The Problem With Baiken.

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LordKnight

LordKnight

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@LordKnightfgc
@LordKnightfgc 3 ай бұрын
How are you feeling about Baiken this patch? (also pls subscribe)
@midnightassassin9486
@midnightassassin9486 3 ай бұрын
I am a big newb i dont even know what characters do in the game yet lmao. But i enjoyed playing baiken and gio are fun as heck to play.
@theradlada8026
@theradlada8026 3 ай бұрын
I don't care how dogshit she is, I will continue to play her
@theradlada8026
@theradlada8026 3 ай бұрын
I don't care where she falls on the tierlist. I will continue to play her
@copperCCSD
@copperCCSD 3 ай бұрын
“Thank god I can finally pressure this character when they have meter” …and other lies I tell myself to justify autopiloting into safejumps over and over against the parry character (nothing will change) (i refuse to learn any matchups) (i will complain about her offense on twitter, despite playing sol) (her boobs are distracting me and giving the other player an unfair advantage and that’s the only explanation for how ive ever lost to a baiken) (arcsys pls nerf her again it’ll be funny)
@ExecutionerThel
@ExecutionerThel 3 ай бұрын
still very fun but yes I think Baiken needs some help next patch
@k-ondoomer
@k-ondoomer 3 ай бұрын
Baiken so good at parry she parried buffs and ate the nerf
@fadingdecay
@fadingdecay 3 ай бұрын
Close enough, welcome to the Zato family
@trinitygsaint2383
@trinitygsaint2383 3 ай бұрын
Nerf zato cage Eddie
@LordKnightfgc
@LordKnightfgc 3 ай бұрын
Pep gave me a seat at the table 🥹
@Creepo_J
@Creepo_J 3 ай бұрын
​@@trinitygsaint2383 There's no longer even a character existing that can be nerfed further
@AlienX281
@AlienX281 3 ай бұрын
Me when patch notes ​@@Creepo_J
@theambassador2527
@theambassador2527 3 ай бұрын
@@trinitygsaint2383imprison Eddie gang strikes baxk
@despicableree58
@despicableree58 3 ай бұрын
When I saw the lack of Baiken changes, I Vanished Into Dark.
@Malacai087
@Malacai087 3 ай бұрын
Vanish into DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRK
@vagetaintherain5595
@vagetaintherain5595 3 ай бұрын
Future now and past
@phylaxinator7040
@phylaxinator7040 3 ай бұрын
@@vagetaintherain5595 VANISH INTO *DAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRKK*
@bulb9970
@bulb9970 3 ай бұрын
@@phylaxinator7040 When it all mixes up
@yamnbam4346
@yamnbam4346 3 ай бұрын
@@bulb9970DROWNED IN PAIN I LOST MY MIND THERES NO GOOD OR BAD IN THERE
@UltraThroatKick
@UltraThroatKick 3 ай бұрын
Stay strong Baiken bros, Daisuke is trying to force us to play with both hands but we must resist
@NemSumeragi
@NemSumeragi 3 ай бұрын
They saw you beat Tiger Pop and almost beat Leffen at Frosty so they were like "yeah Baiken can wait for October" Lets ignore the fact that Johnny won the AWT tournament in Brazil
@Gnolle082
@Gnolle082 3 ай бұрын
Time to join the unga crew LK, embrace the words of the great Sanford Kelly, “Pick a top-tier.”
@LordKnightfgc
@LordKnightfgc 3 ай бұрын
🐬
@Gnolle082
@Gnolle082 3 ай бұрын
@@LordKnightfgc Hit em with those dolphins, NA Guilty Gear needs to know...
@ivanayala2715
@ivanayala2715 3 ай бұрын
​@@LordKnightfgc evil
@chariotrequiem5465
@chariotrequiem5465 3 ай бұрын
@@LordKnightfgcLK please don’t join them😢
@mcgoldenblade4765
@mcgoldenblade4765 3 ай бұрын
I think the issue was that people weren't really starting to bring to light Baiken's major weaknesses until pretty recently. For the vast majority of Season 3 lots of people were calling Baiken a mid tier character with good strengths and exploitable weaknesses. For me, the first time I ever heard anyone suggest that she was Low Tier was only a few weeks before the most recent patch dropped. So I really think this is a case of the devs not realizing there's a problem in the first place, since everybody was primarily complaining about WWA, as well as the characters that would get buffed in the most recent patch.
