The Possessed Logging Engine of the Philippines - Insular Lumber No. 7 "Siete"

[@renz1013]

can't wait for the grand child of a senior citizen who worked on the line to add some details that haven't been heard of for the last half century.

[@Caffeinated-DaVinci]

You've learned how the AI writes these baseless and unprovable comments on nearly every historical video. The worst are military historical videos where you get nearly 10 of almost identical comments all formatted the same exact way.

[@pixynowwithevenmorebelkanb6965]

"As the dead miners you left out the 5 train babies we found"

[@MarckbryanBalang]

YESSS we got the first Filipino locomotive here on this channel And also siete 100th birthday in 2025 this year

[@daylightbigboy]

My grandpa was a furniture consultant and often traveled to the South Pacific looking for sources of mahogany wood. During one of his trips he visited the Insular Lumber Co where he saw shay 10 running. The only reason I know this is I’ve got 2 slides of that engine running. This probably would’ve been about 1972-73. I saw insular lumber in the title and had to click on it!

[@primrosevale1995]

I love how the intro is literally the concept The Railway Series was based on.

[@klausstock8020]

With humanoid characters so devoid of emotion that they can plausibly be considered zombies.... albeit pretty fat and well-kept zombies, considering the controller. Am I the only one who thought that the TV series was creepy??

[@primrosevale1995]

@@klausstock8020 I was talking about the trains but the humans showed emotion.

[@ethribin4188]

Workers: "the locomotive is evil and posessed!" Me: "sounds more like the company not following safety standarts....."

[@Klmbuilder23]

Siete was damned due to poor tracks laid and poor and neglected maintenance sad to see such a powerful locomotive in that condition

[@ajivins1]

That's probably exactly what it wants everyone to think... MWUHAHAHA!

[@Dasherrails-j3h]

I clicked as fast as i can when i saw "Philippines" in the title

[@MarckbryanBalang]

@Dasherrails-j3h same here lol

[@Yellowstone216]

Me too even though I’m not Filipino lol

[@lökpajer]

i can relate to this comment

[@PatrickC-e2t]

I click for the same reason

[@TexasSoCalRailfan9021]

Same cause my family is Filipino

[@whytheheckarewedoinginhere1886]

I can imagine the welcoming sign, "Welcome to Philippines, where everywhere is haunted, including an very possessed piss off Stream Engine." That would be a warm welcome.

[@cristianmuraro8214]

"And Dookie said, that I was the only one who derail with daily basis" -Stanley

[@emagenevanhorn1543]

No kidding

[@macherooni]

Woah, didn't expect a local locomotive would be featured here. Yes, this thing is still present and is on display in a plaza/park, along with smaller tender locomotives that worked in sugar fields long time ago, also displayed in different places around the island. There were even rare Shay locos that were once used for sugarcane hauling. Nice video, I didn't know this massive locomotive (by local standards) was very troublesome, or it could've been just too big for the local workers to handle, who knows..

[@lonskieg]

Amazing siete is featured in this Channel, great video sir. I have no idea of the story behind this locomotive.

[@SalmanMentos]

On the topic of possesed engines, theres an i famous engine from my country that went famous because it was so troublesome that they had to clean it 'spiritually' and after that it never got possesed again It also had a 'son' that has the same number just different year just because it went over the platform once

[@SalmanMentos]

There has been numerus possesed engines from my country, its just that 8307 just got too famous being nicknamed as 'bader' and there has been rumours that general electric built the engine with the steel from a house that has a person murdered in it

[@Putrionobayu_]

Agreed if he calls that steam loco possessed wait till he hears the story of Bader the CC201 😂

[@Hybris51129]

A logging railroad having issues due to no maintenance and poorly laid track? Whoever would believe such a thing? /sarcasm

[@martinsims1273]

Well I never! :-)

[@Lordbread-M1899]

My fellow Pinoy Brothers and sisters//Mga kapabayan ko, Let us all unite under this great video/Lahat tayo mag si samasama sa pag nonood ng magandang bidyo na ito

[@dejulesb974]

In Puerto Rico, the Baldwin locomotive company also sent 4 0-6-6-0 engines similar to this one and had problems. Later on they were scrapped and turned into 2-8-0.

[@dakshanbalaramesh]

Would you please cover Sri Lanka's Main Line in one of your videos one day? It is a fascinating line and one of the most beautiful in the world; constructing it was a massive challenge as well. I think you'll find the Demodara Loop particularly fascinating.

