The Poe Collector's TRUE Face (Zelda: Ocarina of Time Theory)

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The Poe Collector from Zelda: Ocarina of Time has for decades been the subject of theory after theory - could it be that the answer was staring us in the face? ... or the mask?
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@BanditGames
@BanditGames 2 жыл бұрын
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@noicer521
@noicer521 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos for a while and love all your theories mainly Zelda an fanf keep it up
@captain_unhinged4372
@captain_unhinged4372 2 жыл бұрын
Another solid original theory greatwork!
@JerryGLoveless
@JerryGLoveless 2 жыл бұрын
I was skeptical at first, but I'm pretty sure you convinced me.
@noicer521
@noicer521 2 жыл бұрын
@@JerryGLoveless same
@AlucardTheRedeemed
@AlucardTheRedeemed 2 жыл бұрын
The "little" brother of the blacksmiths in majora. The frack is with that dude?
@colinchildress1251
@colinchildress1251 2 жыл бұрын
The hook shot's laser sight was actually the Poe Seller all along.
@curryandrice7764
@curryandrice7764 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this is the real answer, everything else is lies
@Thinkafurr
@Thinkafurr 2 жыл бұрын
Came back to rewatch over morning coffee again. XD this us by far the best comment lmao.
@Crits-Crafts
@Crits-Crafts 2 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense... right down to the ahem... points on the statue in the desert temple
@ozias_is_sans
@ozias_is_sans 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@sotamg2169
@sotamg2169 2 жыл бұрын
the hookshot laser is a BOTW Guardian laser
@gamblegork6256
@gamblegork6256 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s the soldier because in the end credits you can see the happy mask Salesman at the Lon Lon ranch party which takes place in the adult timeline because the hero of time was already sent back to the child era
@BanditGames
@BanditGames 2 жыл бұрын
Almost covered this in the video actually, but cut it because of time/too much speculation (on my part) but it’s definitely a good counter point. My explanation per the video was that the Happy Mask Salesman persona was something he became in order to appear friendly to the Hylians, so perhaps he went back to his original appearance after Ganondorf was beaten. This is completely speculative of course.
@littleRedHead007
@littleRedHead007 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the soldier theory too
@Wendy_O._Koopa
@Wendy_O._Koopa 2 жыл бұрын
@@BanditGames In other words, you knew your theory was false, but since Mathew Pathew never mentions any of the very obvious reasons his theories don't work, why should you?
@ScarletRainfall
@ScarletRainfall 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wendy_O._Koopa What are you even talking about? He countered the point with a reasonable explanation. How does speculation = the theory being false?
@Wendy_O._Koopa
@Wendy_O._Koopa 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScarletRainfall If you openly admit that in order for your 'theory' to work you have to ignore large pieces of canon information, or come up with ridiculous maybe he changes back and forth between these two characters who don't act similar in any way... I wouldn't really call that a theory. I'd call that trolling. And who suspects the Dampé fanboy-kid? No one questions that he is actually the soldier that you meet in the same place seven years earlier who talks in roughly the same manor. It's Occam's razor. It's just like how everyone figured out the Hero's Shade was Ocarina Link years before it was ever confirmed. Some things are just so straightforward you'd have to be blind to miss them.
@NikkiTheViolist
@NikkiTheViolist 2 жыл бұрын
I still think it's the bored soldier, but you've made a pretty compelling case that whoever it is is wearing the Sheikah Mask
@ActivistBunnies
@ActivistBunnies 2 жыл бұрын
I figure it makes sense that the bored soldier would seek out the spookiest mask if it helped him see or talk to ghosts or something.
@danielwiebe619
@danielwiebe619 2 жыл бұрын
It is obviously a mask because, have you ever seen him blink?! Lol
@jordanbridges
@jordanbridges 2 жыл бұрын
It is the soldier. Dude is just creating content.
@seir323
@seir323 2 жыл бұрын
@@ActivistBunnies omg, you're so right! If a mask can help you read peoples' minds, then why wouldn't you also be able to read thoughts of the dead? I can totally see that. I think the Happy Mask Salesman is exactly that- the SALESMAN.
@-obamium5320
@-obamium5320 10 ай бұрын
Ya it was pretty obvious the soldier is the same room who talked about his knowledge of ghosts/poes being useful in the future. With his knowledge he’d know what tool is necessary to see poes. The guy was living his best life in the chaos.
