The perception of Romance… (speedpaint, commentary, the bear, sydcarmy, Skillshare)

[@emmasaurt]

*I CHANGED THE TITLE FROM “IN DEFENSE OF ROMANCE” I think the new one is more fitting and i was on the fence anyway Thanks for watching! Stay until the end to see updated outro! I wanted to make this comment to reiterate that I think that whatever the writers do with sydney and carmy will be just fine, and their relationship can be as intense as it is and it still be platonic I just wanted to explain how some might see it that way! Them being together and speaking is all I need baby! Shipping can be annoying I know but as long as it’s not gross and weird(you know what i’m saying) It should just be seen as fun! I love seeing all of your perspectives it’s opened my eyes to different ways of looking at things so thank you for that! *edit I’ve seen a lot of replies commenting on my wording of their relationship saying them being in a traditional romantic relationship would be a “elevation” or “more” than what they have now. I in no way had the intention to devalue platonic relationships of any kind, i was more referring to physical intimacy in romantic relationships similar to what carmy and claire have. I apologize for my ignorance and I will try and better my wording in the future!

[@OPacoustickitty]

yah this one is better!

[@davidaugustofc2574]

Some of y'all love too much, and while that's cute there's little to no content that wasn't tarnished by love lovers, some people love just a little and others don't love at all. There are all kinds of people.

[@jjju3]

Gay ships 🤝 interracial ships "CAN'T TWO PEOPLE JUST BE FRIENDS" discourse

[@PaperRabbitsArts]

war flashbacks to FinnRey from the most recent Star Wars movies

[@doccanigetsomecandy7809]

One thing I wanted to added Sydney and Camry is how many feel like how woman of color don’t get the chance to be seen as love interest or as love up. Wither it’s projection or something else it’s still important to point out that habit in media to sideline women of color and the feeling or woc in the real world being important this

[@hmmmnope2455]

I don't know how I feel saying this but you're so right and this applies to real life as well. Me and my bestie are both woc(multiracial lineage. We're coloured women in South Africa) and are considered above average looking. I know if I go out in public I'm going to have people staring at me or complimenting me. Yet put me in a room full of white men(under the age of 40, very important) and I automatically know I'm not going to get approached. I just assume they don't see me that way(with romantic or sexual intention). It's kind of reassuring but a messed up mentality to have and I don't know how to...."fix" it

[@serenegenerally]

My main gripe with M/W relationships in media is the fact that there seems to be a lower standard when it comes to writing them (for example: Marinette and Adrian, Bella and Edward, Anastasia and Christian, etc). Sexism is so prevalent here (with the man being dom/power imbalances) and it’s so frustrating as a person who likes slow and sweet romance. I hate it when the love interest is shoddily written too, because there’s no chemistry!!! There ARE good relationships such as Jim and Pam, but I hope in the future people can understand that power imbalances/2d characters are not it

[@serenegenerally]

Not to say that LGBT relationships are superior, ofc. There’s too many times where it’s been botched. I just wish showrunners put more thought into creating their romance

[@emmasaurt]

YES I AGREE i really dislike when romance is written like it’s a given because usually there’s so little thought put into it, i wish included a thought like that in the video.

[@randompersonK_1234]

Also many dynamics are repeated over and over

[@s.m5576]

Do you have any tips with writing m/w dynamics and adding chemistry? I'm not much of a writer but I do have my own characters I draw occasionally and I wanna improve their storyline while not having them fall into the common unhealthy tropes.

[@serenegenerally]

@@s.m5576 it’s the same as writing any other ship (WLW or MLM) I wish I could help more but my words aren’t end all be all so take this with a grain of salt, But here is my “advice” (or things that work for me): - observe M/W couples you like in media. Why do you like them and why do they work? - make sure they spend enough time with each other and have time to know one another! Relationships fail because the love interest is introduced just to be a love interest. - make both of your characters 3D! What makes them tick? Their insecurities and goals? Why do they love the other person? Etc You shouldn’t rely on my comment only since tbh I’m not qualified enough (after all I’m just a guy (gender neutral) on the internet) but I hope that can point you in the right direction

[@kezy_b8984]

It seems to me that when writers don't intend for the characters to have a romantic relationship, that the outcome of the relationship is often much more authentic and engaging to viewers because the relationship isn't built using romantic formulas we've all seen before. And we like authentic relationships and want to see them be as close as possible and to a lot of people that means romance.

[@jadacampbell9331]

This point was made in another video about the irony of using romantic tropes vs. Not using them and the said "platonic" relationship appearing more like the deep relationship. In this case, the mutual respect clearly is not there

[@Joeeyyyyy]

This especially from what I’ve seen happens with interracial and gay “couples” (putting quotes around it because in the show they aren’t together). The characters can have such a deep and nuanced connection and THATS when the writers don’t want to make them a relationship. Of course you don’t have to all the time and platonic relationships are very meaningful and gorgeous things. I for one just think it’s odd that there’s a lack of romance with things like this. If the character was either white or a woman/man instead, it would almost instantly be perceived as a romantic plot. Personally though, I like Syd and Carmy either way. I think their relationship is very interesting and I’d like to see the path it takes.

[@ghxsting5667]

EMMA DROP THE BELLA AND CHARLIE REDESIGN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!

[@AnnabelleMay.]

TOO RIGHT 👍👍👍

[@crykat5219]

FOR REALLLLL

[@shrimp_cocktail-hy8lw]

PLEASEEE

[@emmasaurt]

it’s gonna be next 🤭

[@NerdLover_69]

@@emmasaurt YIPPIE :DDD

[@PossiblyonNeptune]

This reminds me of Gwen and Miles. It’s like people just found a reason to bash Gwen, and I’m honestly going to believe they just don’t want them being an interracial couple.

[@Norhmitch8]

Personally, if you can get the important story and characters first, I'm happy seeing a bit of romance sprinkled in. I hate when they make it the first priority, but other than that I adore romance.

[@zillynfox]

You absolutely get my feelings on it!!

[@Norhmitch8]

@@zillynfox thank you too!!

[@rizikos_]

One thing I hate with these kinds of things is when a pairing that has no real chemistry in the story is hyped up by fans so much that you can’t run away from it while casually trying to browse a tag lol. Shipping is fun but the frustration is real 😂 love your vids!

[@emmasaurt]

i totally get that!!! It can be very consuming of a fandom

[@raindeer9787]

I hate whenever a relationship in a show or movie feels forced. One of the more infamous examples of this is from Star vs. The forces of Evil. In the beginning, Star and Marco were friends, and the creators intended to have the series progress with their friendship. It was only until the ship between them became very popular that they tried to write them together, but it was so clunky and felt like fan service, just done really poorly. Basically the whole fandom agrees the show was amazing until like the last season or so.

