The Problems with Newer Battle Passes

In today’s video I go over more reasons as to why the older battle passes were better in Fortnite Battle Royale as well as ways to fix the current ones.
#fortnite

[@Swiftanium]

Remember when secret skins were actually secret?

[@damann7778]

that's the point they aren't secret skins anymore, epic isn't holding u at gun point and forcing u to call it secret

[@user-iz5ms6uf6f]

Fr, secret skins were so much better like the predator or cube queen ​@@damann7778

[@WhiteHeavenRuckus99]

@@damann7778 bro misses the entire point of these comments, and the video. But enjoy your reused slop bro

[@dantymedic2057]

It was so intresting to unlock a secret skin to do challenges in order to get it because you never knew what it is gona be.

[@Alright281]

Didn't leakers just tell the community what they were anyway and ruin the suprise

[@emanuelvela6097]

Another problem is that the main battle pass is filled with junk and as a result VBucks are pushed aside to the bonus rewards. You can’t even finish the main battle pass with the full amount of vbucks

[@CFS15]

Oh and dont forget about last season where the original edit style pickaxe, glider, etc for a skin would be pushed to the bonus rewards

[@theh0pester929]

To be fair it's really easy to level up, I'm already at 157 and I've been playing casually

[@vandercomics]

@@theh0pester929 I'm at 57 and it takes way too long imo

[@QuebecLibree]

​​@@theh0pester929 I don't think you "just play casually", if ur that high, you must play every single day cause i play 2-3 time a week + i do the season challenge and i'm only 86 or something like that.

[@theh0pester929]

@@QuebecLibree I play like 5 times a week and I just play creative to get like 8 levels

[@cameroni08]

Fun Fact! Fortnite did an “Emote Royale” in 2022 and the one that won was a guy confused about a map 😭 it wasn’t even a dance

[@evil116falcon]

AN EMOTE IS NOT JUST DANCING

[@u6o_19]

​@@evil116falconBut dance are a lot more interesting and fun to use

[@u6o_19]

Is better to have a medíocre dance than a guys looking for a random ahh map

[@John6-40]

Spot on. Epic used to lean on the BP to "sell" Fortnite. They don't need to do that anymore. So the BP gets all the ugly and bland concepts. The art style is more "realistic" and generic. So the skins are more forgettable. The only thing selling the BP these days is collabs. Emotes are almost ALL collabs now, and they want to sell those in the item shop. So the BP is left with "filler" emotes that instantly get archived. They also waste like 10 spots on edit styles, when those used to just be included.

[@ErossYT]

Banana skin would never been released if they used the same rute they use nowdays, thats sad

[@honestmistake8167]

There has never been a battle pass skin as cool as drift to this day.

[@John6-40]

Agreed. Almost all of my favorite BP skins are from Ch1. Drift, Omega, Black Knight, Sparkle Specialist, Peely, Blackheart, Lynx, Sgt Winter, etc.

[@StickySoldier]

Rust lord and x lordfor me too

[@Loadingz...]

Yeah there has

[@LUXI0N]

midas meowskulls chapter 2 brutes isnt there but close

[@alexanderengland473]

What about Calamity and Catalynx

[@cyberdragon3887]

Another problem with the edit styles are when a back bling or another cosmetic with edit styles is unlocked but with its alternate style forcing you to grind out the bonus page for the main style of the cosmetic. It’s so stupid

[@gamerkitten5858]

Also when you get super styles you don't get them on any other cosmetics, onto the skin, so you have to try and combo different stuff with it that doesn't work just to match colors

[@cyberdragon3887]

@@gamerkitten5858 yeah I hate that as well

[@pinksywedarnoc8017]

EXACTLY!!! WHY ARE THE STYLES SO FAR APART!?

[@BearWith_You]

I dont have the default color of Rian's glider cause of this, as I stopped playing in C4S3

[@Bootleg1089]

I miss the older passes now the current battle passes look the same, and id honestly respect epic if they went the halo infinite route where you can buy and grind the old passes

[@Kylemilewhile]

Thats cool and smart

[@Thebigman2.0]

Truth to be told, a lot of people in the fn community requested that same with me too but sadly epic isn't taking that route at all.😢

[@Bootleg1089]

@@Thebigman2.0 yeah, I've been a major advocate for it but we all know epic wouldn't do it, they want to lock skins behind time gated battlepasses that force your hand and release trashy item shops that nobody asks for and now they have to cater everything for the new modes

[@Thebigman2.0]

