What If A Premier League Footballer Comes Out As LGBTQ+? | Football's Coming Out | Full Documentary

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Channel 4 Sport

Channel 4 Sport

2 жыл бұрын

This groundbreaking new documentary Football’s Coming Out asks why there are currently no openly LGBTQ+ footballers playing at the highest level of the men’s game in England. With Joleon Lescott, Patrick Bamford, Amal Fashanu, Ian Holloway and many more, we explore what would happen when a Premier League star were to publicly come out.
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@stearmy76
@stearmy76 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Ian Holloway. Always speaks his mind and is a genuine guy
@johncarrick916
@johncarrick916 2 жыл бұрын
Leicester fans have a different view... 😂
@GreenSharder
@GreenSharder 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t really seem entirely genuine, seems very stilted when he’s talking at certain points like about calling a player a bully. That interaction didn’t happen like that, players aren’t children and that isn’t how people in football talk. If you want to have these discussion, you’ve gotta be completely honest and that isn’t.
@davidharper5578
@davidharper5578 2 жыл бұрын
The video could of ended after his opening two seconds 😂
@wesleylamb7782
@wesleylamb7782 2 жыл бұрын
Genuine guy or closet job
@bracketsthepolicefan
@bracketsthepolicefan 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care what your sexuality is, I just want you to go on the pitch and play your best
@samuelstevens248
@samuelstevens248 Ай бұрын
That's not the issue, the issue is why hide being who you are 😊
@Luisle9
@Luisle9 Жыл бұрын
So, if everybody is so nice, supportive and understanding.. why is so hard to come out in football?
@tgoslin7
@tgoslin7 2 жыл бұрын
Just picturing a Newcastle player trying to explain his homosexuality to the Saudi owners… don’t think they’ll take too nicely to it tbh. Support the cause tho.
@b35941
@b35941 2 жыл бұрын
facts
@vangledosh
@vangledosh 2 жыл бұрын
Tough fucking shit for them. Time for them to grow the fuck up and maybe start considering basic humanitarian rights.
@wesleylamb7782
@wesleylamb7782 2 жыл бұрын
@@vangledosh and if they pick not to buy a player based on being bent. It's up to them you can't force anyone to not use words or do anything they don't want to.
@tomexists7056
@tomexists7056 2 жыл бұрын
@@wesleylamb7782 Except if they do that they’re discriminating against someone on the basis of them being gay which is quite literally the definition of homophobia
@wesleylamb7782
@wesleylamb7782 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomexists7056 have that one out with the world's Muslim population mate. And they don't have to publicly state why they don't employ gas men but I'm just saying they can do that behind the scenes. Plus you can't force someone to think a certain way or pay for a item they don't want.
@craigm4459
@craigm4459 2 жыл бұрын
Justin's legacy needs to be bigger, what a fucking inspirational person
@JGZ.
@JGZ. 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah noncing should be known
@att6484
@att6484 2 жыл бұрын
@@JGZ. the guy he slept with was 17, above the legal age of consent in Maryland which is and was 16 and also above the legal age of consent in the UK. He wasn’t alleged to have nonced anybody, the 17 year old afraid of getting in trouble as gay sex was illegal in Maryland, and decided to pin the blame on Fashanu. Before you chat shit actually know what your talking about.
@gordonfleming1269
@gordonfleming1269 2 жыл бұрын
What pisses me off is that nobody seems to remember what a great player Justin Fashanu was.
@craigm4459
@craigm4459 2 жыл бұрын
@@JGZ. tell me more bro
@craigm4459
@craigm4459 2 жыл бұрын
just did some research myself actually, the more you know!
@menelikroadbikeskingofking2341
@menelikroadbikeskingofking2341 2 жыл бұрын
Fashanu was outed by local newspaper for visiting a famous Nottingham gay bar called part two.....it wasn't Brian Clough who outed him....he was deeply unpopular amongst local immigrants who were mainly from Jamaica....
@Predatorsnightmare
@Predatorsnightmare 2 жыл бұрын
Footballers 100% should be able to come out however the problem is I can easily see it getting out of hand to show support to them.
