The Perpetuum Magnetic Motor

This video takes a look at the Perpetuum Magnetic Motor design and some of the failed attempts at replicating a working version of it. I’ll also share some new design ideas to employ mechanical advantage to the original design.
The original motor consists of 4 microwave magnets evenly distributed on a wheel, and a weakened stator magnet that is flipped 90 degrees through a mechanical mechanism to induce rotation of the wheel.
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The original motor:
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The inventor explaining how his motor works:
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[@rafaelxavier8070]

Congratulations. Your channel is the most honest one exploring this subject i've ever seem. Your vids are inspiring.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you! I appreciate it.

[@gilldanier4129]

I have seen the original a few years ago, and was amazed at how humble the designer is. Even if it does no work, it serves to show that this level of efficiency is achievable, and is an inspiration to build further designs, as you have done. That's how all great inventions start.

[@LegoStopMotionAnimationMovies]

Interesting. Can you tell us where you saw the original a few years ago, and what the designer had to say about it?

[@Lechoslowianin]

You must hurry, humanity is waiting for a new source of energy

[@andreasschmitt2307]

But where's the connection? That's the opposite; a sink of time, money and energy.

[@residue-er5dooo]

Type in 300 hp ambient heat engine

[@thequixotryworkshop2424]

Great work! Thanks for referring my channel and feeble attempts also. I must admit. I was hoping to get lucky, soon realized thst in order to achieve some success time must be spent. Some guys are more driven to spend years on the same project. Me, I get bored if I don’t get some positive results. You are an inspiration to me. Thsnjs for sharing:-) Keep up the great work.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you! I enjoyed what you did with your tweaks to the design, regardless of whether that produced the results you were hoping for. We learn through our own experimentation and that can lead to more inspiration in future projects. Thanks again, and do great things!

[@tribulationcoming]

Your projects are above and out ahead, effort is two hundred percent +++. What is very important is the fact that others will be inspired by the instructive presentation. In the mechanical mind there are wheels that have not yet turned, but what might set them to spinning.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks! My main point is always to provide ideas and perspectives that cause the viewer to think. I imagine it as passing a baton back and forth in a race. If everyone works together as a team, there's a much better chance of winning the race.

[@heinzpg]

I agree that the video can have an inspiring effect on some people. But frankly, many different design ideas for magnet motors have been tried in the last decades, but none of them could show even the smallest energy gain in a credible way. Does this not support the insights of science, that a motor simply can't be driven by permanent magnets alone?

[@Azazelcobb]

@@heinzpg I agree with your assessment. In my mind I think of it like this....a magnet is stored energy, but it's not a significant amount of energy alone. So I ask myself what else is source of stored energy? 🤔 The two things I have are 1: Gravity 2: Spring For several years now I have had such a weird feeling that I can't explain. It has to do with copper and magnets. I can't help but think the reaction between the two is somehow the key to the room where the answer is✨🧲😶‍🌫️

[@heinzpg]

@@Azazelcobb Gravity is no source of energy. If an object drops down you can gain energy. But to repeat this, you have to lift the object up again, which consumes exactly the energy which was gained before. This is by the way similar to permanent magnets. If two magnets attract each other you can gain energy. But to repeat this you have to pull them apart which consumes exactly the energy which was gained before. Also a spring is not a source of energy. A compressed spring can e.g. deliver energy by expanding, but no more than was needed to compress it. There is an interaction betwenn electrical currents and magnetism, the material - mostly copper - is not relevant. Copper is preferred in electrical machines since it is a good conductor and thus losses are small. (Silver would even be better, but is too expensive.) My simple answer: it is not possible to drive a motor by permanent magnets alone.

[@Azazelcobb]

@@heinzpg I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. I'm not sure what to say that will make my point. For some reason you basically explained how they both are a source of stored energy without admitting that they are a source of stored energy. I understand that neither of them are a sufficient source alone, but you aren't taking into consideration my previous comments. First I will say that if it was so simple to create or design what we are speaking about with current designs and concepts. We wouldn't be having this discussion. I'm certain that all individuals that have come up with something that prior to their eureka moment did not exist...were all told basically what you told me. It's not possible...it can't be done... you know nothing of what you speak.etc...and so on. I'm not trying to suggest that spring's or gravity are even a part of anything. It was only a small part of trying to explain something. I do appreciate your thoughts and knowledge, and don't mean any disrespect or anything in that manner just to be clear. I hope we can disagree with each other and still have dialogue. I thank you for the way you wrote you're comment. It's perfectly fine in my opinion to tell someone you think that they're wrong and here's why. I just hope I have done the same.😎

[@Taterstyles]

I assume it'd be easier to have the repel mode in the downward direction. Could it then also be combined with a James Roney Stator to minimize the pull attraction and focus the repel?

[@Motionmagnetics]

I've considered that. His stator is static, but adding a slight mechanical advantage might create an interesting effect.

[@victoryfirst2878]

I just love your projects fella. Am in the same boat as yourself. I just have to many irons in the fire to get going again. But I was able to get many ideas to try out. Hope to get somewhere in a bit. Keep on making great stuff Sir. I enjoy your unique minds visions. Nice work also.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thank you! I appreciate that, and I will.

