The Perfect Dump Truck For Me? I'm on the Lookout

Today we visit a couple Ford Dealers Looking for the Perfect Dump Truck for me. We also talk about CDL License and More. #ford #dump #cdl
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[@python3574]

Here in Alabama, all you need for a CDL is a note from your football coach stating you are in great health, intimate knowledge and training for how to properly secure a Rebel flag from a headache rack and a Roll Tide flag from a window mount, have no more than 3 instances on your record of an accident that started with; "Hey, ya'll watch this!", and a photo ID that does NOT include your cousin from when you took them to the Prom. You can rent a truck from Big Lou for the day of your test, but it's on you to fix all the air leaks and make sure at least 75% of the lugnuts are still on it. Simple as that.

[@randysavage8963]

Absolutely hilarious comment 🤣

[@stevewesley8187]

@@randysavage8963 and so full of crap .........

[@billycook2688]

Funny because it’s true!

[@harrykeel8557]

I can kinda identify with what you're saying.

[@Sword-Shield]

ROLL TIDE 😁💯👍🎯

[@joesalas7761]

Hi Mike, got my straight truck CDL back in 97. Employer ask for volunteers to get the license. My hand couldn’t go up faster. Next week I went to a beer distributor and was handed a list of the 20 questions & answers to the CDL A combination (tractor trailer) written test. Passed the written test then a company employee gave me the driving test. Passed , got my license. Two years later I spent 21 years driving for Georgia Pacific/ Bluelinx! Retired now, but kept my class A CDL! NEVER GIVE IT UP IF YOU DON’T HAVE TO!!!!

[@KevinHarvey-qw5mj]

You want to keep your CDL that's for sure I'm 70 and still have mine 15:53

[@gungadinn]

Morning Mike, You might want to look into tagging the new truck as a FARM vehicle. Most states have allowances that allow farmers to operate commercial vehicles for farm use without obtaining a CDL. There is a limitation of how may miles from home you are allowed to operate, but it does give you options. Your selling an agricultural product, firewood, so IMO, it's technically farm use. The other thing you might look at is the DOT requirements for marking of the vehicle with IFTA reporting requirements. I don't pretend to understand the current jumbo of transportation laws that changed thanks to Homeland Security. The guys that use to cut my parents lawn got busted by the Virginia State Police DOT enforcement group for driving out of classification. He was driving a 3500 GMC dually Duramax and a 9900 pound trailer.He had 2 Kubota zero turn mowers, a push mower a couple of leaf blowers and string trimmers. It all depends on the officer that stops you and what mood he's in.

[@coypatton3160]

Unfortunately, he is correct about the ticket depends upon the officer that stopped you. Not all have a clear understanding of the law. If fact I would guess that 75+% of road officers are going to only look at the 26,001lbs rule. When the rating on your truck and trailer exceed this they will right an overweigh limit ticket. Personal story on Farm plates from back in the mid to late 80’s. An Uncle sent me on a trip to pick up some equipment with a pickup and trailer that he had bought. I got pulled over by a local city cop in a small town. He insisted that the Farm plates only mounted on the front of the pick were improperly mounted and said he was being a mice guy and would not cite me if I moved them in his prescience. I knew this was a violation of the law and try to explain it and finally said I would only move them after he wrote me up. When I explained that I wanted the documentation that he required the plates moved for the next traffic stop, he got ticked. Fortunately for me a state patrol officer stopped and tried to figure out what was going on. State trooper laughed at the local guy, saying he would have put his city in a bad way for not knowing the law and sent me on my way. Mike would be ok with farm plates as the owner of the “farm” and the vehicle owner, but others without CDL driving the truck might have issues. Also check if hauling “farm” products and “owning” a “farm” would qualify-your local dmv office should be able to provide a list of what you have to show to get farm plates.

[@dougseaman8791]

I grew up on a farm on Long Island, NY and when you registered a vehicle to have a farm plate you had to list the roads that it would be driven on so you couldn't just drive it anywhere. This was many years ago so I don't know if anything has changed since then.

[@KevinHarvey-qw5mj]

Don't forget about the inspection sticker seen people put out of service for that you can do your own inspection go to truck stop and get the form and tag for side of truck 16:20

[@robertclark2714]

Mike, I have a CDL and I am in my mid 60's. You must renew your medical certificate every two years. During the DOT physical they measure your neck circumference and assume that you have sleep apnea if you are "thick". They will not give you a medical certificate until you are evaluated and released by a sleep therapy clinic which requires you to stay overnight and is in the hundreds of dollars. Without the medical certificate, the CDL is useless. I do not have sleep apnea and my health is exceptional but I am built like Paul Bunyan. I still lift and stand telephone poles but they will not give me a medical certificate unless I spend $700.00 every two years. I have been to truck driving school and I have never had an accident.

