The Peugeot 3008 2017 car of the year review

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Bob Flavin

Bob Flavin

Күн бұрын

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@StephenButlerOne
@StephenButlerOne 7 жыл бұрын
The interior of this is stunning. The gt line (mid trim) is the one to go for.
@arnadalijagic9412
@arnadalijagic9412 3 жыл бұрын
Mid trim is Alure. I got one :)
@StephenButlerOne
@StephenButlerOne 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnadalijagic9412 I think they are all nice. Personally I thing the GT line is the best bang for buck. The GT isn't worth the 5k (iirc). Isn't there 4 trims? So both allure and GT line would be classed as mid. I'm trying to remember off memory from 2018 when I was looking for a new car. When they first came out it was the engines that put me off. 3 cyl was new and I didn't trust then such a small engine in a big car. I opted for a Leon ST FR 2.0 instead. Don't regret it, but the 3008 may be on my list next time round. Its the only suv that could tempt me from my life long choice of estates.
@arnadalijagic9412
@arnadalijagic9412 3 жыл бұрын
@@StephenButlerOne Mine is a 2018 model with Allure trim. Pretty sure that here in Norway there are only 3 trim levels of 2018 model but I`m honestly not sure. Mine is 1,2 petrol, 131hp and it works really well. I was also in doubt whether the small engine will work or not in such a big car but it really does. Of course one of the reasons is the price as well. If I went for petrol 180hp even with active trim level, the price would`ve been ridiculous. But I live in Norway...expensive country :) Agree with you that it looks really good... both inside and outside. I had mine now for 6 months and so far so good. Really good car! Greetings from Oslo!
@g00dfeeling
@g00dfeeling 7 жыл бұрын
Peugeot 3008 is car of the year role model. It is top quality car, with fabulous design looking to the future. Kodiaq is also good quality but it is too boring and it should be disqualified in the start as manufacturer is too conservative and is trying to match default taste with cowardly designed cars.
@dominicbronson5053
@dominicbronson5053 3 жыл бұрын
Dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you're bored like me during the covid times then you can watch all the new movies on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my brother during the lockdown =)
@renealdo1018
@renealdo1018 3 жыл бұрын
@Dominic Bronson Definitely, have been watching on Instaflixxer for years myself :)
@klackon1
@klackon1 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good, honest review. I have had my 3008 Allure 1.2 turbo auto for one week and it is brilliant. The exterior panels fit nicely and the interior has a really good build quality. I chose cumulus grey (silver to you and me) and it looks the biz. I part exchanged my BMW 520d for the 3008 and, to be honest, I don't see a lot of difference in build quality, certainly not £12000.00 worth, which is the extra amount I paid for my BMW. That car was fully loaded with head up display, heated steering wheel, xenon lights which shone around corners etc., but I don't miss it. Ride quality on the 3008 is not quite as good but nevertheless is very comfortable. I don't have a problem with the top of the steering wheel masking the instrument binnacle as the steering wheel is fully adjustable. I have yet to try Apple car play, as I alway listen to DAB radio these days, but I will look out for the issue you highlighted. The 3008 has a cockpit/interior like no other and it sold the car for me. The 3 cylinder, 1.2 litre engine plus auto gearbox works better than I expected and will do for me. I have travelled nearly 400 miles on urban/country lane/main roads/motorways and averaging 44 mpg at the moment. I nearly bought a Seat Ateca but very pleased I chose the 3008 at the last minute.
@guysolomon7904
@guysolomon7904 7 жыл бұрын
pete draper great to hear from an actual owner. I'm holding out for these to launch in Australia in October before starting my car search as I was close to getting a CX5 but have been somewhat captivated by the 3008. I too was looking at an auto 1.2l so I'm glad to hear it's working you!