[@mysticalsoulqc]

This method begins with the minimal energy required to initiate the rotation of a wheel. An Arduino is then used to implement a pulsing mechanism that gradually increases in speed, enabling the wheel to accumulate additional energy. Coils are placed at the center of the wheel’s rotation without the inclusion of a ferrite core, alternatively utilizing the wheel’s kinetic energy to drive a generator. Crucial to this process is the precise adjustment of frequencies to achieve a point of convergence. The culmination of this setup involves steping up the voltage and sending it through a handmade capacitor,

[@mysticalsoulqc]

which is then directed back to the source at 4x a higher voltage level at around 20 MILLIS AMPS.

[@ollieoniel]

You are awesome keep going. People will tell you to prove yourself but you have always proved yourself on your work.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks!

[@brettcrawford8878]

When I was a young person the trick I used was to use an old record player for the spinning part then plasticine to hold the magnets and a magnet off to the side held by hand to place into position to try to get it to work. Magnets shoot off and ceramic plates try to break. It helps if you allready know they work before you build them and it is simply a matter of weather or not you are smart enough to figure out how to make them work. I was. The ceramic plate sits on top of the magnets on top of the plasticine that tries to hold the magnets in place. None of it is very complicated. The idea is to be able to move the magnets and come up with more workable designs. So that in finished designs hopefully the magnets can be moved and repositioned. Small weights can be set on ceramic plate to try to hold it in place. Then slotted wood could be used to hold magnets 🧲 in place so they do not shoot away. Sorry if I made anyone understand. Stay the same😊.

[@JoelStenberg]

Do you think you could try looking into the use of the Zero point?

[@carlosmf6954]

Thank you for your sincerity

[@marioncampbell2589]

The Bell project is likely urban legend, but the man was seriously obsessively a student of vortex flow.

[@jeffkroeger946]

Another great video, I was just wondering do you make your 3-D files available just thought I would ask thanks Jeff

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks. I do from time to time. I did quite a few tests before I put this video together, so there are multiple sizes and variations of the parts I used for this project. It would be a challenge to weed through all of them to find and label the final versions I used. If people are interested though I might find the time to try and compile all of the files.

[@jeffkroeger946]

@@Motionmagnetics I completely understand thank you anyway

[@_M_H_T_]

Scale matters a lot! The range of the place where the free energy passes is very small, so the error per millimeter can become critical, but not in a huge amount is easier to hit.

[@heinzpg]

This assumption is a very unlikely one. The effects of a machine usually show up in a broad range, although there is a maximum at a certain point. Why should a millimeter matter here? Since up to now no magnet motor has shown even a milli-Watt, it is much more likely that there is no small gap where free energy passes in. I give an example. If an object floats in calm water, water pressure works on it from all sides. Water pressure from below keeps the object floating. Water pressure from the sides could move the object sideways but this does not happen, an object floating in calm water does not move. Would it move you could gain energy from that movement. One could now try to give the object some special shape which makes it unsymmetrical in regard to the effect of water pressure, but with all shapes you try - round on one side, flat on the other or whatever - sideways water pressure always adds up to zero. And changing the shape somewhere for a millimeter will not help. The attempts to find a working magnet motor are similar to the futile attempt to find the shape of an object which moves in water sideways due to water pressure. Nature does not allow that and it can even be proved with higher mathematics that this isn't possible.

[@_M_H_T_]

@@heinzpg No, ranges are important. Even a Christmas tree can loop, the main thing is to act at the edges of the fields of both magnets, there will be super-low efficiency, and there it will be a little further or closer and stand in the pit. On a rotovertor, too, it is over one at only one flywheel speed and with one load, there will be a slowdown outside the range. The shape of the bucket of energy on the pressure of the medium is a vortex with the speed of the thermal run of molecules. And the magnetic domino effect demonstrates the free energy of the wave.

[@heinzpg]

@@_M_H_T_ If your assumptions are correct - I doubt them - ranges may be important. Let's see if someone finds the mm-gap where free energy is expected to stream in ... 🙂

[@_M_H_T_]

@@heinzpg Here, if the magnet is stronger, then the turn speed must be accelerated. This is important as when you break a ruler on a paper suspension and the force goes where it needs to. You can let the opposition through. But large masses can be compensated, but the shape will be very important. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWGQmp2erdh0ea8

[@heinzpg]

@@_M_H_T_ The device which is shown in your link is a scam, it does not work.

[@astursistemas]

Hello and thanks for your nice videos. If getting energy from magnets is so difficult to achieve, why not use another avenue, for example, search for Kapagen, it does not have mobile parts, and according to its inventor, it generates decent power. Regards.

[@miali2007]

The transmission of kinetic movement by means of an electromagnetic relay will reduce losses.

[@jotamoro1962]

Ok, we are Closer to get It!!! It' needed the "switching" between the poles.

[@theguess7]

Really nice build quality!

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks!

