The Penguin Is a Masterclass on Narcissism

[@ValaritasYT]

Do you think Oz Cobb is a narcissist?

[@TheEolian]

You convinced me.

[@esrasimge8351]

no doubt

[@UltimateLarper]

Definitely

[@Okkotsu86275]

It was so obvious that he was a narcissist. I'm kind of shocked that it's even a discussion.

[@sad-lb4vr]

Definitely.

[@BlancheDP]

You really have to credit the writers for not chickening out at the end there. From the beginning I thought Oz would kill Vic in an act of self interest. But by the end, right up until I saw the look on Oz's face when he went "fuuuuckkk" in that last scene, I thought they weren't going to go for the True Villain moment. I went from cheering him on to wishing Batman would kick his ass in less than a second.

[@eastsidereviews727]

I need an Arkham series style beat down of Oz in the next movie.

[@lol-yz3qu]

nah I stopped rooting for him the moment we get to know he killed his own two brothers

[@BOBimusRex]

Good catch. I like that story beat title, too. Villain Moment. Kinda like the opposite of the "save the cat" hero trope. I was making the argument just the other day that the right way to do a good Venom movie would be to start with a good "kill the cat" moment. From now on, I'll use the term Villain Moment. Start with Eddy Brock being a real POS. Then show him get WORSE with the symbiote, until something finally snaps him out of it, and makes him fight AGAINST his inner demons, in a struggle for redemption. Venom is a former villain turned anti-hero. So his real arc is one of redemption. An arc that should be played out like Tony Soprano, slowly coming to moral maturity, but leaving you questioning if they can ever make up for the bad things they've done.

[@BOBimusRex]

​@@lol-yz3qu What a heartbreaking moment in the story. What a freaking psycho.... Just wow...

[@MROJPC]

The look of on his face after he finishes killing Vic is chilling, and calling his girlfriend, Eve, "ma" as his own mother is in a vegetated state in the same penthouse suite...

[@Gojeto346]

I’m so fucking glad they didn’t try to make him misunderstood or an antihero, they almost play on that modern trope by like having you expect him to be those things by the end. Then you find out, nah he’s actually always been evil down to his core. He is a villain. Fantastic.

[@AndreFlickUS]

This show is definitely my favourite adaptation of the Penguin, as you said he's a textbook example of a vulnerable narcissist and this makes him more human, rather than a classical villain. Plus, Colin Farrell was an amazing choice to play him.

[@sebsebseb1905]

how would he had been if he was a grandiose narcissist?

[@paulamarques6077]

​@@sebsebseb1905Less outwardly self loathing and more grandiose

[@rottensquid]

Nice one! I think what made the show so distinctive isn't simply that it's about a sociopath, but that it played a game with us, asking us at every turn if we believed Oz cared about anyone but himself, letting us fool ourselves despite all we're witnessing, before finally slamming home the undeniable truth. It did what narcissists do, exploited our tendency to see good in people even when it's not there, to use repeatability to win us over before turning on us, to spin such a web of lies that we don't even know what he believes to be the truth anymore, if anything.

[@nettewilson5926]

Damn that was a good analysis. For me the ending was a gut punch…but as they sat down on the bench and began to talk, I thought “oh no…” so yeah all the clues were there but I didn’t want to see them

[@UltimateLarper]

You're describing anti social personality disorder ie sociopathy. Not narcissism

[@kainlives7958]

No, he’s a psychopath. He cares about nobody truly except himself, lacks guilt, empathy and remorse and was born a selfish manipulative predator

[@rottensquid]

@@kainlives7958 Yes, of course he's a psychopath. That's not the point I was making. What I'm saying is that this show dangled the slim possibility that Oz wasn't a psychopath until the very end. It let us fool ourselves into seeing empathy in the character that was never actually there. It wasn't just a show, it was a lesson in how to spot a psychopath, and how we fool ourselves into believing his obvious lies.

[@ThetrisBlack-q6p]

This is one of the most accurate analysis about the Penguin I've ever see. Truly amazing video brother, keep them coming!

[@ValaritasYT]

More to come, thank you!

[@ORivers-qm5tq]

​@ValaritasYT I recommend you watch the Vile Eye video on the penguin. He's a KZbinr who covers villains.

[@TonyNewman-n9z]

What a brilliant performance by Colin Farrell. I didn't think he could top his performance from "The North Water" but he did.

