How Has Nobody Made This Before?

[@Dave2D]

We need untextured glossy gaming displays. Matte screens suck now. 🤣

[@vedaryan334]

True

[@magicpaladin]

True

[@Ash_1277]

True True

[@rickyborby]

Yea true and.. that's pretty true

[@TommyVercettisGamingNews]

Dave, do all Tvs have that matte finish / anti-glare?

[@kizanko]

I just wish companies would finally get over the extreme and quite cringy ''gaming'' designs with RGB's flying everywhere and random thick ugly corners, hexagons and the most bizarre-looking choices in every aspect of trying to look ''cool''. And start to make PC's, laptops, monitor's, keyboards and mouses with minimalist and sleek designs but the same specs as ''gaming'' products.

[@Underground.Rabbit]

Especially the color red. Jesus fucking christ start with that please.

[@morecowbell2611]

Yes. All I can say is yes.

[@mmorales508]

Couldn't agree more

[@perseus31]

Razer does that. I think that is why people think razer is razer. And for the laptops, they started to change. Asus Zephyrus series Razer Blade series and some more they all look minimalist and thin.

[@frost8426]

That's exactly what I want but the truth is there are high demand for RGBs powered devices.

[@coolhairstyle]

Finally! I have been thinking the same about glossy vs anti-glare for years. I was beginning to think I was nuts and it was only me that preferred glossy panels. It made no sense to me that all the devices mobile enough to take outside in the sun had glossy panels but then the giant monitor that you set up indoors in a room that you normally have some level of control over has a frosty layer over it to "protect you from reflections"! 🤦🏻🤷🏻

[@peaj4812]

Personally I think it's good for TVs, because most people don't have very good light isolation inside their house. Normal blinds will leave noticeable glare on a glossy finish. But ultimately having the choice would be best.

[@aleksandertrubin4869]

@@peaj4812 AFAIK TVs often rely on more advanced techniques than a simple matte coating (like interference-based anti-reflection coating), and IIRC VA panels have some inherent anti-reflective qualities. Also pixels generally being bigger probably reduce the disadvantages significantly

[@FriendlyPCGamers]

Do you also like glossy over matt? I used to think i am the only one too, had faced rage from many Indian tech enthusiasts for favoring glossy panels. I had lenovo ideapad y510p which had glossy display which was amazing.

[@vinoo882010]

@@peaj4812 not to mention a phone can be tilted or brightness increased momentarily.

[@ExperienceCN]

There is a reason all phones and tablets are glossy, it's just better. I have had mat displays on my Thinkpad`s at work and its awful

[@Cimlite]

I've had glossy monitors, and though it looks incredible at first glance... _it drives you crazy after a while._ You can't open the blinds, you can't have variable lighting in the room, and you'll hate your own reflection after a week. There's good reason most of them are matte.

[@landinobin4835]

Congratulations

[@paulweston8184]

@@landinobin4835 Lol. Yay!!

[@cjansson]

Was that the old Apple ones with a huge gap between the glass and the panel itself? If so, yeah those are nuts. This one looked better, actually just like my LG oled TV..... We are not complaining that much for TVs, or are we?

[@ajtatosmano2]

@@cjansson you don't spend 10+ hours before a tv screen every day (probably). It's not the same with monitors. Lighing conditions change throughout the day, you sit close and see your own reflection unless you crank up the brightness. Ofc, you can sit in a room without natural lighting and ventillation but that's not a good thing over long periods of time.

[@jamesjenkins9480]

Yeah, he was talking about laptops and phones... like... dude, I wish all those were matte too bc I can't stand the reflections.

[@charliefry]

I need that glossy display, like, right now! It's so cool and refreshing to finally see a modern non-Apple glossy monitor. Say what you will about Eve and their business practices, but at least they're trying to shake up the monitor market with some much needed innovation.

[@dragospahontu]

Matt is better

[@mystre4193]

glossy monitors arent something new and apple sure as hell didn't start it.

[@hamantu1997vip]

@@mystre4193 what is the last time you see apple products with matte display?

[@nfugitt89]

@@mystre4193 They’ve been the most prominent

[@tabalugadragon3555]

@@mystre4193 at least unlike others they didn't give up on them

[@DataRadar]

I always believed my laptop had a beautiful glossy screen and a monitor with a glossy screen is 100% worth having to deal with reflections. The contrast, colors, sharpness, it's visually superior in so many ways.

[@micro7567]

for entertainment yes, but for productivity a matte screen is a must (for me at least)

[@DataRadar]

@@micro7567 tell that to all the Mac users. If you can control your lighting then it will be fine. Glossy displays are great for photo, video and color editing as the image is more accurate.

[@micro7567]

@@DataRadar aha thanks

[@iambear.6526]

Nah. Once I went matte, I can't go back. Having every dark color become a mirror is a no go. Way to distracting.

[@dushk0]

@@DataRadar everybody gangsta until you have to deal with shadow details, even the hooded displays have some coating, so do Macs.

[@SparkyWellington]

I've owned the 1080p Sony 3D Display for the last 10 years and to this day i would tell you that the image quality is superior over many monitors and I'm just now realizing it's because of it's "mirror like" finish. It truly does make the image so much crisper with better colors

[@Reverse_Goat]

What’s the model name? Curious

[@kkiwirocks]

Curious about the model, too

[@kevinlow69420]

Wow your modern display didn't die in 3 years?

[@paulhope3401]

@@kevinlow69420 You make it sound like all LCD TV's dont last long. My old 1080p LG 3DTV is now about 11 years old.. probably older. Still going strong, used every day and has lasted longer than all my older tv's. You had the opposite experience?

[@kevinlow69420]

@@paulhope3401 my family basically went through 3 LCD/LED TVs in 10 years, all are LG or Samsung. Now we don't have a TV in the house anymore and it's great. Modern consumer goods are built to fail so you keep buying new stuff. I don't know how yours lasted so long.

[@cassnate6259]

I was trying to figure out what I was missing when I switched from a 27" iMac to Mac Mini with external panel - I think this is it! Going from glossy to matte panel. I didn't realize I'd miss the sharpness of glass so much.

