The Philosophy of Chaos Control

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@Ranni
@Ranni 3 күн бұрын
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@hydrocityshark
@hydrocityshark 2 күн бұрын
There’s the ongoing debate on whether Shadow’s chaos control should only be used when an emerald is in his possession or not. This video explains why it can really work either way.
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think the consensus is that Shadow can use Chaos Control without an emerald, but an emerald just amplifies the power of Chaos Control.
@nightlydata2181
@nightlydata2181 2 күн бұрын
I think he can use chaos snap but other moves R not doable without an emerald for shadow
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 Күн бұрын
I see the use of Chaos Emeralds as regulators for Chaos Control. He can do it without them but they help to make it easier to pull off and with consistency.
@spidersonic-b5q
@spidersonic-b5q Күн бұрын
He's used it without a emerald in forces.
@bluestar5812
@bluestar5812 2 күн бұрын
5:10 In Sonic Rush, Sonic tells Blaze one must have a strong will to control the power of the Chaos Emeralds. It is only after Blaze overcomes her internal doubt that she atains the ability to harness the energy from the Sol Emeralds.
@DaltonIsaacs-fn3bb
@DaltonIsaacs-fn3bb Күн бұрын
Maybe the reason that certain characters don’t use Chaos Control as frequently as someone like Shadow is based on their personality. Shadow uses Chaos Control often because he was created with the aid of the emeralds, so maybe it’s more difficult for others that don’t have the same genetic link to them. In Sonic’s case, he’s the embodiment of chaos. He does what he wants, stops threats when they arrive (never really pursues them when they’re not attacking, tho), and sometimes causes the mess himself. He’s essentially uncontrollable. Chaos Control, which gives it’s user a certain level of power over typically uncontrolled forces, would probably take more of a toll on someone like Sonic who isn’t used to having things under control. Loved this video, you did a great job diving deep into this weird plot MacGuffin.
@ARfritz
@ARfritz 2 күн бұрын
There are 4 letters I’d use to describe Shadow, and those letters are G.O.A.T..
@evergreen_kate
@evergreen_kate 2 күн бұрын
“Oh Snap Ranni did another philosophical Sonic video!” Instantly saves to watch later and waiting for a moment to fully focus. Shit’s about to get REAL.
@SonicTheory96
@SonicTheory96 2 күн бұрын
This was a great video! Framing the will to power as the equivalent of chaos control is something I never thought I would hear but it is thought provoking!
@CaptainF123
@CaptainF123 2 күн бұрын
We need a Shadow Game where he loses his powers and has to rechannel himself to get it back. Basically Spiderman 2 but with Shadow
@hydrocityshark
@hydrocityshark 2 күн бұрын
Nah, the less Shadow plays like a Sonic reskin, the better.
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
I feel like Shadow Generations' story and gameplay will feel very similar to Spider-Man 2 on the PS5.
@furious_pie466
@furious_pie466 Күн бұрын
Reminds me of Metroid prime where you start with a good range of abilities but then lose them in the tutorial and to recollect them throughout the game while also getting upgraded versions and even new abilities
@LobotomyTC
@LobotomyTC 2 күн бұрын
I like how Archie interpreted this as Sonic being the living embodiment of this type of chaos, being the one character most exposed to chaos energy in the series. In that context, Chaos Control is quite literally probability field manipulation. It's actual godhood. Sonic the Hedgehog is literally just a westernized Dragon Ball.
@valtaoi9334
@valtaoi9334 2 күн бұрын
Not dragon ball
@LobotomyTC
@LobotomyTC 15 сағат бұрын
@@valtaoi9334 It's literally Dragon Ball from story structure, characterization and world building, all the way down seven mystical gems and super forms.
@valtaoi9334
@valtaoi9334 6 сағат бұрын
@@LobotomyTC power rings comes form dragon ball? All super forms too? Freedom fighters? Enerjak? Dragon ball is way different or tell me which dragon ball?