@zilla5466
@zilla5466 2 жыл бұрын
Great documentary. Shout out to C4 👏
@GreenSharder
@GreenSharder 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but so much of this doesn’t ring true. It isn’t honest enough. If you want to confront it head on, you can’t have people going “well you know we’d support them, we’d all support them, anyone that wouldn’t wouldn’t be welcome in the team”, it doesn’t feel honest at all. Everyone here is acting like the problem isn’t with them or the group they stand with, we know managers wouldn’t be completely supportive Ian, we know footballers and captains wouldn’t be completely supportive Bamford, players aren’t doing that for a reason, I mean are you really telling me no gay players have gone through the changing rooms in either of their clubs, and just from the way they’re talking you can tell neither of them have dealt with this, and there are reasons for that. This is lip service to a long standing issue that you can’t confront by going “there’s no problem with me”. If you want to confront this properly, you have to get complete honesty, and this isn’t it.
@vashnanerada5373
@vashnanerada5373 2 жыл бұрын
Any man or women who shouting abuse towards a gay person Is so insecure in there own sexaulity that they are threatened by others . Can I ask how long you have been gay for ?? And what is this real honesty you talk about
@GreenSharder
@GreenSharder 2 жыл бұрын
@@vashnanerada5373 you’re on one. I’m not shouting abuse, I’m criticising the video not being gay. and if you’re trying to use being gay as an insult, you’re the bigger problem. I literally do not care if someone else is gay or even if I am. Get out mate.
@vashnanerada5373
@vashnanerada5373 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreenSharder didn't say you was shouting abuse
@GreenSharder
@GreenSharder 2 жыл бұрын
@@vashnanerada5373 “any man shouting abuse is insecure in their sexuality” “How long you been gay for” stop talking bollocks mate, nobody’s stupid here.
@vashnanerada5373
@vashnanerada5373 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreenSharder and yet you still won't answer the questions
@gashscumkar6909
@gashscumkar6909 2 жыл бұрын
Justin's own brother John disowned him so don't give me this rubbish from his neice
@Magicalfluidprocess
@Magicalfluidprocess 2 жыл бұрын
Football is an abstract noun it is an impossibility for football to have an opinion
@Predatorsnightmare
@Predatorsnightmare 2 жыл бұрын
Lol fact my guy
@LiamGervaise
@LiamGervaise 5 ай бұрын
its to do with the culture not hard to understand
@Magicalfluidprocess
@Magicalfluidprocess 5 ай бұрын
@@LiamGervaise ironically you have not understood my point , which is perfectly accurate and correct
@LiamGervaise
@LiamGervaise 5 ай бұрын
@@Magicalfluidprocess yes it’s not ironic I understand what you are saying I’m explaining to you what they mean
@Magicalfluidprocess
@Magicalfluidprocess 5 ай бұрын
@@LiamGervaise , you say it’s “ not hard to understand “ i would infer that as a sarcastic dig , ? You response replaces the abstract noun football with another abstract noun culture , this is fictional language as only people can have intentions and opinions If the guy at the start of the vid was being accurate and honest he would say “ some people I have met who happen to work in football are homophonic , but this doesn’t have the same level of drama , and I would (controversially) speculate that it wouldn’t trigger the same level of self pity , a more accurate language is less inflammatory
@weknowwhatweare7600
@weknowwhatweare7600 2 жыл бұрын
I think Patrick wants to tell us something he shouldn’t be ashamed it’s ok Patrick
@ashleyw6728
@ashleyw6728 2 жыл бұрын
This video only needs to be about 5 seconds long... Yes
@jamesparkerone
@jamesparkerone 2 жыл бұрын
Reight boy Holloway. Funny as fuck on happy hour podcast
@liamcollinson5695
@liamcollinson5695 2 жыл бұрын
With the way big brands advertise today they would have a field day with a openly gay player
@Predatorsnightmare
@Predatorsnightmare 2 жыл бұрын
Facts Look at that A- League player who came out gay got retweeted by everyone and got a fifa card. I think PR teams will start using this
@dafyddcoleman4413
@dafyddcoleman4413 2 жыл бұрын
Nigel Owens and Gareth Thomas are two perfect examples of gay men in sport, next to universal acceptance because everyone knew they were top blokes. It's sad that players feel this way, but I don't think it would be a huge deal. Especially not in England, for all the bad England have always been a big voice in the progressive movement.