@paulleggett9735
@paulleggett9735 7 жыл бұрын
pete draper hi, you have EXACTLY the model we are interested in, it what's the auto box like please? I can find no reviews and the dealer doesn't have one to test drive. Thanks
@klackon1
@klackon1 7 жыл бұрын
Paul Leggett: I was impressed by the 1.2 auto on the test drive but now I have owned it for three weeks I am amazed by it. I thought I would really miss the power of my BMW 2.0L turbo diesel; but I don't. This 1.2 auto is smooth, picks up well and I have had no problems overtaking on A roads or motorways. The only area where you need to be careful is when you have come to a stop on a fast, free flowing traffic island. I've discovered that the 1.2 auto is slightly slow to react when going for a gap in the traffic, but I have not had any problems, as such, to date. It is just a question of judging the gap properly. I have yet to try the sport mode so that may be the answer. I drove a Peugeot 2008 1.2L manual a couple of days ago, which appeared to be very quick in the lighter bodied car, but I prefer the auto box on my 3008. I've now travelled 760 miles and still getting about 44 mpg (this includes a lot more town driving than normal for me). I'm just trying to think of something bad to say about the Allure 1.2L auto but I have come up blank. Oh, some might find the tailgate a bit heavy. So far it is a cracking car, stuffed with useful tech - such as auto dipping door mirrors when reverse is selected.
@nicbarrax76
@nicbarrax76 7 жыл бұрын
What a relief to hear! :-D I've ordered the same model that you have, with the auto box and all. October seems very far off at the moment... Hahaha! You seem to have the same mpg as many other reviewers, so that's comforting too. Really hope you can enjoy the 3008 for many more miles! Btw, I also looked at the Seat Ateca, but I'm glad I ordered the 3008, the Ateca looks boring compared to it... :-D
@ojiefaye
@ojiefaye 6 жыл бұрын
Hi! How's your car now? I have this on my shortlist (Allure 1.2L Turbo Automatic) Still going good? I am torn between this or the 2018 Mazda CX5.
@fixertube
@fixertube 7 жыл бұрын
I like your style Bob. I've just bought the new little brother the 2008 and I love it. Regards from London. Keep up the good work.🤓
@TheQzak
@TheQzak 7 жыл бұрын
production quality has gone through the roof fair play bob!! don''t go too Casey on us tho!;p
@BobFlavinVideo
@BobFlavinVideo 7 жыл бұрын
I think I have the hang of it now alright!
@CharllesC78
@CharllesC78 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Bob! I just ordered the 5008 with 7 seat with Allure accessories.
@CharllesC78
@CharllesC78 6 жыл бұрын
After all I decided to cancel the Peugeot 5008 . It would take 6 months to take delivery of it. I went and bought a BMW Grand Tourer 220d . Much better car and better to drive!
@Roguetrainer
@Roguetrainer 7 жыл бұрын
How does it handle? What engine were you driving? Was the gearbox smooth? How were the seats? Front and back? Thanks.
7 жыл бұрын
Pay attention.
@harolds789
@harolds789 7 жыл бұрын
Air con via touch button? How good is the puretech petrol engines as wonder if smallest engine has enough poke. Diesel is it quiet?
@johnh.4510
@johnh.4510 7 жыл бұрын
Looks Fantastic.Rear visibility,, engine noise, road noise, chassis, road holding, boot capacity, rear passengers,interior build quality, warranty etc.? Love the style of the review but all of the above would make it more complete I feel.
@Loungelizard346
@Loungelizard346 9 ай бұрын
Bob🧐Have you heard of issues, with the wet belt on the 1.2 petrol?
@John-ob7dh
@John-ob7dh 28 күн бұрын
Change olis recommended every 65000 miles .plus the service oul intervals must be adhered to as dirty oil can cause the belt to degrade.
@Ardennes1944
@Ardennes1944 7 жыл бұрын
Finally hit 23k mark!
@ginnyanderson500
@ginnyanderson500 7 жыл бұрын
Why oh why can we not have these gorgeous cars, in Canada!
@marcinsobczak2485
@marcinsobczak2485 5 жыл бұрын
Because you have better and cheaper cars.
@joemclaughlin995
@joemclaughlin995 Жыл бұрын
Diesel version is one to go for with tremendous torque, better drive and 60's mpg !
@jaroroytapel
@jaroroytapel 7 жыл бұрын
Seems really well put together. The Camera seemed shaky at some points, is the comfortable as French cars are known to be?. My 406 is still going strong after almost 190,000km and being 16 Years old, only the Auto AL4 grarbox being silly sometimes.
