Analyzing Evil: The Penguin From The Batman Saga

[@TheVileEye]

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[@newbornviking9721]

Analyzing Evil; Cabin in the woods

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

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[@josercamino320]

Thank you 🙏🏿 I know you saw my comment.

[@hankmercury-k5m]

Can you please do the dark urge from baldurs gate 3?

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

GREAT THE VILE EYE 👁‍🗨 ANALYSIS EVIL 😈 THE PENGUIN 🐧 FROM THE BATMAN 🦇 SAGA.

[@Joe_Karably]

I was so happy they didn’t make him an anti-hero. The Penguin has always been an unrepentant, greedy, sociopath. They nailed it with this series. Can’t wait to see Battinson beat his face in.

[@MisterDriskul]

This is what I wanted the Joker to be. A true villain story. Also what a hypocrite Penguin was for being a snitch for the Maronis and the city government yet he hated Don Falcone for being a rat. I guess he wanted what Carmine had, absolute control over Gotham.

[@damian_cross]

Killing Vic made no sense though. He could've put him on the bus to LA and gotten the same result. What they should have done was have Vic make a friendly joke and have Penguin kill him in rage, echoing the first episode.

[@bingusdingus39]

​@@damian_cross That's the whole point, there was no real reason why he had to kill Vic, he just did it because it was the most beneficial and easiest way to go about it for Penguin. The show is telling us that Penguin doesn't care about anyone but himself. He only cares about what they can do for him, even if they're loyal to him. You see it when Sofia bombs the tunnels, when Penguin finds the bomb, he doesn't warn anyone, he just runs(even though it would have cost him zero time or effort to do so). It's to drive in the fact that all he's ever thinking about is his own well being. Yeah he could send him to LA, but to him, he's just someone else that can be exploited like his mom and is just a loose end, so the easiest thing to do is just kill him

[@jonbodhi]

Agreed! I love a good anti-villain like Mr Freeze, but not EVERYONE has-to be sympathetic. Sone bad guys are just….bad!

[@jojipoji2322]

That face Penguin makes after killing Vic is the single most incredible display of evil I have seen in film since Tony

[@devontejefferson6520]

Right it was the penguin from the comics given flesh im glad others spotted that moment it was like the replaced the man

[@BjornWithASlash]

Some real Jack Torrance vibes

[@jojipoji2322]

@@devontejefferson6520 Colin Farrell is so talented, and yeah sure he has 15 pounds of make up on, but that face was him actually understanding how the makeup works and he created his own face through the make up. He is an absolute performative genius.

[@bigmann8932]

He should put that on the thumbnail

[@tannerbennett4784]

It definitely gives similar vibes to Tony killing Christopher

[@blacksuede]

The actor who plays Young Oz is a humble great young actor.

[@moonshine588]

It just occurred to me that he was an actor, I just thought that was young penguin.

[@quietek1074]

Best live action Cartman that we get.

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT THE VILE EYE 👁‍🗨 WORK.

[@bueno22283]

His post episode discussion was surprisingly eloquent and had a firm understanding of his character.

[@forcecalibration924]

Yea he was pretty good

[@dobiqwolf]

By killing Vic, he was protecting his future, as he said it himself, Vic was his weakness, he did care for Vic in his own way but that was a genuine love that he could not allows to exist. That scene really sold me the character.

[@nont18411]

I would say that I can’t see how Batman is gonna defeat the Penguin. By killing Vic, Penguin is now completely unbeatable because he has no weakness. And it’s a general knowledge that Batman’s no kill rule is the villains’ greatest plot armor. He will just put Penguin in Arkham, which he will eventually escape and kill a lot of people again, which means technically, Penguin keeps getting away with his crimes. It seems impossible for Batman to defeat irredeemably evil villains like him and the Joker.

[@dobiqwolf]

@@nont18411 Remember, this Batman is not an "action" hero, he is more of a detective and this Penguin is a great opponent for this cerebral type of batman. He is cunning, quick thinking and very adaptable and no apparent weakness, it will take more than muscle to put him behind bars.

[@Sunnnys_abyss]

But he cares about his mother’s life though doesn’t he? His mother validates and solidifies his ambitions so wouldn’t that be his weakness? It sounds kinda contradictory to be honest

[@TaterTotsNFanta]

​@@Sunnnys_abyss He doesn't need his mother's validation, he has Eve dressing up as his Mom and giving him validation now. Francis asked Oz to promise her that if she was ever unable to care for herself he would put her down. He actually might have but after she went off on how she never loved him and now having her locked up in a penthouse that she always wanted and unable to care for herself, she's in hell. Those weren't tears of joy at the end. Just like Sofia. Death is the easy way out, this is punishment.

[@ironbro2794]

Reminds me of that scene in GOTG 2 when Ego tells his son Star-Lord "it broke my heart to put that tumor in her head"

[@requiem4391]

Dont forget that he wouldn’t admit to his lies even to save his mom from being tortured

[@thedudefromrobloxx]

To me it shows his cowardice where he's so unwilling to face the guilt and shame he repressed for so long he's ready to let the only thing he cares about suffer to avoid it

[@ethancoster1324]

​@@thedudefromrobloxxHe cares more about himself or his reputation as a savior of the people than his Mother. He's a classic Narcissist/sociopath.

