The problems porting a Meteor cylinder

[@cajun3197]

We still buddies. No sweat man. The 281 is like that car that was a boat and a car. Lol. not a good race saw and it’s not a good long bar bucking saw but it is both lol. Had to make a trade off for some torques for the speed. But would never make it as a full race saw. It’s just a get together saw. Supposed to be for fun. I’m glad you like it. Hopefully the negative comments people jab here and there about it can just be ignored from now on. For the guys that told me I built a bad saw because it got beat by a 65cc saw well. Guess what I can beat a 660 with an ms250 in the right size wood. Power out and how fast it cuts in a certain size wood are 2 different things. That is all take care Boedy and call anytime you need

[@novicelumberjack]

Thanks Pat. I didn't know anyone was saying you built a bad saw, and clearly they don't have a clue. They 365 couldn't even make three cuts before it wouldn't run right. It's an absolute purpose built race saw that would fail if you just let it idle for too long. Mind blowingly fast, sure...but I'm confident that I could take yours out and actually work it all day. Two very very different setups.

[@cajun3197]

@@novicelumberjack yea there were some guys making jabs at me about it. I guess you didn’t see it. Was hoping they would get deleted but it’s all good

[@kennytheguitarfanatic054]

Chipping can happen working with Nikasil plated cylinders. To help prevent that I use a diamond file on the base of the cylinder but have to file with light pressure. I put a chamfer on it before the machining the base of the cylinder so flaking does not happen. You can pick up diamond files at harbor freight.

[@chrisjacobs2182]

Sorry to hear you're going through the drama with the 281 that thing runs killer like you said. Keep your head up. Keep doing what you're good at and don't worry about the haters. Unfortunately success will bring haters.

[@novicelumberjack]

Thanks Chris! It's a killer saw that I'm very proud of. People just really suck sometimes.

[@cajun3197]

@@novicelumberjack that exactly. People individually can be great. When you add a group together it brings out the worst in everyone unfortunately

[@chrisjacobs2182]

@@novicelumberjack totally agree

[@aaronpowell4885]

Dang, that sucks about the plating. Hopefully it never spreads🤞🏻 There's always gonna be those who love drama. Don't let them get to you. Comparing it to a 660 IS a compliment! Cajun did a heck of job!

[@novicelumberjack]

Exactly! Thing runs like a total champ. Just some folks will always find something wrong with what others say.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

I got a meteor cylinder for my farmertec 288. It wanted to flake so badly so I drew out where I wanted my port to go with my diamond ball bit and peeled the plating off the inside of the groove with pliers, then ground up to the groove. When I was done, the port was pre chamfered so that was cool.

[@novicelumberjack]

Sounds like a lot of work! But got the job done.

[@mattfleming86]

Ouch :-( There IS a time and place for hyway/meteor... when OEM is no longer in production and NOS is unobtanium. If they'd figure out their plating adhesion they'd be onto something... but they haven't.

[@novicelumberjack]

Maybe they'll figure it out eventually.

[@SCouch-cw6je]

I’ve had the same problem with the titan nickel cylinders once the flake it separates all the way around. The cheap cylinders are much easier. I like the war hawk cylinders

[@novicelumberjack]

Yeah, a cheap cylinder is okay to take a risk with, but this Meteor was not cheap. I won't buy them again unless I just have to.

[@bryanmarks4070]

I had the same problem. I had to use small single cut burrs and make sure the burr was spinning into the port so it wasn’t pulling the platting off if that makes sense. Also I used diamond burrs. It’s super slow but saves the plating.

[@novicelumberjack]

I understand completely. I tried to do exactly that. Cut into the ports, not away from them.

[@cajun3197]

Not going to see this guy porting no meteor or hyway cylinders ever. It is my understanding that they are both casted in the same factory but meteor is just plated in Italy. Both coating are too brittle in my opinion. If you want a good replacement for a stock cylinder not to port may be fine. I don’t trust them however

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Get on a machinist channel where they share tips . I'm sure they have a way around the chipping the hardness plating

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Question . I have a 281xp, needs piston, OEM cylinder in good shape. Should I just get a piston , or up grade to the big bore (from 52mm to 54mm) kit with piston & cylinder . My concern is will i lose compression . Or keep the higher compression 281xp cylinder & just get a piston . What would work better?

[@novicelumberjack]

I would definitely stick with the OEM cylinder and just get a new piston and rings.

[@Limpmode_]

Hey man would you mind possibly making a video or a short of the porting setup of that die grinder thing and kind of idea of cost thanks love your content 😁

[@larrywarner9314]

I used meteor cylinders and never had that issues but I did find cracking between the upper transfer ports

[@willcarr5763]

Try scribing a line with a diamond burr before cutting base

[@larrywarner9314]

Now I did port a meteor cylinder for my 2171 and it flaked above the intake port so I sent it too Millennium technology and they did a beautiful job and that saw is hot 😎😁😁

[@jbbolts]

What did they do? do they apply plating?