[@serenib33]

@@rizikos_ I totally get that! I don’t ship characters a lot and when I do it’s mainly W/W or M/M. Idk I just can’t find good M/W ships (I literally only have two heterosexual ships

[@AstronomicalJelly]

@@raindeer9787have to disagree with you there, i think it was very clear from the beginning that the author had the plans to make them end up together eventually. i mean even episodes in s1 hinted at it. so i don't really buy into the idea that it was the fans' shipping that "made" them rush it but the writers just.... didn't write them that well lol

[@strawberrycheesecake6788]

Ngl, I just like romance when it feels like they're just content with being together. But I also love buildup so muchh aughhhh!!! A lot of romances to me just aren't slow burn enough, like, they make them fall in love too quickly 😭😭😭 I'm absolutely a slow burn girlie 🗣‼‼ i love when they have cute moments and joke with each other, and even joking bullying and longing glances and too long touches LIKE DUDE WHEN THEY HOLD HANDS OR EYE CONTACT FOR A SECOND TOO LONG I START TWEAKING

[@doobedoobeedowaaa4615]

this!!!! you phrased it so perfectly!! those types of moments are truly the ones that get me giggling, twirling my hair, and kicking my feet

[@jadacampbell9331]

This took place in the 🐻 a high stress environment? Time for stolen glances? Barely time to breathe 😪

[@shayerahol6434]

One thing I don't like about gay ships in fandom is how quick fandoms are to force strict gender roles. There could be two masculine or two feminine characters of the same gender and fandom acts like they just have to make one of them the opposite so it can still fit their heteronormative cisnormative ideas of LGBT+ characters (for example, two feminine gay men characters being changed into one hyper-masculine man and one feminine man so it's "acceptable" to straight people's ideas of us LGBT+ people even if the author of the story specified they intended both characters to both be gender non-conforming)

[@sapphoscorner]

while i agree I would be careful phrasing it like that, especially for sapphic relationships because butches/studs arent represented at all. I do get what you mean, most people for achillean ships do that but I'd say it gets a tiny bit different for sapphic ships due of the existence of butches/studs, also 90% the people who like sapphic ships the most are sapphics so I wouldnt say that fans try to fit a heteronormative/cisnormative narrative. Truly I get it but historically speaking feminine man and masculine women have been a huge thing in queer spaces so it doesnt always fit those ideas

[@doccanigetsomecandy7809]

YESSS OMG THATS FOR SAYJNG THIS

[@doccanigetsomecandy7809]

@@sapphoscornertrue i agree

[@shayerahol6434]

@@sapphoscorner I'm GNC and queer myself and vary widely in how I present myself. Butches/studs and twinks will forever be a fundamental part of the queer community. Drag, trans people, gender non-conformity, studs/butches, twinks & and general gender variance/gender expression variance is important to our community and always will be. It's why I said "There could be two masculine or two feminine characters of the same gender" and not "there could be two masculine *men* and feminine *women* ". I never specified gender because that wasn't my point. My problem is that hetero people in fandom often act like they absolutely need to know "who's the top", "who wears the pants", "so who's the man in the relationship" and otherwise ask invasive, uncomfortable questions even if it's completely unrelated to the story because they feel the need to project heteronormativity and gendered stereotypes onto people who don't neatly fit into societies ideas of "acceptable queerness" Sometimes people are butch 4 butch, femme 4 femme, twink 4 twink, bear 4 bear and it happens just as often in real life as butch 4 femme or twink 4 bear/otter relationships and those relationships can be just as fulfilling as any other. This also isn't against butch/stud 4 femme or twink 4 bear relationships either because once again, these are common, normal, and can be just as fulfilling. My problem is when people cannot stand to see characters who don't fit ideas of "acceptable queerness" and change the characters until they do fit those ideas. Especially because sometimes the person who takes on a more stereotypically masculine presentation may not always be the one "wearing the pants in the relationship" or be the top or whatever other heteronormative assumptions that are often made in fandom by hetero people in fandom spaces and vice versa. Sorry for the long response, I just felt it was important to clarify my thoughts being that I'm GNC and queer myself and anyone who's actively against GNC queer people needs to educate themselves and change their perspective.

[@rizikos_]

One time I was looking through ship art of kouta and serizawa from suzume (lol) and someone decided after watching the movie that kouta would be a shy blushy uke….like straight up ignoring his character throughout the entire movie...dude???? Changing the characters personalities so blatantly for a ship is annoying to me lol like why don’t you find two characters who actually have that dynamic you want instead 💀

[@Garage-Catto]

I personally don't like romance, it makes me a wee bit uncomfortable and I just would rather watch/read something else. I'm not against romance in media at all, I just don't like it as the main focus of the story. I have only seen a few of the first episodes of The Bear, I'm not against them coming together but I understand both sides. Also, as a mixed person, some people being against them coming together because of race is so messed up. I had no idea that was the reason some people didn't want them together.

[@emmasaurt]

it’s not the only reason of course and it’s totally okay not to want them together, but in some discussions i’ve seen it’s clear for some people what their feelings are 😬

[@Garage-Catto]

@@emmasaurt yeah, there are always the bad apples of the fan-base...

[@Art_block_ofc]

Im glad you’re ok with the perception of it in a story just not as the main focus. People these days think its gross and cringey. I understand about it being the main concept but people don’t like when it’s even reflected.

[@imnoorrs5095]

As an Aro person I feel as though I can’t escape the prioritizing of romance over all else, can’t have one intimate platonic friendship without someone condescendingly saying “Oh yeah they’re SUCH ‘good friends’ lmao”. People ignore the fact that aro characters are still aro - I know aro people can date, but we get next to nothing, and I’m so sure if I shipped a canon gay man with a woman just because “Gay men can date women in real life” I would look like a clown! Because that’s clown behavior! I don’t know, I don’t fight people over their headcannons being different than mine, and I don’t hate romance! I love shipping, I just get so burnt out when it’s all shipping all the time in addition to people putting platonic relationships down AND in a box.

[@zesty6781]

I’m alloro but yeahhh its not fun :( Especially since imo platonic relationships in the queer community are so important. Like I genuinely believe i would be dead without my friends.

[@imnoorrs5095]

Me too, my friends got me through so much and people downplaying the value of platonic relationships are so wack. Solidarity.

[@littleguy3]

as an aro i can relate so hard to this. for example, there’s these two characters in this fandom im in that have an INCREDIBLY amazing and interesting dynamic- whether it be platonic or otherwise. but almost everybody chooses to ship them as romantic instead of exploring/discussing their dynamic in other ways :(

[@monster-enthusiast]

Fr, this shit is exhausting. And I'm saying that as an aroace who LOVES romance.

