THE PERFECT DJENTLEMAN! (Misha Mansoor of Periphery interview)

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

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[@GabiBrooks]

More interviews like this one, please!

[@MetaMasculine1]

Your meme game is on point.

[@MetaMasculine1]

I've always thought Misha seemed like such a chill dude in a genre that often takes itself way too seriously. That's definitely the vibe I get from this interview as well. Thanks for the fun conversation guys.

[@doctajuice]

The Rick beato video where he chats with Misha, tosin abasi, and Tim Henson is a great one to watch. All 3 of those dudes are super chill and humble like they're not complete gods on guitar

[@anthonychrismignella]

@@doctajuice yeah that's a good one too!! Just saw it the other day. Rick Beato is awesome.

[@cornela1]

These dudes named songs and albums after memes, song about hating ketchup (scarlett lol), 'this time is personal','djent is not a genre', the last sound you hear on their latest album is the guitarist cheekily saying 'suck my balls'. Periphery is awesome cause they definitely vibe with and fuck around with all the goofiness around the genre

[@thaddeusk]

@@cornela1 I don't think Scarlet is literally about hating ketchup, but it made for a fun video. I think it's more about avoiding giving in to hate, anger, and revenge and embracing forgiveness instead. Revenge might be the easier way to make you feel better, but you stain yourself at the same time.

[@RichardJanvrinMusic]

Thank you for this podcast, Finn. Not only did I learn a lot, but after learning so much about this djentleman, I all of a sudden have an engineering degree

[@LONGname46]

Engineering degree and a business major too lmao

[@Maxylobes]

The question at 28:58, and Misha's explanation all the way to 36:24 was probably one of my favorite things about this interview. I've looked up to Misha and his musical journey since the late 2000's Bulb Demos, and hearing the way he explained his "feeling of purpose" with the chance to work a job he didn't hate, while being able to spend his free time chasing his musical dreams, was really nice to hear at this moment in my life.

[@wavewithus4081]

Yeah great highlights! I also love the part immediately afterwards where he talks about 'demo-itis' and how you often lose a 'vibe' or 'energy' when rerecording (old) demoes. That dissapointment after hearing the mixed result thats objectively better but subjectively worse somehow lol. I struggle with that a lot too

[@bushleague3472]

The world is full of musicians with only a fraction of Misha's tallent, who take themeselves far more seriously.

[@tobyking625]

I wish Misha would share more of his philosophical ponderings. It would be cool if Misha and Tosin did a one time podcast or a twice a year sit down chat and just ruminate on the universe.

[@NOTSparkyPants]

The reflection on not wanting to change the past because it could lead to an entirely different present, rang so hard for me. Especially as I now feel like I'm in a good spot.

[@Ottophil]

Its the plot to so many movies

[@adamloftin9785]

Such a great conversation. Misha is always interesting to listen to, but Finn's deep understanding of these subjects and friendship with Misha and Periphery make this top notch.

[@vyacheslavkhristolyubov413]

It’s very cool that both you and Misha have this business oriented mind which is so much more helpful for young musicians than discussing a recipe of the perfect riff salad

[@pixelhotdish]

I love the conversation, I can really empathize with a lot of his notes about watching friends all going to college being passionate about a range of different fields, only for all of us to land in the same call centers, or coffee shops. I went for marketing, and digital design, and while I would eventually land a decent job that pays okay... its took about a decade of building a network of local artists to find a spot that opened up. Thankfully, it has helped having bands like Periphery (and all those in that same prog-metal circle) to get me through some rough times. Nice work Finn!

[@QuincyKane]

Such a valuable conversation; a lot to learn from here!

[@WaitIKnow]

Great episode. Loved the bits about the myspace scene, music as a business and hearing more about the early years of Periphery.

[@Nestorglass]

I smiled the moment I saw this uploaded. Love your choice on guests for this podcast Finn.

[@PiT0nZo]

Love Periphery and their journey. I first saw them with Fair to Midland in NYC a long time ago. I have a signed shirt from all of them from one of their first merch drops.

[@Helluvabutl3r]

Fair to midland is so good too

[@kamran8451]

My two favorite people on a podcast! Thanks for doing this interview Finn

[@Deadsweater]

I was very inspired by everyone Misha listed at 25:01. Such a great moment in time for home production in progressive music. I feel like Ben Sharp of Cloudkicker deserves an honorable mention as well. The production quality and writing on "The Discovery" and "Beacons" was insane considering the minimal amount of hardware and plugins used on those albums.

