The Path No One Chooses For CHINA - UNIFY Peacefully 😩

[@FeedbackGaming]

Taiwan?

[@RobraphAlternate]

Taiwan B)

[@Fake_Dozer]

West Taiwan.

[@ryan9336]

-9999 social credit score Super Idol的笑容🌕都没你的甜. 🌙八月正午的阳光. 💫都没你耀眼. ⭐️热爱 105 °C的你. 🌟滴滴清纯的蒸馏水. ✨

[@canberranproductions2802]

Taiwan = Real China Seethe commies

[@Gaming_Burnout]

Украина.

[@hongyuzhu235]

A bit of history in China: In the few years after the Qing Dynasty falls, Republic of China adopted universal suffrage, but apprarently didn't work well. The industry base was still very weak, plus an unstable central government and a divided country. The election didn't manage to sustain for long. Local warlords only built their own railway systems, which is basically what you see in the game.

[@maxchioa7822]

"didn't work well" aka the elected temporary president forced a rigged election, then proceeded to crown himself emperor.

[@hongyuzhu235]

@@maxchioa7822 right. and at that time most Chinese people had no idea about election, the hereditary monarchy has lasted thousand years after all. This is a background reason why our first president thought being an emperor might be a good idea. There were books and newspapers introducing these western ideas, but majority of the population cannot read.

[@minmean3016]

@@DadaduduxD 太认真了点，何必在意，改变的机会千千万，铁打的饭碗世世传

[@motleyzadot6867]

@@DadaduduxD I completely disagree, Mao was a psychopath in comparison. Mao 100% did not shy away from mass death. Chiang Kai Shek was also brutal but simply calling him power hungry for the sake of wealth makes no sense, the man was clearly a nationalist and this is shown through his desire to reunify China at great risk for pretty much his entire life. The Chinese people are indebted to Chiang for the next 10,000 years for his contribution towards the War of Resistance and Republican period like the great generals of old.

[@motleyzadot6867]

@@DadaduduxD I do not subscribe to Chiang slander :P

[@MrNicoJac]

15:27 You shouldn't garrison the coast line, but you _can_ garrison *only* the ports! That way, the Japanese _do_ land, but they cannot get supply, and become pretty easy to take out. (you *do* need to keep an eye on it, and have enough defenses to not-lose any of the ports tho)

[@buddermonger2000]

Since no step back they tend to land land with a half army and they land next to the port as well (also somehow seem to not suffer from fucking supply mechanics) so if you guard only the ports you lose

[@ertrick3693]

An issue with using garrison orders in any capacity is if there are any enemy units in the states you give defense orders for, a good chunk of the units on the order will move away from their ports to fight those enemies. Meaning every time a naval invasion happens, divisions will get pulled off the ports that aren't getting attacked to fight off the enemy invasions, which could leave openings. The defense AI does do a *decent* job of pushing invasions back to the sea, but it's always better to micro and not rely on garrison orders. It's best to let them pull off multiple naval invasions and hold some land (not too much, though, you don't want to give them a solid foothold) because they'll stretch themselves incredibly thin that way and their armies will be even easier to crush than if you didn't let them take ports.

[@stonedtowel]

This is how I managed to get the Allies down 3mil. I love getting rid of their best troops and equipment before doing any naval invading myself. Personally I just set specific orders with C instead of V cheesing the coast line as my A.I tends to show more A then I when I have defend orders on.

[@anomaly0039]

@@ertrick3693 just use fallback lines bruh

[@ertrick3693]

@@anomaly0039 Yeah, that's what people were comparing garrison orders to, lmao

[@sakshamrai1803]

This is my kind of thing, I want to see more Democratic challenges like this.

[@keisari9151]

Yeah, like maybe forming the EU?

[@koppi9278]

@@keisari9151 Taureor did a video where he formed the eu as democratic germany

[@keisari9151]

@@koppi9278 yea, I know but it would be interesting to watch feedback do it.

[@timh6792]

Okay Soyboy

[@Tom-oj7si]

Bad taste

[@SerMeneros]

I love how everyone bitches of Chinas railroads in this game, when those rivers work as tier 1 railroad in the beginning.

[@uploade1019]

💨

[@mses0012]

fun fact: I don't know if anyone cares, but he actually speaks xibei san ma wrong. You say c be not c bai. Xi in chinese means west and bei means north. San means three and Ma is a last name in Chinese. So Xibei San Ma literally means three dudes have last name of Ma living in north west of China. Btw shan means mountain so Shanxi means the west of the mountain. Sin means new and kiang means territory so sinkiang means the new territory.