@muckdriver
@muckdriver 3 ай бұрын
For being 3 years in they really should have an understanding of the game down. Capcom got their game nailed almost perfectly apart from preference gripes(what you think SF should have i.e. sprint in halo convo but for SF type of things) within the first year and their weird idea of letting meta settle for a year. Arcsys games have so much silly technical stuff you think they'd have learned after all these year. Even tekken team who is notorious for having weirdly bad balance decisions have grasped T8 a wildly different game from T7(specifically 7) really quickly(though they could do with some more adjustments but nothing like all leroy top 8 oppressive atm) Hearing about Zato being so weak threw me for a loop too cause I heard it for so long. Hope Y4 is better for the low and mid tier players.
@jadesapphira4325
@jadesapphira4325 3 ай бұрын
I wish tatami blocked projectiles better. It's supposed to stuff projectles from frame 15 to frame 30, but the whole move is 48 frames so you still wait 18 frames to push back against zoning or 33 frames if done at it's earliest, and by then the opponent can just send out another projectile. I would like it if blocking the projectile with tatami cancels the recovery at the expense of no tatami late hit. The projectile nullifying already ends as soon as the 2nd hit of tatami is active so it wouldnt be that hard and the tatami already has a broken animation if you're hit during it.
@LordKnightfgc
@LordKnightfgc 3 ай бұрын
It's really good in some match ups to be fair, like Testament and Zato
@beatrix4519
@beatrix4519 3 ай бұрын
I keep seeing people say the new move she needs is parry follow ups and while I agree that would help, especially after taking parry rc from us I think she could really benefit from suzuran a forward moving command dash with a guard point and follow ups? it would fix her. it would fix her.
@zachstarattack7320
@zachstarattack7320 3 ай бұрын
you aren't getting a new move. New moves are for the launch cast only
@beatrix4519
@beatrix4519 3 ай бұрын
@@zachstarattack7320 idk man, people have been endlessly talking about baiken needing a new move I know arcsys listens to the community and has probably considered the idea is it unrealistic? maybe, but you're just being a butt trying to take our hope away
@zachstarattack7320
@zachstarattack7320 3 ай бұрын
@@beatrix4519 "just being a butt"? Hahah. Like arcsys is going to give the DLC they made relatively recently a new move. It took so much crying just for the launch cast to get a new move and we still haven't gotten all of 'em. Baiken's never geting a new move
@Storse
@Storse 3 ай бұрын
​@@zachstarattack7320dlc they made recently? It's been 3 years
@thrakatak2645
@thrakatak2645 3 ай бұрын
@@zachstarattack7320 Mental illness. I don't know what else to say.
@UNSPECIFIEDBANANA
@UNSPECIFIEDBANANA 3 ай бұрын
I hope the hiiragi RC nerf is because they're preparing to give her suzuran as her next special move 🥲
@waluigimourner8071
@waluigimourner8071 3 ай бұрын
We can only hope
@Mr.Faust3
@Mr.Faust3 3 ай бұрын
Who knows maybe they'll give her follow ups on parry
@zeroth88
@zeroth88 3 ай бұрын
I'm hoping. It'd be awesome. Probably unlikely
@iceink
@iceink 3 ай бұрын
they wont
@jimmyboyj2
@jimmyboyj2 3 ай бұрын
please, i at least need them to change the animation to suzuran's bc it's so much cooler
@remuvs
@remuvs 3 ай бұрын
The last patch was so bad for Baiken that we were thrown into the timeline of LK maining May...
@dragonologist7966
@dragonologist7966 3 ай бұрын
i switched to play testament after the patch and it feels like night and day to get conversions without having to use rc to get decent damage
@arachnofiend2859
@arachnofiend2859 3 ай бұрын
In fairness Testament's conversion ability used to equally horrendous until they spent like three patches in a row improving it lol
@kbgrevolver4563
@kbgrevolver4563 3 ай бұрын
Spot on. Baiken is falling behind. All arcsys wants from Baiken currently is her tether and mix. Everything else is just kinda blegh now.
@kyleflournoy7730
@kyleflournoy7730 3 ай бұрын
Basicall what I gathered here is that all they need to fix baiken is bump up counter damage and make far slash vacuum people in instead of push them away
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327 3 ай бұрын
Bro that’d be busted easy top teir
@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero
@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero 3 ай бұрын
@@ŹØŘĄĶ1327 what level are you?
