The Price of America’s New Factory Boom

[@aleonyohan6745]

I installed a chiller at a Mercedes battery plant in Alabama. Gorgeous Factory. The workers are making $30 an hour plus. This is a huge Boom for the local economy.

[@Szcza04]

But they don’t know if they need it smh

[@keith6371]

Sadly no one is buying Mercedes EV, so the plant will be closed shortly

[@jarjarbinks6018]

New factories should be built with freight rail network connectivity in mind as well as commuter rail if the town happens to be located in a metro area comprised of a larger city This allows for more resilient development to be built that can withstand economic downtowns. The alternative is sprawling outwards to accommodate more people which can’t be maintained when there’s a shortage of funds. My city went bankrupt from that model

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

Which city, and which factory was built nearby.

[@navyseal1689]

Was it Detroit? I think only city in US ever filed for bankruptcy

[@philippenight2421]

Yeah I doubt a car factory will have any interest in promoting non-car transit lol

[@Pernection]

Where now? The ghettos?

[@mishkosimonovski23]

Detroit has a lot of old industrial space, train lines.

[@philipmccready7090]

The last time the American economy built factories at this speed was World War II and the 1950s.

[@Szcza04]

Build back better

[@lookoutforchris]

@@Szcza04sounds a lot like make America great again.

[@gregoryturk1275]

@@lookoutforchrisNot really also make America great again is quite a vague comment

[@choncha23]

@@Szcza04 The deal started with Trump scrapping NAFTA and creating a new agreement. Then Biden forced a lot of manufacturers to leave China and many moved to Mexico. So both Presidents get credit here.

[@rapidsqualor5367]

Build it where you sell it. Now we need a workforce and a education system that responds to what business needs.

[@DagaenGolomb]

Change the zoning so it doesn't need to be all single family, detached housing on large lots with non-native grass yards. Let people CHOOSE, instead of forcing the status quo.

[@HeronPoint2021]

Famed Canadian Arthur Erickson states in his seminal speech in the early sixties: We do NOT want to emulate the American experience of distant housing blocks and having to pave more and more highways to get people in/n/out of the cities. And for the most part, we didn't. Americans need to visit cities that work and not be afraid of doing something different.

[@farzana6676]

​@user-zp7jp1vk2i Lol no thanks. We don't want to live like sardines in a tincan.

[@alanmay7929]

Exactly! In Europe for example multiple story buildings have business/offices at the bottom and apartments on top at all places and there are also multiple family houses....

[@stix562]

And in Europe they have really small places to live in. They might like that. In Europe they put criminals in jail and don't feel bad for people stealing less than $1000 dollars. Europeans are also pretty homogenistic societies and not to welcoming of other cultures. Like Canadians are pretty homogenistic too come to think of it. Hmmm should we try to be like them?? I think not. We can be better but we don't have to one size fits all.

[@DagaenGolomb]

@@stix562 The majority of Americans live in urban areas. Thinking that the majority of America is rural and everyone wants land is a complete myth. Maybe Americans should have smaller spaces to live, most are buying far more than they need.

[@BOOMER751]

One of the main reasons for all these foreign automakers to settle in the south is because of the low rate of unionization compared to the rust belt.

[@FutureProspect24]

Wow that’s a great point nobodies talking about. Love to hear more on this

[@Bob-w2b8j]

Yep, unions are a non-starter for most companies. Not sure whether that says more about how bad worker rights here in the U.S. are, or how much it sucks to have to deal with unions. It would be nice if we had a happy middle ground

[@Polack-ml9fh]

Yea there’s enough dumb hillbillies there that have no backbone, so they will work for peanuts.

[@jsdhesmith2011]

And it’s cheaper. Taxes

[@ivywoodxrecords]

@@jsdhesmith2011 This is the reason. Unions have been largely irrelevant since the 80s although they are making a comeback

[@tonyzaffirini7368]

I dont understand this. The people of the Savannah area spent years lobbying to have their port expanded to get large shipping from Asia now they are freaking out about an Asian company building a giant factory that is tied to that port?

[@coreyleander7911]

it's because it's coming from Democrats/Biden. Literally all political.

[@rickjames18]

We need to triple and quadruple the industry growth in America and near-shore as well as we pivot away from China. There is a huge need for this and I hope people understand how important Mexico, Vietnam, India and other countries are playing as well. We are just short on time and dangerously at risk with China actively decoupling from the US as well. I don't think people really understand the major changes happening around the world at the moment.

[@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073]

Yes let's take more from the future to build now. 😂😂 190 trillion of debt and liabilities is not enough. 😂

[@Justmekpc]

@@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073tell us you don’t understand how a fiat system works 😂😂

[@rickjames18]

@@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073 So true, let's just keep depending on China as they literally prepare for war. Genius idea for the economy. US debt is high but let's not get silly.

[@jamestalbot1647]

So you aren’t impressed with Biden policies doubling within a year factory construction?