@jackccurbs
@jackccurbs 2 жыл бұрын
I once connected his appearance with that of Bongo Bongo. He doesn't just have one eye, he kind of seems to be missing a head altogether. I thought that perhaps their shared strangeness of no head with a glowing eye in its place could be the result of a Sheikah execution gone wrong. This could also explain why the Poe Collector prefers Ganondorf: the loyalist Sheikah tried to kill him, but his angry spirit lingered in his mangled body.
@toolazytorenamemyself
@toolazytorenamemyself 2 жыл бұрын
I like this one.
@Arcana_Jester
@Arcana_Jester 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can tell Bongo Bongo was an execution (hands and head were removed). He was killed as a traitor, probably because he was Ganondorf's daddy, or if not that, loyal to the young King before death. Something similar could, in theory, have happened to the Poe Collector.
@AlysonBate
@AlysonBate 2 жыл бұрын
Glad someone else caught that, too! The glowing red "eye" is creepily similar...
@jrkb89
@jrkb89 2 жыл бұрын
Same thought here
@n.a.d.d.i4742
@n.a.d.d.i4742 2 жыл бұрын
What if the red glowing eye is actually a Gem? Like Koume's gem. She and her sister Kotake did mind control Nabooru
@franklinfleming1237
@franklinfleming1237 2 жыл бұрын
Lens of truth
@pettyblood_
@pettyblood_ 2 жыл бұрын
the creepy guard is the mask salesman he just runs to the shop and changes really fast when you go there
@MarshallTheArtist
@MarshallTheArtist 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. That is a fact.
@Not_Ciel
@Not_Ciel 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Happy Mask Salesman is every NPC in both games. He just frantically changes costumes all of the time.
@OsmowSaïk
@OsmowSaïk 2 жыл бұрын
:D
@pettyblood_
@pettyblood_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Not_Ciel the entire legend of zelda series is just a simulation for link run by the mask salesman
@mikeysrose
@mikeysrose 2 жыл бұрын
He takes a back alley and changes clothes while Castle Town is rendering.
@xperience8245
@xperience8245 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I always theorized when replaying this game is what if when the evils from the bottom of the well that were released that maybe the man with the eye who could see the truth also was released and this is him. Or he somehow escaped during the time skip.
@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388
@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that is Bongo Bongo.
@ironpulcinella3586
@ironpulcinella3586 2 жыл бұрын
"the man who could see the truth" was Sheikh. He died early after founding kakariko village. Zelda mascarades as him
@xperience8245
@xperience8245 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was too but if it's not then to me it would make sense.
@thebatmary5954
@thebatmary5954 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw him, I definitely thought that the one red eye was just a really big nose. So I guess add Rudolph the red nosed reindeer to the suspect list.
@michaelbird2011
@michaelbird2011 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I thought it was a nose. I am surprised everyone else thought differently
@kaisalati9197
@kaisalati9197 2 жыл бұрын
I also thought it was a nose when I was a kid, because of all the empty bottles beside him. When cartoons taught me something, then that quirky alcoholics have big red noses. So I always assumed it was a nose. And I still am. I don't think this big red dot is an eye. Maybe something else, but not an eye.
@ppiqua3523
@ppiqua3523 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I was scrolling through the comments to make sure I wasn't the only one. I also spent the whole video staring at the guy to try and decide if I could get myself to see it as an eye, and I just can't. It still looks like a nose to me
@AShardOfChaos
@AShardOfChaos 2 жыл бұрын
Me, too! I always just saw it as a nose and really never questioned it. 😂😂😂
@evgenih2930
@evgenih2930 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so much better others thought it was the nose!!
@LtDragonfruit
@LtDragonfruit 2 жыл бұрын
I always just assumed his "eye" was a severed bone because he was decapitated
@breathedreams7344
@breathedreams7344 2 жыл бұрын
Trippy
@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388
@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, just like Bongo Bongo.
@Leonhart-VIII
@Leonhart-VIII 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, i never saw it as an "Eye" it was a decapitated head all the time
@RandomNonSpecificPerson
@RandomNonSpecificPerson 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking through the comments to see if my theory was already here. And here it is. I do like the Happy Mask salesman theory though too.