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327 3 ай бұрын
@@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero 90 with Baiken, 88 with gio, 80 with millia, I think like 60 with zato but that was pre nerfs
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327 3 ай бұрын
Dropped him off
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327 3 ай бұрын
@@kyleflournoy7730 reason why I’m saying is shit like s>hs>41236S at the corner even more consistent which is just a free kabari and can be combo into from a 5k 2d tatami mixup
@KlyosXA
@KlyosXA 3 ай бұрын
What I would like to see: * Improved Parry. Since it lost its damage and STILL has poor options outside of close range, normal parry tethers the Opponent. Since Parry resets neutral after the throw, being tethered puts fear into the Opponent. New distance parry option. Instead of the crappy guard crush animation that resets neutral. You should be awarded for reacting to the Opponent within 6 frames at a distance. Make parry outside throw range allow Baiken to do the H Kabari followup (the dash attack) limitations of the move apply. * New special move. When tethered to Opponent, you can detonate the bell by pressing the input (air ok) it will launch the Opponent like Tatami does. If not that, then bring back her Suzuran (Guard dash) from Rev 2. Follow ups are: P--canceles into Hiiragi (parry) this version has 11 active frames, Leo's has 17, relax. K--cancels into Mawarikomi, a strike invulnerable step. Can be thrown out of this. S--Cancels into Tetsuzansen the Kabari followup from Rev 2. Launches on hit. HS--cancels into HS Kabari follow up slash
@pian-0g445
@pian-0g445 3 ай бұрын
Long distance party should have higher punish potential like you said, considering if you guess wrong, it’s a lot easier for the opponent to punish you party. High risk, high reward. Especially considering how little pressure her close party has anyways. At most, all it does is make you lose Oki.
@sladevalen
@sladevalen 3 ай бұрын
Hell no.
@ChiloeYOMIH
@ChiloeYOMIH 3 ай бұрын
Tether on Parry is diabolical, giving a tether on a defensive option that does throw damage, and returns to neutral
@ix_9_ix
@ix_9_ix 3 ай бұрын
Welcome to zato's life since s3
@Cyb3rN3t1x
@Cyb3rN3t1x 3 ай бұрын
She's been like this all of s3 as well. It's just nobody wanted to hear it before and everyone else kept getting buffed to where it's blatantly apparent to people who don't even play her now
@yeahey5947
@yeahey5947 3 ай бұрын
the thing is zato players deserve a low tier
@KingKayEyeDee
@KingKayEyeDee 3 ай бұрын
The problem with Baiken is that she isn't sitting on my face rn
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 3 ай бұрын
She do be sitting next to Zato on the tier list, though.
@vitorvasconcelos4708
@vitorvasconcelos4708 3 ай бұрын
I second that
@kaihimura3897
@kaihimura3897 3 ай бұрын
Based and Baiken pilled.
@Ferrari255GTO
@Ferrari255GTO 3 ай бұрын
Anji is coming, you cannot run, you cannot hide, and most importantly, you can't defend yourself
@johnysimps1191
@johnysimps1191 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for answering the question to the title in the firsr 7 seconds bruh. I know it's probably smarter to keep baiting us just to drop the answer at the end on some "in conclusion" shit but i personally prefer a hypothesis into it's explanation
@certifiedtrash3152
@certifiedtrash3152 3 ай бұрын
Don't worry she can always be nerfed in season 4
@GreekSpartan1900
@GreekSpartan1900 3 ай бұрын
Baiken is my fav but her ability to convert hits into combos didn’t hurt as much on release since other characters suffered from this too. But watching them improve characters ability to combo with changing properties of normals, new moves or the addition of wild assault it doesn’t feel great to play her. I have been hoping for some of that love to come Baikens way for a long time. I have almost no hope of it coming but I will still play her and suffer.
@ProfWeeb248
@ProfWeeb248 3 ай бұрын
I really just started playing regularly - I'm only Floor 6 and still trying to drill in the discipline to not get caught mashing so often and chain in proper combos smoothly. Baiken's my main because she's been my absolute favorite GG character for ages now so I don't plan on dropping her at all, but she really does just catch a lot of strays in the patches, huh? Anyway, I wanted to thank you because watching your videos and gameplay have been a huge help in slowly improving my own play. Hopefully Baiken sees some love soon.
