The Problem With The Flash (Wally West)

[@mistahmaniac7215]

Wally West: "Why cant I be happy in my own comic?" Spiderman: "First time?"

[@godnyx117]

LMAO!!!! Spidercuck!

[@lovecand7minecrafthediamon834]

Tbh both are similar people lol

[@Mustideer]

@@godnyx117that’s wild bro whose Paul?😭

[@godnyx117]

@@Mustideer Never heard of him! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Mustideer]

@@godnyx117Paul? I barely know him😂 Wish I didn’t know

[@TetsuShima]

Wally's mistreatment during the last years becomes even more painful to watch when we consider that, shortly before the events of Crisis on Infinite Earths, he got tired of being a hero and decided to spend his time on his girlfriend and his studies instead, retiring the same time that Dick Grayson stopped being Robin. The fact he decided to replace Barry after his death, just when he finally got used to having a normal life, shows what a bro he is

[@WhoTookPlockrock]

We really do need to have a discussion about how for the New 52 they decided to reimagine Wally West as black, and they immediately decided that meant he was now a disaffected inner city youth with no father figure whose only hobby was tagging. There's SO MUCH to unpack about those decisions.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

What an awful decision.

[@tatersalad76]

"Let's make Wally a young black teenager to appeal to modern audiences." Ok, that can work. "Let's also make him every black teenager stereotype. Do you think Kool-Aid will sponsor us?" **facepalm**

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@tatersalad76 Nah dude, I'm sick of these race swaps. Should've just made a new character.

[@user-pv1qk4so6s]

My biggest issue was the evil uncle storyline ... I literally sat down and went through Miles Morales background less than a year before I encountered the Daniel West storyline

[@derekmayers-louther]

@@user-pv1qk4so6syeah it doesn’t seem like they cared enough to make a new black character other then blue beetle tweeks and he’s not even black

[@JakeTylenol]

Wally West was proof that legacy characters can work…and then DC randomly went:”Nah let’s undo all that” But at least he’s finding his place it seems like even if it’s shaky with stunts like killing him with a bullet

[@trevturp6891]

He's not finding his place at all.

[@trevturp6891]

DC doesn't do legacy characters anymore.

[@zhisangchen4562]

@@trevturp6891 Barry is literally the one without a title. Current Flash ongoing and the one that will launch in September is all Wally😅 it’s been like this for two years now. Funny thing is the two flash miniseries coming up also has nothing to do with Barry.

[@tatersalad76]

Sad thing is that everything Barry is "known" and loved for was 99% all Wally

[@zeropen0719]

yeah even the personality and way of acting as a person was Wally West but blonde,im sure because of the early popularity of wally they made barry like him,I remember watching Justice League Unlimited and flash was my favorite character for example,and it was Wally,now i see Barry and Wally and they are the same character.

[@SeiLa-zf1sf]

It's more or less. I think the only thing they took from Wally and gave to Barry was the personality, but the origin story, love interest and the villains are still Barry's.

[@mr.continuity]

The origin and love interests are Barry’s tho. Especially his relationship with his mom.

[@TheBaris2002]

​​​​@@mr.continuityryone has a unique origin, wally has his and it is also great. Barry's interesting origin and relationship with his mom are all thanks to rebirth and flashpoint which in total is 12 issues or something (n52 run is bad and williamson run is 6/10). So the fact that many think these are some of the most relevant factors of the flash mythos as a whole is thanks to cw show whic is cool but just make the distinction. Also even though some villains such as rouges are original barry allen villains, they are given much more depth in waid's and johns' runs, and MOST speed force related characters(black flash, savitar, zoom...) are wally characters. Even reverse flash is given such a cool backstory thanks to the concept of a speed force developed and presented beautifully in the wally era. Many think we have wally thanks to barry, but a person can only love barry thanks to wally.

