THE PROBLEM WITH THE DARK KNIGHT'S VICTOR ZSASZ

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@Duskof81 9 ай бұрын

Because the guy doesn't have any lines, barely if any presence, and you wouldn't know he was an actual named comic character if you didn't research it or knew him before seeing it.

@funkyreapercat5280 9 ай бұрын

"I don't 'TRY', and i never stop." - Victor Zsasz in Gotham.

@randallflagg3700 9 ай бұрын

"You won't see me coming.... and you won't feel a thing." (the most badass boast from Victor in that show

@elphiegleason3899 8 ай бұрын

He is my favorite version of the character

@RedAnimal100 9 ай бұрын

I really liked Victor in the gotham show. I actually forgot that Victor is in this triology

@Dunebat 9 ай бұрын

"How about Victor Zsasz?" Doesn't the Victor Zsasz from "Gotham" remind you of a spooky Billy Corgan?

@efrainrodriguez6092 9 ай бұрын

Gotham had the best version of this character 🔥🔥

@waltergaming817 9 ай бұрын

To be fair, to be legally insane, you have to be unaware that your actions are wrong. I don’t think this Zsasz is unaware that he’s hurting people

@SeasideDetective2 9 ай бұрын

Definitely. In the comics of the past, he referred to all his victims as "zombies," implying that they were not truly human and thus permissible to kill. But like almost all serial killers, he could be very manipulative, so it was clear he was lying.

@JohnWilliams-wl9px 9 ай бұрын

@@SeasideDetective2that’s the thing most of Batman’s villains flat out wouldn’t be deemed legally insane. Even if Victor thinks his victims as zombies it still wouldn’t be enough to be too mentally ill to stand trial, even if

@randallflagg3700 9 ай бұрын

@@JohnWilliams-wl9px - Indeed. Lots of people have mental health issues. That doesn't make them immune from prosecution.... in the US, a huge chunk of the prison & jail populations; in 2022, an estimated 44% of those in jail and 37% of those in prison in the US have a mental illness, going from psychotic disorder to depression, anxiety and addiction issues. Just being mentally ill doesn't protect you from prison, you have to prove that you didn't know what you were doing when you committed the crime, that you didn't know right from wrong at the time. And even then, it's not like lots of people believe, that "you just get a slap on the wrist and they let you go"... Being locked up in an asylum is arguably worse that being in prison. The upside is that you probably won't need to join a gang for you safety; the downside is that if you weren't crazy before, after a few years of force-feeding you neuroleptics and locking you in isolation "so you don't hurt yourself or others", you might just become nuts. And once you're in the system, good luck getting out; it's not like after a few years you can change you mind and ask to be moved to a regular prison, you're there for the long run...

@BigJonB36 9 ай бұрын

He's not insane in a way he'd be considered non-culpable for his crimes. Of all of Batman's rogues, only a couple (The Ventriloquist, Humpty Dumpty, maybe Maxi Zeus and King Tut) would actually clear that hurdle

@jayb8934 8 ай бұрын

Which is why the "legally insane" defense that is used to explain why they don't just execute the Joker or other Batman villains isn't actually realistic. They are psychotic in that they have no remorse or empathy for their victims, but they are aware that their actions are wrong. The Joker absolutely knows that he is causing pain and suffering, and takes delight in it. If I understand correctly, this proves that he can be held legally responsible for his actions.

@juiceekay7428 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, Zsasz in Begins felt more easter egg than cameo, like there for face & not substance, tbh. You should also do a video on Nolan’s “implied” villains like Coleman Reese being The Riddler & Barsad being Deadshot.

@MadMax-de5uh 9 ай бұрын

The big black dude on the boat in the dark knight is implied to be killer croc aswell

@dillydraws 9 ай бұрын

Deadshot and croc was in the Gotham knight movie which is supposed to be connected to the nolan films.

@juiceekay7428 9 ай бұрын

@@MadMax-de5uhNah that was my boy *DEEBO.*

@MistyDusker 9 ай бұрын

That's how I'll always see him too.