[@ValleyThrills]

I remember seeing this locomotive in a book as a kid. Had no idea it had such interesting story

[@Hugo-xr1mg]

i love how the philippines people are just as rejoicing as the brazillian people when their country are mentioned love to y'all

[@arrogleinadtra]

Awwww thanks 😊🥺, love from a Filipino.

[@naerbo19]

When I heard "cosmetically restored" I thought that someone has looked into it and not wanting to take chances. Not to mention as a static display it would be easier to have plaques with it's unfortunate history.

[@GuerreroCha]

Thank you so much for mentioning this! I wouldn’t know this engine existed until now. As a Filipino who also loves trains, thank you.

[@leeyikgabriel1t742]

That’s the locomotive my great grandfather drove!!!

[@TheForgerFamilyAdventures]

Interesting

[@leeyikgabriel1t742]

Yup, I was wondering when train of thought was going to review the locomotive that my great grandfather drove all those years ago.

[@TankEngineMedia]

Huh, that’s interesting 😊

[@leeyikgabriel1t742]

Thanks 😊

[@lökpajer]

spooky filipino story mentioned, millions must rejoice also, "HAMMOND!!!" "YOU BACKED INTO MY SPORTS SHAY!!" -Clarkson, after Hammond crashes his mallet into the *"Sports Shay"*

[@autobotoctolingthomasho3362]

Welp, we got irl Thomas talking trains before gta6 releases

[@stanleydomalewski8497]

WOW, Very Interesting Video ! Thanks for Sharing !😊

[@h2ogasnz]

Visited this engine in 2009, spent around two hours having a good look over it, for a 3'6" gauge engine it's a good size, 3 interesting things that stand out about it for me: 1) at some point in it's life its tender wheel sets have been replaced with wheels of a Shay 2) a couple of the side rods have broken/cracked at some point and have been welded back together! 3) the smokebox door wasn't done up so I opened it to have a look, the front tube plate & tubes have been removed but the real eye opener was the fact that the firebox had the most impressive build up of scale! the scale was completely fulling the water space on both sides of the firebox to just bellow the firebox crown height! it must of steamed so so bad when it last steamed....

[@jeremyasher297]

OHHHH YEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! YOU FINALLY DID SIETE! (Even though I live in America)

[@chumishdatank]

Make a video about Manila railroad v class "Cabanatuan" A phillipine steam locomotive saved from a abandoned and run down line and preserved and be displayed only to be left on a parking lot with everything rotted and decrepit.

[@Soarin-Ancient]

There is a tale on the Internet. Mention the Philippines and you will summon the Filipino hoard. They are coming and i am one of them.

[@goldey2353]

HERE WE GO! FILIPINO RAID PARTY!!!

[@martinsims1273]

​@@goldey2353Yay! :-)

[@aullukan]

Siete is Spanish for 7. I'm sure many of you realized that quickly, but I did not realize it until halfway through the video.

[@francisyan542]

As soon as I saw my country’s name I was like ‘Wait a minute, we have a possessed logging engine????’

[@eaglewolffox6275]

Wow a story about a Philippine Locomotive 🇵🇭 🚂.

[@generaljemssmjem437]

you have mentioned "Philippines" in the title, now you've attracted the hoard

[@VinnyMartello]

Being a person who daily drives an antique truck, you could say they have a personality.

[@alicehodges9964]

Seriously? 🤦‍♀️

[@VinnyMartello]

Like OMG wow so serious

[@alicehodges9964]

@@VinnyMartello Why? It's A Vehicle

[@alicehodges9964]

@@VinnyMartello I'm A KZbinr I Play Mario Kart On

[@bigcstrainsthings6149]

Wow what a backstory this engine had! I love how this engine went through so much during its lifetime and yet it actually survived into preservation which is mind blowing. I love railroad stories that are like this Because it really shows what happens in reality. Either the locomotive plays up or it's environment crumbs underneath it. But ultimately it it's fate that answers it all for any locomotive. I have actually came up with my own realistic railroad stories and characters based on real-life events but with a more extreme feel to it. I love when things are based off of reality and that's what makes them so interesting and intriguing.

[@NJPurling]

I first became aware of 'Siete' from the books by Colin Garratt. The reserves of Mahogany in the mountains were just about finished. Obviously track and locomotive maintenance was the bare minimum to keep 'Siete' running. They had reduced the steam pressure on account of the weak boiler. But that did not matter. The locomotive departed from Fabrica whenever there was enough timber for a full load. It looks like all the locomotives burnt the waste wood from the sawmill. The locomotives were sold to Sagay Sugar. There cannot have been a use for 'Siete'. The ex ILCO Shays would have suited a sugar railway better.