@Manchestergirl54
@Manchestergirl54 2 жыл бұрын
Great Documentary.
@Yorkshireman5
@Yorkshireman5 2 жыл бұрын
Of course is it but unfortunately it isn't going to stop.
@freshmemes8664
@freshmemes8664 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly these comments are fucking disgusting just so prejudice I’m sorry if anyone was offended by any of these comments looking through. But 9:32-9:35 in this context is hilarious, “makes people want to come”
@ThEtDa94
@ThEtDa94 2 ай бұрын
Telford smuggling two big pumpkins in those shorts! 3:56
@dlbia9569
@dlbia9569 Ай бұрын
As the joker would say "very poor choice of words" from the commentator 😂😂😂 at 1:13
@arsenaltruckerify
@arsenaltruckerify 2 жыл бұрын
I think only way it would be players starting out u23 or younger being open from day one then it would become normal or if more players come out after retirement but probably worried career after would be screwed anyway good luck to you from a straight man 👍
@liquidzuel2321
@liquidzuel2321 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the woman's game is probably majority lesbo so it's not the same.
@fUNNY-do6rb
@fUNNY-do6rb 2 жыл бұрын
womens football is just a lesbain meet up group since most gay clubs are gay men
@samuelstevens248
@samuelstevens248 Ай бұрын
Even though most of the women are married to men with kids 🤦‍♂️. What a stupid stereotype
@ZeroTolerance92
@ZeroTolerance92 2 жыл бұрын
Football is not homophobic, there are people in football who are homophobic and you’ll always get awful “fans”, but those people don’t speak on behalf of football or indeed any other sport.
@JamieJamie2o2
@JamieJamie2o2 2 жыл бұрын
So much respect for Channel 4 for doing this! ❤️ The support is needed for both sexuality and nationality. It's very important to correct bad behaviour towards these issues, especially when it comes to the younger generation.
@Epi-mu
@Epi-mu 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Channel 4 Sports, for showing this sadly needed Documentary. Intolerance and Bullying over someone's sexuality has to fade into the shadows of history. There needs to be more Programs pointing at the discretions Against any individual in our communities. ☯️🙏🏼☮️
@popaoctavian1795
@popaoctavian1795 2 жыл бұрын
Ah shut up ....gay people have it really good these days ....better then ever ...vast majority of people don't have a problem with them
@JamTaylor69
@JamTaylor69 2 жыл бұрын
@@popaoctavian1795 ‘I’m alright jack’
@daftwod
@daftwod 2 жыл бұрын
People like you have invited religious fundamentalists to share our home under the guise of diversity. They wont be changing their views because channel fucking 4 made a documentary.
@tombullivant544
@tombullivant544 2 жыл бұрын
Tell it to the Saudi’s that own the teams 😂
@msdd7610
@msdd7610 2 жыл бұрын
@@popaoctavian1795 Gays have it better than before yes, but it’s still a thing with a lot of prejudice attached.
@angusmctwangstick4079
@angusmctwangstick4079 2 жыл бұрын
Football is a game. It doesn't make judgements it has no thought and no emotion. The game is not the problem.
@darrenpinnock6651
@darrenpinnock6651 2 жыл бұрын
People are homophobic not football, just like racism . People throw insults at all who play football .
@Justin-qi7ks
@Justin-qi7ks 2 жыл бұрын
If we actually see people's hearts and minds deep down people feel uncomfortable. If you got to lie to feel comfortable I can't accept that. .A lie is a lie regardless.
@lovelife4110
@lovelife4110 2 жыл бұрын
Football stands contain many many people that are ist everything.Been going to footy for 4 decades.I don't like being judged so why should I judge others.
@86Smally
@86Smally 2 жыл бұрын
They have what are called “beards” which are fake girlfriends it’s usually a another celebrity but a female who agrees to be the “beard” as it raises their own profile. Definitely one playing in the prem league with a beard girlfriend That’s a big clue…………….
@dondamon4669
@dondamon4669 2 жыл бұрын
Of course it is!
