The ProJect A1 Turntable Review!

[@ipso_jure]

I've bought A1 and I can say -- it is awesome! It took 2 min to unpack it, put on the stand and connect wires. Boom! Done! After 2 min LP was already spinning :) And it sounds fantastic also.

[@thevinylattack]

I'm glad you hear you're enjoying it.

[@marks-the-spot]

In the 1970's I owned an AR-XA turntable which is as manual as you can get. No tonearm lever and speed change required removing the outer ring of the aluminum platter. But having lived with a Denon DP51-F automatic turntable since 1983, I can't imagine owning a manual turntable again. The convenience of automated tonearm return at end of play is essential for me.

[@rickc661]

one thousand % my view > I had the AR T'table, found out a machine handles the critical needle / LP contact way better than my hands. especially if 'enhancements 'were happening.....funny how hard it is to find specs like wow/ flutter and Sig /noise now, ( avail. here, shock. ) they were very common in 1970's. typical bell drive then , $ 125. Wow /fl - 64 db. s /n 66 db. more expensive direct drive, 68 db W /F/ 70 db s /n. and the 'old school' aluminum machining back then is top level

[@thevinylattack]

Some people just prefer the convenience. Certainly nothing wrong with that.

[@mrfroopy]

I have had 45 year old Dual 521 for 15 years and it sounds fantastic and it works. it is automatic.

[@mrfroopy]

@@ricknelsonm Disagree.

[@thevinylattack]

@@mrfroopy Don't feed the trolls, Jason ;-)

[@LyleFrancisDelp]

Still using and loving my AR ES-1, bought brand new in 1986. For 78s, I have a ProJect Debut III with Ortofon 78 stylus.

[@sjgoff]

My father-in-law just gave me an MCS-6800 from1979? I just load up 6 LPs, hit a few buttons and it plays the tracks I select on each record. Pretty cool old school tech.

[@coda514]

Another great review, I've really grown to value your opinion. I've been looking for an automatic for my daughter and this seems to fit the bill. Thanks for the honest insight.

[@thevinylattack]

Glad it was helpful.

[@dimitriapproved]

That's amazing new technology. I have one from when I went back to the future in the 80s !!

[@kniknayme9865]

I have a Dual505 with the auto stop/tonearm lift feature at the end of the record . Love that feature!! That being said... about a decade ago I went in search of a replacement (just in case). The shame and ridicule(implied) that I received in the "hi fi" shops put a stop to my quest. Glad to see times have changed and it appears that its OK to go semi or fully automatic. My Dual505 has since forgiven me for thinking it was on its last legs.

[@thevinylattack]

You should always get the item that makes you happy. If the people at the hifi shop are rude, find a new shop.

[@jaycoleman8062]

I'm not sure just how much people expect for $500.00 usd. Hand-made in Germany with the ability to change the stylus and sub platter (Project reply) make for a nice unit. The om30 replacement stylus makes a big difference. More metal would increase the price more than people realize. One thing is that the spindle hole on your vinyl need to not be tight at all because this contributes to wow/flutter in my experience. And with a better stylus comes the need for very clean records. I have a nice setup and really ❤ this TT. But, opinions are like noses. 😂

[@themrgumbatron]

love your reviews and deep dives.

[@thevinylattack]

I appreciate that.

[@hugobloemers4425]

Nice review, and attention to it's heritage, that puts this product in the right perspective.

[@thevinylattack]

Thanks.

[@paulv22]

I had a Rega P6, so I've had experience with modern turntables. Meh. I replaced it with a Pioneer PL-50L II semi-auto from 1980. It was refurbed by Captain Mark on youtube and it's fantastic. It sounds better than the Rega, the end of record left and shut off work great and frankly, the engineering from 40 years ago was much better than the new stuff. I also have a Sony PS-X600 full auto. There's no waiting for anything. Press the button and it immediately does what it's supposed to do. Again, it's 40 years old. It'd be great to see you review some tables from this time period. Denon and JVC also made great stuff then.

[@thevinylattack]

I don't mean to be rude, but Pioneer has never built anything that can compete with a Rega. The tonearm alone is a work of art.

