The Potential Aftermath Of A Footballer Coming Out As LGBTQ+? | Football's Coming Out | Episode 4

In the last episode in the series, we delve into the early moments after the player walks out on to the pitch for the first time as their true authentic self.
Footballers face abuse everyday. Whether it's on social media or chants from the crowds, teams would need to come together both on and off the field to support their fellow players.
Will a player ever be confident enough to come out? We hope so.
Episode 4 of 4-part Football's Coming Out series. Full series available here: • Football's Coming Out
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[@SkepticalTeacher]

The chanting thing: people forget how young players are, a lot of them are still teenagers, they don't have the life skills or experience to handle this kind of public scrutiny. Think back to all the stupid stuff you did and said when you were 19, and now imagine that there's a permanent record of it online! And imagine being 19 and having thousands of people chanting disgusting things at you... it's hard...

[@Maximillian-Tiberius-Rex]

I don't see in foreseeable future a player coming out at the elite level while the crowds are as they are i think anyone caught shouting homophobic abuse should be banned from all football grounds for life

[@monsiursnowman66]

I wonder how the owners of Man City and Newcastle would react to one of their players coming out ? Just a thought

[@aintnoplum]

They would be calling for their heads

[@wagwanbennydj6003]

Most people would be like its the atmosphere... its not that's not what it should be about... you should be there to enjoy the game!

[@wessexfox5197]

How to deal with fan abuse from the crowds: Easy, welcome their hate. FDR said a great quote along the lines of “they are unanimous in their hatred for me and I welcome their hatred”. Have that attitude, focus on the pitch, players and ball and ignore it. If you respond to them you give them exactly what they want which is attention. Silence and mild kindness to even your most vile and vitriolic enemies is the ultimate form of humility, honour and grace and will earn you nothing but respect even from your enemies.

[@nutcracker2916]

Tell you what . Maybe some of those so called fans, should try to be better human beings. And concentrate on cheering their team on.

[@wessexfox5197]

@@nutcracker2916 nice idea but sadly that’s not how the real world works and you’ll always get nasty people.

[@mm-cv9bn]

I could not care a jot if fan’s where questioning my lifestyle,for the money that they are on if that’s me,I would laugh at them and also whatever happened to the sticks and stones argument, and there is a wider agenda with this just now that free speech,no matter how hateful,is,at the end of the day is just words,everything you look at nowadays is don’t say this and don’t say that, it’s to curtail our rights as individuals no matter if one’s an idiot out of ten,sneaky suspicion there is an obvious agenda behind this as it’s everywhere everyday.

[@joebloggs5420]

I don’t know you as a person but I’d like to think you can understand that words can affect people differently. You might be able to brush it off but others may struggle with it. Especially if they suffer with certain mental health issues, as words can deeply impact how one feels about themselves.

[@absbee98]

This shouldn't be happening in this day and age

[@Lyndanet]

5:20 😥

[@geopoliticsnerd213]

This channel is so cool love ur content keep up the good work you good humans ❤️

[@DigitalDaffodil]

Who? Channel 4 hahaha

[@geopoliticsnerd213]

@@DigitalDaffodil and what about it

[@vinnydurham8964]

If a Premier league comes out he would lauded by the club the league and the media. He'll probably get some flack from fans but nothing major.

[@DigitalDaffodil]

“Nothing major” scaring someone emotionally for life is probably nothing aye

[@vinnydurham8964]

@@DigitalDaffodil all footballers get flack of some sort. It's just words. If it's life threatening that's obviously a different matter.

[@TommyG92]

Fact of the matter is you can’t say anything without someone being offended nowadays.

[@DigitalDaffodil]

No you can’t say anything, you are absolutely right

[@ashleyw6728]

U can, u jsut can't say anything stupid

[@TommyG92]

@@ashleyw6728 What one deems a stupid comment another may think is harmless words. The quicker the world realises we can educate people more but there will always be people who say stuff we don’t like…the more we can move forward stronger. Not the opposite by censoring everyone. They creating a weak human race. People upset about a song hurting their feelings then using/supporting social media platforms…the biggest hate spreaders in the world. The ones contributing to the divide. Who are really the stupid ones 👀

[@mm-cv9bn]

@@TommyG92 Spot on,rock on Tommy.😁

[@johnrose464]

The only way we are going to get rid of homophobia hatred bigotry and racism from the game if the decent fans stand up and get rid of the nasty fans unfortunately you don't see many fans in the stands calling out if you want to kick it out the fans have to come together

[@LLE08071635]

My father stood up to fans at Cardiff to tell them to stop swearing and being racist cause me and my brother was there and we were kids . No one else had the bottle to say anything . So these same people that moan and complain are the same reason this happens because no one stands up to stop it and when someone brave enough does they’re in a 50 on 1 situation and no one ( the liberals ) help in the actual moment they talk big like in this video but never say anything in the actual situation.