@@Bootleg1089 facts basically best to accept it 😭

[@Bootleg1089]

@@Thebigman2.0 yeah, i just hope one day either epic listens or the community makes them, its just ridiculous that i cant get doom slayer because i wasn't playing then, or all the stuff i missed in chapter 1 passes because i was a dumb kid who didn't like to grind on the game

[@pigylord]

Yearly chapters have kind of made me sad as weekly map changes are a thing of a pass with small story lines like teddy bears vs gnomes and coral buddies now its just big updates and no build up to the new season until the end same with secret skins when you saw the wolverines claw marks then footprints ect

[@legendaxicad._]

EPIC GAMES, HIRE THIS MAN FOR CONSULTATION.

[@Nae_ex]

Nah they need COD psychologists

[@lvBLAI]

They know what theyre doing lol

[@DanielKitsune47]

I feel like no one gets why they don't do original emotes anymore They actually want to credit the artist behind it and add the original song that came with it too Thus making it icon series Most, if not at least 90% of the emotes in chapter 1 were just plain stolen

[@stewie3599]

yeah exactly and if they brought out all those old type of emotes without the icon series rarity thing it would be so controversial

[@Tiredartist9552]

Were all the old emotes really existent before fortnite made them??

[@DanielKitsune47]

@@Tiredartist9552 yeah, all the big ones too like floss or best mates

[@Kayleesilly]

I really miss the battle passes before battle stars

[@darkcdev4906]

Fr now I don’t even feel the hype of finally getting a tier 100 skin anymore I am just grinding for the v bucks hoping the next season will be better

[@spacemanthesplicer]

I miss the old battlepasses where you unlock one item but you can get two things from the bottom and top part of the pass layout

[@Darkblaze5597]

I miss the old emotes turned into lobby tracks the newer ones are meh they cooked so much with those from chapter 1 and 2

[@89carti]

One thing you didn't really mention that I wish they still did is giving the battle pass skins challenges that you unlock when getting the skin. They did this in basically every battle pass back in chapter 1, and almost all of these skins challenges were completable after the season ended. These challenges rewarded you with the styles for the skins (so they don't clog up the main pass) and they also gave you extra rewards like backblings, pickaxes, emotes, etc that also weren't in the main battle pass. Also a lot of the styles you got with these challenges were the actual progressive ones that upgraded the skin. Especially in seasons like 9 and X, every single skin in the battle pass had challenges you could do to unlock extra rewards. These challenges gave you more of a reason to keep playing and unlock all the cool rewards to match your skin, and also sort of bond with the skin as you are personally working on the challenges for that skin. Nowadays it's more so just "oh cool I got this skin" and that's it. Back then you got the skin but now had extra challenges unlocked with it to do and earn even more awesome styles and rewards to match the skin

[@norton_antivirus]

I don't even know what the story of fortnite is anymore, it makes no sense why we are where we are

[@Tiredartist9552]

Like the last thing I remember of the story line was the collision event with the new and improved mecha team leader

[@gamerglimpse_]

I think another big thing that made battle passes so special was the addition of a new kind of cosmetic (sprays, toys, back blings, etc). These were also only available through the battle pass at the launch of the season. Epic needs to stop taking the safe route and start being a little more innovative in terms of the battle pass

[@TheOriginalDennis]

Remember when battle pass characters actually had meanings? 2020: “Midas” “Brutas” “Skye” “Jules” “Meowscles” 2024: I don’t even know their names…

[@genrulasimmuneer]

soooo real i cant even name 1 battle pass skin now, back then the skins were iconic, it was "fortnite battle royale" only no rocket league game mode, no lego, no multiverse stuff and the best of all we used to have LTMS back then which made the game fresh every week

[@youwontwin5354]

Yep and it's all bc of the new players who were crying about not being compensated for something they didn't experience. the point of a Bp is to highlight the theme of a season. It's exclusive for a reason if they ever brought them back. no one would care about those cosmetics anymore. fornite really has gone to sh!t

[@genrulasimmuneer]

@@youwontwin5354 fr, not only that the skins had a meaning, either it would be an easter egg in their name or on the skin itself! epic really should think about this i really miss donald mustard, plz come back without u the game isnt fortnite anymore.