@TheClintbeast
@TheClintbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@xionmemoria
@xionmemoria 2 жыл бұрын
Or the happy mask salesman fled when Ganondorf took over and either left behind or dropped the mask, allowing the guard to get his hands on it. It's not like he's known for having the best hold on his masks.
@HarrisHawk87
@HarrisHawk87 2 жыл бұрын
A thought I just had, which other people in the comments section have also mentioned, is that the red 'eye' might be the cross section of the neck as the result of decapitation. When you look at the proportions of the poe collector, his shoulders are very high up to where his 'red eye' is. And the top of the tunic looks like a high collar. Maybe it is the soldier from the child era, except he's missing a head 😬
@cioplasmmajic8327
@cioplasmmajic8327 2 жыл бұрын
One eye must mean it's the mask of Truth? Don't be absurd. It's obviously Bongo Bongo's little brother.
@Randy-yf2sv
@Randy-yf2sv 2 жыл бұрын
He does have a similar appearance....
@gamblegork6256
@gamblegork6256 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes Bongo Bongo’s little brother: Bingo Bongo
@andyq524
@andyq524 2 жыл бұрын
100% sure it's the guard. That being said, I never realized that the bottom part of the Sheika symbol was a teardrop. 🤦‍♂️ I think the guard pledged loyalty to Ganondorf much like Ingo did. He was given certain powers, and dressed himself up like a poe.
@jordanbridges
@jordanbridges 2 жыл бұрын
It is the guard
@MannyMartinezC
@MannyMartinezC 6 ай бұрын
A…tear of the kingdom?
@SirPonnd
@SirPonnd 2 жыл бұрын
I can think of one unfortunate caveat however. That being that Link can visit the Poe Seller with the Mask of Truth still in his inventory. Of course, he can't wear it, but he still has it. Maybe the Mask Salesman has multiple, but that seems unlikely, since it's supposedly a magical artifact of the Sheikah.
@Alphanaxx
@Alphanaxx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure when you talk to npcs as a child with the mask on you read their thoughts. I always thought it was the guard, after drinking too many Poes.
@kakarikokage2514
@kakarikokage2514 2 жыл бұрын
The Happy Mask Salesman is in the ending credit scene celebrating Ganondorf's defeat.
@Arch_The_Turtle
@Arch_The_Turtle 2 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about the poe hunter for a while because i replayed OoT not so long ago, so having our boyo bandit talking about it is great
@robotwizard8093
@robotwizard8093 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting theroy but one thing I would like to point out is the triforce imagery both on the poe collector and the paper behind him. Wouldn't that mean that he would have at least some sort of connection to the royal family making it more likely that the collector is the bored guard?
@SirPonnd
@SirPonnd 2 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, the Royal Family's crest is technically the loftwing and Triforce. The Triforce by itself is more universal, as it's a fundamental part of the worlds creation myth.
@MrBanksLP
@MrBanksLP 2 жыл бұрын
The Happy Mask Salesman has those conenctions too
@ironpulcinella3586
@ironpulcinella3586 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the triforce was the equivalent of a religious symbol. Like the Christian cross so meaning, Poe collector is a god fearing dude
@princesstrishabarney7355
@princesstrishabarney7355 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily because Gannondorf has the triforce of Power… so he could be the happy mask salesman still
@SirPonnd
@SirPonnd 2 жыл бұрын
@@ironpulcinella3586 It is a religious symbol. But it's also a universal one; not specific to any one people or theology. Pretty much all peoples know of the Triforce to some extent.
@Jin1412
@Jin1412 2 жыл бұрын
Always thought it was that one soldier but I do really like this theory. A lot of the points you made fit very well to me.
@KoffeeBean_Bunny
@KoffeeBean_Bunny 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the "single eye" was like..that circle in the middle of body parts that get cut off in cartoons and stuff 😬 I just always thought it was the guard from 7 years before after being decapitated by Ganon for ..well..doing what the royal guards are supposed to do and protect Zelda
@KiramRequiem
@KiramRequiem 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like Bongo Bongo
@raviolisgale7045
@raviolisgale7045 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I was like: Wait, that’s an eye?…Oh righttt yeah just an eye-
@KoffeeBean_Bunny
@KoffeeBean_Bunny 2 жыл бұрын
@@raviolisgale7045 Fr 😂 "Ohhh ...an eye....yeaaaahhhhhh lets go with that"
@blazeandrew9798
@blazeandrew9798 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I never thought too much about it either way as an 11 year old playing through this game, but if it had a head, wouldn't the proportions be all wacky? Legit question, I'm trying to picture all this and I can't.