[@wimhuizinga]

Hi Motionmagnetics, I have followed your channel for a long time and I'm really excited you found the magnetic motor originally made by a man from the Netherlands. When I saw his invention on KZbin, I asked him if I could see the motor run. It turned out he lives nearby and he agreed to let me have a look. We met in the summer, outside on a terrace. He showed me his invention and let in run in font of me, on the table. It was amazing to see it in reality. He went away to get us some coffee and left me alone with the device for a moment. I inspected it to see if I could find any wires or other trickery. I couldn't. The feel it has when you let the magnet close to the 'flipper' is just natural. Not suspicious at all. But the thing was built on a piece of layered wood or multiplexed? I don't know what it's called exactly in English. I could only think of one way to fake it. Like you said, that's with the layered wooden base. If you carefully split it, or have two pieces to begin with, you could easily make a cavity inside for some electronics. Like a reed-contact, electro magnet, Hall-sensors and a circuit. But I never got to fully examine the thing. I asked him politely if he did anything with electronics in the wooden base, but he said did not do such a thing. And why would someone lie about it. The only thing that got me kind of worried was that he talked about KZbin views and where all his viewers came from. But it could also be just some casual talk. I still don't know if he made a fake or not. I seemed quite convincing to me. I already bought the same materials from the same construction market he did. I don't know if I'm going to get old microwave ovens or just order the ring magnets on the internet. I'm very curious how far you will come with this design. Also I have an interesting design myself, I only drew it on a piece of paper when I was still a kid, but I never saw anything like it on the internet (maybe I didn't search hard enough). My teacher at the time was so enthusiastic he jumped out of his chair to let another teacher have a look at it. The other teacher said it would violate the laws of thermodynamics. After that I was disappointed and never really looked back at it again. But when I saw your channel a few years ago, I got interested in the idea again. If you want my design, I'm happy to share it with you. Now I have a young family and cannot find the time to build it. I still have to finish my 3D printer. Some advise I got from the man who built the original: Try to get the friction to an absolute minimum. (he used sawing needles in brass tubes). Also balance the wheel with the magnets perfectly and have it turn on a very smooth bearing (the bearing he used comes from a model airplane), it should not tumble in any direction on it's own. Use screws for adjusting distances for various things. (he used brass flathead screws with a fine thread). It's important to use ring magnets because the magnetism right in front of the ring is very low in strength, this allows for the flipping magnet to turn easily. Good luck to you! I wonder how far you'll get building this thing ;)

[@heinzpg]

You can bet that the other teacher was right and this was a fake. The advice to reduce friction is a strange one. If the power gained from a device is so small that it hardly can overcome friction, how should it ever deliver a power which is needed for practical applications? If someone would have found a machine which violates best confirmed laws of nature he should be eager to convince outsiders that it is no fake by choosing an arrangement which rules out a fake and also by allowing any possible inspection. After all, he would be a candidate for the Nobel price and his name would become prominent in science history. And in addition it could help in solving the urgent energy problem of our planet. But all these guys are so modest that they don't want to become famous and also so selfish, that they don't want to help mankind ...

[@wimhuizinga]

@@heinzpg Yes, you're right. I think I've been fooled. But hey, I like to keep an open mind. I know the laws. Energy cannot be created or be destroyed. Deep down I wish we could make energy. Maybe there is something about magnets or gravity we don't know of yet. Or maybe I like to be fooled. I don't know what these people want. KZbin hits? Or do they like to think: haha, I fooled another one. They're so dumb and I'm soooo smart. I don't know..

[@heinzpg]

@@wimhuizinga Some people do enjoy to fool others. But money matters also. If you have advertising in your video you get money for clicks. And the subject "Free Energy" is a wonderful click bait. Those who hope free energy will be found, click. And those who want to explain that it can't work, click also. Some video authors even openly ask for donations to support their research work. I wonder if the incoming money is always used for that. Since some time there are even fraudulent companies around with styled websites offering free energy devices, which are of course never deliverable. Such companies try to rip off gullible investors. The conservation laws are amazing. One wonders, how can it be that in every arrangement forces in play sum up exactly to zero and thus no energy is produced. But there are other things in nature which are similar surprising although no one thinks about it. If an object floats in calm water, water pressure works from all sides, but the resultant horizontal force is always zero. Never mind what the shape is. It can be round on one side and flat on the other side or have any other sophisticated shape: horizontal forces of water pressure always sum up to zero, there is never a side movement of a floating object in calm water. If there would be a sideway movement, you could gain energy by it. My attitude is: if someone has found something extraordinary he should show it to experts and when they confirm the findings, there will be no more need to show it on KZbin. All newspapers would soon write about it. 😊

[@1goldenugget]

Check out the Searl Effect Generator. The way I see it, he uses the natural properties of magnets to move electrons that in turn create another magnetic field through induction. I really believe he's on to something.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I have. Very possible. It's an interesting device.

[@heinzpg]

Sorry, the Searl Generator does not produce energy. Searl was never able to show this in a credible way. All tests done by independent experts were negative.

[@moineagu1]

Brilliant project congratulations ❤

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks!