[@jonallen9910]

Good morning Mike. I have worked in the truck upfitting industry for over 17 years. We put hyrail gear on F550’s for use on railroads. The end user switched to F750’s because they actually were more maneuverable. Turning radius of the F750’s are smaller than the F550’s. Obviously the chassis weight more due to construction materials. But you talked about delivery and I think you ought to check into the F750’s which have better transmissions than F650’s. Just asking you to check further. If they don’t fit your requirements then go with a F550. Thank you. Love your videos and look forward to each and every one.

[@hobiestamper6262]

I wonder if you could load the skidsteer in the dump bed and then haul the 10k trailer? Sounds sketchy but could be a loophole.

[@donaldpereira2652]

Honestly, Mike, it's more difficult now, but worth the effort in so many ways. Example...I live in Magalia, California...on November 8th, 2018, we got up, and came out on the porch for our morning coffee. Clear skies, except for a white cloud coming from the North East. Turned out to be the "Camp Fire ". Burned six communities, up here on the Ridge.

[@donaldpereira2652]

We were spared, but I wanted to do something to help.

[@donaldpereira2652]

12000 homes were burned to the foundation. 86 people were burned to death. Then the cleanup began. With a CDL, I hired on with a Dump Truck company, insisting that my wage be donated to the recovery efforts.

[@donaldpereira2652]

A Commercial Driver's License has more value than you might think...and all you gotta do is get a Physical every five years, when you renew.

[@joshmiller8663]

You hit it on the head Mike. It's all about the money. I'm outside of New Castle and we are looking for drivers all the time. all the schools are worried about is the money. Some of the drivers that come to interview can't do an air brake test or drive it self. It's crazy.

[@jimmeeks206]

I taught school bus drivers for the local school district for several years up until a couple of years ago here in Arkansas. And you are right that things changed big time a couple of years ago. But think about what else changed then. Regualtory agencies were turned loose on the public, created a bunch of new regualtions, hired a whole bunch of new inspectors and have since made getting liscensed much more difficult. Problem is; they did not make the driving public any safer. Like many regualtions we have now, it's all about jobs for government agents..

[@AllstarVentures]

In SC I was able to bypass the CDL process by putting a farm tag on my dump truck. It can only be used for farm work within a 50 mile radius( used to be 100 miles) but not limited to 26k, even pulling a trailer. Spot on Mike ! It’s absolutely a money grab. These companies with big trucks pay absurd amounts in taxes, fees and insurances to keep them on the road. Yet some 90 year old grandpa or even a 18 year old kid can drive 40+’ motor home or private bus with trailer around with no training or special requirements. Which I’m ok with keeping the “gubment” out of everything that we can keep them out of. But dang, just doesn’t make a lot of sense sometimes. Great video as always 👍🏼

[@wesleyoverturf1958]

Looking at PA Registrations, I would look into Farm Tags and the exemption on CDLs. Your firewood is a farm product.

[@markgosser9578]

Hey Mike, in 1983 the Construction Company I worked for asked me if I’d be interested in getting a CDL…sure happy I said yes. I’m now 60 and retired but still move equipment a couple days a month for Construction Company’s. It’s nice side money and dam good money because it’s tuff getting your CDLs now. I move big forklifts, Backhoes and boom lifts. Will never let it expire.

[@thunderroad7289]

We run the 7.3 gas engine in our 550 dump and it works great had it going for over a year now

[@stevecroy9396]

For hauling the big equipment look into a rollback tow truck. As long as the gvw is 26000 or less you won't need a CDL. I talked with an equipment salesman that did this so his drivers didn't have to have a CDL.

[@richardbrowne1679]

Good Morning Morgan Family 🌞- Have a Wonderful and Blessed Day 🤠: I just went through a CDL program at Highlands College in Butte, Montana this summer. It was $4k. The classroom portion was all online and you went to the college for the hands on and the driving portion, the class was 6 weeks and you used there truck and trailer for the road test. From what I know, you are correct on CDL requirements. PA has a pretty good flow chart for CDL requirements. The flow charts make interpretation of CDL requirements much easier for me. I’m sorry I didn’t go with an aluminum bed on my dump truck- Lighter weight, doesn’t rust, and mostly maintenance free. The other thing is as soon as you leave your state, your now involved in interstate trucking which changes the rules and regulations.

[@adubbelde1]

When I was 19 in 69 I had to get what at that time was referred to as a "chauffers" license. Very simple written test. Over the years that was grandfathered into a Class A license. I kept it up for decades but finally decided not to pay the fees to keep it up. Today I wish I had.