[@Gii7077]

YUP and people will fight to the death when what they're fighting for is 'romantic relationships are superior/more loving/more intimate' and they simply do not wanna say it lmaooo

[@pinepaz5915]

similar to you, i adore romance in media i consume. as a lesbian, its rarer that i find myself truly caring about straight relationships, but something about syd and carmy really did it for me! i honestly would be more than content just having little moments with them throughout the series, similar to season two. the show is about the restaurant, as well as carmy’s unresolved trauma. i love their dynamic, but ideally would love it to be written as an open interpretation, due to the fact that both characters need to grow more before being in a relationship that could become unhealthy. i was dissatisfied with how out of sync they felt in season 3, but im hoping and praying they will be on track with what the writers always intended them to be (whatever that is), and not succumbing to any pressure put on by shipping in the fandom. i’ll also always be a little sad claire was introduced because i feel like she doesn’t bring anything to the table, but oh well, im not on the writing team.

[@emmasaurt]

THEM BEING OPEN TO INTERPRETATION IS SO GOOD I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT LIKE THAT

[@lilacfields]

i’m a lesbian who loves syd and carmy and i feel the same way. i don’t think either of them are necessarily ready for a relationship (which makes whatever they’re doing with claire so ??? to me) but that they still care a lot about each other and i see the potential for feelings to grow between them. i would be satisfied if they never got together as long as we keep getting sweet moments like the table scene 😭 also the intense backlash for this ship only makes me like them together more bcs why has a ship got them this rattled???

[@LowSlungBadBitch]

Claire’s character is a mirror device. She’s perfect funny smart kind conventionally beautiful. None of the other characters are that on first look (you find out she’s a doctor immediately you assume she’s smart, the other characters you’d have to know them to find out they’re smart.) with her there’s nothing to “find out” it’s all laid out perfectly. She’s like the trope of manic pixie dream girl (not saying she is one but that her character is used in a similar way, juxtaposition).

[@CATTAILxoxo]

One thing I wish people understood about shipping is that there doesn't have to be a reason for why someone ships a particular pair. There's a common belief that it's wrong to ship characters or rare pairs who haven't met or don't show chemistry. However, many people ship based on their own vision, or because they like the characters' color palettes, ship names, or personalities, hell some people ship characters only because they find both characters attractive. Shipping doesn't have to follow canon and doesn't need a reason-though it can have one. One of my favorite ships that I'm currently obsessed with exists only in my imagination because both characters wear uniforms that expose their chests. That's it. Canonically, one character doesn't like the other, platonically or romantically, but does that stop me? No, and it doesn't have to. In my mind, I can envision that they love each other without relying on canon. I can happily ship these characters since they don't have much screen time together, and when they do, there's no animosity. This allows me to create my own relationship for them. People don't need to justify why they ship a particular pair, as long as it's healthy, legal, and morally right. There's also a huge misconception about shipping. Many think shippers are just obsessive fans who believe their ship must become canon, and that if it doesn't, it's wrong. and while there are a lot of shippers who think like this, In reality, many shippers rely solely on fanon (fan-created content) and don't care if their ship becomes canon. This is especially true when a show doesn't revolve around romance. I'm aware that my rare pair won't become canon, and I don't want it to. I ship it for fun, not because I believe it will happen. This is particularly true for the multishipper side of fandoms, where fans enjoy shipping multiple pairings within a single fandom.

[@bug7461]

I agree that shipping is often misunderstood by those unfamiliar with fandom culture. I also ship multiple pairings with character that haven't interacted with each other in canon: Kaeya and Childe from Genshin Impact, because of fan interpretations of the games lore. Another ship is Todoroki and Sero from MHA just because they interacted one time where they exchanged manga lol. Shipping is fun and I think people need to become less judgemental to people having harmless fun

[@lunchlessbaghead]

Oh boy, yeah, shippers have a hugely bad rep due to the most vocal being vocal for the wrong reasons. I come from the good ol', and kinda controversial, Voltron: Legendary Defender fandom, where I think most people outside of it know it from the awful ship wars and death threats/doxxing of the show crew in attempts to get their ship canonized (coughcough Klance coughcough). On the other hand, I also come from the Detroit: Become Human fandom, where one of the most popular and simultaneously out of left field ships is between two characters who never meet, one who is a minor antagonist and asshole and the other who pops up post credits with zero lines for like 10 seconds max (aka Reed900). The latter became popular due entirely to fanon interaction, with tons of fanart, fanfics, and even some full-length fanfilms, while the former is a typical case of canon chemistry that doesn't go anywhere but still has a ginormous following. A lot of klance shippers held hope of their ship being canon (all klance fans will remember the KICK/"klance is canon, king" movement) and in some cases went way too far, while Reed900 fans have never expected canon content for their ship because it's something they made up on their own just because they could. What do these two drastically different fandoms have in common? They ship because it's fun. It brings people together and gives characters a little more life through romance and all the complicated feelings and scenarios that can entail. Both ships are, as you put it, legal, morally right, and about as healthy as two traumatized teens and a dick detective and his new robot partner can get (depending ofc on what fanon you're looking at, but the generally accepted aren't completely toxic). Whether their ship will or ever had hopes to be canon doesn't matter as much as the fandom itself and the content it creates. Shipping, like the canon itself, is for the joy and entertainment of its audience :)

[@lilysiandaza4296]

​@@bug7461seroroki ftw

[@Artthatplaguesyoursoul]

Exactly I ship two characters just because they have extremely sassy attitudes. I am completely aware that they will never get together because they interacted once, nor do I care if they do, it is quite literally just for my own enjoyment. And truely you can quite literally ship whoever just for your enjoyment as long as it is legal. Even though you ship is some may care to a large extent it should only be for your enjoyment and can be for no reason at all.

[@SprinkledCactus]

I personally don't like things in the romance genre, but I eat romance up when it's a subplot! I'm straight as far as I'm aware, but I like all types of romance (straight and lgbtq) and that shows in my oc's. I'm really interested to see your opinions! Also, as someone who hasn't seen Sherlock but has read "a study in scarlet" I ship them too😭

[@caramel3141]

oh hi cactus! didn't know you also like emma lol

[@SprinkledCactus]

@@caramel3141 I love watching emma😊

[@caramel3141]

@@SprinkledCactus samee! she's one of my fav arttuberss ^^

[@Lalalala-xp6jr]

The thing about Claire is that we see her through Carmy's view and he sees her still as a crush. You may like the IDEA of dating someone but when it comes to it actually feelings can change because a crush is your idealized version. So all we've seen is Claire being some amazing no mistakes girlfriend for S2 and S3 with no change from her. I think thats why so many ppl dont like Carmy and her together

[@jadacampbell9331]

I see why the mpdg trope seems to be, but we actually get the idea of her through everyone else's perspective/opinions/viewpoints. Yes, many could not connect with her, but it's more so about what everyone else.was saying. The small moments we get of carmy and Claire together is in his personal scenes, but personal is not exactly first person narration

[@romangrayson6826]

miss when fandom was just literally that, fandom. there was no influence on the media we consumed. we just wrote our fanfic and enjoyed our ships in private.