@paddy1144
@paddy1144 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares it’s a shit game with overpaid employees
@CoopDogg90
@CoopDogg90 2 жыл бұрын
So it should be
@svenbaxter7098
@svenbaxter7098 2 жыл бұрын
Why are people so obsessed about hommosexuality ? It's not like they're oppressed or aren't represented,you'd think most of the population was gay
@Predatorsnightmare
@Predatorsnightmare 2 жыл бұрын
Leftist agenda everybody is oppressed and if your not oppressed your privileged and should do everything in your power to protect the oppressed even if they don’t exist
@canny_linguist
@canny_linguist 2 жыл бұрын
Just remind me when heterosexuality has ever been illegal?
@Predatorsnightmare
@Predatorsnightmare 2 жыл бұрын
@@canny_linguist how is that relevant heterosexuality is our normal form you gonna tell me that we’re naturally gay?
@ethandalton6480
@ethandalton6480 2 жыл бұрын
@@Predatorsnightmare yes, we are.
@maverick4177
@maverick4177 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t see it myself, those footballers love big houses
@andyzillla4133
@andyzillla4133 2 жыл бұрын
Who gives a shit how someone lives their lives if they are happy what they do doesn't affect your life even if you don't agree with it leave them be.
@ryancummins8067
@ryancummins8067 2 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from English football fans?
@brianhannon3253
@brianhannon3253 2 жыл бұрын
How many footballers have been banned recently for homophobic abuse on and off the pitch might open your eyes to who they are and it was never reported on sky news or the BBC
@Tow131
@Tow131 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you have to tell anyone anything. Keep it to yourself
@ashleyw6728
@ashleyw6728 2 жыл бұрын
Because relationships are public... From your comment I assume u have never been in one
@Tow131
@Tow131 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyw6728 i would keep my personnel business private
@ashleyw6728
@ashleyw6728 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tow131 so if u have a partner u never go in public with them?
@Tow131
@Tow131 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyw6728 yes I would but I wouldn’t be sharing my shit on the net. If I go in public I’ll blend in easily like every other couple.Ehen you share stuff on social media and the net it attracts more eyes
@ashleyw6728
@ashleyw6728 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tow131 aye yes because popular footballers can just blend in...
@OlpyColpy
@OlpyColpy 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see why it has to be announced. Who actually cares if someone sticks their member in another man/woman/other. Surely we should judge someone based on their footballing ability not on what hole is being plugged.
@Newcastlecraze
@Newcastlecraze 2 жыл бұрын
You just loose all credibility when you turn it into sex, it’s not just about that! These players speak to their team mates outside of football, just like you’d come out to your friends or workplace, is the same as coming out to a football team. You may actually find that person plays better as they have lifted a burden of their chest and feel like they can play more freely without having the pressure of having to have that coming out conversation
@gritagon2114
@gritagon2114 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is a lot of people actually do care, unless you've lived under a rock, youd know that
@heekamalokilo7194
@heekamalokilo7194 2 жыл бұрын
When a footballer comes out, they're not asking you to judge them based on their sexuality. They're trying to stop hiding who they are on their own terms (rather than being outed by the media). They're also trying to create a safe space for other closeted players and show them that they needn't worry about the stigma (and there IS stigma). There's still homophobia. Visibility and representation are key to the acceptance of minorities.
@utv5490
@utv5490 2 жыл бұрын
What do you want? A big watch on your wrist or to be clever?? Errrrrrrrrr...........
@kirineloch9292
@kirineloch9292 2 жыл бұрын
You can't remove the prevailing societal attitude from football, because footballers are part of society , simple.
@ANGSNM
@ANGSNM 2 жыл бұрын
Are we even meant to be social creatures... Everyone in this world just jumps on bandwagons because they don't have a mind of their own to tell em what to do :/
@DevilishBeaver0
@DevilishBeaver0 2 жыл бұрын
@@ANGSNM well said
@ANGSNM
@ANGSNM 2 жыл бұрын
@@DevilishBeaver0 and sad af
@kirineloch9292
@kirineloch9292 2 жыл бұрын
@@ANGSNM right, they join the bandwagon because we are social creatures , for inclusion.
@msdd7610
@msdd7610 2 жыл бұрын
@@kirineloch9292 that’s a good thing
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 2 жыл бұрын
No there isn't that many gays at the top that's just a lie.
@heekamalokilo7194
@heekamalokilo7194 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know? And how many do you think there are?