[@jslgamingg]

@@youwontwin5354yeah i js think they shouldn’t do collab skins in the bp tho

[@IronPikachu724]

I think the only ones that had relevancy this year with the storyline were mostly Jones (with his Vengance Jones skin) and Hope. I geuss you can also count Cerberus as well due to S2's story quests really making you know he exists (sadly by killing him all the time except for all but one parts of his own story questline), he is also the only one still here from last season. Other than those I mentioned, it doesn't seem that we have any known figures that can somewhat influence the storyline ither than Peely and the unknown character "The Wanderer". You could probably tell I play this game for fun if I'm trying to keep up with the story. I wish we had stories like the ones in C2 (C1 had a good story too, but not as solidified as it was in C2, and C4 seemed to be where the storyline quests felt a little empty and like filler, with C4 S2 being the best "storyline" we likely got that chapter)

[@jasiah1055]

I really agree with you on the progressive styles but not only that I just wish they made a bunch of styles for skins in general, trying to like ROX from chapter 1, season nine I just miss when they put more effort in the battle pass. Now every single one is either a rescan or a collaboration. The collaboration part is very annoying to me because it gets rid of the creativity. Imagine we had the wanderer as the secret skin instead of magnet to be honest, they’re not even called secrets skins anymore in another example, I have is chapter 2 season one. I miss when there was quest to unlock a certain style for a certain skin. I know we have bonus rewards, but I’m talking about like actual cool styles not these random golden and black ones. Because if you’re gonna be honest, all the question rewards do is change the colour of the skin, not that much I wish when they put effort into the styles of the battle pass, and like you said the emotes

[@radioactiveshok5664]

We can complain all we want about the new battle passes, but we still buy them anyway😭

[@nutty_rickrolled_mikey]

They seriously need to bring back pets as well

[@mrclapz1488]

Pets and toys

[@nutty_rickrolled_mikey]

@@mrclapz1488 y e s

[@funkyman9283]

pets more so tbh

[@_Domthebomb]

Some parts with the audio sounds like you didn’t want to wake your parents up

[@Fitzpatrick5380]

I think, after a few years, battle pass characters should be available for purchase or, old battle passes could come back as a series of quests. However, it would make this trade of the unique be less urgent

[@jdoggbro]

I hate how they slowly got rid of good emotes and now we just get crappy green emotes

[@evil116falcon]

I need to be honest for one second here. I have been playing fortnite before season 4. I have seen the evolutions and reverts of battlepasses from season 5 chapter 1 to current. Its clear they have had a very big dip in overall feel, in reguards to playing for hours and hours and still feeling like you can do more weekly challenges and do more daily challenges. Nowadays you just get the secret skin for nothing and you only get a singular loading screen for finishing all weekly quests. AND THATS ONLY SOMETIMES, we used to be able to flex secret skins like singularity and ruin. But now legit nothing cant be obtained by playing for one hour a day. Anybody can say that even if they grind to level 200 and finish the battlepass, theres still a hole there. You cant really flex any secret skin or battlepass skin because it just gets handed to you nowadays. But back then with the fortbytes you fealt accomplished. But nowadays i feel bored, like i will just have to wait for the next season to to it all over again.

[@rileyminute6978]

They actually did have progressive styles in chapter 2 season 3 with the knight skin

[@Idoit157]

The knight skin is actually a really good progressive skin tbh

[@jadethenightwing5840]

As someone who has been playing since chapter 1 season 6 I can say I agree with all of this. The battle pass feels more like Epic tossing in whatever they want. Most of it feels filler. The sprays. The emoticons. I don’t want that. I want pickaxe’s, gliders, emotes, skins! Heck another argument about newer passes is not enough styles. Most skins get one maybe 2 edit styles and 90% of the time one of those edits styles will be for the skin alone and not the rest of the set. Same with the super styles. Just the skin, not the pickaxe, back bling or Glider! I feel like Epic needs to go back to those original battlepasses. Quit it with the whole (you choose what you unlock thing) cause that’s dumb. Heck there is no point to it cause you need to be a certain level to unlock 5 rewards. It isn’t like the old days where you can unlock a handful of the rewards and get the next page. along with progressive skins. I miss these a lot. Getting a skin that changes through the season. With new styles, colors, and a completely deferent look at the end was amazing! Yet that is also gone. I am really. Really. Hoping that next season Epic changes the pass for the better instead of what they have been doing since last year.

[@itzWoj]

If only epic listened

[@mirobgx1440]

fortnite needs a new ceo asap

[@Tmmylovesfort]

@@mirobgx1440I volunteer

[@MrClown1141]

Lol epic "not listening" is nothing compared to COD XD

[@GHOULY782]

I think a big issue about modern BP are that they arent... good anymore. I rarely buy a battlepass thinking 'damn I want this skin'. I usualy just buy battlepasses nowadays because I get more vbucks out of it and a few items to stack my locker which i'll never use...