[@chrisoffersen]

@@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073Thank you for illustrating this point.

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

Never ceases to amaze me that before Trump, these very people were complaining about jobs and loss of manufacturing. Now it's coming back they are all worried that it will grow their little town to much.

[@ericeandco]

It not the growth, it’s the negative consequences.

[@destroyer-tz2mk]

I disagree, a housing shortage is a very real and serious concern. Where are all these thousands of new workers these jobs create are going to live?

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

@@destroyer-tz2mk As it said in the video, one town built apartments and hotels to cater for the workers while houses are built. Proper planning will address those issues and they are already looking at it before the plant is completed. Where do you think the workers building the plant are housed.

[@TwilightMysts]

A valid point. I still think we need to bring at least some manufacturing back to the US. Or at least rebalance our trade with China. But I am one of those people who hadn't considered how putting a giant factory next to a small town could destroy the culture of the town.

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

@@TwilightMysts Small towns don't last forever. Eventually business and people move in because the land is cheaper. For the economy to keep moving, there has to be growth and sometimes it affects people and their lifestyle.

[@RajSachdeva]

Don’t build single family homes. Build public transportation and urban centers to accommodate new workers. Or keep making mistakes

[@bwofficial1776]

Not everyone wants to live in the city and ride the bus. Many people want their own four walls and a yard so their neighbors aren't all up in their business. Buses are less convenient than having your own car and you have to share space with strangers.

[@analienfromouterspace]

Horizontal apartment complexes is the way to go, look at Egypt for example, 3 beds, 2 bath apartment for 100k or less. I personally wont live in duplexes with zero sound insulation and rather own single family homes with minimal grass lot on it.

[@DagaenGolomb]

@@bwofficial1776 And those people can pay fair price for that choice. Instead of being subsidized like they are now. Also, buses and other transit (or walking, cycling, etc.) would not be as inconvenient if we had real investment in these modes, paired with the density and flexibility of urban areas.

[@blainegabbertgabonemhofgoa6602]

@@bwofficial1776 can’t have your cake and eat it too. Everyone having their 1 acre lot and each household having 3 cars is not a scalable model. It’s not congruent with economic growth. When you pair that type of land use with economic growth you experience soul crushing traffic paired with insane housing costs.

[@HeronPoint2021]

@@bwofficial1776 the world has changed. you just ain't gonna give it up, are you? in fact, living in cities and taking the train is NORMAL and has been for 200 years now. it's the "Merican" consumer dream of regular wage people having a small castle. That time has gone.

[@granthawkins88]

What an odd framing. This is an absolute success story, and everyone involved is on their toes and adapting. Godspeed!

[@nathanjustus6659]

I would suspect that Mr. Bloomberg has significant investments in foreign companies, making cars in foreign nations. He is not a friend of the United States of America, nor of freedom and constitutional government.

[@garybowler5946]

I agree. Bloomberg media hates to see any government adjacent success story so they poop all over it.

[@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244]

The Biden Admin and the brilliant backers have not built one, single EV charging station. No plan for supplying the electricity demand has been undertaken. There isn't even copper in the world available to produce the number of cars required to meet the numbers required by the Global Warming requirements. This is a cart before the horse that will end with us all using nothing but horsecarts!

[@christopherpearson8637]

What's odd is your comment.

[@steeldriver5338]

Not necessarily, no. I was born and raised in a rural area, rapid development isn't always a great experience. There can actually be numerous negative aspects of it.

[@nickns732]

Companies: look at all this cheap land and low taxes! Also these companies: why is there no infrastructure to support my business!

[@Sjalabais]

Honestly, I trust Hyundai more to follow all relevant legislation than any of the formerly entrenched big three automakers. Savannah will be better off for it, and Hyundai/Kia lead the EV market currently, so the region will be at the forefront of a change that needs to happen.

[@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073]

😂Kia that could not even put a cheap simple immobilizer. 😂sure.

[@miraphycs7377]

bruh hyundai hired child laborers

[@Soundsofthewood]

I don't think EV will be the future. On the brightside though. That factory will be able to produce ICE cars as well. So this is an absolute win for the future. I wish the big three would care more about Americans.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073Numb nuts like you don’t even realize Kia fixed the problem. Car manufacturers especially American have done far worse.

[@brunopadovani7347]

​@@SoundsofthewoodI wish the Big Three AND the UAW cared more about Americans.

[@adamsterdam9049]

build more dense housing ffs

[@scottforrester5306]

It seems the issue is in part they just dont have the infastructure in the first place. Things like sewage capacity and water being the key ones, although I would assume the lacking of major roads and electricity production are also an issue.

[@bwofficial1776]

Not everyone wants to live on top of their neighbors. Many people want their own four walls and a nice yard.

[@shoopddawhooped]

"But But But More Housing in my area drops my property-value Wahhhh" Quoted from the Boomers who control the City Hall.