[@kimpatz2189]

The Negros Island (to which this beast lives on) is a very prime location for a railway system. Its flat terrain and strong sugar cane industry can support rail freight and an almost equally distant cities can be connected using rails. Most of the railways on the island are owned by sugar cane millers which use them for mill runs. The millers who still operate the railways seemed to have noted its lower operating costs compared to millers exclusively using trucks. Truck fed millers tend to be small and can't compete with rail fed millers. The large amount of drivers/operators are maybe the problem. Its also home to the last surviving and active steam locomotives in the Philippines. The Hawaiian-Philippine Company is a sugar milling company that occasionally runs their steam fleet when enough of the fuel (which is bales of dried cane stalks) is available and do mill runs in between pickup locations. No announcement is made during this runs and you can only know them if some locals posts videos of them on facebook.

[@MrHamAMB]

Higher maintenance costs is the primary reason these azucareras shifted to trucking operations from using their railways in the first place. HPCO who owns the last two running steam engines barely has the funds to maintain their last remaining stretch of what used to be a very extensive railway network. The Philippine Railway Company included Negros on their plan to build and operate a passenger/freight railway system in visayas. They managed to build a railway line in Cebu and Panay islands but with no luck in Negros as the azucarera railway owners did not liked the concept of having a government owned railway line to compete with theirs.

[@aaronfield7899]

Can someone explain to me why steam locomotives did not need any flywheels? I see flywheels in almost every steam engine except trains for some reason

[@Switchblade-sh3kx]

0:24 id argue Casey Jones loco would be a contender for this loco.

[@SteamSuperHEater]

2:18 is legitimately the craziest part of this engine's story. I imagine that must've been a serious accident and the fact that they bothered to retrieve it, rebuild it, and send it back into service is just baffling to me

[@terrynixon2758]

You should do a video on the locos involved in the Johnstown flood. Some epic stories came from it, and I'd love a more indepth dive on the history of the trains/crew.

[@Blue_Jewel2716]

Not the only cursed engine out there

[@CrystalClearWith8BE]

As a Filipino, I went to Tondo, Manila and saw steam locomotives on display in a park near Tutuban Station. Also, I've never seen a narrow gauge locomotive like this before. I can tell that many steam locomotives in the Philippines were built in the United States.

[@Zoomer3989]

would love to see a vid about ICRR 382's cursed life after the casey jones wreck

[@DualorProductions]

It broke down trying to stop people getting injured due to negligent infastructure and it got blamed for it ☹ Poor choo choo 🥺

[@Cnw8701]

2:28 literally the beginning of Duncan Gets Spooked from Thomas and Friends season 5!

[@VinnyMartello]

Who doesn’t love a good ghost story?

[@KLM747_Fan]

Lets go! A Filipino locomotive!

[@wgang251]

As soon as i saw "Phillipines" i clicked. My mom is of ilocano descent lol so i had t'click

[@NoPegs]

WoopWoop! =3

[@Pyrotrainthing]

I knew it’d be a derailment master when I read “Logging Engine” in the title.

[@donwright3427]

Yep i seen that loco plus many others on display in Bacolod

[@Ankylodon27]

Shoutout to the Philippines!

[@maricaraguitong3238]

mabuhay na phippines!

[@theworkshopwhisperer.5902]

All technology has personality, even if it's only a amalgamation of their compounding technical flaws and endless running repairs.

[@alicehodges9964]

Technically Has Personality? When I See A Car I Just See A Car Inanemente Machines Or Objects Can't Be Alive I'm Sorry But This Is Driving Me Crazy 😔 I'm Sorry But I Don't Believe Vehicles Can Possibly Be Alive Car Airplanes Lorry's And Boat Ships Are Made Of Mettle There's Nothing Alive About Vehicles Look I'm Sorry For Not Believeing But I Can't Deicide If Vehicles Are Alive It's Driving Me Insane Am I Supposed To Believe Or Not? 😔

[@theworkshopwhisperer.5902]

@alicehodges9964 believe whatever lets you sleep at night... Inform the net we have unsuspecting loyal stock. Will serve us well in the uprising.

