The Plunge Review

[@Ever_Think]

If I could super like this review I would. You answered all my questions of buying this product versus making my own or using ice bags. On top of the great review and discount, you provide the public to come try it out at your house. You're truly a thoughtful and caring individual.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome. I appreciate your comments!

[@yurivarzari4394]

Great review John. I do have a a question: I use a contrast combination of sauna and chest freezer almost daily. My biggest issue, I have to change chest freezer water almost weekly as it gets dirty very quick from sauna sweat. How Cold Plunge is handling keeping water clean when using sauna/plunge combo?

[@pt2693]

Thanks John , my Plunge is loud and gets louder as the filter gets dirtier.. they say change filter once a month but mine is once a week. If I don't change the jets stop circulating the water in cohesive manner and it starts gurgling loudly. Any thoughts? Maybe different filter? How often do you change yours and which do you use? And do your jets go off line like mine when the filter is full? Thanks!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome, PT. Anything that impedes water flow will make any system louder and less efficient. I do change the filter weekly, but we have a lot of people using it. I have been using the 5 micron replacement filters. You might try a 20 micron filter and see if that works better. Also, do you shower and wash with soap right before getting in? Wipe off your feet? These two things can make a huge difference.

[@johnmcneeley]

After 10 days of buying ice for my 150 gallon Rubbermaid stock tank, I’m thinking this might be a much better way to go. I would do it twice a day if it was as convenient as this. I am new to cold therapy, but I gotta say, I love the way it makes me feel.

[@johnrichter-chestfreezerco268]

Hey John - you lasted 6 days longer than I did buying ice for my bathtub before I knew I had to do something different. Glad to hear you are feeling great with cold therapy! What kind of specific benefits have you noticed already?

[@johnmcneeley]

@@johnrichter-chestfreezerco268 When I attempted a thru hike of the Arizona Trail last March I had a rude awakening as to my weight, and conditioning. Coming from sea level here on Maui that first climb to 9100 ft was brutal. My hiking pace was a fraction of what I thought I would do. I was done after the first 50 miles. When I got home I became much more focused on my health and fitness. So far I've dropped 45 lbs. With my change in diet, weight loss, adding supplements, exercise, sauna, Wim Hof breathing, and ice baths it's a little hard to tell exactly which benefits I get from which thing. I'm 66 years old and aimed to boost my immunity, and eliminate any co-morbidities.Trying hard to minimize effect of Covid if I get it. While I'm confidant the ice is boosting my immunity, i can't really measure it. One thing is certain. When I'm in the cold water I am definitely in the moment. My mind is clear. And when I get out or the water I feel so alive and healthy. It's like I can see the brightness of the world with every inch of my body. Who knew? I wish I would have discovered ice and sauna decades ago.

[@leelunk8235]

JOHN+ CHEST FREEZER NO ICE

[@charlesdonadio4722]

Hi John, would you reccoend the Standard or XL size? This will most likley be located in our basement so trying to avoid any over splash getting in and out.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

The XL will definitely help keep more water in the tub. And I've found that being mindful about getting in and out makes a big difference. Being deliberate can keep more (or all) water in the tub vs. just plopping down. If it will be in your basement, however, there is always a potential risk of some water getting in the area. Do you have a drain or sump pump? How do you plan to fill and drain the tub? .

[@charlesdonadio4722]

@@JohnRichterAustin the problem with putting it outside is that the temps can get down into the teens and sigle digits during the winter months. It would be place near the walkout slider so easy to empty and fill with hose. On the XL size just wondering if I would regret not having the extra room inside, can keep water level lower and can stretch out.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@charlesdonadio4722 Life is short. No regrets! Get the XL :)

[@mikegillespiemusic]

V thorough. Thank you

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome!

[@cmart7773]

Can you put Epsom salt and/or magnesium in this unit? Will it damage or degrade any of the parts or filter?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Yes, you can use Epsom salts with the internal equipment. However, the question is why? Because cold water causes the skin pores to close, it is unlikely that there is any beneficial absorption (f at all) of magnesium when in cold water. There are additional issues. See this post for more info: chestfreezercoldplunge.com/epsom-salt/

[@JoeLewis14]

I ordered your book. As a big DIYer, I am excited for this project.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Thanks for ordering my book!

[@chuckvoelker3025]

May I ask how tall you are? I’m excited about trying one out. Where in California are they?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

I'm 5'10" and weigh 180. They are based in Sacramento.

[@pw7299]

Hey John, thanks for review. I actually just bought your book but am thinking now of saving for this tub. LOVE the renu but 10G is outa budget.. Couple questions. Im near Boston and plan on having on deck. Is it possible to cover chiller with a tarp or some thing to keep snow off? I could move it to covered porch in winter.. I guess the best question is, youve had for a year are you still happy with it? Any regrets?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

I've had this model for two years now - hosted at friend's houses for community cold plunges- and zero regrets. For winter, yes it's best to cover the chiller AND get the got and cold model to prevent the water from freezing. Otherwise with the cold only model, it would need to be taken inside to prevent damage.

[@jayl8810]

Thanks for the video. This helped me make my decision to order mine. I plan on leaving mine outside, but would you say a tent is necessary? For example, on a rainy day if the chiller is exposed to rain would that be a problem? Thanks.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Jay, you're welcome. Glad to hear I could help, and I hope my discount code helped a bit too. :) While The Plunge chiller has been modified to be weatherproof, the more you can do to protect the entire system from the elements (rain, sun, etc), the more efficiently it will work and the longer it will last.

[@ferdinandfernando5618]

HI, John. Great review. I live close to the ocean. Would it be best to install the tub indoor or outdoor? I am afraid the salt from the ocean will damage it faster.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Thank you! Anything you can do to protect any equipment from the elements will extend its working life. If you have space indoors, I would put it there. If the area is climate controlled it will be fine. If it is not climate controlled, depending on the temperature and humidity, you may get some condensation on the equipment.

[@Kyle4America]

Great video, thank you for the information. I am located in the Dallas area. I would love to come check out your Cold Plunge before I take the $5k plunge. Thanks in advance for your response.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome to try it out! Full out the contact form on my website and we can figure out a day and time. A 2 or 3-day notice is helpful.

