Subscribed because it was the only reasonable tier list that is not just a circle jerk around your roster on extreme
@JustinCasualGaming8 ай бұрын
100+ hours, all Vaseraga. Charge. Attack.
@zweiigorgon89808 ай бұрын
u were my first recruit and I made him purely a tank with max HP and he doesn't fucking die
@finalheaven98188 ай бұрын
This is the first tier list which I've seen put Katalina and Eugen on top. Now more and more people are starting to see their power and its becoming more common knowledge. Great job!
@Ansatsujin798 ай бұрын
First time seeing your vids, you earned a sub! Thank you for being the first person I've seen give Katalina the praise she deserves. Such a slept on character, and with a little work can be the glue that keeps the party alive and able to do damage!
@chrisj54898 ай бұрын
This is the most well tbought out, logical tier list I've seen for the game You convinced me in 2 minutes to sub lol
@lordkira97918 ай бұрын
This list is HORRENDOUS if you actually play the endgame. Two of the b tier characters here deal the highest dps and one of them just needs to jump shoot (not even skills) for the highest dps in the game (50mill in 60 second test). Id also face tanks endgame boss attacks and deal consistent damage without the need for moving around much as his personal double sigil lets him do so. This list is horrible
@phugindomas8 ай бұрын
List isn't shit, barely explained decisions, captain is top tier?? No. I'd being bottom? No. Rackham and Narmaya low? Ghandagoza is also one of the top dps and only needs slight build modification. This lady made a list and completely disregarded the endgame content. The character sigils are a game changer.
@DatBoiRatchet8 ай бұрын
@@lordkira9791she stated many times in the video that this tier list is not about dmg, stop being a dps meta slave frfr
@Phoenixcallo8 ай бұрын
Rosetta's Buffs have unlimited duration, but only 1 can be active at a time. If you cycle them then yes they feel short because they cancel out eachother. Also you do NOT need to be near a rose to be buffed.
@mannsama70848 ай бұрын
This^
@coldnova8 ай бұрын
Echoing this. Buffs are party wide and constantly pulse based on the colour of the rose circle. Theyre still generic buffs, but they require no interaction from other players.
@TonberrySupra8 ай бұрын
I'm sobbing at Rosetta's placement because I went in as a Rosetta main, started building Cag as a CPU pick, used Cag once in Co-op out of curiosity, and switched immediately to being a Cag main... My problem with rosetta is just keeping up the placement on her roses. Bosses in the game move around so much that it's nearly impossible to keep her damage up... It made a lot of the bosses unnecessarily aggravating to fight. I lvoe Rosetta, but dang, I really don't love playing her sometimes...
@starfire67895 ай бұрын
Same she literally struggles with fast bosses since she needs to place her plants since her plants have aoe dmg tho with the right set ups she she can a crap ton of dmg with iron maiden and spiral rose and lost love
@AlbinoWhiteGuy7 ай бұрын
I’m going between Lancelot and Percival for my first character after main. This was a great video, the best I’ve found on the game.
@sphaerah8 ай бұрын
Just to clarify a few infos, rosetta roses aoe indicate only their range of attack & skill radius. The buffs are still applying even if you completely at the other side of the map. You can manage a perfect uptime of all her 3 buffs (if you are willing enough) although just having defense & attack buff PERMANENTLY would suffice. She also is a great damage dealer (well of course, not as much as actual dps character) on bosses that are not moving out too much out of her roses. The issue the character have realistically is that, supports are wronged currently in the game, with the damage cap system, making their buff worthless, & the amount of potion/auto revive/ and guts traits that you get for free because of that damage caps, makes healing almost irrelevant aswell. But that affects all support builds i fear. The second big problem of rosetta, is her plants attacks.. do not procs cascade, supplementary damage, roll the dice.. etc.. & it makes it that she barely have ANY sigils to help her do something as a dps, while being a support would bring nothing.
@LouisAuguste8 ай бұрын
I don't agree on the support part i'm a gran full support and substitute is OP as hell if you build gran full HP/DEF with CD reduction coupled with phalange & Panacea (the other skill depend on the situation Veil (debuff immunity) , miserable mist (monster debuff for sba) or clarity) Gran can carry a party of 3 glass canon char. And substitute allow people to move freely instead of Vane's Dome when they all need to stay packed in the same place ! i can feel the difference when i play my Gran Support VS my Io DPS i have WAY less Quest fail ! So yup Gran Support does matter !