[@MichelLinschoten]

I got a pro ject RPM 1 carbon with sumiko Ranier cart on it. Absolutely love that little table in my secondary system .

[@jfh4270]

always learn so much from your videos, looks like a great little table

[@thevinylattack]

I'm glad to hear that.

[@gregoryirwin263]

Semi automatic is a nice compromise all I need is automatic lift and shut off at the end of an lp I used to have a dual 506 that did that and I always loved that feature

[@thevinylattack]

It's pretty handy.

[@AndyP126]

And another point. This is knd of a high price point. You can buy a LOT of vintage table for $500. For $300 you can get a fully services Technics SL-Q3 which is full automatic AND quartz-lock direct drive, and had solid aluminum construction. Obviousls this has the advantage of a warranty and tech support. But if you're looking for full-automatic and your price point is $500, you'll get a lot more table for your money with vintage.

[@DarthSculpin]

Regarding the cartridge, since there is no anti-skate adjustment, you're pretty much stuck with the OM series carts. You can definitely upgrade the stylus turning it into an OM20, 30, or 40 (which are very good). But that's about it, unless you find a cart the requires very similar counterweight/anti-skate settings. Just one thing people should know about.

[@yamajammer76]

Yes being non-adjustable is an issue, but using the OM 10 on a non-adjustable tonearm is probably the very best choice because it’s simple to upgrade with a better stylus for better sound.

[@Frequincy100]

I'm physically handicapped so I've been much more interested in streaming, but always wanted to try vinyl. This could make it possible.

[@thevinylattack]

It wouldn't certainly simplify things.

[@hattree]

I have one that looks like this, it's sold by Thorens. Andover is selling one that looks like this too. I have an automatic and manual, depending on my mood.

[@jasonturg2053]

Great review, keep them coming!!!!

[@thevinylattack]

Thanks! Will do!

[@EzeeLinux]

Is there any anti-sake in the arm on this? No one no where has said anything about it at all.

[@thevinylattack]

It's built-in.

[@EzeeLinux]

@@thevinylattack Did you put a test record on and check it? Does it work properly?

[@thevinylattack]

@@EzeeLinux It was fair. Better than what you get with cheap, adjustable anti-skate on lower-priced tables. Not as good as you'd find on something that's fully adjustable at about this price range.

[@EzeeLinux]

@@thevinylattack Thanks for the reply... I just wanted to know that there was actually some provision for bias. :)

[@EddieJazzFan]

Check out the DUAL 2110 turntable from the 1980s..this is just about the same thing with the addition of the automatic function. I think it's even made in the same factory as the DUAL.

[@theredon2]

I have a technics sl 1700 mk2 and I love it, one of the reasons, is semiautomatic beside is so quiet. I bought a project x2 and a rega p6 and and return both of them. To me doesn’t make sense spend the money when I’m getting better results with my technics pair with a denon dl 103r.

[@thevinylattack]

It's good to hear you have something you enjoy.

[@davidpetersen7091]

I "enjoy" your reviews. Clear and to the point. Mr. Pete------> aging hippie

[@thevinylattack]

I'm glad to hear it.

[@arnoldtolker3505]

Ich besitze einen Direktantriebs-Vollautomatik-Plattenspieler WEGA P-550 von 1980 (!) mit Goldring E III Tonabnehmer. Der WEGA wurde seinerzeit von Fehrenbacher produziert. Das Design stammte von Sony, die fast einen gleichen Plattenspieler produzierten.

[@yamajammer76]

I suppose they have more models coming, but this is actually the lowest level small auto chassis that Fehrenbacher builds. The biggest issues with it is there are no adjustments and it has a fixed spindle. The better slightly larger chassis which was used on discontinued models like the Thorens TD 190-2, TD 240-2, TD 103 A has a spindle that rotates and full tracking force and anti-skate adjustments. They also have the dynamically balanced ULM arm and a 78 speed option. I don’t know if they plan to introduce a model using that chassis, but if it’s not a lot more it would be better. I own and have a video review of a Thorens TD 103A and it’s a very nice turntable, but had a short life on the market. It would be nice to see it reintroduced under the Pro-ject brand.