[@birdo1180]

The opening scene was absolutely perfect. Oz's dream props him up as a good guy in the neighborhood that everyone respects and loves for the good things he does. It makes the audience just hesitant enough to believe he might be a good guy with good aspirations. Yeah he kills the Falcone, but there is enough there for the audience to think "maybe underneath the bad there's good." And throughout the series we slowly peel away that there is no good. He's an absolutely terrible monster. .

[@BingoLumpkin-u4v]

After that scene I had high hopes for the show. But I must admit, it wasn’t that good. I know people will probably bite my head off for saying it, but the writing was weak and the show was grossly overrated. I also thought his infatuation with his Mother since he was a child and wanting her affection so badly it led to him killing his siblings was very strange and made the character seem like he had a literal Oedipus complex. I mean, they gave us the impression that he wanted to marry his Mother and it made the character look like a creep. Just not very good. Sorry not sorry. 5 outta 10.

[@fgtsiroeht2562]

@@BingoLumpkin-u4vmaybe you’re sheltered and that’s kind of a good thing ignorance is bliss but unfortunately people like him exist, real families like his exist. Narcissism isn’t entirely bred most is upbringing. It’s not weird most children look up and put their parents on a pedestal and it’s up to the parents to teach them how to have healthy connections with the world and people around them. Children in a vacuum can be shockingly selfish, jealous, and “narcissistic” but his mother failed him. Narcissists are those children that never grew up and live in a “me me me” world boiled down they are incredibly underdeveloped and immature. Emotional incest and improper parenting definitely didn’t help his case either.

[@morgoth4962]

Honestly, Oswald Cobb has felt like a blank slate for some time. His original backstory (that old-money aristocrat who turned to crime after losing his wealth to maintain his lifestyle) lost its resonance with audiences back in 70s. These days, he's caught between two extremes: the "monster raised by sewer penguins" and the "ruthless nobody who clawed his way to the top of the mafia through sheer willpower." and I think the writers did an excellent job leaning into the latter. Thanks for the video!

[@iconodule3938]

I’m sorry…sewer penguins? Like literally?

[@CuteKiller313]

@@iconodule3938 well killer croc's gotta eat something down there

[@joeyjo-joshabadu9636]

​@@iconodule3938Tim Burton's Batman Returns

[@iconodule3938]

@ wowee 😂

[@fgtsiroeht2562]

He didn’t even do it by willpower that’s the thing with narcissists they actually have weak willpower. Oz is literally chained to his weakness of have to satiate a hunger with things he knows or doesn’t know will never fulfill it. He knows that he and others will “stop at nothing to cover that feeling up”. within himself he will always be a prisoner choosing to destroy himself, protecting a figment reality and in that he will never find peace. It’s desperation. Begging is not willpower. Manipulation is not intelligence. That’s what makes him and people like him so dangerous, the how they can dispose and how their desperation controls them

[@jeremyrivera7079]

I watched sopranos right before penguin and to be honest penguin/Oswald is basically tony soprano in the batman universe

[@Saveyourbs]

🤔

[@ComradeHugo]

not even close, tony is quite humane and able to feel empaty

[@saulspanco854]

​@@ComradeHugoTony is lsowly revealed to be more and more heartless and evil before the end of the series. The majority of the horrible things that happen to him or his family/friends are caused by his own greed and ego being challenged. He is a complete narcisisstic psychopath who is vulnerable like Penguin.

[@ComradeHugo]

​@@saulspanco854 nope, not even close to Penguin level and definitly not psychopath people over use such terms too much

[@ernestor5440]

Nah, not even close completely different characters

[@poe-hi3fs]

This is how video essays should be done

[@nettewilson5926]

I loved the commentary about the social injustices embodied in this series. The main characters who had the most morality-Vic and Sofia-were swimming with sharks, but did their best to survive and maintain their morality. But in the end, in such a system, only psychopaths survive.

[@godsendballer6594]

Great analysis - I agree with nearly everything you said. However, I would argue that Oswald Cobb fits the profile of a psychopath rather than just a narcissist (though he certainly exhibits narcissistic traits). Here’s why: - A 'mere' narcissist would likely be more emotionally affected by being crippled as a child - brooding, sulking, or erupting in rage. But Cobb seems unphased - Instead of wallowing in self-pity, he thrives, fully embracing his charm and self-confidence. - Remorselessly killing his own brothers in a calculated bid to monopolize his mother’s love. Not a flicker of guilt or hesitation. This goes beyond narcissistic envy into something far colder. - As an adult (and even as a child), his manipulation skills are second to none. He doesn't just command respect - he orchestrates entire power shifts, charming and coercing underworld leaders to follow him. It’s one thing to seek admiration (a narcissist’s goal), but it’s another to strategically control people as pawns in a larger plan. To me, this all points to psychopathy - where charm, callousness, and strategic manipulation come together. Narcissism alone doesn't fully explain his ability to stay so calm, ruthless, and effective.