[@BearWith_You]

I typically want at least 1 skin and so that and the vbucks make it worth it. The skin alone is worth it cause most skins are at least 1200

[@ChasonXD]

I dont think they should unvault old battle passes but they should make more like that. If you did buy any battle pass you should be able to finish it any season.

[@readyflyguy3463]

Fr that would make fortnite rich

[@readyflyguy3463]

Their would be a high rate of players

[@Spiffyo]

Counterpoint, why have skins from the battlepasses/crew(yes it is added because it has never rereleased a single fucking skin since its debut) not have a alternative to buy? Wheres an alternative Superman, a normalish meowscles family member, or Wolverine? Im sorry, but thats a big gripe I have, what if I wanna play as Rippley or Rick Sanchez? Shit outta luck because of things out of my control?

[@gamerkitten5858]

​@@Spiffyo Fr. I'm not a big fan of Superman, but I bought the battle pass back then, and unlocked his glider, but not him, so now I have a useless glider in my locker because I had no control over unlocking him in time.

[@eobardthawne82]

​@@gamerkitten5858what do you mean you had no control over unlocking him?

[@idontevenknow4614]

still just praying to god they bring back the old bp collab skins, the gatekeepers can keep the og ones but it blows my mind epic has resisted that option this whole time when ALOT of little timmys would go to their mommys to get the new superheros, they have some of the most ICONIC SUPERHEROES IN MEDIA locked away forever

[@snippy69420]

Chapter 1 battle passes had more rewardeds tham every other chapter

[@chronorust3359]

Just making a 🤓🤓 comment here...but the game that really revolutionized dancing emotes in gaming was actually the Uncharted multiplayer series. First game I ever played that let us do that. Then it just became a normal expectation all around. I know there's maybe other games that also popularized it before, but just wanted an excuse to mention Uncharted lol

[@jaivinti7493]

Chapter 2 season 3 did have progressive styles but it was only for the teir 100 and not the whole Battlepass So it wasn’t entirely forgotten until chapter 2 season 4 or 5

[@netherwarrior6113]

Mando had it, but I would say primal definitely started it

[@Nae_ex]

​@@netherwarrior6113 Mando did not have a progressive style, by level 100 you unlocked the last piece of his beskar armor.

[@amphareixon]

Im gonna be fair but creative XP just ruined the possibility of progressive styles to even comeback, back then you got 25k exp after each x mins you spent on creative, capping at 125k per day, nowadays you get 400k just by doing nothing and get rewarded with it I even do remember when someone got to level 1000 on chapter 2 season 8, a lot of news were going up with Oooooh they got level 1k, while nowadays level 1k is just bland bc up to 500 people get it per season, which makes it way less unique

[@axzata6109]

Love the little jingle at the start of the vid lol. But it really is sad how bad battle passes are these days especially with how many collabs there are (although in my opinion there are just too many collabs in general even outside the battle pass). Just got to wait a million years for any change to take place :(

[@damann7778]

yea the battle pass is way better now

[@Raddish-IS-Radd]

Yeah two colab skins in a battle pass is way to much. nobody is buying the battle pass to wear magnito so idk get why epic even does that it's like they're scared that their original skins aren't enough or something.

[@John6-40]

​@Raddish-IS-Radd I think they just use collabs to get people to buy the pass, and fill the rest of the pass with their crap cosmetics they know won't sell in the item shop.

[@damann7778]

@@John6-40 the cosmetics have been fire, chapter 1 cosmetics weren't amazing either

[@user-ok2jb4bt8j]

I feel you don't remember the chapter 4 passes, because they were actually jam packed with good emotes, especially ch4 s2

[@itstrulymystic]

Yeah you’re right. They were cooking a bit especially with the beatzbunny emote, then I’m a mystery, they just have to keep it up!

[@coolguy14604]

@@itstrulymysticthe skateboard one still is my favorite

[@CrazzySaiyan]

@@itstrulymysticim a mystery was chapter 5 season 1. I dont blame you for forgetting though

[@Tmmylovesfort]

@@coolguy14604you mean the balance board?

