The Problem with Kickstarters... - Eve Spectrum Monitor First Look

[@LinusTechTips]

We're aware that Eve is still having supply and shipment issues, please do your own due diligence before supporting them. -LMG Team

[@scrambled_yt]

Cool

[@VaydaladaVodalada]

Am I actually reading this right? Five hours ago? Or is this another KZbin glitch?

[@DrCoomer_1]

Bruh

[@NitroNTV]

Delayed again to Oktober, why dont they give up already

[@AndreiTache]

Feels weird why people would support something like a monitor on kickstarter (apart from hype I guess). It's not like without an upfront investment/show of demand the monitor manufacturers wouldn't develop betted tech anyways, and when they do you can know before putting your money down how good the product is and that you will actually re eive a product in the first place. Not to harp on anyone who got burnt paying for this product only to receive nothing at all, this clearly is more obvious wifh hindsight

[@xBris]

Eve is just the classic case of "Why is nobody doing this? Can't be that difficult" just to find out that, yeah, it isn't that easy and they're not up to the task. What a surprise.

[@gorjy9610]

@Bronze HD that's because they didn't make a display. I'm not surprised that LG know how to make one.

[@epico5805]

It's an early review unit. There will be some mishaps here and there

[@justinbeamon6624]

@Bronze HD The display is bad in every single way. Blurriness with motion, terrible colors, random middle line and other glaring pre production issues. It's absolute garbage compared to any of it's competitors at this point in time. There's so much to fix it'll be a long time before it gets released.

[@CrisisCoreRussoX]

@@epico5805 early review unit that was manufactured two months before it's supposed worldwide release. In those two months you should be polishing the final details, and not still be working on base functions like functional joystick and ports.

[@xBris]

@@epico5805 this unit was produced less than three months before the official public release date and was more or less a complete dumpster fire. That's not "a mishap here and there", that's a complete failure. I don't think they can pull this around in under two months. But I'd love to be proven wrong. We'll see.

[@phoenixnfa]

i just bought a 1440p 165hz ips display yesterday :crying: EDIT: im halfway through this video and im glad i bought what i bought

[@turbochoochoo]

VG27AQ?

[@phoenixnfa]

@@turbochoochoo nope. Lenovo Legion Y27Q-20

[@TurboManTom]

I bought the Odyssey G7 on black friday, no ragerts

[@linkthehero1234]

@@pc_hackerspchrh0018 stfu

[@avonire]

as if 165hz is low or something lol

[@niko31]

I was tempted many times to pre-order this monitor. Extremely glad I didn't now.

[@StevelyBruckShut]

To be fair you could only put down $100 to reserve the first batch of models, which is refundable

[@ith0ughty0udied]

I allmost did and went with an Alienware and im not even that proud of that choice 😂

[@peterthecoll]

bruh it's a prototype

[@pyrocomputing7345]

@@ith0ughty0udied Alienware isn’t that bad lol I wanted the rog 360 hz monitor Linus uses but it’s £1200 in the U.K. got the Alienware 360 hz monitor for £550 under half price although it’s va instead of ips

[@budbud1111]

Same I’m gunna grab a g7 instead

[@samoksner]

"The main problem is compatability" for the only feature that made this monitor special, good looks.

[@bonkgameing]

@@fran.klindic no

[@a.v.w]

@@fran.klindic don't plug or everyone will either ignore you or unsubscribe

[@lokiteevee3514]

GOOD LOOKS

[@zhockt1334]

@@fran.klindic daaaaaw0

[@Bas_Lightyear]

My brain actually read it as “Looks Good” before I re-read it and saw the mistake

[@TheRipeTomatoFarms]

Its baffling to me that if you're a company sending one of the largest tech influencers a product to "review", wouldn't you go balls out and make SURE you're sending a primo unit/experience to paint your company/product in the best light??

[@65TattooedSkin65]

What if... they did?

[@TheRipeTomatoFarms]

@@65TattooedSkin65 lol.... Then ouch...!

[@errettfitchett2463]

its almost like they dont use it before they send it

[@EcuadorianFlagShip]

@@65TattooedSkin65 that's exactly my take too. this is probably the best they got

[@horusreloaded6387]

When everything they have is prototypes, duct taped and glued together; everything can happen in any moment lol, like they can browse the menu later on so joystick started to work

[@localvolta5782]

Can EVE overcome their tainted history to make the product a buy rather than a bye?