@sphaerah8 ай бұрын
@@LouisAuguste The main character has a category of it's own, it's not a surprise to anyone. If you play with a party of full premade, i can only imagine how useful it could be yeah, espescially if it allows for better building on three other people. But the point remains, that any other supports in the game brings nothing. The only supporting tool would be slow, paralyze, and freezing. Gran's veil, slow, & even his damage cut are good, but.. when you play with people that just don't get hit, because they are used to the game & bosses, you are kinda left to just throw your skills out of the window
@Keifer--8 ай бұрын
feels bad ferrys pets proc drain n shit lol. and im over here just wanting to play mommy rosetta :c
@sphaerah8 ай бұрын
@@Keifer-- Haha well nothing stops you from playing rosetta truly, not being a top dog of the meta, doesn't mean she is bad/unplayable. + with the success of the game we will be having updates & patches, & maybe they will balance a few things around, no worries!
@Keifer--8 ай бұрын
@@sphaerah hopefuly for some form of a balance patch. But oh youre deff not wrong. I've been playing whos fun and who i enjoy the most :,) Plus Rosetta's JP VA is one of my favs so i cant not play her. ill never let her go. lol. At least i have a fully geared Kat for dps/supp and Ferry for support. hopefully the future updates give us the goodies
@Saiakaa8 ай бұрын
This is prob the best tier list I have seen and I watched the whole hour and 25 minutes LOL....
@maymainssharedonebraincell60227 ай бұрын
Still the most detailed tier list so far for relink. After having played every character I cant help but thinking back to this list with how much it make sense lol
@evazinz97558 ай бұрын
yodarha's mirror image buff last for 3 hits instead of 1 hit, and with one of his endgame character sigils he can easily provide close to 100% upkeep of the buff if your teammates don't immediately lose all the mirror images.
@TheTickyTickyTicky8 ай бұрын
yeah yoda buff is broken for real. I thought I ran into a cheater when I was fighting Bahamut because my char didn't get hit by any attack, turned out there was a Yoda in the team.
@SuperSoulSpark8 ай бұрын
Also, using his mist spin attack in link time, he can start to compete with fire boy for extending LT. Especially with quick cooldown + cascade.
@evazinz97558 ай бұрын
@@SuperSoulSpark yep you can get 3 full empty mists off during a link time if you get a bit lucky with cooldowns
@crocooks58518 ай бұрын
@@SuperSoulSparkwas farming proto with a team consisting of perceival, lancelot, narmaya and me on yoda. Our link times were absurd lmao
@EACru20028 ай бұрын
This is by far the most well thought out tier list I’ve seen so far on this game. Very informative and thought me a lot not just about characters but overall game mechanics.
@rafaelcalmon28588 ай бұрын
About Cag, I would like to add she has a personnal sigil that applies a -20% Def debuff when she hits her charged attack, which is all the time so she can easily keep 100% uptime on it. That on top of Phantasmagoria stacking with all other buffs makes her, to me, a character that pairs up well with anyone (aside from herself, of course) 😁
@Sparda517 ай бұрын
The buffs don’t matter end game because of how dmg cap works, it’s really only there to get mvp.
@blannk7 ай бұрын
your voice has no business being this soothing, my ass conked out several times listening to this good list btw
@BrandonPaulLee8 ай бұрын
What I like most about this video is how evident the creators depth of knowledge about the game is. Really nuanced situations came up here, and we can really see just how experienced the cc is.
@PunpunRen8 ай бұрын
incredible insight on the characters, subscribed
@phugindomas8 ай бұрын
There was no insight, it was all perspective of a mid game or late game player with surface knowledge... the tier list was her popularity list.
@forbiddenbox17387 ай бұрын
Just a side note, that may have not been mentioned in the video. Vaseraga has an undying buff, but he also has a substitute in his kit. Pairing both, you can behave the same way as vane. The buff lasts more than 10 seconds, and can help you skip certain phases of bosses. I feel like my boy Vaseraga got done dirty for not being shown for his full kit's worth
@starplatinum35737 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, its a good insight about the characters.