[@SanSan-jp1fr]

wasn't it Wally who made the "lightning rod" quote for him and Linda I remember seeing it in the Dead Heat storyline. And Barry even get's some of Wally's villains in the new 52 storyline

[@Merik2013]

It must be endlessly frustrating for talented and passionate writers like Jeremy Adams to spend an entire year fixing a beloved character like Wally West after a hack like Tom King completely ruined him for no reason, only for someone else to immediately kill him off as soon as he leaves the book.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

True, back to square one

[@WhoTookPlockrock]

It's legitimately frightening to me that the comic book community isn't willing to discuss the misogyny and demonization of mental illness that runs rampant in Tom King's books.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@WhoTookPlockrock misogyny? He's usually propping the women up , and making the men way too vulnerable. Feels like the opposite of misogyny.

[@WhoTookPlockrock]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp That itself is a form of misogyny, how he views women not as their own people but as saviors whose role is to find a man to "save". He views them almost exclusively as purpose-serving without agency, and has an extremely fucked up view of relationships

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@WhoTookPlockrock that's a good point. Was really weird seeing Catwoman act essentially as Batman's mommy.

[@comicstorian]

Never thought I'd be coming up with weekly mini essays and rambling my ADD brain into the void weekly. Thank you guys for embracing this format!

[@kingshadow8782]

😃

[@il12beast24]

Great vid

[@revenantpop3583]

Favorite

[@thesamuraiman]

Love this series. Thanks for doin' more

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

You make good points. A real shame how DC treats Wally West. Had a great opportunity with DC Rebirth to do something awesome after Wally's return. They need better leadership.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Most fans who came in from the CW series or the New 52 will never understand why we fogies keep yelling at clouds about Wally West. Suffice to say, it's a little frustrating that a lot of people won't know that Wally West is the Flash that gave you a lot of things that fans like about the Flash today. Plus, everyone loves a "I'm in someone else's shadow"-type story. Barry's only competition was Jay. And no one thinks Barry was in Jay's shadow. Nobody.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

It's a shame since they had such an amazing opportunity to capitalize on his return with DC Rebirth.

[@Merik2013]

To be fair, I'd just tell them to watch the old Justice League cartoon if they don't get why we like Wally West. He's literally the Flash most of us grew up with, not Barry.

[@benmackley4352]

Wallys the best flash by miles, him and nightwing are the best

[@justsomeguywithoutagooduse2731]

I still prefer Barry tbh, been reading the comics for a while now and I kinda prefer him over Wally tbh. I do love Wally in JL and JLA tho, it's just that I like Barry more. Also, bro you are everywhere

[@OhOh996]

Apparently I like Barry despite what people say, I really quite became fond of him especially in Joshua Williamson and Manupal’s own interpretation of him

[@Riqo2Suave]

Wally West was one of the only heroes that was successfully able to become a headlining legacy hero and it worked phenomenally, his personality, his character growth from sidekick to mainstay JL member, his family and his relationship w the wider universe were all so fleshed out that you couldn’t help but see him as the definitive flash, Barry while classic doesn’t compare to Wally and all the trials and tribulations he’s gone through, even with the CW Flash he picks up A LOT of core traits Wally had which left that version of Wally West w nothing to stand on character wise, it’s a shame new DC fans are unaware that Wally West defined the Flash for over 25 years and gave us all the things we live about that hero

[@vide0lover]

I agree. it annoyed me that when watching the CW show how many times I would go "That's a Wally thing" when they did something with Barry. They even had Barry date Linda Park for a bit and that was a slap in the face to Wally fans.

[@joshoaaquinoterrado105]

J nw noreen

[@The_Phantasm]

The problem with Wally West is that Barry Allen didn't stay dead. Geoff Johns just wanted to bring back the characters he grew up reading regardless of the repercussions it would have on the existing DC universse.

[@yashwant7109]

Yeah, but Barry Allen is the FIRST and FASTEST Flash (/s)

[@The_Phantasm]

No he isn't. Jay Garrick is the first Flash and Wally is the fastest Flash.

[@BardiaOmega]

@@The_Phantasm I prefer Barry over both

[@yashwant7109]

​@@The_Phantasm /s means sarcasm my guy

[@The_Phantasm]

@@BardiaOmega Cool. I prefer Wally.