[@IanFindley]

No

[@cognitivedissonance2264]

No

[@EnglandPJ]

"Early unit" = "1 of 10 that we've made and sent out to reviewers"

[@manaspradhan8041]

More like 1 of 2

[@ungefeiert]

And it still isn't a banger

[@centran]

Classic crowdfunding scam. Have insiders in Chinese factories. Discover new products. Try to replicate and beat them to market. Super well produced marketing. Get review sites and news to hype up the product. Utterly fail at manufacturing and logistic of cheap knockoff. Broken English statements about difficulties with suppliers or have to change design slightly so kickstarter or indiengogo doesn't refund money. Money is released. Close up fake businesses. Real brand name product gets released 6 months later further cementing there never had a production ready counterfeit.

[@Hanja45]

Well why would you mass manufacture an incomplete version? Not like I’m going to get one, but having plenty of these doesn’t seem good business wise

[@rubiconnn]

@@centran I think you are vastly overestimating the people who run these. They typically just start a kickstarter with zero planning or experience, with goals that they don't even know how to achieve, then after a long time of orders they desperately reach out to manufacturers to find anyone who can output something remotely similar to the specs promised just to provide something barely passable.

[@WickedSlammy]

Gonna be A LOT of canceled orders after this mess. Yikes!

[@callumdointhings5]

That's the problem - you can't cancel, and it's always a good year too late to make a claim with your credit company I have a ton of unfulfilled kickstarters and indiegogo campaigns from a couple years ago that I'm just screwed on. Shiftwear is the biggest one... Out a couple hundred bucks from those shoes. Never ever use that trash site lol

[@bmarkbyte]

How do u cancel? Been trying and there email doesn't respond or work

[@bmarkbyte]

@@SAK_- ok thanks

[@xxryuhikarixx]

@@callumdointhings5 i ordered 2 144hz monitors and cancelled got my money back i dont know what youre going on about mate

[@Freak80MC]

@@callumdointhings5 To be fair when you back a product it isn't a guarantee it's more like "here's some money because I think this product looks cool" Of course lots will fail but lots will succeed too.

[@brightfox5040]

4:03 The timing when he points his hand at the monitor to that startup application opening looked like magic. It was all in the right place at the right time

[@Kruscle]

r/breathinginformation lol

[@datube5913]

Was looking for this comment before I posted it hahaha

[@HamerReviews]

Oh wow, shipping in 1 month and this is the best they could send to reviewers. I’d be pretty terrified if I had one on order right now :/

[@HamerReviews]

@ninjaonus I don’t have one, no. I had been watching the project as I thought it might be something fun to review, it looks like I’ll avoid it.

[@mickeyu2893]

"shipping in 1 month" They will make exactly 20 and 5 will go to Linus

[@justinaslukosius138]

@ninjaonus You so sad

[@JAK_EDITS.]

im so glad i didnt preorder lmao

[@Aldaris1234567]

Why be terrified? It's not a finished product they went out, and release dates can be moved.

[@LnDSuv]

Discussion of eve monitors was banned from r/monitors due to vote manipulation. That's all you need to know lads.

[@thedoorwayuk]

Yeah, Linus should pull this video really, he is just giving an audience to a disreputable company at this point. They clearly need more backers, which he hints at, even though the review is honest and points to how dodgy this is, I do question the morality of LMG here, people will see this video and will back it because they are denser than a plank of wood. Pull the video and dodge the bullet.

[@JustCallMeGreg0]

@@thedoorwayuk stop being a snowflake

[@silversonic360]

@@thedoorwayuk I mean he heavily thrashed the monitor for its faults. At the end of the day it’s up to the consumer if they still want this thing.

[@aleks138]

@@thedoorwayuk this video helped me realize to stay away from eve so keep it up

[@xmiseryjokers9570]

@@aleks138 yeah same, never heard of them before this

[@NightcoreChase]

Finally this review, time to watch, I placed my order almost 6 months ago xD

[@Saad_fik]

Lmao xD

[@Kitten41]

Prepared to be disappointed

[@seppecornille]

Don't watch it..

[@monishmeher3901]

Are you okay my man? Do you need someone to talk to?

[@ColbyKnox3]

Rip. Knew they weren’t going to produce anything.

[@blze0018]

Moral of this story: buy monitors from the established brands, they're established for a reason.

[@weeksweeks9552]

bUt i sUpPoRt tHe vIsiOn oF tHe LiDdLe gUyS. tHeY'rE sO pAsSioNaTe

[@drackar]

Or buy displays that are on the market as finished products from little guys.

[@ramonrios9271]

@@drackar like what?

[@remy7663]

@@drackar like what?

[@yuri0r]

I mean they all had to establish them selfes at some point. the advice is always the same. don't fucking preorder. just wait for reviews.