@LiamGervaise
@LiamGervaise 5 ай бұрын
no there's loads lmao
@doctorkhumalo7730
@doctorkhumalo7730 2 жыл бұрын
There are 💯 gay players at the top level, I don't agree that they are not being themselves, just because they are not going public with their sexual orientation, it's just nobody's business, whatever their reasons are for choosing not to come out, those are their reasons and it's not up to anyone to assume that they are living a lie.
@daftwod
@daftwod 2 жыл бұрын
Is homosexuality footballphobic though?
@lewibops
@lewibops 2 жыл бұрын
No
@MacauleyOliver
@MacauleyOliver 2 жыл бұрын
Quite obviously not otherwise there wouldn’t be homosexuals playing football.
@GreenSharder
@GreenSharder 2 жыл бұрын
@@MacauleyOliver We kind of don’t know that there are many really. Less openly gay than in larger society, and you can’t prove that there are closeted gays. Even though it’s a joke, it could be that gay people and gay culture just don’t share an interest in football as much as straight people do. I definitely know a lot more gay people than straight people that openly hate football.
@MacauleyOliver
@MacauleyOliver 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreenSharder if you include straight women in that then the numbers are probably far closer.
@GreenSharder
@GreenSharder 2 жыл бұрын
@@MacauleyOliver No actually on average from what I’ve seen women tend to share more of an interest in football than gay men too. But you’d also be muddying the waters for the sake of making it appear that gay men are more interested than they are if you were to add women into the equation.
@richardneedham13
@richardneedham13 2 жыл бұрын
How this conversation truly goes in 2022 "I'm gay!" "Good for you, nobody cares"
@ashleyw6728
@ashleyw6728 2 жыл бұрын
It's just not tho is it
@maz2483
@maz2483 Жыл бұрын
If only. There are still dickheads out there.
@beng197833
@beng197833 2 жыл бұрын
Why does anyone "need to come out" just so we have something to talk about.. who fucking cares
@jawaadchoudray8990
@jawaadchoudray8990 2 жыл бұрын
They only need to come out that tunnel and perform on the pitch nothing more nothing less
@beng197833
@beng197833 2 жыл бұрын
@@jawaadchoudray8990 100% 👍
@msdd7610
@msdd7610 2 жыл бұрын
Ig there’s gay footballers who have to hide their relationships so the paparazzi won’t out them, cause the truth is that many footballers, supporters and owners don’t just have the pure “just get out and win” attitudes.
@beng197833
@beng197833 2 жыл бұрын
@@msdd7610 but who's business is it to know the private life of anybody on a football pitch or off it for that matter? My point is, why does everything have a label.. gay, straight, black, white, Asian? All I see is a person and if that person is nice to me I'm nice back. Until we stop labeling we won't move forward 🤷‍♂️
@msdd7610
@msdd7610 2 жыл бұрын
@@beng197833 Sadly many people do care, that’s why many feel uncomfortable being open.
@ghulamsarwar687
@ghulamsarwar687 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@benbeasant3443
@benbeasant3443 2 жыл бұрын
Is Joleon gay?
@mikewest1542
@mikewest1542 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares tbfh !
@moose6282
@moose6282 2 жыл бұрын
As in is football gay yes ...
@leekam4606
@leekam4606 2 жыл бұрын
Holloway top man
@ash-hy4tf
@ash-hy4tf 2 жыл бұрын
It's called freedom of speech
@andyzillla4133
@andyzillla4133 2 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between freedom of speech and hate speech. Everything seems to be hate speech these days though that's the main issue
@att6484
@att6484 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t get free speech in a football ground. Are you dumb? It’s not applicable if a club wants to ban you for being homophobic that is their right and a good thing.
@tenderloinasssteaks485
@tenderloinasssteaks485 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly sad. As an American, we got brutal fans across all sports but nothing like European Football. You have racial chants, blogs & people throwing crap like bananas at black players these days; which is incredibly disappointing.
@thisisstupid6524
@thisisstupid6524 2 жыл бұрын
No has the world gone made ? Yes it has and this gender bias crap is now biased against men 😂😂
@heekamalokilo7194
@heekamalokilo7194 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please elaborate?
