The Powerful SFF PC That's Fun To Build w/ 7800X3D, 4070Ti

It's another build and this time I went smol! Here's a tiny computer with tons of power. Hope you enjoy!
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[@MrNathan07]

I'm looking at building my first ITX PC to downsize from my big ATX PC that I built earlier this year with a 12600K & a 3060, I'm also looking to eventually upgrade to a 7800 XT. I like how it's a bit bigger than some of the really small SFF PC's to allow for more hardware compatibility but still be small enough to be an ITX case, I also really like how the IO is up top with it too.

[@TaylorBrauer]

That's exciting! This case seems like a great fit for what you plan to do with it. Personally, I am so happy with the size of the PC. It can fit on my desk, on my entertainment center, or on the floor without taking up a lot of room and it's pretty light weight. It looks tiny up next to my Fractal Design Torrent but, like you mentioned, has plenty of space for high end hardware.

[@Pizzaguy432]

How the hell do you only have 4.8k subs? Your videos are the highest of qualities and very engaging , Good job sir.

[@TaylorBrauer]

haha thanks! I am absolutely amazed I have that many and I'm so thankful to everyone who watches. Making these videos has been a dream and I'm excited to keep making them.

[@unamdeenapanray10]

it costs 2,127 if anyone wants to know

[@lo855]

I'm planning on building a new pc soon and it will be my first build entirely for myself without having a more experienced friend guide me through it. I'm going ambitious and doing a small ITX build because they're by far my favorite... I'm just stuck on cooling setups because making sure everything will fit, and then on top of that figuring out an effective arrangement for cooling (in most cases) seems difficult. Using your video as a reference is helping me understand the process a lot better!

[@TaylorBrauer]

This is a great starting point for a first ITX build. Since it's got the power supply and cooler already installed it let's you focus on the fun parts being the mobo installation and the graphics card. Then you can add in fans as you figure out how your components perform in the setup. You'll have lots of fun. Stop by later to share how the build goes, if you'd like.

[@veinnzofficial]

I just got the same motherboard today, manufactured in 10/2023 so its a pretty recent one and for now it doesnt have any coil whine, so far so good. For the ones who have problems with the mediatek wifi card, or simply dont like it, you can replace it with some ax210 one simply by taking the i/o cover and swaping the wifi cards.

[@TaylorBrauer]

Congrats! Good comment on the wifi card. I didn't even know swapping it out was an option.

[@reallyryan_]

Nice buid! I chose this one for my 2nd rig, I have this case with an i9 12900K, RTX 3080 64GB DDR5 64000Mhz and a 2TB 990 Pro, i was gonna put my 4090 in from my main gaming PC but i'm not sure it will fit lol but i love this case it's awesome. Oh I also added some slim arctic fans underneath the GPU for more air intake i would reccoment fans at the bottom as well it really helps.

[@TaylorBrauer]

That sounds like a sweet build. I added some slim Noctua fans at the bottom and that seems to be working pretty well. Thanks for the advice.

[@ronald0122]

you did a great job taylor

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you!

[@PeterGreter]

Wow, Taylor, bro! You really cooked up something different in the kitchen. Dude! I think you’ll need to move into a larger space soon. Maybe above your restaurant! 😂 Great video! Cheers!

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thanks! Def need a bigger place.

[@wretchedslippage3255]

Rad.. My first PC build was a SFF and I had no idea what I was doing. A the time the 10 series cards just came out so i bought a 1070 which was WAY to big so i had to... mod my case so it'd fit lol. Good times!

[@TaylorBrauer]

haha sounds like fun times. I'd imagine you have to get pretty creative with some cases. Luckily this one was very beginner friendly.

[@Digital_1mpulse]

Great vid! Especially for someone interested in building an itx pc 🤙

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thanks!! This small build was so fun.

[@rontaumelscheibe]

Cool that everything working well. Build the same system, using a 7800XT. OC on GPU and CPU. Playing MSFS in VR. Works fantastic.

[@TaylorBrauer]

That sounds like a nice system. It's a perfect little system for VR. Enjoy!

[@Edemce1]

I have the same case and LOVE it .. runs great !! You can run slim line fans at the bottom to bring cool air inside under the gpu .

[@TaylorBrauer]

It's pretty great, right? It strikes that perfect balance of supporting high end hardware and being very compact. I placed one slim fan down there and I'm planning on putting another.

[@Edemce1]

@@TaylorBrauer Coudlnt agree more, this is a case that hit a home run for sure ! I run a RTX4070 FE card and the colors compliment each other perfectly.

[@jonnyfontane3607]

some run 2 full size fans isntead of slim fans

[@Edemce1]

@@jonnyfontane3607 depends on mounting position, and the older cases can accommodate full size .