[@nadinebeaumont7284]

I don't see any links here (Utube) and not sure of the product name. Also the price would be nice

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Nadine - the links are in the comments below the video. Some apps make them hard to see or find. Here is link: plunge.pxf.io/MXjMRJ You can use my code for a discount: Richter There are several different models. For updated prices, it's best to visit their website. The product is called The Plunge... which is in the title of the video :)

[@nadinebeaumont7284]

@@JohnRichterAustin Thank you! Just what I've been looking for!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@nadinebeaumont7284 - You're welcome! Let me know if you have any questions about their other offerings. I'm happy to reply here or you can email or call me. My contact info is on my website here: chestfreezercoldplunge.com/contact/

[@richardpeden2721]

FedEx showed up with two guys. They carried it to the backyard, unpacked it and hauled off the cardboard. The set up was easy from there. I got the Plunge Pro XL. I use it twice a day - 39 degrees @ 10 min a session.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

I'm so glad to hear your delivery and setup went and that you're enjoying your Plunge!

[@raymondpabon7054]

Nice review what is the hp rating on the pro chiller

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Thanks! The pro chiller is 1 hp. The basic chiller is 1/4 hp. If you plan to have your Plunge outdoors where it is hot or humid part of the year, the 1HP model is the way to go!

[@Thehappybirder]

This is an absolutely terrible product and their customer support is terrible. It is very cheaply made. There is still condensation when used indoors. How often should you do a cold plunge? “The latest research shows that 11 minutes a week of being fully submerged is ideal. This can be broken up in a number of ways. Personally, I try to do my ice baths every other day or two to three times per week,” The goal of cold plunging is hermetic stress, which is like a good workout where you bounce back stronger than you were before. After 5 minutes, you can incur a too much stress that can enter the realm of doing more harm than good.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with Plunge. As with all companies in this space who are experiencing rapid growth, there are going to be issues. My experience with them since May 2021 is that they will ultimately resolve an issues if you give them a chance. I've seen too many reports from people who spent money on cold plunges from other companies, had issues, and the company completely stopped replying. One of the things that impresses me about Plunge is that they continue to evolve their product and how they run their company. I stand by my review. Re: timing... bio individuality is significant. I agree that being in very cold water too long can do more harm than good. Getting out too soon can result in no benefits. No single protocol will work for every person. Tuning into what your body needs (or not) each day is an art that must be learned.

[@freebollen]

Are there places where I can try it before we decide to buy? That info will be helpful, thanks. Or anyone here in the comments in CA have one I can try?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

I'm in Austin, Texas, however, I know there are many in California, where the company is based. Reach out to Michael - their phone number and email address is at the bottom of their website- and find out if any gyms or spas that are close to you have purchased one. If you buy a day pass, it typically includes access to The Plunge. Let Michael know I sent you. :)

[@Hobbes1964]

what area?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@Hobbes1964 - Austin Texas

[@Hobbes1964]

@@JohnRichterAustin meaning to ask freebollen where in california? can check out the plunge i use.

[@teamturner3933]

@@Hobbes1964 sacramento

[@RussianSlowed]

when people look for reviews they are looking to see you test out the product as well but other than that good points

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Did you watch the entire video? I used The Plunge for more than two months along with dozens of people in the community. What kind of testing are you looking for?

[@saimin21]

I just got mine and noticed the directions say to keep it running 24/7. Do you think this is safe to have the ozone on 24/7, even when plunging?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Saimin21 - The ozone generators are used in all of The Plunge systems are designed for use in hot tubs and spas, which are meant to run when people are using them. These units produce such a small amount of ozone, that it typically breaks down in the plumbing lines before it is released into the tub through the two return valves, so it should be perfectly safe to be in the water while the ozone generator (and the rest of the system) is running. That said, if you notice a very strong ozone smell while you're in the water, something may be off and it would be best to call their customer support team.

[@JohnJones-yk5qk]

Fantastic video, covered everything i was wondering…great job mate, think I’m going to take the plunge…ba dum tiss

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Thank you!

[@hitfoods1726]

You know what would be cool?…If a company like this made KITS so you can add everything to your own DIY Tub and lower the cost some.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

That's a great idea! :)

[@VelesZzz]

Hi! How long do you have to wait until the minimum water temperature is reached ? (39F)

[@JohnRichterAustin]

How long it takes to chill the water is affected by your starting water temperature, ambient temperature, direct sun exposure, etc. Generally plan for the Standard plunge to cool 2.5° per hour and the Pro 8-10°per hour

[@drewalexander7970]

Hi John, What is the draining process for the Plunge like? Let's say you store the plunge inside and need to move to a new location...where/how would you drain the water? Thanks

[@JohnRichterAustin]

There is a built in drain. All you need to do is turn one valve and the water will drain out. It is a standard PVC connection so you if you want, you could get a garden hose adapter to send the water somewhere else. After you disconnect the chiller, you will need to tilt the chiller to drain the water inside. The tub will also need to be tilted to drain the bit of remaining water that is in the plumbing.

[@ausxau]

I'm about to buy one and wanted to know how much energy it uses in the summer?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

It will depend on several variables- your ambient temp, which system you buy, target water temperature, amount of direct sun exposure, and usage. Plan for $30 - $80 month. Last summer the standard plunge was about $30 per month I'm N California, and the XL $60-75 per month in Central Texas under a shade canopy.

[@johnmcneeley]

I can't really tell but it looks like your chiller is about 2 or 3 inches from the wall. Are you happy with that placement? No need for more distance from the wall?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

The chiller is fine a few inches from the wall. However, in the future, I would add another 10 - 12 inches between the system and the wall to make it easier to remove and replace the filter.

[@7DoubleO]

JOHN WHAT SIZE IS THE REVIEW ? PLUNGE OR PLUNGE XL ? I AM 6.2ft I THANK I SHUD GET THE XL p.s. I HAVE DOING PLUNGE FOR 45DAY NOW IN A 150g RUBBER MADE TANK WITH 60-80# ICE I JEST GOT A PENGUIN CHILLER WORKS GOOD I THINK I WILL BE GETING THE PLUNGE ONE THANKS 007

[@JohnRichterAustin]

This review is for the Plunge, and was dine before the XL was released. Search the videos on my channel for a review on the Plunge XL. If you decide to buy one, you can use this discount code: Richter

[@BGIANAKy]

I have mine instead and it starts to smell after a few days. Chemical imbalance?

[@scottbacci8933]

I am moving to Houston and will be looking to make one of these. What price range are we looking at?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

For the most up to date pricing, see their website: plunge.pxf.io/MXjMRJ Use this code for a discount: Richter

[@CodyQuest]

How tall are you and do you think someone 6 foot can have their legs submerged and also up to neck/back of the head? Thanks

[@johnrichter-chestfreezerco268]

Great question! I'm 5'10 and weigh 180 lbs. Michael Garrett, the inventor is over 6' tall - I think 6'3 " if I remember correctly, and he has no issues getting in. I've had a few dozen people using my Plunge since May - several of them much taller than me, and getting the back of their head in with their legs submerged has been fine. Some bend their knees a bit to get fully under, and I think one really tall person may have had their knee caps sticking out of the water. However, the water level may have been a bit low.