[@rruyi__]

the indecisive background process is so relatable😭😭

[@s1hr1imp]

actually, funnily enough, when you posted on insta about the characters inspired by famous paintings, some person asked if mona and pearl were girlfriends. the insane amount of butthurt ppl was astounding. "wHy DoEs EvErYtHiNg HaVe To Be GaY" "dO pLaToNiC rElAtIoNsHiPs BeEtWeN gIrLs NoT eXiSt AnYmOrE?" like wow, ppl were really acting like its the end of the world

[@MeMe-ds4pg]

Not to be THAT person, *buuut*... RISE OF THE BRAVE TANGLED DRAGONS-

[@bug7461]

Yes!!! I had a big hiperfixation on that crossover fandom a few months ago and its so silly seeing all the edits of the characters interacting!

[@mangoqribbit8699]

The Bear is why I love shows where, even though they might've not planned to have characters in love, they give the fandom SOMETHING. I love a little fan service where every ship (that's between two consenting adults) is given its little scene. They focus on the main idea of the show while also making (almost) everyone happy! This is my audition for the Lego Monkie Kid advertising team. (Totally didnt say this to tell you the title.... to go watch it)

[@jadacampbell9331]

And who is consenting?

[@mangoqribbit8699]

@@jadacampbell9331 What do you mean?

[@jadacampbell9331]

@mangoqribbit8699 I was asking who is consenting when you say consenting adults. These characters are consenting to dedicate their time and hard work to the restaurant and doesn't look like they will consent to anything. In fact, Sydney might be jumping ship as she should. There is no equal.level of mutual respect, which is why she hasn't signed the contract and likely won't

[@mangoqribbit8699]

@@jadacampbell9331 I'm talking about tv shows in general, not specifically The Bear, I just added that tidbit so nobody thinks I'm a proshipper.

[@leoshBR]

As someone who's not a big fan of romance (I really don't hate it, I'm simply uninterested most of the time), my main gripe is that many stories treat romance as the peak and epitome of a relationship. If two characters are getting closer and closer, it's most likely they'll become a couple (especially if they're of opposite sexes thanks to heteronormativity) as if it's the only natural progression, which I don't think has to be true. People can have deep and real bonds without experiencing sexual and romantic attraction to each other. I do appreciate and enjoy a good written romance and I can get invested in the couple's relationship dynamic, but it's way harder to escape romance than to find it, as an example, I read A LOT of webtoons, most involve romance in a way or another, if it doesn't, they tend to be way less popular. Also people will ship regardless if there's actual romance or not, which I have no problem with, people have their own interpretations, but again feels like too many people see relationships as incomplete or not fully developed if it isn't romantic, or worse, that a character/person needs to have a partner to be happier. I'm a straight (trans) guy, I can relate to romance and attraction, but I wish more times a sucessfull journey didn't involve falling in love along the way when there's so much else to explore and those things keep getting the backseat. I will forever love that Luke stayed single in Star Wars, it's not always you see the hero get a sister instead of a lover lol (Obligatory while I understand people's frustration and feel this way too, I'm not endorsing harrassing creators or fans/shippers who are happy with the story, that's different and just disgusting).

[@bangtanmangos]

Wow you worded this beautifully I agree with everything you said!!!

[@cr0wbs]

this is such a perfect comment!

[@leoshBR]

Oh thank you! I actually feel like I struggle to word stuff and end up saying too much trying to make myself clear lol Glad it ressonated with you guys as well.

[@ohhhhdear]

i love the bear fan art. it’s so hard to come by i’m really happy you made some! personally i’m torn on the romance between the two. as much as they’ve been building it up, they’ve also been tearing it down. they’re always building tension between characters and exploring their individual relationships (friendly, romantic, familial, familial in a friendship way, the works) and i feel like syd and carmy’s relationship could go either way. as much as it would be nice to see them be close friends, it would also be nice to see them together, all depending on how it’s written. [POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!] as it stands in the show now, they could rebuild claire and carmy’s relationship and leave syd and carmy’s bond as platonic. as syd is prepping to quit working with carmy, they could be competitive rivals with tension of all sorts. claire and carmy could fully break it off, leaving him single (since he’s so unbelievably mentally ill and not in the headspace for something as serious as a romantic relationship, which could also be shown to be worked on). or, the two could fully end it and carm ends up with syd. there’s so many different ways it could go and listing them all out i think i’m excited to see what they do, as long as they don’t royally mess up the writing with their choices.

[@ohhhhdear]

oh sorry this turned into a YAP FEST

[@ohhhhdear]

there was so much struggle in the speedpaint and i’ve never related more

[@Feiriiz]

Fun fact of the day!! I got into the bear after I saw your fanart on Tiktok! Idk if it was your first fanart but I love it sm and Sydcarmy is a couple I truly see happening if they were to take a chance. With some therapy ofc LMAO

[@emmasaurt]

@@Feiriiz REALLY LMAO that’s funny

[@ellbell_88]

people get so angry over sydcarmy and i will never understand why… they really are cute at the end of the day disregarding the ‘lack of’ male/female platonic relationships or what the writers say because its just a ship. i honestly think it would work out either way with therapy involved

[@marocelot]

13:36 the jiafei scream caught me off guard lmao

[@ridley1230]

It probably has to do with me being aroace, but romance in media is rarely something I look for in media. I’ll pick up a romance series or do some shipping but you have to make me really invested in the characters first. Like as long as the relationship doesn’t get in the way of a character’s arc or there’s a potential of a relationship leading to more interesting things, then yeah, it would be cool if they got together. However, if the relationship brings their arc or the entire story to a screeching halt, absolutely not. Hope I explained that well.