[@MrKaipirao]

Em um futuro bem próximo, teremos um MOTO PERPETUO com a simplicidade de mecanismo que não acreditarão na facilidade de disposição de pequenos imãs de neodímio, esperem e aplaudirão tal feito.

[@Towards32]

If the horseshoe magnet is positioned correctly, it does not affect the other magnetic pole, if it does, it can be deflected with an iron plate.... Half-skin arc magnet Etc

[@chaorrottai]

If you think of the orientation of the magnets as a "pole-state" you can do some interesting things with state changes and potential energy. What you need to do you pull with pole-to-pole attraction and then break away with lateral movement. Grab some magnetic viewing film and two magnets, I know you must have the film. Place the magnets in attraction together and observe the field as you pull the magnets appart latterally. At some point the two magents will stop looking like 1 magnet and each will be enclosed in it's own border, at this point the magnets repel if the ortientation remains locked. At a chosed separation distance, allow the magnets to rotate, they will align pole to pole and pull back together over the full distance. You only have to work to separate the magnets a small distance before they repel each other and assist your movement and you get all the energy of pole-to-pole attraction when they pull back together. It's easiy to pull strong magnets apart latterally. Treat that as a binary state, it's hard to pull them apart pole-to-pole treat that as a binary state. Energy harvest the difference in potential energy available by switching states.

[@abdulhamedsayah5091]

Very Good Project Thanks

[@harryverner6218]

Hav u ever lookd into the sine motor?

[@premkumarundrasapu7794]

Great work , keep experimenting

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks! Will do.

[@citizendc9]

Good job. In my heart I know these things, and more are possible.

[@juliuspekar7620]

isn't a trip how some of the ones we call "smart" think things like time travel, parallel universe are possible but not perpetual motion. many have came close to perpetual motion, no one has done anything "at all" with time travel.. Everything in nature points to perpetual motion being a "real thing". nothing in nature indicate that time travel is

[@anthonybaransky137]

What about a spring escapement for moving motion magnet to keep rotation in stator Or a counterweight escapement

[@Motionmagnetics]

Nice suggestion, I do enjoy escapements.

[@PALM311]

You can cut down on drag by using an axle through your flywheel that comes to a point on both ends, and then using polished bronze or brass, preferably bronze cups for the needle to be seated in. I build engines from scratch, and I have employed every possible way you can think of for less drag and the needle point on either end of your axle that goes through the flywheel is the most efficient way to go as far as drag goes. you want just the points of the axle to ride in these so-called cups. I haven’t used the needle axle in any of the engines that I have built because it’s not practical for what I do but for what you’re doing or for people who make gyros, for instance, or even tops use this method. And you want both the axle and the cups to be highly polished. Good luck with it!

[@ShawnRitch]

It looked to me that you could use the magnets on the wheel/rotor to actuate the propulsive magnet(s). Doing it that way would have less friction than the lever you show in this video and it would be much more precise.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Perhaps.

[@omnislasher2237]

Would adding weights to pull the barring down and hrlp it spin work if the magnets are strong enough?

[@Motionmagnetics]

It would probably increase the difficulty of getting the mechanism to function properly.

[@jeremyolson4280]

Consider a pair of voice coils in series instead of a lever, one actuated by a dedicated set of magnets driving the other in sympathy.

[@marioncampbell2589]

I was looking for the graphite motor attempt suspended on a string. You said that a bearing had too much resistance. What if the string was suspended from the center of a wheel inside a bearing.? As the string wound, it would slowly build enough tension for it to release in the bearing and keep spinning? Also, have you looked into Victor Schauberger (sp?). He was a forestry manager in Germany but was obsessed with natural fluid motions. He studied vortices and was reputed to have made improved products. There was also a lot of talk of magnetic and electromagnetic vortices being developed; even a connection to the reputed Die Glock.

[@Motionmagnetics]

The easiest way I've discovered is to hang the wire/string from a metal object under a round magnet. That's a simple way to make a very low friction bearing as there is very little contact with the round magnet which allows the object to spin more freely and for a longer period of time. His research is fascinating, to say the least.

[@sciencefreak9070]

@Marion Campbell Resistance of bearings can not be the cause that a magnet motor does not work. If a motor is so weak that he can't overcome such a resistance, the motor is not of much use anyhow. As to Schauberger, he did construct useful things in his younger years. Later he turned into a crackpot and made weird and absurd claims. His patents are on public display but no one uses them since they don't work as Schauberger claimed.

[@ThePearsch]

Use a counter-rotating wheel that has copper spacers to interfere with magnetic attraction at appropriate time.

[@nobody617]

Crazy. We built large scale motor that works like this. Nicknamed it the wobbler. We used air to make the magnets wobble. It was a 24" rotor with a number of wobblers. It had alot of torque, was low speed. Worked great. Got pulled off of it to work on permanent magnet aircraft launching system then maglev. The pmals is awesome. Robust. Off the shelve parts. Military asked us to do it. Admirals backed us up and wanted it in the carriers. They were in to deep with general atomics and threw more billions at it. Its way to complex. Should have gone with pmals. Pmals could be used on land however. Make short runways really fast. Plus permanent magner arresting gear. Simple proven stuff nobody knows about. All of it.