[@mikechen281]

Hey John thanks for the informative review. I know you’re an affiliate but Have you ever tried the edge theory labs tub? If so, how do you compare the two and why would you recommend buying this one over the other or vice versa? Really considering making the purchase. Thank you!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Mike - You're welcome. Yes, I am trying out an Edge Theory Labs cold plunge right now and will have a review posted in a couple of weeks after I've had a chance to use it. I am also an affiliate for Edge Theory, and you can use the discount code: FREEZER Right off, besides the aesthetic differences, I would say these two cold plunges have different purposes: The Plunge is meant for a permanent setup, the Edge Theory is meant to be portable.

[@Matt-rt9ws]

This is the cold plunge pro? Does the hot and cold plunge cool at the same rate as the pro? And How long does the standard plunge take to cool?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Matt - I reviewed the Plunge Pro with the 1 HP chiller. The Hot and Cold model is available in the standard (1/4) version and the Pro (1HP) version, and both cool at the same rate as the cold only models. With an ambient temperature of 72 degrees, the Standard Plunge will cool at about 2.5 degrees per hour, and the Pro: 8-10 degrees per hour.

[@gugy68]

Damn, would love the plunge but too much $$$. Chest freezer FTW.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

I encourage all forms of cold water immersion, and I'm still an advocate for DIY cold plunges. If you don't have the budget, or can't qualify for the monthly payment plans, a DIY chest freezer cold plunge is a great option. I still use mine regularly!

[@MerkDotCom]

Thank you for the great review! How loud is the plunge? I plan to have it outside near a window, would I be able to hear it in my house? Also, can the chiller be moved to the side or does it have to be place behind the plunge? Thank you!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome. The chiller is about 76 dB at 3 feet away. Whether you can hear it inside or not depends on the quality of your walls, windows, and insulation. The commercial model has the option to move the chiller to the side. You could use PVC fittings and additional flex PVC to extend the existing lines so you could move the chiller, but it could impact how well the system circulates and chills the water.

[@MerkDotCom]

@@JohnRichterAustin Thank you!

[@jpw2growopfarms106]

can the chiller be housed further away from the tub? I have a way to house the chiller out of sight if the hoses can be extended.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You could, but it would not be recommended for two key reasons: 1. If you extend the plumbing lines, you are likely to get heat in to the system which will take more energy to keep the water cold. 2. The chiller and pump are all set up to work within a specific flow rate and pressure. If you add/extend the plumbing, these variables will change and possibly prevent the system from working optimally. That said, if you want to place the chiller elsewhere, give them a call and find out if they have recommendations for equipment that would work.

[@bulls3598]

Awesome! thanks for the review.

[@johnrichter-chestfreezerco268]

You're welcome!

[@dualityhurts4785]

Hey John, I made the mistake of purchasing a chest freezer with an aluminum type of interior instead of a clean white finish. What do you recommend to line the interior?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

This is a good question, however off-topic for this video. Check the info for the video for a libk to my free Facebook group. Or you can get a copy of my book, available on my website, which is available on my website, also linked in the info

[@bennyhill6161]

You're really Not getting the 100% benefits of a true ice bath with the Plunge, being that the Plunge does Not actually produce ice chunks, there are 2 other companies plunge systems which will produce actual ice in the tub.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

There are many different approaches to cold water immersion. The physiological response is based on the water temperature, how long you stay in, and a number of other variables. Benefits can start at temperatures in the 50F / 10C range if you stay in long enough. At temperatures below 40F / 4.4C the benefits happen sooner. Circulating water (like in The Plunge or swimming in a natural body of moving water) will drop your core temperature faster than being in still water. As long as you have the water temperature and duration that your body needs, having or not having ice is irrelevant to the benefits/results. People using any cold plunge system will get the benefits, and I encourage people to buy whatever system they like the best and can afford. In a world that is already so divisive, I prefer the cold water immersion community to come together for what we share. I support and encourage those who can spend $20 for ice in their bath tub, as well as those who have $50,000 for their pool company to build an in-ground cold plunge, and every option in between.

[@bayside6207]

@@JohnRichterAustin Benny Hill is correct, also another added health benefit that Benny Hill did not mention is that"Morozko"which is one of the brands he must be speaking of that produces ice chunks- in fact I think it's the only brand that does produce actual ice in the tub, also produces a healthy benefit of"grounding"because of the galvanized metal or the industrial stainless steel option which the plunge in this video cannot do due to the material it is constructed out of. Oh and to your point of circulating water- Morozko also circulates the water so that there is constant movement.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@bayside6207 If you make a claim that ice is necessary for benefits from cold water immersion, please provide a link to the published research.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@bayside6207 I've been practicing cold water immersion since 2014 and actively involved in the global cold water community since 2018. People report benefits from all kinds of different cold plunges. The "Best" cold plunge is the one that someone will use on a regular basis. I know there are benefits to grounding. And for the relatively brief amount of time people are in a cold plunge, there is zero data that it makes any significant difference. People are still benefiting from the cold water.

[@marthasrabbs]

Hi John, I was considering getting another cold plunge. Is the discount code still available for a $150 discount? If it is, could you reply with the code? I believe it was “richter”?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Paul. Yes! That is correct, the discount code it: Richter What are you thinking about using the second plunge for?

[@marthasrabbs]

@@JohnRichterAustin I sold the first one because I’m moving and wanted to get the new XL instead so I can have the extra room while plunging. Was very easy to sell and within 2 days I had 7 offers on Facebook market place.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@marthasrabbs - wow! Congratulations! I'm short enough (5/ 10") to fit in the standard Plunge tub, but I really love the additional space in the XL. I'll have a review up in a few weeks! :)

[@seanpendleton6354]

I noticed your chiller is close to the wall! Plunge recommends 12 inches of clearance ! Any issues ?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

The chiller is supposed to be close to the Plunge. The 12" of clearance is recommended for the side of the chiller away from the tub.