[@fgtsiroeht2562]

Except he is bothered by people mentioning his state especially when they say “the penguin” unphased also does not mean unbothered. Rage can be hidden that’s what makes narcissists dangerous. How can they lure someone if they’re outright pissy, rageful, and bad all the time? Also all psychopaths are narcissists but not all narcissists are psychopaths. And believe it or not everything you list here are narcissistic traits. Manipulation used as a measure for intelligence isn’t accurate look at real life psychos in jail or not, they’re not really smart because they can’t put down their ego. They can be smart but their is always that limit. What they are is survivalist, it’s like they have a corrupt form of creativity how they get by and survive. they know how to play people because they understand the darker sides and desires of things. How people work but only when they are just as bad as them, here is that projection people talk about. They play people gambling that they choose bad like they do and they justify bad things how they do. But when people don’t behave that way, choose good or see empathy and nuance, they either dispose of them or it’s like they hit a brick wall and have no where else to go with them as their whole world view collapses.

[@KhalkedonYT]

Great video overall, but I think this 7:44 is the most chilling and original observation I've heard on this show. I never even thought of it that way. Amazing.

[@y.michelleelam3771]

Great video, very insightful! When I watched The Penguin, I recognized the narcissism because I had an old boss very similar. I would have been the Victor if I continued to stick around.

[@rhaegartargaryen9315]

This channel is just waiting to explode with more subs, it’s only a matter of time.

[@arturzinurov2146]

THANK YOU, sooo many people talk about how Oz has oedipus complex etc etc but they ignore the fact that her words had no affect on him he didn't skip a beat after his own mother called him a failure to his face and stabbed him and he didn't kill her not because he couldn't we just saw him kill Vic who he viewed as family and his own brothers without a second thought but because HE needed to have put his mother in the penthouse suite HE needed to have the ability to say "I grew up poor and now I put MY mother in the penthouse".

[@fgtsiroeht2562]

Thank you you see it too! It was all self interest. What he wanted then goes and projects it into his mom “it’s what you always wanted ma”. his poor mom was crying because she never got her wish fulfilled of dying if she ever became one of “those” and probably also crying because she is just being reminded of how selfish and narcissistic her pos son is but hey I say she raised him that way. I guess in a way the enabler got some justice served now if only we can get Batman to serve some justice to the penguin lol

[@arturzinurov2146]

@@fgtsiroeht2562 Idk if I can blame his mom for this, cause she didn't raise him he was just born a psycho narcissist what she did is try to use that so 1 she doesn't lose ALL her sons and try to get something out of a monster like that.

[@Okkotsu86275]

As someone who consumes multiple versions of these comic characters, I knew from the jump that The Penguin is a brutal, self-serving, and narcissistic criminal mastermind, who would step on anybody to get what he wants. That why the upset and shocked reaction to Vic's death was so entertaining to me, I knew Oz would kill the kid by episode 2. It was... inevitable. This series was phenomenal, Colin Farrell and Cristin Milioti killed it.

[@rottensquid]

I mean, we all should have known. But we have soft hearts. I thought the show would want to convey that there's is some kind of escape from this world. Turns out, it had other fish to fry.

[@nettewilson5926]

Why by episode 2

[@Okkotsu86275]

@@nettewilson5926 Just a feeling a had

[@nettewilson5926]

@@Okkotsu86275 something must have clued you in. I honestly didn’t know until they started talking on the bench. I was like oh no….no…NOOOOO!!!!

[@Okkotsu86275]

@nettewilson5926 It was the junkyard scene, Oz was ready to pop Vic with no remorse or hesitation until he saw a use for him.

[@maedre1759]

the best tv show in 2024, and the best analysis of that tv show!