[@void4246]

We will miss you thank you for the years of amazing content and giving people hope through your videos RIP

[@TetsuShima]

Really feel bad for Wally after the New 52 reboot, with him being completely forgotten by DC during five f*cking years. It is pretty sad the fact Doctor Manhattan himself had to intervene to bring our boy back

[@nickjcirillo]

And then they tried making “Wallace west”

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

​@Nick Cirillo the easiest way they could've done this was make Wallece be Wally's protégé.

[@trevturp6891]

Why is it sad that Doctor Manhattan himself had to intervene to bring our boy back?

[@TetsuShima]

@@trevturp6891 Because a nihilistic God from other universe having to intervine in order to save Wally from the writer's mistreatment towards him is something that already speaks for itself

[@trevturp6891]

@@TetsuShima Thanks for answering my question.👍👍👍👍

[@omegaminoseer4539]

Wally West proving that he's DC's Spider-Man is one of the grimmest and purest moments of my enjoyment with the series. No amount of happiness can be given to him forever, since if he's too happy... [Insert Problem]?

[@voltmatrix1250]

“Wally’s a fricking punching bag”- summarises the entire video.

[@premiumo0o]

RIP bro.

[@ZatchZXman]

We know Wally's not dead. We know he wasn't going to stay dead for long. HOWEVER. Now I want to know how he survives, who killed him, and what the Titans are going to do about it. This mystery is going to be one helluva ride!

[@Missing_Nin]

He runs towards the cosmic treadmill in his last moments so it seem like the dead Wally is from the future. The current Wally probably won’t be killed at all.

[@trevturp6891]

Wally West's totally dead. We know that and let's not pretend that we don't.

[@highlander2319]

I’ve always been torn between Wally and Barry. I grew up with the Justice League shows, so technically I grew up with Wally, but Barry just feels so right as the flash as well. It hurts to see Wally cast aside for so long though

[@baligong3592]

Why not do what I do and take both? I grew up in a time Barry was dead, so Wally is the Main Flash, but I also spent some time appreciating Barry as the Flash as well. Personally, I love both and desire if they can Batman & Nightwing them both into Comics.

[@trevturp6891]

@@baligong3592 Do you mean that you would change Wally West's superhero name? Because that's exactly what i would do and that's also what DC should have done in the first place, instead of stupidly deciding to have Barry Allen and Wally West both be The Flash at the same time for some incredibly stupid reason that makes absolutely no sense whatsover.

[@baligong3592]

@@trevturp6891 The issue with Barry & Wally has nothing to do with their names. Green Lanterns, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, etc. all share names with other characters existing alongside them. Issue with Barry & Wally comes down to portrayal and/or even the fact that some fans behaves as if Barry was created in 2009 and stole everything from Wally, including his suit. Barry is a Introverted Science Nerd who's Privately Central City's best CSI, willing to do what's right because it's right. I can also add that he's a Momma's Boy. Wally West is an Extroverted Jock who has a Public Identity of being The Flash, or in some other stories, Privately a Mechanic. Willing to do what's right because it's what Barry would've done. He also has Family Issues. They should highlight these 2 distinctions, and give both characters their own respective run. Stories that makes Wally move to Central City, have a Private Identity, use a Generic Flash suit, work with the Police (or in Jeremy Adam's Case: in a Lab), etc. causes some fans to be confused. What made Wally special was stripped away from him when Geoff Johns wrote him back in the 2000s. They should at least give Wally's suit more differences rather than white eyes and nose job, since it's pretty clear most Comic Artists still gets confused.

[@zemox2534]

​@Trev Turp No, they don't. They need to just fuckjng kill off Barry again and just let Wally be the flash and then have him pass on the mantle to a worthy successor.

[@RepeatedAxe]

@@baligong3592 The Green Lanterns are a Corp, Not sure what you mean with Wonder Women, and it really isn't the same with Spider-man, every other Spider-person goes by Spider-man or woman in their respective universes, and even in 616, pretty much every other Spider-person has their own personal persona, other than Miles who shares Peters name. The Scarlet Spiders sometimes share a name, but Marvel's been Screwing over Ben Reilly for a while now.

[@SuperGorak]

DC's understanding of a character's nuance seems to be on Zack Snyder's level: just abuse the character, that should "build character".