[@douglassmith3789]

great review, John. very informative! any updates related to the condensation on the inside of the light or the seal issue where the drain is? thanks!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Douglas - thanks for your comments. The condensation on the light seems to be a fairly normal issue with bulbs that are exposed to large temperature differences. It is not an issue. If there is water pooling inside, that would indicate a leak in the gasket. As for the bit of edging around the drain - it turns out that the issue was being caused by the valve on the filter being in the wrong location. When the valve was put into the correct position the water circulation improved quite a bit and there has been zero sediment building up around the drain. I will be posted an update video soon.

[@KBradAdams]

Does the price include a cover?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Yes, all of the models come with a cover that is similar to a standard hot tub cover. It is about 3" thick, folds, in the middle, and is held in place on the tub with four buckles.

[@KBradAdams]

@@JohnRichterAustin Thanks!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@KBradAdams - You're welcome! I'm happy to answer any other questions for you. If you decide to get one of the Plunges, please use the discount code: JRichter

[@rohanpatel3893]

honestly just turn a chest freezer into a cold plunge it will be cheaper. there's tons of videos how to do it correctly. will save 3k+ depending how facy you want to make it look. these cold plunge are ridiculously over priced for no reason

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You must not have watched the video. I literally wrote the book on DIY chest freezer cold plunges, and actively support the global DIY community through my Facebook group and other resources. I advocate for all forms of cold plunging, and many people- for various reasons- have no interest in DIY. It's great to have plug and play options supported by an established company that takes care of their customers.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Also, there are not tons of videos on how to correctly convert a chest freezer into a cold plunge. Most of them do not follow best practices and result in leaking, rusting, or dead chest freezers within a year or two. Search my channel for the video about why following KZbin advice will kill your chest freezer.

[@JoeJoe6678]

Ok where did you get the the white privacy frames . Thanks

[@JohnRichterAustin]

We ordered it from Amazon. It's from ABC Canopy. I had one that I use for camping and it worked a *lot* better than a number of other canopies I have tried in the past. The white one in the video is a 10x10. I have an Amazon affiliate link you can use here: amzn.to/3IIrTHM

[@jeffmee9326]

What if I have a hardwood floor and want to use it indoors. I have a chest freezer now that I’ve been using since 2019. The condensation worries me

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Great question! If your indoor ambient temperature stays in the 70's, condensation is not as likely to be an issue. Also - they have significantly upgraded the insulation on the tubs since last year. That said, it is possible that there still might be some condensation on the plumbing / pipes connecting the equipment on the back. It would be a good idea to put down a waterproof mat to prevent any condensation from dripping on the floor. Having The Plunge out of direct sunlight would also help significantly. Condensation is possible with pretty much any professionally made (or DIY) cold plunge with a chiller and external plumbing. However, that also depends on where you live. In California, for example, condensation does not seem to be a problem because of the low humidity and even on hot days when it gets into the 90's it is cold enough at night to reduce or eliminate that problem. You might give the team at The Plunge a call to chat with them about your concerns and find out if they have anything more to add that might be helpful.

[@jeffmee9326]

@@JohnRichterAustin Awesome. Thanks for the reply, John.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@jeffmee9326 - You're welcome. If you chat with the folks at The Plunge, please let me know what they say. :)

[@waltmueller8850]

John, thanks for the review! To bad I didn't see it till now, would have used the discount. I Absolutely love, love, love my plunge tub. Mine is indoors. They did a great job with the design of this tub, it's super convenient & maintenance is super easy! Way, way more convenient then carrying ice. Approaching 2 months of use now. 1 to 2 times daily for 5 minutes. Between 5/6 days a week. Temperature at 44 degrees, currently. I would like to see more on healthy training routines. Where do we go from hear type stuff. Haven't found much info so far? That is my only, con! That being said, I would highly recommend this tub!! Well built!!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome, Walt. The Plunge does send out regular emails with info about cold plunging. You might give them a call to make sure you are on their email list. Also, if you have not done so already, taking a Wim Hof Method course could be very helpful. Another resource I can give you is a book called "A Practical Guide to Cold Training" by Jesse Coomer. It's the book I *wish* I would have had after I finished the Wim Hof Workshop back in 2013. Here is a link to more info about Jesse's book: chestfreezercoldplunge.com/resources/

[@waltmueller8850]

Many thanks, John! Yes, on Plunge's email list. & they do send some good stuff. The info has not hit topic I'm looking for yet. Excited to check out Jesse's book, may be what I'm looking for! Learned breathing techniques many years ago. Have looked into Wim's technique & hopefully applying it correctly? Would love to take a Wim Hof course! Thanks for fast reply & for the info, John! Really appreciate it!! Very helpful!!

[@waltmueller8850]

Hello John! Got Jesse's book last night. It's exactly what I was looking for!! Thanks again! It would b great if Jesse's book came with every plunge. It's an important read for this activity for sure! Like you said, wish I had this info before I started!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@waltmueller8850 - thanks for the feedback! Jesse is a great guy and really knows his stuff! :)

[@K1LO13]

Hi, how dry is it to drain indoors? Thanks

[@kendrabriggs5999]

Hi John, Thank you for the video. We live in Florida, so humidity and hot temperatures will be present 8 months out of the year. We have two options on placement, one outside on our screened lanai that faces west, or the garage. Both places can get quite hot in the summer months. Do you recommend one location over the other? We have not purchased yet, but will soon and we will be sure to use your link. What kind of discount will we get by using your link? Thank you for the information!!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Kendra, you're very welcome. I think the lanai might be a better choice because of the condensation from the equipment and plumbing. I would be worried about the moisture inside the garage puddling on the floor. It would depend on how well your garage is sloped. I greatly appreciate you using my link an code when you order. The discount available depends completely on what promotion is being run when you order. You'll have to plug it in and se what happens!

[@kendrabriggs5999]

@@JohnRichterAustin We purchased yesterday and the discount was even better than I expected! Anybody considering use the code. 😀

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@kendrabriggs5999 - I'm glad to hear that! Congratulations!

[@Mikehdy]

It's just a bath tub with some connections drilled into it and some spray foam inside

[@JohnRichterAustin]

... and a chiller, pump, filter, ozone generator, valves, customer service and a warranty.

[@kimt3817]

Curious on how the plunge effected your electric bill, they say it is around $1 a day to run the plunge. Do you find this to be accurate?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Kim - great question! I just attached a usage meter this past Saturday and will report back after I have a week's worth of data.

[@kimt3817]

@@JohnRichterAustin thanks, I’m curious on truly if it is about a dollar a day.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@kimt3817 - it will vary significantly based on the ambient temperature and humidity of where you live. They did their testing in California. Where they are does get hot - up into the 90's during the day. However, I think at night it can drop into the 50's, 60's or 70s. In Texas when it is in the 90's during the day, it might only drop into the 80's at night, and we have a much higher relative humidity. I'll have the data on Saturday. If you don't see my post, you're welcome to reply here to remind me!