[@kaikearns8548]

Pretty Cool. Found it interesting

[@pubcollize]

Isn't Xi pronounced Shi?

[@matthewwong944]

@@pubcollize no. Chinese pronunciation is different than English. You kind of pronounce xi like “she”.

[@pubcollize]

@@matthewwong944 well OP said the "xi" in "xibei" is pronounced "see"

[@musAKulture]

at this point it's a meme...of 3 years now.

[@frezer93]

Love it. Never have the time to go down the niche focus trees. But love watching a video about it to see if I miss out on anything

[@DondesTalecarne]

Hey, this is my kind of thing. Seeing the lesser-used focus trees and strategies is interesting and how new metas are found. Keep doing things.

[@FeedbackGaming]

:)

[@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329]

@@FeedbackGaming I agree. Please keep doing stuff.

[@blackjannik9458]

I was just chilling on my phone when youtube screamed at me Democratic China from Feedbackgaming and of course I clicked instantly

[@lubiehleb7750]

Me too

[@crowbarviking3890]

Also, you can cheese the supply system as china even more. There are a lot of rivers and they count as railroads. strategically placing supply hubs at riverbanks can save you a lot of railway building. AND rivers can not be logistic-bombed themselves. Though granted, unless you do some bad moves this will not be necessary. Still, using rivers as railways is an overlooked feature.

[@RK-cj4oc]

I did not know this. As what level railroad do they function tho?

[@Sleepy_Panda_xd]

@@RK-cj4oc as the level 1

[@Shadow-Pe8]

If you want even more core attack you can stack the 100 regiments offensive along with the other 5 and 20% the focuses give you

[@crowbarviking3890]

Do NOT garrison the coastline, only the harbours with 2 divisions each. Let them land, contain them and roflstomp them when they run out of supplies.

[@chengzhou8711]

That’s a really good strategy

[@andreikovacs3476]

I advise the opposite: Garrison the coastline and micro so that only the ports hold, that they take the empty land. It's better than not garrisoning because if you are focusing on the north, they won't interrupt you as easily and have you to divert forces needlessly. Also they don't do damage to your buildings and disrupt your industry.

[@davidbascom5781]

If you play in china again I believe I have found a way to exploit the AI. The Japanese AI seems to be hard coded to do two things: launch a massive naval invasion at the beginning of the war, and redirect troops to that naval invasion if it seems to be going well. However, Japan doesn't have that many divisions early game. That means that if you give up northern china at the Marco polo bridge incident, Japan will not have enough troops to both man the boarder and launch a naval invasion, but they do it anyway. At this point you can have more than enough army's to cover the front and I have been able to push Japan out insanely fast bc there is like one troop per tile. Sometimes they even pull troops out of the north to reinforce a naval invasion which makes it even easier. Just give them the land. They don't have the divisions to defend it. I've done this twice as normal china and it works really well but idk if it works as other China's

[@disappointedmess209]

i gotta give this a try next time i play as china

[@davidbascom5781]

@@disappointedmess209 possible important note is I did use the extra time to take out commie china and a few warloards which gave me a long boarder. Idk if that will effect your game but just so you know

[@dapygor9339]

I remembered that one Sun Tzu's quote that says something like "You should give up territory and save men, because if you lose men the territory will soon be lost anyway, and if you save men, you can take the land back"

[@stevepirie8130]

@@dapygor9339 think Mao said it in the in game quotes but perhaps he was quoting Sun Tzu himself.

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

I liked the idea of this path but I find its execution lacking. You cannot form the People's Republic of China, and you don't turn yellow and just become "China", you just became an inflated Communist China, stuck. It's a minor dumb aesthetic change, I know, but it gives some feeling of accomplishment, at least to me. Like you've done something other than become a bigger blob on the map.

[@FeedbackGaming]

True. Only mao can form PRC

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

@@FeedbackGaming Well, Mao and the pro Soviet path

[@azk9218]

Which is stupid as hell. If not PRC, then you should be able to form some other named goverment. Democratic Republic of China for example - as you play as "social-democracy" or something that gives you some boosts.