@canny_linguist
@canny_linguist 2 жыл бұрын
Openly gay footballers is an attack on men okay take your pills
@rogermitchell4894
@rogermitchell4894 2 жыл бұрын
Football fans inthe uk are not ready Backwards af
@dotkoi3233
@dotkoi3233 2 жыл бұрын
You ask me footballs for puffs ..
@tangomango6365
@tangomango6365 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with being a gay, but films like this are dangerous because it could make a young kid think he is a gay when he is not.
@Abdullahhhhh7
@Abdullahhhhh7 2 жыл бұрын
There is something wrong
@dalemcintosh1865
@dalemcintosh1865 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up!!!
@JamieJamie2o2
@JamieJamie2o2 2 жыл бұрын
This is a typical mix of truth and lies. The truth being "there is nothing wrong with being a gay," of course not. The lie is in the part where you say it's "dangerous because it could make a young kid think he is gay when he is not." There is nothing dangerous in thinking you could possibly be gay. Somebody else's actions towards someone who is gay, can be dangerous. Life is literally about making choices no matter the age or situation, we do it every single day whether we want to or not.
@gentlemendontspit7831
@gentlemendontspit7831 2 жыл бұрын
No. What a ridiculous thing to write.
@canny_linguist
@canny_linguist 2 жыл бұрын
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@pablodavies414
@pablodavies414 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine being in Kiev and having a real issue . That being said I agree totally ...... but in the UK really qe are rhe most tolerant of anything in life ......
@gaiopescatore
@gaiopescatore 2 жыл бұрын
It would be very surprising if there were any openly LGBTQ+ footballers playing at the highest level of the men’s game in England, since there is no such thing as an LGBTQ+ footballer - or an LGBTQ+ anyone else. That ridiculous, illogical initialism does not denote any genuine category of persons.
@mrjibrhanjamalkhan2144
@mrjibrhanjamalkhan2144 2 жыл бұрын
What does sexuality have to do with football other than wanting attention I think they should be whipped problem is they're probably going to enjoy it
@positivevibesrfc
@positivevibesrfc 2 жыл бұрын
Whether I agree or not with anyone's life choices, at the end of the day everyone deserves the right to live and love in peace, free from fear of attack, verbally or physically as long as they aren't hurting anyone in my opinion.
@stewroo
@stewroo 2 жыл бұрын
Haha... "choice".
@JM-gw7he
@JM-gw7he 2 жыл бұрын
It's shit like this that's causing the problems. You think you're being kind and humanitarian but by using the words "life choices" you've just shown yourself up - people have no say, choice or decision in their sexuality. We don't live in an rpg game where we customize our characters. We are born
@DevilishBeaver0
@DevilishBeaver0 2 жыл бұрын
I agree however being genuinely gay isn't a choice it's genetic.
@lee8821c
@lee8821c 2 жыл бұрын
My life choices are going to the pub after work, hanging out with mates, sometimes chilling playing PlayStation and watching tv, my life choice isn’t being gay that’s something I didn’t choose to be that’s just who I am not my life choices 🙄
@positivevibesrfc
@positivevibesrfc 2 жыл бұрын
@@JM-gw7he You are being nit picky over what I am saying. I was just meaning the way people live their lives, everyone has choice in life. I understand that others don't choose the way they are, but they choose how they live and who with. I am free not to like or like anything, that is my right. What is not my right is to bully, attack verbally or hurt others physically. Everyone deserves to live in peace, and I wasn't just talking about sexuality, I was speaking in general. My belief is no matter how people live via choice, or indirect albeit non or semi choice they deserve basic respect, inclusion and decency. What would you rather someone decent enough to keep their disagreements and feelings to themselves, who doesn't cause others problems and lives in peace or someone who ostracizes others for not liking what they do? Oh and btw it's shit like this that's causing the problem you say. Well newsflash not everyone is gay and understands why others are, newsflash that is completely ok. I am not attacking anyone over their sexuality, hurting anyone physically either. I have no interest in who any footballer sleeps with. Whether Gay, straight or whatever else, I say that because there seems to be many other categories now. I accept and respect that person and if like any player they do well for my team I will love and support them, same as the rest of the team. So no you are wrong, I am not the problem.