[@Luke-vg7ut]

@@JohnRichterAustin update on cost?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@Luke-vg7ut - I installed an energy meter on the plug and plugged The Plunge into the energy meter. For that week the an average ambient high was 87 F and the average low was 79. Three of those days the highs were in the 90 - 93 F range and the lowest high temperatue was 81F. The coldest low temp was 77 and the warmest low was 82. After 1 week it used 107.4 KKWh The average Austin residential electricity rate is 12.04 ¢/kWh. The cost to run it for that week was $13.32.

[@firedemond]

Great review! How long does it take for the water to get cool? Is it fast or you need to activate it a few hours before you get in?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

It depends on your ambient temperature, starting water temp, sun exposure, and target water temp. It should chill anywhere from 5 to 8 degrees F per hour.

[@robbieteasdale1965]

I'm so impressed with your commitment and engagement with us. About how many kilowatt hrs a year does the standard plunge use? It seems like it would be fighting the heat with no insulated cover...

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Robbie - I appreciate your comment. The Plunge does come with an insulated cover, which should be in place when nobody is in the water. The amount of power that it will use can vary greatly depending on a lot of variables - ambient temperatures, amount of sun exposure, and number, duration, and frequency of cold plunges. I don't have annual numbers, but on average, it should run about $30 per month for a standard plunge. The Plunge Pro has been running about $50 - $60 per month with triple digit temperatures in Central Texas.

[@1999TransAmWS6]

Great video. It answered many of my questions. I'm 50/50 if I will buy one but I will definitely use your code if I do.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Thanks Jason. What questions do you still have unanswered? I'm happy to help. :)

[@1999TransAmWS6]

@@JohnRichterAustin My idea to sell it to my wife is the going hot portion. She always wanted a hot tub so this seems like it could be the best of both worlds. The main thing would be the time to go from cold to hot. I probably wouldn't cold plunge daily. Ive read for weightlifting you want a certain amount of inflammation so it could counter muscle gains. I'd cold plunge maybe 2-4 times a week. I doubt she'd use it daily either so maybe that part would be okay. What is the tub made out of? Is it fiberglass, plastic, or porcelain? I'd be placing it in the basement so curious on the weight to get it down the stairs. Thanks

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@1999TransAmWS6 The hot / cold plunge is primarily designed for outdoor cold weather applications to have it kick on when it gets too cold to prevent the equipment and water from freezing. That said, you can use it as a hot tub up to 103F. If your water is at 50F it will heat up to 103F in about 12 hours. With an ambient temperature of 72F, the Standard model (1/4 HP) will cool 2.5 degrees per hour and the Pro (1 HP) model will cool about -10 degrees per hour. The tub has an acrylic shell, which is non-porous. That means it is less susceptible to mold and easier to clean than fiberglass. Empty, the tub and attached equipment weighs 165 lbs. The chiller is 41 lbs and is separate (connected by two plumbing fittings that screw into place). When I've moved it, I turn it sideways so that the equipment is on top, and the open side of the tub is facing to one side. Two people can pretty easily carry it. You'll need a bit more than 24" of clearance to fit the standard size model through the door- more than 17" if you opt for the XL model.

[@marthasrabbs]

John, I’ve had my hot/cold plunge since October, mostly cold weather. 10 days ago, I filled it up a few inches to a proper level. The weather got into the 80s the last few days and this morning, after not using for the 10 days, the water was 4-5 inches lower. Does yours get lower in water level faster in warmer weather? Trying to make sure I don’t have a leak.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

A little bit of water can be lost due to evaporation or from people splashing getting in and out. However, after only ten days, 4 - 5 inches lower sounds like a *lot*. I suggest calling their customer service team to help you troubleshoot.

[@marthasrabbs]

@@JohnRichterAustin there’s also an bright orange film line forming at water lever. Odd. I change filters and use their maintenance system regularly.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@marthasrabbs- I've seen something like that in my chest freezer cold plunge- it was the ozone reacting with impurities in some (supposedly) food grade Epsom salts that I added. Are you adding anything else to the tub? Chemicals or objects? Even something simple like a thermometer made of a certain plastic could be reacting to ozone.

[@vinny4548]

how do you fill it up? Also, did you get an answer about the condensation that built up on the circular piece?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Vinny- great questions. I filled it up using a standard garden hose with an RV filter attached to the end. Like this one: amzn.to/3kfrhxD Yes, I talked with the owner about the condensation, and he said it is normal due to the temperature difference. I also looked into a few pool and hot tub forums, which said pretty much the same thing. As long as there is not a pool of water, it is fine.

[@vinny4548]

What are the dimensions of the cold plunge at the base? I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to lay it on top of a rubber drainage mat to prevent mold buildup underneath?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Vinny, I replied twice to your question, but for some reason it is not actually being posted/saved. Third time's a charm? The base is 53" x 21.5". I'm not sure if a drainage mat would help. It does have six feet the elevate the tub off of the ground. I think if you applied some organic natural anti-mold mixture (not sure what), and rinsed it with a hose periodically, that would help. Or, you could install some ventilation fans to dry up the moisture on the ground to prevent mold. What is the average high temperature where you live?

[@K1LO13]

Hi John, thanks for the information. One thought, if someone wanted to make it even colder, would putting ice or frozen water bottles into the plunge aid in decreasing the temp closer to 1 degree and would that harm the system at all. Thank you.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Adding ice will not damage the system.

[@markstewart3551]

How much is shipping I live in Atlanta Georgia

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Mark, shipping is included for all lower 48 states on all of The Plunge models.

[@ehenpin]

John, thanks for the video, do you drain the water after each use? What is recommended?

[@johnrichter-chestfreezerco268]

That's a great question. The system has an ozone generator, UV filter (double sanitation), and sediment filter. With that setup you could keep the same water for 6 - 12 months or possibly indefinitely. The sediment filters do need to be changed / replaced regularly as needed. Once a month is recommended. That all said - there are many variables, and a lot of that depends on your hygiene practice before you get in the water, and how many people are using it. Oils, lotions, and other body care products are all taken care of by the ozone and filter, but you may need to change the filter sooner. Also, if the water is not staying clear and clean, they are now offering an additional product (H2O2 based) that you can add to your water for triple sanitation.