@randallflagg3700 9 ай бұрын

@@MadMax-de5uh - Tommy "Tiny" Lister (RIP big guy) was never implied to be Killer Croc, not sure were you got that... I remember the fan discussions about _John Barsad_ possibly being Deadshot because of his outfit, which turned out to be false, but on the bright side Josh Stewart ended up playing Garth Ennis' Mennonite aka _John Pilgrim_ in *The Punisher* season 2 (he likes his Johns, eh?) Then of course, fans wondered if Mr Reese would turn out to be the Riddler in TDKRises... but he wasn't. Long story short, those 2 kinda made sense, but Tiny Lister as Killer Croc... why? Because he's big and black? I'm genuinely asking, because I might have missed something.

@shinkaiatsuya950 9 ай бұрын

I loved the Victor Zsasz in Gotham. Was just a fun villain to like, not sure how Gotham did it. Reminded me if Bullseye from the Daredevil movie. I unapologetically enjoy Colin Farrel Bullseye.

@juiceekay7428 9 ай бұрын

Zsasz in Gotham was so fun & the reason why I think Anthony Carrigan needs to be cast as live-action Saitama.

@mrcritical6751 9 ай бұрын

The only real problem with Zsaz in that show is the fact they introduce his iconic tally marking gimmick during his first appearance but never actually do anything with it. We never see him build the marks up overtime or see a full body shot of him so we can see all the scars he has given himself. Like imagine having a mini arc throughout one of the seasons where we see him give himself the forehead tally’s over the course of a few episodes, that could have been cool

@randallflagg3700 9 ай бұрын

@@juiceekay7428 - Anthony Carrigan being cast as Rex Mason/Metamorpho for *Superman: Legacy* is already a big win for us *Gotham* fans! Between him and David Dastmalchian that's 2 of my favorite actors that this show gave a bit push to.

@randallflagg3700 9 ай бұрын

@@mrcritical6751 - Well they don't show the scars after that but they did do something with the concept in season 5. Remember when Poison Ivy manipulate Zsasz? When Gordon & Bullock later interrogates him he argues that that had he really killed all those people, his body would be covered in fresh new scars. Sadly we would have to wait the terrible show *Batwoman* (seasons 2&3 in 2021/2022) for a Mr Zsasz that we see give himself the forehead tally on screen. That show sucked, but the 2 episodes in which Victor appeared were pretty entertaining. Alex Morf, who also had a small role in *Gotham* season 5, does a great job emulating Carrigan's Zsasz. Like him (and Tim Booth & Chris Messina's version) he's an assassin for hire rather than a serial killer, and he uses all kinds of weapons instead of just relying on knives. And like the one from *Gotham* , Zsasz from *Batwoman* also has a sense of humor, which can be a bit jarring for comic book readers but hey, it's a pretty fun result so I'm not complaining.

@RaptorRed 9 ай бұрын

“How about victor zsasz?”

@Shawn4815162342 8 ай бұрын

How 'bout Victor Zsasz! How 'bout Victor Zsasz! How 'bout Victor Zsasz! How 'bout Victor Zsasz! How 'bout Victor Zsasz! ... i LOVE the 'Gotham' version of Zsasz

@teo_the_riddler 9 ай бұрын

Dude I'M STARVING for more Gotham content! I love that show and especially your thoughts on it!

@RonnieFlare17 4 ай бұрын

Yeah Zsasz is just kinda there. They could have called him Gregory Julian Day and nothing would have been different. But the actor does his best with what he's given. Thanks for covering this!

@chasepalestrant1264 9 ай бұрын

I always enjoyed the Gotham Zsasz. So how about Victor zsasz.

@PureMaddnessOne 9 ай бұрын

Well Bane in Dark Knight Rises is smart, until it is found out he is henchmen, than he turns into a idiot.

@qty1315 9 ай бұрын

One of my favourite 'plotholes' in Dark Knight Rises is that Batman didn't just keep throwing batarangs at Bane. It's just a funny thing to think about. We know he has a bunch of them, and that Bane is just a guy. So, if the dose on that one batarang he threw wasn't enough to put him to sleep, why didn't he just keep throwing more until he finally went down?

@theemperor912 9 ай бұрын

How about Victor Zsasz

@morgfeatures 9 ай бұрын

How bout Victor Zsasz! Love Anthony and his portrayal on Gotham is very fun… accurate to the comics tho???