@Kobi_Wan_Canobi7624
@Kobi_Wan_Canobi7624 3 ай бұрын
Maybe one day she will show her full unfiltered potential😔, one day…
@justv7536
@justv7536 3 ай бұрын
Patch notes: "Baiken's been subpar for a while now, so to balance her we've decided to shoot her in her other arm."
@wizdom_cracked8976
@wizdom_cracked8976 3 ай бұрын
I main(ed?) Nago and also learned all the heavies except for bedman, just started playing her recently and think she’s really fun. I’m about two weeks in and I personally wish she’d make her more consistent and less reliant on gambling. Either that or give her better reward on being right. I feel like most of her offense only gets reward of certain things, for example using her lows for mixup doesn’t seem very rewarding and her cancel options are pretty bad when she’s right up in their face. Alao I feel like most her mixups only work in specific situations. When good plays actually lab defensive options agents her setups I feel like everything is kinda fake. I really enjoy her defensive gameplay though, prob keep playing her for now. (P.S. play more Baiken on stream I need to steal your tec)
@iskander0725
@iskander0725 3 ай бұрын
Imagine being me, opening up YT, sees the brand new LK video on top of my feed, immediately gets a notification of the very same brand new LK video. KZbin was gunning to get me to watch you this evening, LK. I was planning on watching anyway. Just had to laugh about that and share. Have a good night, bud.
@KageXIII
@KageXIII 3 ай бұрын
I remember watching you playing may on your birthday and the light had returned to your smile
@Mr.Faust3
@Mr.Faust3 3 ай бұрын
More fucking no skill slam curse slam backdash bang bang bang oh I run up bang bang and my char can do nothing but predict it from the Mayan period and pray they forgot baiken is in the game Losing it ATM time to drink, I will continue to just be superior I guess
@Malacai087
@Malacai087 3 ай бұрын
Is that THE mr faust???
@Mr.Faust3
@Mr.Faust3 3 ай бұрын
@Malacai087 what's good man you liking this patch or nah
@Malacai087
@Malacai087 3 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Faust3 Its a great patch, it still hurts to see DPRC go as a Ky player but I understand it had to be done, Plus the WWA nerfs greatly overshadow that .
@nintendowonder
@nintendowonder 3 ай бұрын
Something cool they could do is kinda like what they did with Bedman and have ground tatami vacuum on hit, or if they wanna be fancy have the outer hitbox of it vacuum like a sweet spot. Also being able to dash cancel the far away parry when they are guard crushed would be nice reward
@Shurmash
@Shurmash 3 ай бұрын
A vacuum on tatami hit is a great idea actually.
@nintendowonder
@nintendowonder Ай бұрын
@@ShurmashTHEY DID MY DASH PARRY IDEA LETS GOOOO
@ragnarokpuppy398
@ragnarokpuppy398 3 ай бұрын
Personality for me, i would love to see some changes to kabari where it pulls more, and the recov is improved so you can do some strike throw mixups on it, allowing her to stay in range more
@Storse
@Storse 3 ай бұрын
Make it plus on block like the old games
@alexisc.7887
@alexisc.7887 3 ай бұрын
I legitimately think most of the issues with Baiken could be fixed by just bringing back Suzuran with at least 2 of its follow ups. This sole move would both give her a solid neutral skip/tool to fight projectiles and better mid screen conversions.
@isaiahtheprophet_1
@isaiahtheprophet_1 3 ай бұрын
Just got guilty gear cuz it was on sale and bought the season 1 pass to play Baiken only to see this video imma play her regardless but dang thats crazy
@H1_R3Z
@H1_R3Z 3 ай бұрын
Considering that parry is pretty much her one unique tool to give her a real identity in this game, I think they could've strengthened that identity a lot by just letting her keep the ability the rc parry on hit. She's supposed to be this defensive character that kills the opponent for being too aggressive, and making her the only character in the game that can get real combos off of a meterless reversal would've really hit that point home. She'd still need some work, but it'd at least give a reason to want to play her over other characters that play defensive mid-range neutral better than her, like Ky or Ram.
@menacezeroneutral
@menacezeroneutral 3 ай бұрын
Honestly playing Baiken I feel like I have to get Lucky every time in terms of guessing. People playing something like sol, Hc, New bedman only have to get Lucky once.
@monadoartist
@monadoartist 3 ай бұрын
This video ironically enough kinda sold me on Baiken, if she gets some help next patch to make her easier or like she gets another defensive parry type move I might give her a go. I really like the idea that she excels in defense and is MEANT to, like her character identity is that. I really like parries, and I think that stems from the great feeling you get from reading the opponent. So having someone who is meant to have an edge in those reads and get reward off of it sounds really cool.