[@MerlinovaBoroda]

Amazing job! I recently have found myself dreaming of building a PC in such a small case, but not VERY small (like Terra 😁). KZbin recommended me your video and now I know everything I have to. +rep

[@TaylorBrauer]

This case is really great for that middle ground of not so small as the Terra that you really gotta compromise and not so big where you're like "this isn't a SFF case". With the Max having the included power supply and AIO cooler it makes it so easy. I'm glad you found my video helpful. Have a great rest of your week!

[@rzmtz294]

good job man, great video

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you!!

[@Patrick_Felipe]

luv the build sir, great job!

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you! This was a super fun build. I really want to make another itx build in the future.

[@antalkristof1987]

amazing video, congrat mate! I'm planning to build almost the same config

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you! That's exciting. You'll have to stop by and let us know all that you went with, if you'd like to share. Enjoy!

[@antalkristof1987]

Thank your very much @@TaylorBrauer

[@psx1986]

Awesome build sir! I plan on using the same case for my build as well. BTW, what software are you using to track all your Cpu, gpu, ram, temps, and fps? Looks great!

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you! It's such a great case to build in and the thermals stay in check. That software is called CapFrameX. It leverages RTSS software to display stats.

[@tunahancakmakci]

Nice and helpful video -- thanks!

[@TaylorBrauer]

Yw! I'm glad you liked it!

[@cheeseslice9993]

Fair play lad .. awesome video 👏

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you!

[@SaltyFeta]

Great build 👍🏼

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you! It's been running great.

[@kanoeyuuko195]

today my case got shipped and it has 12HPWR alredy so it might be that they changed somethig during the production

[@TaylorBrauer]

Nice, it really needed that cable. Congrats on the new case. Enjoy!

[@MIN_Tech]

can I go rtx 4090+intel i9 13900k with nr200 max? the power supply only 850w which is power enough ? love the itx case small form factor!!

[@_AshishMohanty]

i think u need to underclock ur cpu and some 4090 require 1000w as recommended

[@TaylorBrauer]

I can't say for sure as this is only my first itx build but there's other videos out there with 4090/13900k configs which might give you more insight.

[@TaylorBrauer]

@@_AshishMohanty That's a good point. That would be a lot of heat.

[@_AshishMohanty]

@@TaylorBrauer yeah unless someone is costom watercooling their itx build its cery hard to tame 13900k even 360 aio without proper thermal application

[@Eight8411]

That noctua fan looks like its exhausting from inside the case

[@TaylorBrauer]

You're right. I mistakenly put it upside down after talking about making it an intake.

[@kitstter]

Great video!

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you!

[@xatamoto]

normal temperatures, if you put 3 coolers on the bottom it will be even better)

[@TaylorBrauer]

I love how there's room for slim fans down there. I have one atm add and I plan to add a second. idk if I can fit 3 but if I can that's even better.

[@TenarcMusic]

did you ever actually use the noctua fan? I never saw it being used or installed, and I'm thinking of building this pc for myself

[@TaylorBrauer]

Yep I have it installed at the bottom and it works great.

[@MrViperForce]

Would u recommend the 7800x3d over the 13600k? someone told me if i buy a 7800x3d is "I paid money for a component and now I have to drive it manually and make it work game" is that true?

[@marklin3071]

good job man, itx case is always not esay to build, smail case have more problem atx case have, l am glad you figure everythign out.

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you! It was a challange and so much fun. I really want to do another build soon.

[@marklin3071]

l still remember 2018 l build my first pc, and is itx case, is so fun and l love it@@TaylorBrauer

[@bobsykes]

I've been a Mac person since I went all in for a IIcx in 1990, but this idea of building your own is kind of fascinating to me. I especially like this more compact case and cooling system you describe as relatively quiet. Can that small case be pushed up to using the highest level desktop CPUs available (whatever the fastest i9 or Ryzen is right now) and, say, a maxed out 4090 GPU? I'm curious how far you could take that compact and quiet total package in terms of performance. Please be forgiving of my lack of experience with x86 builds. My approach has been when my current workstation or laptop will no longer do what I need it too, I buy the highest spec Apple Pro workstation or laptop I can find on the Apple refurbished store, and I typically keep using them for five to seven years.

[@TaylorBrauer]

I believe so. I've seen some video out there with 4090s and the most power cpus from AMD and Intel. I would have put my 4080 in here but it was just too long. I think the only 4090s that fit are the generic ones from Nvidia. The form factor is so nice. I have have it on my desk and it's like a little windows Mac Studio equivalent. I'd still probably prefer the Mac Studio. Maybe some day.