[@user-baev]

While I agree on most points, I also disagree on some. 1. Oz definitely hurt by Victor's death. Him killing Victor is not easy at all. He almost kills part of himself there, alters his personality towards his vision. His brain is fixed on a goal and the first person he punishes, controls and force - is himself. He is his own creation, same as with his brothers, he felt something, the need to help, worry, but he forced that part to stay silent. I believe, in the end of The Penguin saga we will see that part of his personality emerge in some way and it will be Oscar worthy moment for Colin. 2. Sofia is no less evil than Oz. Killing that poor kid was nothing to her. While Oz at least acknowledges people, Sofia just looks at them like flies. For her they are nothing, she never puts them into "human" category. And she has some obsession with herself as Oz. And that Arkham excuse - it justifies nothing of her actions. If her father would not be such an imbecile, she would overcome his cruelty many times over, because she doesn't even understand that those "lesser human-like" animals have feelings or personalities. 3. Let's ask - who are real villains here? Who are people whio created Oz and Sofia in the first place? It is Gotham's rulers and ultra-rich who keep power in their hands. The Penguin shows it exactly - no matter where it is - if there is a mafia and crime organizations - it is always tied to city leaders. There is no mafia without it. And Batman and his parents as one of the richest people in city - are direct contributers and benefitters of mafia and crime. He can fight criminals with his bare hands how much he wants, but in the end it is he and his parents who create it. Anyway, great essay. Made me took more minutes than I watched it to write a comment))

[@fgtsiroeht2562]

Great points but oz being hurt by his death doesn’t make him less of a narcissist. Narcissists are human and get hurt too the difference is how they act since they are very immature and emotionally deregulated. And him killing oz I wouldn’t say would be him killing himself since his “self” that would be there to kill is already gone. It would be more to reaffirm his world view. Narcissists have a fragile grasp on reality yet fight brutally to uphold it hence what happens like victors death. He views caring as a weakness and I think victor bringing up family brought attention to Penguins own attachment and feelings of victor “as family” and thus had to be snuffed out. Although I think Sofia is ruthless she’s not a narcissist. Don’t get me wrong she could become one and her actions have started to lead down that path but at the end she was ready to stop playing the game. Narcissists need the game so for her to leave it behind says a lot. She was almost becoming more vigilante at the end. Bad actions don’t make narcissists, it’s the psyche and inner world they live in that does. The inner workings of Sofia are not narcissistic she is a misguided and damaged individual with severe trust issues. She operates more off self protection and a skewed view of justice, while Oz operates more off entitlement and self interest.

[@syren4731]

In extreme cases of narcissism, there is often over-lap between the different types but what you're describing sounds more like a combination of grandiose narcissism and perhaps malignant rather than vulnerable narcissism. It's very likely that you perceived Oswald as vulnerable, because of his victimized state but likely, Oswald does not see himself that way at all. Rather, he's very aware of how he's perceived by the outside world, and he uses the _insight_ from being over-looked to relate to the others, to foster kinship with them and then to mobilize them to do the things he wants them to do. What he struggles to do is make the outside world conform to his self-perception. Oswald doesn't resent the elite, he feels entitled to what they have, he wants to BE elite. And that reeks of grandiose narcissism. The fact that Oswald lost his temper and shot the man who insulted his dream is indicative of this. Vulnerable narcissism are actually a subset of covert narcissism. They aren't just people who were victims at some point in their lives, they are the people who, for whatever reason, have become attached to their *_state_* of victimhood. They are the empathy hijackers . They manipulate people by making you feel sorry for them and most of the time, vulnerable narcs in particular can seem like very pure-hearted or self-sacrificing people. They usually tell you, about all the ways they have been wronged and hurt in the past, and everything they tell you may indeed be true, but while it may seem as if they are opening up to you, this isn't an act of trust. Rather, they are trying to inspire deep loyalty and devotion in other people. What happens is that, they hold you accountable for the way other people have mistreated them and you may get caught in a situation where you are always trying to prove that you aren't be like the bad people that hurt them. The great empathy you feel for how they have suffered could also hold you hostage in the relationship because you may not want to leave. In some cases, vulnerable narcs also the kind of people who threaten self-harm or engage in self-harm behaviors to get you to do exactly what they want you to do or to make sure that you don't leave. Here's the thing though, vulnerable narcs often ensnare people from the extreme ends of the spectrum, either the very best of people who are very empathetic and compassionate with a strong sense of justice or the worse as in angry, violent and abusive. The sad truth is that there are some people who never leave abusive relationships, no matter what resources are available to them or the amount of social support they do have. And if, on the off-chance they do leave, they might get themselves into another abusive relation & another & so on & so forth. They never break the cycle. It sounds grim but it happens. These people are also vulnerable narcissists because for whatever reason, their psyche has gotten stuck in the painful cycle of re-traumatization of childhood wounding. Their identity never developed past the point of these experiences and they engage in behaviors that perpetuate it. As I mentioned earlier though, vulnerable narcissism is a subset of covert narcissism. The same way vulnerable narcs can seem very innocent, pure-hearted and self-sacrificing, coverts give the appearance of virtue. They seem like exceptionally good people on the outside. In some cases, even saint-like. They may be involved in a lot of humanitarian work or involved in religion. All their validation & adulation ("fuel") comes from the praise associated with altruism. They're still abusive, they still exhibit all the behaviors of narcissists - gaslighting, emotional-control and manipulation - but it might be more subtle. It may also be harder to parse or take longer to recognize. These people may over-work the people who volunteer in foundations, they may embezzle money from the charities they work in, that sort of thing. That's why I don't think that Oswald is a vulnerable narcissist, he may have been victimized, he may have been a victim at some point but that is sounds like he doesn't see himself that way, it sounds like his mother gave him a false self-image and despite his experiences he never let that go off it and instead, it twisted his self-perception. I haven't watched the show though. I'm working with the information presented in this video. I might make a different, more informed opinion if I watch the show in full. He could just be a psychopath - all the traits of a narcissist with the added bonus of being impulsive and violent.