@grantmarshall3026
@grantmarshall3026 6 жыл бұрын
Jarek Roitapfel I drove a 406 1.9 turbo diesel as a taxi,it was 18 years old when it was retired from service and had 451,000 miles on the clock. It was running perfectly but had too many suspension issues to fix due to it's age and didn't make financial sense to fix. I now drive a Peugeot 207 1.4 hdi which is 10 years old 😊
@irishredcrypto
@irishredcrypto 4 жыл бұрын
Any review of the 5008 coming ?
@Little_Britain74
@Little_Britain74 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Bob, when are you going to be testing the new CX-5 in Ireland?
@togce
@togce 7 жыл бұрын
What is the fuel consumption like in a 1.2 petrol engine, mile per gallon in the city is what i am interested in. i know what peugeot is saying but i want your numbers and maybe someone else too
@Sherukka
@Sherukka 7 жыл бұрын
"Everything goes black..." You didn't touch the button that makes the screen go black for easy on eyes driving in the night? All new cars has lot's of software bugs but there are constant updates (Windows here we come!).
@PTZOUTZ
@PTZOUTZ 6 жыл бұрын
yeah I mean those car reviewers are so out of touch with technology I doubt they know what software update means! hahahahaha :-)
@harolds789
@harolds789 7 жыл бұрын
Whats better over the old 3008
@Sherukka
@Sherukka 7 жыл бұрын
The old 3008 had only two (well one) bad points. The bearings don't last too long. The 3008 was the biggest car to have the same bearings as the smaller ones and with larger wheels it can be a problem. The BMW THP-engine was the other one and only Peugeot-sport versions are those that work because that's the only version that Peugeot had the rights to do own modifications to. The standard version (THP 156) was only developed/fixed by BMW (the contract sadly dictated this) and I don't think they ever got it bullet proof!? I think with the new THP 165 Peugeot has the rights to do own modifications. BMW and long lasting engines...well? :D
@tonyb1223
@tonyb1223 7 жыл бұрын
harolds789 the new 3008 SUV is just night and day compared to the old one, ive a 2ltr BlueHDi GT Line and it comes in at around 1400kg, compare that to my RCZR at 1280kg and you start seeing the weight saving, but not just that, the materials used are top quality, its very roomy and very comfortable on long trips. The tech is top notch and its easy to use, everything is on the keys, you still have to adjust the temp on screen but it now has a mono function compared to the 308 and the screen os far more sensitive so just a light touch instead of a hefty prod. Car handles well, rear view camera is great (also has a top down view when close to obstacles) and the suspension absorbs even the heftiest of pot holes well. Well worth looking at one if you need a replacement and the boot is hugh at 951ltrs.
@sleepingbanshee_
@sleepingbanshee_ 6 жыл бұрын
You gain a subscriber :) mainly because of your cinematic intro.
@BobFlavinVideo
@BobFlavinVideo 6 жыл бұрын
Why thank you!
@karlm3474
@karlm3474 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review. However, you keep on comparing it to the Kodiaq while the one that is the most comparable to the Kodiaq is the 5008.
@ericrochford3134
@ericrochford3134 7 жыл бұрын
You're getting great use from that drone, must add quite a bit of extra time making the videos though? Interesting to see how the 3008 holds up long term quality wise!
@GeorgeFalls
@GeorgeFalls 7 жыл бұрын
At 0:14. First rule of drones. Do not include shadow of said drone.....lol
@typhoontim125
@typhoontim125 7 жыл бұрын
Eagle eye George! You're very fussy!
@ericrochford3134
@ericrochford3134 7 жыл бұрын
George Falls Ah we'll have to give him a chance, still early days!
@typhoontim125
@typhoontim125 7 жыл бұрын
Lads, seeing a feint shadow of the drone isn't a problem is it? You see it regularly on drone footage on national TV, nevermind on youtube! I mean it's not as if we don't know that the footage is being filmed by a DRONE, right, so a drone shadow every now and again is to be expected :-) We know that Bob hasn't strapped his canon camera to a very obedient PIGEON or that Bob hasn't just purchased a HELICOPTER......YET anyway! ;-)
@GeorgeFalls
@GeorgeFalls 7 жыл бұрын
He's got two choppers... LOL
@keithisaacs6092
@keithisaacs6092 5 жыл бұрын
Very pretty car but beauty is only skin deep i prefer my models with rounded bottoms and tops I'd been looking for a new suv for several months after hearing of electrical problems with the Peugeot which is common with French cars interior build quality didn't seem good either i was very close to buying a Ford c max which drives superbly although build quality is also only average then i test drove the skoda karog which completely blew me away build quality is first class and it drives very smoothly with little wind or road noise so far I've done 11,500 miles of serene driving with no problems it's a car that's a pleasure to own.