[@adamsterdam9049]

@@bwofficial1776 Not everyone wants their own four walls and a nice yard. Many people want to live on top of their neighbor.

[@DagaenGolomb]

@@bwofficial1776 You can have your own 4 walls and a yard without being a fully detached on acres.

[@emilealpha2392]

Seeing a small southern business be so welcoming by saying I gotta learn Korean was such a fresh breath of air. Were all human

[@michaelayeni177]

I never thought that conservatives become environmentalists as soon as thier lands (not just urban areas now) are augmented.

[@bwofficial1776]

Always have been. It's in the name, conservation. Just because you're moving forward doesn't mean you're making progress.

[@hansolo8225]

Conservatives don’t like change including a new factory moving to town.

[@hrsmrt9292]

It's about 'keeping up with the voters' strategy, and try to kept out any 'external elements' that could 'tampered' their party's regional polls, it's one of thing what they're fear the most.

[@ianhomerpura8937]

​@@Justin-l2j semiconductor factories need a constant supply of water

[@farzana6676]

Conservatives have always been environmentalists. We live in the country so we know about practical environmentalism more than the libtard bureaucrats in DC.

[@renecomedy]

This is so exciting and educational! One often forgets about how much infrastructure needs to be built around industry! I hope those neighborhoods the best!!

[@hazare535]

Covid taught world not to depend on one country for everything 😂

[@Bob-w2b8j]

Partly, for sure. It definitely stung, as a U.S. citizen, when you realize that you're buying masks from the country where COVID was first released into the wild 😂

[@okaydude2863]

Not just COVID

[@doujinflip]

Efficiency and resilience are competing interests: "wasteful" redundancy and "uneconomical" alternatives immediately becomes vital when the one source gets disrupted.

[@benkempf]

There's no such thing as "government dollars." That's taxpayer money. Get it straight.

[@scottprather5645]

Yes genius we know that

[@mattknappick799]

Boomers shifted manufacturing overseas. Gen X and Millennials are bringing it back

[@truth8422]

Aren’t we in Gen Z already? That’s all I hear these days. Some are even saying Gen Alpha has already arrived 😢

[@doujinflip]

Millennials are entering their prime productivity years now, increasingly executive positions too.

[@rohitghoshal]

@@truth8422 Gen Z are people born after 1996. This generation has doesn't have any decision making power in corporate world yet.

[@kevinansley7353]

Clown

[@blackknight4996]

Don't dream...when the subsidies end, your dream end at the same time.

[@OrionsKelt]

People that deny progress because “nOt In MuH BaCk YaRd” were probably hall monitors in school.

[@capitalismisdivisionofevil8322]

Progress that is destructive and promotes greed and labor exploitation is criminal behavior/!

[@austincline5648]

The developers will finance and design water and sewer plants if they really want to be in a specific area. Towns just need to speak up and demand financial help. On the other hand it’s shocking how much money a county can find if it means they’ll get a new factory or worse a warehouse.

[@JMiskovsky]

Finicial help for what? Beg me money for just allowing consttuction to happen?

[@austincline5648]

Lots of times small communities and townships really don’t have a choice in development. Especially factory/warehouse development. Big brother county and state see it as a money maker therefore they push things through. Meant towns and communities suffer bad infrastructure. Lack sewer and water services and deal with the unsightly view. They are left cleaning up the mess while someone else benefits. Therefore they very desperately need money to do so . As a township worker I’ve watched this first hand. Local county state and schools hit the jackpot but towns and townships. The ones that fix and repair everything get the shaft.

[@cafer12098]

Hyundai is probably the only company that can take Tesla head on. They have the tech, the customers and the robots (Boston Dynamics) to build efficiently.

[@yuxz339]

ever heard a company called BYD？😂

[@근육돌이밥이]

@@yuxz339 BYD is inferior to Hyundai in every possible way. Its domestic market is what boosted BYD's growth but it's already full no room to grow since China, although large population, doesn't have big market for EVs because of people's income compared to the US or other developed nations. BYD's growth mostly came from ones with LFP batteries, which is cheap but inferior. Plus Chinese cars are blocked from the US and EU. In Asia Japan and Korea have their own. So market for BYD is mostly limited to some Asian countries, Africa, and Eurasia. Chinese ban or boycott brands from other countries if it wants for no particular reason. Others can do the same...so keep dreaming.

[@근육돌이밥이]

@@yuxz339 Plus BYD has never been put to the test to the core. Many of BYDs in China exploded and its cars significantly drains energy depending on the whether condition. so Chinese has to beat Vietnamese cars first

[@GeDiceMan]

a Korean company building in america and creating jobs in america. Americans need to give South Korea a huge thank you for that!

[@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073]

​@@GeDiceManwhy thank you when they get subsidies from us?