[@Fang-]

The Finnish company behind this is "EVE-tech Oy" and it has initiated bankruptcy filing in 2020 due to unpaid taxes here in Finland...

[@skorpion1298]

OOF Size: 100

[@mplovecraft]

I don't know why I got SO surprised that it is/was a Finnish company. Just goes completely against my idea of how Finns are.

[@anas100x]

@@mplovecraft #evedoesntspeakforallofus

[@ndrio]

OMG so glad I didn't pull the trigger on this one. It's sad though that they couldn't deliver

[@definitelynotobama6851]

@@skorpion1298 beat me to it

[@ethanmoss3412]

4:03 the way he flicks his hand and a window opens was pretty cool

[@JustAGlitchFL]

It is

[@jurgullypurf]

@@JustAGlitchFL The way he flicks his hand is just full of the exaggerated swagger of a white Canadian

[@kona7799]

ye

[@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101]

@@jurgullypurf true

[@xipodkidx]

The power of the one extends beyond this world

[@extreme8808]

"What's the worst that can happen..." and the monitor nearly blue-screen died while unplugging 😂😂😂

[@Tommygunn1]

How to ruin a company: just do exactly this. Im glad i didn’t pre ordered.

[@SaimesierP]

Same

[@Iceify_]

The problem with kick starters: takes 3 months to be in stock again.

[@LounisG]

so, like any other company right now.

[@dragospahontu]

@@Mabswer i still don't understand why people give their money away like this😅

[@dragospahontu]

@ninjaonus lol

[@chrislai1093]

There is no such thing as “stock” for kickstarters. If that’s what you think, you don’t understand kickstarters.

[@r0ll754]

@komulista I got a weed grinder from a kickstarter a few years back. Best grinder I have ever owned

[@pradhumnkanase8381]

The cyberpunk wallpaper really complements the monitor.

[@blastisocco]

LMAO YESSSS 😭🤣🤣🤣

[@MrCODEmaster00]

Shame this joke will go over people's heads, thinking it's just a compliment to the nice art haha.

[@Jamikeus]

Lol

[@4kUltraMedia]

@@MrCODEmaster00 RIP

[@dfkfgjfg]

@@MrCODEmaster00 I did at first and then I was like "Wait a second..." hahaha

[@HeyLookImGerman]

Me, who has never heard of Eve before this video: Phew, looks like I dodged a bullet!

[@Fate_37]

I guess it's time to reboot the Kickfarted series.

[@sledgemofo1898]

All in all, he was pretty positive about an essentially unusable product. He really tried to soften the blow.

[@merry1694]

Then Gamers Nexus / HW Unboxed comes in..

[@wisdoom9153]

@@merry1694 hoo boy, that doesn't spell well.

[@Caledon91]

Should have brought back "Kickfarted" for this.

[@bananagoat2682]

Eve: Best display ever Monitor: *does nothing and dies*

[@mykal2803]

Eve: "great idea! lets send a review model to linus! im sure itll go over well.." Also Eve: *On Fire* "everythings fine."

[@ShadowRam242]

Kickstarter - Learning the hard way of "If it was that easy or possible to do for that price, someone would already be doing it."

[@Taureor]

The Samsungs are VA though, aren't they? As for the 27GN950 - I have one. It's great and goes up to 160hz in 4K if you update the firmware and select overclocking on it. Highly recommend. No hdmi 2.1 though

[@AbelKL]

The Samsungs are probably as fast as IPS displays, and the best 1440p240Hz monitors right now - without considering quality control.

[@Lead_Foot]

I prefer a good VA panel these days. The contrast is so superior to IPS

[@Bl4ckWarHawk]

@@AbelKL They are not. They are still sufficiently slower than other high end fast ips panels. And Samsungs VAs have some other issues aswell

[@Marly375i]

ALL HAIL THE ONE AND ONLY TAUREOR!

[@CanIHasThisName]

@@Bl4ckWarHawk On paper, it may seem that way, but pixel response time is not linear. VA panels usually start to get slow only once they get to shades which IPS panels are physically incapable of displaying. And what other specific issues do they have?

[@yinon500]

Soon to be released: the Escobar EVE display, at only half the price!

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Will it be wrapped in gold foil?

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@Fishheadmandible ^ didn't understand the reference.

[@georghofmann1782]

just bought me a Gigabyte M27Q .. absolutly happy about that .. 1440p at 170hz; 1ms IPS Panel with HDR 400 "only" but 140% sRBG Colors-Range and that for 380€ wich is about 455 USD

[@hiryublade]

ah , yes, the "early unit" a.k.a. reviewer-enhanced product ...I can't imagine the final product

[@phoenix0828]

so the final product is even worse then?