[@robertminnicks1136]

Same here!

[@Rhythm8503]

I've always disliked matte panels, I could really careless about the reflections.

[@alamaba928]

Me too🙃

[@Subhrajyoti]

@@Rhythm8503 bro same like companies should provide options

[@pinoyxbox]

Same when my late 2013 imac broke down last year and decided to build a pc instead and got a 34 ultrawide monitor i immediately noticed the difference.

[@Mc3ks]

OMG we need more glossy screens TODAY!!! You can tell the difference right away when the video starts. The reflections are not a big deal when you're engaged with the content on the screen. I have the glossy Steam Deck screen, a huge Samsung Tablet and the Google Pixel that both have awesome glossy screens. The glare is not even a thought unless you actually want to look for it then your mind focuses on it. I don't pay attention to the glare when gaming or reading so it's a non issue, the screens are so much brighter than the indoor surroundings, I can still use both screens in bright rooms even. Now with a 27"-32" glossy panel I can always dim the lights one way or another, because you best believe I'm gonna want the best experience ever. I'm just hoping OLEDs get cheaper soon and bring glossy screens so I can finally jump on the band wagon. 32" QHD (2560x1440p) OLED Glossy panel for $450-$550 would be perfect...still expensive. But considering how 50"-65" inch OLED TVs are cheaper than some of the $800-1000 monitors nowadays, I think it's time to make gaming screens cheaper to reflect their smaller size so more of us buy them.

[@Arcadium1177]

I've thought about this constantly, especially whenever I use an Apple display with a glossy glass screen. If Eve produces these I'd buy two!

[@prateek1703]

Wait for a more reliable company to make it.

[@DanielDuarteSza]

I was gonna comment the same thing.

[@StrangerHappened]

​@@prateek1703 Apple already makes it. Though the response times are great only on iPad Pro (2017 and later) which is not a PC monitor in any way. So it would work for non-competitive gaming until Apple will release a fast 120 Hz full-size monitor.

[@SteelSkin667]

@@StrangerHappened Unfortunately I doubt they will release more stand-alone monitors aside from the current Pro Display XDR, and that thing is out of the budget of most people. Not to mention that it only works correctly on Mac.

[@billzjax]

@@SteelSkin667 stand alone apple 27in monitor are rumored to be released sometime next year so don’t get your hopes up.

[@AngryApple]

A glossy panel with the anti glare coating of a modern LG Oled would be nice. Its amazing how much it removes reflections without butchering the image

[@HeadphoneHangover]

I gave up on gaming monitors and high refresh rate for this reason, and since 2016 I bought a bigger table and have been using 43" 4K TV's since then for gaming, watching movies, shows, streams, youtube etc. I don't play competitively, might as well amp up my actual entertainment time with proper screens. Still waiting for LG to release smaller OLED screens than 48", that way I get the best of both worlds.

[@nigel2187]

@@HeadphoneHangover no one asked lmao

[@AninoNiKugi]

@@nigel2187 No one asked you to comment too. And same for myself but I still did it because I want to.

[@nigel2187]

@@AninoNiKugi Cringe.

[@haterskeephatin101]

@@nigel2187 someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed

[@brendvd]

It's been 2 years and other brands haven't adoped glossy display options for their lineup

[@dkursada]

When I saw the two monitors side by side, I thought Eve just figured out to have the best of two worlds: an anti-glare layer that can be switched on and off. You know, like one of those new crazy public bathroom cover glasses that turn into frosted glass when you locked the door. But they kinda just figured out a gaming monitor with more mobile device-like screen? I mean, it's still crazy that industry didn't think of this before but this is realization, not innovation

[@tggorudon2551]

Woah there

[@JohnnyZenith]

Electrochromic glass.

[@dkursada]

@@JohnnyZenith thank you

[@StrangerHappened]

Sadly, so far any layers that can be switched on and off not only make the image at least a bit dimmer but also corrupt the gamma and blur.

[@dylan-nguyen]

Apple has been making glass displays for years but those aren't for gaming

[@Radhaugo108]

Fun Fact: The “Base Model” Steam Deck has a Glossy Screen and some have mentioned it has a significantly better image quality than the 512gb “Anti-Glare” version.

[@BigBoss7777777]

Says who

[@jeffbrownme2]

@@BigBoss7777777 Dunno but I mean the anti glare is the exact same technology highlighted in this video. It's going to be a matte film and it'll diffuse light and muddy the screen a bit. There's no way it won't be a worse image.

[@BigBoss7777777]

@@jeffbrownme2 why did I order the 512gb version then

[@siege3624]

It makes sense for a portable device. I remember when my original matte laptop screen broke and I had to replace it with some glossy aftermarket one, I had to be much more mindful of the glare. It's kind of a tradeoff, antiglare vs clarity

[@RomboutVersluijs]

Image quality is the same, display experience is different. Image quality is what resolution and definition it puts out. Even if it was tapped off or painted black. The display panel still has the same image quality. Small detail :)

[@brYan-one7]

Totally agree @Dave2D! I don’t understand why good, glossy monitors are so hard to find. That gloss indeed makes a huge difference with text and colors! Just imagine an LG OLED with a matte screen.

[@krazymofo17]

That’s the problem I’m facing with the new OLED 240hz monitor, it’s Matte finish 😩

[@fueledbyyams]

I've been waiting for this to happen for a while, I hope glossy screens pick up steam and become popular on desktop monitors!

[@tabalugadragon3555]

I hope same thing happens on laptops as well

[@mastroitek]

But why, don't your eyes get tired? I used a glossy display for 1month and personally it was a bad experience. Colors were great but whites used to make my eyes burn and I would get headache

[@tabalugadragon3555]

@@mastroitek probably eyes get tired a little faster, but what's the point of using a display at all if you NEVER see the pristine, natural picture the creator of it intended it to?