@BirdieSenpai
@BirdieSenpai 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, my friend! A few things I'd like to point out that don't particularly prove nor disprove the theory, but just a few things to think about: The Happy Mask Salesman appears in the adult timeline celebration of Ganondorf's defeat, while the Poe Collector does not appear. While it would seem strange for someone who was singing Ganondorf's praises, on the grounds of business, earlier only to celebrate his sealing later, I could easily see the Poe Collector being an opportunist who watches out for his own hide and only his own hide, siding with the victor, no matter who that may be.
@Austar7
@Austar7 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up, I thought that red eye thing was his nose sticking out of the darkness beneath his hood or something. 😂
@Marx-XIII
@Marx-XIII 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I used to the that the Poe Collector was headless and that his “eye” was just where his head used to be. His posture is just so weird, even now when I look at him he looks like he has no upper body to me.
@KorokHaze93
@KorokHaze93 2 жыл бұрын
The poe collector is 100% the soldier. It's one of the only instances where Nintendo gave you every single GLARING reason to believe it's him and very very very few logical reasons to believe otherwise.
@lizblue159
@lizblue159 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the “eye” was a big red nose. Like the guy is drunk off his bottom cuz of all the dark stuff he’s seen. I never got why the “eye” was in the middle of the hood and not more up
@trifork0314
@trifork0314 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still sticking with the poe collector being the guard. Between the Triforce imagery, the guards dialogue, and being in the same place. I'm pretty sure that's the conclusion Nintendo wanted us to make. Saying the Happy Mask Salesmen requires a lot of rationalizations including ignoring Ocarina of Time's credits, ignoring the sudden lack of other masks in his possession, and some fairly large jumps in logic. As for the eye and powers I think given his line of work the poe collector easily could have just learned magic or could have made some sort of deal with the dead. Regardless of who it actually is. But hey it's still interesting food for thought and you can't please everyone. Keep up the content.
@Einlanzer83
@Einlanzer83 2 жыл бұрын
"ignoring the sudden lack of other masks in his possession" Bandit pointed out the shop was completely destroyed, which means the masks probably got destroyed too.
@93lozfan
@93lozfan 2 жыл бұрын
Another hypothesis about the single eye is that the shieka made the mask of truth based on people who achieved the ability to see into minds. Basically that when you get to see the truth your face distorts and your eyes merge or one eye becomes dominant and shifts to the center of your face. I'm thinking that in Legend of Zelda some artifacts have designs based on other in universe things. If I remember I'll put some examples in the comments of this post.
@TheLEGOZora
@TheLEGOZora 2 жыл бұрын
The Happy Mask Salesman is seen at the end of Ocarina of Time, yet he wasn't seen anywhere in the Adult timeline previous. Was he in hiding? Wearing a mask? Maybe.
@TheWizardMus
@TheWizardMus 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Poe Salesman's face was a decapitated neck
@DocTPepper
@DocTPepper 2 жыл бұрын
Solid theory~ I don’t see any faults in your reasoning either. Regarding the comment about the happy mask salesman in the adult era during the ending credits, he had no reason to be a Poe salesman since ganondorf was taken out of the picture. And he was rejoicing with the other townsfolk as he was (likely) happier to be a mask salesman rather than a straight up Poe gatherer.
@Frozen_Bubbles
@Frozen_Bubbles 2 жыл бұрын
The poe collector is clearly holding the same stick as the kid on the grave yard. But you probably noticed that already.
@OsmowSaïk
@OsmowSaïk 2 жыл бұрын
Might also be a spear. The kid’s stick would’ve had to grow up with him, so it wouldn’t be the ‘same’ ;)
@Frozen_Bubbles
@Frozen_Bubbles 2 жыл бұрын
@@OsmowSaïk Bruh sticks don't grow and this stick is bend and all other sticks in the game are straight.