[@paulgilliland2992]

Wastewater is simply the most complicated and expensive infrastructure to build . Every project I’ve on new projects for LADWP , MWD and Tillman plants . They take many years and very qualified people to construct.

[@DistrustHumanz]

Most Americans are ignorant of the fundamental necessity of water and sewer BEFORE building housing. The fact that they would build these houses prior to water and sewer solutions is mind-blowing.

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

It said in the video they were expanding the wastewater plant. And that can be recycled back into drinking water.

[@rameshpudhucode6862]

I didn’t know idiots who can’t comprehend are allowed to comment

[@TonyTrunzo]

Joe has a plan for you... THREADS

[@seanthe100]

You're just as ignorant if you really believe this is the case. I've worked in site development water and sewer are literally the first thing being built. Nothing would be approved if the water infrastructure couldn't withstand it.

[@Vincent_de_Paul]

*Americans are ignorant!* Instant thumbs up without verifying the accuracy 😂

[@stevemcgowen]

Staffing factories is a big problem in the USA. Before I left America where I lived- NE, Ohio, factories closed because they couldn’t get enough workers.

[@SoCalFreelance]

Hypocritical to complain about Chinese EV subsidies when looking at this.

[@Western_Decline]

Hypocrisy is the core of US foreign policy

[@shoopddawhooped]

Literally how geopolitics works, think China is telling citizens how great US is? Lol

[@doujinflip]

So you'd rather let the Chinese continue their dumping while we stop supporting our own industrial development?

[@SoCalFreelance]

@@doujinflip Where was your concern over the past 30 years as our middle class was eviscerated with jobs moving overseas?? Make no mistake, this is CORRECTIVE action addressing policy failure and elected official improprieties with corporate interests/money.

[@donaldclifford5763]

A race to the bottom.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

5:00 real estate agents are sales people. Let me say it again: REAL ESTATE AGENTS ARE SALES PEOPLE. They have one motive and it does not in any way benefit the people of these communities.

[@pjacobsen1000]

Doesn't the same apply for any person who sells things or services, including shop owners, restaurant owners, auto shop owners, lawn care workers, roofers, dentists? Just because their job is to sell doesn't mean they don't contribute to the local economy.

[@TheeRedBaron]

Real Estate agents deal in real estate and have better property knowledge than most people. The agent's statement on public water/sewer being an issue is right lol. Don't be so quick to hate.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

@@TheeRedBaron They absolutely do not. Public water/sewer are urban planning issues, and the people profiting on rapid fire building and growth should have literally zero input on planning. That would be like a car salesman telling engineers how to design a motor.

[@TheeRedBaron]

Knowledge and planning are two different things. Local municipals have master water/ sewer plans , developers pay to tie into this if they have a new build. Agents having factual knowledge of the plan and up coming developments as its public record or industry news. People who sell have knowledge in their field.

[@rhhrhejebag2774]

Yes, but year after year these developments remain stagnant. Because someone is smart doesn't mean that they're going to use it to benefit a community that they don't even live in. It is proven that single family developed neighborhoods do not recoup the cost of a single lifetime of maintenance, there for becoming a burden on the community and tax payers for as long as it's there. These developments bankrupt cities in the long term.@@TheeRedBaron

[@hardheadjarhead]

Americans have been complaining for decades about how jobs have gone overseas. Now that America is re-shoring factories and employing Americans, people are complaining? They wanted jobs. Now they’ve got jobs. They’re seeing their property values go up. American businesses in the region are going to benefit. You’re going to see growth, construction. That manager of that taco joint needs to not worry about people speaking Korean. He needs to shave, clean up his act, go next-door, and apply for a job at that plant. He’ll make more money. And there won’t be a “Korean invasion“. They’re not coming over here to take our jobs. They don’t have enough people to build plants over there, because their birth rate and population is crashing. This is a win-win for America and South Korea.

[@roddizon2242]

Thank You, Biden for all the Jobs you created, and bringing back the job in the US.

[@ronniemassart3834]

Sucker...........they are taking peoples land for starters

[@Matthew_Loutner]

Fake president Biden did not create ANY jobs. The UNITED STATES CONGRESS passes the laws in this land.

[@trekuhl3966]

Warehouse’s are the new retail stores. Continue to shop on line and the need for warehouse’s will continue. Savannah is not the only town; Elizabethtown KY, Bowling Green KY, Stanton TN, Jeffersonville OH, New Albany OH and a plethora of other towns are all experiencing unprecedented growth due the multi-billion dollar spend on high technology industrial manufacturing. Most of these towns have no clue what’s coming with the influx of direct and indirect jobs they bring. The infrastructure necessary to support not just the facilities, the restaurants, churches, schools and other businesses to support is incredibly high as well. Then look at the current job market with unemployment hovering at 3.5%. Plus there are double the available open positions vs those openly looking for an opportunity. HUGE challenges are ahead.