[@Motionmagnetics]

If that's real, it sounds interesting.

[@nobody617]

@@Motionmagnetics cheers!!

[@delburtphend6016]

I would like to show you an experiment that makes energy I used a sheet of plywood for a pulley. This pulley had two radii (1.0515 cm and 23.875 cm) from which I could suspend masses. These radii including the cord radius. I suspended 20.45 kg from both sides of the 1.0515 cm radius. I suspended .9 kg from both sides of the 23.875 cm radius. I accelerated these two arrangements with the same extra mass at the same position on 2.103 cm shaft. They all accelerated at the same rate. This means that .9 kg at 23.875 cm radius is as easily accelerated as 20.45 kg at the 1.0515 cm radius. .9 kg * 23.875 cm= 21.4875 20.45 kg * 1.0515 cm = 21.5 The machine produces .9 kg moving 22.7 m/sec just as easily it would 20.45 kg moving 1 m/sec. 232 J or 10 J

[@smoothmove7566]

Eventually it ends up being like that mirror in Harry Potter you can see your wildest dreams but they never actually work or come true. Nature is balanced and always will be.

[@yanfishtwig2356]

Hi please can you tell me what is the grey coloured filament used to print your motor? thanks

[@Motionmagnetics]

It's transparent black, from Hatchbox.

[@yanfishtwig2356]

@@Motionmagnetics Great thank you dude

[@yanfishtwig2356]

@@Motionmagnetics Hi i am very new to 3D printing. could you also say what type is it ie pla or tpu ect thanks

[@Motionmagnetics]

@@yanfishtwig2356 Sure. It's 1.75 PLA filament.

[@yanfishtwig2356]

@@Motionmagnetics great thanks again :)

[@tchannelkap7984]

Please make a generator based on falling metal balls on a large wheel that will spin and generate energy. The main thing here is that the balls fall within 24 hours, or at least 12 hours. Then a person will be able to pick it up again and they will fall again. Is it possible to stretch the time? Do something like this if it makes sense.

[@delburtphend6016]

It makes a ton of sense TChannel; in fact that is how it will be done. When a 99 kg wheel is accelerated by a 1 kg ball then the time that the dropping ball pulls down is 10 times as long as the time needed to return the ball to the top. It takes 20.19 seconds to pull down and 2.019 seconds throw the ball back up. You have 198.09 units of momentum and you only need 19.8 units to reload the system.

[@albertross2322]

Add 8 more magnets! There is far to much distance between the mere 4 and allows for a drag slowing the momentum

[@ALoonwolf]

You may want to take a look at gyroscopes. Being pulled down by gravity causes them to spiral upwards, but is the lift coming from the energy stored in the flywheel or is it coming from the downward force of gravity being redirected upwards by the bizarre nature of the object?

[@Motionmagnetics]

That's an interesting thought.

[@brettcrawford8878]

A mistake a lot of people make is that position of magnets 🧲 in finished construction is fixed and not adjustable. People need to pretend they are smart enough to realise that magnets might need to be moved in position and shifted and adjusted for better performance and a better chance to make them work. Lots of designs work fairly good. Have fun. What I have said is an extremely big hint as to how to make better designs.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Good point.

[@cayezara8110]

For deeper understanding of magnetism and electricity or simply, Electromagnetism, study the Maxwell Equations.

[@heathb4319]

Il like your attitude towards this. If you would like to see some very good ways to check for precision, loss of energy etc...i HIGHLY recommend Wintergatan marble machine videos. As an basic engineer with a tendency to learn myself like you do, i realized i wasn't thinking a certain way that i should be. Solved a few issues i had with some of my own projects. Give then a look and see what you think

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@digrannirctruck3771]

Essa réplica dentro da caixa de vidro, é de um cara do meu país, ele disse que durou 19 horas o giro

[@Chic0R-di7ki]

Instead of having the magnet go up & down how about letting it revolution it's way around so when it comes to the next revolution it should propel it faster with each revolution gained.you might have to adjust the 4 magnets down to 3 maybe. As long as you got a nice smooth bearing or maybe a bronze/brass bushing or the graphite bushing could do as well to like those used with shaded pole motors. Those suckers spin forever.

[@letropchiant]

That's really cool

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks.

[@lindaellison899]

cool!

[@cymacymulacra2301]

How about getting the gain up on this mobile so a small amount can be applied to an RF generator -- the RF can be used to power a catalytic reaction in activated carbon or graphite to split humidity H2O, which recombines with very usable protonic EMF. Graphite/graphene thin film on SiC is nearly superconductive at room temperature and can be used to harvest the energy. I guess then you'd have to be an electronics whiz to condition that output into popular output specs. I think that's generally how the PMMG generator works.

[@bigmouthstrikesagain4056]

@Motionmagnetics 0:57... I recognize those faces .... wouldn't think I'd see them here though

[@taooflifekenpo]

there are no failures , only ways not to build a magnet motor .

[@mpetty9947]

That is why a compilation of past designs (not working) available to anyone would make this entire field more efficient and then the sooner we reach a useful solution if there is one.