@SeasideDetective2 9 ай бұрын

My introduction to Zsasz was what was arguably his most famous comic book appearance: Batman Comics' "Red Slash," in 1993. At the time, I was shocked that such a violent and sadistic character would be included in a comic that children would read (although DC did show restraint in not showing Zsasz killing any women, which he threatened to do throughout the story). At the time I disdained him as one of Batman's "nouveau" villains: one who lacked a circus-like gimmick and leaned heavily into realism. All these years later, I've come to recognize that such villains have their place. But I still think there should be fewer serial killers in the Rogues Gallery. These men (and, in at least one case, a woman) are intelligent, certainly, but in an "animal" sort of way.

@chuchmaster23 9 ай бұрын

Never knew he was in bb til this video🔥

@Horneroid 8 ай бұрын

“How about Victor Zsasz?” I really hope it’s not too late to ask for that video. I think Zsasz was one of the best characters in Gotham.

@Creatives_2009 8 ай бұрын

I had no idea Victor zsasz was in this film

@TheBoondocksaint117 9 ай бұрын

How about Viktor Szasz? Anthony Corrigan's portrayal instantly became my favorite version of the character.

@DetectiveLance 9 ай бұрын

I didnt remember that Zasz was in the movie. But i remembered that face, gods damn.

@synthblxxd 9 ай бұрын

a video about victor Zsasz from Gotham would be fire 🙏

@beckmania1066 9 ай бұрын

I really want to hear you talk about Gotham’s Zsasz, so… “How about Victor Zsasz?”

@Ace.2260 9 ай бұрын

How about Victor zasz

@spacejam8765 9 ай бұрын

He's just there. He had more lines in the ps2 Batman Begins game. 😂

@solomonrichards599 9 ай бұрын

Can you do a video on Gotham's Selina?

@SuperAlfern 9 ай бұрын

He is little old, but I still think Brad Dourif would be great as Zsaz. I only know the Zsaz from Arkham City, and he was so creepy.

@randallflagg3700 9 ай бұрын

Maybe I'm just curious, but did you think about Brad Dourif because of his role as Luther Lee Boggs from *The X-Files* ? Since he plays a kins of Hannibalesque-Zsaszesque character locked in a maximum security prison, and that the cops (or Batman in Victor's case) come to him for information in certain incarnations.... I could see it.

@SuperAlfern 9 ай бұрын

@@randallflagg3700 Actually, I was thinking of the Gemini Killer from Exorcist 3.

@AndersHass 8 ай бұрын

I guess a way it could work is the fear toxin made Victor Zsasz in this series into something more familiar to the one in the comics. I dunno if the video game takes place after the movie or they are supposed to be the same story like so many other tie in video games for movies, lol. But otherwise it might as well had been an original character in the movie that could just have a visual nod to Zsasz without being him.

@blackhawkinsomniaclyrics410 8 ай бұрын

HOW ABOUT VICTOR ZSASZ!!! I love Gotham and everything involved with it

@Mokujinko 9 ай бұрын

Gotham Zsasz really disappointed me, especially as the show went on and he felt less threatening and unpredictable and more just sassy. In a word, he felt Marvelized.

@mg9138 9 ай бұрын

He's my favorite character in all three of those movies. He's so cool.

@loganboyd6609 9 ай бұрын

How about victor zsasz

@Aaron-zt5ee 8 ай бұрын

The weird thing about Victor Zzasz is that I think he has had the most live action versions.

@AndersHass 8 ай бұрын

I think you lack some more context. Like I doubt there has been more versions of Victor Zsasz than Batman. I would think for villains others have also had more versions.

@Aaron-zt5ee 8 ай бұрын

Joker probably beats him, come to think of it. I guess I'm more surprised because he's a bit of a c-list villain.

@musicallystoned7489 2 ай бұрын

Really wish they could've pushed Tim Booth more with his Zsasz portrayal. Off topic, but the man's got a beautiful voice with his band James.

@diegodreossi1458 9 ай бұрын

Gotham Zsasz is the best. He was in Batwoman too.

@biguy617 9 ай бұрын

Do a video on Richard Moll who voiced Two Face in Batman animated series

@BigJonB36 9 ай бұрын

I like Zsasz, but I don't like him working for the mob. He's better as a serial killer than a hitman

@Movienerd092 9 ай бұрын

He was more of a cameo than an actual presence

@matiktherapper7094 9 ай бұрын

How about Victor ZSASZ he is a crazy guy

@JohnWilliams-wl9px 9 ай бұрын

Comic Zsasz if he was real he would totally be capable of standing trial and be sent to regular prison (and by extension death penalty). There were many IRL serial killers who are just as depraved as Zsasz or even worst.

