The Pre-Sequel was BETTER than Borderlands 2

Borderlands the Pre-Sequel was better than Borderlands 2. Before you blast me with your opinions, let me explain exactly what I think the Pre-Sequel did better and why. That's not to say I don't like borderlands 2, in fact I got most of my many game time hours from the PS Vita version. But The pre sequel doesn't get enough love in my opinion, so its time for a dedicated video highlighting all the things it does right.
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[@-Mushroom_Kid-]

Honestly, if pre sequel had as much content as BL2 i think id play it more than 2 and i think the community would say its the best

[@ViCT0RiA6]

i will die on the hill with pride that TPS is my favourite Borderlands game, the amount of lore it added/filled into the series + the gameplay was just so so fun. it just became cool to hate on TPS and at first i fell for it too but after playing it multiple times as a gladiator class i am truly in love with it

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

100% its so good, didn't help that destiny came out around same time which further made it not get the love it needed.

[@saltycomet]

Same. Deserves more love

[@semprequevoceleroscomentar3696]

it is because of the lasers man, bl2 guns fort me feels unprecise and all over the place while lasers are such a cool addition to the game...

[@ethansmith8175]

Once you get used to better and faster movement it's hard to go back. The low gravity air boost and buttslams are a game changer for me

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Honestly, its soo slow and linear going back to Borderlands 2 after.

[@leilaniaileenlove]

Same

[@alexking7262]

In other words, you’re all saying that you got addicted to the low gravity, double jump & slam abilities, right? SAME HERE LMAO! 😜 After going back to Borderlands 2, it just didn’t feel the same as The Pre-Sequel with the low gravity, double jump, & slam features!

[@JohnLee-dp8ey]

Liked how the characters actually addressed your character instead of calling you Vault Hunter, also UVHM is more doable than in Bl2

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

100%

[@leilaniaileenlove]

Yes

[@Videomenkarlo002]

I love Presequel story. Laser guns and jump boosts in low gravity were so fun. Sadly we never saw it's other dlcs which had very interesting concept art.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Honestly one of the biggest missed opportunities of the borderlands franchise

[@saltycomet]

💯

[@leilaniaileenlove]

Claptastic voyage ❤

[@AGATH0R]

I really liked Pre-Sequel. I think I put more hours into it, I thought the map settings were gorgeous and I love the laser guns and I thought freeze was a cool addition

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

100% same here. Was soo hard going back to borderlands 2 after pre sequel coz it felt so basic without those features.

[@SwagSwagSenate]

I actually made a Borderlands mod for Star Wars Battlefront II 2005 that's mostly based on The Pre-Sequel, you should play it! It's called Borderfronts. I even remade the claptastic voyage boss battle

[@sogarbraten9950]

TPS has better desgined skill trees than BL2 but much of the game just feels like an endless sequence of floaty jumps through similar looking landscapes while in BL 2 every area feels unique also the endgame of BL2 is second to none in the series overall i prefer 2

[@lukasvokurka9224]

I also love Pre-sequel more than BL2. Well... That was small lie. At their current state without mods I like them both as much as the other. If only Pre-sequel had more Endgame content. I don't need Raid bosses. I never enjoyed them, but more Slaughter shafts and DLC campaigns (because the one we got was awesome), then I would love better level scalling. Instead of making huge gaps between main mission levels, it would be better to just either gain xp faster or get from missions more xp then how is now. And finally more dedicated drops. I love the grinding and I miss it in BL3, but I would love if instead of like 80% of legendary gear being accessible just by Grinder and only 20% having dedicated drops I would love it the other way around. But I am not hating on Pre-sequel. It has for me the best vaulthunters in series, I enjoy the story more then in BL2(although main villain is not that good), laser weapons and jetpack were also great.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

100% I get ya, the game has flaws. Borderlands 2 undeniably has more content in it. I also felt the exp gap in the pre sequel, honestly not enough missions and enemies other than Iwajima and the guardians in the pokemon side quest that give a good amount of exp to get to lv70 fast. So much potential but sadly the game was dropped before it had a proper chance.