[@Cardi_D93]

if it even shows up :(

[@signinforthebestexperience3461]

@@phoenix0828 It's Eve it'll be a disappointment.

[@DFMurray]

Yeah it'll probably become a hot commodity for doctors trying to induce seizures in epileptics.

[@squirrelnut]

Did you even watch the video? Monitor is held together with hopes, dreams and unicorn farts.

[@lakshyabhati5489]

When recommendations are faster than notifications lol

[@AlexandreLabranche]

Lol

[@alejandroalzatesanchez]

Even i cant got the notification

[@xxtravdamanxx]

MAKE A PROFILE PICTURE AND STFU GAYLORD PERSON!!!!!

[@EvHervey]

That's a Dell stand. I've assembled dozens of them...

[@GRAITOM]

Nothing wrong with implementing a great design.... I've had 7 Dell monitors over the years for all different reasons and it definitely not a blatant rip off.

[@benjioward8000]

"There is no such thing as bad publicity"

[@somethinglikethat2176]

Eve: challenge accepted.

[@vicmanthome6605]

As a PR professional, this hurts to watch

[@신-r2r]

Honestly, this looks really good from the perspective of the development side. But just like any university project, it sounds and looks amazing for the ones who were preparing it until you deliver it. Then realize how crappy it was as a finished product, you were just blinded by your own progress.

[@odaselementales]

Hilariously, they are literally linking to this video. Eve clearly agrees with you. That said, I really hope they go broke. They're clearly snake oil salesmen with no shame.

[@jr540123]

Unless your Twomad

[@bernardoregis2681]

4:02 linus spawning a window from thin air

[@WillProwse]

I made a video about this a week ago. I won't be reviewing crowdfunded or Kickstarter campaigns on my channel no longer. Waste of our time and our viewers. 90% of the time, the products are complete junk. Don't support these companies!

[@arandomfox999]

Not all of them, the vast majority though. Wooting One is an example of an excellent crowd funded project with Wooting Two looking amazing. Honestly this should be standard for keyboards, but it isn't.

[@WillProwse]

@@arandomfox999 yeah, agreed. Crowdfunding can be justified and useful, and an example I used in my recent video was the electrodacus SBMS. If a small business or individual uses crowdfunding and they have a high quality, working prototype, then it's great. But the majority of campaigns are large chinese companies that really do not need the cash, and do not have a working prototype. But yeah, I agree

[@arandomfox999]

@@WillProwse love your content BTW, I'm off grid solar. Even my Internet is running off of solar and battery storage. Great stuff, hopefully the demand lowers the lithium chemistry based cells further. For now they're prohibitively expensive upfront where I live on my income.

[@WillProwse]

@@arandomfox999 thanks Adrian! I have a new lithium ion battery that is cheaper than any lead acid around. I think you will like it.

[@JM-yx1lm]

@@arandomfox999 what do you think the cost for 4 raw 280ah cells should be?

[@1.618_Murphy]

The thing is that Linus was completely respectful while criticizing and pointing out the major flaws and very much eager to give this company a shout out.

[@jyrolys6]

Which is great, because it helps the company have a better chance at delivering their promises(more attention = more pre-orders) and also allows the people decide if they want to gamble or not.

[@tams805]

@@jyrolys6 They are a terrible company though. They don't deserve it.

[@jyrolys6]

@@tams805 They're offering a phenomenal product, as long as they deliver it with more polish. Funding might be one of the last barriers from making it a reality. People are made aware of their past and the hopeful people are free to show support. Freedom to gamble.

[@siccoblue2112]

well he's a professional reviewer, so i would hope he remains respectful if he wants to be taken seriously

[@MuhlisErtugrul]

Linus: Back in January- *oh I mean last year January*

[@MuhlisErtugrul]

@@pc_hackerspchrh0018 No thanks :)

[@pretzel3779]

@@MuhlisErtugrul I am curious, what did he say? I mean PC_HACKERS, whatever type of crappy name that is.

[@MuhlisErtugrul]

@@pretzel3779 He invited to his hacker-related YT channel :D

[@chrisaburto95]

im risking it.. just payed for it. I'll keep y'all updated 👍

[@chrisaburto95]

UPDATE: the monitor is great. actually quite impressed for the price tbh. it has its cons but otherwise a great monitor 👍👍 might order a second one sometime soon

[@kekemon3891]

At 7:29 the “What’s the worst that could happen” then the monitor bluescreens 😂 Perfect timing.