[@gamerkitten5858]

​@@coolguy14604are you talking about the crooked grind emote. Also what season was that in, idk if I have it

[@TeddyHenley]

Thank you for talking about collabs. I hate collabs in general. It's just Fortnite being lazy and unoriginal. It would be ok every once in a while, but every season there is a collab, and several collabs in the item shop

[@lol-lm9np]

New battle-passes are all carbon copies of each other, unimaginative soulless cash grabs, epic has hit a point where they are for the most part decently profiting off of them due to locking collab skins behind that pay wall, causing a sense of FOMO that you may not be able to own a skin of your favorite TV show or video game character, therefore allowing them to crank out battle-passes with the the same formula, layout, and barren bleak cosmetics, with the collab scandal now dominating the main highlights of each battle-pass, it completely overshadows every other cosmetic presented causing a lack of interest in epic making their original skins more unique, killing all chances of their being a new iconic skin like their was in earlier seasons like, the reaper, omega and drift. But the layout is not the only problem, another problem is that epic has gotten lazy with progressive styles and unlock-able styles as mystic mentions, epic has realized that the younger audience of this game feel more satisfaction when they can earn things quickly and efficiently therefore keeping them hooked therefore making progressive styles and unlock-able styles obsolete as it took effort and hours of grinding to actually see your work pay-off, with the new way of earning styles its a matter of just gaining a few more levels which quite frankly is not hard or rewarding anymore to unlock a variety of variants of a skin which is 95% of the time just a recolor of the skin itself.

[@skinnyj123]

If pets worked like grogu or rocket raccoon people would most likely love them as those are just little friends who follow you around

[@imprettysureimness5864]

So happy you did a part 2 of this, definitely was looking forward for it keep up the amazing work as always mate I really enjoy your content. It’s a shame how downgraded the bps are now I hope they’ll eventually have more dances, bring back pets and toys and not have edit styles take over tiers

[@Oscarking6981]

I regret not playing in older seasons this game was so cool back then and I still like it but eh

[@Chapy1189]

Game sucks now back then was definitely better

[@IIISofiaIII]

I started to play Fortnite in Jan 2020 on mobile, it was first season for Chapter 2. And you know what? I was so confused with building after PUBG and immediately dropped the game. After that I kinda tried to get back, but I had no android device or gaming pc😅 Long story short, I hate I missed so much, came back only in March 2023

[@spelunkymaster]

I'm pretty sure over 3/4 of every battle pass ever has at least one collab in it

[@CERISTHEDEV]

Ok Magneto, fallout's power armor korra, solid snake, petter griffin, kabe lame, optmus prime, eren yeager, gerralt the rivera, doom guy, spider gwen, darth vader, indiana jones, dr strange, spider man, These are the ones i remember and there is more that i dont remember because i did not played chapter 1 and 2

[@spelunkymaster]

@@CERISTHEDEV There were no collab skins in the battle pass in chapter 1. Chapter 2 I’ll go from season 2 since season 1 didn’t have one. Season 2 was Deadpool. 3 was Aquaman. 4 was literally an entire Marvel season. 5 was Predator. 6 was Neymar Jr. 7 was Rick Sanchez. 8 was Carnage.

[@auctober]

rn i’m at 2 minutes and that dance is like they are trying to fit into a group of 13 year olds instead of goofy dances it’s almost like they want to try hard on dances idk how to exactly put it but it’s awful😭

[@TR4PZ_Vr_]

About the collab skins being locked away, i started fortnite ch 3 s 1 bc i liked spiderman at the time ,BUT i was horrible at the game and I didn’t know seasons were timed i thought if you finished the battle pass you get a new one so I didn’t get even half way and didn’t get spiderman same thing with dr strange but for season 3 and all ofthe other. Seasons after that i got it i have no way home spiderman but it doesn’t feel the same as the original red and blue hopefully fortnite changes this

[@kibn]

It would be cool if we boycott epic until we get everything we want like ACTUALLY GOOD battle passes where the secret skins are actually secret and there not collab skins and if we do this since epic is so used to getting money once they start losing money they’ll give us what they want

[@Brownyan]

I wish we got more customizable skins in the battlepass. Spectra knight was cool, and im hoping the Chapter 2 OG bp gives us a maya remix

[@justicem2853]

It makes me so incredibly sad how many icon emotes run the game now, I miss the creativity that Fortnite had when it came to making emotes. Yea some of the dances were inspired, but the music was always original, and had its own charm

[@Psychoshell]

Fortnite really should bring back old battle passes because it’s unnecessary to gate keep characters that are not real and it would be great for new gen players like me

[@Chapy1189]

Won't ever happen no point to buy battle passes if you can just buy it later snooze ya lose womp womp

[@dantymedic2057]

Yeah you wish to have old battlepass skins but i tell you it will never happen. The only thing that would be good to happen is they bringing back the old battlepass system, like battlestars separated from the level, progresive skins, secret skins where you had to do challenges to unlock them, and the other challenges section like there were of course daily challenges and weekly challenges but there also were as you progressed the battlepass like challenges for every charater in the pass so you can get the complete set for them like gliders or pickaxes or even backblings.