[@mastroitek]

@@tabalugadragon3555 I get it, but it is not for me. From the start of this pandemic I started to stay 10-12h a day in front of a monitor, a glossy one, even on low brightness gives me problems after 7-8h. I think it just depends on the personal use. If I would only game and watch content I would have no problems with a glossy screen. Also because I would not be 10h+ in front of it 😂

[@AnesuC]

@@mastroitek aren't phones glossy? Yet a lot of people (me included) constantly look at them without any issues. At least for me

[@punkmanmatthew]

I remember for a long time looking for a 4k monitor with a glossy screen for a long time. The only options were some apple computers or removing the matte film over the matte monitor. Glad someone has finally made one after all this time. I never understood why no one made the glossy 4k monitors.

[@mariosmith1172]

it is possible to remove matte film ?

[@punkmanmatthew]

@@mariosmith1172 yes you have to be careful tho and there is no protection over the screen anymore after removal.

[@0hMyGandhi]

it's "possible". But I put it in quotes for a reason. I've heard....stories.

[@CalebCheek]

LG ultra fine 4k or 5k display is glossy

[@rufysufy]

As someone who uses a 43” tv as a monitor, yes! Everything looks so much brighter and clearer.

[@zizo_tf2]

I have been saying this for YEARS! I am so happy that there is someone with some voice finally getting behind this.

[@LunaPhyo]

same here

[@MetalxAssassinx]

I have searched so long for a glossy display. It was so harsh to find some, had to settle for a matte display... Thank you so much for shedding light on this topic.

[@TubeSomeYou]

Fully agree. My old 27" Apple Cinema display has so much better image quality to my eye, than my Asus ROG 32" ultrawide matte display

[@JosueHernandez-nu5cp]

Even the oem dell 1080p monitor we have that came in bundle with an Inspiron we bought in 2014 has a glossy screen

[@CheckTechNow]

i was thinking the same a couple of days ago. Indeed , it would be nice to have the option for this!!

[@OptimumSlinky]

I feel like I had a glossy screen from HP back in the day (2010-ish), and while it wasn't the best monitor, the colors certainly popped.

[@GAMERSNACK]

I love the glossy ones.

[@mastroitek]

And I'm the exact opposite 😂

[@mysteryman3054]

Honestly, they should be the norm

[@tony_T_]

@@mysteryman3054 I got a matte monitor as a secondary monitor to my iMac that I'm going to replace soon with an actual computer, and I could not get over the fact that the glossy monitor looked hundreds of times better than the matte one. I looked for a glossy monitor, but the options are incredibly limited which kind of sucks.

[@PaddyMcMe]

Totally agree. I remember like 10-15 years ago a friend of mine bought a Dell XPS AIO and it had a glass screen on it, my god the colours looked so much more intense and vivid, particularly in gaming, and in RTS type games it even made the units look like they had a bit of depth to them, even though obviously they didn't as it wasn't a 3D screen.

[@hermanstokbrood]

Form over function. If you are a professional spending hours behind a screen, a glossy screen is fatiguing.

[@NN-sp9tu]

​@@hermanstokbrood This is only true if your work environment has bright lights or glare from windows. In my case I would have zero problems with this. That, and not everyone cares about using it for work.

[@hermanstokbrood]

@@NN-sp9tu Unless you are in a darkroom....yes. In all other cases, no. People are defending their choices. But everyone with a descent amount of common sense already knows that a reflective surface has serieus disadvantages. I own a glossy screen and it's noway as comfortable as my other screen which has a coating.

[@NN-sp9tu]

@@hermanstokbrood "Unless you are in a darkroom....yes. In all other cases, no." Have you run experiments or found any data to verify this? I sincerely doubt you have. Working in ambient lighting (no sources of glare) I notice no difference. I am just as comfortable using my macbook pro for 8+ hours for work as on my matte ips monitors. Your experience is just as valid as mine, and frankly you're acting like a douche

[@kine8124]

Thank god a company is finally even entertaining this idea! I'm an artist and designer, I'd fork over a few paychecks for a non-apple, gloss monitor with a good refresh rate and resolution so I could game AND work without compromise. I hope Eve does make this and follows through on the delivery. This is something I'd buy in a heartbeat.

[@WhatAboutZoidberg]

One of the reasons I still LOVE high resolution CRT screens is because of the glass screen. It seems like a small detail but the richness and "wetness" it gives to images is amazing, including the deep blacks and no halos. These are the exact details I want in modern gaming displays. Just give me the option, even if its not the most common unit.

[@lievenvv]

All my CRT's have matte coatings...

[@greatwavefan397]

I heard CRTs have low refresh rates, which may cause eye strain. But you do have a point about glass screens. If CRT is the same type of screen used in arcade cabinets, the graphics are buttery AF.

[@10unnecessary01]

@@greatwavefan397 CRTs are known for the opposite, the ability to have higher refresh rates (80-90hz+)

[@GraveUypo]

@@greatwavefan397 even the cheapest crts used to be able to do 120hz in lower resolutions. the default refresh rate for msdos was even 70hz

[@Noah-Lach]

That's why I love OLED and Plasma, too.

[@ali8283]

Finally somebody said it! I always wanted a glossy 4k display but no one ever sold them at a reasonable price.

[@YatheeshRaju]

As a software developer can't tolerate looking at the gloss screen monitor in cubicles with randomly placed over head lights but for home setup where we control the light position it can be good .

[@SeanLumly]

Yep. Fighting glare to see code is literally the worst. Most people are likely consuming content, making gloss acceptable. Ideally, there would be an option (eg. a user-removable layer or panel).

[@mattparsons8598]

same issue, tried glossy laptop screens in the past and couldn't handle all the reflections. Really only useful in pitch black rooms for consuming content and at that point you might as well buy a TV.

[@davidwillkie]

Never realized till you mentioned it why I prefer my MacBook pro screen over my gaming laptop. I noticed the gaming laptop didn't look as good never realized why. You answered that. Thanks.

[@fos_02]

And now you know that maybe Apple has some kind of special deal or market collusion related to sell expensive products restricting low and medium tier glossy laptops and screens. Because really does not make sense than anybody is selling it, and they were 10 years ago.

[@readmore8974]

Something to note in this video is that there is bright lighting over the screens which the matte coating diffuses. If you are using it in a dark room, the difference won't be as noticable

[@viko207]

This

[@tobiasl.726]

The sharpness difference is still there. Only the better contrast would be lesser noticable.