@theknightofhyrule
@theknightofhyrule 2 жыл бұрын
I think that this couldn’t be plausible because of the happy mask salesman’s appearance during the credits. I don’t know, the guard theory is the only one that makes the most sense to me.
@chaosgremlin
@chaosgremlin 2 жыл бұрын
dude all I'm saying is that you could narrate audiobooks with your awesome voice
@Kolya-chu
@Kolya-chu 2 жыл бұрын
Okay. I’m convinced! The dialogue and the sense of humor. And the way he wants Link to bring him business which would make him “happy” convinces me.
@twosaturn_xd
@twosaturn_xd 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve allways wanted to know what the Poe collector’s face was.
@kingaflamez6941
@kingaflamez6941 2 жыл бұрын
"Man... I should have shaved. Seriously. Neckbeard much?? Ha ha... not that" Nah, man. I wonder what you look like with a full beard
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 2 жыл бұрын
Poe Collector always…looked more like a headless neck, with a cloak drawn over it like a hood, and a glowing False Eye where the head was severed. So…basically the same anatomy as Bongo Bongo. (This guy’s a dead man.)
@OsmowSaïk
@OsmowSaïk 2 жыл бұрын
…who is secretly trying to find his soul in form of one of the poes oO
@robinlagelius
@robinlagelius 2 жыл бұрын
It's obviously intended to be the soldier from the same room (based on location and dialogue) - it's a pretty clear example of foreshadowing. The reason he knows Link's name is because he spent hours with the pesky pot-smashing child seven years ago. As for the skin tone, occupation etc., they aren't exactly good criteria to base an argument on since many other characters fulfill those same criteria. Even if we grant that it could be the Happy Mask Salesman, it can't be on the grounds that he has the mask of truth - he doesn't. Link brings the mask of truth through the door of time (and it being grey in the inventory, in accordance with Navi's explanation that some items cannot be used by adults, disproves any supposed additional abilities that it would have for grown-ups - since grown-ups can't even don the mask). I will admit that the last point isn't foolproof, since other masks can be seen being worn by adults in the game even if Link can't wear them as an adult - but I believe the mask existing in your inventory is sufficient to disprove that the character is wearing it (unless there is more than one, which would be kinda silly based on the lore). One strong technical reason for there being only one mask of truth (beyond the Sheikah lore) is that you can't sell/buy this mask - you may only borrow it upon selling the rest (and upon borrowing it there are none left in stock). The Hylian attire also makes it very unlikely that the character is supposed to be the Happy Mask Salesman rather than the guard, since he has no direct affiliation with Hyrule.
@KomradeCPU
@KomradeCPU 2 жыл бұрын
You put a compelling case reminding us of the Salesman actions behind the smile, but I believe he's more ambitious than a poe collector; after all, his mask are built of emotions, not only the bad ones, that's why he opened shop in Hyrule after the civil war.
@BaronSterling
@BaronSterling 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I always saw the "red eye" as a bloody neck stump, and that the Poe Collector was a headless spirit of some kind. I mean, if that *is* an eye, it's awfully close to his shoulders. His head beneath that hood would have to be quite small.
@TheDarthSoldier
@TheDarthSoldier 2 жыл бұрын
Or, or!... that big red "eye" is actually a giant inflamed pimple on the guy's nose
@sakurakitsunestar
@sakurakitsunestar 2 жыл бұрын
Due to just legitly being creepy and his weird body shape I always assumed he was a just another monster/ baddie that moved in after the town fell like the redead Heck I thought he could even be some kind of necromancer or something and he directly made the redeads
@OsmowSaïk
@OsmowSaïk 2 жыл бұрын
I read redeads as ‘redheads’ and was a bit confused :D
@hell5738
@hell5738 2 жыл бұрын
@@OsmowSaïk same 💀
@jitterysonic
@jitterysonic 2 жыл бұрын
i always imagined the poe collector’s “eye” as a big goofy nose
@trinitymeyer593
@trinitymeyer593 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the poe collector, I thought they were a subrosian lol. They probably aren't a Subrosian, but the Subrosians also only have 1 eye and wear hooded cloaks so I couldn't help but notice the similarities lol.