[@rhhrhejebag2774]

These communities will take the easy way out, and sprawl into oblivion. Whenever these factories leave, they'll be left with vacant suburban lots that are nothing but burdens on the tax payers.

[@timgiffard3524]

They can treat waste water on site and make it safer for sewage transport to the municipal plant. Most high impact industries in Missouri where I'm from get permitted by the state department of natural resources. Be supportive of your municipal district when they issue the effluent permit for Hyundai. That is one of the few yard sticks that keeps them environmentally responsible on the local level.

[@DaleBouwman]

In 25 years time, all these factories will close down amd they'll ship the work overseas again, and people will act like its a first time thing.

[@venitocamelo6704]

thats about 3 decades of prosperety , its better than nothing

[@johnj.baranski6553]

How? Ships rely on fossel fuels to sail. There is zero innovation in the maritime industry, so when fossil fuels run out in 25 years, nothing will be shipped.

[@Sam-tg4ii]

Industrialization's problems can be minimized with long term-oriented planning. But the net effect is massively positive. America needs to manufacture things again.

[@sabercruiser.7053]

Great reporting 👍👍👏👏

[@Hondoruslatin]

No, it’s not

[@scotsmanofnewengland7713]

While traveling from New England to Florida last month I noticed a lot of construction going on with the building of massive warehouses. Some are still empty from years ago when I went down to Florida. The only ones making money are the concrete companies and the contractors.

[@melikechoc0]

We need a more robust logistics system as well as a way to tackle the pollution that will inevitably come with factories.

[@craycray127]

Should have never been allowed to move manufacturing away from unionized labor in the 70's.

[@Dimaz42]

I'm curious whether the products cost could compete with other countries with cheaper labors and materials? 🤔

[@purpleWizard0]

Subsidies says yes.

[@Justin-l2j]

depends on import taxation

[@ronnieangeles]

Since the border is open, maybe.

[@joshn2342323]

Yes it is competitive because most large automakers are heavily automated. Many of these auto plants make hundreds of cars per day. The cost savings from making them domestically is worth the higher labor costs. Moving a car across the pacific on a ship is expensive.

[@SensationsRim]

Mexico is becoming the next manufacturing capital of the world. Costs are lower than China and it's nearby.

[@blackpepper6091]

We need more manufacturing back in the USA... wait not next to me! People are always complaining about something.

[@FLORIDAHOODVLOGS]

Koreans: lets bring jobs and growth to america Southern hicks: we wanna starve

[@guilhermetavares4705]

Factories are not the problem. The problem is the complete absence of public transport and the endless sprawl of the suburbs.

[@412StepUp]

Definitely

[@jamesmitch9792]

ok fine BIDEN 2024

[@lingth]

You want more "Made in America" so thats the price.

[@carlospcpro]

Car centric country. Car economy.

[@bwofficial1776]

And? We chose cars. Cars are convenient. My car can take me wherever I want to go, whenever and with whoever and whatever I want. I don't have to wait for the train or bus to come and share space with strangers. Technology moves on. First we had the horse and buggy, then we had trains, now we have cars.

[@shoopddawhooped]

This was decided for us in 1950s post-war boom, no going back now. Unless your Marty McFly and TimeCop.

[@carlospcpro]

@@shoopddawhooped what "going back" means to you?

[@DagaenGolomb]

@@bwofficial1776 Really? Most people in car dependent areas chose that infrastructure? Yes it's a "choice" but it comes with consequences and costs to avoid. Acting as if it's the complete willful choice of consumers is naive.

[@theodorbutters141]

@@bwofficial1776 you didn;t choose that... you had it forced on you like 90% of the country had and now your justifying wasting more money on bigger and bigger cars and houses as if that is going to make things any better for your finances...

[@alvarotorres9057]

I definitely have seen a lot of industrial activity in my city. Also, many of the factories in my town have hiring signs. Maybe I should check them out.

[@bigpirate7513]

So​ glad

[@TonyTrunzo]

Joe has a plan for you... THREADS

[@nickp1987]

Peter Zeihan: HEAVY BREATHING.

[@latymz]

Same thing is happening where I live. Lots of warehouses going up in various areas. Time will tell if it’s a bust.

[@mikemcconeghy4658]

I hate that the government is paying these guys to build. When it doesn't turn a profit, only the taxpayers will lose out.

[@texaswunderkind]

Manufacturers in Europe and Asia are heavily subsidized. It is the price of doing business. Trade agreements can address that, but Trump tore those up.

[@ARVINDYADAV-BHU_SOIL]

As i am Indian happy with this movement, to china adversary US must increase domestic production.

[@jmcasas17]

Definitely I agree. China must not be trusted.

[@peterclarke3020]

What about in the ‘Rust Belt’ areas - is there no plan to build any new industries there ?

[@Szcza04]

It boggles my mind since there is already infrastructure there to support these places.