[@davidmorse8432]

That's the way I got mine too. I was 18 in 69'. Still have valid CDL today but the medical is getting more difficult to pass. My grandfather was a dump truck driver and had a pin that he wore on his cap that was proof that he was a qualified "chauffer" and could drive a truck. He taught me many valuable things about truck driving as well as my Dad.

[@RKHarm24]

Me Too. I drove school busses while in college. Passed my Chauffeurs test in a school bus. This was in 1973 in Texas. I drove Texas deliveries OTR between Dallas and the Major cities in Texas on my Chauffeurs license. I later dropped it for a CDL, cheaper fees.

[@LifeofaCarnivore]

I love what you said about old blueFord 😂 Mike. A goose neck dump trailer with trucks you have are probably your cheapest option.

[@crbourret]

I had my Class A CDL with all the endorsements for almost 30 years and had to give it up recently for health reasons. They don't make it easy to get or keep one nowadays and they wonder why there is a driver shortage.

[@joeyhammonds9940]

Heard about several people getting a semi with sleeper and changing out the 5th wheel to gooseneck or smaller 5th wheel. With the sleeper you can register it as a camper and no CDL required. You can get a nice Semi cheaper than most regular trucks these days.

[@1amaker]

Mike, not trying to tell you what to do but I would look into a used medium duty truck like a f650. They are cheaper to buy and maintain. It would handle any of your loads much better and can get into the same if not more places. Also a split load body may be nice for two loads of firewood at one trip out.

[@thomasstrout1738]

You are better off being patient and ordering exactly what you want/need. Good luck Mike.

[@fredcory2686]

You may want to consider a few cab upgrades with the W Va property - While you may not do it often, there probably will be times you want to take it down there. You may want to look into the requirements for a CDL license in W Va.

[@achamber765]

CDL requirements are the same in all 50 states - it is a federal standard.

[@dmhipkins]

Mike, since 2002, I have an F350 xl & F550 xl cab & chassis, with the switch-n-go hoist system. They are made in PA. This setup is highly flexible for moving equipment on the trucks, flat bed, overhead hoist for moving logs, roll-off dumpsters for delivering firewood, stone etc. The 7.3 gas, check on the lifters, I understand there is an issue with engine failures. Always get the 4x4 with the snowplow package and pto, up-fitter switches with electric brakes pre wired.

[@drewwagner7985]

I had the exact same thought and posted before looking at the other comments. Seems like the best of both worlds to me.

[@thunderroad7289]

Been running the 7.3 gas engine in our 550 with dump bed for over a year with zero engine problems

[@jakebredthauer5100]

​@@thunderroad7289 You mean it might run for a year?

[@jefflee4663]

Hey Mike, I work for a company near you and they have a couple ram 5500 dumps with 19500 gvw. A few years ago one of my coworkers got fined for pulling a trailer with that truck so it must really depend on the officer and his knowledge of the laws. I was always under the impression that you needed a cdl for anything over 26001 lbs. I got my cdl in 2009 and it was the same process that I did when I got my license at 16 only cost couple hundred bucks for the permit. I practiced driving trucks at work (on the clock) and then scheduled a driving test at the dmv and used a company truck to take the test. A lot sure has changed over the last few years regarding cdl.

[@karlschupp8552]

There is a tentative agreement reached yesterday between uaw and Ford! We are supposed to go back to work in the next day or two at Kentucky Truck Plant!!! Luv ya's from Kentucky!!!!

[@chrissheathewoodguy]

Your going in the right dirrection.. The laws are the same here in Va.. 10,000 lb trailer max. I was able to drive my equipment around(875 bob cat and mid size track hoe) now once i got the larger equipment I hired a driver with a cdl. got a 15,000 deck over trailer.. I did the same thing. 550 single cab so i had the most payload available.

[@davidhosmer1424]

ZORESCO has a bunch of branches. Evans City probably closest. Next would be Turtle Creek / Monroeville. Thanks for taking us along - take care

[@Outdoorsinthecarolinas]

I was a CDL instructor at a school years back in SC , most all the large carriers required new drivers to have some type of training before they would hire them on. Think it was like 6K back then to attend a 4 week class, I still have my CDL as I drive a truck but the restrictions are getting crazier by the year

[@peterh9927]

Hi Mike. I recommend ordering exactly what you want. Especially if you're keeping it for many years. I ordered a F600 84"ca gas 4x4 for delivering firewood and moving lumber. HD everything $60k. Definitely know your DOT rules.