[@djentrification1631]

I would be ecstatic if he made a return to the beacons sound. Beacons is a goddamn masterpiece

[@Chris-gr2dh]

Was thinking the same thing. Cloudkicker and then later the early Plini stuff was really influential.

[@ryancrosby5]

Cloudkicker and bulb were a pretty massive part of my musical journey around those years.

[@raviolibusiness]

him saying that he can always make time for you was so sweet 🥺

[@fernandosepulveda7297]

He's such a swell guy

[@majesticpbjcat7707]

"now kith..."

[@yourself88xbl]

Misha needs his own podcast!!!!

[@No-sr5fb]

Great conversation as always, I love how a talk centered around music branches out on other aspects like business. Its easy to overlook that side of things but can have such a make or break impact

[@armourofcontempt]

What a smooth interview. Didn't think I'd enjoy this as much as I have.

[@dronesmartacademy]

Really good point about creating scarcity when touring. I am going to see Periphery tomorrow night in London. I have not been to a live show in over 10 years but have made a special effort to go and see Periphery as I know it may well be another 5 years before they come back if at all. Smart guys

[@pzuliomaccavellion9711]

Misha has been pretty up front honest, right from the start! And his youtube recording tips videos are, again, so honest but also genuinely amazing! I've seen forums discussing Periphery solo's where Misha or Jake have appeared mid forum to say exactly what they did! I'm old enough to be his dad!..and have total respect! He's the real deal!

[@elblopex]

My and my band used to record rehersals with a cell phone. Then we would complain the drums didn't have the same vibe when recorded properly. Keeping the energy and the magic going is one of the most important things in music. Great interview!!!

[@kevinneace9008]

In addition to being one of my favorite overall musicians, I really appreciate what Misha and the rest of the Periphery/3dot guys are doing in bringing bands that they like and want to promote into 3dot. Without their cosign, I don't know that I would have heard of bands like Destrage, Astronoid, Crooked Royals, Boundaries, and Infinity Shred. Now I'm a fan of all of them, and it's thanks to Misha!

[@Anouyz]

I hope tosin understands that the philosophy provided without words in the Animals as Leaders debut shines through. very thought provoking music.

[@anthonychrismignella]

Dude!! YES!! Misha you're the man!!

[@FullCampColby]

One if the best shows I've ever seen was Intervals , The contortionist and Periphery at the Exit/Inn Nashville. If only I could go back and watch that show again ...

[@BJPriceMusic]

Completely agree. That same lineup also with Intervals in Illinois was insane. Tickets were crazy cheap and if was a small venue. So badass.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Misha is the perfect dude for a dude like me who likes cars and heavy music. His appearances on the TST podcast are excellent as well.

[@failuretolaunchdrums]

Great episode. Thank you both!

[@how_to_play_guitar_tabs]

I'm gonna release my first solo EP next month and I really appreciate what you said, cause I need someone is already inside to guide my, thanks.

[@purplerain151]

Dropping your first EP is still the biggest accomplishment a musician can achieve

[@tylerhackner9731]

Love your interviews

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you!

[@ijustlovemetal]

Great conversation! I hope you could do Marc Okubo from Veil Of Maya next time.

[@thehermanli]

tbt to when i knew Misha as "Bulb" happy to see his progression over the last 15+ years.

[@yourself88xbl]

That section on demoing and rerecording was such a cool topic of discussion. I used to find myself romanticizing the idea of getting better recorded better mixed versions of my favorite albums and then there were some popular scenarios where it happened and I realized how important all that was to giving a particular character.

[@Ottophil]

“Better” isnt always actually better

[@alrecks619]

it's sonically better, but the vibe is usually going to be worse.

[@japmokiddy6848]

Thank you Finn for asking great questions and for having amazing knowledge of the music scene from way back when. The knowledge gained from your conversation with Misha has definitely made me love and enjoy Periphery and Bulb even more (Which I never knew could be possible as they're already my favorite band) Thank you Misha for always being humble and for being an amazing inspiration to many, even though it must've been difficult to first accept. You will definitely go down in the history books as a guitar legend. . . and an amazing businessman/musician.

[@walpurgisnacht9234]

Everytime I listen to Misha speak I walk away with a lot of new things to think about and consider. 🙏Thanks man.