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Don't forget: Treat them all like gods, and forget about their humanity

[@savages-on-deck]

Wally and Peter should crossover and discuss how terrible their lives are 💀💀

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

If WB would've gotten their stuff together, we could've gotten an amazing live action comic accurate Wally West in a definitive DC cinematic universe.

[@trevturp6891]

With his own superhero name and finally getting out of his mentor's shadow.

[@chasehaver8367]

R.I.P

[@ToonamiT0M]

Minor correction. The Savatar story that explains away Heroes in Crisis takes place after Wally gets and gives up the Mobius Chair.

[@TevyaSmolka]

yup that's right

[@cosmicgrub360]

Wally was manipulated by thawne using the negative speed force, and the explosion was due to the speed for basically trying to remove savitar with speed force energy surges, flash foward ended with flash becoming dr manhattan enhanced in exchange his kids are restored

[@Bobbybillybillbob]

Wally is the only sidekick to filly take on the mantle of his predecessor and also maintain that title for more then a decade! Bucky took up Cap for a short while, but no other sidekick has ever surpassed their predecessor in popularity other then Wally West, also one of the few superheroes who didn't have a tragic story with his family murdered... Give Barry the emotional drama, let Wally be happy!

[@Bobertium]

Poor Wally he is my favorite superhero, so it’s sad to see him be tortured like this.

[@Fancyhomer]

i live for Benny ranting about comics and their writers

[@ljeans531]

Wally had one of the most well thought out journey in comics as a side kick to filling the shoes our your Hero, Idol, and Father figure. He then became his own man and his character arc was reaching its end. Now i dont mind what they did with erasing him and bringing him back, but its the way they did it that caused problems. They could have taken him off-world so he could still be in the same timeline and universe snd still be friends with Dick. But instead its this convoluted nonsense.

[@trevturp6891]

He didn't become his own man. He's always remained in Barry Allen's shadow and as long as he's The Flash, he'll always be in Barry Allen's shadow.

[@trevturp6891]

Why don't you mind that they erased him?

[@ljeans531]

@@trevturp6891 Well, 2 responses. He definitely out grew barry shadow in the 90s and 2000s. In my opinion, and what I mean is I don't mind them erasing his and bringing him back after. I would mind if they just permanently erased him.

[@trevturp6891]

@@ljeans531 Who are you talking about aside from Wally West?

[@trevturp6891]

@@ljeans531 But he's been thrown back into it now.

[@diegodreossi1458]

Wally is my favorite Flash, and the rebirth suit is his best. Legacy characters are amazing, the classic titans deserve more respect.

[@whathappenswhenimbored]

Wally West is the Peter Parker of DC. Eternal punching bag who the writers can never let experience happiness for any substantial amount of time.

[@sangera]

"Don't worry I am not gonna jump super far back like I've done in many of these videos. So in 1959-" that got me hard.

[@thunderlightning1980]

Abra Kadabra is a 1987 Flash villain not a Titans villain. Also Barry came back right before Blackest Night.

[@MrRobot1984]

Main problem is they can’t stop character assassinating him

[@trevturp6891]

And that they haven't given him a new superhero name, which is something they should have done a long time ago.

[@12oshinko]

Wally, Kyle, Connor, Conner, Tim, Donna, and the rest all got done dirty

[@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin]

Yep, DC is pandering to the wrong crowd

[@Bghehllo]

I hope they give this dude Wallace more recognition

[@themace2055]

Wally West in the DCAU was a beast. I hate that he’s been abused by the writers

[@ChrisDeebo]

Honestly for the longest time I've been convinced that DC writers hate the fact that Bruce Timm created a universe with incredibly popular characters and have gone out of their way to erase them all I mean think about it how long have Wally West,John Stewart, Martian Manhunter, Static/Milestone been getting short end of the stick at DC. Seems too intentional imo

[@JCShadow0202]

Wally West was the only flash I ever knew about, I rewatched the 2 seasons of Justice League animated series on dvd/Netflix over and over again growing up; especially when Batman revealed his identity, Wally and Flash became inseparable in my mind. I was actually shocked when I found out about Barry Allen. “Wally West is Kid Flash from teen titans?” Was my first thought