[@thevinylattack]

I'd certainly like to see more options in the near future.

[@cunningtim]

I’m not convinced Pro-Ject engineered anything about this TT other than the label. It has the same build quality, and mediocre cartridge, as the low end automatic Dual I bought over 35 years ago. Having spent a lot of time repairing that TT, as well as much older vintage Technics and JVC models, I would definitely go with the Japanese here.

[@thevinylattack]

I can only go with what ProJect themselves told me as I don't have an older Dual model in house to make comparisons.

[@AudioTnT]

My vintage Dual CS 503-1 has auto-lift & shutoff at end of record but speed sometimes wanders. Could be lift is coupled to the motor to cut off power. Convenience vs. Reliability...your choice.

[@thevinylattack]

That sounds about right.

[@Trojan0304]

decided to add automatic via a Technics 1600mk2. yeah, old school.

[@alexarroyo2834]

itd be really neat to see a version of this with a more adjustable/ upgradable tonearm. i run a fully manual tt in my main rig and an auto for my garage rig, i never understood the snobbery surrounding autos

[@thevinylattack]

The general dislike for automatic tables is because they tend to introduce noise into the mix and don't sound as good. That said, to those who aren't worried about the most discerning listening possible, they're a great convenience.

[@loboptlu]

@@thevinylattack first this tt is made by Rekkord with 2 k . Second this is an older system who is not as cheap as the regular hansing models from audio technica and co and has no sound issues . You can even get a rekkord f400 with an ortofon red preinstalled. The f300 has a cheaper but still changeable cartridge and the f100 is the one that pro-ject gets and sells under their name.

[@mrfroopy]

Also wondering I read somewhere that you can't adjust tracking weight. Do you know what the tracking force is? I would limit your choice of better cartridges. I am not that clear on that on this turntable.

[@mickschnabel]

That was one of my reasons for passing on this and going w/ the Dual cs 429...you get more options for stylus/cartridges.

[@mrfroopy]

@@mickschnabel Because unless the weight of the cartridge you would replace the Ortofon supplied one is exactly the same it wont even track at the pre determined force for the Ortofon. I mean I understand a plug n' play deck but not for 500 dollars without any option for really changing cartridges.

[@mickschnabel]

@@mrfroopy that's exactly what I'm saying, and that's why I opted for the Dual CS 429, the tonearm is totally adjustable (and I got it at $250 below msrp) so only 50 bucks more than this ProJect model.

[@CosmicJive]

Excellent review, thanks. My limited, unusual space is perfect for an automatic. How long are the phono & power cables?

[@thevinylattack]

The power cable is too damn short. Maybe three feet. The rca cables are actually longer than the power cable so you'd want to plan accordingly or buy a new power supply.

[@osliverpool]

The "wrong way round" tonearm lift lever is standard Dual.

[@thevinylattack]

Crazy Germans.

[@ungarlinski7965]

Can the tonearm be changed?

[@thevinylattack]

No.

[@yorkemar]

Ironically this might be the quietest budget project tt...

[@HappyHighwayman]

Do all "automatic" players auto adjust tracking, weight, and anti-skate?

[@thevinylattack]

The more reputable ones should. You'll want to check the details on the specific model in which you're interested.

[@HappyHighwayman]

@@thevinylattack Thank you. I was going to get the Pro Jec Carbon Evo which is more expensive but I am tempted by the automatic features of the A1. I personally hate setting up the cartridge and weight not that I need to do it very often. My Dual CS-503-1 got refurbished and sounds great but I'm wondering if a 40 years newer one would sound better.

[@randomdriver]

I'm guessing that this cannot play not more than one record at a time. I used to have an old Dual record player which could stack on spindle multiple records and play them automatically one after other.

[@thevinylattack]

This is a one-at-a-time deal.