[@lout9231]

AHAHAH THE INTERVIEW WE HAVE ALL BEEN ASKING FOR fair play

[@CodyCleggMusic]

Never heard anyone talking about this demo and re-recording thing before somehow, but this is SO real. I felt so seen by this conversation hahaha. It's so weird when you try to recapture that vibe and it's just so different when you try and "perfect" it. Ultimately I usually like the re-recorded version better, but sometimes it definitely feels like you lost something along the way. It's all just part of the process though.

[@DougGoobanko]

"It doesn't matter if you get it or not, but it's just fun to chase something". This is what makes you one of the greats man 👌

[@StampedePressUK]

Great video and well balanced/rounded discussion about record labels etc.

[@StampedePressUK]

All of this 👌solid

[@phylazen5649]

I remember back in 08 or 09, i was a junior in high school and Periphery added me on myspace. Hadn't listened to them before but i fell in love and as a fan of canadian deathcore it was right up my alley rhythm wise. Wasn't til a couple months later i discovered his SoundClick account and found the song Buttersnips. I used to drive my non-driving friends crazy listening to that shit on the way to computer class. I busted the speakers in my volvo 940 listening to specifically Bulb solo stuff. This interview is answering so many questions i had over a decade ago. I was a senior when the self titled album dropped and it became my whole personality. Adam Nolly GetGood and Sikth both shaped my perception of what progressive modern metal should sound like at the time. I think misha might have been 25 when i found them cuz he was working at an office supply store and always said, "Don't be frivoulous with your money and you too can afford an ENGL tube head."

[@cesaralbertorayascastillo9684]

I love the disagreement between Finn and Misha on whether Periphery is ripping off Meshuggah! It's super funny to watch. What do you guys think? Can you perceive Meshuggah's influence in Periphery's music? I personally think that Misha does bring up some of that Meshuggaesque sound, but the rest of the members do bring their own styles to the table.

[@emmywillow6599]

the first record i think sounds like straight meshuggah, but later on they developed a more distinct sound. Misha as a player is very meshuggah-ish, his solos also sound like thordental solos, but mark and jake give things their own energy.

[@underscoreisnotvalid]

26:00 hell yes that fellsilent demo rules!!! i miss them. tesseract and monuments just don't cut it compared to fellsilent

[@Smomeh]

Misha's staying tech, wise choice sir! New singles are dope, hope to catch you guys live soon.

[@JoeJohnson0515]

My favorite music KZbin…er and and the founder of my favorite band. This is a good find today!

[@bobwarren4707]

fantastic and fun interview. thank you

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you for watching!

[@insulartomb]

the first local metal gig i went to as a teenager was a battle of the bands at a rugby club which fellsilent won. mad in hindsight

[@pitpride1220]

Excellent conversation! I learned a ton about the business aspect.

[@PabloAfroSamurai]

Man... if only I could have listened to this podcast 10 years ago

[@DarkPhantomSky]

Great interview!

[@Darrkness]

Great Interview. Thanks.

[@bds_mguydasic9293]

Like wtf 3 days ago i was like: is finn ever gon do a Podcast with misha? Here we go

[@davidf7485]

Can you say "Is Periphery V ever going to release". Maybe that will work.

[@briandlamini1689]

OKaay....this is Misha interesting..wonderful one Finn

[@atopermusic]

This was awesome insight. Misha RULES 🤘

[@jenniferkreisz7639]

Awesome conversation

[@herrelladventures]

Way back in the day, my local band was offered a record deal from a smaller but recognizable label. They were willing to take most of our sales, no assistance with tours, no assistance with merchandising, minimal assistance with promotion. We passed and made the correct decision. I'm sure many bands would have jumped all over it, but we recognized nonsense and didn't want to accept it just to seem "like we made it." Like Misha said, a record deal is not a good deal just because of the label status.

[@speediablo]

The title is immaculate

[@basildog007]

😂

[@Deardendrummer]

He's talking about Chon around 9:30

[@alrecks619]

I've been thinking that Misha's business acumen is also what brought his and Periphery's already top notch composition, performance, production to where they're at, not to mention selling their own sonic qualities through GetGood Drums and Horizon Devices and also working with several companies such as Peavey, Jackson, and what have you.

[@macdmacd7896]

thanks Finn. good topic on industry, its subs, pockets, niches, segments from playas POV. all newbies like this topic... yor channel is a school.

[@hybridblack]

What's hilarious is a handful of dudes I worked with at Guitar Center ended up going to Radio Shack and became managers LOLOLOL!!!