@guitarheroziplock8 ай бұрын
Amazing video and very informative! Minor Rosetta correction, you actually dont need to be anywhere near the flowers to get the combo buffs. You do need to be in range to get damage cut but thats it :)
@maymainssharedonebraincell60228 ай бұрын
Lot of useful information for someone who are too lazy to build and test every character like me. 👏👏 Good stuff.
@KumaKing7 ай бұрын
Very insightful tier list thank you!! You pointed out some issues about Id that I overlooked regarding dragonform being inflexible at times Question btw you referred to FA a few times what does that mean?
@thefool86418 ай бұрын
Finally an actual informative tier list, as a Narmaya main, everyone exists just to give me mvp as I chain combo forever with Stout, 80k hp with max drain and max dmg cap.
@asunayuuki17057 ай бұрын
You not hitting anywhee near dmg cap with 80k hp.
@thefool86417 ай бұрын
@@asunayuuki1705 game was out for 5 days when this was posted btw, and yes I was hitting max dmg possible with 80k HP without terminus weapon, Its possible if you have the correct skills to hit cap and you have enough slots to just go Aegis. I have my terminus now and I am hitting new max dmg cap again with all perfect skills and my Mastery has perfect Dmg cap up, Perfect dmg, perfect Crit. Honestly Terminus weapon doesn't feel that good, you need perfect skills or its not as good as Transcended weapon.
@Sparda517 ай бұрын
@@thefool8641I think they mentioned that because you need to be under 45k to get the 50% cap buff from terminus. You will do more damage with a transcended terminus Weapon objectively, and you can’t really debate that because of the catastrophe buff. Nothing else gives that in the game which is what makes them the objectively highest damage weapon in the game. It might not feel good to you because you can’t have the same survivability tactic as the other weapon but it is objectively the best dps weapon. You could argue dead dps is no dps so you need survivability but with guts,autorevive,potion hoarder, etc, improved dodge, etc you’re just not staying dead.
@thefool86417 ай бұрын
@@Sparda51 That's pretty much my endgame build with Terminus, all perfect auto revive/potion hoarder/guts/stamina/berserk/crit dmg/cap up, with perfect mastery. but realistically not everyone has perfect dps/utility sigils to fully utilize Terminus because of rng, which is why most people will be better off still using there Transcended until there rng gives them decent sigils.
@KITE_178 ай бұрын
quick note on Ferry, if we are talking about endgame, having her character-specific sigils would mean ATK and DEF down permanently on an enemy as long as her pets are dealing damage. DEF down might not be good if everyone is hitting the cap already, but ATK down is. Helps keep the team alive on some scenarios and even enables some one-shots to be bearable.
@Yordyc168 ай бұрын
Love all the insight about all the characters. You slandered my boy Id 😂, but still pretty good content. Keep at it.
@mmm40938 ай бұрын
Pretty solid list overall, but I do find Rosetta's 100% up time on her 30% DEF buff + low cds on her damage cut and heal+cleanse skills really good with randoms that keep getting hit, proud bosses barely do any damage with this combo. Finally, her buffs unlike what the game says work no matter where the team is, they do jot need to be in the Roses' range for them to work.
@mkayultra7218 ай бұрын
I think there technically is an AoE on her buffs, it's just like 6x bigger than the plant AoE so it fills just about every boss arena.
@hua..8 ай бұрын
def debuff does absolutely nothing at end game when everyone hits the cap regardless of it, damage cut is definitely valuable though
@mmm40938 ай бұрын
not a debuff, that's cag, Rosetta increases your team's defense by 30%. 100% uptime, that with the damage cut makes them take way less damage. @@hua..
@blitzgaming50518 ай бұрын
Lots of good info. I thought about asking if you would do a tier list yesterday on your stream and woke up to this pleasant surprise 😁
@MushMunkey8 ай бұрын
thank you for the video. 50:50 🦍🦍🦍 Seigfried and Lancelot are so cool my favorites so far.
@MANGGG50008 ай бұрын
nice info , i wanna ask something . i play lancealot as my main and for cpu i use percy and cag as my cpu , who do u think work best for the rest of my team ? should replace cag with gran as the main supp ?