[@JamieR]

It can, but you will need to swap the PSU, possibly the cooler and get two bottom 140mm x 15mm fans doing in push config, creating negative space. Meaning you pull in air from the vented side panels, and then push it out from the top and bottom. Meaning both components get fresh air and stop recycling of hot air from blasting them with the heat. Would also need a solid undervolt on both parts as well. I've seen it done, so it is possible!

[@2zwyne975]

Nice vid, Taylor, I may get almost identical builder with yours, trying to get a couple customized psu cables what are a good minimal length for 24pin and gpu cable thanks

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thanks and good luck with your build.

[@brandonevans1073]

Hello Taylor! I know this video is months old, but have you had any growing pains using AM5? I’m in the process of planning my new build and I’m debating between LGA 1700 or AM5. I’ve heard/read that AM5 can be very hit or miss. I would like to know your experience using AMD’s new platform. Great video/build! Thanks!

[@TaylorBrauer]

I've had none whatsoever. This is my main gaming PC and it's handled everything without crashing or stuttering. I can't speak to any issues paring it with an AMD card because I keep it paired with Nvidia. I've only used it with Windows 11 too so maybe the chipset drivers are more mature on 11. The only thing I really don't do with this CPU is expect it to work well with video editing since it doesn't really have the cores to perform well in those tasks. Thanks! Have a good one.

[@JamWebH]

I'm also building my first itx similar to yours, same case, cpu and gpu 4070 TI but I haven't decided which one to get yet, I'm undecided...

[@TaylorBrauer]

That's exciting! This case has converted me into a SFF believer. I'd recommend going for smaller sized 4070Tis so that you don't run into any clearance issues or pinch your fingers getting it installed.

[@Gabehell]

I like you, Taylor! Great Freaking job!

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thanks! Glad you liked it. It's one of my favorite pcs I've built.

[@spinkey4842]

no fan headers??... is this a board that has them on a lil daughter board with the sata etc????

[@TaylorBrauer]

Yeah the header is on the daughter board.

[@xJinRaGna]

the fan u put in at the bottom is set to exhaust.

[@TaylorBrauer]

You're right! Good eye.

[@Shulcyo]

You can instal two slim fans on the bottom. Just get a 4pin Y splitter

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thanks! I actually got one under there. I need to add a second.

[@Shulcyo]

@@TaylorBrauer your CPU runs hot. I made same build but instead of 4070ti i added 7800XT. CPU temp around 60C while gaming

[@jonnyfontane3607]

some can fit full size fans instead of slim fans, ill try full size as soon as i got the case/parts

[@jonnyfontane3607]

so you actually dont need an extra 12VHPWR cable?

[@TaylorBrauer]

That card just needs one 12vhpwr cable or one adapter.

[@cakepopz2.0]

Just put my system together with the same case and mobo, the problem I’m having is that nothing turns on when I turn it on. The only thing that turns on is the lights on the back of the mobo. All the other stuff doesn’t turn on, my fans don’t spin, nothing. Only lights. I’ve tried taking apart all the connections and putting them back in and nothing still. Any solutions?

[@TaylorBrauer]

Ah, that really sucks. It could be a number of things. I'd recommend you build outside the case and work your way down to pinpoint the issue. Also check your motherboard for error codes.

[@cakepopz2.0]

@@TaylorBrauer gotcha thank you for the advice! I ended up taking it to a computer repair shop to see if they could solve the problem. Hopefully they will find the problem.

[@LS-is5ob]

planning on building this with a 4080 but just figured out the psu only has 2x8Pin Pcie but 3x8pin are needed how did you solve this???

[@TaylorBrauer]

I thought it had 4 8 pins. My gpu is pretty crammed in there and I don't remember the exact count. Amazon lists it has having 4 8 pin connectors.

[@bildur1]

do you think you could squeeze in a 4090?

[@TaylorBrauer]

I believe the 4090 FE will fit but don't quote me on that. Check out the manual online and compare with the FE to be sure.

[@demonhogo]

what did you spend on this build when you did it?

[@TaylorBrauer]

I'm not sure on exact number but somewhere around $2700. Not so fun for the wallet lol.

[@user-tm8fj9vl1p]

New keyboard ?😄

[@TaylorBrauer]

Yep! I'm looking forward to doing a video on it.

[@jordakalista4126]

my aio fan is not working rn, can i change with other 140mm fan? maybe u can help me to answer, thanks anyway

[@TaylorBrauer]

idk for sure but I would imagine it's a regular 3 or 4 pin fan. It doesn't look particularly slim either.

[@jordakalista4126]

@@TaylorBrauer okay thanks for ur responses bruh, keep goin

[@HolaGreen]

👍

[@TaylorBrauer]

👍

[@vwmusicplaylist1935]

Thumbs up like for funding this all yourself!

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thanks!