[@youngmostafa]

I agree with this 100% BL2 is just so sluggish to me. TPS did so many things better other then end game content

[@lowlandnobleman6746]

The Pre Sequel technically does have slag weapons, just not ones the player can use. Some of the guardians in Eleseer have slag attacks.

[@ImhotepVII648]

Borderlands the pre-sequel is the arkham origins of borderlands..

[@yikelu]

I played TPS before 2, and it was a slog to get through 2 as a result. The movement and maps were way more fun to me in TPS. TPS had better skill trees as well, and the unique dialog per character gave more replayability. The main thing that TPS seemed to lack vs 2 is end game content, and I never really cared that much for leveling up really high and farming for equipment.

[@mork3271]

Spot-on with everything man. I have more hours on 2, because of the add-ons. However, TPS is catching up. I'll run a new character in the PS whenever I get a bit stale on the other games I play. And of late, I've been thrashing the PS heaps. You have so many options with the weapons and they nailed it with the environment. Great review and you gotta new sub.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed the video. Wish I could make the vid abit smoother now but the points in it are still strong.

[@n3rfdr4gon99]

Traversing the maps in TPS was uber satisfying because the low gravity made me feel more super human. I did not understand why it was hated so much on release. Plus, cryo weapons were so fun to use, especially on jumping enemies because watching them fall and shatter slowly was a treat every time! Love TPS!

[@wafflesoldier7957]

I hope gearbox may come back to do one last hoorah like they did with Commander Lillith for BL2

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Honestly same, we need that unfinished dlc they never released.

[@Delicashilous]

​@@Hero_of_Sinnoh since yesterday!

[@OlaftheGreat]

I can't personally say that the Pre Sequel is better than BL2 2. It just doesn't have the scope or wealth of extra content that BL2 has. That being said...the Pre-Sequel is EXTREMELY underrated. It's definitely a ton of fun, and well worth playing, even replaying. If you love Borderlands 2, you're going to at least enjoy the Pre-Sequel.

[@bebopknux5857]

While I do agree with the view I do have to say that if pre-sequel had more support, or anywhere near as close as 2/3 i fear it's UVHM might of suffered a similar fate as it's not that far off from 2 release wise. But maybe cyro alone could of fixed the plague of the OP levels. Hopefully somewhere in 4 we will have a cyber space DLC as i can't really see a whole game having it but just like pre-sequel a singular addition.

[@joshalmightyblades]

pr sequel was the best imo. I played it with my son, and maybe that enhanced the experience, but its one of ny favorite games of all time.

[@leilaniaileenlove]

Me too

[@eddiecroc3035]

i totally agree with your opinions mainly the TERRIBLE END-GAME balance. My god UVHM was utter cancer for me not to mention the OP levels which makes me wanna stop playing the game all altogether and that i did. Even with the mods that makes the BL2's UVHM more balanced i just couldn't bother on playing the game anymore because i have gotten so use of the meta and always using slag. nowadays if i wanna play borderlands i would either play BL1 or BL:TPS. i don't have BL3 hence i didn't mention it for those who were curious.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Right exactly, op levels and UVHM actually were insane in bl2 and really forced me to only use salvador

[@theobell2002]

Sounds like a skill issue to me, my dude.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

@@theobell2002 not even gonna argue against it, I'm not the best borderlands player

[@HelloHelloe]

@@Hero_of_Sinnoh Ya don't have to be to know they BALLSED up the scalings in BL2 and the Pre-Sequel was the TRUE Borderlands 3 that nobody ever let grow. They just stamped that flower out before it bloomed cos it looked like it coulda been a weed

[@Snippyyy]

im just saying, if you can get past the awful story of bl3, its by far the best endgame, you dont need any exterior damage, (cryo, slag, etc) its very good fun

[@yoshiari2553]

underrated video, i love both games, but i see the point here.

[@Bram25]

Pre Sequel had fun new weapons and mechanics but it was plagued by 2K Australia being closed and one piece of DLC being cancelled and we got an arena piece of DLC and one good piece of DLC. Oh. And patches with bosses and mini bosses respawning came in WAAAAAAAY too late.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

I defs agree, by the time the dlc and much needed changes came most of my friends playing it had already stopped and moved on to destiny. I was one of the only ones still playing it then. But at the end of the day its still a much better game now than it was at launch as all borderlands games are after a few years.