@PHISHDAdotEXE8 ай бұрын
One sec, I gotta lawyer up for my boy Vaseraga. Aside for being a Charge tank monster himbo, he has "Umbral Eclipse" that provides a AOE slow sandwiched on his DPS skill loop also if you want to be what I personally coin the fun "Nuke button" he has the "Immortal Pain+Netherwarath" combo that not only gives you Covered and Substitute for tanking but turns you into a hot damn WW2 mushroom cloud that's hype to the bone on pulling it off. Though the real downside of his kit is that the player has to be a positioning god in order to be consistent on DPS, Vaseraga has a way to provide party benefits like to take damage for other players and slow. Thank you for listening your honor, I rest my case.
@cawfee2547 ай бұрын
Thanks for the content. Could you boost your audio next time? Volume is a little quiet on the mic.
@mhbarney84998 ай бұрын
Its so nice to see that each unit is good and the differences are so small...there is no need to bitch around tier lists that way. I am a Rosetta main and I get MVP all the time...and she is a ton of fun to play...like so many others.
@RaidaOkaku8 ай бұрын
Might be too early to say that, but i think you might become the zajef of granblue fantasy, hard to find such dedicated, good and analytic players doing content about games, that makes it even more precious (Sorry for the eventual lose of sense of this com, i'm litterally a frog, and you know froggys and english "ça fait deux" as we say in france)
@bestregards96728 ай бұрын
damn people goin in on this game, love it
@Makkushimu6 ай бұрын
Is it on my end, or does the mic cut every once in awhile?
@HolyRain898 ай бұрын
as long as the dev don't fix the issue of attack damage cap issue, attack buffers will always be kept being not a viable choice compare to other builds. One way is to make future bosses have extremely higher defense where even a character with high atk and dmg cap, their damage will get mitigated by the high defense, result in not reaching damage cap. So players can make more choices of sacrificing ultility sigils or defensive sigils and switch to full dps to reach the cap, or bringing some debuffer/attack buffer.
@asamayomi8 ай бұрын
that is one of my hopes for the game, as I'd like to see buffers/debuffers more relevant even after content is on farm
@ogopogo11097 ай бұрын
late to the party but great video nonetheless, one small thing I noticed that you didn't seemed to have taken into consideration though is how fast a character build their SBA. Ferry, Cag and Rackam being the characters that can charge their SBA the fastest out of the cast gives them a little bit of extra value especially in speedrun scenarios. But yah, keep up the good work, hope see more Relink content as they drop more contents for the game!
@walkerhill12628 ай бұрын
I used to think Rackam was great in slimes, but Eugen is god tier for slimes with the right build and the laser cannon you wipe the entire field at once almost 190 kills in slime room easy every time.
@forget31008 ай бұрын
You can pick Rackam with an autoclicker to just "Lclick" and run 10 slime runs at a time without actually being there. If you set up a macro for "w > Lclick" it will go on forever.
@taokuroki7 ай бұрын
This is the only tierlist that matters
@bavarianwolf38067 ай бұрын
what is the best afk team build for boomers who dont min max and just wanna play the game as second monitor game
@mannsama70848 ай бұрын
Does Rosetta's rose attack count as skill attacks or normal attacks for link time?
@someronald8 ай бұрын
hey! I manage one of the Granblue Relink Discords' are you okay if i share this video on there? :)
@Darkrengi8 ай бұрын
The lord of flames approves of your placement of him. A king should be at the top after all
@LeoKRogue8 ай бұрын
As a (practically) Lancelot one-trick. Yeah. Makes perfect sense. ^_^
@rail76468 ай бұрын
with Rosetta I was never below 15mil ever in a Proto Bahamut fight and every single time hit mvp, rose buffs are map wide and flowers never ever wear off, you underestimate that girl a lot and might have no clue how play her and you miss some points on other chars, but you go more indepth than other surface level tier lists, solid job I would say.
@MaskyFalle8 ай бұрын
You mentioned something about Gran giving essentially full party invul through using substitute + phalanx but i still get melted during some boss fights like the proud dragons when i use it . is there something im missing?