[@SmileTribeNetwork]

Humans keep making mass transportation more complex, resource intensive, and convoluted. We all don't need vehicles for each individual. Ride your bicycle.

[@phoenix5054]

Xi Jinping is the best job creating president the US has ever seen!

[@davidshoemaker246]

Sounds like it never would have happened without massive government subsidies. That means it is unsustainable. EV market is collapsing everywhere and will continue to do so.

[@dlewis8405]

A big reason that all this investment is going into Georgia is because it is a right to work state. Hyundai doesn’t have to worry about the UAW crippling their operations like they are doing to Ford, GM, and Stellantis up north.

[@DotADBX]

Small businesses should be worried about big franchise businesses that will ended up being brought in to help supply the construction industry (home depos/walmarts/costcos etc) while these businesses are great to have in your community they more often then not end up killing local businesses. I highly recommend any locals with kids look into buying property as soon as possible so their kids will be able to afford a home by the time they reach adulthood.

[@Movingforward2000]

No one actually cares about local businesses. All that counts are the big players.

[@DotADBX]

@Movingforward2000 you should care because small businesses is what drives the economy of the USA not large businesses, they also carry a large portion of the tax burden which most large companies typically don't because they find novel ideas to skirt paying taxes all the time.

[@Movingforward2000]

@@DotADBX I dont live in the US so l dont care

[@cmw3737]

"Whoever puts the electric cars on the road first wins". First mover advantage is a big deal when it sets standards that others have to follow. Tesla already did that with the charging infrastructure. Rushing to production isn't going to help a great deal.

[@maalat]

Build multiple level with easy access to transportation … buses, trains, etc. avoid 1 hour drive on freeways mentality. Instead of individual residential lots, build medium high rise condos and leave the rest to nature, forests, meadows, creeks, etc,

[@RobbieLancelot]

Back in the days, factories would build houses for their workers, maybe something to consider today.

[@lattehour]

a 8500 direct employment leads to at least 30k additional jobs

[@dustinharris8057]

What happens when the factory shuts down and the corporation has taken all the profits and left the mess?

[@jcall412]

The rust built gives you an answer to that question, especially Youngstown, OH

[@agalpar]

Go and do the research in Pesquería Nuevo Leon of what is going to happen years later to this city. Kia the Hyundai's brother stablished a couple of years in Mexico and the factory truthly change the economy of this small city, even now is known as PesKorea.

[@Novideos00]

All this development and the accompanying growing pains are necessary for a level of significant global decoupling to occur. This decoupling will bring countries to a more sustainable equilibrium and will allow for countries to compete in the global market with the products they produce. Hopefully this competition will have a positive effect on prices and give the global consumer and countries more choice🤔

[@briankier2189]

Or they will have the opposite effect. Less choices and more authoritarian policies making everyone closer to serfs or slaves. I hope I am wrong but most likely I am right since the elites and corporations don’t want to share the wealth with the people who actually make it.

[@Bob-w2b8j]

This is true, we're so heavily reliant on outsourced manufacturing, that it's almost difficult to comprehend the scale of transformation that we would need to do to relocate even a fraction of that manufacturing to the U.S.

[@AnthonyLoflin-o5r]

The price... 33 TRILLION. That's the price.

[@yota4004]

more EV's that won't sell.

[@scottallison7127]

Are these people bitching about jobs coming back to america? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

[@venitocamelo6704]

yes they are

[@i6power30]

Acid rain is coming back to the US. It disappeared for a while when factories moved to China, then people complain about loss of jobs. Now factories come back, people will soon complain about polution. There is always something to complain about.

[@bwbchallenges]

Man, Americans complain about everything and u wonder what is supposed to be done. Factories are back to their country and they are complaining and when the Factories go overseas they say govt is selling their lives to Chinese😂

[@LisaDeerman]

Very informative. Thank you!

[@Iooxocc]

thank you Korea

[@Western_Decline]

better start learning Korean or Chinese

[@gold9994]

@@Western_Decline *and two is better than one.

[@santoshNarayana]

@@Western_Decline I guess I'm downloading the Duolingo app to learn Korean

[@KasunLokuliyana]

Make America Great Again

[@ppc7457]

make America great again !...

[@mike-sk2li]

I drive a semi truck. Trust me their are almost no factory's being built. America is to expensive to manufacture anything! What is being built is warehouses.

[@camadams9149]

"The Price of America’s New Factory Boom" We all learned the price of failing to do this during the pandemic. Turns out putting finance bros in charge of the economy was a mistake... who would have guessed

[@ssuwandi3240]

Jobama is FINANCE BTO?! 😂😂

[@frankgrabasse4642]

Why the south, no union =low pay and no rights. What about all the tax cuts these rich companies received? Side note the counties went up on people's taxes to cover this. It's a transfer of wealth to the rich. House prices will skyrocket going up on taxes even more. Punishing the elderly. Hyundai is notorious for low pay temp jobs.