[@Alright281]

​@@Chapy1189 I smell youth from this comment

[@DeputyMartin]

No they shouldn’t lol on you for starting later on there’s been times where I missed out on a couple passes or some not finished all the way threw and that’s completely my fault and on me and I’m ok with it knowing how they do they’re system and it’s fair

[@bills1967]

@@Alright281he is right. There would be no point in battle passes otherwise. Battle passes replaced loot boxes in the game industry. Loot boxes is basically gambling while the battle pass system incentives players to play the game now. That is what a business is for.

[@Lunaris-26_brixtoonz]

festival stuff should get like a pickaxe with every instrument that ofc, shows what that instrument is

[@shadow_ruisu]

Chapter 2 Season 3 actually has a progressive outfit, Eternal Knight, the more leveled up you were, the more dark and bright the aura you will be

[@Ri0t69]

Actually so true, battle passes now are just lazy cash grabs

[@JeffSin-lw9ui]

Theres no more GG sprays or emotions anymore

[@GentlemanSkelli]

yes there is magneto is gonna have one in the battlepass 💀

[@_abarofsoap_]

there's TOO many GG emoticons/sprays wym

[@SweeperTheGoat]

what also needs to happen very soon is them locking the original style of an item in the battle pass and putting it in the bonus rewards so i have to 100% the battle pass just to get the 1st style of a glider

[@jamescash0398]

Also the skins in the nowadays battlepass feels…bland like way too bland with the remove of rarities including the pickaxe in-game.

[@KeeperProtector]

Classic battle passes we're honestly fine on their own. It's one of those "why fix something that isn't even broken" things. They had way more cooler rewards & more free rewards compared to nowadays. I don't understand how this game has so much content & it still feels either lackluster, underwhelming, & kinda forgettable.😶 Nowadays, players can just easily buy all 100 levels & just only have to work on bonus quest rewards & extra styles, but other than that, there's really nothing to do.🤔 Fortnite has truly evolved past its original identity , and it's starting to feel like any other generic game. When fortnite was "itself," it felt unique & special back then. It's really starting to give me Roblox vibes, & the whole metaverse thing doesn't interest me honestly. They're spreading themselves way too thin with all these other modes that I fear battle royale will get lesser content in the future. Who knows nowadays.😕

[@tonyxultra2279]

I think since after changes to changes and ups & downs for BR over time. Epic games can only do so much for br. Some seasons can be great & fun, and other seasons can be downright the worst. So Epic games try to do this metaverse stuff and add different variety content for long Jeopardy for game's future. And so far, right now, it is not doing so hot. I'm not against the metaverse thing, but Epic games need to execute it right if they want fortnite to drive for a very long time.

[@damann7778]

keep crying, I'll take way more rewards and more vbucks over OGs basic 100 lvls any day

[@WhiteHeavenRuckus99]

@@damann7778 that’s just you and a minority. 😭 70/80% of the community agree’s with these criticisms.

[@WhiteHeavenRuckus99]

@@damann7778 I bet you like those new item shops too😭 Average Certified Fortnite player

[@KeeperProtector]

@@damann7778 You must be a part of the newer generation of fortnite rather than the classic OG generation to truly consider the battle pass is better nowadays when it's pretty far from the truth. Also, if you can't handle comments then I suggest you go play fortnite instead of responding "keep crying" childish remarks. Nothing productive comes from it, so don't do that.

[@WestOzMT]

Great insight on this topic i play Fortnite with my son and all your points are really valid.

[@icyavali8818]

Things I miss in battle passes 1: toys 2: pets 3: progressing skins

[@brunoob1557]

The thing that i will forever miss with old fortnite are the vibes that it had and the amount of effort that the developers put into a 2017/2018 small battle royale king of a game And i miss how chapter 1 linked almost every season so flawlessly and how they alterred the maps each season to somehow make sense with the themes It was a totally different game then whatever tf we have now And i love the old graphics i dont understand why they want to use the fugging laggy ass graphics that we have now Sure it can look good but only if you have invested the most for your gaming setup and the game doesnt even look good for alot of the players anymore unlike in chapter 1 where on every device it looked basically the same

[@marquishiller2041]

The Jingle at the start of the video cooked bro, I subscribed in the first 14 seconds of a video

[@phantomloard0138]

I will always be forever mad that I didnt get omega I was one teir away before the season ended.