[@jaredspear8140]

Hey Mike, here in Oklahoma my son in law just went thru this “game”. He tried for months to get his CDL prior to new law. Back logs during Covid prevented him from ever being able to take his test even though he had his permit cdl. The school was 16 or 18 weekends I think. $6k and every Saturday and Sunday all day long. The “cdl school” was such a joke. Crammed as many people as they could in, massive turnover in instructors, instructors never on time, some times hours late. Crammed four people in a truck at a time. If there were too many people they would just leave them sitting at the yard but if they left then they got a non attendance stamp for the day. Could only miss a total of two days. If trucks were broke down(happened regularly because they had the cheapest worn out junk money could buy) then again, they’d sit at the “school”. Once completed the instructors at the school would do the driving test, pre-trip/post-trip test and it didn’t really matter what you did. As long as your attendance record was good, you had a good medical card, you received your cdl. All just a $$$$$ grab. My son in law knows the owner, who has nothing to do with the actual school. He’s normally at his lake house on his boat, fishing, riding his motorcycles etc. just our having fun, making tons of money, low overhead, etc etc. You get the point. 20-30 folks in a class at $6k a head $120k. Instructors are paid $18 hr and trucks aren’t worth $15-20k each! Run 3-4 classes simultaneously. I need to invest! Not saying they’re all that way, just his experience.

[@keithprentice8298]

Hi Mike, I'm in Ontario Canada. I just renewed my AZ (a class with z air brake endorsement) not sure how it compares to the American CDL, but in Ontario it is full transport class tractor trailer weight (and below) . I got my License years ago. I took a course, but it was not required at the time, I think it was about 6 weeks, about 2 were "in class" and then scheduled in truck time over the following 4 weeks. I am glad I did, and Though I don't drive professionally (I did at the time I got my License) I have chosen to maintain it. I have to do a written test and medical every 3 years. We definitely have a driver shortage up here as well, and a getting the license sounds like its about as difficult. Last time I ordered Concrete the driver told me he was hot seating trucks, they had guys in the yard that would clean and load the trucks and when he got to the yard he just jumped out of the truck and into the next delivery. He said he liked it but his days felt more "rushed" (I wonder if the daily output at the plant is higher) for a time we also had garbage trucks with drivers who would not load truck so they were driving with laborer's because drivers didnt want to be "garbage man" (they moved to the robo trucks). In about 10 years nothing is going to move when all these guys retire.

[@CPUDOCTHE1]

My daughter just bought a 2023 F450. She hit a deer that took out the grill, AC condenser and front bumper. Over $10,000 in damages and Ford does not have parts available to fix it.I hit a deer with my Ram 1500. It even bent the shaft on the power steering pump. It was only about $4000 to repair. I would definitely go with a Cummins diesel in your truck. My daughter had a '21 Ram 3500 and didn't have any problems. Then she got a '22 or '23 GMC 3500. First trip it blew the hose loose from the turbo. Parts were not available but a GMC mechanic was able to make it work. In 14 months, she had to limp home 5 times and had numerous other trips to the dealer to fix the CEL . Now she is trying a Ford F450.

[@MichaelJones1527]

Mike I had a similar problem in North Carolina and I got around it by putting my dump truck a F650 with a cat engine in the farm tag category. I use to drive for a living but gave up my CDL’s because of cataract and now after the surgery I can’t get my CDL but since I have my trucks tagged as farm trucks I can still drive them. Check you state for Farm Tag usage. I have two tractor trailer trucks tagged also. No CDL required for farm use. Now everything I do has to be for my farm but that’s ok with me.

[@jamesdees4604]

Same in Georgia, it’s calling a class B here.

[@OneStepHomestead]

were you mentioned you'd want the sides to fold down I would look into that newer style of roll-off bodies.... set yourself up with a dump bed a flatbed and a dumpster to swap out as needed. You have a dump for gravel and a flat body ..... the dumpster you could have to leave at tree removal sites to collect firewood or such.

[@arthuralbanese5750]

Welcome to our neck of the woods, surprised you ventured so close to NYC. Good luck, they are great people!

[@jamiecorley1700]

Here in South Carolina you can go to the local DMV and buy a manual to study so that you can get your CDL. Getting your CDL would cover all bases.

[@mikeboyd2337]

Good morning Mike, a dealership continues to pop up on my Facebook. I look at commercial trucks quite often and local to us as a dealer called Fairway Ford in Canfield, which is just west of the Ohio border. May consider giving them a look. Just look today they have some 73 super duty chassis.

[@brotherbruce]

Check on line at City , County, and State auctions of used equipment. You can pick up small dump trucks that have years of life left in them that do not require a CDL.

[@gslope1]

Tri-Star in Blairsville used to have a good selection on their lot. Haven't been past there in a long time. You could also check with Stephenson Equipment in Butler.