@marissaschad
@marissaschad 2 жыл бұрын
Subrosians have two eyes, but great theory. It would be really cool if subrosians were in other Zelda games :)
@trinitymeyer593
@trinitymeyer593 2 жыл бұрын
@@marissaschad oh, I've always thought it was one eye with a slit pupil lol
@Stahlberri
@Stahlberri 2 жыл бұрын
Love love loved this theory! Happy mask salesman is my favorite character and I actually made a cosplay of the poe collector a while back so imagining i had actually cosplayed as hms brings me great joy.
@hylianjim6484
@hylianjim6484 2 жыл бұрын
Another factor is that while the Poe Collector and the Happy Mask Salesman are in Termina, young and adult Malon are in Termina as Romani and Cremia, so it still adds up. Great stuff!
@darkzomboy8342
@darkzomboy8342 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that “red eye” was just a beheaded neck.
@AlucardTheRedeemed
@AlucardTheRedeemed 2 жыл бұрын
Like bongo bongo. Nice.
@Bobbeyjazz
@Bobbeyjazz 2 жыл бұрын
I also thought this. My headcanon is that this soldier became a traitor to the Royal Family at the beginning of Ganondorf's attack, got beheaded as a punishment, and then revived by Ganondorf as a "gift" when he finally took over, but since Ganondorf only had the Triforce of Power, he wasn't able to fully restore the soldier's body and therefor has to stay hooded since all there would be where his head was would be a stump.
@DarkMirria1
@DarkMirria1 2 жыл бұрын
That’s basically what Bongo Bongo is.
@SonicJrandSarah
@SonicJrandSarah 2 жыл бұрын
I think this theory makes sense. Although, the Happy Mask Salesman does appear during the end credits of Ocarina of Time. You didn't mention that.
@javier8965
@javier8965 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you were originally supposed to supply guards everywhere with masks. And somehow he ends up with the Mask of Truth.
@superkillermandon575
@superkillermandon575 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmm pretty sure that if you complete the mask trade quest you keep the mask of truth (I mean it's not like you can sell it) so if you have it when going to the future then how can the mask salesman use it to turn into the poe collector if you still have it in your inventory?
@namiku12
@namiku12 2 жыл бұрын
I was just barely looking at theories before I saw this pop up! What perfect timing.
@IamCanadian3333
@IamCanadian3333 2 жыл бұрын
I do feel the Hylian Soldier is the most plausible candidate.
@DarkMirria1
@DarkMirria1 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@jenna_bean0_137
@jenna_bean0_137 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, glowing is sus. Also, I love this theory!! The vibes of the Poe collector feel very similar to the happy mask salesman, especially the way that he kicks his feet and sways around, just feels…weird
@NamonakiDono
@NamonakiDono 2 жыл бұрын
You know, reexamining the model, I think that "eye" might be a stylized neck stump. He's not hooded, he's wearing a shroud over his shoulders and a bit hunched over. Tho that still doesn't answer who he is.
@seretith3513
@seretith3513 2 жыл бұрын
I still think it's the Soldier, this feels like a Strech and it appears it's intended for us to think it's the Guard.
@NateIsCorrupt
@NateIsCorrupt 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Poe collector is the guard from when Link was a child but you made some great points about the mask salesman.
@a.m.gnovember151
@a.m.gnovember151 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos bro, keep up the good work, you just keep getting better.
@OsmowSaïk
@OsmowSaïk 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t the poe collector from MM also just be a parallel version of the happy mask salesman from termina, lore-wise?
@RyanHaney55
@RyanHaney55 2 жыл бұрын
I've always just figured it was the bored soldier, with his dialog and all. But, the points here about the Happy Mask Salesman make sense.
@censoreverything8072
@censoreverything8072 2 жыл бұрын
"And it's all because of the Poe Hunter's big red--" "Nose?" "Eye!" "Oh.... oh.... okay."
@LilGasmask
@LilGasmask 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought he had the mask, made sense since it was one eye and was able to look j in to my soul and mind.