[@unixmoon4842]

Just one correction on part of the history stuff - the part where Wally goes back to heroes in crisis and finds out it was really savitar's fault was actually the end of Jeremy Adams' first arc on the flash in the 2021 annual

[@Werewolf914]

I loved Wally West because of the Justice League/Justice League Unlimited cartoons he was my favorite Flash and he was awesome in the books early on but then the books especially stories like Heroes In Crisis just kept doing the character dirty and they just kept ruining him, I just want good Wally stories I hope they bring him into the movies one day

[@trevturp6891]

And you should hope that they change his superhero name.

[@spgamer3187]

Yeesh and here I wanted him back in the Young Justice show. Guess that ain't gonna happen no more

[@adhambarbour]

Fang isn't interested in this because she knows that they'll bring him back. She's not biting into this hype.😅

[@TetsuShima]

*Fun fact:* For those who wanted Wally to permanently be Flash, in the novelization of Crisis on Infinite Earths, Barry stays dead forever, as the epilogue show us a flashforward in which Wally is still the only Flash when Bart Allen is already a kid. It was truly a satisfying moment

[@thezoomdoctrine]

The thing about that is that it’s a different timeline so it didn’t even matter.

[@armanakcadurniga]

those who watched Justice League will understand and love Wally; this is why I hate what they did to him. He was the Flash that a lot literally grew up with.

[@starlord1521]

Remember when Bart Allen was meant to be the Flash but was sabotaged? I still remember....

[@NsPlayz-games]

Rest in peace Ben 🙏🏽

[@trillionwins2028]

Peace*

[@NsPlayz-games]

@@trillionwins2028 autocorrect mb

[@KenFromchicago]

This is like when Deathstroke "killed" Firestorm with a sword stabbing. 😱😠

[@douglaz2053]

So they basically made Wally the Spiderman of DC

[@jlwest23]

Garth is another one as writers dont want to do anything with him. They would rather use Caldur than garth and even with him they just run into the grown.

[@tundra2861]

As a Barrychad, I do honestly feel bad for how they treat Wally

[@ranadips]

Wally west is to DC what peter parker is to Marvel, the writers just hate it when he is happy and they gotta fuck up his life.

[@Chriso22]

I learned about the flash mainly from the cw but i like wally in the comics and this might be wishful thinking but i think they should really make a tv series for wally for the fans.

[@Sperg10]

I absolutely love these videos, easily some of my favorite videos that Benny makes.

[@knoober3756]

The problem with Wally is that Barry’s still alive, and now that Wally was the flash for so long he can’t reach his maximum potential with Barry around

[@baligong3592]

Sounds like the issue of the character at that point. It's like saying Nightwing's issues is that Batman is Alive. If all these characters like Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Batman, Captain America, etc. can overcome their losses of other characters and still not have issues, even if they [the dead Hero, or even Villain in some cases] comes back to life, then Wally West should also not have the same issue. But if all these characters do not suffer, but this one particular character became garbage from another one coming back to life, what does that say about the character?

[@knoober3756]

@@baligong3592 except Wally has no role outside of being flash. He’s kinda irrelevant if he isn’t the flash as nightwing is firmly established as his own man outside of Batman. Wally unfortunately is not outside the shadow of the flash mantle.

[@baligong3592]

@@knoober3756 How about the Green Lanterns? Spider-Men? Thor Corps? Anyone from IronMan's Respective Crew? If Wally isn't Outside the shadow of The Flash, it would mean the title of The Flash is bigger than Wally, making him more susceptible for replacement despite having great stories. Artemis, Donna, and Diana are all the Current Wonder Woman, are all Greek, but all 3 still get stories to this day. What one Wonder Woman is can't be replaced easily with the other. I believe Wally is bigger than the Title. It's seems already clear Barry and Jay are too. Barry the Science Uncle Flash, Jay the Soldier Grandpa Flash, Wally the Fast Flash? The Family Flash? But now even Jay Garrick is ripping that Specialty away from him. What I'm trying to do is get you to thinking "what makes Wally something bigger than The Flash?" Because if he's just "The Grieving Flash" like some perceive him to be, then he's going to get absolutely bullied by Editorial, Writers, Artists, etc. Like Heroes in Crisis.