[@darkkforest]

Always will be..

[@pentagonperry]

maybe he sees this and records a short of the 2 monitors in a dark room

[@0hMyGandhi]

Exactly. Don't light the room like a dentist's office, as Dave has done here.

[@02stampede]

I spent a small fortune on gaming monitors over the past year, and now I want them all in glossy finish. Thanks Dave!

[@intr0vrt639]

*crying in corner*

[@lorenzofranciosi6830]

That's the reason why I bought the 4K Razer 15 Advanced. I turned off touch inputs so now I only enjoy the glossy finish on this great panel!

[@minecraftminertime]

Thought Dave was about to unveil the first OLED monitor… oh well, glossy monitors are still pretty awesome especially on phones

[@alejandroperez5368]

phones= small displays= reflections are not a great deal.

[@SupahNin10dohp]

There's already a few OLED monitors, but I for sure thought this was going to be a new 120hz+ OLED monitor.

[@abubakrakram6208]

@@alejandroperez5368 Phones are used outside in the sun, so reflections are a big deal.

[@sphong0610]

@@abubakrakram6208 Phones are easy to just tilt or turn away from the light source. 27-34" monitors, not so much.

[@3MPIREOFDEATH]

I love my MacBook Pro and OLED TV’s super glossy finish. Always wondered why gaming specific monitors were matte. Makes sense for productivity and in offices but not for gaming.

[@Quiqueleal85]

Man I just bought the LG C1 48' and I am spoiled for life, there is no way ever I am going back to anything but OLED and glossy finish, it's majestic to watch!

[@3MPIREOFDEATH]

@@Quiqueleal85 Agreed! My hope is LG or Sony will make a 32” version of their OLEDs for gaming. LG has the ultrafine OLED monitors but those are geared toward creative pros (colorists, etc).

[@nazibkhan775]

Honestly having a glossy a display on a gaming laptop would make the gaming experience SO MUCH BETTER!! I have a gaming laptop and it has a matte display, while my brother has an HP Envy ultrabook. I noticed him one day playing Assassin's Creed 2 on it and I immediately noticed that the picture quality of the game looked so much better on his laptop then my gaming laptop which has a big fat discreet GPU powering everything. Yet still the same game didn't look as good on my laptop just because mine has a matte display and his ultrabook has a glossy one

[@lazyreuvin]

I'm def interested in a glossy panel (Damn the Spectrum looks so good on a desk). Can't wait for those 4k 165hz panels in 2022. Been holding out for a long time for a monitor that's no compromise with regard to my preferred specs.

[@Invictus_Mithra]

A lot of the older monitors used to have glossy displays. I still have a cheap Korean 1440p 120hz overclockable monitor from back in the day and it still looks great in comparison to some of the mid-range matte 1440p gaming monitors available today.

[@nathanbrown492]

Do you think they would be a good purchase now? Definitely interested

[@zL0ki]

This has always been a thing. If you compare an old glossy monitor to a newer matt panel it still beats it hands down. Manufactures moved away from glass because it's no doubt cheaper and you had consumers complaining about the glare instead of shutting their curtains or blinds.

[@Invictus_Mithra]

@@nathanbrown492No, these monitors have some quirks and I think modern 1440p monitors are a better overall buy. They used to definitely be worth it back in the day when no manufacturer had a 1440p 120hz monitor or when the 1440p high refresh rate IPS monitors were around $1000 and you could get these for around $300. Nowadays, you can get an ips high refresh rate 1440p monitor in that price range during sales and not have to deal with the headache of getting something shipped from you from Korea, having to overclock, etc.

[@nintendoever]

100% Agree with Dave. I pretty much preffer to deal with some reflexes for a much better overal image quality

[@philskade9537]

My experience with glossy laptop screens is, at low NITs of brightness, the glare is really noticeable. It’s then into the territory of having to trade off battery life for a brighter display. Less of an issue admittedly on gaming laptops where it’ll probably be plugged into the wall anyway.

[@MrNubshow]

MacBooks have super bright displays and they’re glossy

[@The1Music2MyEars]

Most laptops that have a glossy screen (years old now) barely go over 250 nits and are worse than mirrors

[@DanKhooProductions]

is it just me or Dave looks super buffed in this video

[@aaryaputra108]

It's just you, and the other 35 who upvoted your comment.

[@johnko5]

Buffed =/= buff

[@michaelh.4266]

yeah he's got the pump cover on

[@srrs007]

@@aaryaputra108 i mean it's a verified account so

[@srrs007]

@@rrektless people tend to like comments by verified accounts for some reason idk

[@kalafalas246]

I’ve always loved the imac because of the glossy display. I would LOVE for gaming monitors to follow suit, it’s so much better in every way!

[@saint00]

I think not just gaming models... but for all use types situations, business, home use or gaming with the option of matte you know. I mean when apple were using glossy on their panels it wasn't because of gaming it was because the colors were richer and coupled with an anti-glare coating....they pretty much built a panel for all use types.

[@KingKong-xp6so]

@@saint00 lmao trollkid. No wonder an apple sheep.. Get some knowledge at first

[@LRM12o8]

@@saint00 lol, for the office, right! Can't read half of the text on the screen, because of reflection from some bright ceiling light panel and after a couple of hours you're halfway blind, but the colors of the different Microsoft Office applications look great! 😃👍 Only benefit might be you can see when someone's coming up behind you. For the more frightful (or lazy) employees. Have you ever worked in an office environment? Cuz then you'd know what matters for an office display and what doesn't!

[@LRM12o8]

@I suck at being bad lmfao, because TVs and monitors are used for the exact same thing at the exact same time of day and therefore what replies to one automatically and exactly applies to the other as well, right? Go figure!

[@christof.the.engineer]

@I suck at being bad strange, I have 2 LCD and 2 OMOLED TVs in my house, all 4 have a matte finish. and on the other hand, you fix a tv and it never moves, so reflections would not even be an issue

[@yp5387]

Finally…. Finally…. I was searching for this one last year but couldn’t find single monitor that had glossy panel and high refresh rate. At one point I was planning to buy Apple Max monitor with glossy panel one.