[@discombobulatedecho6025]

I interpreted that as part of him actually believes his own lies so deep that he’s incapable of admitting that he could possibly be in the wrong at all

[@erionmagni5879]

The real villain in The penguin is the guy of IGN who gave a 5 at the series

[@roysavageanimations5489]

The alien isolation special.

[@requiem4391]

I wonder if he even watched the show

[@jayyy1677]

Who cares about them

[@jayyy1677]

Really and truly

[@wingedhussar5528]

At this point I give zero shits about the opinions of journalists and "professional" reviewers.

[@ziggy8253]

One of the vilest things Penguin has done is make the audience feel a little bit sorry for him. Make no mistake: he is bad, Bad, BAD.

[@steel749]

HBO does alot I see, First with The sopranos now The penguin

[@nont18411]

@@steel749 Don’t forget Game of Thrones. That show is mainly populated by evil characters.

[@tony_dogs]

I'd say the most vile thing he did was all the murder

[@ziggy8253]

@@nont18411Just like “Succession.”

[@osmanyousif7849]

In all honesty, I kind of knew he became this way because of his influences. But as a wise himbo once said: "Yeah, you think he would have turned out better."

[@ReservationsCasaChable]

The Reveal of Kratos being the Narrator for these videos is Awesome.

[@Jabari10]

Right?!

[@bigchez2855]

Oswald is really the great improviser. Especially in the early episodes, he managed to turn every set back into a backup plan. Certain death becomes less and less certain as Oz maneuvers around hopeless situation after hopeless situation. It makes me think of a line from another Batman adaptation, Fox's Gotham, "much more cockroach than Penguin."

[@dobiqwolf]

So true, I was mesmerized by his ability to think so quickly and wiggle out on top after every setback.

[@erubin100]

they say that the most successful animals in nature arent the strongest or the smartest, but the most adaptable.

[@MisterDriskul]

This quote from Penguin in Gotham fits well with Vic's "talk." "Your greatest passion becomes your greatest weakness." The show takes a lot of inspiration from Fox's Gotham. Like Penguin starting as a low ranking member of the Falcone Crime Family. Starting the Falcone-Maroni Mob War as apart of his uprising. Having a rivalry/companionship with Sofia Falcone.

[@t.7124]

This is what you love to see when it comes to intelligence in media. It shouldn't be about predicting everything, it should be about quickly turning unforeseen setbacks into advantages

[@hasturthekinginyellow5003]

Something really interesting about this incarnation of The Penguin is that, unlike every single one before whom embraced the nickname, Oz does everything in his power as to NOT be referred to as "The Penguin" and the only people that use the nickname are those in a position of power over Oz and is always used as an insult.

[@EsKeleto2507]

Actually, the version of Fox's Gotham series didn't like the nickname either

[@nathangordon4891]

Honestly Colin Farrell’s acting and the excellent writing made his version of Penguin stand up there with Heath Ledgers Joker when it comes to perfect Comic villain portrayals

[@EsKeleto2507]

Vic's death scene really got me. I'm not going to lie, I've always been a fan of Batman comics and I already knew Penguin's profile, the moment I understood Vic's role, I was already sure that he would die, and that it would probably be by Penguin himself, whether directly or indirectly. And when Vic said that “they were family” I understood that it was his time, but I was still shocked, because I was watching Oz waiting for him to pull out a gun and shoot or a knife and stab him. But no. He strangled him with his bare hands while still talking to Vic. And he was smiling. The guy was strangling someone who a few hours ago helped him become Gotham's crime boss and had just called him family and was smiling. It is a consensus that in a strangulation scene the strangler has a strong hatred for the person being strangled. Just think of Hans Landa strangling the woman who tried to deceive him, or on Joker, when Arthur suffocates his mother after discovering the truth. The fact that Oz strangled Vic for nothing shows how cruel Oswald is, he wouldn't mind killing a close colleague with his bare hands if he felt it necessary. And the final touch was him throwing away his identity. Previously he had said that the two would never be forgotten once they established themselves in the world of crime, whoever found Vic's body would never know who he was, he died like a nobody

[@Amber417]

This is why my favorite graphic novel is actually Penguin: Pain and Prejudice. It tells about his childhood and the abuse that turned him into the monster you see today. Seeing his pain leaves you feeling a twinge of sympathy for him, but then reminds you how much of a monster he is as both a child and an adult. Anyone who enjoyed this series should read it.

[@hailkingrex]

What makes Oz so evil is how he's able to convince everyone and himself that he's telling the truth. In a way Oz is never lying because in his mind the truth changes whenever its convenient

[@ethancoster1324]

Alternative malleable facts

[@pissedoffnation]

Penguin is such a clever villain too he was so resourceful and good at improvising it made him a pleasure to watch

[@magallanesagustin4952]

I love his ability to turn every obstacle into an oportunity.

[@ottomattix86]

The ending to penguin/Vic is the perfect ending. Absolutely no choked pulled. Congrats to all involved in the production.