@tadeolaguarda6965
@tadeolaguarda6965 2 күн бұрын
I like this, for the last months i have actually been forming a very similar idea to this as my headcanon for how Chaos control works Even though i did it whitout philosophy and the comic in mind. How caos energy is a representation of actal chaos and it's endless posibilitys and caos control is using ones strong will and desires to Channel it into making the world as you want it to be, the idea that chaos is actually everywere and shadow is able to use it the chaos inside and around himself to chaos control to a degree whitout the need of chaos emeralds which are not special because of the kind of energy they have,but because of the amounts they poses, so much that they can allow anyone whit a strong enough will and/or desire to do chaos control regardless of wheter they are as naturally receptive to chaos as Shadow, Silver or Even Sonic.
@BlackFlash09
@BlackFlash09 Күн бұрын
"Chaos is power, enriched by the heart."
@dralx2042
@dralx2042 2 күн бұрын
"Suffer long and it will set you free. Only through trials do we find the strength need". This is why I see _All Hail Shadow_ as Shadow's true theme. It captures these themes so well
@MisterMii601
@MisterMii601 Күн бұрын
After you mentioned the connection to Greek mythology, it made me wonder if that’s a direction Sonic Team wants to take for the narrative and lore of the Sonic universe. With everything you explained in the video and the names of the islands in Sonic Frontiers could actually be an interesting idea for the world of Sonic
@aubrey_shadow13
@aubrey_shadow13 2 күн бұрын
Once again you take a topic I've always had marinating in the back of my mind and you turn it into an authentic and well constructed essay. I never knew Shadow said that in Sonic Battle, how his sorrow and love for Maria gives him power. You also made me think of my favorite song Take Control from Old Gods of Asgard, and reading those lyrics through Shadow's perspective is really cool. Damn and I gotta say the thumbnail? 🔥 you cooked with that too.
@meganshaw1949
@meganshaw1949 2 күн бұрын
That’s what makes him such a great rival to Sonic. Shadow represents order while Sonic is more of a chaos character.
@Dog1167
@Dog1167 Күн бұрын
So basically shadow is batman and sonic is the joker
@AYTM1200
@AYTM1200 2 күн бұрын
I've had this EXACT head canon about chaos control and this is something I just made up in my head head but it perfectly aligns with what you're saying. Chaos control allows for manipulation of energy, space and time either by using ones own internal chaos energy or external sources like the chaos emeralds. Anyone can theoretically do anything with chaos enegy and no specific chaos ability is for a specific person (like how Sonic used chaos control to warp even though that's not his main power like Shadow). Depending on your personality and life experience or even your ancestry the will of different people manifest in different ways OR which type of Chaos Control you'll be best at using. For Sonic I always thought his will is free and wind like nature makes his chaos ability manifest more as speed. For Shadow his will comes from trauma from loosing Maria and his abilities are a manifestation of that. When Shadow was inside the pod he thought only if he could've teleported out of it, could release an attack to take out all the soldiers, stopped time to slow the bullet. This will manifests as chaos snap, chaos blast and chaos control respectively. This is just my idea on the topic 😅.
@evergreen_kate
@evergreen_kate Күн бұрын
LMFAO “Who would’ve thought that a RAT from space would teach us so much about philosophy?” 😂😂😂 I think that’s another reason why we’re so drawn to him. This video is the perfect essay of why. Another wonderful video from you about Shadow and delving into philosophy. 👏 I love your content.
@axiom6000
@axiom6000 2 күн бұрын
Phenomenal video! I think your analysis is actually 100% correct.
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah, the parallels are kinda crazy.
@atlas_uraeus
@atlas_uraeus 2 күн бұрын
We just got confirmation that black doom did not have any involvement in the Biolizard. But yes, still technically Eggman and Maria's uncle
@TotallySkeptic
@TotallySkeptic 2 күн бұрын
still watching even tho i lost interest in sonic 😎 keep it up, ranni!! ill watch every vid even tho i don't watch sonic anymore!!
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support Skeptic! I appreciate it!