[@gamerito100]

@@azk9218 I mean, the kind of countries that have "Democratic" and that kind of things on their names aren't usually democracies, so it kind of makes sense why they wouldn't use that or PRC xD

[@gachanimestudios8348]

Well, since I'm making a HOI4 Game with a Left KMT I guess I should take note.

[@fahad_hassan_92]

Amazing video, was looking for a No Step Back Guide for Communist China for a long time

[@paint1005]

14:04 hahahaha naughty naughty mufti malm

[@MisterKackhaufen]

12:40 well it makes sense Spies tend to go to big cities where decisions are made instead of of rural areas/villages. Geographic intel isnt hard to get and often not the most important.

[@damiank8838]

2:19 might be one of the best references you've done so far

[@AmpdVodka]

I choose this option ALL the time. If you play it right, you can effecively annex China with 0 fighting, get their whole army and subjugate the warlords and have time to spare for preparation before Japan attacks. Plus, my guy has the best beard!

[@snelhestarna]

Honestly that is one magnificent beard. Also my Nordic heart just soars with the idea of a social democratic China against Imperial Japan.

[@tredbobek]

11:37 they are connected through a river, no? There is that blue line, which I think is equal to level 1 railroad

[@NoName-yo7ux]

Remind of that very old thing where you could give up all your land to other country and then play as them. Unified chjna is January 1936.

[@JamesL42]

You still can

[@bestsynth4102]

Hey Feedback! Chinese guy here. Anyway, here's some unneeded translations + pronunciations for your perusal: At 2:40, Xibei San Ma (西北三马, lit. "Three Mas in the Northwest") is pronounced "see-bay san ma". The "Beard Man" at 1:56 is Zhang Lan (张澜), a member of the Chinese Democratic League. Chiang Kai-Shek (蒋介石, Jiang Jieshi in Mandarin) is mostly correct. "Chiang" is either Cantonese or Taiwanese Standard, I forgot. For Mandarin, it's "[jee keep it short]ang jee[eh] sh[ir, more emphasis on i]". Gaah, Chinese pronunciation is so hard to explain! At roughly 10:50, Yunnan (云南, lit: "south of the clouds"), is mostly correct. At 13:18 - Sinkiang (新疆, lit: "new boundary", aka "East Turkestan" or "Uyghurstan") is pronounced "seen jiang" in Mandarin. Let the world know I tried. I _will_ be salty about the "Permit Opium Trade" focus. _Reeeee opium doomed the Chinese people_.jpeg Also Based TNO Long Yun NPA path???//? Good work mate!

[@flameoguy]

What's a Ma?

[@bestsynth4102]

@@flameoguy“Ma” refers to the warlord family in charge. It’s their surnames. Sorry for not clarifying!

[@gladys2563]

You're from Taiwan or real china???

[@fryboi4896]

@@gladys2563 China is west Taiwan

[@jefffoley3586]

China is super fun this patch with the new supply system!

[@russiasgreatestspinmachine4096]

hell*

[@karlfinke7254]

This is my kind of thing, I really want to see you do the awesome paths that don't lead to achievements so I don't have to play 6 hours playing them and getting annoyed by the AI and bugs without even an achievement as a light at the end of the tunnel👌

[@Mustang-wt1se]

One thing about naval invasions. The air will attempt them regardless of what you have on your coast. So when they attack retreat the attacked units not on ports and immediately destroy them

[@xeanderman6688]

I actually do that path, because the only bad thing about it is the PP, otherwise you're really strong

[@samuelvozar1937]

and you cant declare peoples republic

[@tijolodarevolucao]

h Nq

[@aidenbooksmith2351]

it doesn't even give you stability like greater Hungary. it's fine. ​@@samuelvozar1937

[@michaeljehan9951]

Certified BING CHILLING moment

[@knpark2025]

16:45 "opium is god" -fbg

[@lubiehleb7750]

Love ur videos

[@FeedbackGaming]

[@imamage]

Dave your social credit would be -99999999 now ......

[@FeedbackGaming]

I'm playing golf

[@imamage]

I guess YT flag the title , now it shows Unify China instead .....

[@AModerateChinese]

NO，because he unified PRC and ROC,he should have+999999999

[@psychzach1588]

I just did this the other day and it shocked me how easy it was.

[@lastfirst8886]

Hey Dave, really enjoyed the background music. It’s groovy.

[@chunkynumber3436]

I prefer to do the democratic stuff, not cause it's always rewarding, but because I like to think the (admittedly not existent) people down there live better lives

[@americancommunist6076]

well liberals love to be delusional

[@kapitanbach7411]

@@americancommunist6076 Says the American tankie...

