The Philosophy of Where to Invade Next (Italy)

The Philosophy of Where to Invade Next (Italy)
Movie: Where to Invade Next
Filmmaker Michael Moore visits various countries to examine how Europeans view work, education, health care, sex, equality, and other issues. From cafeteria food to sex ed, Moore looks at the benefits of schooling in France, Finland and Slovenia. In Italy, he marvels at how workers enjoy reasonable hours and generous vacation time. In Portugal, Moore notes the effects of the decriminalization of drugs. Through his travels, we discover just how different America is from the rest of the world.

[@TheGiua1973]

In Europe, people work to live. In North America we work to survive. There is a difference. American capitalism is a huge con job.

[@terrancethomas9792]

TheGuia, where are you getting your information from? It’s got to be from the SAME source as mine. You must be a genius. Corporations have bought and paid for senators, congressmen and presidents to do what they want. They own them. Deregulation creates job is BS. Until there is a big Demand or something else that’s going to create a ton of profits, the corporations aren’t going to do anything.

[@JustADude1900ish]

Agreed

[@bwalla50]

@@terrancethomas9792 The problem in the USA is the gullibility of the voters and that is why so many idiots get elected to Congress.

[@Hayanomie]

Actually capitalism is sh*t everywhere. These states just had very strong unions and worker movements that ensured labour is not exploited. Not to mention they profit from years and years of exploiting the global south and continue to profit from the systemic inequality that exists because of it. France is baaaad in this regard.

[@matildeoliz4823]

My grandma said to never leave to North America because you don’t work to live but you live just to work

[@terrancethomas9792]

5:08 What’s the point of being richer? That’s a cuss word in American

[@mE-zx7pt]

They're still rich though--although are asking, what's the point of being richer if you can't step on those beneath you?

[@bwalla50]

Bullshit. We just had a president who inherited his money and most of his supporters think he came from rags to riches. America is a country fed bullshit by right-wing media and they can't get enough of that bullshit.

[@terrancethomas9792]

@@bwalla50 , Will, I see the Antifa in you. I’m jealous.

[@terrancethomas9792]

@@mE-zx7pt , at least they understand how that those lower than them should get benefits and good life too. In America, corporations have paid off the Republicans so much, they have think tanks writing laws for them to pass. They’ve went to war to crush the unions, eliminate safety nets, clear air and clean water laws saw they can dump or pollute the air to help their bottom line. Remember “Let corporations regulate themselves.” Let the fox regulate himself in the hen house.

[@CharlesRaines4946]

What's the point to have more than a 100 million $ in the bank?

[@draxiss1577]

It's almost like the working class in countries with weak labour protections are constantly being gaslit and lied to about how much their labour is worth! *Almost.*

[@mickmackem1479]

Remember watching this when it came out Norway prisons was the best

[@HER-kk5xu]

Omg I had only 6 weeks of maternity leave and I had to go back or I would lose my job. I didn’t make a year yet on my job.. I live in Louisiana

[@ahmedmessaoudi578]

I have the same in France🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Hayanomie]

Off the blood and backs of African and west Asian colonialism.

[@Geekzilla84]

Been at my job for almost 20yrs, and I get 4 weeks off.

[@CharlesRaines4946]

Can you afford to get sick?

[@Geekzilla84]

@@CharlesRaines4946 Yes, I have sick days as well as vacation.

[@davidhutchinson5233]

Gotta love Mike. We have 15 days more....Wha? lol

[@ROHIT-up6jn]

THATS MY WOMAN. If man has woman like her... ...it's better off to keep quiet... N let things happen. THINGS WORK JUST LIKE THAT.

[@divadjm]

Now do a story on the nuclear family and it’s effect on Italian society versus the same in America.

[@arturosanzmorale107]

What do you mean?

[@mirjamheijn5214]

I did the numbers on what americans make in their field of work and what italians make in the same textile job. Even when accounting for cheaper living expenses in Italy and the paid vacation, the americans actually make more money if they take the same amount of time off as the Italians (though how practically possible it is to take that much time off I don't know). But in regards to finances, even though the vacations are unpaid for americans and paid for italians, the americans will still have more money to spend because they earn so much more for the same job.

[@ThePhilosophyOfX]

I think it is harder to get these types of jobs in the US, because of the free trade agreements that have shipped so many of these jobs overseas. Also the unions are very weak in the US. Workers are treated rather poorly in the US, the coronavirus pandemic pretty much put that in plain view. What we now know as essential workers are paid poorly, yet are very much essential for the functioning of society.

[@robertogiorgetti6308]

I think you have not understood the Italian concept, the point is not "to make more money" is to "live well, enjoy the family, not get sick from work and in case be treated for free" Can an American take 5 weeks of paid vacation? Can an American stay home for 5 months for pregnancy and get paid? Can an American stay 9 months with their baby (after the previous 5 months) at home and be paid? These are benefits that an American has no idea he can have, not even in dreams

[@bwalla50]

@@robertogiorgetti6308 Not understanding reality is becoming a huge problem in America.