[@emperortimeo6467]

I like how Oswald was written the same way as real life criminal kingpins. He worked as a lackey driving around his boss’s daughter, and eventually made his way to the top by backstabbing and killing anyone who got in his way, like a modern-day El Chapo in DC form

[@tayojones9460]

The S1 finale washed away any sympathy fans had for Oswald. It was a brutal reminder that the Penguin cares about no one but himself.

[@damian_cross]

Another indicator of The Penguin's sadism is what he ends up doing to Sofia. Killing her would have been the smarter play in that it would have removed her as a threat completely. But giving her up to the authorities, knowing she would go back to being tortured at Arkham, was more satisfying to him.

[@username.exenotfound2943]

i just hope they dont do something stupid by making her kill hin in the end the penguin is a cockroach so the only one killing him is someone FAR worse perhaps black mask or professor pyg if those 2 are ever added maybe even the court of owls

[@hordakprime6172]

@@username.exenotfound2943 I've always liked the idea of Joker outsmarting Penguin by playing on his self-preservation and turning it against him so that as Oswald thinks he's about to get away he finds himself trapped and dies a miserable and pathetic end.

[@mikebasil4832]

The Penguin and the Joker are superb examples of how a supervillain can be given a very successfully starring role in their own story. Thank you for your Analyzing Evil episode for the Penguin. 👍🏻

[@Xehanort10]

16:56 He cared more about getting praise from his mother for getting to the top of Gotham's criminal underworld than he cared about her as a person.

[@IAmBored347]

While some people dislike The Penguin and spite it for not being comic accurate or returning to the dark edgy roots or it being too realistic. I feel this is my favorite Penguin of all media. Is he an underdog to root for? No. Is he sympathetic. Nah. I never got into the penguin because beyond his gentleman persona he never really impressed me. But this show captures what I wished Penguin. A dangerous mobster yet pathetic morally bankrupt man. Pathetic till the very end indeed especially his fate in The Batman movie.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Lol what? The show is PRETTY comic accurate in it’s own way of it’s adaption! The Penguin is PHENOMENAL and massively critically acclaimed and prasied. I’ve seen absolutely NO ONE “dislike it” at all and the dark edgy roots ARE what makes Batman’s lore and characters perfectly compelling and handled! This show is absolutely fantastic with constant praise nonstop. I’ve not see ANYONE “dislike it” in the way how you say as The Batman universe by Matt Reeves and The Penguin included feels like I’m watching a live action version of Batman The Animated series! It’s pitch perfect Batman portrayal and most of everyone is saying this! NO ONE saying what you’re saying at all as most of EVERYONE is saying this is their favorite Penguin in all media! You’re not in the minority at all, MOST OF EVERYONE is saying. Lol what are you on about? NO ONE is saying what you’re saying as the show is VERY comic accurate, and dark in the best way that fits Batman and perfectly realistic in the best way! The Batman is a MASTERPIECE of a movie and this show follows suit! There are no “some people” as no one is saying this at all as Batman and his world and characters are SUPPOSED to be super dark and serious inherently and everyone expects that out of his world as the show IS comic accurate in it’s perfect adaption!

[@tayojones9460]

@IAmBored347 If you actually bothered to pay attention 2 the original comic book version of Penguin you would know that he can be very dangerous and one of the reasons he is so dangerous is because people underestimate him due to his appearance! I do not care for "realistic" Batman. Realism is bloody boring and limits creativity l.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@tayojones9460 Lol Realism is ALL about Batman as Batman is supposed to inherently be a grounded superhero with no powers so his world is filled with street level characters. You can have a super powered characters and over the top villains and characters WHILE still keeping the “realism” vibe as there is no “limits creativity” AT ALL when it comes to Matt Reeves’ Batman universe as it’s filled to the brim with creativity and excitement from how thoughtful everything AS WELL as filling like a live action version of Batman the animated series BRILLIANTLY brought to life in the best way possible for Batman and his dark world! “Realistic Batman” works PERFECTLY here in the best way possible and it’s the furthest thing from “bloody boring” possible from its VERY creative usage of Batman and his universe! That should be obvious here as EVERYONE is loving it in the best way possible here!

[@TwistedAngel1231]

It's weird how they managed to make him an utter badass and a complete loser at the same time.

[@thedudefromrobloxx]

Really depends how you define those two things

[@Fargoth_Ur]

Tony Soprano's in a similar boat. There are moments, in isolation, where he seems like a really cool guy, almost aspirational. And then you get a hard dose of reality reminding you of how petty and monstrous he is.

[@TheMajestrix]

Those states of humanity are not mutually exclusive, lol

[@NathanielLongchallon]

He wasn’t badass.

[@weirdguy1495]

That's definitely the Tony Soprano/Walter White style of villain protagonist right there.

[@martinalexis7494]

This was asked a while ago, but I'm asking on behalf of that person. Analyzing Evil: Lotso Huggin' Bear from Toy Story 3

[@laurenhowell7691]

He can't do that just in case one of the Lotso bears from the Disney shop gets revenge on him

[@martinalexis7494]

​@@laurenhowell7691 TRUE:,(

[@clubkid13]

Hey Penguin….Vengeance is coming.

[@JaxBlade]

The second the last episode finished I got so hyped not just for the Batman 2 but the Analyzing Evil Review on this OZ and you masterfully delivered as always. Outstanding work on this. Also the show made me revisit the comics and how Oz took out his siblings there & at least live action Oz didnt go that effed up route haha but damn his delusions made for some immaculate tv.