@SamuraiGhost63
@SamuraiGhost63 29 күн бұрын
OMG I'm a Potemkin main and trying her out and losing so much watching you is helping me understand her more
@medjaimcgraw5632
@medjaimcgraw5632 3 ай бұрын
She got hit with the Yamcha treatment...
@salreishope
@salreishope 3 ай бұрын
glad to see someone else misses wild assault hard knock down post wallbreak. i play potemkin btw i was the one getting snowballed, not doing the snowballing, and i still really miss it. it feels like wild assault doesn't have its main use anymore (since i don't play an orange wild assault character).
@hcaelBBleach
@hcaelBBleach 3 ай бұрын
Didnt play Millia on release bc she didnt feel strong. Thought id wait allllll the way up until now. Sad to see Baiken dying from Arcys Nerd hammer.
@Apocrypha135
@Apocrypha135 3 ай бұрын
Rocking the Momohime mod color for Baiken, I see. Good man.
@cylondorado4582
@cylondorado4582 3 ай бұрын
I was halfway wanting to get back into it because of Dizzy coming out, but now I’m not so sure. I was put off a LONG time ago when Diaphone animated putting I-no and Baiken in the dumpster (I-no was my main at the time, and I was interested in Baiken who was newly added). I know LK has been doing well with her lately, but then suddenly there’s a big nerf just as I’m thinking about the game again. And I haven’t played since before Wild assault was a thing, and I’ve seen a lot of people say they don’t love it.
@sladevalen
@sladevalen 3 ай бұрын
The nerf is not big at all. 95% of baiken players will not feel the effects of the nerf
@sopadefideos5636
@sopadefideos5636 3 ай бұрын
They have nerfed wild assault too, now it's good
@TimberlyPL
@TimberlyPL 3 ай бұрын
@@sladevalen don't need to, she still needs to do 200% of the work top tiers do to get the same result, wanna take may as an example? her easiest wallbreak combo starting with c.s deals like 50 more damage and is crazy easy to do
@The_Acorn-m2q
@The_Acorn-m2q 3 ай бұрын
Baiken came down with Zato syndrome 😂
@wheetthiins
@wheetthiins 3 ай бұрын
i picked up this game recently and im still learning a lot of stuff with baiken. still enjoying her a lot
@espelhogamer
@espelhogamer 3 ай бұрын
I mained Baiken in every GG and only played season 1 and 2. Was considering getting back to the game and then this video pops up on my feed😅
@ChibiRuah
@ChibiRuah 3 ай бұрын
So I main baiken and I say she is not in a strong place but I still enjoy playing her. She still fun to play and get mixups
@zore5872
@zore5872 3 ай бұрын
Give Tatami air some more hitstun and tatami ground less blowback and higher launch Heavy can have her step forward And sword attacks can beat some projectiles Parry can launch or increase damage The follow up slash through can be its own move with slightly different properties such as projectile invol And if held is just a quick dash that you can only be grabed out of 6p can be jumped and dash canceled and has more hitstun so it combos on normal hit
@NoolaGaming-noolr
@NoolaGaming-noolr 3 ай бұрын
Currently learning Baiken right now and I’m finding her a bit hard but really fun! Hopefully she gets better soon…
@lapsiluco
@lapsiluco 3 ай бұрын
I heard the faintest xenoblade 3 menu music in the background am I going insane or is it really there
@dragonzbw
@dragonzbw 3 ай бұрын
Holy shit it really is
@shaan__real
@shaan__real 3 ай бұрын
Ive never really realized these problems with baiken. Even as a main i had a lot more hope for the character but i might have to accept the bottom 3 status now
@dontheshui8178
@dontheshui8178 3 ай бұрын
I agree that baiken needs another opton at first i just wanted a diagonal snatch kabari off the light button or turning her 6p into a further poke but as for special moves to add If its more conversion tools i think Baku should be re introduces maybe with less effectiv times or different properties to fit strive but she may turn into anji if thats the case, the other is bring her azami back and increasing her defensive/ come int the hiten mitsurugi range gameplay so when u have her on the back foot shes more of a cornered beast then just a blocker. i feel like it would liven up her gameplay. and i feel like a perfect parry azami should create a projuctile deflect which then gives her that skill cealing and options i think she, in my opinion, was missing with her gameplay... IE everyone felt like they hade 6 or 7 options with specials and they gave her 2 with big damage(that they later neffed) so yea bring back Baiken the defense goddess.