[@vangelissotiropoulos7365]

Sure, let’s clear a few million trees to start making some “green” cars 🚗

[@pjacobsen1000]

Great idea!

[@miles5600]

@@pjacobsen1000you gotta be kidding 😂

[@miles5600]

Cars are not sustainable and they never will.

[@pjacobsen1000]

@@miles5600 Yes, I'm kidding.

[@nathanjustus6659]

Leave it to idiots…”we don’t need factories or jobs” while decrying thr loss of the middle class

[@PranicEnergy]

Too little, too late. Hyundai not exactly at the fore front of EVs. Their designs are getting better though. There will be plenty of money printing and subsidy here. GM is gone as far as EVs are concerned.

[@swimmerboy172]

lol, where are you getting that info. Everything I see is the Hyundai Ioniq 6 is literally the best electric car you can buy.

[@PranicEnergy]

It should be quite easy to copy the Korean styling. I wish Tesla would do that. It would be the Perfect Car for me. 😀.

[@근육돌이밥이]

@@swimmerboy172 This comment is probably from a Chinese. They are brainwashed by their government.

[@Bob-w2b8j]

The U.S. automakers are probably the worst overall, for sure, when it comes to the quality and innovation (or lack thereof) of their vehicles

[@kellyak18]

the proximity to Savannah's port makes this all possible. Raw materials still can be shipped in from overseas.

[@MrJackassz]

It was always big business that ruined every city/town in the end destroying the landscape, leaving abandoned buildings like in Chicago and so on.

[@lwad3128]

Wow, I feel like Americans are going to complain no matter what! They wanted 'Made in America' back and to stop sending business overseas, then complain about the business and manufacturing facilities coming to their town. You can't have it both ways, people!

[@mrspaceman2764]

With South Korea, Japan and Taiwan's demographic issues, the only option that makes sense, is to build where the consumers are.... The US is the biggest consumer market on the planet!

[@VarkeyChinnadan]

An admiration to Americans about financial burden taken up to combat climate change...

[@Bob-w2b8j]

It won't matter at all lol, the U.S. is 3rd now in carbon emissions behind China and India. Those countries are not going to have the same scruples when it comes to "green energy," and since we all live on the same planet, it doesn't really matter which country the emissions come from, we're attached to everyone else lol

[@PranicEnergy]

The truth is that US workers need to work for $10 to $20 per hour for its product to be competitive on the world stage. Simply because the US does not produce goods that are of significantly better quality than other countries. But are US workers willing to live the lifestyle of Asians?? So the money printing has to go on until the US becomes just another kid on the block.

[@PranicEnergy]

There's also lots of unpaid overtime in Asian countries.

[@wnklee6878]

@@PranicEnergy Asia is booming.

[@tHebUm18]

The US has a large auto market, I expect they will not be aiming to compete on the world market with this factory. They already have plenty of factories to do that--in South Korea for example.

[@farzana6676]

​@taichimaster6344 USA factories are not aiming to compete on the World market but only to sell to North America.

[@PranicEnergy]

@@farzana6676 , you have a lot to learn about trade and economics.

[@brucerawson-g6f]

I believe this is called: not in my back yard.

[@chrisoffersen]

Let’s see Southern USA do this right. You all sent mankind to the moon; I’d love to see you make life on our planet more livable.

[@carllelendt5452]

But you'll never hear of "America's Boom of High Quality Jobs." -Who needs that so long as we got a boom in factories..

[@tonieplacide-oy4xx]

Yes! bring the jobs back home

[@JanSuerth]

We want to be eco friendly but at the same time none of these factories even have a rail connection...

[@jctai100]

It's kind of funny from a business standpoint. Do they ever expect to sell to other parts of the world?

[@cinpeace353]

It is build for US consumers.

[@yummm8775]

Made in America for North American consumers (US and Canada). They save on car import taxes, shipping and regulatory hurdles. These companies are NOT going to spend billions if it doesn't benefit them financially - so nothing funny about it.

[@monkeyrun]

did bloomberg talk about the price of shipping american manufacturing jobs overseas to boost corporate profit?

[@crebbsjd]