[@UltimateLarper]

How is malignant narcissism different from grandiose

[@syren4731]

@@UltimateLarper Grandiose narcissists are especially preoccupied with wealth, power & social status associated with wealth. A real-life example of this is perhaps the Kardashians who are not only wealthy but are obsessed with showing off their wealth in the most ostentatious way. Grandiose narcissists exhibit obsessive behavior when it comes to luxury, appearances and aestheticism. They're attached to it. They often succeed in becoming wealthy but they do it in very unethical ways. Malignant narcissists are very dangerous people. They are the people who break the law or commit truly heinous acts. A malignant narcissist may not necessarily be obsessed with wealth but of like Oswald, they are, they have no qualms about killing for it, lying, stealing, cheating and manipulating others to get it. In the real world, this might look like corporate espionage. Also, in real life, when a malignant narcissist has chosen a victim, it's usually like a fly caught in spider's web. They will do anything to exert power and control over that person. Their methods, however, are criminal or very clearly abusive. They might be involved in black-mail or stalking. They will go through your phone records, try to control who you can/can't talk to, isolate you from family and friends. I would say that when it boils down to it, they rely most coercion, fear and violence. Once you get to know them, they, of all the types are the easiest to spot but the only problem is that to the outside world, they often present as exceptionally charming, charismatic people. If you come across this type and they have hurt you, you will need concrete evidence in order to be believed. So to sum up, I would say malignant narcs are criminally dangerous in ways that grandiose narcs aren't.

[@BatAmerica]

Great video. An excellent example of Oz's narcissism is on the street. The flashback shows that Oswald was always self-centered. Unlike his older brother, who sympathizes with his mother's challenging circumstances, Oz focuses more on the allure of money.

[@AgentN-s5u]

I love how this show doesn’t shy away from the fact that Oz is evil and psychotic but does it in a way that feels real. We have seen narcissists like him many times in our own life in many shapes and forms, but they ultimately only care about themselves and their well being. It’s impossible to have sympathy for him unlike the Joker from the Joker film or Thanos.

[@billyalarie929]

This breakdown is brilliant, I think you’re dead on. Not to mention, I have a physical disability and I’ve been trying to write a story about it, without being on the nose. This video might’ve just gotten me closer than ever.

[@guilhermepontescoelho4933]

This video essay is just perfect. Congratulations! Loved it.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content ❤❤❤❤

[@ValaritasYT]

Thank you so much!

[@ronrice1931]

Good analysis. I kept forgetting it was about The Penguin and thinking it was about my old man. And me, to a lesser extent. :)

[@nadimulislamtonoy9604]

Oz is like Griffith willing to climb body for achieving goal.

[@rtInHeaven]

Yes. Exactly. Exact same psychological make-up

[@nuttbaked]

That's an interesting comparison 🤔

[@janold0808]

This is the best video on the penguin I've seen!! Great job, I love your creative voice!

[@nenirouvelliv]

He definitely was a narcissist, not a sociopath like Carmine. He craves for people's admiration and his Mother's acceptance and love. He's like the monstrous version of George Costanza, constantly lying to himself so he can think he's the good guy.