[@Spacekriek]

Hello MM, great channel you have. I like to experiment with gravity wheel designs. A while ago I basically recycled an older idea where I had a heavy chain running inside the rim of a wheel. My calculations indicated that my design delivered about twice the amount of work than the work required to keep the chain in the desired position. I'd like to share the idea if you have an email address. Maybe you can come up with a practical approach to turn it into a runner !

[@Motionmagnetics]

Do you have a video of it? Sometimes it's difficult to determine the efficiency of something on paper.

[@tahirzaroon5586]

Wow Amazing

[@androiduser4162]

build a searl effect generator i reckon you could do it

[@juliuspekar7620]

Forgive me for not staying with the issue of the video. when a thought comes to mind i just let it out. I don't know who to ask, so i ask everyone. Lets say a "runs by itself 24/7 " machine that has multiple mechanisms, & the timing of all the mechanisms is controlled with computer electronics "machine generates the electric power" . will it be considered perpetual motion?

[@earlwilson6153]

So Howard Johnson patents will not work ?

[@felixmeyer1972]

Da ich bisher 351 Videos hochgeladen habe, beschränke ich mich auf die Beantwortungen der Fragen, die sich direkt auf meine Videos beziehen. Außerdem arbeite ich an anderen Projekten, die meine Zeit ausfüllen. So gesehen habe ich leider keine Zeit

[@trench01]

I gave some suggestions before to help and makes me wonder if you read them and what u think.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I believe so, but that was a completely different system was it not?

[@trench01]

@@Motionmagnetics Tell me what your thoughts the various suggestions. Well yes and no. i did say another system which shows that its possible despite the naysayers and would be ncie if more show proof that tis possible. But besides that I also stated momentum being a factor since it seems like many give the v gate for example a small runway to get up to speed to jump to resistance which needs more speed and to compensate for the magnetic force. The other is the weight of the wheel since the heavier it is the less effect the magnetic resistance force will have to stop it as well. The issue is how long can a v gate get. Also another idea is magnets have an issue with electromagnets due to the airgap that copper wire has as its core as some people do. Also with electromagnets the other side not facing the magnet is gone to waste which 1/2 the the energy is gone. also that fast that around the copper coil is a waste which is another 1/2 gone. which is so inefficient. But even the coil is not proper since no one mentions ever the friction that comes with winding one next to the other which if you wind next to it a wire that is not part of the copper coil you will see electricity coming out of a wire that is not physically connected to anything.

[@anuarsalazar2705]

Quisiera replicar alguno de tus modelos cuál me recomiendas

[@Motionmagnetics]

The best one to build is the pedal generator, as it works right away and has a useful purpose.

[@anuarsalazar2705]

@@Motionmagnetics no inglés español subtitulado

[@colinhallatt30]

Has anybody ever tried these experiments in a sealed chamber in a vacuum or at colder temps different gasses etc.. etc...

[@louisesumrell6331]

My questions would be, "How permanent is a "permanent" magnet, really? And....,"does it have enough torque to do any useful work?"

[@Motionmagnetics]

Neodymium magnets can last 100s of years. This model definitely would not produce enough torque to do any useful work.

[@CHOWIXCHANNEL]

Cool leave next to the wavy ocean 🌊 put a foating stick connected to that magnetic hand 🙈

[@Motionmagnetics]

Or you could just use a waterwheel.

[@Mike-hr6jz]

You need to investigate gravity generators there are some very large ones they are using at the present time I believe if you combined this idea with some magnets, you could lift the magnets using their repulsive behavior and, of course, the weight generates the electricity, much like the big Ben clock did in England were once a week they would lift a huge weight, and it would turn the clock with those large hands, and once a week they would take a team of mules to lift up the counterweights like a giant grandfather clock when they replaced the system, it took a 40 hp electric motor to produce the energy needed to lift The counterweights, if the magnets we’re in steer like shape, almost like ball bearings, electric current could cause them to flow uphill into the container which would add weight, and when lowered on a ratcheting mechanism, it would generate electricity The same type mechanism that is used in some of today’s elevators and buildings instead of a breaking system when the elevator goes down with the weight of the occupants every third or fourth time this week drops it generates enough electricity to get one free ride up. it’s about efficiency similar concept just go online. And look up gravity generators, large scale

[@Motionmagnetics]

Good call, Mike! I've been working on several designs for a gravity generator for a couple of months now. You're right.

[@heinzpg]

One can learn many things by making own experiments, but this is limited. In a whole lifetime one can not do all the experiments competent scientists have done already. That's why it makes sense to also rely on the insights which were gained by experiments of others. One such fundamental insight is conservation of energy. Energy can't be gained, it can only be transformed from one form to another form. And there is also the insight, that permanent magnets do hold energy, but only a rather small amount and this energy is not spent when they exercise forces and this energy can't be tapped. Alltogether this leads to the insight, that permanent magnets can not drive a motor, never mind what designs and tricks are tried. Yes, there are such strange forms of energy in the quantum world as vacuum energy. But unfortunately we can't transform this energy in useful energy forms.