[@americancommunist6076]

@@kapitanbach7411 I know, I can't believe I became smart when I was born a fucking american lol

[@alexanderraz.]

Larp

[@chunkynumber3436]

@@americancommunist6076 :(

[@Marcella_Parker]

I think you are the best hoi 4 youtuber I have found in years of playing this game, keep up the great work 💕

[@itzjompe6747]

9:05 ogs remember cheating the monroe doctrine when playing in america

[@nodishtoodeep3053]

Man I love this game, it’s got so much alternative content, so much to do and it’s so rewarding when you do something right. It’s one of my favorites even though I’m probably the worst player out there.

[@russiasgreatestspinmachine4096]

Hey! This is my kind of thing.

[@mglsj]

IIRC ISP did go down the same path as Communist Shanxi.

[@Gharib_570]

Man ,I do love you ❤️🙌,keep making us happy 💙

[@ronin1915]

00:23 Loved the SW meme

[@libextremist]

As an Asian social democrat. This is my exact kind of thing.

[@craigdoran7873]

Because of the rivers you have pretty decent supply when not in the north.

[@sandstorm9305]

That ending what a jumpscare

[@Scar626]

0:37 - Tsk, . . Man, hey! They where testing it out; to see whether or not they could build it . .

[@yoanawramow8809]

The legend has appeared

[@aze4934]

I love this type of videos! Huge fan!

[@jursh3936]

“How dare you” xD

[@niktheseamonkey]

This is my kind of video! I love seeing the less beaten paths

[@x3cion]

I had alot of success defend lining the port + 2 adjacent coast tiles, exhausting landings next to and onto the ports enough to crush them. Also it's good to have separate defending templates if you can afford them and a little special force to get back the port if a landing happened.

[@SherlockHolmes78676]

An Abu Layth meme 😂 "YOU NOTY NAUGHTY U TEASING ME"

[@Rasler63]

Really liked your new approach to play those rare focus trees.

[@realhawaii5o]

This is the path I always chose. I don't see why one wouldn't do this one.

[@happy06810]

But why don't you garison the port ? Keeping them out of suplies once they have landed

[@somerandompersonidk2272]

Because it's likely then that the Japanese units will just encircle the port and destroy the division there which in turn means that you ultimately lose a division or more in the long run

[@somerandompersonidk2272]

@@TheToby121 You forget, the Japanese navy exists and they will go ham if they get the chance. Especially pre pacific war.

[@codewaterairsoftandmore1050]

great video I dig stuff like this keep it up :)

[@hyperactive1728]

Hey, this is my kind of thing!

[@ausnorman8050]

Pssst, love the thumbnails ;)

[@wilsontheknight]

Yes not garrisoning your coastline can be beneficial to destroy Japanese units. However you get the same effect by allowing them to solely land on provinces without a port and guarding your ports. The AI doesn’t just naval invade ports, it invaded around them as well. In my play through I garrisoned each port and had two reserve armies to crush the Japanese when they landed around the port. Allowing them to take a port is simply asking them to bring more troops in. By the time I invaded Japan they had less than 18 divisions. So to anyone who thinks letting them take a port is ok, it’s not. You risk more by doing that, you risk a hell of a lot less by letting them land on other provinces. You gain the same advantage both ways.

[@FeedbackGaming]

Not worth the risk

[@berbrick1902]

I went down the focus that he said no one ever goes down the day before he posted this video

[@bigbenhgy]

Do you still get the inflation that the normal China has, with no way of dealing with or did they fixed that?

[@FeedbackGaming]

Nope no inflation

[@jeffhask367]

Star Wars meme = instant like

[@gregaciousgracieux8939]

I can’t tell if I want to, or if I’m even capable of learning this game this well Awesome video, great game

[@michaelcarafelly2048]

Can you do a anarchist Spain walkthrough?

[@FeedbackGaming]

Sure

[@potatoeking6339]

Eyy… this is my kind of thing!

[@TheSeriousCat]

Hey! This is my kind of thing !

[@wheelman1324]

It’s a lot easier in in Crusader Kings 3. Just have a bigger and better army than everyone else and make them an offer they can’t refuse.

[@greenmanchannel2858]

20:33 U forgot hong kong Social credit cart -12000000000000000000000000000000

[@arkadiuszrenc1498]

I actually mostly do this Path while playing PRC

[@rosscalverley]

General Secretariat… their leader is the General Secretary so you are giving more power to that role.