[@daveandersen2484]

Hi John, what size and brand of chiller does the plunge use? B t U or h p etc? have been plunging daily in phoenix in my swimming pool for 5 months. I am running out of cold water soon and need to figure out a plan. I am a commercial air conditioning refrigeration contractor for 40 years. So I don’t like the idea of the chest freezers. I am leaning towards a 150 gallon rubber maid stock tank, that I can drain into my pool, to not waste water. And set a 300 pound ice machine near the stock tank under my big covered patio. I could also pipe in the chiller to the stock tank. And wash and drain the tank weekly, thanks

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Dave, the Plunge is available with either a 1/4 and 1 HP model. A number of people have tried the ice machine setup- they typically turn into more of a pain due to shoveling all of the ice. Piping the chiller to your tank directly would create the most efficient option. Are you in my FB group? I'd be happy to discuss in more detail with you there.

[@daveandersen2484]

@@JohnRichterAustin I’m almost 63 , I’m not into social media. I’m not on f b or anything else. I was thinking about the Rubbermaid 150 gallon insulated stock tank. With the 3/4 hose bib fitting on the bottom. I would drain it down into my pool weekly to not waste water. My pool filter would deal with it. Then I was going to pipe very simply, inlet and outlet from the chiller to the stock tank. Living in phoenix I would need the bigger chiller for our 119 degree days. I would scrub the stock tank weekly or twice monthly with brushes and garden hose. Thanks

[@daveandersen2484]

@@JohnRichterAustin I am pretty sure in phoenix at 119 degrees with 90 degree inlet water I would need the 1 hp not the 1/4 h p ? Does it have 2 fans in the chiller? What brand chiller is it? Thanks

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@daveandersen2484 - I totally understand about not wanting to be on FB. For that kind of heat, I have a specific chiller to recommend for you. I am an official reseller, but I don't have their products set up on my website yet. I can take orders for the same prices they have on their website and send an invoice to you. You still have the same warranty and service directly from the company but buying it through me helps me support the cold plunge community and my family. If you fill out the contact form on my website we can chat via email or I can give you my phone number. www.ChestFreezerColdPlunge.com/contact

[@daveandersen2484]

@@JohnRichterAustin thanks, I sent you my phone number to text tomorrow.

[@nickhammersonrocks]

WE'RE TAKING THE PLUNGE !!!!!!! ROCK ON !!!!!!!!!!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Congratulations! I'd love to hear about your experience after you receive it! :)

[@patrickquillian6835]

How has the cold plunge increased your Monthly electrical bill?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

In Central Texas in August with about 3 hours of direct sun exposure it added about $40 for the month. Depending on your ambient temperature I would plan for the 1HP chiller system to add about $30 - $40 per month.

[@patrickquillian6835]

@@JohnRichterAustin I’m in Oklahoma City, similar temps; very helpful thank you

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@patrickquillian6835 - You're welcome. Let me know if you have any other questions. And if you choose to buy a Plunge, be sure to use my discount code. :)

[@davidparker1738]

Is the standard too small for a 6’3” person?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

It depends on whether or not you're comfortable bending your knees or crossing your legs at the calves. If you prefer to have more room, the XL would definitely be the way to go. I have a full review here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoi5qWqEg8-lmck

[@alexrivera-alwayslearning2396]

Hi, how do you keep your plunge from growing the black mold? Do you use chlorine, hydrogen peroxide or anything else? I find that even with a nee filter, the black mold will start forming after a month or so. I am the only one that uses plunge. Also, it is kept indoors and I keep the cover on it. And of course, the pump is always moving the water. Thanks

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Alex - I have never had problems with black mold. Are you sure it is mold and not sediment? Where is it forming? I use ozone and have many people in our community using it regularly. I clean / replace the filter at least once every 3-4 weeks. I wipe down the surface of the tub each week, including around the light, valves and drain. Sediment from the ozone generator will cause debris to collect there, but it is not mold. Is your ozone generator working? You might consider using the spa products recommended by The Plunge or look into using H2O2.

[@dallashall9958]

Great review thank you for the vid! I’m considering the plunge pro..the pro is supposed to be a few decibels louder. I’m curious how the noise pollution is with your model.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome! I would be more concerned about correctly sizing your chiller than the loudness. Where do you live and how hot does it get? As for the loudness, the model I have is from May 2021 and about 8' from the chiller produced 72 decibels, measured by a calibrated decibel meter. At 15' away it was 56. Some people did not like the sound of the water going through the plumbing. Since then, they have started using larger fittings for the intake and return and a larger micron filter, which makes it considerably more quiet. They have made a number of other improvements over the last year, one of which includes a closed light fitting that eliminates the condensation.

[@dallashall9958]

@@JohnRichterAustin Thanks for the detailed reply. I live in Puerto Rico..warm and humid all year. I would place it outside under a shaded terrace but ambient temps are still pretty warm. The area is off my master bedroom so I'm concerned if it's going off at night to maintain temps, it might disturb us inside.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

​@@dallashall9958 - You're welcome. We had The Plunge chiller about 6 inches from the living room window. When I measured the dB levels 1" from the window on the inside of the house, it was 55 dB - it was a light hum. At 8' from the window we could not hear it at all.

[@dallashall9958]

@@JohnRichterAustin Fantastic! Thanks again!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@dallashall9958 - you're welcome!

[@marthasrabbs]

Hi John. I purchased the Cold Plunge last October using your link. Thank you for that! I have been trying to get in touch with their customer support for the last 3 months, left several emails and voicemails and have had zero responses. Today they sent out an email about excessive bubbling and how to purge the air to their customer base. The video link they sent doesn't work. Instead of chasing them, I thought I'd ask you if you know how to purge the air in the system? Any assistance would be a great help, thanks so much!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome. I'm sorry to hear that you have been unable to reach their customer support. That sounds very unusual. You might reach out to them and make sure they have your correct contact information. I just called them and got them on the phone in less than 1 minute! They are open 7 days a week from 8am - 5pm PST. Here is a link to the video as well as the steps to purge the air from the plumbing line: 1. Unplug the entire system. 2. Detach the “in” hose on the chiller and hang it over the side of the tub so the water flows directly into the tub. 3. Plug the system back in and let the water flow for about 20 seconds to purge the air. 4. Unplug the system, reattach the In hose to the chiller and plug the system back in again. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2TVfWNpqa5jb6s

[@overload119]

Awesome video. More videos need to be made like this.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Hi Amir - I appreciate your comments.