[@Particle_Ghost]

People cry that it's too short, but I look at it as being a very long expansion. Even without that being said, it's longer than any shooter that would come out by today's standards.

[@SteveWillo]

I agree 100 percent. I own the handsome collection and put way way more time in TPS than bl2. I loved the lore and setting and vhs a lot more.

[@Padawan333]

Pre sequel had the best designed characters for sure. Story was way better. My only gripe is the lack of end game.

[@itsagabe]

idk what it is with BL2, but even before I clocked over 250h on it (and counting), I struggle to get into TPS and especially BL3. I do want to play TPS despite its lack of a proper, fleshed out endgame, but idk... there's just something about BL2's Pandora and its vast array of content that keeps pulling me back. I've been playing it on and off for six years or so and I still haven't played through all the DLC (partially because I didn't want to struggle much going into TVHM and after that, UVHM). I did just install TPS on my Steam Deck and intend to give it yet another shot. I do absolutely love the intro in Helios, though. Much better intro than BL2's.

[@nachoooshagy]

For me, the tier list for Borderlands is: presequel --> 3 (even with one of the worst character in the series, but I really love the maps, the gameplay and missions) --> 2 (even with the best story and characters, but the gameplay is very slow, Pandora's environment is unattractive for me and the side missions are very boring in general) --> 1 (obvious reasons)

[@felixcorona13]

U make some good points...my only gripe with TPS was that i was never able to use my golden keys

[@leilaniaileenlove]

Why not? Ive used them a lot

[@Lance-xy8hv]

I enjoyed the pre sequel a little more tbh. Everytime i go back to bl2 it just feels so slow by comparison. Bl2 wins content wise though. Theyre usually bundled together at this point anyways so it doesn't really matter

[@lukasmarciano]

How many hours do you have in your save? I mean, what does "1:22:02:02" mean? The first number is a day? So in this case would be 46 hours?

[@AdurianJ]

Only thing i hate with the Pre-Sequel is the oxygen timer mechanics. Skip that and its straight up better

[@leilaniaileenlove]

Main reason Pre Sequel is my favorite is that it actually feels and looks like you're in space. O2, low gravity, starry skies, floating stingray vehicles, atmosphere versus vacuum affecting fire differently... But mainly for me the feeling of almost being able to fly... The low gravity is just mind-blowingly awesome to me ❤❤❤ i just play to fly through the air sometimes and feel the euphoria

[@ChromaticWand]

The only reason I don't like tps is bc of the grind. Leveling is so so damn slow

[@DennisRevy]

Buttslams, a simple feature that elevated pre-sequel over Borderlands 2

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

100%

[@Gabe-fl9pr]

You know what, I agree with this now

[@dkstudios4805]

claptrap main, opinion validated

[@JanoschNr1]

The only thing I realy REALY hate about this game, aside of the redcons is, the god awful jump sections, when one has to jump over cliffs with vehicles, I can't even tell you how often I died due to landing weirdly and therefore getting pushed into the cliff or other bs. Also a thing wich annoyed by all BL's is, ever since BL1 they force you to explore, but most of the time when you actually do it, you die by falling throu fake mesh. The worst decision ever to include "Search and find" things in BL, ffing Vault symboles

[@vnshngpnt]

7:40 while true, using glitches is like cheating. Yes you win easily with Sal, but what's the point? That said, even without glitches Salvador is the strongest one indeed. But I also disagree that others can't have different builds and playstyles viable. Otherwise good video, I also love TPS, quite underrated game in general.

[@PromiseIsAPendulum]

unrelated to 2 or tps but from the hyperius clip… the way health bars tick down is way more satisfying to me in 3… like how the white part stacks up if you do enough dmg at once

[@Blakewyattdunfee]

Is this the borderlands game where you start on a space station then on a magma planet?

[@leilaniaileenlove]

Yep

[@Blakewyattdunfee]

@@leilaniaileenlove thanks.

[@richiep3520]

Wouldn't it be amazing if all the planned stuff for bltps got taken up and some dlcs got released? The game still has life in it and would reopen the game back up to a lot of people. No idea how it works about buying the rights but would be cool imo.