@utubeleplague
@utubeleplague 7 жыл бұрын
Wish I could get one, but they are hell expensive and surely these won't be losing value like older french cars used to now that they are reliable, well built and so beautifully gorgeous.
@thedons4270
@thedons4270 7 жыл бұрын
Bob you just said what I don't like about the skoda! "you can just drive off in the kodiaq and its the same as everything else!"... There's the problem the likes of skoda and seat are just the same copy and pasted vw products year in year out. its getting so repetitively boring and dull now. Thats why the 3008 wins for me and loads out there. Not to mention higher running and maintenance costs associated with vw products these days. hush hush on their diesel scam too.
@Ribeirasacra
@Ribeirasacra 7 жыл бұрын
Pugs of old last a long long time. More than Škoda. 6:30 onwards".......Just jump into the Škoda drive off and you will not really worry about things because they are all the same as everything else". Next time please just say plain and simply boring.
@Ribeirasacra
@Ribeirasacra 7 жыл бұрын
I am not allowed to say VW group has a boring style? Look at the French Flare. The last German car I thought had flare was..emmmm...please give me a minute or too...... BTW I live in Europe so small GBs do not have any impact on my life. :-)
@dabro9o
@dabro9o 7 жыл бұрын
Show me some
@dabro9o
@dabro9o 7 жыл бұрын
So, I still see quite a few Peugeots near the top, some above Skoda and Volkswagen, your point was they should be near the bottom.
@dabro9o
@dabro9o 7 жыл бұрын
Not clutching at straws, merely pointing what I am trying to achieve. I'm not a car expert either, I just don't like the blind faith of people in the "german cars are the best, while cars starting with F (Ford, Fiat and french) suck". It might have been true 20 years ago but it is not anymore. In fact, VW group cars are known lately for being pretty faulty (not to mention infamous TSI engine range). I'm not trying to advocate that french cars are better, that's probably not true for a lot of car models. It's just they are not as bad as people paint them to be, nor they are near the end of the list of reliability. Cheers.
@adriandabrowski8987
@adriandabrowski8987 7 жыл бұрын
Not once I said anything about french electronics so dont put words in my mouth. I had 3 french cars in my family and two german. Biggest problem with french car electronics was I had to change light bulbs more often and a broken radio. On the other hand, german passat was drinking as much engine oil as petrol not to mention the bloody timing chain issue of 1.4 TSI golf. You keep talking as if I was saying french cars are the best in the world and all I'm saying, they are just as good as german. Both with their own set of flaws.
@FloydFlannigan
@FloydFlannigan 7 жыл бұрын
Where's your boosted board?
@BobFlavinVideo
@BobFlavinVideo 7 жыл бұрын
+FloydFlannigan www.patreon.com/thenextgear 😘😜🤑
@rolando6297
@rolando6297 7 жыл бұрын
Woooooooowwww....what a nice Car 😍😍😍😍😍
@146fitz
@146fitz 7 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one .1.2 petrol.
@thomaspowell3739
@thomaspowell3739 6 жыл бұрын
Stunning car
@GeorgeFalls
@GeorgeFalls 7 жыл бұрын
One thing I've always found confusing. How can any car be voted 'Car of the Year', before the current year is over...? I see cars gleaning this title as early as January or February... How the F can they know...!!!!
@harolds789
@harolds789 7 жыл бұрын
As much interior space as the skoda and the Nissan mombobile
@originaldeftom
@originaldeftom 7 жыл бұрын
I love French cars and gosh I would love to own this vehicle....I really would.
@alancarter8396
@alancarter8396 7 жыл бұрын
Managed almost 2 minutes, laborious isn't the word.
@matthewhanrahan4324
@matthewhanrahan4324 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video as always Bob :)
@BobFlavinVideo
@BobFlavinVideo 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers fella
@SunsmileMaria
@SunsmileMaria 7 жыл бұрын
I think the small size of the steering wheel is to give the driver more ease and space to use the rest specs on the dashboard.