@SonicForges
@SonicForges 2 күн бұрын
Great to see another video! Can't wait for more!❤
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
More to come! Thanks for watching!
@azian553553
@azian553553 2 күн бұрын
I actually am excited cuz I have no idea how chaos control works. Was wondering why sonic never used it or knuckles
@hydrocityshark
@hydrocityshark 2 күн бұрын
I think it may have something to do with Sonic’s preferred fighting style. He’s confident that he’s untouchable because he’s fast, so why use teleportation as a safeguard?
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
I think a lot of it has to do with mastery. I feel like he can use chaos control, but he's not as good as Shadow.
@tadeolaguarda6965
@tadeolaguarda6965 2 күн бұрын
I think that if he were to try hard enough, and whit some practice Sonic could defenitly use chaos control even whitout an emerald, i mean, he even managed to do it for the first time whitout a real emerald, but i believe It's just not his style, he would do it if he really needed to, but he prefers to face his enemy directly whit his own abilitys.
@ashooaway
@ashooaway 2 күн бұрын
Philosphy of Chaos Control preceeded by a Family Guy ad 😂
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Quite fitting honestly
@JakeThehedgehog-m1x
@JakeThehedgehog-m1x 2 күн бұрын
I just want him to have his character redemption like sonic,tails, knuckles and amy(along with a little character growth nothing massive or anything) had in frontiers i just want the same thing happen for shadow otherwise this whole year of Shadow will be pointless he's been neglected for 13 YEARS NOW!!! Since 2011 But honestly i enjoyed this analysis video out of all sonictubers i actually enjoy yours more it's nore interesting when you always brought up philosophy
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support man! Yeah, I try as best as possible to bring more depth into my videos rather than just regurgitating information. And also, with SonicxShadow Generations, the Dark Beginnings miniseries, Shadow's manga accompanying Generations/Dark Beginnings, and Sonic Movie 3, I think Shadow will have his time to shine this Fall/Winter.
@JakeThehedgehog-m1x
@JakeThehedgehog-m1x 2 күн бұрын
​​@@Ranni you see my only concern is that Ian flynn is writing the story of SXS generations now don't get me wrong I don't hate the guy I personally like his work in IDW and their potrayal of the characters but the only character he did not get right was shadow!! Remember metal virus saga he decided to completely remove him from the plot because he is too overpowered and must have sonic to handle this issue but the way he chose to do it was the most dumbest way possible!! He completely made him like an idiot and got corrupted..this was really out of character so I have my concerns that will he get shadow right this time? Well..we shall see he better not mess this up!!
@nightlydata2181
@nightlydata2181 2 күн бұрын
@@JakeThehedgehog-m1x The dialogue is I think alr to be proven to be diff between the jp & en scripts so if u don't like wut Flynn puts out maybe lookin up the jp script will help u like the story more
@JakeThehedgehog-m1x
@JakeThehedgehog-m1x 2 күн бұрын
​@@nightlydata2181 i just don't like how he written shadow in the comics I'm not a hater i like how ian flynn and evan Stanley both together potrayed sonic(for the most part),amy, knuckles,tails,blaze,silver,tangle, whisper,cream,chaotix team etc...there are plenty of good potrayals they have done for the IDW sonic 👍 except shadow...he gets the worst writing ever!
@nightlydata2181
@nightlydata2181 2 күн бұрын
@@JakeThehedgehog-m1x I never spoke on the other stuff I only said that for shadow gens if u don't like wut Flynn put there u most likely have an alternative to compare that's all
@silverlightning2214
@silverlightning2214 2 күн бұрын
Good vid and all, only problem for me is using the Archie comics at all considering that they are not connected to the current lore, so the chaos force I don’t think is actively a thing not that I know off personally
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think from what I’ve gleaned online that apparently the chaos force is canon in the games, but I could be wrong...Either way the concept of the chaos force is pretty fascinating.
