe.
@PacifistNihilist2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the breakout video on the reunion, I was more like”…huh…” more than “oh my god finally!” because of the simple fact of their is no Dimebag or Vinnie. The Zakk Wyld thing has been in the air for many years of potential players and with that coming to fruition doesn’t surprise me. A part of me would like to see this but i do think it is disgusting if they keep the Pantera moniker. I get it Phil and Rex are part of the Pantera band but just like you stated with Joy Division and New Order bands, they should make it more of a supergroup tribute Pantera band like “Cowboys from Hell” or anything. Idk I’m not behind this really. Also hearing Phil singing nowadays is just horrible. Can’t imagine the his Illegals vocal singing Cemetary Gates or Cowboys from Hell.
@JustMB-sg2pv Жыл бұрын
Opinions are like assholes and everyone has them. I think this is a great thing. It's a great thing for the people who don't complain about everything and take it as it comes. There's a reason why we never seen or heard a bunch of whiny pussies back in the 90's but hey it's going on whether anyone likes it or not but hey at least you all have something new to bitch about.
@bridgetgidget14462 жыл бұрын
I agree this is stupid idea. Call it something else. Phil is doing it for the cash.
@jjperera33893 ай бұрын
Knuckledust, a uk band, can’t think of anyone else who still has the original line up
@pudd66 Жыл бұрын
"People are selfish and want what they want..." That pretty much sums up this whole Pantera mess quite well, doesn't it? People will justify anything out of selfishness, greed or their own self-interest.
@WintJames2 жыл бұрын
If Dime & Vinny were alive hell yeah but they're not so a big phat HELL NO.
@scale81252 жыл бұрын
I'm a zoomer, so it's a great idea! I love Pantera, there's none of the hurt of the death of Dime as I was still in pampers when it happened (although I wish he was still alive just the same). If the vocalist is still alive and willing, I'd love to see a live show of Pantera songs. There are tons of drummers/guitarists that love Pantera and try to match the level of quality that the brothers had achieved, could always just get those guys involved and run the show. Kind of like the Queen biopic using a Queen tribute band/Marc Martel to produce a similar sound to Freddie Mercury. Phil Anselmo is as much Pantera as the brothers were.
@Count_Deangeli2 жыл бұрын
Don't agree with that, it may take away some of the legend but there's demand for it, Rex and Phil want to do it, why not?
@davidgoldstone48612 жыл бұрын
Why cant everyone just shut up and have a good time. Stop with the drama. Life is short.
@harvesterofstorms49322 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that somewhere out there is a Pantera tribute band who sound incredible and will continue to be obscure.
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I used to hate cover/tribute bands but honestly some of 'em are rad. Love the ones that put their own spin on the material like Mac Sabbath.
@dope_shark56322 жыл бұрын
If you think this is a cash grab and you think this is a bad idea stay home. Don’t go. The true fans will actually be there. There will be a time when Rex and Phil are not alive anymore and we won’t have this chance. Why can’t people see that they are trying to do a tribute to the Abbots?
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
Because if they REALLY wanted to do a tribute to the Abbotts, they probably would've done so already. They wouldn't need to relaunch Pantera for that. Plain and simple.
@TheDastardlyDipshits2 жыл бұрын
Again... why not just add Rexx and Zakk to the Illegals and call themselves "Illegal Domination"
@themetalmeltdownofficial2 жыл бұрын
Because then they can't fully cash in on Pantera's name lmao
@theprisonmetaller70052 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Pantera fan, but there's no way I want this to happen. No Abbot = No Pantera. Plus I find that disrespectful on what Phil was doing.
@jasonalvarez69952 жыл бұрын
You'll still go.
@tad__2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone is seeing the light on this! The Pantera of 92-96 is what people loved. People loved the lean, crazy shaved head Phil. Not the black-metal death-growl dumpster junkhead Phil. Certainly not the white wine drinking Phil. Sorry if you were born in 2002, but that Phil we saw in the early 90s is long gone. What we are witnessing is a heartless bilk of the young and gullible fans out there. One last payday before Phil and Rex retire to Florida to play golf all damn day. What a way to go out. Giving people a pseudo-band hodgepodge at 90 bucks a throw. A New Level, indeed.
@Carl-jl9ib2 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself
@petesaguy17072 жыл бұрын
Terry Glaze feeling left out lol
@metalmadnessreviews2 жыл бұрын
I never realized that Pantera had such a dreadful history. I knew about Dimebag's murder but I never realized what transpired before and after the fact.