[@nutcracker2916]

Not surprising about the chelsea fan being banned for 3 years over homophobic abuse. As there's an issue there as Chelsea's Chelsea Pride will tell you. As they received homophobic comments indirectly from their then Chair of the Chelsea supporters Group. David Johnstone. Who also edits the Chelsea Fanzine. He still indirectly harasses Athletic Journalist Dan Levene. Just because some Chelsea fans complained to him about this homophobe. And Dan, was brave enough to challenge him.

[@silenusut]

Within a few months Jake Daniels came out

[@hmq9052]

Did Ian Holloway just come out?

[@DigitalDaffodil]

No, of course he didn’t

[@derrickbuckley2503]

Hahaha

[@mattym2542]

🤣🤣🤣

[@daryledwards90]

Mindfulness makes no sense in this context. What were the filmmakers doing? They've made him look a right rodney plonker. Unless he's critiquing mindfulness as a concept i.e. minfulness practitioners are idiots. Perhaps he's dismissing football fans ability to practise mindfulness i.e. they're not mindfulness geniuses. Maybe I'm over thinking this. To make a long story short...too late! Who knows? Who cares?

[@Bermanater1]

Instead of trying to fight homophobia, racism and sexism, why don't they focus on stopping all forms of discrimination

[@getshrekd_7825]

Those are the biggest ways people are getting discriminated ...

[@Bermanater1]

@@getshrekd_7825 I've heard and seen more abuse of disabilities than about LGBTQ+ or gender

[@getshrekd_7825]

@@Bermanater1 That may be true for you but I have heard plenty more people make homophobic slurs

[@Bermanater1]

@@getshrekd_7825 homophobia is dealt with but discrimination against disability goes unchallenged is sometimes encouraged just look what happened to disabled people during covid and what the NHS were doing

[@Underground247]

I think it’s funny because half the people talking don’t believe what there saying.

[@joshdobson4685]

Is it still homophobic abuse if the person on the receiving end isn't gay?

[@ece2178]

It’s not

[@DigitalDaffodil]

Of course it is

[@MichaelJ44]

@@DigitalDaffodil So calling a kettle a bottle is now wrong? When does this fantastic logic of yours come to a halt?

[@renegayed6414]

Yes, if your using slurs, no matter who it's directed at gay or straight, it's a slur and shouldn't be used. It's like saying the n word if you're white.

[@renegayed6414]

@@MichaelJ44 a bottle and kettle are two totally different things even if they both store water. This fantastic knowledge is that slurs shouldn't be used no matter if you're referring to a gay or straight person.

[@connor-craigsellars4777]

Touching documentary about Ashley Cole

[@DigitalDaffodil]

How stupid

[@MrAhmes2001]

soon you won't be able to boo at a game 🤦‍♂️

[@hbwestham]

Did Bamford say mindfulness

[@mikemcmanus7088]

Yes, I noticed that too. I don't think he understands the meaning of the word as he used it in the wrong context.

[@DigitalDaffodil]

On the term “mindfulness” it’s being too wrapped up to notice how your actions / words can harm someone

[@george5464]

Yeah he deffo doesn’t understand the word lol

[@DigitalDaffodil]

@@george5464 he used the word perfectly Tbh, given he got 5 A*, can speak 4 languages and turned down a place at Harvard to play football, I reckon he would have a pretty good idea on what the word means and how to use it

[@DigitalDaffodil]

@@mikemcmanus7088 he used the word perfectly Tbh, given he got 5 A*, can speak 4 languages and turned down a place at Harvard to play football, I reckon he would have a pretty good idea on what the word means and how to use it

[@singalexsong]

How would it work with somebody coming out as Transgender then? Would we then have a female playing in the male game?

[@renegayed6414]

I don't think it would work like that. If they come out as transgender mtf then they are a female and should be moved to a female football team, the same goes for a ftm transgender.

[@singalexsong]

@@renegayed6414 does that seem fair? What’s the whole point of segregating genders in the first place? If Messi identifies as a woman tomorrow is it fair if he plays against women?