[@c_rem6101]

Jaxblade sighting confirmation

[@justjoshua5759]

Theres a comment anticipating this when penguin kills Oz. Man’s like yourself has a reputation of doing a series justice lmaoo

[@justjoshua5759]

@@c_rem6101he’s in every hangout with the homies where the vybe and verse is interesting

[@andrewcook1246]

My fav part of this series was how it took a nod from The Wire in the sense that if you're not paying attention the series won't necessarily spoonfeed you. Os is likeable but everything he did in the series made him worthy of people's contempt. He literally would not lift a finger or help anyone without it being beneficial to him.

[@crystalin_N]

This show has better writing and characters on a caliber that I haven’t seen since Breaking Bad.

[@F4113N_ANG3L]

Fun Fact: Penguins are *Carnivorous* Animals Oz is a Predator

[@awyehh]

Oz was just a masterfully written villain in this show. At first we see him backstab every crime boss to gain any edge he can, but when we meet Vic and his mother, we believe they're the only people he'd never betrayed and are the reason why he's fighting so hard to claim Gotham as his own, to give them better lives. But at the end of the show, when Oz achieves everything he wanted, he kills Vic and forces his mother to live in her vegetative state, despite his promise to end her suffering. The second he turned his back on his own family for his selfish desires, was when he betrayed us, the audience, as well.

[@JoJoJoker]

Andor & Penguin. Two shows I never asked for but became two of my favorites.

[@jonbodhi]

I said more or less the same thing: two shows I had ZERO hype for ended up being favorites.

[@q94141]

Never thought I’d be rooting for Sal Maroni of all people to give Penguin a beat down, but after what Oz did to him and after what it had just been revealed Oz did to his own brothers… damn. I think the most vile thing about Penguin is that he’s fully capable of forming genuine bonds. His friendship with Vic wasn’t an act; the main reason he killed him was because he recognized that bond. And there may even be a little part of him that regrets leaving his brothers to die. That could be one of the reasons why he’s desperate for his mother’s approval and for the people of Gotham to love him. But Penguin always comes first to Penguin, no exceptions.

[@HellNation]

For the people in the comments, just stop comparing Oz to Tony Soprano. Apart from the haircut, they have nothing in common.

[@username.exenotfound2943]

they never even seen the sopranos and assume they are on the same level character wise

[@Bigstarrocker9]

This version of The Penguin reminds me of Al Capone

[@somedorkydude6483]

Ai capone the famouse tax payer

[@x-rex7236]

Or Tony Soprano

[@justjoshua5759]

@@x-rex7236yeah he reminds me of if season 6 tony soprano got worse but hid it more.

[@Bigstarrocker9]

@@x-rex7236 Reminds me of Tony as well

[@SEAZNDragon]

That’s the point, the Penguin is always been a crime boss.

[@jordanloux3883]

Penguin: One Bad Day put it best. All Oswald has ever been is an ugly little animal.

[@itsbreadbin]

Been looking forward to this one. Oz is one of the most evil, selfish people I have ever seen in fiction. He manipulates and gaslights everyone around him until he gets what he wants. He kills anyone who he feels stands in his way, without remorse or a single thought. He is true, pure evil. He has absolutely no remorse for the people he has hurt at all.

[@davidcase8635]

"The road to power is paved by hypocrisy...and casualties." - Frank Underwood from Netflix's House of Cards.

[@ppiorkowski1502]

The true story of At Close Range is so intriguing. There was a book written on the case and the author was asked to speak at a church. When asked why he was told "TO PROVE EVIL DOES EXIST!"

[@lilstupidahhboy5155]

Crazy to think that the penguin actually deserves a video like this now after watching the show, previous to all of that I thought he was a chill guy 😭

[@magallanesagustin4952]

We all knew he was a bad guy but he turned out to be the devil.

[@phillipdino6]

I would love to see an Analyzing Evil video for Arcane. I’ve never seen so many people split between if a character is pure evil or pure good as Viktor

[@K1ngCorvus]

Daaaaaang, Rocket Money saved my man so much time he had enough extra time to repeat that line in the ad read! What a service!

[@WyattDucar]

Here are my choices for Villains that would make great analysis evil videos. 1. Analysis Evil: Macrinus from Gladiator 2. 2. Analysis Evil: The Prophet of Truth from Halo. 3. Analysis Evil: The Qu from All Tomorrows. 4. Analysis Evil: Martin Walker, or John Konrad from Spec Ops: The Line.

[@obamaisdaddy6595]

Good taste

[@rohanbesra4831]

Ohho great list over here

[@andresochoamoro4981]

The qu would be amazing.

[@WyattDucar]

@@rohanbesra4831 Thanks!

[@elijahjagne6462]

Felt similar disgust when Oz killed Vic to how I felt with Tony at the end of the Sopranos. Super impressive.

[@alienboy1322]

Colin Farrell just disappeared both literally and figuratively in this role, and I love it.