[@gentlemanbronco3246]

@@baligong3592apples and oranges. The green lantern corps works cause they are an army. Night wing is his own established character. Wally West however was a successor and truly grew to earn the mantle of the Flash. He's not the grieving Flash or whatever the fuck kind of labels you wanna put on him. He is the one and only Flash.

[@thezoomdoctrine]

@@gentlemanbronco3246 One and only flash? Not sure how accurate that is

[@peterbishop5155]

Thank you Benny -- your video helped ease my pain when it comes to this character. As a teenager in the 80's, the only comic I read, each month, without fail were issues 275-350 of The Flash. Barry Allen was my favorite character in DC Comics and I was crushed when they killed him in Crisis. I thought there was no way Wally could replace Barry, but I gave the new Flash book a try -- and for 20+ years, Wally surpassed Barry in my mind and became the definitive Flash. I did love when they brought Barry back in Flash Rebirth, but little did I realize that it certainly was the start of the horrible way DC treated Wally from that point forward. First they basically phased Wally out of existence in the New 52, but NOTHING was more painful than when they had the audacity to bring back "Wally West" as a street thug who had absolutely no ties to the last FIFTY YEARS of great Flash stories -- Yes, this "Wally West" was black, but that was not the problem - the problem was he was named Wally West. Had they just called this new kid any other name, at least the incredible heroic legacy of Wally West would have remained intact, but they wiped all of that out in their quest for diversity. As you stated in the video, they did bring back the true Wally West, but then immediately made him do things so out of character in Heroes in Crisis that just made me ill that I stopped reading current issues of DC Comics. Thanks for letting me know that they ret-conned Heroes in Crisis and gave Wally a reunion with his wife and kids. Sadly, you indicate some pathetic, lazy writer just killed him once he found happiness again -- which make me think my decision to stop reading current DC comics was the right one.

[@DiscernedWaters]

what do you mean by street thug?

[@peterbishop5155]

@@DiscernedWaters. Sadly, that is exactly how he was written early on when he was first introduced. Even DC’s own website says the following: Wallace R. West Wallace grew up as something of a delinquent; he was disobedient and a troublemaker. When Wallace's mother went missing when the Crime Syndicate tore through Central City, his aunt Iris West took him in but even she couldn't keep him out of trouble.[3]

[@DiscernedWaters]

Ok that's fine maybe he could've been introduced as a Ne character rather than a New Wally

[@trevturp6891]

Actually the first terrible thing DC did to Wally West was not giving his own superhero codename, a brand new superhero costume, and his own book, after they brought back Barry Allen.

[@trevturp6891]

DC is still mistreating Wally West by not giving him his own superhero codename.

[@banks6264]

What you said about Garth I completely agreed & Cried laughing at your response on his chit chat to Night wing !!

[@karlheinzknoch1477]

Wally is the Ben Reilly of DC 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@bladedomega9702]

Exactly I'm glad Benny had sense to point that out, the moment the click of the gun was heard Wally should have already disarmed the guy man, ugh these writers are ridiculous this is what happens when u write overpowered characters

[@kyleellis1825]

Fans didn't throw a fit when Barry was killed by the Joker in the movie. DC figures no body really cares.

[@bladedomega9702]

@@kyleellis1825 they only care when the character is put in a VS's series like deathbattle.

[@trevturp6891]

Correction, the gun man.

[@trevturp6891]

@@kyleellis1825 Actually fans did throw a fit.

[@TheZeroAssassin]

Even as slow as he was after COIE. Wally had been shot in the back of the neck in a movie theater, but his speed kicked in instinctively the moment he felt something touch back of his neck. And he was able to catch every bullet fired and save the crowd, And this was when he was speed of sound tops. But they expect us to believe he can be shot from behind and it just takes him by surprise? These idiots need to READ about the characters they write

[@theazignogaming4948]

I fucking love your contact. I’ve been watching you for years now.