[@breezus3928]

Great video! I see so many ascribe empathy to Oz and then figuring that it was a misguided practicality that won out for him when he betrayed people or left them for dead. You rightly noted that he does not have true empathy; those he "loves" are actually conceptualized in his brain as TOOLS. THAT is the reason why he can dispose of them or of their wishes so easily.

[@Ax-xN]

It’s sad because the only reason Colin Farrell won’t get an Oscar for this is because it’s a comic book character plus it’s a show I still hope he wins the. Best

[@ayoa1173]

Two actors have won Oscars for playing the Joker. Batman the animated series won an Emmy in 1993. Superheroes, as a genre, are not the obstacle you think it is.

[@bigpictureguys8415]

“Plus it’s a show” 😂

[@jppayton4086]

He’s getting the Emmy for sure

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

AMAZING SHOW 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@mawnki8037]

High quality video. You def are doing everything right to be noticed by the algo

[@murilohumbertocmcb]

best video about the character

[@Skaajk]

Best video I've seen on the series. Great work.

[@CarsonG-hq3mq]

Great video and the show was amazing!

[@joseluis5055]

This show is good food for whoever loves villainous protagonists, especially considering how rarely it's done right. Oz is a ruthless monster that still feels like a three-dimensional character

[@jigsaw1181]

Damn bruv. Your analysis and critique of Oswald Cobblepot is powerful, & borderline clinical. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@toasterpastries5811]

*I watched episode 8 first and when I found out that Ozwald killed his brothers, I assumed that his brothers were cruel and would gang up and bully little Oz. Then when I watched the whole show, I learned his brothers were really good guys and that Oz was always a heartless monster without empathy.*

[@bigserbman5962]

Name of the music in the background?

[@oneofakind9995]

So..he is a self improvement bro mafia edition XD

[@GattoriSancho]

Oz isnt a narcicist he is a Penguin.

[@sad-lb4vr]

My favorite series. I’m so glad you analyzed this 🥹🥹

[@frankalbergo8120]

Excellent, thanks.

[@p_clove]

The cruelty he exhibits to keep his mother on life support when she begged him to promise she wouldn't become a mindless vegetable was so painful to watch.

[@PVRGE7]

Oz is truly probably one of the most twisted and demented villains ever. I want to point out a few things that made me realize how evil he is. After Salvatore had a heart attack in front of him he went onto feed his delusion and needed a reminder to feel superior continuously yelling about how he beat him and then goes onto fire multiple bullets into his dead body. Two, he truly didn't give a fuck about his mother losing a pinky because he did not want to admit that he killed his brothers and went onto manipulate her saying that her illness is getting the best of her. Three, he killed Victor for his own selfish desire to be at the top by himself. After everything the kid did for him and stayed committed to being loyal to Oz he still killed him. For a moment when he said "fuck", part of him probably didn't want to do it, but he felt like he had to which is wildly selfish. After he killed Victor i hated him completely. Four, the most depressing and most irritating thing that really got to me was the fact that he chose to keep his mother alive in a vegetative state so he can get satisfaction out of her seeing him be at the top. She had tears falling from her eyes and all he could think of is that she is "proud of him" and fed his delusion that she was so happy for him. Truly sick and it was sad to see her like that! Then to top it all off he has the girl that he loves pretending to be his mother so she can feed his delusion even further. His mom wasn't crying because she was happy for him. She was crying because in her mind she completely realized how evil her son truly is and he'd rather keep her alive to suffer instead of putting her out of her misery....Btw im happy i saw that bat signal in the sky at the end. That man got a surprise coming. Can't wait until Batman sends him to the shadow realm 😂

[@garyjenkins7249]

Finally. A true villain. It’s been awhile since Dark Knight

[@omamchy]

It is so peculiar how people like to determine and tag everything and everyone with such things like “narcissism” or “adhd” or whatever else like those “things” is some kind of invisible, undetectable bacteria in certain person and by detecting certain traits you can say whether they have this bacteria or not. When actually those items are more like constructs which rather help us to communicate certain expected hidden patterns inherent to phenomena while displaying certain other patterns but of more demonstrative nature

[@ThatManCarryingSand]

"Okay so what if we took the Penguin but just made him Tony Soprano?"

[@vilenau]

May I add something to this before even watching. Ozz seems to have dark triad, antisocial personality disorder is obvious so is narcissism but dont forget machiavelianism. Here's how that comes into play: Ozz is willing to be a nobody, humiliated and put into place in order to achieve what he wants. It is very hard for narcissist aka impossible to do the same due to their nature.