[@Jimgress]

Really surprised you didn't mention the wow and flutter. It seems pretty sloppy for a $500 turntable to have 0.27%, and it's the primary reason I've kept away from mid-level automated turntables. I mean, you can get a Fluance RT82 for nearly half that for 0.07%. If we want apples to apples, my dad's fully automatic Pioneer PL-512 from the early 1980s was 0.055% out of the box and still well under .2% today. It just seems like automatic turntables are back to square 1 much like new turntables were about 4-6 years ago. This isn't new tech, it shouldn't be such an issue to match past hardware. I'd like someday to get a new turntable that has the features of older ones without having to recap, clean bearings, and refill the tonearm damper fluid, but alas. I shall continue to wait.

[@thevinylattack]

The main reason I didn't bring it up is because I think it reads worse than it is. Those are the tolerances that can happen, not what will happen. I didn't find my review table to be that far off. I should probably make a note to bring that up in the future though.

[@Jimgress]

@@thevinylattack that's good to know! Is there a reason why they hadn't tested a better spec? My partner hesitates at playing records because of the price of the OM20 stylus we have, and I briefly looked around for an automatic TT to resolve this and couldn't find any auto direct drive that matched the specs that I had grown accustomed to. I was so close to getting a Thorens TD 102, but hesitated due to the wow and flutter alone (and the lack of reviews btw) Glad to know that this table punches above its listed spec.

[@thevinylattack]

@@Jimgress It may be the average spec they found, or perhaps just the worst. I really can't say.

[@test40323]

Great review as always. Question: are vintage turntables worth it? If so, what to look for?

[@thevinylattack]

It depends on the specific table.

[@davidbalentine2110]

I look for mass. The turntable should be substantial. At least 12 - 15 lbs (or more). The tone arm should have no looseness. Gently hold the head shell and twist/tug/push it. You should not feel any looseness (maybe just slightly, depending). Expensive tone arms have none. The tone arm should only move up/down, and laterally across the record surface. And it should do this freely. Another point on this... vintage (old) instruments such as a record player need cleaning and lubricating of the various bearing surfaces. Also, rubber parts such as drive belts should be replaced with new. Cartridges are often worn and/or dirty. With all these considerations (and more), it is probably better to follow recommendations from Chris and buy something new. That way, it will perform up to your expectations. Remember to factor in headache (or avoidance thereof) when considering purchase - not just price.

[@test40323]

@@davidbalentine2110 , appreciated!

[@MH5tube]

@@davidbalentine2110 Generally speaking, how is the Technics SL-Q2? I might pick one up this week.

[@davidbalentine2110]

@@MH5tube I have no personal experience with that specific turntable. I had a Technics product years ago and it was dependable. Two things a record player must do is 1) turn at the correct speed, and 2) track the groove. I think the record player in question will do that. It has good reviews. Cartridge... if you can buy a nice new cartridge, it might just sing.

[@dewey70]

I was curious how the turntable determined the size of a record. Does it assume that all 33s are 12", and all 45s are 7"? Or was it detecting it somehow?

[@markopredovic3902]

Hi! You can operate with this turntable either in auto mode or in manual mode. If you have 12" which does 45 RPMs you simply switch to 45, lift the tone arm with cue lever, place it to the beginning of the record and put the arm down with cue lever. If you have 7" record which does 33 RPMs than put the switch to 33, lift the tone arm with cue lever, place it to the beginning of the record and again put the arm down with cue lever. It is not a rocket science :-)

[@markopredovic3902]

At the moment i am using fully refurbished DUAL 1209. It is a multi record player. You can change middle spindle and you can put up to 6 records at the time on the record player. When having a party this is a must have function :-) And this turntable has the options for 3 speeds (33 1/2, 45, 78 RPMs). You can also choose the size of the record. On selector there are 3 available sizes (7", 10" and 12"). You can operate this turntable either manually or in full auto mode. Same as with ProJect A1 Turntable. If you use it on full auto mode, than once the turntable is finished with getting arm to the record all the mechanism shuts down. Only record turning motor is working, nothing else, automat has no tension of what so ever. So there is no distortions from automatic of any kind. And one of the most important things. Many DUALs, mine as well, has a floating chassis. Do research this topic. Which in combination with rubber feets under the turntable further damps any noise which may either come from hard bases, mechanics inside turntable, etc. And yes, it does have better and warmer sound than any of the same price range turntables you can buy today. It really is an excellent turntable with excellent sound and is of course enjoyed by any one that comes to my house. Cheers from Slovenia!