@ProxyFox45
@ProxyFox45 3 ай бұрын
Baiken feels good as as she always has but sometimes a dark presence possesses me and I am tempted to pick up Slayer Also I totally get the Baiken should win tier. I loathe fighting Bridget because it feels like she plays really well just out of Baiken’s range.
@BurningWaterpark
@BurningWaterpark 3 ай бұрын
I love this patch i-no gets to reliably wall slump without them building burst immediately
@shinygekkouga52
@shinygekkouga52 3 ай бұрын
It’s time: Arcsys!give her Baku!
@wyobero
@wyobero 2 ай бұрын
For the combo you did at 1:52 I’m having trouble after my rc cancel into heavy. The problem is it’s not letting me jump s after. Any tips?
@tacticaltaco8626
@tacticaltaco8626 6 күн бұрын
You have to do a normal jump youzansen. You can do 8236S but you have to be fast and consistent with the input or hold down "2" then do 369S. Personally I like to run and hold down 2 then do 369S (i know I'm a month late but hope this helps)
@rasifurefodi8306
@rasifurefodi8306 3 ай бұрын
B(aiken)ottom 2 Sadge
@unamusedrohan1666
@unamusedrohan1666 3 ай бұрын
If she had more ways to apply tether on knockdown or as a combo ender, I feel like she would perform better most of the time. Right now I think I've only seen one meaty Skabari setup.
@alphaghoul6842
@alphaghoul6842 3 ай бұрын
What did they do to my Baiken!? 😤
@SSShun_70
@SSShun_70 3 ай бұрын
Zato players : first time?
@ivanayala2715
@ivanayala2715 3 ай бұрын
At this point they should give her massive buffs, shes supposed to be defensive but also has low health, even with guts is more fragile than other gorilas If they just let her actually convert, buff counter framedata(make it be more defining, like Anji spin) and give her another solid defensive tool shes gonna be solid asf
@TrueDemonDragon
@TrueDemonDragon 3 ай бұрын
"this is cool but not really what they needed" me back and the first couple rounds of anji changes then they just hit me with the "f it we ball" and slowly but changed the whole character
@terry5183
@terry5183 3 ай бұрын
Havent played in a year snd just coming back to the game today since i heard they teleased slayer and aba under my hiatus. Baiken was one of my favs beside Leo and Gio. Mark my words, my wife does not need buffs to still be my favorite.
@icekiller1594
@icekiller1594 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the "oh Johnny we're reaaaaaaaally in it now" now meme
@Kibotsu.squiggle
@Kibotsu.squiggle 3 ай бұрын
"She is powercrept" Axl: "First time?"
@kaihimura3897
@kaihimura3897 3 ай бұрын
Hard agree. I've been talking about these things over the years. However people always thought I was downplaying/just a scrub. Nothing really changes until ArcSys decides to make a solid change for her though. GGST has been in a very weird spot for me over the years. There is a lot of things I'd like changed but I'm a nobody so just gotta take what I get, I guess.
@Shurmash
@Shurmash 3 ай бұрын
Tatami should vacuum on hit, bring back suzuran, and bring back her rising diagonal kabari. All of those things would give her much better options.
@JackTheRustler1332
@JackTheRustler1332 3 ай бұрын
Lordknight is so good at breaking game mechanics down in a simple way that I'll watch his videos on games I don't even play lol
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327
@ŹØŘĄĶ1327 3 ай бұрын
As a Baiken main I must say This charecter is insane. Free oki, free aproach, slightly worse disadvantage bc parry, insane air to air, insane 196 no meter combos that don’t even require wild assault or even counter hit. Corner game is phenomenal. This charecter is busted fam
@LordKnightfgc
@LordKnightfgc 3 ай бұрын
enter a super major with her, my best result is 5th. good luck! :)
@Storse
@Storse 3 ай бұрын
floor 6 be like:
@somedude8728
@somedude8728 3 ай бұрын
"free approach" with what bro-
@tomfoolery8419
@tomfoolery8419 Ай бұрын
Nope, I agree with winty. Strive Baiken is one of the worse characters in fgc history and should be studied IMO. Baiken has: - No winning matchups - No good normals - No good air normals - No good specials - No plus on block meterless mixups - No damage - No oki - No reaction check pressure resets - Terrible with meter - Easiest mixups in the game to react to - No safejumps - Wild Assault is dogwater on her, and doesn't lead to wincon - One of the worse throws in the game - Zero defensive options It should be celebrated when a Baiken manages to take a round.