[@metalliholic]

One of my first monitors I got like 10 years ago had a glass screen. The colors were much much deeper than my brothers matte finish monitor. Didn’t realize it wasn’t as common still.

[@snowmcsnow4732]

My 15 year old Gateway Laptop came with a glossy panel and it beats my 4K display by a mile. Also my 15 y/o Gateway laptop has a sweet keyboard which is a pleasure to type with 15 years later.

[@JAFOpty]

YES!!!! I remember my first LCD monitor. A Sony 4:3 LCD from 2005, it had a glossy screen, it was the best! But sadly was never able to find a modern replacement. This is one of the reasons why my old iMac has super bright colors... glossy goodness!

[@shashankverma11]

Same happened with me when I bought LG C1 for my pc. HDR looks amazing on glossy display. Can’t go back to matte screen now.

[@justinthematrix]

Exactly bro

[@blu5175]

how do u deal woth glare?

[@captureimagery]

I returned a monitor with a matte finish the first day I bought it because I legitimately could not see details when looking at the screen. I prefer glossy displays any day although light reflection is still an issue. I think there should be a choice because of improved performance as well as accessibility.

[@Seedlinux]

Agree! Matte looks bad to my eyes

[@cyberedge881]

@ I suck at being bad Matte screens just absolutely destroy the image quality. And they don't really handle reflections any better, imo. I just don't understand how people think that having reflections smeared across your screen looks any better than having a more defined reflection in a smaller area of your screen. I mean, either way is not ideal to me. The only solution is to control the lighting in your room. And for an entertainment device, like a gaming monitor, in your own home this should not be an issue.

[@alessio4761]

I used to have an 1080p glossy monitor from Acer as my first monitor on my then gaming PC I now have a UWQHD 34" Monitor and I am constantly thinking: "It should be better looking now, but it's not" and the whole time I thought I was crazy

[@Yngvr]

Image clarity is so important, so I've been frustrated at anti-glare coatings for years. Especially etched glass on screens for creative work, like Cintiqs for example. It absolutely ruins the image quality, and it feels like people don't care..? It's wild to me.

[@TheAppleKid2011]

I've been wondering about this for ages! Looked on forums only to find people saying they were a terrible idea because of reflections, yet they're still happy to use their giant glossy TV and their glossy phone/tablet/watch outside.

[@FunkyBaconArts]

Is there even an option for non-glossy phones or TV's? Don't think I've seen one in a store. =S

[@TheAppleKid2011]

@@FunkyBaconArts All I can think is to put a screen protector on maybe? But matte TVs were common maybe 15 years ago when they used basic LCD panels but you're right, haven't noticed a matte TV in ages

[@3monsterbeast]

I am so surprised this is the first time I've seen a video made on this topic! I have always hated how anti-glare displays took away from the contrast produced by glossy displays. Great video!

[@Hafsolace]

Dave, I think you accidentally hit the nail on the head when you were listing devices where glossy screens are already prevalent: phones, tablets, laptops - they're all mobile devices and for the most part, if lighting is not to your advantage, you can relocate or even just slightly tilt the screen. Not so much with a stationary setup in a light-filled office perhaps?

[@rokitmix7345]

Thnx, i wrote something like that, but you were polite :D

[@neruwu]

Yeah but you normally don't put a gaming screen in an office. And even so, you should still have the choice between both whereas now you can only get matte even if you're a basement dweller that hasn't seen the light of the sun for years

[@eminch3]

How is a TV a mobile device? But besides that, I don't think this is about glossy vs. matte. For me it's about having the option to go with glossy if I want to. There is obviously enough demand for glossy panels, some would even pay extra for it. Without the option it's only the manufacturers that win, we as consumers can only lose.

[@SebiKoerner]

Tell that to all the glossy stationary Apple displays. Both the ProDisplay XDR and iMac have a glossy screen and I’ve never heard anyone complain about it.

[@ithinkabout4369]

Glossy screens are not prevalent on laptops. Matte screens are much more common.

[@natesteger4291]

It makes colors pop so much. Like a TV vs like a competition IPS panel. I have 3 MSI competition panels and they aren’t greatest on color but I think that gloss could really make them feel a little more vibrant

[@jethrojacinto2798]

I just watched Oliur's review on this Eve monitor and yeah their customer service is absolute shit but the product is really nice so there's a massive conflict there. Idk why their logistics is so skewed but hopefully it's something they can improve moving forward because I think they really have something here with their Displays.

[@rowenarrow]

The customer service being shit is an understatement. As a victim of their scams with the 2n1 they claimed they would develop I will never trust Eve again.

[@Ms123kill]

It's bad for everyone right now I ordered alienware r13 and it's delayed 3 times

[@rowenarrow]

@@Ms123kill this was years ago. If you do research on the company you will see years of people making this complaint. Do as you will be tech reviewers receiving the products only serves the company. Actual experience from customers is an important thing to consider and as one all I can do is share my experience from long before the pandemic was even here. Hell when this happened I think Trump wasn’t even president yet.

[@hunterborden6891]

@@Ms123kill Yeah Mannie's right. I was considering the Eve monitor about 2 years ago but after the loooooong list of issues from the community and no response I went with the LG GN950. Pretty sure Eve used the same 4k 144hz panel as the LG just in a nice modern stand.

[@AuthenTech]

When's that STUDIO TOUR coming?

[@emerelle3535]

Great, just yesterday I installed the third identical Display and now you made me want to have three new ones.

[@Gambit135]

Where can I get me that wallpaper!

[@LongestYardstick]

Holy crap I feel this shock every time I go from my MacBook to my desktop monitor. I’ve been wondering if anyone makes a huge panel 34”+ that has a glossy anti glare like my MacBook

[@hermanstokbrood]

LOL, It's mat for a reason. It's less fatiguing if you're a professional. Function over form instead of form over function.

[@aqibos]

Yo, THANK YOU! I’ve specifically been looking for glossy monitors for this exact reason! I’m developer so I just want really sharp and crispy text… I don’t care about refresh rate and whatnot so much! Sad there’s barely any options for this market.