[@Batman_gojo-f3o]

Wally is comic is the one of the best flash

[@fameasser123]

"Don't worry, I'm not gonna jump super far back like I've done in many of these videos. Now in 1959." XD Lol.

[@johnnygreco2175]

He's the Peter Parker of DC. Poor dude can't catch a break.

[@Dr_Stranger3144]

"You'll wake up one day" 😂😂😂

[@dajiminrussell]

At this point Wally West is dc version of Spider-Man because he can never be happy

[@sebastianmyers4933]

15:44 HOW DARE YOU?! Garth deserves all the love in the world.

[@NinjapowerMS]

Wally turning into the green latern corps

[@Ben-rd3mg]

Getting rid of Wally in the first place was a big mistake. Having Bart be the next flash was the natural next step. Bringing back Barry has stagnated the flash mythos’s story telling

[@baligong3592]

1. They tried that, but Wally fans got upset about the story, and had Bart killed. 2. Barry didn't stagnate The Flash, since the original plan for Barry was to reintroduce him and continue the stories... Like how they did with Every Single Hero and Villain. 3. Don't blame the character since the character wasn't created in 2009 to replace Wally. He was simply brought back. Blame the Writers/Editorial for wanting Wally gone. None of us would say this about any other characters, let's not start now with Barry. We wouldn't even say this about Spider-Man who has been screwed over for 30 years out of 60 years of his existence.

[@trevturp6891]

Dude, every dc superhero mythos's story telling has been stagnated.

[@theflashfan3234]

​@@trevturp6891 bringing Barry back was fine. Not doing anything with him WITH the Flash Family and instead only focusing on the shitty dead mom retcon was the bad part.

[@trevturp6891]

@@theflashfan3234 The dead mom retcon wasn't shitty, it was amazing. And it's extremely good that that was added to his origin story.

[@trevturp6891]

@@theflashfan3234 You're right, only focusing on the amazing dead mom retcon was the bad part. But that's not the only bad part. The other bad part is that they didn't give Wally West his own superhero codename, a brand new costume with a cape and googles, and his own book separate from Barry Allen's book.

[@bobbycoltrane7552]

Just let them CO-EXIST!!!!! You a million GLs. You can have two Flashes you technically have two Kid Flashes

[@duckmurai]

17:13 I like how Benny just became Seinfeld here XD

[@kuzmavolkov]

I forgot Garth Aqualad existed so hard I thought "why is beast boy not green and why is he acting like an Atlantian?"

[@dvijkotadia6242]

When you're watching the problem with the flash family and immediately the problem with wally west shows up HELL YEAH

[@Krabnut]

Its ironic how my favorite Marvel and DC characters have both become punching bags, Peter and Wally both deserve so much better.

[@pinkruntz]

rip bro

[@ginofrancejr555]

WALLY WEST IS MY ALL TIME FAVORITE FLASH to me he is the best flash because he made the hero his own.

[@popularopinionpod]

When he said "we went from a ginger.." and paused I paused the video to add dramatic effect

[@dylanbiancamano]

I thought the Wally that dies in Titans #1 was came back from the future to warn the Titans that he was going to be shot. That's why he ren on the cosmic treadmill at the beginning of the book.

[@TevyaSmolka]

i can probably see that being the case

[@dylanbiancamano]

@@TevyaSmolka That's what it was, wasn't it? Am I the only one who saw that?

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@dylanbiancamano no your not the only one and honestly that would make a tons of sense especially because Wally west has just rescued his son from Granny goodness in his own book.

[@JoaGrayson]

​@Tevya Smolka YESSS I just read that last week, I was like wtf how's he dead, he just rescued his newborn kid Wade along with Mr. Terrific's, Donna's and Garth's kids

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@JoaGrayson indeed

[@humaidalshamsi2468]

Miss you men

[@GoldenProxyy]

The answer is nothing. My boy is perfect.

[@rickyhuynh4641]

Wished Wally west is portrayed by Grant gustin just like JWS portrayed Jay Garrick!! Fun fact: JLU Wally west is the doppelgänger of Smallville Lex Luthor!