[@kearmau5]

you may wanna watch some itx building guides from professional itx experts like optimum tech or gear seekers, as well as machines and more, your bottom fan setup is not and intake fan that's an exhaust and given than the top radiator that came pre-mounted by CM they are working as exhaust fans and blowing air into the radiator and then out of the case from the top, with all that being said,you have created a negative pressure inside of your case despite using the ventilated panel, and that TG panel was the stupidest idea from CM ever made, those kind of cases especially us itx builders dont really care about esthetics and looking into the internals , however good thermal performance is the major problem here,

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thanks, yeah those are some good builders. I did make a mistake with the bottom fan being exhaust that I quickly caught but not before releasing the video lol. The glass panel does reduce thermals but not to significant degree. While I prefer the ventalated side panel the vertical graphics card is really nice to look at through the glass. It would be even better with some good interior lighting.

[@kearmau5]

@@TaylorBrauer man you are making that triple fan GPU suffer🥲 with that TG panel

[@nephilimslayer]

7900xt kills the 4070ti man...why u used a 12gb vram card?

[@TaylorBrauer]

4070ti is a beast card and the MSI one here is a good value.

[@nephilimslayer]

@@TaylorBrauer a beast card? 4070ti has less VRAM...less memory bus...less terralfops and less memory bandwidth than the 7900xt. next time spend ur money more wisely..it's a shame u didn't get the 7900xt which is a better card overall

[@TaylorBrauer]

@@nephilimslayer That's great for the 7900xt. Sounds like a great card. The 4070ti is still a beast.

[@nephilimslayer]

@@TaylorBrauer if u take both cards at face value for price.......the 7900xt is the clear winner. I didn't say the 4070ti is a bad card.....all I said for that money your choice was bad because the 7900xt exists in this world and beats the 4070ti in everything while costing the same price. if the 7900xt didn't exist then the 4070ti would be a good option.....but that's not the case since AMD came into the game with great GPUs and good prices

[@nephilimslayer]

oh btw......change the 2 fans on ur aio with noctua fans....they give u a couple of degree's less on both GPU and CPU

[@Johnny87Au]

Which cpu cooler ? Dont see it in the descriltion

[@TaylorBrauer]

It comes with the case since it's the "max" version. It's a 240mm cooler master AIO.

[@Johnny87Au]

Nice dude

[@buipero5617]

​@@TaylorBrauer280mm*

[@TaylorBrauer]

@@buipero5617 ty

[@Shulcyo]

Seems like you have bottleneckthere

[@user-wo4xz6ri4s]

Review a toaster next time. Make this a cooking channel. Such a waste for the spacious pretty kitchen

[@randomlonglegcat7973]

Jealousy is real☠️☠️☠️

[@christophermullins7163]

That is not small ff.

[@cheeseslice9993]

What is it then

[@christophermullins7163]

@@cheeseslice9993 it's small.. but not "sff" legit small form factor is about 4.5 iches thick. It's small.. and it has form.. and thAt is a factor..but it's not the true sff like gamers from the early2000s know so well from oems like dell etc.

[@joelman1989]

@@christophermullins7163what is the point of policing a label like this? For many, ITX MBO or PSU is enough to call it SFF because it indicates a case that is willing to trade convenience, airflow, etc. For a smaller size.

[@Boatnuts14]

Yeah this is a weird gatekeep

[@christophermullins7163]

@@joelman1989 it's a technicality for technicality sake. It's a fucking PC for god sakes.. All that exists is technicality. It's simply not "sff".. it's a small standard case. I just wish people would use correct terminology because a lot of PC geeks that have been in the game for a while will have the standard sff idea and be totally throw off when you see this small standard shaped PC. What do we have in this life but sticking to terminology set by large companies in the years past so that we all know what each other is talking about? He can call it anything else in the world that he would like.

[@STUPEEEEEEEEEED]

Very good vid. Can you show the temp results after an undervolting the CPU and GPU?

[@TaylorBrauer]

Thank you! idk, I'm not much into messing with voltages since cooling isn't really an issue. I'll consider it though.

[@STUPEEEEEEEEEED]

@@TaylorBrauerAh, I see. Yeah, I agree the temps are pretty good. Solid build!

[@BtechKotheWali]

can i use i9 14th gen or ryzen 9 zen 4 with this case?

[@TaylorBrauer]

I haven't tried it myself but you should be able to. The AIO cooler is pretty good.

[@inkedalive2597]

I bought this case after seeing a few videos, I was wondering I just booted and my temps are fine, but the aios pump, does the logo light up? Or is it solid black, cant tell if I did something wrong since temps are around 31Cs

[@TaylorBrauer]

You made a great choice. Congrats!! It doesn’t light up. The logo is laser etched on the pump surface.

[@inkedalive2597]

@@TaylorBrauer Wow thank you so much I was looking everywhere!! Im loving the lil box and your video helped so much with the build.