@issiewizzie
@issiewizzie 7 жыл бұрын
wait for the long-term test review then i will get one
@PTZOUTZ
@PTZOUTZ 6 жыл бұрын
Ι mean you will be hard pressed to find a car in this price range that ticks so many boxes.. Exterior and interior design, quality of materials, wow factor, fully electronic digital instrument panels, car play-android auto, bluetooth, tom tom navi with live traffic and navigation simultaneously showing on lcd screen and front instrument panel, two color modes for instrument panel (copper and blue), electronically folding heated mirrors, active lane assist, window mirrors blind spot tracker, active brake assist, driver fatigue detection, cruise control and speed limiter, automatic led lights with cornering and led fog lights, rain sensing wipers, automatic dual zone climate control,sport leather steering wheel with controls and voice commands , interior atmospheric lighting and fragrance, sport bucket half leather-half cloth seats with adjustable back support, real time speed traffic signs recognition camera, parking sensors front-back with reversing 180 degrees camera, 18 inch diamond cut alloy wheels, mud and snow tyres, advanced grip control for snow, mud, sand and steep hill descent mode, 591 lt boot.... great diesel engine euro 6.2 with ad-blue technology.. I mean it's fully loaded.... I got mine, a gt-line 1.5 diesel bluehdi manual for 33000 euros!!!! show me a car that can beat this. A skoda kodiaq with the same amount of features would cost 47000 euros
@pap_chr5063
@pap_chr5063 2 жыл бұрын
Skoda is much cheaper. Skoda is mainstream,, peugeot is semi premium to premium.
@poobum9857
@poobum9857 7 жыл бұрын
Love the look but 2 wd !
@gamerscockpit
@gamerscockpit 7 жыл бұрын
Pity he commented on how may km he had done at 335 and not 333
@BobFlavinVideo
@BobFlavinVideo 7 жыл бұрын
+gamerscockpit thirty three and a third 😏
@vincentrolfe1384
@vincentrolfe1384 7 жыл бұрын
My second wife had a flat bottom and top. Like the Peug. Bob, don't mean to be too personal, but, I wonder if you shouldn't have a health examination in the near future.? Something is going on there.
@adam85296
@adam85296 7 жыл бұрын
Who makes this car? Poigeot Bob?
@raygrace7020
@raygrace7020 7 жыл бұрын
Bob said he drove 335 km for less than a quarter of a tank .This works out at over 70 mpg which is way off the mark.One would be lucky to get 60 mpg
@tomheard7844
@tomheard7844 7 жыл бұрын
Love ours
@tomapopescu2425
@tomapopescu2425 7 жыл бұрын
I don't but a peugeot because of that hydeous touch screen
@fmsantoscar
@fmsantoscar 7 жыл бұрын
The steering wheel though.....🤢
@daveobeirne
@daveobeirne 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that the touch screen is a bit overly complicated. takes a bit of getting used to. Nice car otherwise
@trefod
@trefod 7 жыл бұрын
Digital speedometers are a horrible idea. I wish they would stop putting them in cars.
@Sherukka
@Sherukka 7 жыл бұрын
I agree that as they are now (even Audi), they don't give you anything that you would miss out on, except you can sometimes have a hard time see anything from them. Keep it simple stupid is my way, it means for example only arrows to show you which way to turn next and so on. Google maps in the speedo gives you nothing more, I know, I've been driving those cars enough to know. It is more about the hype and how it is affecting people who buys cars. Nothing really new in cars nowadays. I miss great innovations, like new suspension setups that would rock the world etc. Now, even new Mercedes cars give you nothing new!! The speedo in this 3008 is at least something new, it is located 100% at the right spot and looking through the steering wheel seems stupid after you get used to this.
@trefod
@trefod 7 жыл бұрын
Personally I find that I pay way too much attention to my speed on a digital speedometer. I just need to know that I am in the ball park, say between 58 and 62 in 60Km/h zone. With a digital speedometer and the eternal threat of speed cameras I no longer pay attention to traffic, only that I am perfectly keeping to the speed limit. It's involuntary I can't help it and thus can't drive cars with digital speedometers.
@Sherukka
@Sherukka 7 жыл бұрын
trefod Aah, you mean the digital numbers! I find it works even better if the update frequency is slow enough.
@StephenButlerOne
@StephenButlerOne 7 жыл бұрын
I like a digital speedo, far easier to glance at, when you see the yellow boxes.