[@wildbill23c]

Here in Idaho, you take the written test, get your permit, practice driving if you need to, then go take the driving (skills) test. No school required, but you still have to have the money, time, and access to a truck in order to do the practice and skills testing. I don't need a dump truck, but a dump trailer would sure be nice, but way too expensive for the couple times a year I need it...the rental place got rid of their heavy equipment side unfortunately, and trying to find someone in town that isn't a scammer to rent a trailer from isn't easy. There are other rental yards but I'd have to drive 45 minutes one way to get it, then drive 45 minutes back...so basically 2 hours of driving and paying for a trailer that I'm not using. Wish I had the money to buy some trailers to rent out LOL.

[@justatim8143]

When I got my license back in 1974 or 1975 my cousin told me to put 1-8 on my license in Pa. as that is what he did and had his CDL on his license instead of 1 @ 8 like I did for car and motorcycle. He ended up able to drive anything on his license from 1 through 8. We live just south of you in New Kensington area.

[@joshhall4309]

Mike, just got my class A back in June and all you really need is to find someone who is federally certified and a truck and trailer to practice that’s over 26k pounds. However i did have to road training. You have to have 60 hrs training, 52 hrs windshield time on 8hrs maneuvering. If you can find a person that will be able to help you without the actual schooling that costs thousands would be the way to go. Also you can test in any state since this is on a federal level now. But you need to get your permit first in your state of residence. My trainer was is a guy I work with. I didn’t pay the big money to go to driving school.

[@bob2973]

Mike you need to look at a 2 or 3 year old Chevy 6500 Topkick dump truck , That is exactly what you need and i bet it would be in your price range .

[@halfwayfarmsandoutdoors3550]

At work, I drive a F-550 flatbed to deliver parts to our mine sites with 19,500 GVWI don’t have to have a CDL but I do have to have a DOT physical and keep a logbook.

[@donberry8474]

Mike in Texas there is a license for hauling over 26,000 that is not a CDL. It is much easier to get. It is only good for hauling your own equipment. You can not haul for money. It is called a class A exempt. I would suspect your state has the same thing. There is a written test and you have to prove you can back a trailer. It is for farmers, large RVs and people like us that need to haul their own personal equipment. Hope this helps.

[@gregorypazo6446]

Live in Virginia Beach, got my CDL A in 2011(not currently driving) at a local community college, which cost around $2400.12 years ago. I’ve ran into folks(farmers) who know their way around a class a tractor I.e. Pre-trip, pass the cdl test, had seat time for shifting a rig etc etc and went to DMV with a friends tractor and passed the test! I am unaware of any major changes to that process in the last couple years in Virginia. Good luck navigating that whole process.

[@bradhitchcock3980]

There's a Ford dealer in Blairsville Pa. that has a commercial truck center. Tri- county Ford. They have many dumps on their lot

[@jasone679]

Mike, talk to Moore CDL driving academy up in New Wilmington, Pa. We sent a couple guys there recently to get their class A CDL. Much of the "class work" can be done online.

[@richardeustice1010]

Hey Mike, southern Minnesota is in need of school bus drivers and semi- drivers , and in my area, school bus companies are covering the training and testing required for new employees, not as bad here in MN as what it sounds like in your neck of the woods, I think I spent a total of a hundred bucks out of pocket to get my CDL, and health card and behind the wheel testing! 👍🏻

[@roywaite5793]

Have you considered a dumping stake body? With solid stake panels it works great as a dump truck as well as removing the panels for a flat bed. Best of both worlds.

[@russellbowman8051]

Loved The Video Mike!! So Much Information To Chew On And Digest!! Keep Smiling On!! 😄👊❤️👍

[@sushiman3375]

Mike, check to see if your state supports the operation of trucks and trailers for “farm” use without the need of a CDL. Your local farm bureau may be a good resource. Also, quick research says Senate bills 725 and 736 in PA may give you what you need if you can classify yourself as a “tree farm” or other agricultural operation.

[@arthurhouston3]

La changed they all did trucks regulated by fed. Our Grandson drives Bluebell truck got his CDL right before change. The truck has air brakes and loaded goes over the limit.

[@Tcw2019]

It is the same in NH. That 10k rule works for landscapers as well. I just snuck in and got my class A before they did the new rules. I have a kx040 and was planning to get a f550 and need it for gross. I’d stick to towing with your pickup. A lot of guys get 16k trailers and f250’s to keep under class A. I really wanted a switch n go

[@joemcgarry6915]

The US must be taking a leaf out of the UK book when it comes to getting either a CPC or operators licence. As for towing it all comes down to GVW combine with permitted axle weight in the UK.