@tadeolaguarda6965
@tadeolaguarda6965 2 күн бұрын
True, but i believe the idea of Caos energy being everywere in minor amounts and not just whitin the emeralds can, even If never stated or even fully intended, still be pull from the games as an explanation of many thing on the franchise, how Sonic was able to do chaos control whit a fake emerald that shouldn't have had enough energy to do it, Shadow being able to do chaos control whitout emeralds, and honestly anything You want, if caos energy can be use as a way to manifest ones desires into reality it could Even explain how Sonic and Shadow become stronger just by being themself, Sonic constant desire for speed, freedom and protecting his Friends and Shadow desire to be strong enough to protect the earth and rivary whit sonic could make it so, whitout them Even knowing it the caos energy around them is constantly working to make them stronger, the reason why when a group of people fight together each one of them is noticibly stronger than when fighting alone, their combine Will and desire for an outcome causing the caos around them to alter reality in small ways to make said outcome more likely.
@carolineneh2791
@carolineneh2791 2 күн бұрын
You know rent is due when my man Ranni uploads Also I subscribed BTW
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@nightlydata2181
@nightlydata2181 2 күн бұрын
Might be a bit outside wut is meant in the vid(might fit the prior shadow vid more tbh but this is a "better" opportunity for it to be seen I feel). Sonic & shadow R both supposed to be embodiments of chaos itself. Bein of those few in their universe that can use the emeralds to such an extent as they do. In shadows case he's the 1st to be shown usin chaos control specifically. Shadow has always been a character that's existence has largely been used to further other's goals or wishes. Gerald, Maria, BD, U.F./G.U.N etc etc. & was always strongly influenced by others in wut path he should take. Shadow IS chaos *CONTROLLED*. I think he takes over that control of his own self, path, purpose, & overall existence when the last move he uses at the end of his game parallels his 1st ever appearance. Usin Chaos Control. There R prob more character reasonins as to Y but thematically I think it's Y it fits "best" that shadow is the ONLY character who uses this ability regularly & not sonic or silver
@jadestewart6014
@jadestewart6014 2 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. They're fun and informative.
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the vids!
@jadestewart6014
@jadestewart6014 2 күн бұрын
@@Ranni I have been watching your content for a while now. I love your videos.
@gonfreecs4627
@gonfreecs4627 2 күн бұрын
Thx u for u vids about philosophy in the Sonic licence. I think its a lil bit extrapolated but that what i like about it
@rageinducing8368
@rageinducing8368 2 күн бұрын
10/10 video. Wisecrack would approve 🔥🔥
@hotcoco2413
@hotcoco2413 2 күн бұрын
I love the ideas of chaos and chaos control, it’s my personal belief that Sonic was made of pure chaos and is why he’s so powerful . [ Fri 11:02pm 9/20/2024 ]
@chunkykong01
@chunkykong01 2 күн бұрын
I absolutely love these philosophy videos, please make as many as u want
@DaltonIsaacs-fn3bb
@DaltonIsaacs-fn3bb Күн бұрын
I’ve commented here already, but I thought of something else. You mentioned how Sega might’ve unintentionally referenced Greek cosmology when creating Chaos Control, but as of Frontiers, the Starfall Islands are all named after Greek myths. Maybe Sega’s recognized the connection, and are trying to play into it?
@戴劭名-z8p
@戴劭名-z8p 21 сағат бұрын
sonic saw shadow use it once and learned how to use it. silver saw shadow use it once and learned how to use it. almost as if anyone can just look at it and use it.
@MB-dq9xp
@MB-dq9xp 2 күн бұрын
thank you, I needed
@buttermati0ns649
@buttermati0ns649 Күн бұрын
this blew my mind bro
@byronbrooks6366
@byronbrooks6366 Күн бұрын
While I know you are mainly focused on analyzing characters of the Sonic Franchise, but have you considered doing an philosophical analysis on Ai Hoshino from "Oshi no ko"?