[@RedSunFX]

@@fran.klindic can u do a tutorial on how to get rid of spam? Thx.

[@--_DJ_--]

@@RedSunFX Reporting it as such would be a good start.

[@chaniibak7702]

@@--_DJ_-- I feel as though people don't know that you can report comments for this

[@_solaris_4057]

@@fran.klindic HTML lol.

[@matteofountain9143]

Me watching in 144p 24hz: ah yes display quality

[@omkaard]

(◠‿・) 😂

[@lilobungus1572]

Jesus

[@grossly820]

kuality*

[@Trashloot]

Are you watching on a gameboy pocket ?

[@JustAGlitchFL]

@@Trashloot I think so

[@mikemikemikemikemikemeup]

My rule of thumb with Kickstarter and indigogo is if it’s expensive technology just don’t do it. Kick starting small things for the most part is fine but don’t trying to kickstart things like computer monitors and VR headsets and things like that. that’s where you get into things you probably are going to lose your money. Backing things that take a lot of technical skill and time to create often fail.

[@jakobschepers2122]

12:52 this smile, as he knows he just crushed that transition

[@Liliquan]

People should mass report “techFK” for spamming.

[@Thermalions]

Shame we can't unsubscribe from a channel we haven't subscribed to.

[@barer7717]

techfk

[@nolearystream]

Done. That guy is annoying.

[@nolearystream]

@@Thermalions Any yeah, its techFK, don't get techFX for doing nothing!

[@TrashcanGhost]

I've had my eve spectrum monitor for over a year now and it's been great. I'd give it an 8/10

[@aeroacerc.6526]

Considered this monitor back in January, we’ll I’m glad I didn’t.

[@eliadbu]

I Also considered purchasing but I prefer to buy finished and reviewed product than put my hopes that some Kickstart company will be able to fulfill their promises.

[@noob.168]

And we're back in january

[@hsc894]

@@fran.klindic I know that you want to advertise your channel, but honestly, replying to other commenters is not how you do it, as it will make you look petty and desperate.

[@horusreloaded6387]

@@hsc894 it works for a lot people but this guy just spams and please flag it as a spam

[@brkbtjunkie]

It is January lol

[@realgoose]

“Why don’t you have a monitor ready to share with the class?” “The dog ate my monitor”

[@aadityasingh7426]

4:03...... Perfect timing LInus!!!!

[@NekuOnMane]

"and it's curved, which not everyone is into" that's what she said

[@granthoover9045]

What about if your shit circles all the way back to the garage? 😭😭😭😭

[@yumri4]

@@granthoover9045 well if you are making a 360 monitor circle then yeah curved displays are great though i would also ask why you don't just get a VR head set instead as it would be cheaper then however many displays you need to go all the way around you to do a circle. The GPU at min is probably a RTX 2060 so 1000ish USD and the headset depends on which one you go with so between 600USD and 2000 USD. For the monitors for 1 it is around 2000USD due to how big it would have to be then you will have to get multiple ones of them to make the circle. Productivity software for virtual environments is coming along nicely. Microsoft has one made for Microsoft office in VR. It mostly is a screen you go to and interact with and that's it. As Really all of Microsoft office wouldn't benefit from being in VR .... maybe Microsoft office note, viso and PowerPoint. The ones people actually use to do work are word, excel and maybe Access. Depends on the database engine used usually i don't see Microsoft Access used.

[@BlazeTheYouTuber]

@@bhavibro1025 do you just not get it?

[@bhavibro1025]

@@BlazeTheKZbinr actually no. Plz tell me

[@SINISTERfromHELL]

Relatable AF. None of them complained tho.

[@gamerstarwars]

We're all incredibly excited that Madison has been hired

[@musman9853]

@@NightDoge yesterday

[@meurer13daniel]

Who is Madison again?

[@SweepSwapInUrWalls]

@@meurer13daniel madison is the orange hair girl from 2019 rig reboot, i think

[@grossly820]

@@meurer13daniel i think the rog rig girl. She was like literally the opposite of linus so they made a good combo as hosts lmao.

[@jdatlas4668]

Wait, they actually did it? That’s amazing, I absolutely loved her in that build video.

[@NL.]

AOC CU34G2X 34" 144hz ultra wide 1ms LCD Very happy with this one!

[@criptixx1051]

Linus: “Let’s talk about that” My brain: Good Mythical Morning music starts playing

[@Rohanology27]

Randler approved

Dang the nostalgia

[@bricolmane]

@ They went back to doing that intro

[@ZimNugget]

“So far all I’ve managed to open is the stand, but it looks and feels pretty *bang bang* metal as the kids say.”