[@MarkMark]

I feel like Apple’s old Cinema displays used this approach - super-glossy, super-awesome (for their time).

[@AuxHex]

And they changed it because people hated reflections.

[@BurakCalik]

@@AuxHex No they didn’t. Apple still produce all its displays glossy. They recently added a matte as an option for an extra price. but all Apple mobiles, macbooks, imacs, xdr display, they all have glossy panel by default.

[@pennyzee1176]

Apple MBPs used to have a matte option, like, in the 2000s, and I miss it so much. I can understand a glossy display on a monitor, but laptops, ugh. Way less control over environments. I’m an animator/vfx artist and glossy screens make me crazy. Trying to work on location or on the go, can’t see your screen cuz it’s reflecting the sky or lights.

[@EpicMozamba]

the glare is a deal breaker but the video looks noticably better on the glossy one

[@kingsamvisuals]

Position your desk better

[@Dave2D]

is it though? or is it a myth that was perpetuate from old screens that didn't have anti-glare coatings? how many times do you complain about glare on a tablet or phone?

[@muditahlawat]

@@Dave2D never

[@android9497]

Blinds exist

[@TommyVercettisGamingNews]

The viewing angle for tablets and phones is straight on and very close.

[@koblongata]

Used to go after matt screen because it's less reflective, but now not so much after using TV as my PC monitor, everything you said were true.

[@kreius]

As someone who lived through glossy displays in the early 2000s. The reflection kills you in any room other than perfect conditions.

[@Qbikk]

always had glossy laptops and for a few years a glossy monitor and i far prefer that over some less reflective screen. and i dont have perfect conditions, i dont even use blinds and its perfectly fine.

[@kreius]

You sure they were true glossy? Since the displays we had on Acer Laptops and Asus cheap monitors were basically a mirror in a well lit room.

[@Qbikk]

@@kreius pretty sure. If it is too bothersome with the reflection u might want to turn the brightness of the monitor up, same as with a phone.

[@JA-ew5ov]

I was actually pissed when i bought a monitor and i got the glossy one instead of matte, but seeing this vid gave me some relief now, im glad you covered this kind of topic as no one actually talks about this .

[@joelcoll4034]

But you don't have to rely on other's opinion, which one did you like more?

[@RealNikolaj]

Wow that's cool. I instantly saw a potential for a market for custom monitors and TV where you define a preference to the coating at purchase to suit you environment. Thanks for the video.

[@sarthaksanwal3289]

Is no one going to talk about how beautiful the thumbnail is 😍😍

[@jac1011]

actual pixel perfect retrogames. plus more readable for programming. 100% a must buy.

[@michelbruns]

I have a matt 4k 27" screen and text/code is already as sharp as it can be, i really wonder how text would look on a glossy screen now

[@niter43]

@@michelbruns monitors in this video are 4k, there's demo at 2:05

[@michelbruns]

@@niter43 so?

[@Goose619]

I’ve been holding off on this for a while. This will definitely push me over the edge. It’s the best monitor out right now

[@RaoulsRandomVideos]

I have been using a Glossy Dell S2240L IPS for the last 8 years, and this is why I have never bothered to upgrade (?). I hate the matte coating for this exact reason, So glad people are finally noticing, maybe there'll be a new trend of glossy monitors, and I'll finally be able to get a 144hz panel.

[@siam8395]

I've been using a Lenovo YOGA s740 with a 4k glossy display, and honestly the only reason I still have it, it's cause of this display, media just looks sooo good on it.

[@sleptiq]

I bet it looks good when there is nothing being reflected from a mirror-like screen...

[@siam8395]

@@sleptiq I have an Asus TUF 4K monitor good colours and everything, but that matt coat on top takes out that contrast and sharpness. Always preferred my laptop display over that.

[@Sk-tp5xp]

This is why I always looked for a laptop with glossy screen, the colors are so much nicer and on top of that, the screen also looks very cool even when it's off

[@Evil_Chronic]

I have wood shutters and blackout curtains, just because I hate screen glare while gaming. So reflections would be a non-issue for me with this glossy screen. Definitely would like to see more monitors like this in the future.

[@ericmortaro2475]

Whenever I watch my wife play StarCraft 2 on her iMac Pro, I’m a bit jealous of her monitor. Sure it’s only 60hz, but man the sharpness and pop of the colors. I had her try to play on my monitor, which is a 1440p 144hz panel and she was not happy! Lol. Can’t wait for the glossy, 4K, high refresh rate gaming monitors to come.

[@JohnnyZenith]

Couldn't agree more.

[@ArchistYT]

Currently watching this on my matte Eve Spectrum and I'm obsessed with my experience

[@anthonygentilezo9001]

I remember to use the Dell S23 Monitor with a Glossy screen. I really liked it but as a Gamer and a Graphic Designer. I badly want the faster refresh and better response time so I gave up on my old monitor. I hope brands would think about this soon. I really like a glossly monitor for a better color and visual experience.

[@RigAJigglypuff]

I'm on the exact opposite. After using a laptop with a matte display that is bright, really collor accurate, looks gorgeous, and even supports touch and pen(Acer's ConceptD) I want this type of display on ALL of my devices, including TVs and phones. It looks ever so slightly worse than glossy, but in any conditions that aren't exactly perfect lighting, it looks so much better, no distracting mirrored lamps, no reflections, not anything that is not what is supposed to be displayed there

[@trailchaser2]

Completely agree with you. I had no idea there were this many people enjoying looking at reflections all day 😂

[@pbl_07]

agree

[@hypermiraclepositivegirl2415]

Thank you. reflections while using a PC is probably the last thing I wanna ask for. But hey, as long as there is the matte option available, I'm good

[@fantasytky28]

@@trailchaser2 because as in the video, even without huge lighting near the laptop, the matte display is already looks diffuse in the first place. The whole black on matte does not looks black with the plastic feel screen. With people that prefer the glossy one mostly because the glossy provide way clean, clear and sharp feel image. Even with minor reflection of light which if you refer Dave video, the black on matte is not real black especially the top part of the screen. It's grey. And for us who prefer glossy, we just like clean and sharp image even with minor light reflections. And btw both matte and glossy reflect light just the reflection on matte is more diffuse but affecting more area than glossy. Beside at least for me who prefer glossy, there is some kind of brain thinking that make the glossy screen looks more clean and better when matte which feel abit plastics. Hence, even with lighting reflection, knowing how good the the glossy display looks in controlled environment, the brain trick us to feel that glossy image looks better and cleaner no matter how serious the lighting reflection is.