[@larrywarner9314]

@@jbbolts yes they basically replated the cylinder that's wut they do

[@Chuckrussell75]

Cool, thanks dude 👍

[@novicelumberjack]

No problem 👍

[@jritcey108]

I've had the same problem with hyway, farmertec, meteor I haven't tried a Duke yet

[@novicelumberjack]

I haven't had my hands on a Duke yet. I hear they are pretty good. I've used their pistons a couple of times, I thought they were high quality.

[@jbbolts]

Is there still issues as far as flaking goes even if the cylinder isn't ported? I just bought a meteor for a 200T 🤔

[@novicelumberjack]

I don't think so. Only when cutting on the cylinder.

[@jbbolts]

What did they say?

[@lindachaffins4504]

I'm new to this porting stuff I got a question do u have to hone a new cylinder ?

[@jameswilson322]

No

[@AndyH-13]

Can you put a small chamber with your porting tool on the bottom of the cylinder before machining the base. May prevent the tool from picking up on the plating during the cut.

[@IowaPerformanceSaws]

If you ever want a good used OEM - let me know. I have a saw parts guy that is very reasonable and will take care of you. Titanikel cylinders will do the same. If you're cutting the base anyway I'd try a Warhawk - they actually aren't terrible. Problem is they won't last as long. Total BS that $200 cylinders do this.

[@tylerheard1279]

I'd put a bit of jb weld on that flaked spot and then sand it out. I've done that before in the same area you have the issue but it was a mistake I made not the cylinders fault.

[@cajun3197]

This guy is very clever😉👆🏽

[@novicelumberjack]

Not a bad idea. It sanded out really well though, and it's already back together now.

[@crazyfeller5704]

👍👍

[@sethlozeau2962]

I dig your videos. I agree with your off topic turn at the end. You keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t worry about what some shithead thinks about a positive comment that you made about your own saw. Too many sensitive cry babies these days. I have to say that I especially love your Poulan content. I like the old green machines myself. Everyone seems to hate them. I don’t care. I like them because they’re fun to mess around with, parts are readily available and cheap, and the saws are cheap as hell!

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

👍🆙BigGuy

[@novicelumberjack]

What's up Doc?!

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

@@novicelumberjack 😁

[@crusiethmaximuss]

Hahahaha, that's the funniest high school story I have ever heard!!! xD

[@jackylsmith8138]

The Tinman uses Meteor and he loves them. He just had his first one flake. Seems like your flaking was due to milling the bottom of the cylinder an not your porting.

[@novicelumberjack]

Definitely from cutting the base.

[@lukereynolds9907]

On a 461 boady you would have been better getting oem in my opinion

[@larrywarner9314]

You probably should have bought oem cylinder from stihl there like $180 to $200 where I live in Pennsylvania

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Comment from The Coolest Guy on the Planet.

[@DaveyBlue32]

Is that a Hyway cylinder in the Meteor box? I’ve seen some of that happening as Hyway has flooded the market I don’t think meteor can complete with them anymore… I’m sure hoping that they don’t go out of business as I’m hating on the titanikel and Hyway with that flaking crap… I use the diamond burrs… that’s a Hyway in the meteor box.., you can tell by their color… I hate those freaking flaking Hyway cylinder’s… that’s not a meteor it’s a Hyway in the meteor box….

[@jameswilson322]

It is cast with the name on the cylinder . It is a meteor

[@larrywarner9314]

That'll continue to flake off

[@novicelumberjack]

Geeze, I hope not.

[@larrywarner9314]

@@novicelumberjack I had the samething happened to me when porting those stihl cylinders after decking them , I did the same thing your doing and I got a couple months out of it and wrecked the saw ,

[@larrywarner9314]

But I never cut the base so I don't have that problem, I do my work to the piston

[@EcSsAwS]

That’s why I won’t mess with those fancy coated cylinders. I’ve chipped 2 so far

[@novicelumberjack]

Lessons we gotta learn I guess.

[@troy3052]

First

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

Not today, a wise man once said If you ain't first you're last👍🆙T

[@novicelumberjack]

Oooh, it was rigged! Maybe next time Troy!

[@charlesjenks2710]

I'm late

[@novicelumberjack]

Better late than never!

[@charlesjenks2710]

@@novicelumberjack Big guy I'll never miss your if I can help it !

[@lumbearjack1439]

Yup meteor I'd poop for porting. Hyway is better hilariously. Still not great tho

[@novicelumberjack]

I'm gonna try to steer clear of both from now on. Too risky to port.

[@lumbearjack1439]

@@novicelumberjack yea my favorite to part is farmertec. No issues so far