@massimodalessandro108
@massimodalessandro108 11 сағат бұрын
Alan Wake reference in my Sonic video?? Instantly based
@Ranni
@Ranni 10 сағат бұрын
Alan Wake is based. I know this is a self-promotion, but if you enjoyed this video you should checkout my Alan Wake video essay haha!
@CMJ321
@CMJ321 2 күн бұрын
Great vid i like how far you go exploring these characters! i was wondering if any of this chaos control in SA2 or 06stuff can relate to sonics character?
@Ranni
@Ranni 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, it's fun and a lot of work to dive deep into these characters. And relating chaos control to Sonic's character, is the same with Shadow and other characters who use chaos control, it's all about them exerting their will to transform the environment.
@tadeolaguarda6965
@tadeolaguarda6965 2 күн бұрын
Well, Sonic is one of the characters whit the strongest wills and sense of self in the Sonic Universe, we have seen this many times, so if caos control is enacting your will upon the world trough chaos energy, it just make sense he would be able to do things like using chaos control even whit the small amount of energy on a fake chaos emerald. It could also be interpret that his apreciation for freedom may be the reason he dosn't usually use caos control himself unless absolutly necesary, he may not like the idea of imposing his Will over reality itself while Shadow would have no problem whit doing so as long as it help whit his objective
@WindiiGitlord
@WindiiGitlord 2 күн бұрын
let's goooo
@SurAuvers
@SurAuvers 3 сағат бұрын
I had this idea myself. I think you're only off by looking at Greek Mythos and not eastern spiritualism! They also have a concept of Chaos being a basis of all beings. I think you see this in a lot of JRPGs like Kingdom Hearts. Look at the Sonic CD "To live a life of power, you must have faith that what you believe is right, even if others tell you you're wrong. The first thing you must do to live a life of power is to find courage. You must be ready to reach beyond the boundaries of Time itself. And to do that, all you need is the will to take that first step...." Sonic & Knuckles "SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS. THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH CLOUDS. THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND RESTS. DON'T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON'T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU." Sonic & Sonic 2 "Don't just sit there and waste your precious time. When you want to do something, do it right away. Do it when you can. It's the only way to live a life without regrets." The lyrics of Live & Learn apply to this too. The songs about finding your way through dread. These ideas of self determination and creating your own reality are pretty core to the series, I think! Sonic Shuffle spoilers but it also has a story about duality. Negativity is all part of having dreams and achieving them. You've got this in NiGHTS into Dreams as well.
@bi0_n1c
@bi0_n1c Күн бұрын
2:48 That’s not chaos control, any character in sonic battle can block and heal themselves with those same effects.
@vladc137
@vladc137 2 күн бұрын
Loved the vid but i feel like bringing up archie detracts from it rather than adding to it.
@Base_Bass_Forte
@Base_Bass_Forte 18 сағат бұрын
Who else beat STH 69 times.? (I hvae cideo proov. Also got glirxhws and a vame breaking glirxh coming up) nice work. :3
@nightlydata2181
@nightlydata2181 2 күн бұрын
I want to make this other separate comment cus whole I really like this vid I wanna say usin the Comics & Sonic Battle doesn't work cus those aren't canon to the games at all. To be specific in Battle's case it's officially stated to be "semi-canon" meanin only certain elements R canon & I assume that only means the emerl backstory cus the "current day" stuff in that game has a TON of inconsistencies from Shadow's personality & the things he talks bout, to the geography & where characters like Amy, Cream, & knuckles live. Chaos is there for some reason even tho he should be dead. So many things that don't line up wit the Sonic Team games except for the emerl backstory so ye. If u want to speak on game shadow by ST don't use those
@valtaoi9334
@valtaoi9334 2 күн бұрын
Does sonic wiki is a reliable source?
@spidersonic-b5q
@spidersonic-b5q Күн бұрын
Bro made a whole video about teleportation acting like it's a philosophy. Ok what's next the sign posts in sonic cd eggman's badniks the chaos emeralds the paradox prism the warp topez green hill zone.🤨
@WindiiGitlord
@WindiiGitlord 2 күн бұрын
let's goooo
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