[@singalexsong]

@@renegayed6414 also I’m making the point that Trans has nothing to do with sexuality, so it is obviously a political decision to include it in LGB campaigns.

[@BlackCatNinja]

@@renegayed6414 - no mtf transpeople should not be moved to a women's football team! They're still male biologically and so will have the strength/bone density of a man due to the advantage of having testosterone transform their bodies. They should get their own teams

[@ashleyw6728]

@@singalexsong that's not how being transgender works

[@ryanbetrand4600]

Is Bamford gay?

[@DigitalDaffodil]

Why?

[@fudgeslice5462]

Yeah

[@DigitalDaffodil]

@@fudgeslice5462 like you would know hahah

[@bullhuss]

hope it isn’t

[@TomPeers180]

Well as I am a openly gay footballer I don’t understand what stops people

[@liamthomson1380]

It’s part of the game it will never be iradicated

[@samcampbell2944]

Nob

[@davidmorgan4541]

I don’t understand the need to come out to fans or the media 🤷🏼‍♂️ Team mates maybe depending on the relationships you have in the dressing room but it’s nobody else’s business. The abuse is one thing but being made a poster boy for an entire community in the largest sport in the world is a completely other kettle of fish especially in leagues like the premier league where the whole world is watching.

[@gunnyo50]

Exactly, there no need for a professional premier league player to come out as a homosexual. Football in a lot of countries especially in the UK is intense, fanatical, traditional followings. I don't won't any player at any team coming out as gay as that will be a major distraction for both the player and his club he plays for. These guys want to push for something that realistically isn't going to bode well for any footballer's career.

[@davidmorgan4541]

@@gunnyo50 Don’t get me wrong it’s their choice but like you say it adds unneeded attention and distractions from the media and everyone else not only on the player but on the team I don’t think any player would want to come out for that reason as well as many others. A lot of people seem to think it’s abuse that people don’t wanna come out but in my experience it’s the fact that it’s not something you ever find the need to declare to everyone 😅

[@MichaelJ44]

Exactly. Why do I need to know if a footballer likes Sucking male genitals? More importantly, why is this a controversial opinion?

[@davidmorgan4541]

@@MichaelJ44 That’s not the reason for me if people don’t wanna hear about that stuff that’s fair enough But for me it’s got nothing to do with sexuality I don’t really care to hear about a straight Footballers love life lol. That kind of stuff has nothing to do with Football no matter of what the sexual preference is and I think it ruins it a bit as well.

[@davidmorgan4541]

@Clemente In my opinion none of it belongs in Football why does it? It’s none of our business and I also think it would be distracting because we’ve made such a fuss about sexuality that everyone seems to think they have to have an opinion on it. Let me ask you this why do you want to know the sexuality and personal life of a player? I personally don’t see any interest in it whatsoever and I can’t honestly think why someone would find it interesting or relevant to Football.

[@lifes2short701]

That Chelsea rentboy chant Is jokes

[@MMAFan1984]

The first guy to come out will be an icon like Bob marley if they owned it

[@jambutty4530]

A bunch of grown man kicking a ball on a field.. who would of guessed 😂

[@Gatsu289]

Bet youre on minimum wage

[@DigitalDaffodil]

@@Gatsu289 *you’re

[@Gatsu289]

@@DigitalDaffodil Touched a nerve?

[@DigitalDaffodil]

@@Gatsu289 just correcting you. Fighting the good fight.

[@Gatsu289]

@@DigitalDaffodil You spend time correcting people on KZbin? Yikes that is depressing

[@Lost_In_House]

Wait Bamford's gay?

[@tofutitties4594]

yes, you have to be gay to support LGBT..

[@dianebrown488]

British football can't handle black players STILL, so how they couldn't handle an alphabet person... Same way.

[@TashiBumz]

Legend has it.. first five comments get 1k likes 🤨

[@billyc2010]

You mean gay?

[@DigitalDaffodil]

What do you think the G stands for?

[@renegayed6414]

Lgbtq+ is being used as an umbrella term, the players could also be bi or trans (possibly even lesbian), not just gay.

[@aintnoplum]

Getting paid thousands get on with it

[@MrAhmes2001]

football is not for everyone.... stick to watching Rude Paul and love island

[@DigitalDaffodil]

This doesn’t make any sense What do those shows have to do with football? If you like football you like football

[@were-all-human9427]

.. just play football... the rest is just bollocks