[@leejordan001]

Last time when Borderlands was great...

[@bornana6012]

my opinion is that the Pre-sequel is not better. the main thing is the story, it is much more involved in the second one than it is the pre-sequel. (not to offend pre sequel fans)

[@Deshxnnn]

I feel the pre sequel was the easiest borderlands but still a very fun game I actually have been playing through this one and borderlands 3 on my steam deck recently

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Thats so good, portable is such a fun way to play borderlands.

[@marcoaledo7379]

I dont like grinding or the high level endgame so a lot of these things dont apply. I think the Pre-Sequel is a great borderlands game with many well done features and additions. I understand that it didnt reach the same love because of hiw samey it is to the second game, which at launch made the game feel less interesting and special than when BL2 came out. But we might have overcome that. To me what does it is the setting. I dont like space and sci-fi, the Pre-Sequel had too much of that for me. I didn't like looking or being in the world, its just not my thing snd the whole game is moon or space station, which is awesome for those who like it, but for me its just the opposite. BL1 had my favorite setting and I am glad the franchise is so varied because there is a lot to choose from for so many players

[@botronas6039]

Was thinking of making a video with this idea, but you beat me to it by 7 months

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Hehe 😏

[@mydadbeatsmii9808]

i’ve never been able to like tps it’s just so boring in my brain for no reason the whole game feels like a slog to get through and the level scaling is just awful because all the xp you get is bread crumbs after level 12

[@shriekinambassador5042]

pre sequel had no endgame- gameplaywise pre sequel was insanely more fun tho. Because in BL1 - gunzerker salvador being just that much stronger than any other class - that means that unless I was fucking around with pimpernel and the other fibber gun with gaige I just had no reason to not play Gunzerker. Because gunzerker could slag heal with grognozzle and at the same time dps anyone to death with interfacer or unkempt herold. So pre sequel had no endgame but BL2 OP endgame was also so god damn boring. I never went past op 1-2 because its just challenge for the sake of challenge.

[@Snippyyy]

it really sucks that sal is just so many leagues above the rest of the vault hunters, and even on sal op10 can be just a slog, id never recommend going to op10 to anyone, get to lvl 80, make a build off that, and leave it at that, the op levels were a mistake, imo the only borderlands game with a real endgame is bl3, its not a pain on any character, so many weapons are viable, and its all around good fun with a fair share of content

[@LexAnarchy]

It really speaks volumes how much end game matters in this series when that is almost the only thing BL2 does better than TPS, but the public perception is that BL2 is the best and TPS is not great. TPS will always be my favourite. Such an amazing game.

[@Strange9952]

Absolutely! I agree

[@katoka143]

the main thing i hate about tps is the stupid level balancing. the story has less missions than in bl2, but the level you should be after the story is still the same, so they put huge level gaps between the main story missions. i had to do all the sidequests from the base game and 4 holodomes just to be on-level for the dlc also, most good weapons were obtainable from shadow-tp or eos, and because eos has a ten times higher drop chance on the story kill and shadow-tp is a one time kill, you have to read-only farm both

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

I agree with this, definitely a grind leveling up especially if you don't have other players to help farm exp on the Pokémon side quest and farming was awkward. Not a perfect game but still my fav of the series.

[@linkfreak1176]

Aurelia and Athena Are the two best vault hunters, hands down. They are the most fun siren type characters

[@djnes2k7]

TPS takes way to long to get going, I finished it when it came out, but can’t get past hour 7. It too slow moving, and it didn’t make me care about what’s going on. BL2 gets and stays with a sense of urgency until it’s done. Also Sal isn’t broken at all, stop using KZbin to play a game and just play. Sal has a lot of give and take. If you’re actually good at the game and not just glitching and meta each VH has their advantages and challenges. Also weapons like the sand hawk grog pimpernel aren’t legendary but kicks ass. Same with the gub lady fist. The laudaux. Too many players blame the game when in reality they went online and coped someone else build, and wonder why they don’t have their experience. Only reason you can say that about tps is because it barely had anyone online posting builds and glitches

[@Snippyyy]

heres my biggest issue, and really only issue with tps, the missions are kind of shit, at least the first half, it always boils down to making what should be a easy task into a needlessly long and painful adventure, thats what kills the replayability to me, it just annoys me

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

I agree the first half of the game is kinda bland and drags on abit.