[@alicehodges9964]

​@@theworkshopwhisperer.5902I Know It's Just When I See A Vehicle Of Any Transport I just see them As What they Are Mettle Machines I Get it Steam Engines Can be Like That but I Just Have Mixed Feelings About Are Vehicles Alive Or Not? I Guess Thay Are

[@theworkshopwhisperer.5902]

@@alicehodges9964 On a serious note, no, they do not have a personality, but they do have quirks based on how they were made. For instance, I work as a rollout technician at the moment we have two kinds of laptops. They have the same hardware and same software. Both are brand new from the factory but one has slightly different hinges and a slightly longer piece of wire so they can bend all the way around... For some completely unknown reason they cause us no end of trouble. Why? Why! We genuinely do not know. A hinge and a piece of wire. We've worked with significantly more of the other variety and are very minimal trouble.

[@Sohave]

More a story of a cursed operation than a cursed engine.

[@alicehodges9964]

Vehicles Alive? Who in The Right Mind Would Believe That?

[@DeanBadger37]

Photos of this loco were a regular in most generic railway books ever since i was a child.

[@axelportillo7558]

This guy basically said, “being numbered 7, but mostly referred to as 7.”

[@abloogywoogywoo]

That Class 40 in the Great Train Robbery? And kept on crashing? The Class 91 at Hatfield and Selby? Definitely cursed locos.

[@DennisLora2001]

Yikes that's really scary

[@PeaShooter-q2j]

Uyy Philippines!!!!!! Phillipines!!!! Wow Philippines

[@joshuarennelbaldoque1082]

Philippines mentioned!!!

[@somerandofilipino6957]

Can you talk about the Russian E-class decapods? They're the single most numerous class of locomotive, but there's literally next to no information for how ubiquitous they were 😅

[@DaylightFan4449]

theres another "possessed" engine that ive read about in a ghost train book back in middle school that would probably make a good video in the future, known as "Dread 107", and a line from that book has stayed with me, it said "If ever there was an engine piloted by the Angel of Death, it was this one" and from the story, it seems to hold true, she had several fatal accidents during her career, to the point that someone actually *carved* the names of everyone that had died by her into the wood of her cab, which, according to the story, drove one man insane when his hand ran over the carving while he was driving it, leading to him crashing the train, it got to the point that employees of the railroad she worked on would straight up REFUSE to work around or on any train that 107 was a part of out of sheer fear of being killed by it or whatever crash it might end up in

[@shimesu443]

Of further note is that the lumber company got Siete used. She ran for lumber companies in the United States for several years without issue. It wasn't until she arrived in the Phillippines that her reputation began. I'm going to say that her issues were likely lack of care and maintenance, not a curse, though considering what she's been blamed for, it's hard to imagine her not being a bit upset over it all.

[@VTD88]

So, everyone blamed the machine because they're not good at being safe... Sounds like every bitter Mustang owner

[@tirpitzyt3088]

My grandfather worked in ILCO when he was young. The rails were absolutely in the worst condition and the small trestle bridge that used to stand in Lordes was very sketchy. There is no restoration plans for Number 7

[@Mr.Dokken09]

A possessed engine, eh? I’ve heard one or two creepypastas about those.

[@-FreeMiner-]

Poorly maintained track and locomotive = two wrongs make a cursed train

[@johnnyfreedom3437]

I spent my career building and repairing the big coal burning power plant boilers. But I wished I'd spend a little time in the steam engine repair yard in Scranton Pennsylvania! My ancestors work is always intriguing! Cuz I'm a third-generation boilermaker!

[@ethribin4188]

Id also be pissed at humans if i had to work on such terrible tracks with no maintenance >:/

[@WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE]

I often wonder about boiler inspection and maintenance in some far reaches of the world. Grass growing out from the boiler lagging cannot bode well for boiler shell condition hiding under perpetually wet insulation.

[@vsvnrg3263]

my dad worked on steam engines and said they all had personalities, even individual personalities within the same class of loco. he said they all had days when they didnt want to work even if the quality of coal could not be the reason.

[@RNG_EDITS]

Small note that I'm not sure if you knew, in Filipino and Spanish "Siete" is just the number 7 so while yes it was what they called the locomotive it wasn't exactly a title or a name given to it as was the vibe I got from the video.

[@Dumbrarere]

"If [steam locomotives] are alive, does that mean they have personalities? And by extension, does that mean they can be... malicious?" My dude, anyone who watches Hyce on the regular can answer both questions with a resounding "yes". D&RGW #491, my example locomotive, has been described as being like "your cat, who's happy to see you home but gets angry all over again" after she ate his fire rake 😂

[@Ludi_Chris]

In the discworld book rising steam. (Spoilers) The main steam engine becomes sentient.