[@BenHopkins1000]

Please do Monika from Doki Doki Literature Club. While most rogue self-aware AI are driven by hatred, nihilism, or their own stone cold programming, Monika is motivated by love, or a twisted notion of how it works

[@blacksuede]

Penguin was getting his ass kicked by Maroni and won by a last minute heart attack. Great writing.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

But that scene also showed that Oz was robbed of the glory that he sought trying to kill Maroni himself.

[@blacksuede]

@JustTooDamnHonest Ahh i think Penguin takes those W's anyway he can

[@thedudefromrobloxx]

​​​ the show literally showed that he doesn't. He desperately shouted at Sal's corpse that HE had beaten him, not the heart attack, but he had. He felt robbed that he couldnt prove how much better he was. That's not someone that just goes with it. Yea he recovered and came up with a plan and story but that was after. If you cant see that I dont know what to tell you

[@mr.punisher5100]

Maroni is an old man and probably didn't have a good diet and exercise regime in prison, combined with the amount of stress that comes with being a mafia boss out of prison and the death of his wife and son, is enough to give him a heart attack

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

@@thedudefromrobloxx I never said that Penguin didn't have an ego who suffers delusions of grandeur. Maroni died of a heart attack and Penguin used that in his favor.

[@davidcase8635]

"Everyone thinks they're the hero of their own story." - Handsome Jack from Tales of the Borderlands.

[@Themachomanic]

Epic show. But I think it's time you did South Park's answer to the Penguin... Cartman!!

[@vrokyoto]

His ability to lie even when all parties know the truth and he knows they know the truth is absolutely peak villain status, I’d say this penguin lies harder than Tony soparano himself, what makes him worse is that he simply doesn’t have that inner demon eating away at him, this is a man without any form of empathy or a conscience

[@xenoquest-ln6kw]

Another very important part of the Penguin and his evil is his need to feel as though he got the better of his enemies. This is demonstrated when Sal dies from a heart attack during his fight. You can see in his mannerisms and attitude, that Oswald is very disappointed. And his need to whisper in the ear of an already dead man “I beat you.” When that man died from a failing heart and not because Oswald got the better of him proves how important Oswald’s ego is, and how he views the entire thing like a game.

[@MRunlimiteded]

Saw the ending of the series and said “this is one evil SOB” now we can get the full breakdown. Love your videos brother.

[@mastereppsreturns6586]

The most "penguiny" scene for him is when he was yelling at Vic at the end of episode 2 for messing up the jewels plan

[@christinekarpiak1171]

The Fall of the House of Usher and The Glory have so many good villians!

[@asavelakuse6865]

I can't defend Oswald. He was just nothing but a ruthless, conniving, manipulative person. Ambessa Mederda from Arcane maybe the antagonist alongside Victor at least they have valid reasons for their actions (Ambessa wants powerful weapons to face off against the Black Rose and Victor wanting to bring peace to the world both end with deaths and destruction). Oswald was just ambitious without a care in the world. Victor an unwilling participate turned most loyal follower was killed for no more than being a potential weakness or seeing Oz at his lowest sends nothing but disgust as not matter how brutal leaders can be loyalty is something that should be valued. Oswald disregarded the person who saved his life, fought for him and had Oz's back when all the chips seemed to be down.

[@leonthecool123]

Health Ledger Joker would go so well with this version of Penguin.

[@hezekiahthomas837]

I love the fact that this show doesn't try to make him an anti hero. He's charming yes but make no mistake he really Satan's favourite general

[@widowgirl1254]

Analyzing evil: Firefly DC 🔥

[@Bryan-ce6bo]

The penguin from Madagascar

[@mikekz4489]

I’m so glad his role as villain was reaffirmed in the end. I also enjoyed The Penguin series as a whole and am glad it was a tie-in with The Batman movie. I could never get into other shows like Gotham because they only had a vague connection to a Batman, but not any one Batman. I wish Marvel TV series felt this satisfying.

[@keith6706]

I think Gotham did one villain good and that is the Riddler, and I say that because it provided a justification for the whole riddle thing. They showed that Nygma got an adrenaline high from _almost_ being caught, which happened a few times by accident. The man has such a magnified opinion of his intellect that he assumes that the only way the authorities have a chance of catching him, and giving him that high as he evades them, is if he gives them a chance, thus the riddles. Batman becomes a nemesis because he succeeds in foiling the Riddler's plots, which takes away the thing Riddler needs to get that high, namely getting away with it.

[@shideyafudo]

Man..as soon as I saw penguin I was like TVE is gonna have a field day with this one!!

[@mastergrey9082]

Analyzing Evil: Emperor Belos from The Owl House. I shall not give up!

[@nathansmith8310]

I hope bruce gives him those arkham combos

[@officerti714]

Some ideas for future vids Anylizing Evil: Franklin Saint from Snowfall Anylizing Evil: Homelander from The Boys Anylizing Evil: The League of Seven Evil Exes from Scott Pilgrim Anylizing Evil: Kingpin from Daredevil/MCU

[@MultiDjcraze]

Franklin's downfall was the stuff of legend.

[@JokerFan-hj4iv]

In my opinion Colin’s amazing acting in this Batman saga is doing for the penguin character what Heath ledger did for the joker.