[@stanley-rn7xo]

I went past the Ford garage this morning in Butler and saw that red dump truck sitting there. You were the first person I thought a bath and I don’t even know ya😂

[@jimg8218]

Mike ,, conract dejana truck and equipment in queensbury NY,, may be very helpful even what to look for when buying a cab and chassis,, good luck

[@KeithRowell-ix2qg]

I live in south west Missouri and just looked it to get your CDL.just have a drivers licenses pass a D.O.T medical exam. And do the written test.just retired in 2020 after 35 years and 3.8 million miles over the road.

[@mikemcmahan9850]

There are CDL written practice tests online. Take that a few times until you pass regularly, then go into the DMV and take their written. You’ll come with a CDL-P… permit. Then go rent a trailer over 12k gvw with your dump or anything overweight and go take the driving test. You’ll get a CDL without the air brake endorsement.

[@dustingrooms895]

Mike, as a law enforcement officer who has spent time working with Motor Carrier Officers, let me help clear some things up. First, your understanding of CDL requirements is correct as to weights. However, if you want to tow your personal equipment from your house to WV for use on your personal property, no CDL is required regardless of weight. You may have to get a higher level standard license, but not a CDL. The key word is "COMMERCIAL" Drivers License, meaning you are driving for commercial (paid) purpose. If you were hauling firewood for sale and took some equipment and were over the minimum weights a CDL would be required, but not for personal use. Hope this helps!

[@IrvinBoyce-r6w]

Mike in va. If you go to a cdl school and you are a state resident you get a grant . I have heard that the school is 5-6000.00 but you only have to pay 1500.00 with the grant. I was told by a dot officer that what you committed about weight was correct but they also said the capacity of the trailer like the trailer might only weigh 10,000lbs with it loaded but if it can haul 14,000 lbs you still need a cdl to pull it .

[@kb3byu]

Mike I live in PA and my employer paid for me to get my class B CDL back in 2005. Although I no longer do any CDL work I pay the difference when I renew my license every 4 years just so I don't have to take the test again.

[@kentontaylor8701]

In Kansas we can get a non commercial CDL class A. Have to take test and drive for them. Also can not cross state lines.

[@donschaefer9442]

Yes. As of January 2022. You need to take the class. $5,000 minimum around here. NJ and Philly area. I squeaked by and got mine right before and only spent about $600.

[@RobertWebbJr]

Good morning everyone. Mike, I’m curious if you’ve ever looked into interchangeable truck beds such as the Switch-N-Go system. A couple different bodies on the ground ready to go and your never limited with what you can do with your truck. Flatbed, contractor dump, a couple dumpsters and you’d have a system for just about anything. A little more costly to get into but the endless possibilities out weigh that when your creating cash flow.

[@Beermaker124]

A couple years ago I was looking to make a career change. Took vacation from my regular job and went to truck driving school. My state govt is encouraging people to get their CDL and giving out grants to pay for school. Not just grants for people under a certain income, grants for people getting a CDL. The local community college has a CDL program with either the normal Mon- thurs class schedule and a program on the weekends. Looks like it would benefit you to jump through the hoops to get that CDL.

[@markusb7488]

Gorgeous autumn colours! In Australia we have a 5-tiered system of licence ratings, depending on vehicle mass and towing combinations, where the lowest rating (single rigid dump-truck up to 8metric ton, towing up to 9mt) is relatively cheap and quick (

[@MrJake1851]

Yes, the USA has a similar licensing Regulations. To let you know that the Law makers in the USA are not in Cahoots with Driving Schools That many people trying to blame! It is because of UNQUALIFED and unlicensed Drivers and Illegal operating Transportation Companies that has made it difficult for New Drivers to become QUALIFIED Drivers. In the last 25 years of my Working years was involved with Vehicle Safety. Many Laws were created to assure that the HIGHWAYS WERE SAFE TO BE ON! If you could ONLY read of the MANY of FALTAL ACCIDENTS DUE TO UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE DRIVING!

[@griggsb1]

We have a 33,000 lbs gvrw. Used work truck that we added a new dump bed too. In Tennessee if you don't work for the public you can run a farm tag and no CDL.

[@katieleonard6391]

Kansas also requires a CDL school and it's around $5k for the basic class A cdl.

[@randywoodruff7167]

Hey, Mike I ran a wholesale branch here in WV and everything you stated about the CDL rules are the same as I understand them here. You also so correct on finding young men to work in this field.