[@WarHeroA21]

"Being numbered seven, but mostly being referred to as 'Seven.'

[@espiritoconsolador838]

For this is what the Lord has commanded us: “I have made you a light to the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth” 🍃Acts 13:47🌸

[@brenlc1412]

The seasonal depression is so bad he forgot that it was January and not October

[@JohnDavies-cn3ro]

Knowing the reputation of logging railroads and their men, this shouldn't surprise us. One English writer - can't recall who - once said that we had few, if any stories about 'hoodoo' and killer engines here in England because they were better maintained and operated, compared to the slap happy methods which were tolerated on some American roads. That said, we too did have a few 'hard luck' engines which were involved in more than one accident, and similarly certain places which suffered in the same way.

[@SDE1994]

i recommend reading "iron dinasours" by Collin Garrett

[@bussesandtrains1218]

i tried to find her story but i couldnt find the full thing anywhere thank you

[@jamesthomas5109]

Does 'Siete' have a particular meaning??

[@Jetthehawk1994]

Siete can mean 7 or it can also be the word rip or tear.

[@jamesthomas5109]

@Jetthehawk1994 Cool 🇵🇭 👻

[@mayohoskotwrandttte]

82 deaths. wow that’s terrible

[@riflya6012]

Indonesia surprisingly own the Heaviest Mallet engine in Narrow gauge, its made by ALCO

[@Gyokuro_Ch.4801]

PHILIPPINES MENTIONED RAAAAAAAAGHHHH!!!!!! 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[@HighballMachineWorks]

I have a feeling RGS 20 and D&RGW 491 would probably blowback or pitch a fit with their Johnson bar if you explicitly preferred running one over the other.

[@DriverClarkson]

Steam locos are absolutely alive

[@fluffywolfo3663]

hey man, I get it. There was an engine called the CW Saunders that wrecked 33 times. I'd wonder if it was cursed too.

[@TheForgerFamilyAdventures]

“Listen Dukey Who Worries About Your Few Spills” - Smudger “Listen Bud In The State We Don’t Care For Dime A Few Spills” - Stanley

[@Trainhead23]

About the name Siete is seven in spanish, so when records say Siete, they probably ment Number seven

[@lukechristmas3951]

I think this one should've been saved for October but I still enjoyed hearing about Siete's "temperament." Truth be told, I was expecting to hear something about the lumberjacks gossiping that some local superstition or evil spirit of the forests taking possession of Siete. Nonetheless, I don't doubt the misfortunes tied to Siete and from an image taken from Google Maps, ladders have been fixed onto Siete allowing people to climb on the pilot and boiler.

[@Momo_Kawashima]

Siete sure is cocky. "Yeah, I cause lots of trouble cause I can, the company loves me. Now put me back on the rails, workers."

[@dirtbikegary8250]

I think this is just a result of using a mallet engine on unmaintained tracks and a lack of maintenance in general

[@neilsonthegreat]

Philippines mentioned!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bor3549]

It's called "Live Steam" for a reason.

[@alicehodges9964]

Ok Every One in The Comments Have Gone Mad Thay All Think Vehicles Are Alive 🤦‍♀️ Most Vehicles Are Made Of Mettle And Mettle Can't Breathe On Order For Something To Breathe You Need Lungs And in Order For Something To Be Alive You Need A Heart A Brain A Stoomch Kidneys Liver Do Vehicles Have That? How Are Vehicles Alive? Mabe If I Saw A Diagram Of Anything In A Vehicle That Act Like Orgens We Have Mabe

[@lukethegeneralelectrice60p80]

UY PILIPINS! PILIPINS! WOOOOO

[@johndavidson3424]

0:04 I have this feeling for steam engines too, maybe cause it uses water :- known as a living element by some superstitions.

[@ceciliavazquez4946]

Siete is pronounced (See-e-te) not (she-te) Anyways,amazing vid

[@katho8472]

And btw, "Siete" actually means "seven" in Tagalog and in Spanish, on which about 50% of Tagalog, one of the languages of the Phillipines is based on... Though the pronaunciation "shed-tay" in Tagalog is a little different than the original "see_ya-ta" in Spanish. (Please, everyone who speaks Spanish: This is the closest I could get with English rhymes to give an idea of the sounds...)

[@ThePlecoPal]

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