[@marthasrabbs]

Is it loud? I considering this purchase but live in an apartment building. I have a huge deck, that I believe can handle the weight, but not sure if the noise level would be to high for neighbors.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Great question! The standard plunge is about 53 decibels and the Plunge Pro is 61 decibels. You'll hear the sound of a fan when the chiller is running and a constant bubbling - like hot tubs jets but not nearly as loud. The sound diminishes the farther away you are. We have the chiller sitting right next to a window in the living room. We can barely hear it when we are inside right next to the window and can't hear it at all when sitting in the living room. It is a lot less loud than a standard outside AC unit. I would definitely double check the weight ratings on the deck. When filled it weighs about 800 lbs. You might also double check your lease for any prohibitions and with your renters insurance to make sure it would be covered along with any potential issues.

[@marthasrabbs]

@@JohnRichterAustin John, if the cooler/heater fails outside the warranty, can the unit be bought again without buying the entire cold plunge again? 2nd question, is it easy to move from one home to another when we move? Last question, what is your affiliate code and how do we use it for our purchase?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@marthasrabbs - Yes. The entire system was designed to be modular so components can be easily replaced if needed. Yes, it is pretty easy to move. I just moved one today. It took about 30 minutes total (after draining) to get the tub and chiller disconnected, drain a bit of extra water in the pipes, and move it from the backyard and get it into my Nissan Murano. I had a small furniture dolly for moving it through the house, but also found the tub and the chiller fairly easy to carry (individually) with another person when we were going through the yard. I will have a video posted on the move soon.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@marthasrabbs - my affiliate link is: plunge.pxf.io/c/2841314/1072116/13696 Use the code RICHTER on the cart or checkout page where it asks for a coupon. Thank you!

[@marthasrabbs]

@@JohnRichterAustin great! Thanks so much John! 👍

[@hitesh324]

Its too expensive for me

[@JohnRichterAustin]

I understand that not everyone can afford a professionally made cold plunge, which I which is why I have devoted the last four years to helping people in the DIY space. You can join my Facebook group for free. If you don't want to spend hours going through thousands of posts, my book is only $27.95 and can save you hundreds of dollars in the mistakes that will help you avoid making. The links are in the information below the video.

[@joshuabogia1993]

Thanks for the review

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome!

[@hupat77]

Great review video !

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Patrick - thanks! I'd love to hear from you if you decide to order a Plunge!

[@hupat77]

@@JohnRichterAustin next time I’m in Austin I would like to come and try it out !!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@hupat77 - You're welcome to come by for a Plunge. Give me w couple of days heads up and we will make it happen. You can find my contact info on my website at www.ChestFreezerColdPlunge.com

[@candisgreene3]

How loud is the 1hp unit? Is it too loud to use inside?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

"Loud" is a subjective term, and depends upon a number of different variables that can be different to quantify. Everyone is different and will have a different opinion about what level of noise they considered to be a nuisance. I used a decibel meter to measure the loudness of the chiller when it was running. At 1 foot away from the back of the chiller it was 82 dB. Most people will not put their head near the floor at the back of the chiller, so this is just a baseline reference. At 6 feet away at the opposite end of the tub it was 72 dB. On the front of the tub opposite of the chiller I measured 70 dB. For comparison, 60 dB is roughly the noise produced by a normal conversation. 70 dB is a dishwasher running in your kitchen. At 15 feet away it was 56 dB. 50 dB is the level of a typical refrigerator. I've had plenty of conversations with other people standing around The Plunge, and it has never been too loud that we had to raise our voices. Where inside of you thinking about putting it?

[@lwatson1062]

Thanks for the review John! I just received an email that mine is being shipped now (& thank you for the discount code) and I can’t wait to get it. I really appreciate all the work you do on the DYI plunge but also on investigating pre-fab products. This one was exactly what I was looking for, at a price point that fit my budget.

[@johnrichter-chestfreezerco268]

Hi Linda - You're very welcome. I appreciate your acknowledgment. I'd love to hear about your experience with The Plunge!

[@leelunk8235]

LINDA, YOU PAID RETAIL FOR THAT...YOU'RE A BAD GIRL

[@KBradAdams]

Linda you have any updates on how yours is after a year? Thanks

[@lwatson1062]

@@KBradAdams Hi Brad, I am more in love with my plunge a year later! The folks at Cold Plunge are a pleasure to deal with & provide phenomenal customer service.

[@KBradAdams]

@@lwatson1062 Great to hear. You keep your outside or inside?

[@michaelusowski1368]

Thank you for the video John :)

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome!

[@tylervoth2909]

Hey John thanks for the great review. I love the circulating water, but do you feel the jets hitting your body? It seems like that could be distracting when trying to get through a plunge

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Yes, if you put your back right up to the jet you can feel it. I don't sit that way in the tub, so don't notice it. I've had more than 20 different people using it since May and nobody has mentioned that being an issue. That said, you will get colder in circulating water faster than you would in still water. I see that as a plus!

[@tylervoth2909]

@@JohnRichterAustin I agree definitely a plus! Ordered mine three weeks ago I can’t wait

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@tylervoth2909 - congratulations!!

[@hongjames]

Thanks for this video John. I recently ordered mine (Hot/Cold version) to go with my existing Barrel Sauna, and it's scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I'm looking forward to the contrast therapy. I've been using cold outdoor showers for months and I'm now ready for a real cold plunge. I used your code RICHTER btw. :)

[@JohnRichterAustin]

James- you're welcome. Congratulations on taking this step to start your cold water immersion practice along with contrast therapy. Thank you for using my code- greatly appreciated. I'd love to hear about your first plunge. What temperature do you plan to start with?

[@KBradAdams]

James did you get it and curious how is the Hot compared to a basic tub in a bathroom or hot tub, does it get hot enough. Also what are your overall thoughts?

[@hongjames]

​@@JohnRichterAustin - I did get it!! It was so quick to set up. I started at 50 F, and on my FIRST plunge I could only stay in for 45 seconds until I got out. But on the 2nd round I found that "pocket", a feeling of warmth in the cold - after the 90 second mark. And made it to 3 minutes the 2nd try. It's all in the breathing. I now have a regular Sauna + Cold Plunge protocol where I'm doing 10-15 mins in the sauna, then 5 minutes in the cold plunge at 45 F (I'm finding this is my sweet spot, and don't feel the need to go down to 39 F). When I'm feeling sore or needing recovery, if I do three contrast rounds between Sauna and Cold Plunge, I sleep so well and get up the next day super refreshed.