[@cricketdogg]

Always a treat when there's a batman character being analysed. Great vid. Wondering if you've ever considered Doctor Who, I think villains like Davros, The Master and Rassilon are very cool, if a little niche to anyone outside of the UK.

[@aajc120]

Fantastic analysis. One thing from my own interpretation is that I think the reason he keeps his mother alive at the end is because he also needs someone to bear witness to his success. His mother is the only one who knew where he came from, so he needs her because she knows how hard he fought to "win." He's pathologically driven towards dominance and victory, to the point he screams "I beat you!" to a damn corpse. She (possibly) knows he won, and that's what he really wants. He's probably also doing it to punish her but I think it really comes from insecurity and misplaced pride

[@rogerw3818]

For me, the worst part of Vic's murder was tossing his ID into the water. His biggest "sell" to any potential ally was that others didn't know or care who they were, and his final act against Vic was to make him just another anonymous body. Killing Sophia and Francis would have been preferable to where he put them, and he knew exactly what he was doing to them. The closeups of the facial expressions after each successful outcome reveal the true Oz, one major league f'd up person. I loved this series for manipulating me to have sympathy for him initially and then wrecking it completely with those final two episodes. Bravo. Do me one BIGLEY favor: Don't do another season. Let this masterpiece stand on it's own.

[@avvc21]

I don't think it was to make him unidentifiable. It was to make it look like a random mugging and not gang related. Same reason he took the cash and threw the wallet to the side. Like at best it delays the identification assuming the Gotham police aren't entirely in the stone age

[@macleunin]

Despite retconning his last name and upbringing (the Penguin was always from a wealthy family), I liked how they kept his traits: evil, petty and absolutely self centered. Him killing Vic and disposing of his goons whenever he needed was totally in character for him.

[@magallanesagustin4952]

Oz never had the makings of a varsity athelte.

[@multipass113]

14:21 “EVERY GOD DAMN TIME!” For me, one of the most memorable lines because of its delivery; so telling.

[@greyworld6242]

What is more messed up is the fact that now Oz’s mom has everything she’s ever could’ve wanted and now is stuck as a vegetable and a now a prisoner inside her own body and som she can’t even enjoy anything anymore like a regular person and her son can while also holding her life in the palm of his hands forever. So that tear she shed has two meanings now. And that’s all just so messed up as hell!

[@thiagopereira3677]

Analyzing Evil: JR Ewing from Dallas, and Frank Underwood from House of Cards

[@keithwoodcrest]

Oh, Frank Underwood would be a really good episode! Second that for sure

[@andynystrom1519]

If he does Frank Underwood, he should also do Francis Urquhart from the British version, maybe in the same video to discuss how they overlap and how they differ.

[@ionamygdalon2263]

You should definitely do the father of Batman. After playing the PS4 game "Batman: The Telltale Series" I realized that maybe his father was the real evil guy 😢

[@Ax-xN]

The end of vic was very obvious when oz’s mother was affectionate towards vic in crown point Oz got angry and literally choked him afterwards it was always obvious

[@shonkyindustries]

Good breakdown but you seem to have missed his final revenge on Sophia - having her returned to Arkham Asylum, the place which pretty much traumatised her into her current state, rather than just killing her. I think that incident, along with Vic's murder and his mother being imprisoned in her "dream" home pretty much drove out any illusions that Oz might be redeemed. While I thought the series was one of the best things I've seen in a long while, I'm kinda hoping they leave this as the origin story and don't do a series 2, as once you realise the character is capable of anything, nothing will be surprising.

[@gaelofariandel6747]

Odin from God of War at some point, please.

[@pederhalvorsen2289]

After I finished up the final episode last week, (And nearly puked over what Oz did to Vic in the climax of the story.) I thought to myself, "Man, it would be great if The Vile Eye would feature this new portrayal of the Penguin in one of his future videos." Thanks for not disappointing, good sir. Stellar work, as always. 👍👍👍👍

[@GiuseppeDeRosa2001]

Ohhhh did not know he dropped this masterpiece!!!

[@nasir6r996]

Roderick and Madeline Usher from " The Fall of the House of Usher" next?

[@magallanesagustin4952]

I'd love to see that.

[@vincentmercene2126]

This version of penguin was a bad guy in the start, victor was what made him look like he had a humanity. But after killing vic, the writers made me successfully realize what kind of monster he really is. and the thing is, we always knew what penguin was, but it still shocked us when he did what he did best, abuse and get rid of the people around him for his own gain... Even making his mother live in her own personal hell at the end.

[@WyattDucar]

Something I always been curious about is that despite telling Carmine about Sofia interaction with Summer Gleason. When the police are about to arrested Sofia He seems genuinely confused and shock Don’t get me wrong penguin is evil, but I always find this moment of genuine shock and confuse from him and at least trying to defend Sofia or at least defend from her getting arrested Very interesting! One could make the argument that yes Penguin is definitively Evil and I'm sure he knew that Carmine would punish her either lightly or harshly. But probably didn't know how far Carmine would go as in sending his daughter into Arkham Aslyum and make false documents that declared her insane!