[@dewey70]

@@markopredovic3902 Thanks for the reply! I have a Dual 1019 which does the same thing, I love it.

[@markopredovic3902]

​@@dewey70 Than why even asking first question if you own practically the same turntable as the ProJect A1? All in all, it is made after the old DUAL turntables. When first seeing the image of A1 i instantly knew it is a DUAL based turntable. Any one who has DUAL probably also saw that. And that why i bet A1 is a great turntable. Not only for beginners. If you have good setup and good speakers than you are set for life. Cheers!

[@dewey70]

@@markopredovic3902 I own a DUAL turntable, which is similar to YOURS, not the Project.

[@1mctous]

The published wow and flutter isn't hi-fi by my standards (0.25%). A 'table doesn't sound pitch stable to me unless it approaches 0.1% or less. The Fluance RT85 easily meets this spec (0.07%) and the U-Turn Orbit Plus comes close (0.12%).

[@thevinylattack]

Fair enough.

[@1mctous]

@@thevinylattack In tuning terms 0.12% is literally 2 cents (2/100 of a half step). I can easily hear this with test tones but barely discern it with real music.

[@thevinylattack]

@@ricknelsonm Sorry bud, that's just not the case. But if vintage is what makes you happy, then that's what you should do.

[@AndyP126]

I have replaced all turntabels in my house with fully automatic ones. Well, almost. I still have a Technics SL-D2, that I am trying to replace with a Technics SL-Q3.

[@thevinylattack]

That sounds like quite an undertaking.

[@AndyP126]

@@thevinylattack First time you get distracted with a record playing and it spins in the runout groove for an hour you start looking at tone arm lifters. First time you forget to set yout tone arm lifter and your tone arm repeatedly slams into it while your record spins in the runout groove, you realize that a semi-auto is the right solution for this job. Then you start looking at vintage tables and realize that quartz-lock direct-drive tables are so much more accurate than anything made today. The first one you find is a fully-automatic. At this point, you're totally hooked. I'm convinced that most modern turntables are not fully manual because of any kind of acoustic properties. They're manual to make a price point. If the A1 costs $500 and is mostly plastic, imagine what it would cost to make and sell, and late 70s, early 80s style fully-automatic direct-drive quartz-lock turntable in 2022?

[@thevinylattack]

@@AndyP126 Knowing what you want in a product certainly puts you ahead.

[@PopcornandVinyl]

I think they hit a sweet spot of price and performance for a particular target audience. This definitely isn't for everyone, but there are a lot of people that desire an automatic option that isn't completely entry level.

[@thevinylattack]

That's pretty much what I'm gathering as well.

[@jaycoleman8062]

I love mine with the 30 stylus upgrade...

[@mickschnabel]

I just pulled the trigger on a Dual CS 429. Got a great 'open box' deal, and was only 50 bucks more than this one. I'm just sick of having to run back in the room when an album ends w/ my current AT LP120. Hoping for the best, since the tone arm is also fully adjustable, so I will be able to use a wider range of cartridges vs this A1 model.

[@thevinylattack]

It looks like a nice table.

[@mickschnabel]

@@thevinylattack not many reviews at all on it, but the specs seem promising and the price was right ($250 off retail) so we shall see

[@thevinylattack]

@@mickschnabel Keep us posted.

[@gingernutpreacher]

First and since I didn't win a cork mat this is my prize

[@thevinylattack]

Well played.

[@troyarmatti7167]

I don't see how this tops the AT-LP3. Same features with removable headshell and counter weight adjustment.

[@thevinylattack]

Did someone say it is?

[@troyarmatti7167]

@@thevinylattack I just think the AT-LP3 is a better deal at around 275.00. I think people should know this. No slight intended.