[@markwood2956]

Where u pull the rod down with your hand put a magnet on the end of leverage bar

[@markwood2956]

Then direct it to the wheel at the right timing

[@Motionmagnetics]

@@markwood2956 The precision and timing is the tricky part.

[@dosomething7930]

Try a LC tank circut ,xl=xc

[@Defense0001]

These machines require massive amounts of precision and skill to make, and these machines require a level of efficiency so great it’s very hard to overcome. So why the hell are using the actual motion of the machine to keep it going? Let the magnets run on their own. Make this machine flat, connect it to a magnetic generator (magnets spinning around a copper coil to create electric field), use a very minuscule amount of the electricity created to power a spring system that pushes the magnets. It’s feasible to create multiple of these units and have them run in parallel for 22 hours a day. It can be used in small and large scale power production. I’m just too poor to make it happen so I’m spreading the concept as far as I can until someone picks it up. All I ask for is credit and 1 stock in the company, or .1% royalties. Blueprints will come asap Edit: In depth- Two rings of neodymium magnets. 1 outer ring (positive poles facing inward), 1 inner ring (positive poles facing outward). The inner ring will be connected to high strength aluminum arms. The arms will all be connected at the base and hooked to a shaft inside a ball bearing. This shaft will spinning a magnetic generator beneath the kinetic system. The systems- Kinetic system consists of the two rings of magnets, aluminum arms, and a ball bearing. Electric system consists of the shaft, generator, motherboard and any essential wiring. Spring system consists of a tube, spring, plunger, brushless electric motor, and a system of gears. Hopefully I’ve explained enough for people to understand the vision and have the ability to create multiple versions of varying efficiency to patent and sell as their own. Preferably this can be a free device that kickstarts the process of becoming a post scarcity society. I can see how this will be used in many applications ranging from large to small, to very small. Good luck guys and let me know if you got it to work

[@ChristianHungary]

😉👍

[@teslabrasileiro]

Yes is possible 🌀

[@shambhuyadav8966]

Good morning sr

[@mikeanzarouth518]

Nice demo....keep going..hopefully, nothing impedes your endeavors!

[@savemars4383]

Commented to get more videos like this

[@Motionmagnetics]

I'm working on it.

[@jessieangeles7468]

Because of the gravity...no perpetual motion....except put a motor

[@mazenalfar5953]

شكرا لك كنت رائعا 🌹🌷❤️👍

[@miguelangelflechamolas9415]

Buen intento

[@serbaserbidunia4835]

Masih menjadi misteri

[@buensomeritano1755]

see Willian Skinner's gravity device of 1939

[@LuggageStardate]

You dont want to use all the metal because magnets. You are also not using the switch magnet right, its supposed to attract the magnets on the wheel then switch to repel at half way. No one thinks it works because they cant recreate it, its just another fake over-unity thing. Ball bearings might be worse than like a coat hangar wire on sleeves too.

[@dankem4947]

Hammer Arbeit!!!👍

[@delburtphend6016]

It was obvious to Newton that you could not conserve both energy and momentum. That is what F = ma is about. A ten kilogram flywheel moving 1 meter per second can give all of its motion to one kilogram. This one kilogram can be moving in a straight line or in a circle. The 10 kg has; ½ * 10 kg * 1 m/sec * 1 m/sec = 5 joule of energy: and the 1 kg has 50 joules (1/2 * 1 kg * 10 m/sec * 10 m/sec). The 10 kg will rise .051 m and the 1 kg will rise 5.1 m One kilogram can give a 9 kg flywheel (10 kg total) an arc speed of 1 m/sec after the one kg has dropped only .51 meters. And the one kilogram is thrown up 5.1 meters. 5.1 /.51 energy increase. This momentum transfer occurs in experiments like the Dawn Mission yo-yo despins. Or those on youtube Delburt Phend

[@Doggystyle944]

its sumthing fun too~ doo~

[@ericvogels8625]

Thanks for this video. I also put the project on hold, after failure: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYOnaY2efbN5rZo , but now I took it onto my worktable again and give it a new thought.

[@giannineve]

NO! Toys.

[@anuarsalazar2705]

Los modelos no se pueden replicar porque no explican los detalles.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I have most of the info on it and read the details, but I didn't try to create an exact replica. I simply treated it as a starting point for further experimentation.

[@1NEFFIBLE]

New sub, and both rumble accounts👍

[@Motionmagnetics]

Thanks for that!

[@richardthomas1566]

Snake oil no such thing as perpetual motion on this planet

[@Motionmagnetics]

Do you watch my videos? I've said that multiple times.