[@paulbaker3144]

People keep going in America by hoping they will strike gold eventually. I’ve asked them and they say they would rather not have a union so they will have more money to gamble in the lottery or be a entrepreneur.

[@Frankiefirenze]

Lol wonderful.. Americans make more.. But can't use it on vacations and die sooner.. Wonderful

[@andreapellegrini6742]

well, I'm Italian and this video only talks about the broad issue regarding welfare in our country. It's true that the state offers many services, but on most occasions getting a CT scan takes months of waiting, the courts are swamped with cases, the school is suffering a general collapse and the defense is in a worrying state. Yes, in general everything said is absolutely true, but small companies are closing at worrying rates precisely due to very high taxes and state waste. My girlfriend has a small nursery, with the maximum possible capacity of children and with state taxes it always reaches zero. If a car tire got a flat it would be a problem. Thirteenth month salaries are becoming a problem for small and medium-sized companies which, very often, force new hires to register for VAT, and greed has absolutely nothing to do with it; anyone who says otherwise is ignorant about it, very often it's about survival. As far as school and healthcare are concerned, if you want the best you still have to pay, especially for healthcare which is gradually disappearing. It is no longer a sustainable cost. So yes, the idea of ​​Italy has worked for years but it is reaching a turning point.

[@blomegoog]

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[@RickyJr46]

Working at a nuclear powerplant in California, my union made campaign contributions to liberal politicians who were opposed to nuclear energy. We were literally paying union dues to buy our own demise, and the fat union bosses didn't care. Pretty cool, eh?

[@minarellip611]

But in Italy the state taxes take your 60%

[@ryanisbelle6107]

And Americans pay nothing? No, we just get nothing and pay 35%.

[@GuitarListen]

Free university and mostly covered healthcare. I believe its okay.

[@Frawt]

@@GuitarListen lmao ikr Oh no! Does Italy even HAVE a population with that taxation?! How do they exist? How do they live? Oh wait, at least they don't go fuckin' bankrupt if they have an accident.

[@CharlesRaines4946]

​@@FrawtI feel sorry for the americans, because they live in a place there an ambulance ride to the hospital cost 3000 $, giving birth in the hospital will cost you 10,000-30,000 and college tutition is 81,000 $ in general. And they have no idea that isn't normal in the rest of the world.

[@gustaafleenders3088]

All paid by the Dutch TaxPayer!

[@userananke]

ahhahahaha so funny, so stupid

[@chriscurtain1816]

He's broadly correct.

[@Ashelirria]

@@chriscurtain1816 He's not. Especially when Italy before the Recovery Fund, was a net contributor.

[@gustaafleenders3088]

@@Ashelirria The Netherlands is by far the bigest net contributor

[@Ashelirria]

@@gustaafleenders3088 Even if it were, it still wasn't paid by "Dutch taxes" because Italy in virtue of being a net contributor, was also putting in their money. Which means that whatever you said is utter bullshit.

[@pixelzpusher]

Sounds great, but I guess that's why the country is going broke. Didn't hear that in the video.

[@leftright6301]

This video only shows you the upside from a handful of people. Mike of course doesn't tell you the country is going broke with all these handouts. Get real Mike.

[@anakon]

Lmao which country is going broke mate?

[@chriscurtain1816]

So they pay money they don't have, for work that hasn't been done. No wonder their economy is screwed.

[@Lorscia]

Italy's economy isn't broken because of the thirteenth salary. The system existed as far as the 1930s in Italy and is a system used by other's countries as well, such as Germany, Finland, Austria and Belgium and they do not seem to be in financial troubles.

[@NEWz206]

They also don't go homeless overnight because they can't pay the medical bill for a heart surgery as it happens in the U.S

[@Ashelirria]

Except Italy is still a world economy. Sure, there are problems, as there are problems everywhere, but I can assure you these little things aren't the main issue. Only those affected by the disease of protestantism, will put work above their own lives.

[@terrancethomas9792]

Trade with them any day of the year. It’s called Quality of Life.

[@toniocartonio572]

@@Lorscia Yes, but remember that the political system in Italy is pretty corrupt (maybe that's a reason why taxes are so high). That's the reason Italy is considered a poor country compared to other ones such as Switzerland or Belgium...

[@wesjimez2941]

I got 30 days off after 5 years

[@wesjimez2941]

Don't forget 45% taxes, 20% VAT, $8 for a gallon of gas, double the price of everything and shrink the size of everything by half. That's how you pay for this. Look at the debt to GDP of Italy. The country is bankrupt

[@VisionCS2]

Every country on earth is bankrupt mate. You can thank the central banks for that one. But at the end of the day, Italians are MUCH more happy. Less mental health issues. Less crime. Higher life expectancy. Higher graduation rates. It's not about lower taxes, its about a higher quality of life. Taxes should be TRACKED and reported - that's the BIG difference. No one knows where US tax $s go. In Italy, you get an itemized list of exactly what was spent where. Higher tax % is a lazy argument