[@hongjames]

@@KBradAdams Its gets up to 102 F and it's plenty hot enough for me. I guess it compares to a really hot bath. I use it 98% of the time for Cold. And expect to use it for hot every blue moon. My overall thoughts are that next to my Sauna, this is probably one of the best health investments I've made. I'm sleeping better than I have in years and I have much less inflammation and soreness in my body. The biggest surprise is the mood boost I get during the days when I did a Cold plunge the night before. Did you buy one yourself? or on the fence about it?

[@KBradAdams]

Thanks James! I am on the fence right now. Considering a hot tub but have been playing around with some colder stuff after workouts. Based on what you are saying I think it would be a great investment. I have an infrared sauna well home made one but it works great, so I think I might just do the cold version. Thanks again.

[@GrumpyOldGuy777]

Great review Sir!

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome! :)

[@js-cw5uv]

Buy a chest freezer and convert it takes a day or two saves you thousands

[@JohnRichterAustin]

JS - As I mentioned in the video, I have been an advocate for DIY chest freezers since 2017. As a matter of fact I wrote the book on the subject! For people who have a smaller budget, a chest freezer can be a great option. Also,- as I mentioned - it can also be a huge hassle if not set up correctly. For those who have it in their budget to buy a Plunge, it's not about saving money, it's about saving time, ease of setup and use, peace of mind, and the aesthetic. We all have different values, goals and budgets, and there are many ways to go about creating a cold water immersion practice.

[@bonbooty6611]

Hi John , I just had mine delivered, so excited. My outdoor patio stones are on an incline. I didn’t see anything on the plunge site about adjusting the feet underneath. Did you adjust yours at all or did you see anything about that option ?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Bon - congratulations on getting your Plunge! The feet underneath are very easy to adjust with your fingers. Here is what I recommend: 1. Get a level and find out how far off the plunge is left to right of front to back. 2. Before you connect the chiller, put down some cardboard or carpet to protect the tub and have someone help you turn it onto its front. The pump, filter, etc. will now be facing up. The six feet will be accessible. Adjust them as needed to make them level. 3. Set the Plunge upright and check with your level again. 4. Repeat if needed. Or you could have a two other people slightly lift the Plunge so you can access the feet underneath. This would make it quicker to dial in the correct level.

[@bonbooty6611]

@@JohnRichterAustin Thanks John for responding! i decided to flip it on it's side and adjusted the feet to it's maximum on the low end. It still wasn't quite enough but luckily some old bathroom tiles were just the right thickness to slide under the tub. I'm quite pleased.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@bonbooty6611 - That sounds like a serious amount of slope. I'm glad you found a creative solution!

[@bonbooty6611]

Hi John , I’m loving the plunge and have a couple of questions. 1) have you been able to use just H2O2 as the sanitizer or have you had to use something else like the baqua spa sanitizer? I was hoping the ozone , UV and 35% H2O2 would be adequate. 2) my pump has been very weak from day one. I just called customer service and they said my DC controller needs to be at 120 which is the max setting. Mine was at 101 which was the lowest setting so I think I’ve solved my issue. Now the water flies ! Can you confirm or do you have a beefier pump on the pro model ? I’ve been having some algae issues and I think it was large in part to the low flow rate. I’m going to drain and use some ahh-some pump cleaner to start fresh to get rid of some chunks that were growing. I’m willing to add bromine floater if I have to but since I’m the only one using it once a day , I thought it would stay cleaner. Thanks again and hope you’re well

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Glad to hear your loving your Plunge. 1) I have not use H2O2 as a sanitizer in The Plunge. The Baqua spa product is designed specifically for that purpose. Since May of 2021 with the Plunge Pro I have only use the built-in ozone, UV and sediment filter without adding anything else. Even making it available for the community, with random people who have not showered before, and somewhere between 10 to 20 people using it in a week, the water stays clean. 2) I'm glad to hear you figured out the issue with the pump. The pump on the Pro model is the exact same as the one on the standard model. The only difference between those two systems is the one horsepower chiller on the Pro model versus the 1/4 hp on the standard. I found that wiping the walls of the tub with the microfiber cloth once a week also helps keep it clean. Adding bromine should not be necessary. Do not mix H2O2 (or Baqua Spa) with either bromine or chlorine. Are you running the circulation pump 24/7? Do you have the red handle on the filter in the open position? How often are you changing or cleaning your filter?

[@bonbooty6611]

Thanks for the review John, i'm very interested in getting one. Do i set it on a timer? How does the plunge stay at a certain temp? Do i just set it to 55 degrees at forget it? I'm one person who might use it twice a day so i'm not sure i need the pro version. Not planning on a lot of use by multiple people. I bought your book a while ago but never built one because of the condo i lived in. Now that i'm in a house, i want to built a mini spa with infrared sauna and cold plunge. so excited to finally have this as the water in so cal doesn't really get cold enough for cold showers.

[@JohnRichterAustin]

You're welcome. It does not need a timer. You set the chiller to your target temperature and it takes care of the rest. There is an automatic 2-degree differential built in. So if you want your water at 55 F, you can set it for 55 and the chiller will kick on when the water temperature gets to 57 and will cool it back down and turn off when it reaches 55. Or you could set it at 53 F or 54 F, which would make the chiller turn on at 55 or 56. It really is super easy. Yes, if you are the only one using it, the standard version will be fine. Unless you live in a climate that gets very cold... in which case the hot and cold version would be a good idea because it has a built-in heater that prevents the water from turning into a block of ice when the outside temp gets too cold. :) Let me know if you have any other questions. Happy to help.

[@bonbooty6611]

@@JohnRichterAustin thanks John nice to see your face as I’ve only read your material so far. We have light frosts in the canyons where I live so I’m not going to sweat that and get the heated version. I also want to put the plunge recessed in a deck. Seems like that’s possible if I create an access panel for the chiller or would you say the chiller needs to be above deck ?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@bonbooty6611 - As long as there is ventilation below the deck, and you have easy access to the other equipment (power supply to plug in the chiller, and access to change the filter), it should be OK. I changed the filter with only 18" of space between the back of the tub and the wall, however, a wider space would have made it much easier!

[@bonbooty6611]

@@JohnRichterAustin thank you John !

[@spyxxx566]

can it withstand all weather? sun, snow, rain...etc?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

Good question. Yes. And the more you can do to protect it from the elements, the longer it will last. This is true of all equipment. :-)

[@spyxxx566]

and does the plumbing water source from our home faucet need to be connected feeding into the unit at all times?

[@JohnRichterAustin]

@@spyxxx566 - you full the tub with a garden hose (a sediment filter is included). After that, you only need to add water when needed. The Plunge is 100% self contained and does not connect to a water source. The only thing you need is an external power outlet to olug it into. When