@skullkid7989
@skullkid7989 2 жыл бұрын
Hey it’s good seeing your videos again
@ShadowSora8491
@ShadowSora8491 2 жыл бұрын
While I do find your theory interesting, I still think that the Poe Collector is the bored guard who was present in that same spot, during Link's childhood, since he wanted more troubles in the world and already had a fascination with ghosts. As weird as the Happy Mask Salesman is, he didn't want to see Termina destroyed by Majora's Mask, and was quite impressed with the fact that Link made so many people happy, by the end of the game. He seemed to be relieved that the evil power of Majora had left Majora's Mask, after Link defeated Majora. If he really was a supporter of evil, I don't see why he would be relieved to see a great evil like Majora being vanquished, and a whole entire land being saved. Also, in the adult timeline, we see him celebrating Ganondorf's defeat at the hands of Link, Zelda and the Sages, along with a lot of the residents of Hyrule.
@poobs3540
@poobs3540 2 жыл бұрын
It could also be the kid who is now grown up and could now be considered by the mask 'old enough' to read peoples minds plus the stick is decent cause for the child.
@SpideyDeEEee
@SpideyDeEEee 2 жыл бұрын
Havnt even watched it yet but i agree with this theory 10/10 great job bandit
@noicer521
@noicer521 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@christianalfaro3397
@christianalfaro3397 2 жыл бұрын
I love his Zelda videos
@DarkMirria1
@DarkMirria1 2 жыл бұрын
The Happy Mask Salesman in OoT can be seen during the end credits at the party at Lon Lon Ranch. (Adult timeline) In Majora’s Mask another Poe collector is found in the game in Ikana while Happy Mask salesman is hanging out inside the clock tower.
@Nageto004
@Nageto004 2 жыл бұрын
Always read the red eye as being a neck stump and that the Poe Collector's head had been cut off at some point during the seven years Ganondorf ruled. I always kinda assumed he was basically a grim reaper figure, a spectral being collecting souls.
@Thinkafurr
@Thinkafurr 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh. It works Mr Bandit. (Note I am referring to the possible person, as "He" so as not to spoil for other viewers) Due to timeline splits, he really could have passed away/died in the Adult timeline. Meanwhile, in the split, second child timeline in which Link is sent back into after completing OOT, Link Continues as a child into the world of Termina to meet "him". A seperate him from this specific child timeline. Its totally possible even if Link was just sent back to the very same child timeline.
@Scar-jq2co
@Scar-jq2co 2 жыл бұрын
now my perspective has changed…
@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi6655
@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi6655 2 жыл бұрын
Saber: when i stopped watching every other kid shows, i could still come back to Arthur and i don't know why. Me: EVERY DAY WHEN YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND EVERY BODY THAT YOU MEET HAS AN ORIGINAL POINT OF VIEW
@franklinfleming1237
@franklinfleming1237 2 жыл бұрын
Remnents of the hyrulian Civil War
@Qildor88
@Qildor88 2 жыл бұрын
I like that theory and it have better meaning than what I have thought since I played it for the first time as a kid. I always thought that it was the guard. But the happy mask salesman theory is much better.
@rtuggle82
@rtuggle82 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really good theory. Like, Scooby-Doo-Mystery-When-I-Was-A-kid good.
@timothyrosenvall1496
@timothyrosenvall1496 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bandit, I don’t know if this is widely accepted or not, but I thought you might be interested. The Divine Prank: At the end of OoT. Link was sent back in time and retained the Triforce of Courage. This is why he was able to convince the King of Hyrule that Ganondorf was evil. Because he was now in a timeline with the Triforce of Courage, the other two Triforce pieces then went to their most worthy counterparts. This is why Ganondorf had the Triforce of Power at his execution within the child timeline.
@madamplatypus313
@madamplatypus313 2 жыл бұрын
On Majora’s Poe Collector, maybe he’s the Happy Mask Salesman’s Termanian equivalent who dropped the friendly persona since his world was so much darker and deadlier? Just a thought.
@TheLadyLiddell
@TheLadyLiddell 2 жыл бұрын
Before watching this video I believed the Poe Salesman was the guard, but honestly you've convinced me.
@RoachieWoW
@RoachieWoW 2 жыл бұрын
It cant be the mask salesman because he’s seen at the end dancing with everyone(which is technically the adult timeline still)
@dylanyewest534
@dylanyewest534 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I always thought the red eye was his nose 😂
@ay5471
@ay5471 Жыл бұрын
I literally thought I was the only one 😂
@BLAzinStRipePiPes10
@BLAzinStRipePiPes10 2 жыл бұрын
I always assumed that it was the soldier, but even if it's not I don't think it's a one-eyed character. I think it is someone whose face is almost completely obscured by their hood. That all being said, I'm always up for a new Bandit theory.