@somedude8728
@somedude8728 Ай бұрын
@@tomfoolery8419 I think the air normals are fine(j.k is awful is all), and wild assault does let her convert off long ranged 2H but like.. she should be able to convert it anyway without needing 50% burst. everything else is pretty much right Edit: She does have a decent safejump with IAD tatami
@d4cheartbeam
@d4cheartbeam 3 ай бұрын
Wanting compensation for parry rc being removed is crazy
@daikoooo
@daikoooo 3 ай бұрын
Parry rc was so insanely broken im glad its gone. You would bait parry and they were still able to rc a completely whiffed reversal.
@ayojunya
@ayojunya 3 ай бұрын
you say that when sol got compensation and THEN SOME for DPRC being removed
@somedude2221
@somedude2221 3 ай бұрын
To be fair Baiken first got nerfed parry DMG because of parry rc, and then remover parry rc without reverting the damage nerf
@spookywackydinosaur5919
@spookywackydinosaur5919 3 ай бұрын
A lot of Baiken issues were basically the same issues that bedman? pre-patch had without a unreactable overhead but a way better 6p. Conversion was such a problem for bedman and consistency (and even now sometimes 6h and the j.s) just doesn’t work the way it should which is why im insanely confused on why they addressed bedman but left baiken really untouched
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo 3 ай бұрын
Because Bedman couldn't even do a basic bnb without potentially dropping and dying because spin and S buttons were absolutely awful. Not to mention a way worse mix due to slow jump. Let's put it this way, when Bedman and Baiken shared problems, Bed was bottom 3 while Baiken was mid. Bed got the buffs because Bed needed them.
@GlitchanBlack
@GlitchanBlack 3 ай бұрын
Never took you for a Mario & Luigi fan, LordKnight!
@ChibiRuah
@ChibiRuah 3 ай бұрын
So as an average baiken player, the nerf to parry feels depressing. I get that it’s to be more inline with dp but like it’s kind of silly to me as it just shift parry prc to parry super prc which really is just painful to execution for me even to try, while losing rrc feels like parry is not very rewarding to hit. It’s also annoying as baiken parry was praised as a great defensive option but now it feels like a big gamble and it loses to fireball set ups. And just overall I feel with baiken, I can never allow my turn to end against anyone with ok zoning as getting in feels tricky. Overall I feel it annoying but it’s a “that is just how the game is right now”. I want to win with baiken so that just how be
@taylorgarcia9365
@taylorgarcia9365 3 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this. I love you Lord Knight. Hope May will give you peace. l
@jasonslade6259
@jasonslade6259 3 ай бұрын
The core design problem for the devs is that I don't think they want her to be able to run her Kabari -> H safe jump 50/50's off of every time she touches you. Giving her a new special move that's fast on startup and knocks down but gives her a mediocre knockdown makes the most sense.
@thedanish5523
@thedanish5523 3 ай бұрын
Sorry about Baiken, but I'm hyped to see you cook with a strong character like May.
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u 3 ай бұрын
Make far slash vacuum on hit and block. seems fun.
@Shione_Starlight
@Shione_Starlight 3 ай бұрын
They gave Testament easier 2S conversions but couldn't let baiken combo off 5S lol. She should have kept her RC from parry imo. It would make her a unique defensive character compared to the other people with a DP if they arent gonna give her more combo conversions.
@lamewjosephchavis8708
@lamewjosephchavis8708 Ай бұрын
They should give Baiken everything they took from her. Original Yosanzen H. Kabari counter attack stagger. RC after parry. Somebody on ArcSys really hates Baiken, or whoever thought of bringing her to Strive... and that sucks
@Beans-do6wc
@Beans-do6wc 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully they give her her old follow ups or something when she gets her new move. But thats going to be a long time from now
@mehoyminoy3377
@mehoyminoy3377 2 ай бұрын
The clacks are almost therapeutic at this point lmao
@OmegaNitro
@OmegaNitro 3 ай бұрын
They should give her back her guard point run and followups from Xrd.