@void_kitsune9381 9 ай бұрын

Hello Victor zass

@DragoKwan 9 ай бұрын

How about Victor Zsasz?

@Athyxer 9 ай бұрын

Since when was victor in the dark knight?!

@emperorsean1 9 ай бұрын

That was Victor Zsasz? He was just in the background.

@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive 9 ай бұрын

I don't get why every live action Victor Zsasz is always a mob hitman instead of a lone wolf serial killer. He's one in Batman Begins, Gotham, and Birds of Prey and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn. Has he ever appeared as a serial killer outside the comics and video games?

@robertfrancismagician4210 7 ай бұрын

Please talk about victor zsasz from Gotham !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@markdenton3141 9 ай бұрын

I forgot about this dude

@LuisRamirez-de7lm 9 ай бұрын

how about victor zsasz ?

@arzn253 9 ай бұрын

I hope Mr. Zsasz shows up in The Batman Part 2. He was wasted in the Nolan trilogy. How 'bout Victor Zsasz?!

@robertfrancismagician4210 9 ай бұрын

How about victor zsasz?

@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb 9 ай бұрын

🥶🥶

@morrisbeauregard286 9 ай бұрын

How 'bout Victor Zsasz? or How about Victor Zsasz. I couldn't totally tell which one it was. But I'm always down for more Gotham stuff.

@MVP7689 9 ай бұрын

Zsasz in Gotham was great. I barely remember Zsasz in Batman Begins How about Victor Zsasz

@TheStrings-83639 9 ай бұрын

I like how “the problem with...” videos are always about Dark Knight characters, as if it's spesifically made to point out that those films are not perfect.

@Dr_1212 9 ай бұрын

🦇👍

@vanillapanda2932 9 ай бұрын

How about victor sazz

@jaynol2225 9 ай бұрын

How bout Victor zaz

@Kuudere-Kun 8 ай бұрын

No Zsasz even in the comics does not fit the legal definition of Insanity, no Batman Villain does not even The Joker, the legal dentition required literally not understanding the consequences of your actions. I think the original idea behind the entire Crane falsely getting people sent to Arkham was in general supposed to explain Arkham having so many clearly mentally coherent criminals there.

@AnvilPictures 9 ай бұрын

How about Victor Zsasz!

@THE_Dodge_Morningstar 9 ай бұрын

😂Hey Vee, what's up with this explosion of creative production? How long have you been doing this? Weeks? Months? Absolute Hoss. Lol You ok though? No phantom of the opera situation over there, right? Where's this Patreon...

@joshfactor1 9 ай бұрын

yeah, i think gotham did it better

@forex_shark6042 9 күн бұрын

Victor from The Penguin grown up?

@MuriloAraújo-j2x 9 ай бұрын

Tdk made every villain boring imo.sorry,dont wanna offend anyone.

@KvotheofAdemre 9 ай бұрын

How about Victor Zsas.

@schizz 9 ай бұрын

03:00

@hansoharrigen6958 9 ай бұрын

To be fair, Victor Zsasz isn't that important in the comics either, I don't see the problem using him this way. To me the best uses minor villain in the trilogy's gotta be Maroni, as he basically acts as that universe's version of the Penguin

@Shift_Salt 9 ай бұрын

It's a problem because it's a use in name only, whether a character is minor or not doesn't matter. Like imagine if Joker never became a "iconic" batman villain but still stuck around only for films to not really embody how he is as a character accurately. Hell, that already happens even. A lot of these takes on characters are not accurate or try to rework the characters to fit an idea for how the creatives want to do them not in a way that's mostly in line with how they're usually depicted. Characters shouldn't just be a face or name you slap onto anyone, if they're labeled as such they should be recognizable. But using Zsaz in this? It's not only not that recognizable it's entirely forgettable and throw away. Characters who actually have noteworthy qualities and a stronger presence than some random goons or crooks shouldn't be handled the same. Otherwise what's the point in even calling them anything besides "Criminal #42" or something, it just diminishes those characters further and makes people think "Oh okay they're just a whatever character without anything noteworthy about them."