[@Halracc_31324]

I want another build-a-brella, it was so good in ch2s3 and In 2024 I will be able to give it a better design than last time

[@slidersides]

I miss when we had to go on a whole entire hunt for battle stars in Fortnite, we don’t get fun stuff like that angmore

[@TheSheepDoom]

They stopped being unique, you know they're unique, but they don't feel like it

[@therisingsky_Aj]

I really enjoy your commentary videos! New to the channel. But I do agree on your thoughts on the newer battle passes. I really enjoyed The Battle Pass System from chapter 1 and 2. Especially the progression styles and when they introduced the level progression in chapter 2. I honestly don’t mind a collab skin in the battle pass. If it’s a character who’s cool. But I don’t really like it when they are randomly thrown in as a tier 100 skin or a “secret” skin. I do indeed miss the old battle passes when the secret skin was actually a “secret” skin! And honestly I just prefer when Fortnite makes an original tier 100 skin. And I really like the concept of the ranked skins. Or ranked cups. Because those really bring out the fun to the game. In my opinion anyways. But maybe if we get lucky, we can get a ranking reward in the pass like a pickaxe next season.

[@YMC-ARGUS]

As a season 3 player i really do wish that epic do bring back the old style the new format doesnt work well and its fsr too easy to level up as you mentioned in p1 but they also should add more emotes like you said at the start

[@nergigante1_1]

I'm actually quite okay with the newer battle passes however I am quite frustrated that Optimus Prime won't come back in a long time

[@YMC-ARGUS]

@nergigante1_1 yea I mean that I'd something else because I lost my old account with the og stuff on and I am quite upset that I won't be able to get fable or like og lynx again

[@nergigante1_1]

@@YMC-ARGUS oh that's rough how's your new account?

[@YMC-ARGUS]

@nergigante1_1 it's alright wouldn't say its new has it since c2 s8 but like I lost all my c1 shit

[@Emissary_Editz]

Tf happened to toys and pets man?! I miss the toys bruh

[@thesavagegummybear7341]

you've got some good points. it's just a shame they'll probably never see this or even if they do, wont listen.

[@Rce12808]

13:47 we should have gotten a mad max skin or something like that

[@TomDaGoat9]

IMO they should only bring back collab bp skins some of the most iconic fictional characters are in it Superman , spiderman , iron man , Deadpool , Wolverine , and Peter griffin

[@ItzDudekillerYo]

Man old battle passes were great. The grind to get cool skins, emotes, and other cool stuff. Now its just ok. Only good battle pass was during og season

[@Djjr1228]

My issue with secret skins is if it is a collaboration make it make sense. Last season young kratos would have been perfect

[@Mimikyu_2009]

I do just want to say one thing, they did not abandon progressive styles. In chpt 2 sea 3, the eternal knight skin from that season did have the progression. But, they did get rid of it from the on.

[@sianahhh]

has anyone else noticed that not all of the vbucks in newer battlepasses are in the actual battlepass but instead the bonus rewards??? most likely epic wants to keep players playing the season to get all their rewards but its still strange... 😬

[@lastchristian5650]

People always have problems, the fact is Fortnite battlepass is far better than any other battlepass other games offer. I'd take Fortnite battlepass over other current battlepasses from other games.

[@carisma193]

I agree with all of this, especially 16:09

[@tomatosoldier5]

I just started using my main skins that i bought from the item shop because these battlepasses they make are well... some are good skins, but some are just not interested

[@johnwickfromfortnite9506]

What bothers me the most for recent battle passes is adding an extra 100 levels. You might think "wow more stuff" no, its just a cheap way to spread the vbucks on the pass to higher tiers making it harder to get the free 1000 vbucks you get every pass so people have a harder time saving those vbucks to buy the next pass for free. And most rewards for going over level 100 is just styles for the current battlepass skins as if they already didn't get enough recolors already

[@LucasR223]

I wish they brought back battle pass skins like in ch 1 season 4, 5 and 6 when the tier 1 and 100 skin had styles you needed to unlock. Imo drift and ragnorok are sill one of the best skins

[@ajahlons4]

Btw 8-ball vs. scratch, corrupted style is broken in creative it shows the base scratch instead of the corrupted version.