Small towns will try to hold back the development of future cities until all the old time residents move away or pass on in life. They will fight it until they can no more. It's a shame to have a mindset so small that you do not allow the future to happen. I live in a big city and have lived/worked in these environments for decades now. Growing up in a small town and moving on in life to the big times. I have seen this first hand. The cities I worked and lived in were all blended together town after town all around the cities. It is one way of doing things. Many issues in the on and off ramps, ways in and out of the towns, and the overall cramped and poor planned out towns have to change. It has to be re done and redesigned. I think American cities should be constructed differently from the way they have in the past. Better layouts with the roads and trucking coming in and out. Wider roads and built with the focus of building the roads better. All upgraded infrastructure includes plumbing, drainage, waste water treatment, and all kinds of upgrades, or it remains to small and old fashioned to grow. A lot of the times, the ways in and out of these small towns are not ready for the needed upgrades to make it better. Change can be exciting and scary. You will never know how exciting life can be if you choose to never try out something new and exciting. You have to be willing to make choices in your life to go places you never thought you could. Tons and tons of money will have to poor in along with the vote from all the residents to agree on the change. People will have to sell land and houses. More affordable homes must be built. Not everyone wants to live to close and some prefer the easy access to downtown areas. Better mix of nice luxury apartments, town homes, kit homes, traditional homes, existing home that need upgrades and fixed up. All of that along with everything a bigger town will require. Schools, grocery stores, shops, parks, you name it. They will need to be willing to grow bigger and into a new beautiful city. All pipe dreams if just one company builds a $8 Billion plant and nothing else changes around it. Plus, I end with the stubborn residents holding back progress. I know that mindset. I grew up around it in a small town. Its the "hey did you hear a big new plant is popping up on the edge of our town?" And everyone is like well we dont want that here. At that rate, you will not get any progress towards a better future. That's the thing I will say. Everyone has to find the excitement in their lives and be willing to change and willing to work and build this country into the future. The mindset has to be there, or nothing will ever change.

[@skoo00]

The realtor should drive a Hyundai, not a Ford

[@jamesmitch9792]

remember when trump tried this with foxconn in Wisconsin? how did that worked?

[@cinpeace353]

Well, the subsidies shrinked. It is a different story. Now Biden is using bigger subsidies.

[@x12z12]

They sound alot like West Point, GA where the Kia plant is located. There was big excitement about growth and housing which did not come like everybody thought it would. Things are starting to grow after 15 years but it is slow.

[@Penny-ym1sg]

Factories are pouring into Mississippi. A lot of executives are moving here from the north to work. They love it. They build huge houses in the country and gated communities are sprouting up. They have lakes, fountains, and private golf courses. The industrial parks are in the country near rivers for shipping. They have stores, restaurants and regional airports! So there are factory workers, and highly paid executives. I think its great. They have their own little communities and dont interfere with the country culture. So far, there isnt traffic problems either because they have everything they need near their work.

[@guybeingaguy]

FACTS: ALL the profits will go to S Korea. Yes, the factory produces jobs and taxes. My girlfriend worked as a supervisor (briefly) in a US location owned and run by Japanese. It’s a different world, can these southerners adapt? Biden has allocated $9 billion for charging infrastructure. $12 billion for manufacturers to transition to EV. I think some grants for battery production too. Will these workers be union? Probably NOT. That changes the dynamic significantly. Not choosing a side but facts are facts.

[@freefox2909]

True, but all the overseas profits of American companies also usually come back too, that's just how capitalism works.

[@judileeming1589]

At last! Investment, higher employment and wages will restore America to its rightful place. Short sighted year on year profit increases that have driven jobs off shore or reduced income are the root of all the problems in America. Stabilising towns and cities across America will see crime and homelessness go down dramatically. Everyone must understand that with America manufacturing higher quality products and better wages comes higher prices, it’s inevitable, but this will put more money into local economies resulting in social stability.

[@michaelayeni177]

Keep it up Biden.

[@guardianoffire8814]

This won't work out as its dependent on the government subsidies. Unlike other countries which can pull off long term projects. Western democracies are like row boat with the two faction changing course in the case of the United States or in multiparty systems each faction paddling in opposite directions going in circles to nowwhere.

[@jameskelly3502]

@@guardianoffire8814 The fossil fuel industry has also become dependent on subsidies.

[@guardianoffire8814]

@@jameskelly3502 But the petroleum industry like corporate farms that grow corn to get corn subsidies have the decades of political influence to keep those subsidies going indefinitely.

[@ChatGPT1111]

Yeah keep reducing the value of existing dollars we all hold by printing more dollars so as to give them to foreign companies and illegal immigrants, making basic food and housing unaffordable for the average American.

[@donaldclifford5763]

@jameskelly3502 If you want to be carbon neutral you better subsidize a whole lot of nuclear.

[@dreadfuldonkey]

Somebody should build a carburetor manufacturer company that builds aftermarket carburetors for the carburetor cars that are already on the road. How about give them 100 miles to the gallon I’ll pay $10 a gallon for a fuel.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

And what is happening with all of this? ABSOLUTELY ZERO PUBLIC TRANSIT. Gold rush growth like this is horrible for communities. And it's happening in the south because of lazy, short sighted leadership.

[@williamdenton6317]

Since General Sherman marched across Georgia and left a swath of destruction, Georgia has never recovered from its plantation mentality. All of a sudden, the 21 st century shows up and the corn pone hits the fan.

[@AustinWyattPetersen]

They’ll all move back north in a decade when they’re sick of the heat domes and all of the hurricanes, and tornados destroying their homes with the cost to rebuild being enormous.