[@thevinylattack]

@@troyarmatti7167 I think 'better deal' is relative. While certainly more affordable, the cheaper plinth makes it sonically inferior in my opinion. It just depends on what you're after.

[@troyarmatti7167]

@@thevinylattack That's why I like these forums. You can learn things from you and from other veiwers as well.

[@fattnersgeekfile5478]

nice i video thankyou….

[@thevinylattack]

Welcome.

[@terrata1]

I think i'll stick with my 1975 Sansui FR-3080

[@josephpolaster2271]

This is to expensive for the quality imo. I have a Mitsubishi lt22 since 83 fully auto with repeat, 30 lbs no plastic other than the 45 adapter. 350.00 new in83 no cart. It's a beast.This will never last 5 years imo. Thanks for review and honesty.

[@thevinylattack]

Thanks for watching.

[@jaycoleman8062]

That is almost $1100.00 in today's dollars.

[@josephpolaster2271]

​@@jaycoleman8062 and still my daily driver. Thx.👍

[@jkwhtsll]

It drawback you bypassed. Looking at that c-clip holding the platter should have alerted you to the fact that the spindle is stationary and does not rotate with the platter. Big deal? You bet. First, the platter is rotating about the spindle which represents a very crude bearing surface of which that c-clip is part. Second, the hole in the record is also rotating about the spindle. Now we are talking about very crude bearing. Result, my A1 has wow and flutter above 1% even without a record. Value with a record will depend on how tight the hole is in the record. Game changer (pun intended) mine is back in its box.

[@gotham61]

Why only static shots of the turntable? Surely some video of the unit operating and its automatic functionality, instead of Chris' talking head for 95% of the video, would have been really informative. Isn't that the big advantage of a video review over a print one?

[@cradio52]

True

[@mrfroopy]

You should see if you can get a Dual 618q to test out.. Its a more high end table with automatic features.

[@mrfroopy]

Also it has 78 RPM it would be great to see a 78 RPM test.

[@CaiusRo]

The sound of The ULM tonearm..is probably the best in the world. There just is no competition nor other manufacturers nowadays that use it. This turntable must be a treat!

[@Timgo96]

My concern about automatic turntables is how the heck do you even play 10 or 7 inch records. Are you even able to?

[@thevinylattack]

You can certainly cue up manually to play those size records.

[@hugobloemers4425]

They should have a selection switch for the record size. At least my nearly 60 years old Dual 1009 has that.

[@jaypr69]

The biggest plus of this turntable (convenience and easy set up) is it’s biggest negative. Non upgradeable cartridge, fixed counterweight and anti skate and it’s $500! That’s taking the piss.

[@thevinylattack]

You can upgrade the cart. The manual even shows you how.

[@jaypr69]

@@thevinylattack You need to do a bit more research. The counterweight cannot be removed or moved meaning you’re stuck with an Ortofon OM10 cartridge which can only be replaced like for like. You can upgrade the stylus to an Ortofon 20, 30 and 40 but that’s it, nothing more meaning it’s rubbish as a proper turntable and expensive too.

[@thevinylattack]

@@jaypr69 I did the research. It's right there in the manual. Nothing says you need to stick with the OM series.

[@jaypr69]

@@thevinylattack OK, we’ll get there in the end. The counterweight is FIXED and cannot be moved. Now what happens when you want to upgrade your Ortofon OM10 5g cartridge for a Nagaoka cartridge at 6.5-8g or an on Ortofon 2M Blue at 7.2g. You can’t because you can’t balance the tone arm so the tracking force is correct as the counterweight is fixed.

[@thevinylattack]

@@jaypr69 Yes, you can. The tracking might not be adjustable, but you can still change the cart.