[@gubbel_tv]

5:16 progressive styles were introduced in chapter 1 season 4 with carbide and omega. Here are all battle pass skins that had (a) progressive style(s): - carbide & omega (s4) - drift & ragnarok (s5) - calamity & dire (s6) - lynx, zenith & the iceking (s7) - blackheart, hybrid & luxe (s8) - rox & vendetta (s9) - 8-ball vs scratch (ch2s1) - agent peely, brutus, tntina, meowscles, skye & midas (ch2s2) - eternal knight (ch2s3) However, only the progressive skins of s4, ch2s1, ch2s2 and ch2s3 were locked to their season. The progressive skins of s5, s6, s7, s8 & s9 can still be finished progressing today so their progression wasn’t locked to their season in which they got introduced

[@elfamoso_juan]

I miss the old battle pass system

[@manta312]

There was a large time were I played then stopped and now getting back into it again I missed out on a lot of cool skins and other stuff bring old battle passes back isn’t a new concept people have wanted this for a while. It’s funny seeing them overcharge for literally an edit style for a skin (Look at Ariana Grandes skins) when they could just allow people to buy old battle passes or the cosmetics from it. It’s just weird seeing them do very greedy stuff then not do the thing that will make them the most money and it’s consumer friendly.

[@slidersides]

8:17 back in the day when collab happened they were cool asl and were rare and special now it’s like almost everyday we get a collab and now it doesn’t really feel that special

[@mopiey1k]

correction Chaprer 2 season 3 also had a progressive skin being Eternal Knight who got finished by level 160. Marvel season was the first to abandon it for super styles. GREAT VIDEO BTW

[@SteelSpiderStudios]

They have to stop adding licensed characters into battle passes unless it’s a season about hem like the marvel season

[@aydenbeverage8250]

Epic should take notes

[@Dillyj8]

I think why progression style were remove because how secret they are because I did not know there was a progression style in chapter 2 season 1.

[@nergigante1_1]

I'm just hoping that one day I'll be able to get Optimus Prime

[@pheonix8167]

As season 2 shame redid old battle skin like real versus old Walmart skin 😂

[@444zzz]

Secret skins where so insane now they are cash grabs, and omfg the pets bruh

[@liltushay9488]

One thing i miss is the challenges. Where you had to use specific battle pass characters and use other thing you got from the battlepass. I thought they were fun imo

[@Therapist_Demoman]

Challenges back then: Follow this very specific path to unlock this progression/chacter Today: *destroy 50 objects in one location*

[@bosongsean7242]

At least they are trying now with the magneto, better than nothing

[@ahaha272]

Uniornically my least favourite thing about new battlepass is the change from event soundtracks, season themes like spies and extended emote music to awful raps from the characters 💀 Idc about anything else they've done tbh

[@hondaaccord1399]

Ain't no way you said exp bonuses were a perk and then said modern edit styles were bad 💀 I understand that there's a ton of soul missing from modern passes, but goodness gracious, you did NOT just put those head to head 😂

[@theboredbrickbuilder4130]

Now this isn't really related to the battle pass but one thing I don't like is the fact that they combined the Gameplay trailer and the cinematic trailer. I always loved watching the cinematic trailer and seeing all the cool stuff in it but now that they have combined both of them it just feels boring

[@MichealAfton1983]

13:42 but old secret skins were either barley in the story, and just weren’t at all The visitor and Scientest- these are exceptions for obvious reasons Enforcer- did absolutely nothing other then be in 1 story loading screen Aim-scanned the island, did nothing after Ruin- did absolutely nothing Singularity- she probably did the most out of all of these (besides visitor and scientist), but it’s implied she only played a part in building the mech, never actually controlled it (we know for sure that was paradigm) Sorana- did absolutely nothing

[@knightluke44]

i had an idea on how they could bring back older battle passes If you bought an older battle pass you couldnt get the Vbucks out of it Super styles(not the omega lights or upgrades to a skin) would be locked out and the people who had it og would get some additional style like with skull trooper and Ghoul Trooper That way the people who originally had it would still be "og" while at the same time letting people use the older cosmetics as a new player

[@444zzz]

Also secret skins where cash grabs, as well as fortnite had its own identity and that's what people paid for

[@EmptyYEET]

They should start making actual cool skins again. Like Drift, simple and awesome like the Dark Voyager from even the 1st season (i think), make skins have secret styles again, and it will be good

[@DrZombrain]

Chapter 2 season 3 did have a progressive style tho no? The tier 100 you can use it for the backbling and skin and use the fancy fire style thing with each color