@jefftspang
@jefftspang 7 жыл бұрын
it has a customisable digital display. i am certain thay one of the settings is bound to suit your liking :)
@JAG1651
@JAG1651 7 жыл бұрын
I think I'd have to errr towards the Kodiaq, but that's just a personal thing of having 2 kids, and 2 sets of stupid Golf clubs to haul around on holidays etc. For me, the boot space on the Peugeot is just too small in comparison to the Kodiaq to cope. But that's a very personal thing relevant to my family, and for many others, I can see why that isn't quite so important and that the Peugeots' boot would be plenty big enough. But for me and my Family, the Kodiaq wins all day long. Taking nothing away from the Peugeot though, it has that typically French flair to aspects of it's design which I do like............it's just those damn Golf Clubs!!
@tonyb1223
@tonyb1223 7 жыл бұрын
JAG sixtyfive the 5008 is the one you need then, thats the one more comparable due to its size, BUT the 3008's boot is pretty damned big, the amout of kit i get in the back is pretty impressive :)
@alinfin
@alinfin 7 жыл бұрын
JAG sixtyfive Look for a three comparation review on youtube Carwow channel to see that those Golf clubes just make themselves at home in the 3008 trunk. Take a look.
@JAG1651
@JAG1651 7 жыл бұрын
+Alin Ionescu Normally I would agree as I've seen that vid, but when it comes to 2 sets of Clubs together with 2 adults and 2 childrens worth of Clothing which equates to 3-4 large suit cases and it all becomes a little too small for our needs. I hear what another poster said about the 5008, but the Kodiaq has the 5008 again. If we just had all the bags with no golf clubs on top of that, then I would be all over a 3008.
@alinfin
@alinfin 7 жыл бұрын
Not those bloody golf clubs again!! Get rid of that hobby! It takes too much of your space. ))
@Mr.M1STER
@Mr.M1STER 7 жыл бұрын
The car looks nice outside in white. I know a guy that bought one in gold and it is not nice at all. The steering wheel and touch pad protruding from the dash are both horrible.
@MegaBenjo88
@MegaBenjo88 6 жыл бұрын
Pughgeot
@BobFlavinVideo
@BobFlavinVideo 6 жыл бұрын
I also say three kinda funny :D
@hd2000
@hd2000 Жыл бұрын
Pew Joe
@tomapopescu2425
@tomapopescu2425 7 жыл бұрын
By
@minnietoby
@minnietoby 6 жыл бұрын
Can't rely on French cars, & if something goes wrong, it's an arm & a leg to fix,
@Vito6435764
@Vito6435764 7 жыл бұрын
Car is very poor quality, heater and fan screen frozen, plastics and speakers making noise, app on mirrolink not working properly. owner for 2mon.
@alinfin
@alinfin 7 жыл бұрын
Tell us more about your 3008. I heard the engine bonnet makes a funny noise and lot of shaking when you go over 120 Km./h. Is it true?
@agate986
@agate986 7 жыл бұрын
Vytautas Kristopaitis bullshits the car is fantastic...no noise above 120km/h and it's very stable at all conditions....even on roundabouts!!
@davidrichards1253
@davidrichards1253 6 жыл бұрын
Car of the year 😂😂 it's a school run suv nothing more then that. About as exciting to drive as working in an office 9 to 5
@BobFlavinVideo
@BobFlavinVideo 6 жыл бұрын
A car of the year choice has little to do with an exciting drive.
@PTZOUTZ
@PTZOUTZ 6 жыл бұрын
not exciting to drive? it has so much tech inside you will need 1 month to fully grasp what you just have bought
@bachi411
@bachi411 7 жыл бұрын
French cars are joke
@Sherukka
@Sherukka 7 жыл бұрын
Biased readers/watchers are a joke
@alfamonk
@alfamonk 7 жыл бұрын
said 15year-old BMW boy.
@alinfin
@alinfin 7 жыл бұрын
asheesh tiwari Indeed they are in fact good jokes. But you are a bad joke, Fritz.
@fabioLANDES
@fabioLANDES 7 жыл бұрын
C'est ça Rachid c'est ça
@Dreadpirateflappy
@Dreadpirateflappy 4 жыл бұрын
Above BMW reliability wise nowadays. :)
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