[@malcolmhodnett8874]

I don’t think he expected her to get locked up for it but he saw a chance to be a little petty and get points with the big boss

[@wendyforde9303]

Exactly. I think Penguin really cared for Sofia, even a little bit if not much, as she said that she doesn't underestimate him, and knows him, but once she took it out on him after the realization from the reporter, Oswald became petty and told Carmine. I don't think he meant for her to be taken to Arkham, but he, for sure, took the opportunity offered before him. I'm not defending his actions. I'm just saying I kinda know what led him there. Sofia didn't deserve that. Don't insult Oswald, which is the theme, you learn through the show.

[@WyattDucar]

@@malcolmhodnett8874 Good Point and it does make a lot of sense, I'm sure or at least no doubt that he was expecting Carmine to punished Sofia in some way. But I didn't he expected to have Carmine not only locked his own daughter up for a decade but also make false documents that declare her insane. He is still petty and evil but in this case this ain't one of them at least based on initial reaction when the police arrive to arrest her. If anything he probably would expect Carmine house arrest his daughter or at something similar to it?

[@WyattDucar]

@@wendyforde9303 You make a very good point, in fact I could see his whole apology to Sofia in the nightclub prior to the Maronis arrive being somewhat genuine. If anything he probably would expect Carmine house arrest his daughter or at something similar to it but not throwing her in Arkham Aslyum!

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

He sold her out, but did not know what was going to happen outside of that, the speed and severity of the consequences would've been very surprising as from his POV she just talked to a reporter for a few minutes. He had no idea the stakes were a secret that could've destroyed the entire Falcone family and undermined Carmine's trust in his daughter irreparably. While Oz is scum, I _do_ believe what he says to Sofia, that he is sorry about the _consequences_ of what he did and would take them back if he could, but he is not sorry for doing it, and he would do it again.

[@seanbrazell7095]

Even after he burned two people alive and killed his brothers, iit wasnt until he kills vic that I could accept he was evil. Masterfull EVERYTHING. This show really did what even breaking bad couldn't do - making the main character truly irredeemable in the end.

[@WalkBesideMe]

I think keeping Francis alive despite her explicit wishes to be killed if she ever got to a point she couldn't support herself to satisfy his own sick delusion of praise and not letting her go is a different kind of evil I haven't seen on TV since the days of Tony Soprano. That was a new low.

[@sparks2378]

This show is truly incredible in building this Gotham universe and giving us one of the greatest villains we’ve seen in a while. My only issue is how do you top this. Can Matt Reeves really make another villain in this world feel as iconic as him and Lefranc have made the Penguin? Can’t wait to find out.

[@thedudefromrobloxx]

7:04 I wouldn't call him good natured or kind at all. He was weirdly possessive of his mom and did kind things for her to get her for himself

[@Malshiina]

Day 55 of asking you to please make a video analyzing leo kasper/daniel lamb/the project from the game manhunt 2.

[@ninaschmidt3619]

You got to do Emio the , smiling man from the game, Famechon detective You will have a field day with this one

[@c.e.w5833]

Analyzing Evil: Simon &/or Shane from Walking Dead.

[@atharvjagtap2918]

Analyzing evil: SpecOps the Line.

[@nathansmith8310]

Ive been asking for that for 2 years

[@Okkara-q3b]