[@reganyoung4806]

AY! This is my kinda thing!

[@rogerolle4906]

Hey! This is my kind of thing

[@superfranky8054]

Hey this is my kind of thing!

[@stonedtowel]

Is this HOI4 with feedbackfaming? We like it. Personally you could do Germany for the 100x and we’d still chime in and watch you. It’s always good shit.

[@chrisstevens2944]

"hey, this is my kind of thing!"

[@JIopemUncym]

You should never ask China about the Tiananmen Square and FBG about the manpower losses in this video.

[@kianocallaghan5788]

Let's goo Dave

[@kaiserepsilon4011]

(Japan launches naval invasion) (Invasion force makes landfall after losing 98% of its force composition) (China recaptures ports immediately) (35 Japanese divisions die in the mountains) Japan: "I'll fucking do it again."

[@CZiNTrPT]

this is my kind if jam. hopefully a chance to learn and not only cheese

[@Bluesonofman]

Can you give us tips on how to use Mages in the Youjo Senki Redux Mod? Because that mod is based around them but they give negative organization so it's hard to figure out how to use these glass canons.

[@croatianspy6047]

Gone reduced to atoms

[@holydumpling228]

Hey,this my kind of thing!

[@therealBosnianBallPlayz]

Fact: The original name of this video is renamed. Title was: “Can you unify China peacefully” as I remember

[@shawnchang328]

If so, that could be a somewhat controversial title. XD

[@cnnpp4428]

Watching this is better than a tutorial!

[@zaph8015]

1:22 "Yunnan" 🤨

[@kgapaneseschoolgirlb]

I do wonder how many of these would still be viable against either a smarter A.I. or during a multiplayer game? Because some of these seem very good, but only work against the A.I. being flawed, and would be terrible against human players, especially if they’re playing meta

[@RK-cj4oc]

That is a good thing. I would hate it if i hadd to play my best every time for the few hours i can play after work at night.

[@FeedbackGaming]

None of them

[@kgapaneseschoolgirlb]

@@FeedbackGaming Idk, I’ve seen some of the nation strats you’ve done in some online sessions…Just gotta bank on player incompetence somehow being worse than the A.I.s

[@alphaundpinsel2431]

When I play China, I just build WW1 era guns and spam a shit ton of shitty divisions and for some reason it always works

[@dryhad9253]

Hey! This is my kind of thing! Some other nice underrated focus branches you might want to do are Democratic Germany and Orleanist France.

[@GenGariczek]

Lol, the railroads are connected by a river. Hey, this is my kinda thing.

[@jovanhardianto4658]

I heard you can do demand Slovakia and demand Transylvania early if you go fascist king as Hungary

[@mobilegeeks236]

You change your supply capital by clicking the little star in supply menu

[@ศิวกรเยาว์นุ่น]

Please play Bhutan with China.

[@fipeke]

is it a bad idea to remove all of ur ports so that when u get naval invaded they are on low supply?

[@GloriousEagle69]

whu wouldnt u use area defense to defend all coastal tiles or port and get entrenchment there? also 75-% naval invade

[@II_Cyn_II1]

What you mean no one picked Social Democracy I did it once

[@pampham27]

please when you read a letter "I" written for any Asian language read it as "Short I sound like 'i'f or 'i'mport also letter "G" like 'G'reece or 'g'as never read the letter G like 'g'eography or 'G'eor'g'ia PLEEEEEEAEAAEAEAASE Alphabet is not made for English only

[@neso_003]

I didn't got it, what's the problem now?

[@pampham27]

@@neso_003 the way he pronounce 2:41 Xibei San Ma

[@neso_003]

Cool so it's "Xi" the "i" like "important"

[@neso_003]

Which country are you from?

[@pampham27]

@@neso_003 yes exactly

[@doombaneable]

Fantastic idea here

[@ConmanCAM]

this is my kind of thing

[@sebping7205]

16:56 Ah yes: The communist chinese army official called "Otto Braun", and he is even one from the old guard :D

[@nox5555]

Its a bit strange because the dude was in his 30s...

[@CommanderFlyboy]

Aye! This is my kinda thing.

[@awmeration-animationsandar5285]

I didn’t even know voting in states existed in hoi4

[@SJ-xb7lg]

Hey this is my kinda thing!