[@extra4542]

OTHER COMPANIES: please make a glossy alternative without a gaudy game aesthetic! How is there not this option yet

[@arvs7356]

I recently purchased a Dell S2721DGF and after a month, I realized how much I love my iMac 5k 27in 2020's untextured screen. Despite having similar sRGB and Adobe RGB coverage, texts and colors simply pop out nicer on my iMac. The matte finish on the Dell mutes the colors a bit, similar to Dave's comparison here between the 2 Eve monitors. Really the only thing it's missing is a high refresh rate, so hopefully someone would come out with a 1440p/4k display with an untextured screen soon.

[@trosra7852]

I was saying this for years! So glad to finally have someone on my side😄 this is literally the reason why I went with the 2020 razer blade pro 4K 120hz, not because of resolution but touch screens tent to have a glossy coating wich looks just so much better + black glas bezel instead of cheap looking plastic bezel

[@soberanisfam1323]

I went with the OLED 4k display. Naturally glossy. OLED is incredible. Worth the refresh rate sacrifice

[@abubakrakram6208]

@@soberanisfam1323 OLED monitors didn't exist until a few months ago. Even now, the only one costs $4000.

[@soberanisfam1323]

@@abubakrakram6208 oh I meant OLED. 4k laptop display. My bad

[@mattparsons8598]

@@abubakrakram6208 OLED monitors have existed for awhile now. Alienware made a laptop with an OLED screen on it years ago (I owned one briefly - and hated it). The tech has been around it's just starting to be more widely adopted in the monitor space now.

[@abubakrakram6208]

@@mattparsons8598 You’re right, there were 3 until this year, that I know of. 1 was made by Dell for a limited time and was pretty good, and the other 2 were made by Asus/Eizo and were terrible.

[@ima245]

Maybe some people forgot about it, but few years ago there were things called… em… office buildings… classrooms… houses that didn’t look like caves I guess? And you really couldn’t control the light in those vintage places, I think that’s why we don’t have too many glossy options out there.

[@MarioP495]

I'd want to try it to see if my opinions have changed over time, but I've never been happy with glossy displays. I've always noticed the differences you talked about here but I can never get over the reflections. I have control over lighting in my room and everything but no matter what I always notice my reflection and it drives me nuts.

[@eminch3]

And that is absolutely okay. Nobody is saying we should all move to glossy and stop producing matte panels. All we're asking for is to have the option to choose.

[@UnholySeoul]

Agreed. Even with controlled light, it would be frustrating to play in a dark room constantly, sometimes I just want to have natural light in my room and I could see that being an issue with a glossy screen.

[@ThePC007]

I personally don't have an issue with the reflections themselves, but the fact that fingerprints are incredibly easy to spot and very tedious to remove on glossy screens drives me nuts, lol.

[@werkayro7188]

I see both sides, so I would much rather have the option to choose when purchasing a monitor. I’m a big fan of the matte finish because the glare is a killer, but I do admit that the sharpness and colors are also game changing... in my personal opinion, unless you’re going 4K, matte is the way to go as there’s not much quality to lose

[@rhaegal5650]

depends on screen size, 4K on a 14” panel is a pointless power drain and the ppi is gonna be the same at 1080p as a 27”4k (to the eye)

[@Artcore103]

It's important to note, and most people don't consider the fact that, it isn't just a binary option. Not all matte / anti-glare coatings or technologies are created equal. There are better and worse, more and less extreme options. I would argue that a heavy matt/anti-glare coating is universally bad unless it's an office type environment or a living room design that is always subject to bright windows or something. But there are more subtle implementations that offer a nice in-between balance of clarity while taking the edge off of reflections.

[@TheEgzi]

Sadly for me the quality you lose with mate is just way to much. Not worth it at all for me

[@LRM12o8]

@@Artcore103 It all depends on the use case and type of device: USE CASE: as soon as you're gonna do something else than purely consuming content, reflections are gonna be a major distraction or even a complete obstruction and studying, doing home office or managing important documents in a dark room on aa bright sunshiny day is generally seen as highly unfavorable. PC monitors of any kind are most likely used for office/study work as well, and your fancy expensive gaming monitor shouldn't look ridiculous at those tasks compared to a dirt cheap office monitor. DEVICE TYPE: smartphones and tablets can get away with glossy screens despite being partially used for office and study tasks, because they're easy to relocate, if reflections occur. It's no big deal on those devices. A desktop monitor setup is pretty much fixed in place though. I thinks that's why there's no glossy PC monitors. laptops are a question mark, too. While they are portable, they're not as flexibly deployable as a tablet and since you often look down at the laptop display, reflections from the ceiling lamps are likely. I had a laptop with glossy screen for study and I actually wanted to put a matte foil on it after some time because I got tired of having to put the screen at an odd angle to avoid reflections from the neon lamps in the classrooms, but the one I got didn't actually fit my laptop as advertised and would've looked to tacky to tolerate...

[@Artcore103]

@@LRM12o8 that's a perfect solution someone should sell as a feature and include with a monitor... a removable matte anti-reflective filter! Holy crap that's so genius and obvious! In 2 seconds you have extreme anti-glare, the next you pull it off and have ultimate contrast and clarity. Why is this not the default solution.

[@luisfullerh]

Amazing, honest, high quality review alongside good criticism and advice, you sir just earned my subscription. Thanks a lot.

[@Mortisnp]

I too have always preferred glossy finish vs Matt on my monitors but sadly it's rarely an option. What I did to my old screen was apply a layer of ceramic car coating on top and it made a difference. Not completely glossy but better for sure. You can give it a shot and if you are scared of applying a permanent coating try a SiO2 sealant like Reload from Carpro or similar

[@denmaakujin9161]

I had a glossy laptop once, couldn't stand the reflection of light and it being a mirror making me lose focus. I always go for the matte display.