@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero
@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero 3 ай бұрын
They'll nerf Baiken but refuse to touch leo chaos and nago. Someone needs to teach arcsystem what a BALANCE patch is
@AlphiAsakura
@AlphiAsakura 3 ай бұрын
Was on the fence about playing Baiken & maining her, but after this vid I’m not entirely sure. Character crisis is still going.
@williamakaholla
@williamakaholla 3 ай бұрын
Am I dooming?!
@pablogarcia4911
@pablogarcia4911 3 ай бұрын
Man I worked so hard on my parry RRC combos and they just simply took them away 😢
@coolfish420
@coolfish420 3 ай бұрын
I've been following you for a while and heard your opinions on Strive, and I know you think having good conversions is important. You've also talked about how dominant big bodies are. I guess I'm confused why you didn't land on someone like Nago when you consistently rate him very high. Do you like the mobility of someone like May instead?
@LordKnightfgc
@LordKnightfgc 3 ай бұрын
May basically fights what annoys me about the game atm very well. Also, she doesn't have NA presence, so it's a competitive advantage + I can help people prepare for international events, where she's more of a factor. She also has never been lower than high tier, and has a defensive play style that suits me. Pretty safe pick imo
@coolfish420
@coolfish420 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply! That makes a lot of sense
@astralsycik
@astralsycik 3 ай бұрын
What’s the difference between the different wild assaults?
@LordKnightfgc
@LordKnightfgc 3 ай бұрын
Red - fast and good for combos, you can combo off far pokes like 2s and far slash White - invincible on frame 9. Used to advantage, now is -3 guard crush Blue is same speed as white, but with frame advantage. It's not that great for combos, but let's you set up mix ups/get resources if you make the opponent block it
@randymandy1351
@randymandy1351 3 ай бұрын
ok maybe this is a scrub take but i think if they let h kab kara into follow up like chipp or anji it could help round her out in terms of combos. it would be faster probably than h kab 1 so it would off far slash. she got the nerf to the follow up counter hit so i don’t see why this would be unfair
@Amaling
@Amaling 3 ай бұрын
Yeah this patch is worse than I thought for Baiken, Zato Axl Testament all getting buffed is a big deal. Axl and Testament at least are reasonable meta threats and I would assume hard matchups?
@AtomicRiftYT
@AtomicRiftYT 3 ай бұрын
Certainly this can only mean one thing: Baiken is getting majorly buffed in October so they didn't want to give her any minor changes this patch
@Crime_Arc
@Crime_Arc 3 ай бұрын
Season 1 DLC should've also gotten new moves, honestly
@unnoticed9988
@unnoticed9988 3 ай бұрын
Off topic but LK your skin is looking good as hell man wtf
@nicknick_nick
@nicknick_nick Ай бұрын
Bring back the on block counters and she will be in her own tier...
@Pyro_Vortex
@Pyro_Vortex 3 ай бұрын
Me personally I'm perfectly fine with Baiken becoming a low tier. I love playing as low tier characters, that way people can't complain about me winning with a broken character. Plus the euphoria I get when winning with a "bad" is amazing.
@jackreynolds9183
@jackreynolds9183 3 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this one 😆
@Kollieprime9
@Kollieprime9 3 ай бұрын
The power with Baiken is Arc System Works
@shinywhimsicott3047
@shinywhimsicott3047 3 ай бұрын
Maybe she should stop pulling an Oro and just use her other arm already! .... Ohh.. oh no.
@sunnydartz8697
@sunnydartz8697 3 ай бұрын
Winty gonna love this one
@asrieldreemurr1918
@asrieldreemurr1918 3 ай бұрын
I honestly didn’t like it the tether move anyway I would have rather have had xrd baiken
@CircleofHorns
@CircleofHorns 3 ай бұрын
Let her pull off that eyepatch and use a Dragon Install :3
@Nyagro
@Nyagro 3 ай бұрын
I'm still of the opinion that WA as a mechanic was bad for the game. Not only were Red and White disproportionally better, aside from balance, it also made conversions and pressure very flowcharty and sameish for most characters. On that note, I wouldn't be a fan of Baiken getting better conversion if if we assume she'd be better off balance wise. Strive already got rid of so many unique and legacy mechanics (which again, were often better for balance) but made the cast feel more homogenized, especially as a spectator. Same goes for DP RC being a thing of the past now.
@bovid2750
@bovid2750 3 ай бұрын
we need more chars with a wierd/underwhelming step 1 and then go insane in step 2
@shiina4826
@shiina4826 3 ай бұрын
this is what ive been waiting for
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