[@mer_acle8101]

I always feel like such a cliché when I do this but I am aroace too and I agree :D

[@torielah]

I think the biggest problem with the perception of love and romance, its that in media they take out entirely the intimacy from friendships, the table scene remember me of being hold by my best friend, the first time i cried my eyes out in front of anyone, its that kind of love full of intimacy, words reassuring you and hands cherishing your own. And, surprising no one, i lot of people asked if we are dating, and when I say “a lot of people” i mean most of the people that perceived us. I really really liked this video! Actually all your videos are very fun to watch, you have this comfortable energy, something like that, and I really enjoy! (sorry if my english is lil funny, its not my native language ♡( ◡‿◡ ) )

[@msandrews87]

This was my first time watching your video and i loved it. To me, it definitely feels like a dog whistle. "No they could never be together, they're the same person, it's like a student and a teacher, men and women can be friends" meanwhile those same people say "i like syd and Marcus together, Claire and Carmy are endgame". When we've only seen Claire like 3 times and no actual build up was put into the show. Syd has shown no actual intetests in marcus other than quitting together and being a human being to him when his mom died. It gives, we can fathom the process of a white man organically desiring a black woman. Ignoring the chemistry of the under the table scene and the alleyway panic attack. Hell even the apt scenes. I just feel all the people that just immediately shut down the thought have a bias whether they realize it or not

[@lilacfields]

right they instantly tell on themselves. how is it weird to ship syd and carmy but okay to ship syd and marcus or carmy and claire. this happens with so many interracial couples in media (specifically with black women) for example in the Walking Dead. people were being insistent that they wouldn’t get together or that there was no chemistry and they wouldn’t work. like please we all know why y’all don’t want them together let’s not beat around the bush

[@basilwyrm]

As someone who is married, and loves a good love story- my relationship with my husband is not the only intimate one I have. My best friend and I have moments like the table one about once a year or every other year, we've been besties for 14 years. I love *good characters and good character development,* be that romantic or otherwise. A good story is a good story, with weight and substance.

[@prismspheres]

as someone said below, i like romance but as a subplot. like i will eat it up like its a four course dessert and i haven't eaten in a year if its done well or the actors have chemistry or a interesting dynamic. (ex. captain swan from ouat who have lot of chemistry and an interesting dynamic that elevates the characters imo). however i don't find myself very interested in media mainly geared towards romance. despite this though i'm a huge shipper and will die on my select few hills lol!

[@emmasaurt]

VAILD! i find myself liking things with the romance genre if they’re written well but a slow burn going across many seasons of a show is MWAH

[@deviousfatestudio]

I say "we need more platonic relationships" but mostly in the YA/kid stories because A) I'm AroAce and B) Friend groups are important. I think romantic relationships are important and i love them but when they are the SOLE force pushing the story, motives, plot, etc. Then no. I want to know about the characters and their friends, their family,. FOUND FAMILY. I JUST WANT MORE FOUND FAMILY.

[@utatanepikoV5]

17:28 i really like the fish and tomatoes in the background here !

[@funkle420.]

this piece is so good!! i really like the idea of carmy and syd being romantic, but after season 3 i think it's clear carmy needs to work on himself a lot before he dates anyone again. I think they'd work best a few years down the line, hopefully when things are less heated. Seeing how stressed and unhappy syd was this season, i just want her to be happy and at peace! hopefully nat lends carmy her audiobook of adult children of emotionally immature parents lol (i think that was what she was listening to in the birth episode, that or the body keeps the score)

[@marl3ymarl3y86]

How I feel seated to watch this knowing I’ve never watched the Bear except at the zoo

[@darkdream1469]

😂😂😂

[@alannaemery1763]

I feel like I agree with the sentiment that I just want to see syd and Carmy interact more in general, especially after last szn whether that be romantically or platonic. That being said I don’t think a lot of people are putting enough emphasis in the convo on black women love interest representation, and I would argue that the representation of that is more important than to see a male and female platonic relationship. Syd is black and you can’t separate that from her character or your argument. People seem to care so much about representation in some areas(white lgbt) but when poc are added straight or not there is less advocation. No shade but for these characters specifically it will never just be about wanting to see a male female platonic relationship, it’s not that simple.

[@literallywallacewells]

okay i'm sorry i saw supernatural for 2 seconds and started tweaking... i love that show an unhealthy amount

[@AnnabelleMay.]

LMAO

[@AnnabelleMay.]

Me with good omens fr

[@literallywallacewells]

@@AnnabelleMay. STOP i’ve been meaning to watch it 🫡

[@dizzyizzie10]

babe wake up emma posted!!!!

[@drawingwithcass6998]

IM UP

[@lovebirdwillingten]

BUT ITS 3AM 😔

[@alxD-ayy]

WE UP!! 🗣⁉️⁉️

[@wolfy1603]

She Back!!! And with Romance!!❤

[@Nugget66696]

Omg I was SOOOOO HAPPY WHEN I SAW ONE OF MY FAVORITE SHOWS BEING MENTIONED BY MY FAV YT ARTIST!! I am also good either way with the ship as i feel like AFTER carmy can get some therapy consistently he could possibly be ok with Sydney but I ALSO REALLY LOVE THEIR FRIENDSHIP DYNAMIC

[@yoursalwaysliyah]

what pisses me off the most is when people imply sydney has more chemistry with richie than carmy.

[@itsalladream5559]

What!? Thats some heavy enemies-to-lovers brainrot😂. He's *way* too old and jaded for her!!

[@aloser8407]

I enjoy video essays so dearly, i love yours because your art is so enjoyable and i lovelove lovveeee topics like this, i find video essays super helpful for my own writing

[@minervajones2585]

Am I the only one who wants to see them in a situationship…? Like, even is they’re not romantically compatible, what about sexually? Even just a little bit…? Shiiiit, I can see it! Lol As someone who’s been in a situationship w/ their soul mate, but didn’t end up dating them. Sydney and Carmy feel VERY familiar! LOL

[@riverbandit2138]

I’m in the middle as well when it comes to shipping. I do it myself and I’m fine if the ship I enjoy doesn’t develop in a show I enjoy. But, if people are gonna do romance, at least do it well. Don’t just start a relationship and call it a day. Such as… (spoilers for Brooklynn 99 season 3) when Jake and Amy get together. I was really excited because the writers did a great job implementing small moments of chemistry between the two characters, where I enjoyed seeing the two enjoy their time together. It was fun! And it was awesome when they finally started dating, but after that I felt like the sparks were sorta gone. Sure they talked about how they loved each other and it was acknowledged that they were in a romantic relationship repeatedly, but it was missing the small moments of chemistry. The moments where they just sorta enjoy their time together and are on the same wavelength and you just seem them naturally exist together. Just because you started a romantic relationship between two characters doesn’t mean the work is done and people are happy. You gotta keep working on it and keep the train going with fuel, much like a real romantic relationship.