"You know what I like most about you, Oz? You are who you are. And you couldn’t change if you tried." ― Alberto Falcone "Ain't that what makes me fun?" ― Penguin. SPOILERS ALERT Oz is a cruel, power-hungry, and insecure man, with a rather smarmy way of speaking and a sadistic approach to taking lives. He has no care for who he hurts or how, so long as he gets his way, and delights in destroying his enemies, though it should be noted he does show an aversion to killing innocent people, as he gave Victor Aguilar a cigar before almost attempting to kill him, before the latter convinced him to spare him. He is also a greedy and lustrous individual as he attempted to go against his superiors and make more money for himself and get a chance to become a crime lord. However, he still has a sense of honor, being disgusted with Carmine Falcone upon learning that he snitched on Salvatore Maroni and caused his arrest. He also seems to have a little bit of good in him, as he genuinely cared for Selina, and offered to give her money when she asked to work in the 44 Below, not wanting her to be harmed by the other patrons, and was hurt when she told him off. He also loves his mother, whom he cares for a lot and looks after, paying her a visit every Sunday to help her with her medications and tried to convince her to leave Gotham for a while after he murdered Alberto Falcone. Coming from a lower-income neighborhood, Oz shows a deep resentment to the rich people, like the Falcones or the Waynes, believing they don't appreciate what they have because they were born without having to feel hunger, cold or desperate. He's got a mentality that people like him, meaning someone from a poor background, have to take what they deserve in order to gain respect and be seen by others On the other hand, he is capable of feeling some level of compassion, empathizing with Victor and decides to take him in as his protégé because he saw himself on the boy. His goal in life is to become like Rex Calabrese, an old gansgter of his neighborhood whom he admired and saw as his idol, being the man who takes care of his own people providing them with anything they need such as money, medical attention, paying debts of anyone who needs it, etc. However, despite his great ambition and goal to be the kingpin of Gotham, Oz deep down does all of it so he can make his mother proud of him given that she's the one who raised him with the mentality of being some important on top everyone else. Despite his ruthlessness, Oz does have a softer and vulnerable side, although he hides it most of the time. He only shows this side with people like his mother, Eve and, to some extent, to Victor. He also possesses a sarcastic sense of humor. When being confronted by Batman and Jim Gordon about being allegedly the "Rata Alada", Oz teases them for the way they speak Spanish, emphasizing in the difference between "el" and "la" and how they're the "world's greatest detectives" for not noticing that spelling mistake, and rhetorically asking if the Riddler is actually stupid. Since he was a kid, Oz has been shown to be resentful, cold-hearted and ruthless although impulsive, after playing hide and seek with his brothers and feeling frustrated and enraged because they laughed at him for his condition, he locked his brothers inside of the Sewers, letting them drown to death completely by accident. He's a compulsive liar, directly lying to his mother for decades about his brothers' death, also lying to everyone in the Falcone Crime Syndicate by claiming his mother is dead and has no one else in his life. He despises being disrespected, and specially being called as "the Penguin", something that even on his adult life he's capable of showing some impulsive reactions fueled by his insecurities, he takes every comment, joke, or nickname people give him as an insult to the core and reacts aggressively. When things don't go as he planned he acts violently and bursts out his own inner rage, like when Salvatore dies from a heart attack while facing him in combat, Penguin couldn't withstand the idea of not being able to kill him personally and yells to his body how he won and how disappointed he feels because he died before he could show him his true strength.[2] Penguin was also shown to be outright deluded when it came to the reality of the situations he would often find himself in. One of the reasons why he managed to fool so many people for so long, is the fact that he was largely lying to himself as much as he was to them the entire time. Everything he ever said about his brothers, Vic, his mother, wanting to get back at the rich and powerful, and wanting the lower-class people to be treated like equals by the upper echelons of Gotham, are all things that he genuinely wants and believes in but was in denial about himself. Every person he has ever killed, whether they were just a gang member, mobster, or social elite, was never about anything as noble as he claimed it as. It was always about control, and him getting back at anyone who had ever disrespected him. Penguin later completely descends into evil when he kills Vic, who had become like a son to him, simply because he saw attachments as a weakness, even though Vic saved his life multiple times and was completely loyal to him, showing Penguin to be nothing but an ungrateful conman who has no loyalties to anyone other than himself and possibly to his mother.

[@jakemoores9641]

Could we get an analysis of nucky Thompson or ordell robbie before the end of the year(honorable mention to billy bickell from 7 psychopaths)

[@BobBob-eb4io]

Nucky's one I've been wanting for a long time. i feel like a few characters from that show could have their own episodes

[@jakemoores9641]

@@BobBob-eb4io maybe Richard Harlow lucky Luciano and Meyer lansky,and chalky white are a few i can think of that could get their own analysis of besides nucky

[@BobBob-eb4io]

@jakemoores9641 In my head, i was thinking of nelson, jimmy, rothstein ,Chalky, and Dr. narcise(proubably butchered his name) just goes to show how many great characters are in that show.

[@norina195]

Oz could've just shot Vic on the head, but chose the physical and personal method - strangulation - as means of catharsis from his bond with Vic

[@ImpossívelSociedadeAnônima-i3v]

Personally, the definitive version of the penguin for me will probably always be Robin Lord Taylor in Gotham

[@jonbodhi]

He was for me too…until now!

[@A_r78]

Vic crawled under Oz… for warmth

[@JulzGein_]

Was he barkin?

[@newbmurderer8459]

1:36 I’m gonna go get the papers get the papers

[@TheHouse2281]

I’m glad they actually made him a villain and not an antihero like all other villain focused media does

[@nont18411]

2024 seems like a year of resurgence of “irredeemably evil villains” especially villain protagonists, while the “sympathetic villains” still exist but not as strong as before. - Coriolanus Snow - Hunger Games prequel movie - Jimmy - Mouthwashing - Yoshii Toranaga - Shogun - Oswald Cobblepot - The Penguin - Donald Trump - The Apprentice (Disclaimer: I’m not saying as someone who’s on the left or right. I’m not even American. I just categorized him from what I saw in the movie, which from what I know, managed to piss off both political spectrums)

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Yes because those other “villains” don’t work AT ALL. That’s why a lot of people don’t like venom, morbius, and probably Kraven included as well!

[@CorvusLaurie]

Great analysis and very well put together 🤌

[@GentlemanKC]

The Penguin is a fantastic TV series that does a great job at expanding the world of Gotham City and making Oz seem explicitly irredeemable, which is something few TV shows and films do nowadays. Also, I have a good idea for an episode you could do: Analyzing Evil: Franklin Saint, from the crime drama, Snowfall. I think the way he develops over the series is quite reminiscent of characters like Walter White, so I think it would be interesting to see.

[@RE-ol5ws]

Analyzing Evil: Unicron from Transformers This is my most wanted episode of AE and I hope it happens in the future.

[@steel749]

Shattered glass Optimus prime or Ultra magnus would make great ones too

[@thesorrow4664]

"You underestimate me Galvatron"

[@Fantastic-rp3lc]

I feel like a video about D-16 in TFONE would be the most probable choice for an AE episode on Transformers

[@RE-ol5ws]

@steel749 Those would work too.

[@RE-ol5ws]

@Fantastic-rp3lc That works too, but Unicron is one that I've wanted to see for years!