[@DennisRevy]

that Janey Springs Lazer missions would be a great example. It was so much of a chore that I really felt Torgue's insertion in the end basically saved it from being scrapped from development.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

@@DennisRevy ahah soo true, my fav part about that mission is torgue coming in for no reason XD

[@Snippyyy]

@@DennisRevy torgue is the only reason that mission is there absolutely

[@mangodango1733]

Athena felt like a pretty close to perfect commando class with the shield, melee damage, and bleed healing

[@cmartech]

Hell NO!!! BL2 is the best!

[@xcrack6364]

I have to respectfully disagree. While it certainly looks better visually, navigating areas is an absolute nightmare with all the verticality. It’s decent but definitely not better than 2.

[@vanhunksthepirate]

I liked playing the vault hunter craig

[@user-xn6wu4gj3d]

Craig 😭

[@leilaniaileenlove]

Pre sequel is like a second home to me

[@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094]

Decent game. I like the story, and the characters are fun to play with, but some of the dedicated drops are questionable at best. It should get a remake just to fix all of the unnecessary bugs (and so that one unfinished DLC can be playable).

[@TheWickedOG]

I only clicked on this video to tell you that you are objectively wrong, theres legit nothing you could say to back up such a wild claim, and i dont mean this in any kind of a mean way, but dude it just simply isnt even about opinions, pre sequel didnt even have designated drops, enough said.

[@SullivanDLuffy]

What are you yapping about.

[@omardiaz9066]

agreed

[@BryerTheGreater1]

So true

[@Tsuny999]

Dont agree but still a good game

[@nickdelozada]

Bl2 is better but tps could of passed it if it had more content

[@matthewmoore5698]

Don’t be silly

[@aj_5433]

Preach

[@Freedom-kl8rt]

Not even close

[@d00000py]

honestly yeah

[@Jihadbearzwithgunz]

If you said bl3 I would agree.. Laughs in bore on hyperious

[@fabiofuentes7769]

Yes

[@TheLemonyOne]

So when is the rocket league review coming?

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Not a bad idea 😉

[@MrTripcore]

Is there an option to turn off those annoying numbers

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

I think there is on the hud settings not 100% sure where exactly

[@MrTripcore]

@@Hero_of_Sinnoh do you know if it's the same for the other borderlands games

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

@@MrTripcore I think borderlands 2 and 3 have a similar setting, not sure bout 1 or wonderlands

[@MrTripcore]

@@Hero_of_Sinnoh ok thanks

[@vanhunksthepirate]

I thought I was playing it wrong ! OP10 is just stupid. Literally can only spawn for like 30 seconds aaaaaaand your dead 😂

[@ilgioia2644]

Zeb89

[@thecrazyone1384]

I love borderlands the pre sequel

[@nikithefrog428]

YES

[@FighTThePower.]

Nah ur coping

[@yannick499]

Nah

[@theobell2002]

Before I clicked on this video I knew it would be some "BL2 is unbalanced and only 3 guns are viable at OP10" brain rot. No, you're just bad at theorycrafting if you can't put together a build without the Sham, Bee or Harold. You can make almost any weapon work. Maybe not on OP10 but you still have a large amount of good weapons at your disposal like the Butcher, Bekah, Kitten, KerBlaster (if you're playing Krieg or Axton) and even some regular purple weapons and more. Also, I wouldn't call the Rosie and Vibra Pulse "outstanding" weapons. Glitched Maliwan Splitters outperform them by a large margin.

[@Snippyyy]

its not that things arent "viable" its just a pain to use them, you have to be sweating your ass off to have any fun on op10

[@saltycomet]

💯

[@coreywhite8640]

My brother in Christ

[@seanonel]

You're an Aussie. Of course you'd say that! 😂 It was enjoyable though...

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

😂 very true

[@bwasal]

Perfectly pinpointed my gripes with BL2, I only sunk around 30 hours into the game but the problem is that you constantly need to stop, farm for some level appropriate shit, and continue playing