[@gabriellundmark]

So you're the guy without control

[@JoakimKM]

@@gabriellundmark to be fair though, not everyone likes to sit in darkness while playing games

[@chedinbuildsstudio5144]

You're going to get tons of hate from glossy fanatics who doesn't respect other preferences .

[@antoniomiranda5727]

I also had one glossy monitor and sold it because of that. Got myself a matte 32' 4k panel. Loving it! Glossy panels are great if you are not near a window.

[@pmcate2]

I think one detail people easily overlook is that although glossy finishes have specular reflections, those images are usually not in the same focus plane as the screen text/images, so your brain can filter them out more easily

[@asia911]

I remember removing these matte finish layer to my CRT monitor(even though I have to deal with static buildup) and it's astoundingly look so much better. I also did that with my older LCD monitor and the text are sharper and colours are more vibrant. I will NEVER go back to matte finish on a monitor.

[@itsjawick]

Then there's me who's just bought an anti-glare matte screen protector for my laptop because I hate glossy screens 🤣

[@cyberedge881]

You're a weirdo. All of you matte screen lovers are. And you've made us have to live with horrible image quality on gaming monitors

[@6384Patryk]

i had a gaming laptop with cheap glossy screen but i found it look much better with more vivid colors than my other mat screens

[@wildcall1]

Yes, exactly. As someone who edits photos and video professionally, I find glossy screens far superior. Twenty years ago, there was a thing about editing with matt screens, and people would pay extra for photo editing screens that were matt. I think partly because people couldn’t clearly see the difference because all screens were pretty low contrast then. Even then though, in reality matt screens were hard to edit on, and now that contrast ratios have taken off, the difference is much more obvious. Reflections on glossy screens are, as you indicate, really a non-issue unless you position the screen really badly, and in that case a matt screen will be at least as bad. So, you summarised my thoughts on the subject pretty neatly.

[@_sparrowhawk]

Intentionally buying something that is reflective TO WORK ON...?! you do you man.

[@wildcall1]

@@_sparrowhawk they are all reflective. Just a question whether you prefer controlled reflection, or it smudged all over the screen, with killed contrast.

[@xmgsx]

Matte Sucks. And it’s reflective too, just looks terrible and the contrast and colors are awful. Glossy is the way to go every time. Sad there are no pc monitors at all.

[@serene-illusion]

I've had a laptop with a glossy display before. When I got my new one with a matte anti-glare display, sure, I could see the difference between sharpness, but honestly the matte display was SO much less of a headache when bringing my laptop around. I'm sadly not "gamer" enough that I hole up in my room all day where I can have control over the lighting. I like to bring my laptop around even if it's just to the living room and not having to deal with bright reflections from outside or indoor light or even looking at my own reflection and it was a godsend even when playing games. I'll personally stick with matte for laptops, but with what you've pointed out regarding image sharpness and contrast, wouldn't mind for there to be a much wider option for other gamers to choose. Especially for gaming monitors, since compared to laptops, is likely gonna stay in a particular room with set lighting conditions for a VERY long time

[@arm8636]

was it a MacBook u had ?

[@cyberedge881]

Matte screens suck. They look horrible

[@amaurybeysson2749]

I really hope its gonna be release, i wish for a glossy screen for a long time

[@d1gw33d]

I've been using an LG OLED (4K/120hz/Gsync) for over a year now as my main PC monitor. It's glossy. It's vastly better to look at than all other monitors I've ever used - and I've used some good ones. Acer Predators lines (XB32, XB27, Z32P, etc.)

[@HungTran-wf3gu]

Have u have problem with eyes strain with oled screen?

[@thanewulfgar]

You are the first person to do a video that explains exactly how I feel. I want glossy panels on all my tech. If someone made a glossy ultra wide that would be amazing. I agree with laptops need the glossy screen too.

[@prathmeshpande]

RIGHT!? Few weeks ago I was servicing my uncle's sony Vaio VPCEB16FG (ik ultra old but still works), and my brother's ideapad 330S Even though the Vaio being sooo old, the Glossy display (maybe IPS idk, cus i didn't see any TN/VA- ness like extreme color shift) on it is FANTASTIC as compared to the IPS, Matte Panel of 330S. And the reflections were realistically non issue for my uncle and me both.

[@_prizefyter]

I've always thought this. Dave2D speaks my language on this one. To manufacturers and marketers, yes, I do want a glossy screen.

[@freejordn]

I had an HP Pavilion x360 for a few years leading up to the end of 2020. I always loved that screen. It had touchscreen capabilities, so because of that, it had a glossy finish. I never even used the touchscreen, because I didn't want to get finger prints all over my display. I had never seen a laptop screen like that before, and I loved it. Then, at the end of 2020, I bought the HP Omen, which was my first Gaming Laptop, and gave my Pavilion to my mother, and while I still have, and love my HP Omen, I am, to this day, jealous that she has that glossy screen. Like you said in the video, it just looked amazing. It made everything just look incredibly clean, and sleek. I would LOVE to get a Gaming Laptop with a glossy screen. Anyway, great video!

[@mcgibs]

The glossy ones should be the new standard. The matte ones should be rebranded as anti-reflective.

[@phridays]

Super agree. Actually I just diffused my windows in semi-transparent foamy white film behind my curtains. There's an untapped gamer product category: no glare window film. For people who want to let light in and don't live in their mom's basement, but also want to game without glare. Or DuoLingo. Dave's shirt says "Ice Cream" btw

[@ascerta]

I used to peel off the matte vinyl from my gaming laptops when possible and was always amazed how great it looked afterwards. But yeah. If there is a lot of light and reflection, it sucks. Also, some of the vinyls are polarized, so be mindful if you want to peel off anyhing.

[@ssghosh11]

Hi Dave, I do follow your channel and really like your videos. Personally, I did not like the glossy screens initially. Around 2010, I bought myself a gaming laptop, Dell XPS or something. But when I started to use it I felt that glossy is much better than matte finish. It helps with the contrast ratio and ultimately helps the overall picture/video quality. Now, I would actually prefer glossy over matte.