[@charlesperry1051]

In Tennessee you still just have to take and pass the tests to get a CDL. No special training required. I do not have a CDL. The regs are little clearer in TN, they specifically say you need a CDL if your GCWR is 26001 lbs or greater AND the trailer is over 10000lbs. I plan to order my next truck. I tow a 2022 5th wheel RV with a 2011 F250 diesel. I plan to order a f450 4x4 diesel DRW to use as my tow vehicle. My truck is no longer my daily driver, so I can order a tow specific truck this time. The trucks on the lot are either work trucks with no options, or stupid high end optioned. I want an XLT with the options that make it tow better. Nothing fancy.

[@jenkins2162]

I hope you see this. I was an Ag Teacher for 12.5 year's. I wanted to get my bus driving license for driving the bus for competitions and other events because the county did not have enough bus drivers. This was in 2014. I had to get the CDL first through the testing which was difficult, then I had to spend 3 weeks training specifically on the bus training. You had to know and memorize every part of that bus from elbow to you know what. Thankfully I grew up around that stuff on the farm. In short there's no wonder there's a shortage of bus drivers. I'd recommend a four year degree in to begin with to prepare for the info needed.

[@trevorburton2718]

Mike have you thought about a smaller excavator a 3 ton excavator maybe even second hand that can live in west virginia. A 3 or 3.5 ton excavator can still do a lot of work in a day.

[@kevinb8285]

I got my CDL over 30 years ago in NH. No permit needed, on days are crew got rained out I would jump in a trailer dump with the license driver and that’s how I learned to drive. Kinda crazy if you think about it. Gave up my CDL a few years ago, got sick of all the idiots on the road talking on their phones.

[@johnolsen1192]

You are spot on I just went through all this bs

[@RavensRidgeNC]

I love having a flatbed dump - though do sorta wish it had drop sides. Have the sides bolted together with wood side on top so the SSQA can lift the sides off, then put in 3" channel stakes for logs/pallets, and the like, swap back to a gravel hauler again in minutes with the SSQA. Like your plan, something will work out ;-)

[@fleminj2pa]

Mike, we have an F-550 Powerstroke with a landscaper body, 11’ bed with high sides. It holds 1.5 cords, loose loaded. All we use it for is delivering firewood. I promise you our next truck will be a gas engine truck. These short hop trips delivering wood locally is not good for that diesel. It needs run hard and we don’t get the opportunity do that. We’ve had lots of issues with this engine. We had the body made by Super City. Good people and they did a nice job for a reasonable price.

[@backhoeman99]

Crane operator and heavy equipment by trade and I finally bit the bullet and went to school and go it. Originally from pa but I went down to North Carolina for school because it was 3-4K cheaper. Since cdl is federally everything was accepted into pa dmv. They had my license in the mail the day I passed. I had to do one week training online then 3 weeks in class. It sucked yes but I’m 24 and I know the $3900 I spent on schooling I will easily make that back in my career before I retire.

[@paulkalff6408]

Mike! Another fine presentation...beautiful foliage! Here in the SFran Bay Area, there are many CDL folks who are Sikh. A dear friend from India tells me that many if not all of the older drivers were certified in India as operators of the larger vehicles. Many of these gents drive the shuttle loads from the Port of Oakland and other ports of debarkation for containers. Looking at the ownership info on the cabs, many own their own rigs....the tractors, anyway. There are also a fair number of lads of Hispanic heritage who drive semi's to and from Mexico with the tractors reg'd in both Mexico and California....it's pretty easy to pick out the tractors from Mexico due to the massive amount of tube steel protecting the front end. Based on observation, it appears that most of the loads from Mexico have Conventional Petes, good number of Kennys, and an occasional Mack, too. Thanks, again for inspiring us all! Prayers Are Answered Miracles Happen Dreams Come True.

[@markhaney6547]

Down here in WV there is a place Richard's motor that does rocket race chassis has a shop up above there shop that has pickup dump trucks on I-79 I see them there on my way to work saltwell exit

[@st7650]

Mike have you ever just thought about a hydraulic dump trailer best thing I’ve found for delivering firewood not to mention anything else you need to haul

[@outdoorswiththebojadichs6085]

Mike check out fairway ford Canfield ohio they have a big selection on dump trucks and they also have cab and chassis’s on the lot there about 1 hour from you

[@gregs9187]

Washington State here and a class for CDL has been required for as long as I can remember. 160 plus hours of a combination of class and hours of driving.

[@joesalas7761]

While you have to meet weight limits, as best as I know, the license is based on gross vehicle weight rating GVWR of truck and trailer! Even if both are empty, the GVWR is what determines the need for CDL class A for truck & trailer..

[@fricknjeep]

hi there interesting , best to all john

[@donaldmartin8562]

Mike, Oklahoma have the same school requirements you were talking about.