[@roshanpalaram8931]

No it's run on 8 magnet 4 in a well x 2 N and S . 4 coils 4 wire 4 output 1234 2341 3412 4123 . and have 4 collector 1 collector run 3 quarter turn change and stop connecting and 1 quarter discharge x4 what all your well is ok you need to put the magnet on it N S N S

[@juliuspekar7620]

At "2:34" If a machine makes the energy to power "a pulse" then what's wrong with that? .. Why do so many people say that some machine concepts are not "true perpetual motion" because if parts that will wear out, fail & need to be repaired. & some say that about machines that have battery (one or more) because they will get weaker in time. They are machines, they will always need new parts and repairs. It's bad enough so many say it's impossible, The n some one had to make things more complex with terms of judgement. The term "true perpetual motion".. i noticed many of those that say perpetual motion is impossible, also think time travel is a real thing. Many have come close to perpetual motion. No one has done anything with time travel. Time travel isn't evenb a thing

[@haehnelconrado3099]

Dejan de gastar dinero y tiempo en diseños que no funcionan ni pueden funcionar. Para hacer un motor magnético primero tienen que encontrar un material que permita hacer que el flujo magnético pase en un sentido y ni en el otro, esto es un DIODO MAGNETICO. Usen todo su dinero, tiempo e imaginación en investigar este tema, el que lo logre ganará mucho dinero, fama y resolverá el problema de la energía para la humanidad.

[@steskal2-uo4rr]

Call I don't c my post

[@_M_H_T_]

Are you making mistakes on purpose? Loosen ring magnets! Stick weak black magnets. Igor Beletskiy works at the beginning of the video. Make a COPY like his! It works until he removes his hand from the frame and the wheel slows down.

[@Motionmagnetics]

I'm not convinced the original motor worked. I'd like to believe so but there have been at least 4 people who have attempted to replicate his motor using microwave magnets like the ones he used and it didn't make any difference. One bought 40 of them and picked the best 4 to use on his motor, experimented with multiple types and sizes of magnets for the stator for 7 months, and was never able to make it work.

[@_M_H_T_]

@@Motionmagnetics Means did not please with the sizes.

[@valveman12]

They look cool, but none of them are perpetual. Perpetual motion is not possible.

[@Motionmagnetics]

Nothing in the physical universe can run forever. Even the stars eventually burn out.

[@letropchiant]

Magnetic Motor, looping by itself

[@Quickened1]

Perhaps a new terminology would be fitting. As motionmagnetics explained, the very universe itself is not perpetual. Therefore, let's come up with a catch phrase describing what something might do. That is, run for as long as the universe exists... A catch phrase that implies that something will run until the end of time... To me, something that does that, will for all intent and purposes, be a perpetual motion machine, even though not technically correct...

[@valveman12]

@@Motionmagnetics "Even the stars eventually burn out." Sure... But what does that have to do with a device running in closed loop? I.E. Generating enough energy to continue running under its own power. This would require an efficiency greater than 100%.

[@Motionmagnetics]

@@valveman12 Because it’s a moot point. You didn’t say none of them are a closed loop system, you said “none of them are perpetual”. Nothing in the known universe is perpetual. So you’re correct, none of them are perpetual. Closed loop is an entirely different subject. If a device uses gravity, barometric pressure, or any other means to induce continuous motion or rotation by combining an external force then it’s not considered a closed-loop system. Even if you angle magnets in the correct arrangement to trigger an exchange force pulse to use for rotation of a magnetic motor I don’t believe most physicists would consider that a closed loop system. That point is also moot, as I’m not attempting to create a closed-loop system. I’m attempting to do what Tesla suggested and build a device that draws power from the very wheelwork of nature, which does not violate physics. I’m after a very efficient machine. That’s all. I’ve read your comments over the years and you’re a pretty smart guy, so I thought you’d already figured that out by now.

[@antoniodallenogare4001]

Prova invece a fare il generatore John Searle

[@pp-uf4qo]

so finally it does not work as always 😄

[@Motionmagnetics]

lol

[@AntonioFidanzio]

fa piacere vedere che ce gente che si impegna a fare qualcosa invece fare con un attrezzo con le leve(6) dove la classe dei ingigneri rispondono sempre non si puo fare pero appena vedono il filmino chiedono come e fatto? lattrezzo e possibile vedere su KZbin scrivendo moltiplicatore di potenza dove con un motore elettrico di 1.5KW che fa 1400 giri che li riduco a 40 che sono uguali in uscita dove collego un generatore che mi da 13KW aumentando i giri a 1600 dove posso gollegare altri attrezzi (ALLINFINITO) e greare una centrale elettrica a costo zero (QUESTO SI CHE E MOTO PERPETUO)

[@manalit8]

Всё это красиво , вопрос? КТО НИБУТЬ ПОВТОРИЛ. ???

[@MT-xw4jx]

FAKE.. THIS NOT RUNNING

[@sandorkurucz2989]

Sajnos halva született ötlet.Semmi képen nem működhet a berendezés.Ha sikerülne olyan berendezést gyártani,amiben a befektetett energiát teljes egészében vissza lehetne kapni,akkor még mindig ott van a légellenállás,a súrlódás ,amit már nem lehetne ilyen módon legyőzni.Nem tudom miért nem látjuk be ,hogy ily módon nincsen örökmozgó!Tele van a net ilyen és ehhez hasonló sületlenségekkel .Csak arra kellene felfigyelni,hogy egyetlen egy bemutatott gyártmányt sem lehet utánozni ,nem másolhatóak.Ez meg csak azért van ,mert mindegyikben van egy kis csalás,rejtett akkumulátor,rejtett motor,vagy pedig a a felvétel készítés adta csalási lehetőség!