[@avangarde2200]

iZombie has so many great platonic friendships but they also work as a polycule between Ravi+Major+Liv+Peyton 🤭

[@hanabelle684]

I've been making a story about basically an investigator club with four girls. Gemma, the sporty one. Harper, the creepy one, Kate, the nervous wreck, and the club leader, Janet. Basically the three girls all have a crush on Janet and get competitive on who will take Janet's heart. I originally dropped this story cause I didn't want to be known as "a basic writer" or smth. But now, I am starting to pick it up again because of this video. Thank you for inspiring me to write my beloved story again. Luv u ♡

[@darblez]

doki doki literature club vibes

[@hanabelle684]

@@darblez lol

[@sashaspearl]

SHADOW AND BONE MENTION 😱😱🥶😎 also please give the bella and charlie re-design 🥺

[@sunfloraanddayses7647]

I personally don't have a problem with shipping - I am a shipper myself and can often create ships in media that aren't meant to have them simply because I enjoy a good romance. What I do have a problem with is when people take the shipping too far and will start bashing the creators and start bashing each other. My general rule on things is that as long as it isn't hurting anyone, enjoy what you enjoy. When shipping gets taken too far, people start getting hurt. If you enjoy a ship, that's great. If you think they're platonic, that's fine too. You have every right to enjoy what you enjoy. Just, at the end of the day, don't hurt people because they have a different viewpoint than you and don't go after the creators because they aren't going the route you want.

[@yiguei]

I can relate so much to the struggle with the background lmao

[@mer_acle8101]

I love how you're talking about how it's getting less heteronomrative and showing Kaz and Inej, like YES they are the gayest straight couple I agree 1000% edit: On the topic at hand, personally I just prefer platonic relationships between characters, esp female/male. I don't mind characters dating, my characters occasionally do that too, as long as it doesn't feel like "your characters have a good relationships and are a man and woman? Dang better pair those spares" I haven't seen The Bear but if the characters work platonically, why not leave them that way? (even though the audio in that scene was suggestive for sure) I know it's a personal thing for me in particular because when I dealt with platonic heartbreak before I was asked "did you maybe have feelings for him" so. so. many. times. And like, no, deal with it, I am falling apart because of someone I would never want to kiss, is that so hard to believe? A show doing that would probably not make a real life difference societally, but I'm often glad if things are played platonically (or gayly, that's fine too, immediately more interesting than the straight default ship)

[@BlueOnMars]

We all need to let people enjoy things 😭😭

[@bibikawa1945]

I'm not really seeing any comments about it but romance is also very while centric, it is really rare to have a black woman or women as a love interest in romance, whether that'd be a queer relationship or straight relationship. The has changed, but REALLY a little but. It definitely needs attention whem talking abiut romance genre flaws

[@TamiaTheNerd]

Funny enough, I think the best pairings/ ships/ relationships are the ones rooted in a deep friendship. The romance is so much more compelling when they actually care for each other (without romantic / s*xual intentions) and instead help each other grow. I think that’s why I always liked ships like Kataang, Klance, and even Jack and Rose because their foundation is rooted in friendship and growth. They need each other, not just romantically.

[@wweeeeeeooooo]

tbh, sydcarmmy is riddlebat in a different font. People ship riddlebat, but people will always find someway to bunk that ship down. Same with Sydcarmy.

[@eztrix0342]

This video was super interesting and oddly specific to me haha! Both The Bear and Xfiles have always been fixations of mine, so it was awesome to hear you talk about them; cause not a lot of creators I like do. So many fandoms have a habit of demonizing ships, both LGBTQ and hetero, that they don't agree with; which is sad because I have a lot of fun gushing over fictional couples I enjoy. It's interesting in cases where it affects both the fandom and creator. I personally only view sydcarmy as platonic, but everyone interprets media differently and there's no shame as long as its its not hurting anyone(and the ship is legal). I typially hate forced romance in shows/movies but ughhh mulder and scully's relationship makes me weak lmao(I love them). I'd love to hear you talk more about them!

[@alexdoesart43]

Ain't no way he's like 35 and she's 22... she is so coded as his underling and the fact that he has a lot of control over her, job wise and mentally. Ick! Ick! Ick!!!

[@discopidgeon9976]

While you were talking, I noticed your language in relation to friendship and romance- you implied that a romantic relationship developing between Sydney and Carmy was an elevation or something “more than” what they already had. As an aromantic person, I always see this EVERYWHERE. Many people believe that friendships can’t be intimate, and that romance is a “logical and obvious next step” for any deeply invested relationship. It’s okay to view a relationship like Sydney and Carmy’s as romantic, but platonic bonds can be like that as well! There is no strict definition describing what romance and friendship is.

[@discopidgeon9976]

I was yapping a bit here, but this is just one of the reasons I feel that characters are so religiously shipped and speculated on. I mean no hate with this, I’m just observing!

[@emmasaurt]

When i say more than I am mostly implying physical intimacy, friendships can have that too of course, And im not trying to devalue platonic relationships at all that was not my intention, more doesn’t always= better, there’s different kinds of intimacy emotionally or physically and their value shouldn’t be undermined no matter what. I’m very sorry for my wording Ill definitely keep this in mind in the future

[@discopidgeon9976]

@@emmasaurt Thank you! I love your new avatar and style of your videos btw

[@geekaburns4727]

As an aroace person, I do crave more platonic male/female relationships in media, and it’s always something I will advocate for. Romance is considered a universally felt feeling and it can be kind of alienating for those who don’t feel that way quite so easy or at all. It’s hard seeing what could be a beautiful male/female friendship turn into a romance pretty much every single time, often seemingly (NOT ALL THE TIME THO) just because they’re both of the opposite sex. HOWEVER. I also strongly believe that people should really just ship whoever they want, canon relationship or no (as long as the characters are both similar ages/just isn’t proship) I have no problem with individual ships. Everyone is free to interpret any given fictional relationship however they want, there is no right answer anyway. ❤ That’s what fictional media is for. It’s an art, art is meant to be interpreted different ways by everyone who views it. :)

[@driftingnight]

sydcarmy my beloveds. honestly, showrunners not intending to pursue a ship has never stopped me from shipping them. i adore their understanding of eachother and i sincerely hope that anyone who takes issue with sydney’s race gets the help they need.

[@HowIndecisivehuu]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one in defense of romance cause I love love LOVE it and I eat it up so much, but book romance is something I love too!! Like the book “The Upside Of Falling” it was hated on since “it’s from wattpad” but I really love the book and the characters, loved the video Emma, keep being amazing 💛

[@HaleCrow]

My biggest problem with the ship is people can’t seem to grasp that, even tho shipping is completely fine, that EXPECTING the show to actually put them together or else it’s “badly written” is delusional. People will only talk about their relationship that it clouds their judgment on everything else that’s happening in the story. Carmy being less patient with Syd isn’t a personal attack on shippers, it’s how the story is SUPPOSE to go. The show is about Carmy’s declining mental health and those he surrounds himself with, Syd is not the only person he cares about. Carmy being more blunt and rude in season 3 is Carmy getting worse with his mental state. Idk wut people expected after how season 2 ended, but it’s just disappointing to see people getting so worked up and fixated on only THEIR relationship that people no longer seem to take any care into what the writing is rlly focusing on and criticizing certain creative decisions about certain plot points through the lense of being a sydcarmy shipper. People only caring about a ship compared to the plot or other characters isn’t new of course, I just find it particularly upsetting in this case because the show is genuinely rlly good, and seeing lukewarm takes on how specific scenes SHOULD go to fulfill sydcarmy endgame is just more prevalent in The Bear fandom for some reason- Shipping should always be fun, and there is no harm in wanting to see if it’ll become canon, I just hate that it’s become personal for some people-

[@murdocsmurcock]

Your voice is such a sweet tone, I can peacefully listen to you ramble like I listen to calm music while I draw.