[@jaymzhetfield6001]

what band and demo from 2005 are they talking about that they say really holds up and kicks ass at the 25:50 mark?

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Fell silent

[@draggboy]

So stoked when I saw this! You always trash djent, even though it's in good fun, but Periphery is one of the greatest bands of our era and Misha single-handedly invented the current wave/style of "djent" starting back in the late MySpace days as "Bulb". I went seamlessly from an emo/metalcore kid to a young college kid listening to all of the early djent in about 2007. I was like, this is the new wave that's going to hit and you can't deny the direct link from djent to the current wave of metalcore and other stuff that mixes those grooves, tones, riff, etc.

[@oxmodius]

100%

[@vishnualcyone9170]

I would argue that guitarist of Tessaract started it but Misha popularized it.

[@Dustinchugs]

The spicy riff beast

[@Lucasryan]

Yeah, this podcast was fuckin gold. Good stuff 🤘🤘🤘

[@datmane5921]

Misha with a archspire shirt

[@newdarkagenow]

Ha! I knew it! Stay Tech!

[@eliminatrix]

“I’m old. I’m actually very young. I’m 22”

[@connorchops710]

Best Christmas gift

[@phylazen5649]

also yeah, shoutout to Chimp Spanner! fuck i forgot about him

[@adamcogan211]

All my homies love Misha! ❤️

[@_LYNCHPIN]

Yeah yeah, Honda Civic and Prelude's are nice but I'm creepin on a come back with 86 Chevette 😆

[@PaulMykokov69]

can we get a round of applause for the man, the machine, that is misha mansoor \m/

[@TheDeathXross]

12:00 as a person living in South America, you never make that mistake

[@andrewbennett7610]

Ppllleeeeaaasseee can that touring strategy of yours include Aus in 2023?! My jaw is still in the floor from seeing you here in 2017!

[@kollinrose]

I love the honda nerd talk!🔥🤘

[@rareelk]

What a wonderful surprise.

[@corm1000]

I didn't start playing guitar until 13 or 14? Is that late? It sounds pretty early to me.

[@wearesolarset]

What was Nolly saying in the sample?

[@alrecks619]

well, you gotta buy the first GGD library to find out which snare sample contains Nolly's (or maybe even Matt's) uncut studio chatter.

[@wearesolarset]

@@alrecks619 we demo all of our music with the Matt Halpern pack

[@andrewbennett7610]

Contrary to my not-so-positive comment on another Finn video, I loved this interview!

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you!

[@harshtruth9148]

In 97 i bought an electric blue civic SI and guess what….still got it and has 120k. Sitting in my back yard. Great condition. Interested??

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Love that color of blue

[@brutalbasspro]

My rsx type s is worth like 10k now it only has 90k miles and is an a spec factory car.

[@Dracula_sb]

STAY TECH!

[@Nihilian]

Would you mind uploading this on Facebook?

[@JAG214]

Does Misha still live in Dallas ?

[@andrewsutton2266]

I haven't watched it yet but I'm guessing misha points out he doesn't know music theory

[@corm1000]

I always think about what would have happened if Jimi Hendrix had been a music Major in a college. They would have told them right from the get-go that he sounded like s*** that it was bad that he couldn't read music and that he had no future as a musician. He would have struggled for sure because he wasn't very well schooled in music. He very well could have dropped out of school and then quit music all together.

[@KyleTheWynner]

"Playing Sacramento 3 times a year" Listen here buster. There ain't shit to do in Sacramento. Concerts are all we had there. We need our monthly headlining Sumerian/Rise bands or we would have NOTHING.

[@vriska8924]

42:38

[@Dustinchugs]

Hell yes!

[@matforsbon]

Finn McKenty looks like an Easter Island statue

[@maciejwacikowski6043]

Wow that was very inspiring...

[@lambofsean66]

I wonder what mishas dad's thoughts are on economy picking

[@andybarker5687]

never doubt the Honda Civic

[@Screwge]

Im the "which snare does he use" guy

[@Anouyz]

I love that everyone just meets Matt Farah and then is just juicing press cars for lyfe 🤣

[@Pericles777]

I was super hyped when GGD dropped. Got real tired of hearing Superior Avatar drums on everybody’s shit for nearly 10 years🤣🤣🤣

[@coldmoonlight6361]

I still think Jake needs to start a company called "Bowen Arrows"

[@NabeelZulkifli]

Lets gooo

[@scou1597]

Misha looks like Djesus these days

[@bonki3549]

Can you please change the background it hurts my eyes