[@jro7075]

this was a very positive video I have seen 2 more reviews of this turntable they all seem to like it but have also complained about the plastic parts like the switches and other plastic parts for 500.00 I would like to see more robust parts and less plastic I have 5 automatic turntables from dual to garrard and bsr I like automatics grew up with them first bsr's and then several pioneer models and an onkyo computer controled from the early 80's the last 2 reviews said that this TT once the automatic cycle finishes and places tonearm on record that it disengages ,you did not mention that I like to know what these other guys were saying I know for a fact that all at least my automatic turntables once they place tone arm on record the automatic function all ways disengages they confused me like they were saying that the A-1 was the only one that does this all of my auto TT can be used as a manual without engaging the automatic start up what did they mean????? I know for a fact that both of these reviewers did not have much experience with automatic or did not care for them cause all they used was manuals maybe they read what the info said on this TT ,it would be nice to have someone with a little more knowledge of all TT's before reviewing them and giving false info I wish they could explain it a little better CONFUSED !!!! JRo

[@rxt744]

Wow?!... $500 USD for a ProJect "branded" turntable that is basically no better than an Audio Technica AT-LP60 with a better cartridge. If you really want a "new" fully automatic turntable, I think one is better off with an Audio Technica AT-LP3 / LP2X and a much better cartridge replacing the included AT91, as well as getting an external phono preamp with the cost savings (instead of this ProJect Automat A1). Vintage fully automatic linear tracking quartz direct drive turntables look and sound so much more appealing than the ProJect Automat A1.

[@thevinylattack]

I'd say this is definitely better than a LP 60.

[@rxt744]

@@thevinylattack In price and in "brand" only because of the better cartridge (OM 10 over the AT91)... Take it apart and do some electronic testing - a la Amirim at Audio Science Review to remove the subjective from the objective measurements. Anyway, some people will rather pay more for the Audi than the Seat or Skoda (built by VW with the same parts, engines and platform but different brand, design, marketing and price for each).

[@thevinylattack]

@@rxt744 Not true. The plinth is better, the platter is better, the tonearm is better constructed and so is the headshell. I don't know if that's worth the extra money to someone or not, but it's certainly a better-built unit.

[@rxt744]

@@thevinylattack Fair enough, you did mention that the plinth was a better slab of plastic. The tonearm is debateable... it's the same low-end aluminium tonearm as the low-end Dual turntables (including the one that sold at Aldi last year), which is on par with the AT-LP60. Looking forward to the guys at Audio Science Review to take it apart for some scientific measurements. For $500 USD, there is better "value for money" fully automatic turntables than this over-priced low-end Dual rebadged as a ProJect with an entry level OM 10 cartridge (a Chevy rebadged as a Cadillac). Thanks for the review.

[@thevinylattack]

@@rxt744 I said there was plastic on the controls. It pays to watch the whole review to get the information ;-)

[@HappyHighwayman]

It's only $400 now

[@newriverratsam]

Automatic turntables.....pfffft.....I ain't giving up the inconvenience of my all manual RT-85!

[@thevinylattack]

The 85 has an auto-stop ;-)

[@newriverratsam]

@@thevinylattack oops...yes it does. I think that it has been used maybe once.

[@jvlentini]

So did you actually experience this turntable in the flesh and touch it with your hands? Why do you not have any video of the turntable in use? I don’t understand why this is just a talking head video. I enjoy your channel but this is confusing

[@JohnnyBeFilms]

It's got an extreme level of needle talk - why does nobody points that out? You can hear it from more than 10 ft!

[@thevinylattack]

Possibly because we all plug it into a stereo when we review. I don't generally listen to a turntable that has no amplification.

[@JohnnyBeFilms]

It's so loud that while low level listening it just ruins the overall sound.

[@thevinylattack]

@@JohnnyBeFilms I didn't have that experience.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

You get confused by an automatic record player? Okay….

[@thevinylattack]

I did when I was a child, yes.

[@johnholmes912]

Dual made unreliable tables back in the day; they were never much good

[@thevinylattack]

I've heard several instances to the contrary, but I wasn't there so I can't really say.

[@markopredovic3902]

I am using DUAL-s and DUAL-s only. Multi record players. Not a single problem with turntable. You just need to buy refurbished one. And that is it. Sound is excellent! Went from 75 to 105 cartridge and it blews AT-LP120 out of the water. DUAL-s are extremely well made and sounding turntables.