[@luverlyjay6340]

great video, GORGEOUS ART, our opinions r really neck n neck, I just love Carmy and Sydney period and I feel like we don't get enough of them, whether they stay platonic or the writers discover a relationship, I'm all for it. I feel like we never see them talk to eachother enough, and when they do like in this season, they're not saying what they really feel. So here's to more honesty and more scenes period w them together !

[@Kymddd3753]

Some of my friends told me tht I have too many straight ocs but I only do that because I and a straight cis women so I relate and have more interest in those relationships. I still engage with lgbtq relationships but not often so i just love romance in general and try to watch whatever i can of it.😭

[@M1nus_p]

this is the first time i saw 3d Emma. i just screamed [happily.]

[@AijanKurbanova]

The main reason I think Carmy and Sydney arent romantic is because they are both very dedicated for the restaurant and handle communication very professionally.

[@maninanikittycat4238]

I had no idea what The Bear was until the new season dropped

[@guilemoss]

i'm pretty into the "they're just friends" train, but i totally agree!! let people have fun!! i personally interpreted them to be very far apart in age (considering the difference in experience, but maybe also cause ayo just looks very young) so i just never looked at them that way since the beginning of the show. maybe that also influenced the fact that i do like claire's character... i really liked that she's kind of seen through rose colored glasses, because we're seeing her through carmy's eyes! i assumed we would get more character development for her getting into season 3, but she kind of disappeared?? at least until the episode i'm in, i haven't finished it yet. anyways, people should get to ship whoever they want as long as it's consensual

[@screamingcatwithmic]

EMMMMAAAAA DROP THE CHARLIE. AND BELLA REDESIGN...... AND MY LIFE IS YOURSSSS!!!!!!!!!

[@isabellac1185]

i have yet to watch s3 but in watching the Bear s1, one of my favorite aspects was the void of romance. BUT i have always seen SydCarm as a slow burn and was immediately put off at the introduction of Clare in s2. i would love it to get to the point of SydCarm happening

[@AstronomicalJelly]

my personal thoughts is that i wish people explored initimate relationnships in ways other than romantic. there's still this prevelant idea that romance is the highest form of love, and every relationship that has a specific level of intimacy just HAS to mean it's romantic because "there's no way they're just friends!" but i think in many cases a relationship would actually be more MORE interesting if it was platonic or otherwise non-romantic, and making it such would just make fit the mold in a less interesting way. and i have to say i do actually like romance a lot sometimes, it's just that it's VERY rare i see a platonic relationship that doesn't get interpreted as romantic, and sure i can't control how people think of it but i do wish people would open their minds to the idea of non-romantic intimacy and in turn not get mad when someone doesn't ship something bc i've definitely seen that happen lol (also i do acknowledge that for interracial and queer ships there is definitely a bias when ppl pull the "why cant they just be friends?" card and i am not about that, this isn't about any specific ship but rather a general statement of how dynamics are precived)

[@cherrymadi]

You know I had no idea that people ship carmy x syd until recently, and I never really understood why until I watched this video! I really enjoyed how you explained your perspective, even though personally I still like seeing them as platonic friends. However, I do really agree with you on the whole Claire Bear thing, I was so confused when they added her in with basically no back story except being a love interest, like???? 😭 I was interested in her character at first because the way they would talk about her in the show really made it seem like they were going to dig into her story, but they didn’t so I am definitely a bit unsure with that pairing because it seems forced in a way. I really do understand both sides and their ship perspectives but I think it’s very important to just respect each other as a whole because shipping culture can be soooo toxic for no reason at all especially over the littlest of things 😓.. thanks for this video girl, ily & ur art 😭🫶

[@lavndvrrart]

Maybe its because I'm ace, but I am just sick of everything being romantic. There are SO many important relationships and some are even more important than romantic ones but they are always overshadowed by shipping.

[@officialbarilla3124]

Every time Claire shows up on screen I sigh. The show can have any romance with anyone, that's not why I'm watching it. But Claire herself makes my blood boil. The actress is great and it's not her fault that the character is a copy of every female love interest with the most lukewarm "backstory" in an attempt to add a lazy dimension to the character. I have heard her monologue about little Jimmy breaking his arm so many times it's not even funny. She's a failed manic pixie dream girl who's meant to look pretty and distract Carmy. If she had literally anything interesting and not stereotypical about her I might actually like her but it makes me want Syd and Carmy to get together even more. At least Syd can actually stand on her own as a character and has actual tension with Carmy.

[@Prøgz_2]

I WILL EAT ALL OF THE BOOKS

[@sleepy.timaeus.arts.]

ur art of them is so cute!

[@coffeecaku3281]

Just woke up and glad this is fresh! My personal take into this, I enjoy romance. I'm a very romantic silly person but I don't entirely make it a serious thing. I prefer to switch around what I ship and like, occasionally making huge poly ships that can be like 6 people if I really don't care and just want smooching. But it is frustrating to see the way... people get so hung up on it. In an example of fighting other people, forcing people to take your same views on a certain people, insulting other ships. People tend to forget that as much as people like to ship, most of the time it's still never going to be Canon and that should be OKAY. That's the fun part of being a fan. Another frustration is the rather white able bodied focus on characters even when there are gay ships. Like- when anyone of color is involved it HAS to be with a white person in some way then it becomes the main half of the damn ship. Especially so... harsh on the POC character if they turn out to be mean in the slightest of ways or it involves their development.

[@Littleghostman4]

the struggle with the background in the speed paint is so real

[@Sofia-wz5bv]

Shipping culture does mostly force the author to make the both characters together. One example I see is keeper of the lost cities, Sophie and Keefe (two characters that had MAJOR chemistry) ended up being together (I'm not complaining much since I'm a shiper) but I think Shannon Messaged (the author) was "forced" to do it cuz of the fans MAJOR demands, I truly believe that Shannon wanted Sophie to get with Fitz (another character) but had to change plans. ANYWAYS I haven't watched The bear yet but after the "table scene) I kinda ship them😫😫🔪🔪

[@mak1moee]

WAKE UP EMMA POSTED 🗣️🗣️ I LIVE FOR YOUR ARTT

[@hashirabeebee-hv3fu]

I’ve been kinda scared away from shipping ANY characters (regardless of gender) because I was so put off by the shipping wars and got really disgusted, as people focused more on that than the plot of the story, but! Even I think they’d be a cute couple, tbh, idc if they stay friends or date, cuz they’re just so good together!