[@uknowthatguy]

wally is just the character they have when they want to kill a flash at this point

[@talentroller4413]

should’ve killed the guy that should’ve stayed dead but nah

[@andlol2558]

They really did Wally dirty

[@kefirtompkins7338]

@3:53 I’m probably the least black person who could’ve possible commented this but “Black Wally” works just fine no black person in my family or that I’ve ever met has ever had ever said they care about the word or phrase black when talking about black people it’s encompassing and non specific not all white people are Irish but very Irish person is white type thing

[@potatomatop9326]

Barry: you figured a way out of here? Batman: no. Barry: if batman ran out of ideas then i guess we're dead... Wally: you figured a way out of here? Batman: no. Wally: *detective mode*

[@Sockycoldy]

Can’t Barry think fast or faster than light

[@StriderAcidDave]

I remember reverse flashes reason for surviving the bullet from flash point in the movie and nothing can ever beat that as a speedster feat 😂

[@revenantpop3583]

No cap the best dude ever

[@Mr.bottle_episode]

Wally west is the definition of a true hero

[@dylanhall1056]

Justice For Wally.

[@miguela7819]

I completely agree with Benny here, despite the fact that I only knew things half way, largely due to the fact that I lost track of wally after Hero's in Crisis

[@W-West5555]

Wally is basically dcs spider man they really want him to be depressed

[@randomguysays]

Lol "I'm not gonna jump super far back" Now in 1959 😂

[@ZiroWatt]

I came across the "Wally west gets fucking shot" panel on insta and it actually made me so mad. Years and years have been spent establishing the speedsters PARTICULARLY wally can feel a bullet before it even touches them and react casually without issue, and now hes just fucked because the writer was too lazy to come up with a way he could get hurt. This man has the feats to solo most of the DC universe and he gets fucking shot

[@edcaous]

In a really old issue, somebody shot Wally in a theatre, and Wally unconsciously stopped time before the bullet pierced his skin. He was like "huh? Why did the movie stop? Ow! There's a piece of metal poking at my neck!"

[@pbnjon9650]

RIP Benny

[@lorvincent]

Goku got shot with a gun in a movie while fighting Freiza. Writers sometimes.

[@smashchamp117]

This is why its hard to like power scale comic book characters stronger than like Goku.... Like yea flash beats goku on paper but GOKU would never die by a bullet. Bro was getting shot at as a child and surviving. Its mad annoying

[@vide0lover]

Wally has been mistreated in ALL platforms! The disrespect! The comics finally brought Wally back and then killed him off like 4 times, He died in the Titans comic, the Hero in Cirsis, One Minute War, and now the Newest comic. The Flash TV show barely did anything with him, The DC Animated movies didn't really have him in it at all, Wally isn't even Mentioned or reference in the Titans show, TITANS! which he is a FOUNDING MEMBER! Not even when Gar went on a weird trip around the Multiverse, they could have easily thrown in a Cameo! Young Justice, don't get me started on Young Justice. Not only did they kill him off (similar to how Comic!Barry was killed off!) the show got cancelled. then by some miracle the show gets a 2nd chance, TWICE! it got renew for TWO seasons and they didn't bring him back! They even did a whole storyline of one of the team members dying but not actually being dead and The team saved him, and it wasn't Wally!

[@umbrellacorp.]

So much Flashes it's worse than a woman going through Menopause.

[@34thoover]

What a purrrfect new co-host 😊

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

The problem with dc comic is they are stuck in a never ending cycle of reboot and relaunches, they don't what to do with the sidekicks(wally,conner,Tempest, donna Troy, tim drake) but they keep introducing new sidekicks for the same heros.

[@Fortis-Gooner]

Wally West simply needs his own moniker like Dick Grayson from Robin to Nightwing. Also, I loved the New52 suit.

[@rebelpunk13]

No, because HE IS THE FLASH. And was the flash for 25 years during Waid and John’s run

[@fergusaur_7306]

Love these kinds of videos, keep it up

[@redbrick2745]

Wally is my Flash. Barry should have stayed dead.

[@khalifagodspeed3348]

No- Wally should’ve been erased forever