[@TheeBus36]

Psychopathy* this video essays trivializes narcissism by mapping it onto a psychopath

[@adr.marius5636]

The Sopranos is a Masterclass On Narcissism. Colin just based most of his character on Tony.

[@dilekbozkurt5584]

Wow! It was a great video

[@bostonluyasar7045]

I was going to say psychopath, but psychos usually have some sort of "code", they need that and it doesn't necessarily have to be like an evil code. For example, the great scene where Batman interrogates Joker is a great example of two psychos confronting each other. Penguin has no code.

[@lutfihasani7530]

except for the part with the mother i agree with most of what you assume about the character. we need more videos like this this was fun

[@ComedyBros5]

I hated this show, in a good way. It was phenomenal but Oz/Penguin was just portrayed as too despicable and hateful to enjoy watching the show again. A guy like him just brings you down. As said, fantastic show with a generation performance from Farrell, but I won't be able to watch it again.

[@prod.superior5434]

Imagine being so evil that you can detect when a character arc that will make you a better person is on the horizon and you go out of your way to prevent it to stay evil

[@dougdiamond5774]

Subscribed immediately after watching this. Brilliant take.

[@KB-313]

good stuff

[@Diazo--Diamante]

This show was awesome. Got me by surprise. The mother from HIMYM is sick in this. Nom Nom Nom

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Good analysis. I never saw the whole show, or even thought of him as a narcissist. This was a good video .

[@Grek]

Oz manipulated us in the same he manipulated his mother (I don't see anyone talking about this I feel like it makes Oz feel much more sinister.) Let me explain. Look back to the beginning of the show when we first meet Oz, he kills man with zero hesitation, because he made fun of him and laughed at him, he takes a kid hostage and forces him to become an accessory to murder. He makes it obvious that Victor will not make it out alive, even making him watch the sunrise. Then shockingly he doesn't go through with it, even though Victor is a loose end in such a serious crime. Oz appears to "sacrifice" his own safety by allowing a witness to the crime to live, Oz literally manipulates the audience into sympathizing for him and excusing his actions. After he spares Victor, you root for him. Maybe he really does see himself in him and is willing to support him after he JUST lost everything. Because of this, we're on his side. We know who he really is, we know he's a terrible person, but we have a change of heart after we're promised a vision he sold to us. His mother knows he killed his brothers, she know's he's genuinely evil, but she has a change of heart following the grand vision he sold to her. We even see him very similarly as to how his Mother does, we know he'll find a way to get out, always confident he's two steps ahead, we know he loves her and that everything is for her. We know he's a pretty terrible person, enough to kill for the smallest of reasons. This is exactly what we wanted, He beat Sofia, the Falcones, the Maronis, he's finally on top and he brings his mother with him. This is what we rooted for right? LET ME BE CLEAR: I'm not claiming that Oz is breaking the fourth wall to make us watch the show. I also was gonna add that Victor went through all of the same stuff, but the thing missing with his manipulation is having to see the final ending. We're with his Mother at the end when the only thing she can do is shed literally a single tear. I also get that his mother was manipulating him as well. But the parallel between the audience and his mother seems super clear. I could just be connecting random dots but idk, lmk.

[@MeelatchiDaibukti]

I d love to hear your thoughts on the Ripley miniseries

[@WestSideGorilla1980]

He's a good man. Made by and for his environment 😊

[@Krunkishisamurai1]

My favorite show! thx for this

[@ramonalejandrosuare]

This series reminds me of the other terrific portrayal of a narcissist out right now in The Apprentice. Regardless of your politics, I think that film does a masterful job of showing how someone with a chip on their shoulder and a need to be #1 becomes a narcissistic monster willing to sacrifice anyone and any moral principle to make it to the top. Oz's relationship with his mother easily mirrors Trump's relationship with Roy Cohn in how he betrays both in the most self-serving way on their way to the top.

[@upclosesneakers6875]

This is an excellent breakdown man, especially if you have actually been with a covert/vulnerable narcissist, everything you said here resonates with not only what I saw on the show, which was fantastic show, but my own experience of being involved with one... they are insidious, manipulative con artists... very dangerous..

[@SkyNetGeneral-]

Amazing show hope it returns. The bat signal perhaps means it will.

[@guner9824]

Eric Cartman is Penguin

[@lambtonworm2329]

How can I get a good night's sleep after you've shattered my self delusion and made me question every relationship I've ever had? Oh, manta sleep!