[@cr0wbs]

i agree

[@reallysuperbad]

i have not watched the bear yet but oh my god if someone looked at me the way carmy looks at syd id start asking what we were 😭

[@Ferrist1]

The showrunners are gaslighting the heck out of their audience. No one was thinking about Carmy even having a romance until they started signifying in the storyline.

[@Billiesbossanovaaa]

emma is love you so much i get so excited when you post i love you please dont die

[@ch0colatec0ff33]

As a lesbian ace women, I'm always rooting for the sweet, emotionally imamate moments that speak beyond the stereotype of a romance story. IE: "Man like women. Women do not like. Man force anyway. Its extremely sexual and shallow beyond that. The end." Its frustrating to see a potential strong relationship between women, only for it to be sidelined for a shallow relationship with a man, or have it strictly for the male gaze, where it is hyper sexualized. Even seeing a strong, powerful relationship between a man and woman is what I'm hoping for. There doesn't need to be a kiss for it to be a true bond. give me SOMETHING more than a shallow make out out scene and basically zero chemistry LET MY LADIES BE WITH LADIES

[@thebearlover23]

I really really love this video as a pro sydcarmy. Often ppl misjudge the reason this ship is liked and cite it to just wanting romance (which I so love) and ignore why the characters could actually he a great pair. I hope that this is a slow burn that will all be uncovered in due course haha, but until then I always have fancies lol

[@Skeleetoon_Kid]

OH MY GOSH NEW EMMA IPLOAD YEEAAH

[@moptop4355]

As far as Syd and Carmy are concerned, I do see the chemistry between them and I sensed some very intentional open ended scenes that were placed to leave the door open for something romantic to develop. However, I don’t see that being a major plot point, nor do I see it happening for a while. I’m big fan of subtle stolen moments and slow burns that are so slow you’re barely aware that it’s building instead of grand romantic gestures. I actually immediately got the sense that they would organically acknowledge a possible attraction between them way further down line, but maybe not necessarily act on it. Or if they did act on it, it would happen for a brief period of time when they are both in slightly better places in their lives, yet still end the show with them ultimately amicably going their separate ways. Something sort of akin to La La Lands couple arc. They are also leaning towards them being on equal footing/positions. So I don’t really know if the power dynamics will be much of an issue.

[@eli.thevirtualvillain]

i found your channel 2 days ago and i’ve been binging all your vids!! i love your style, your humor and how much work you put into your videos. keep up the amazing work !! 🤍

[@cr33py_f1sh2]

Wake up bae Emma posted

[@MarieArtsy2]

BBC Sherlock mention in 2024 hello ?? I have been in the Sherlock Holmes fandom for almost 2 years and people still fight over if they should be together or not and it’s crazy, and this discussion about shipping in general is so valued that sometimes people even forget the whole plot, not only in Sherlock but a bunch of other shows, gay or not. Romance is such a complex thing to write out and I am so happy to see you talk about it, representation in different relationships, platonic and romantic, is so important and it’s so annoying when the writers push a romance (by exemple via queerbating) or make a romance but end up being flat and only exist for the romance and nothing else (no emotions, no character growth,etc) Renting a little more about Sherlock, people have been shipping Johnlock WAYY before the bbc adaptation was made because of its core : in the original stories of sir Artur Conan dole there were few yet powerful moments of Sherlock and john bonding that can easily interpreted into something more then only platonic. If you read closely you can even notice how much John Watson talk and describe Sherlock’s hands, character descriptions is important but John as described Sherlock’s hand a total of 19 times within the canon, and trust me it’s actually quite a lot especially that those descriptions are weirdly detailed… John Watson had somewhat of an obsession since the very beginning and fans noticed that. Now today we have lots and lots of different adaptations featuring those characters, yet non of them actually commited to the idea of a romantic relationship, but why ? Mostly because since it is such a long lived franchise writers are kind of scared to change up the recipe since in the original stories no romance was involved or very very little (via johns wife) and that committing to write a gay relationship between such beloved characters who for years as been classified as best friends can be very very scary. But even then, after more the a hundred years of existence, people still ship them, and in fact for a very good reason especially after the release of bbc Sherlock and now, the most recent Sherlock Holmes adaptation, Sherlock and co. People want it, and I am chill with it, in fact, I think it’s a very interesting take on their relationship (and I’m going to be honest friends to lovers is my favorite trope) Romance is complex and you shouldn’t judge anyone for their personal preferences in romance, in media or in real life (expect if it’s illegal but you should know that) and I hope that in the future people will be more open about it (and especially in the Sherlock fandom, some people need to chill out-)

[@reinfardt]

i love how you self sona's 3d, very cute

[@deesrat6892]

ITS A GOOD DAY WHEN EMMA POSTS ‼‼🗣🗣

[@a.exotiic]

i literally absolutely love this channel 🥲

[@Azr3na]

Ive been rewatching Star vs the Forces of Evil recently and the romantic plots 😭😭 I wish they were handled better

[@edwater.3]

BABE WAKE UP EMMA POSTED!!! AHHH MY FAV ART KZbinR IS BACK >V

[@dontlookatme6395]

6:32 it's giving queer baiting but for straight ppl, this is the kind of relationship often portrayed in media between 2 same sex friends that is SO romantically coded but isnt canon, but they're doing it to a straight couple which is both amazing and so strange 😭 like im 1 o/ those ppl who wishes there was more boy/girl friendships in media (cuz usually those pairings always turn into couples, and the romance is typically cheap) but the lighting and framing of this scene is crazy... never watched this show btw

[@AstronomicalJelly]

my personal thoughts is that i wish people explored initimate relationnships in ways other than romantic. there's still this prevelant idea that romance is the highest form of love, and every relationship that has a specific level of intimacy just HAS to mean it's romantic because "there's no way they're just friends!" but i think in many cases a relationship would actually be more MORE interesting if it was platonic or otherwise non-romantic, and making it such would just make fit the mold. i will say i do actually like romance sometimes, it's just that it's VERY rare i see a platonic relationship that doesn't get interpreted as romantic, and sure i can't control how people think of it but i do wish people would open their minds to the idea of non-romantic intimacy and in turn not get mad when someone doesn't ship something bc i've definitely seen that happen lol (also i do acknowledge that for interracial and queer ships there is definitely a bias when ppl pull the "why cant they just be friends?" card and i am not about it, this isn't about any specific ship but rather a general statement of how dynamics are precived)