[@ditditlord5153]

@@fran.klindic shut up already

[@_Epictetus_]

Already pre-ordered months ago. 4k 144hz. When we can get 240hz 1000 nits monitors I will upgrade. I'm definitely excited!

[@brodysisson1]

This would Pair well with a Verge PC.... same logo and everything

[@nathanbykovsky5381]

@@fran.klindic promoting ur channel is one thing. but copy and pasting the same line of promotion shows ur laziness.. no thanks

[@--_DJ_--]

@@nathanbykovsky5381 Just report him for spam. I've done it about 5 times now.

[@brendameistar]

@@fran.klindic reported for scamming

[@heateslier]

did Linus just described how Eve is essentially scamming its customers with the help of Kickstarter ?!

[@phuzz00]

They're probably not deliberately scamming people. They'd almost certainly *love* to be able to sell a really amazing monitor to everyone that wants one. I think the actual problem is...they're just not very good at this whole 'running a business' thing. Or more charitably, they're not very good at setting expectations. A small company like Eve is never going to be able to put out a better monitor than the big companies, whilst also being cheaper, and getting it onto the market first. They can only manage one of those things, or maybe two. The trouble is that they promised all three, and people believed them.

[@notlNSIGHT]

@@phuzz00 Nope. They're legitimately a scam company

[@c433z]

Oh God I backed this thing, haha I didn't think the G7 would go on sale as quickly as it did, but those were pretty hard to get at that price anyways. I don't care that much for color accuracy. As long as it's bright and performs well as far as motion blur is concerned, I'll be happy. I have no idea when I'll be able to snag a 3080 anyways (R9 Fury still hanging in there), so time isn't that much of an issue atm.

[@mikedgreat1]

Just paid for mine in full.....after now just seeing this....I'm shooketh.

[@lanceenjoyscereal]

"Looks pretty sick to me." - LTT. Bet that'll be on site now.

[@adamj93]

They claim these will be shipping at the end of February. That's not a great sign.

[@sebastianjost]

Maybe, with a lot of luck, the first one will ship just in time but from this review it seems very unlikely. They will probably push that date back again.

[@heyitsmejm4792]

Going to be the cyberpunk of monitors 😂

[@derptyderp5287]

To be fair they were originally going to ship them last year, so there's at least a tiny bit of hope they'll learn from Cyberpunk and delay again to release something that isn't completely unusable.

[@riconnected]

I saw ads for these monitors on FB multiple times and always felt something was off..

[@Mico605]

Problem with most kickstarters? Most are moneygrabs that fail to deliver.

[@paulrayne6602]

I was thinking the same thing. There are periodically masterpieces rising to the top like the game Hollow Knight, but that's a rare case of the kickstart being a success.

[@TeensierPython]

It destroys how business is supposed to work. The company gets all the benefits and pushes the risk to the “investor” who gets none of the benefits. The company is supposed to assume the risk and therefore receive the benefit.

[@pdblouin]

Linus says it at around 9:20 - "The issue with backing tech products on Kickstarter" My dad uses Kickstarter successfully, but in the art community, the success rate is much higher. A bunch of artists he follows basically make their money off of selling books through limited-run crowdfunding - no need for a publisher.

[@vladizt5943]

@@TeensierPython Star Citizen same

[@3polygons]

I have worked (as an illustrator, graphic designer, and comic artist) at 4 Kickstarter projects. The 4 successful, quite loved, and the 4 even over delivered, and let me tell you, it was a ton of work for all involved, in every single instance. Indeed, I don't envy a bit the project owners (I always was actually contracted for gigs (fixed rate out of the personal pocket of the project owner, way before starting the campaign, as for those, u need sth actually finished before the campaign, if u expect to succeed), making graphics, illustration, design, 3D miniatures, etc). I worked my ass off there, yet the one non-stop, often losing money in the process and not seeing personal benefits, just reverting on the company/group to grow (they suffer while they create a business, this way. No real earnings, but at least so they can build it), was the person with the idea, the project. We all wouldn't have been able to dedicate those hours to make something personal and solid without crowd funding. This tech "groups", companies or whatever, do ruin the hard work (the name) that others do through Kickstarter (and indiegogo... But I'm more fond of kickstarter).

[@JohnMarshall-NI]

"Back in January..." *checks calendar to make sure I didn't randomly lose 25 days*

[@lissandrodanny6709]

Looks at the calendar and it's march 27, 2022.

[@therealb888]

@@lissandrodanny6709 don't say that man!

[@Ehh.....]