@tiffa01
@tiffa01 2 жыл бұрын
Id never pick up the soap in the changing room showers
@hadezz371
@hadezz371 2 жыл бұрын
Hell nah 😂
@tiffa01
@tiffa01 2 жыл бұрын
@@hadezz371 there was a player called bent aswell
@mattb6704
@mattb6704 Жыл бұрын
You’d be first in there you little queen
@JGZ.
@JGZ. 2 жыл бұрын
Crock of BS
@MistaFisto
@MistaFisto 2 жыл бұрын
Yawn
@Rhyskendall8
@Rhyskendall8 2 жыл бұрын
Bunch of dudes playing with balls, I don't know...
@Parseenfroo
@Parseenfroo 2 жыл бұрын
Blokes, not dudes.
@Rhyskendall8
@Rhyskendall8 2 жыл бұрын
@@Parseenfroo blokes, dudes, chaps, fellas..whatever, don't tell me how to talk. If you look up the meaning of both dude is way more appropriate for footballers
@Rhyskendall8
@Rhyskendall8 2 жыл бұрын
@J Scott debatable
@hazharibo7439
@hazharibo7439 2 жыл бұрын
Surely nowadays it can't be too bad? It's more acceptable in society now..
@LiamGervaise
@LiamGervaise 5 ай бұрын
yeah you'd hope it would translate over to football but i think its due to how inbuilt it is in the culture, It's why the kick it out campaign had to come in cause racism was in the games core
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 2 жыл бұрын
Worst documentary in years!
@peteydynamite8794
@peteydynamite8794 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really see the problem, most gays don't like football anyway 😂. A gay player shouldn't take homophobic chants etc personally. Just as someone who has a big nose/ginger hair/a penchant for grannys will get songs sung about them, often by their own fans. Ultimately it doesn't matter and the majority of fans really don't care - the media as usual wants to bring ideology into sport, where it doesn't belong. I have black friends, gay friends etc and we all say offensive things to each other about our stereotypes. Its a sign of affection and friendship because of the context its used in.
@GolfingInParadise783
@GolfingInParadise783 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, as a United fan we used to sing the Park song about him eating dogs...clearly it was only banter...people are so fucking sensitive. I'm Welsh, get called a sheep shagger all the time, I couldn't care less, but then I'm not made of glass
@ethandalton6480
@ethandalton6480 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I always forget that historically people have been denied jobs, or have been murdered, for having a big nose, ginger hair or being a granny shagger.
@gentlemendontspit7831
@gentlemendontspit7831 2 жыл бұрын
Many homosexual men follow football, like many heterosexual men. Plus, a large number of professional football players are homosexual.
@peteydynamite8794
@peteydynamite8794 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethandalton6480 Perhaps we would have had historically less homophobia if our government hadn't jailed gay men.
@Chango98
@Chango98 2 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@alanfox691
@alanfox691 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe Ronaldo is gay & will come out long after he has hung up his boots. If a player was gay that had or was currently playing for my club big deal be open about it move on. I dont see it as a massive deal or even a big deal in this day in age. Would there be Mickey taking yes let's not lie but people have taken the Mickey out of me my entire life because I have Homosystanuria & the fact it makes my hands look skeletal like people used to say I looked like Skeletor & my reply was you had better make a run for it then because if I am Skeletor I am comeing for you & it would make the other person how had sead it in the first place laugh what I am saying is if someone has something to say about someone comeing out as gay then the person how his gay just has to say something like well your 100% safe from me because I am not that drspeit in the first place. I have had friends come out as gay but we always know this friend was gay she came out & it was a case of we always thought that was the case why did you not just say so years ago it's no big deal at all & we just carried on as before nothing changed friendship wise. I have met people also you would never have guessed where gay in a billion years one older guy how looked like Kenny Rogers I would never have guessed he was gay unless he told me but it was no big deal. Anyone reading this that is Gay I hope your life is happy & your comfortable with how your life is be positive never negative Gay or not. Keep Safe.
@samboy90
@samboy90 2 жыл бұрын
You believe Ronaldo is gay? Based on what? More like wishful thinking.
@Craig-gq4gb
@Craig-gq4gb 2 жыл бұрын
As a gay man, I had a good laugh at this.
@AlanJohnCash
@AlanJohnCash 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone ask?