@eessppeenn001
@eessppeenn001 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't look like the poe collector has a head. It looks more like a neck with a central eye with just a hood covering it. A neck with a central red eye. Reminds me of bongo bongo. Might they be related?
@speedy_brennan
@speedy_brennan 2 жыл бұрын
You did say something interesting about why the Happy Mask Salesman left Hyrule. Maybe in true he was fallowing Link because he knew death would fallow Link. Which then leads to him getting all the Mask in Major's Mask.
@Nervete
@Nervete 11 ай бұрын
I was really young when I first played Ocarina of Time, and at the time I had only one eye for a good chunk of the day due to a condition that required a lot of patching. In a very weird way, I think I connected to him more than any other character at the time.
@YeetMeDadi
@YeetMeDadi 2 жыл бұрын
Super awesome theory. One of the best I've been able to buy into from anyone in a long time
@Nicksolo85
@Nicksolo85 Жыл бұрын
I just spent years assuming the Poe Collector was the Hyrule Castle soldier who said he'd prefer if there were more problems in the world & that he studies Poes. I hadn't considered this theory & I think it's a very interesting 1. As far as the boy in the Graveyard... I'm surprised he wasn't around as an adult to take over as the Graveyard Keeper as he said he wanted to be like Dampe as a child.
@sparkiebunnie8
@sparkiebunnie8 2 жыл бұрын
The Poe Hunter having no face argues that Bandit has been in the Zelda World this whole time.
@drswag0076
@drswag0076 2 жыл бұрын
we see the Happy Mask Salesman in the credits of OOT he's with the other people dancing in Lon-Lon Ranch.
@mariecruz90
@mariecruz90 2 жыл бұрын
Bandit: Ever heard of the Zelda game called Ocarina of Time? Me: well, no- Bandit: The answer's YES
@Mr_Fourshot
@Mr_Fourshot 2 жыл бұрын
This cannot be possible, because the Happy Mask Salesman is in the ending credits cutscene dancing in Lon Lon ranch.
@bladesinclair2034
@bladesinclair2034 2 жыл бұрын
My own canon is the child in the Kak graveyard is the Poe collector. He was a child who wanted to be a grave keeper and linger around ghosts. They both wear masks. After 7 years the boy doesn't appear as a grown up, and both characters carry sticks and intermittently strike their sticks on the ground in similar animations.
@darkpit37
@darkpit37 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't at all be a stretch to say the Poe collector's hood looks a bit like if the happy mask salesman flipped his cloak inside out and wore it weird.
@manupm9161
@manupm9161 2 жыл бұрын
My theory about who he is is that he is a corrupted that made a deal with Ganondorf in order to get back to life with the condition that he is condemned to give him another poes souls in order to power up his army/castle/himself, needing 1000 souls to pay off his debt.
@HDGamerofficial
@HDGamerofficial 2 жыл бұрын
I love this theory!! So cool talking about this spooky boi with a twist of who you think he is
@SuperJhon360
@SuperJhon360 2 жыл бұрын
i always thought he was missing his head and we were looking down his neck like how bongo bongo has one big red and yellow eye
@ChaosSono
@ChaosSono 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl as a kid I always thought the Poe Seller just had a big round nose that was sticking out of the shadow under the hood. It never occurred to me that it might be a single glowing eye lol.
@herrmajestat
@herrmajestat 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say its the kid. He equips a stick, patrols the graveyard and mayhaps grow interested in ghosts after aquiring the spooky mask and then start a business like Dampe. The eye? It’s a mask he made himself of a tektite.
@THIAGOSANTOSOFICIAL100
@THIAGOSANTOSOFICIAL100 2 жыл бұрын
BanditGames This defines what your true face looks like without the hood. Now what about the Moon Children? What is their face like without the mask?
@Zeldahol
@Zeldahol 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Bandit!! That Mask Salesman... he's sketchy. Don't let him in your house. See ya Dude.
@jonasgisel3707
@jonasgisel3707 2 жыл бұрын
In a way I really love the theory about the mask and the salesman! There's just one thing that I find hard to believe: Would the happy mask salesman really abandon all (but one) mask?
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