Damn 2020 really was 6 years ago. Time friggin flies man. I just hope we dont lose another continent. I miss Australia.

[@johnbuscher]

@@Ehh..... It’s not all bad. At least we have Rapture! Ok, I lied, it’s all bad. GET ME OUT OF THE OCEAN!

[@therealb888]

@@fran.klindic subbed for HTML!

[@cacklefritz6686]

I picked up a 27GN950 beginning of quarantine and it BLEW my mind. It’s super nice, the opening of this worried me lol but after watching I’m still super happy with the LG 😂

[@kelly63096]

Linus: Back in January Me: hol' up

[@TheGamingComputerBomb]

@@fran.klindic dude stop with the spam

[@WinterAlbiero]

Good times?

[@phxf]

Got my spectrum 4k, had it for a few weeks, and, well, aside from one minor firmware bug where the monitor can lockup if you rapid fire DDC/DI brightness control commands at it while it's asleep, it works really really well. It's a joy hooked up to a ps5 playing 120/40fps ratchet and clank in HDR, and the usb-c connectivity to hook up to my apple stuff works well too. Turned out well. I'd consider buying from eve devices again in the future.

[@benjaminhm9]

Did u know they recently filed bankruptcy?

[@Jmacfann]

My Dell s3220dgf was on sale for $328 and holly hell am I glad I picked it up and didn't actually give any money for this after reading about EVE. I have my series x hooked up to it and it looks and works great. I also use it for work

[@TaberIV]

This is why I Kickstart board games and D&D books lol

[@MNordn]

Will you publish a update when the consumer variant is officially released? The QHD 240hz one would be really interessting as well as just a generall update on the 4k model :)

[@playerone2772]

Wish you'd do a follow up on this monitor

[@EliteProductions3129]

Speaking of Kickstarters, are you ever going to take a look at the Mountain Everest Keyboard?

[@MichaelBolens]

Would love to see a video comparing some monitors intended to be used as drawing surfaces for graphic designers

[@yagorbalotsin]

I had originally backed that thing, then when they started delaying stuff, dropped it instantly (thankfully didn't have issues with refund), and got myself the 27GN950 back in October. Never been happier

[@goddard152]

the background music isn't loud enough, its been sounding like static lately

[@julescjc]

I love how over time Linus has slowly gone from aging old man to young hipster xD

[@dogboy0912]

He used to look like a 40 year old man trying to look 18. Now he looks like an 18 year old trying to look 40.

[@NathanTax]

I love how over time beards have slowly gone from defining age to defining youth. But it might just be my age speaking here.

[@arrowdynamlc]

Alienware, Acer, and Gigabyte all have upcoming or currently available 1440p 240-275Hz monitors, with varying levels of HDR certification.

[@mini-_]

Problem with Kickstarters: Worse shipping time than RTX 3080 videocards.

[@DylanJGehl]

True

[@alumlovescake]

If any product to ship

[@alumlovescake]

At least kickstarter postage cost isn't £11

[@protato911]

So baiscally the same as the rx 6900 xt.

[@deufel86]

@@alumlovescake Right, postage cost might be inexistant but if you pay for your device upfront and never receive anything I would rather pay some postage and get my tablet instead.

[@uhemi09]

I honestly thought he was going to mention Glasswire again at the end of this video

[@geok1ng]

Zisworks has been selling 27" 4k panels that run 4k120hz, 1080p240hz, 720p360hz for many years. They have a kit for 39" VA panels with the same specs. Not forgetting they have Scan backlight with true blur reduction

[@iaintnomanstealer]

I feel like Linus is going out of his way to review all of the aw2721d's competitors but not the Alienware itself since hes still mad about his secret shopper experience from Dell lol

[@Supermrloo]

@@fran.klindic you’re a loser for advertising your channel on someone else’s

[@rkk7895]

@@Supermrloo "Advertise like shameless hores" - Jesse Cox

[@q3zenith]

4:02 feels like hea using a touch screen lol. great timing

[@supermo26]

I recommend turning features on and off to verify the operating system isn't backwards. I noticed with some Chinese stuff, off is on and on is off in the menu / on screen display. I've experienced this with apps as well.

[@baitboy3191]

When their marketing was primarily on Facebook you know it’s trash

[@jonathansoko1085]

Not really, that was a very dumb and uninformed thing to say.

[@minecraftmike934]

@@jonathansoko1085 I agree with you Facebook is a great place to reach large amounts of people.

[@jonathansoko1085]

@Tyler Youre assuming a whole lot of shit. Way to go fam, making a points i never made.