@jimbean1196
@jimbean1196 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares if a footballer takes it up the arse or not? As long as they’re good as their job then what they like to do behind closed doors has nothing to do with anyone else.
@Newcastlecraze
@Newcastlecraze 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you just lost all level of credibility with that opening sentence! Any need
@aaronmichaels807
@aaronmichaels807 7 ай бұрын
It's still pervy...
@LiamGervaise
@LiamGervaise 5 ай бұрын
thats your discomfort showing lmao
@fearsome1376
@fearsome1376 2 жыл бұрын
It's a sport not a bloody political stand point to talk about your sexuality.
@heekamalokilo7194
@heekamalokilo7194 2 жыл бұрын
Why does someone coming out bother you? Straight footballers are free to talk about their relationships.
@fearsome1376
@fearsome1376 2 жыл бұрын
@@heekamalokilo7194 Yeah the straight ones can shut up to,it's a sport,play the game then go home...
@ashleyw6728
@ashleyw6728 2 жыл бұрын
U do realise relationships are public, from your comment I'm gonna assume u have never been in one
@questionade4229
@questionade4229 2 жыл бұрын
If a player feels the need to make an announcement then they know what to expect. If they care or allow the opinion of someone they don't know and probably never will, hurt them. Then may I suggest they either keep their sexuality private like most of us, because we don't give a fuck. Or they re-read the 'sticks & stones rhyme I'm assuming they learnt at school.
@LiamGervaise
@LiamGervaise 5 ай бұрын
mate its quite fucking simple to understand they dont wanna be hiding in the shadows
@fundzreal7680
@fundzreal7680 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with homosexuality but it doesn’t mean you go and abuse people. It’s fine to have that opinion but not actively hate people.
@JamieJamie2o2
@JamieJamie2o2 2 жыл бұрын
Really not good enough, “you don't agree” when it comes to homosexuality? That is as ridiculous as saying, you don't agree with someone's need to use the bathroom when they have to. But "It's fine to have that opinion" I guess?? Because that makes so much sense?
@gentlemendontspit7831
@gentlemendontspit7831 2 жыл бұрын
What a stupid thing to write Fundz Real.
@moistloaf3854
@moistloaf3854 2 жыл бұрын
You want a player's mind on the ball, not with his mind on his teammates balls.
@davidstephenson7680
@davidstephenson7680 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and sexist and racist blah blah blah 😴
@dondamon4669
@dondamon4669 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it matter?? Why are gays so obsessed with who people have sex with?
@msdd7610
@msdd7610 2 жыл бұрын
It’s more the other way around tbh
@ivy6588
@ivy6588 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boohoo
@starwonder8324
@starwonder8324 2 жыл бұрын
"THE FORERUNNER CHRONICLES" CHRIS HUDSON( SDA) YOU TUBE POWERFUL POWERFUL UNMISSABLE WATCH 🙏🏾❤️
@mauriziopluton4000
@mauriziopluton4000 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but be careful not to bow down to collect the soap in the shower 😬
@sulaman4280
@sulaman4280 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a sport that doesn't like em good job their if we expect this then u will see trans women in football in other sports that destroyed womans sports
@ethandalton6480
@ethandalton6480 2 жыл бұрын
Name me one women's sport that has been destroyed by trans women competing in it
@gentlemendontspit7831
@gentlemendontspit7831 2 жыл бұрын
No. Homosexual men and women don’t like transgender people. Most transgender people are heterosexual.
@user-dh8xf1tr9x
@user-dh8xf1tr9x 2 жыл бұрын
No? You want to win so you sign the players with the best ability. Stupid question.🤡🤡🤡
@JM-gw7he
@JM-gw7he 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of a nonsensical remark you've made there.
@lost_craig5739
@lost_craig5739 2 жыл бұрын
So you are trying to say gay people cant be good at football?
@MrGEORGETHOMPS
@MrGEORGETHOMPS 2 жыл бұрын
What
@DevilishBeaver0
@DevilishBeaver0 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf are you talking about, putting a clown emoji doesn't make your point make sense, you clown.
@user-dh8xf1tr9x
@user-dh8xf1tr9x 2 жыл бұрын
@@DevilishBeaver0 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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