[@greentrucks1]

Mike, I have a 3 axle gooseneck dump with fold downsides; can haul my excavator with my one ton Ram and I can put 6 tons of gravel when I need some. I only travel local and avoid getting weighed, but I do have a CDL, but I don't put enough tonnage to handle more than 26001 gvw. You have the one ton truck; This is the lower cost option. Steel dump gooseneck 3 axle

[@02Lightning]

Oklahoma is the same. You have to goto class for a month and it’s about 5k to get a CDL

[@indianaoutdoors4379]

I would still look at the F-600. Same size as the 550 but built a little heavier and 4-5 K pounds more of gvwr. Still under cdl. They handle great. It will give you more toung compacity if you are towing loaded.

[@grizz474]

I got my CDL a thousand years ago, when it was much like getting a regular drivers license. All I had to do was pass a written permit test then drive around with a class A licensed person. Then take the class A drivers test when I felt I was ready. Then I drove a semi for 44 yrs. I'm retired now and thought about not paying to renew my class A.....Then came to my senses and still maintain my class A.

[@jerrymcgonigal9810]

I would suggest you go to a Freightliner dealer and check pricing on a M2 cab and chassis. You will be able to specify front and rear axle weight. The length of the frame from the cab back can be varied for your bed length. They should also be able to get the bed installed as part of the deal. You will be able to specify many features of the truck so you can get exactly what you need.

[@babybluesfarm8595]

Same situation here in Arkansas with trying to get a cdl.

[@johnsullivan824]

Mike, I got my CDL through the school board. They trained me and paid me to take the class. I would check into it up there and see what they say.

[@ronliebert330]

If you want the less weight, look at super singles on the drives with aluminum wheels. You are right about the CDL it all about the money 💰💰💰💰 I have my CDL and tank indorsment with bus indorsment then had to go back to school to get Washington Education Department. To get there indorsment. The school district provided the training. 0:02

[@calebgotschall1788]

If you are interested in getting your CDL, and with the knowledge you already have, there is a place in southern WV that is approved and does Class A CDL in 5 days!

[@mikeholubek4419]

I paid Raul 50 pesos to take my written and 75 pesos and a goat to Pedro to take Roadtest for me. 2 great guys working for the betterment of Professional Truck Drivers in USofA!!

[@rexwoodall2179]

Mike, I think it’s wise to thoroughly think this through. The cab and chassis order seems reasonable. Moving forward, one of the OWTM needs to have the CDL. Just saying…

[@JM-sz4oi]

Interesting requirements for CDL. Sounds like the large trucking companies have managed to eliminate any “start-up” trucking competition. I’d be careful investing too much in a “dump truck”. With the apparent government corruption the next step could be lowering the amount of weight a non-commercial (private) trailer can carry. Consequently you have to have a commercial truck deliver your stone or whatever. I saw independent contractors shut down in the same type of shenanigans.

[@steveashworth6707]

Here in ohio my neighbor farms and he owns an 18 wheeler and he uses his truck for farm use and he doesent need a cdl lisence. But I was told that if I hauled over 26,000 lb on combination I would have to have a cdl lisence and I would have to get farm tags to not have to have a cdl. As of now I just haul what ever i want to and know body bothers me, but you should check WV laws as well cause I've herd they are bad about pulling a combination even with a half ton truck!.

[@BarrettGreg]

ok here in Texas its 26000 combined GVRW on truck and trailer. Anything over that you would need a CDL. Now something you did not mention is crossing state lines. The federal law is anything over 10,000 GVRW crossing state lines you need a CDL. But its rarely enforced. I had a custom trailer built for my company. I used super single axels that are 12k on my 36ft trailer and had them stamp on the trailer 16,000 lbs. when its really a 24k lbs trailer. That way my old 7.3 trucks can haul it anywhere in Texas without needing a CDL. The Dot looks at that trailer with dual axel single wheels and think its a max 16k trailer. and they know by looking at my trucks they are 10k grvw or less because of the age of the truck. Prior to 2003 The f350's non dually were below 10k. Also im pretty sure for insurance a F450 or above are considered commercial. Because i have owned a 450 and a 550. I own a Hot shot company here in Texas and have for over 20 years. (Hot Shot = Glorified delivery service ) at one time had 9 trucks on the road 5 of which were CDL rated trucks.

[@davedutile6317]

Order what you want. Plan on next year at this time to get it.

[@chrisspringer1418]

Mike I live in pa and have a CDL if your combined weight is over 26000lbs you need a CDL , if you tow any of your tractors with a 550 your going to need one, I know from experience I bought a 550 and one of my workers got pulled in and they wouldn’t let him drive no CDL your best bet is to get a 350 2wd dump then you have some room to play with