[@eribetra]

@Tyler @Tyler The point isn't that Eve is marketing on Facebook, it's that they're marketing _primarily_ on Facebook instead of sites like Twitter and KZbin, and that doesn't add to their credibility. (btw I'm not saying you're wrong, just wanted to say this)

[@Heinsha]

tbh because I didn't see their advertisements anywhere else other than Facebook and Instagram I started to think they were a scam when they were advertising the exact same thing a year later with no progress. You'd think if they wanted to advertise to pc enthusiasts they would do so on literally anything other than Facebook.

[@dasu2324]

so 1 year later, how is it going? :D

[@egnbkts9561]

Is a scammer. Monitors are not delivered and there are no refunds. They changed the company name to Dough.

[@stevegoodiski5713]

I just installed a 3060ti in my prebuilt, and I upgraded from single channel 8gb ram to 16gb in dual channel, the performance difference is night and day, i can play games on the super high graphics settings while still maintaining 120+ fps on bigger or more detailed games, thank you for sharing your knowledge oh wise one linus, i love your vids and wouldn’t have done as much as i have without you

[@JustJakeYT]

I’ve been waiting for this!!! Edit: wow glad I didn’t put money on this light years ago lol

[@Ghos838]

Now the shipping date is July And then it will be september Etc... To good to be true 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@chriskapuschinsky4536]

Yup! they just pushed my order back again to September. I cancelled them after that, over a year since "pre-order" to get their basic monitors.. lol

[@Ant_Stark]

@@chriskapuschinsky4536 hope you learned your lesson

[@iali01987]

I bought 1440P Acer 27" monitor with 240hz overclockable to 270hz with HDR from Microcenter and it works great. I have no idea why I couldn't find any info regarding this monitor on any place except on Microcenter website. Not a single youtube video about the monitor!

[@inf3rnalis804]

That is literally Dell’s monitor mount on that stand.

[@JoseAntNS]

I saw some HP monitors using it too. Is that a new standard?

[@inf3rnalis804]

@@JoseAntNS it may be I looked and seems like lots are using similar designs I wonder where it actually comes from.

[@ppmguire]

My Asus has a similar mounting style.

[@alexandertetyukhin1737]

Same for LG bois

[@JoseAntNS]

Does anyone know the name of that kind of stand coupling?

[@michakrzyzanowski8554]

This "blue screen" worked like jumpscare for linus

[@IIHawkGamingII]

For 4k144Hz Acer has the Predator XB273K that is about $900 on Amazon. I own it and absolutely love it. It often sells out but there is a fair bit to get one when a batch comes in.

[@vedantshaji9557]

I think you were supposed to kick start the monitor for it to work properly

[@WhoAmIWill]

5 minutes in and I’m convinced no one should buy this.

[@Its_Quash]

If it lives up to what it says I will get it because that is exactly what I need

[@mattbaillargeon]

@@Its_Quash the thing is it never will live up to what you want it to be.

[@Robbnlinzi]

Untrue... blind people can.

[@akhirulfajar]

@@mattbaillargeon let's just give them more time

[@InimitaPaul]

I only started using KS about a year ago and I’ve ordered loads of stuff since, never had an issue other than a couple of small release delays. I love KS! That said, I’ve never purchased tech on there, probably never will either.

[@J_Harker]

How's everyone doing today :) ?

[@chumpy500]

fantastic how about you

[@J_Harker]

@@chumpy500 Me too

[@toyota6450.]

@Swiss same bro

[@J_Harker]

@@toyota6450. nice

[@vojtechp]

Netflix: Are you still watching? Somebody's daughter: 5:04

[@carlwolf5923]

I had one of these on preorder. Then I canceled the preorder and bought the 950 instead. the 950 is solid though expensive. I have no regrets, apart from the lack of power delivery.

[@teovillanueva6451]

did some one notice at 4:02 how linus points at the monitor and it pops up something in the exact same place?

[@KittyKittyPeowPeow]

This looks like garbage, glad I waited for reviews before giving them a cent or preordering.

[@AFF_NYC]

@@fran.klindic no

[@HydroInTheBack]

Legit just pre ordered today and just cancelled after seeing this, fucking KZbin not showing me my subscribed accounts videos almost costing me $600

[@ogsniper743]

@@fran.klindic No!

[@e2rqey]

So so so glad I just went with the LG 27GN950 all the way back in October 2020. I would still be waiting for my Eve Spectrum 4K 144hz monitor today, almost 7 months later.

[@randybobandy9828]

And the EVE will be garbage ...mark my words.

[@peeperinos]

"Now its not locked at 0 brightness" if that is on the list of positives, demand refund