[@Aurelio12152]

Good job

[@YeLizardLords]

That wabble disappeared when firing a gun somehow

[@RobertPlatt-hd7go]

🎉well done sir 🎉

[@user-rl2rw3tp6s]

I’d say more Machiavellian a little bit loved 🥰 your ❤ video

[@matti.8465]

Ironic how Oz presents himself as this hero of the lower class in order to gain power, then ends the series becoming one of those "silver spooned aristocrats" with possible political aspirations.

[@Saveyourbs]

He’s a super villain. This is what they do.

[@Thumbprint912]

Very well done 🙏

[@esmaevci2430]

nice👍🏻

[@TheKingDagon108]

Oz is like one of the most genuinely bad guys in film. Bro has no redeeming factors just pure evil.

[@judsongaiden9878]

0:44 Those are the traits of a grandiose narcissist.

[@BOBimusRex]

My ONLY complaint about the The Batman universe so far, is the villains, and to a degree Batman himself, seem less like SUPER VILLAINS and more like... just criminals. The Riddler wasn't very Riddler like. The penguin doesn't go by The Penguin. And no one has any kind of super powers or gimmicks besides Rob-bat's slightly batty theme. I wanna see Colin with a monocle and an umbrella in the next one. I want my super heroes and super villains a little more SUPER and a little less pathetic. Paul Dano ISN'T scary or intimidating.

[@desmondcoppin591]

That’s kinda always been the point of Batman to me though? Batman is kinda supposed to be the more realistic superhero, fighting ACTUAL criminals. Most of his villains don’t have powers, and if they do, they usually didn’t have them at first. Obviously the personalities can be pretty wacky, but I think adapting Batman into a more realistic light is always better than the alternative.

[@BOBimusRex]

@desmondcoppin591 Thats what detective movies are for. Batman vs Joker, minus costumes, equals a cop vs a criminal. The costumes are practically the only thing that make Batman and his villains- SUPER, because like you said, Bats doesn't have powers, and a few of his lesser foes don't have powers either. Tho, I'd argue most of his MAIN antagonists DO have powers. The Joker is often attributed with "super-sanity" a genius-like ability, super strength, resilience, not to mention his use of chemicals. Catwoman has been portrayed as coming back to life, and having other cat-like powers enabling her to traverse rooves as well as B-man without any tech. Killer Croc, Clayface, Bane, Mr Freeze, Scarecrow, Raz Al Gul- these characters all have well defined and obvious powers. Take those away, and its just some dudes. I'm down for a "more realistic" super hero movie. But its not a super hero movie if there are no costumes OR powers. You can try to do it without one or the other, but a movie without powers OR costumes just isn't a super hero movie.

[@ChristalJ]

I haven’t seen this show or The Sapranos but it’s giving me Tony Saprano

[@TheNemesis442]

victor was my favorite character.....#justiceforvictor

[@DariusExplains]

He Knew his fluckin Name

[@unwealthybarber]

Looks similar to Al Capone in the untouchables

[@whhhhhhhhh]

Oswald brothers, whateva happened there...

[@DustinD-h3i]

Louise Litt in Suits is a better portrayal on narcissism

[@Lichnaya_pravda]

Isnt being evil in the evil world a right choice?

[@gyanprakashraj4062]

Only me

[@Michael_H_Nielsen]

yes he does. like a textbook example of narcasism

[@bigpictureguys8415]

Really dug the show but the way they deus ex machina’d main characters out of danger took it down a couple notches. When a character gets written into a tight corner I get excited wondering how they’re going to write their way out of this predicament. The Penguin as a show just says ehh they got away.

[@user-rl2rw3tp6s]

You should do homelander 😊

[@ValaritasYT]

Already did :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYjaq2iuqM-JiLs

[@IAmNumber4000]

Still not sure if I believe that’s Colin Farrell 😂

[@TheEolian]

🐧

[@esrasimge8351]

O M G 😱🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@damianstarks3338]

You are talking straight facts in this Penguin video

[@austincde]

Watching this show makes me understand the Rick & Morty criticism now 😂😂😂 its different when its a cartoon but...yeah Rick sucks as a real human lmao

[@nettewilson5926]

Narcissism??? He’s a psychopath

[@chronoallusion]

DCs tony soprano

[@TheSuperhomosapien]

I'd say he has Antisocial Personality Disorder.

[@UltimateLarper]

Both. People with aspd don't usually have a grandiose sense of self importance or a pervasive need for admiration.