@asamayomi8 ай бұрын
lanx will need to hit everyone, alternatively, have vane to provide his bubble and gran can stand in it to make everyone else invuln regardless of where they are.
@Maleficarios8 ай бұрын
Would be amazing to see how this tier list would look like for characters to have as NPCs in your party for endgame. Since what i find more is that.... lots of invulnerability/paralyze/freeze gets used at wrong times so, how would you estimate characters for NPC usage?
@Raven_Sol8 ай бұрын
I think you did my boy Id wrong hehe, he's amazing as CPU with double slow. Very underrated. (and yes he is able to slow in human form and again in dragon form) Also, he has easy to use damaging skills that dont require specific timings and the CPU is always able to pull it off as he has perma hyperarmor. I have openers with him do 10/20% of boss hp dmg with that alone!
@DieKao8 ай бұрын
This is the info I'm looking for. No one covers A.I. used characters and every tier list is just one dimensional af
@austiinos7 ай бұрын
Some sigils that are for the characters like you said for Cag is so true. Those character sigils really make me either want to play as them or not.
@navatheramenguy31278 ай бұрын
Eugen sweep, my favorite main cast guy Also small question, in your opinion is it better to spam normal shot, charge shot, or spam granade
@stupididiot93368 ай бұрын
Spamming 3 grenades and then shooting them does by far the most damage iirc
@Keyshawn138 ай бұрын
In sniper mode, throwing 3 made then shitting them to blow them up does a lil bit more damage than just sniping. So really either or works
@phugindomas8 ай бұрын
It depends on whether or not you have your character sigils. If you have both, you just spam the snipe, you use grenades for when you know a boss will be in a specific area soon for easy prep dmg. Otherwise, during breaks you might do 2-3 grenades while it's still. It all depends on the boss and how mobile it is. Dmg difference between the 3 is somewhat negligible. Grenade throw animation is long af.
@TheCecewlalala8 ай бұрын
finally a girl doing guides on this game 😭😭😭 thank u for saying that u can play any character because i love playing ferry as my main dps
@Keifer--8 ай бұрын
as a katalina main, this makes me happy. ive also never seen a single other katalina online so far. lol. feels funny though i got her weapon last. so i had to main ferry for a bit after getting terminus weps :,)
@rolandsteiner50647 ай бұрын
This is great info,there's so much to learn in this game...Can someone explain to me how to initiate a Full burst? I set it to "wait until player char bursts",yet they don't do anything with theirs. I tried it on the Shield Goblin miniboss in the first mission and only main char executed it,the other 3 did not. All of them were 100% up too.
@GrlSnipr8 ай бұрын
All Rosetta needs to be a good character is for cascade(maybe sup?) to work with her rose attacks. Iron Maiden stacks with spiral rose so you can actually get 30 rose attacks from 1 skill
@Yokai_Yuri8 ай бұрын
She is great with cooldowns since you have low C.D on her rose positioning skills.
@falloutpoy8 ай бұрын
Hello can you please advice good AI teammates, I am using captain and still on very hard but I want a team I can use up to Proud mode. Thank you
@asamayomi8 ай бұрын
vane, eugen, rosetta isn't too bad.
@falloutpoy8 ай бұрын
@@asamayomi thank you very much!
@p0ot8 ай бұрын
Love this list - very helpful for deciding who to focus on in endgame. Any thoughts from here on where to find people to play with consistently?
@theinfinitydie15828 ай бұрын
I think for Vaseraga, you have to blame the player and not the character. If you properly switch between doing charged attacks and uncharged attacks to top off the stun gauge or squeeze it in before a link attack, he gets crazy mileage off properly utilizing link attacks. Link time is also insane since it reduces the charge time for his moves substantially. On top of this he can also stick to enemies really well if he tries since his X > Y > Y combo and Battalions of Fear go crazy far, the combo can even be extended if you utilize dashes to do X > Y > Y > dash > Y > dash > Y. Vaseraga is insane and has crazy untapped potential, it's just his mains giving him a bad name.
@XvLarvavX8 ай бұрын
Ferry main here, GhostWaifu❤ Don't sleep on the phantasmal sigil that increases pet damage and allows pets to apply attack down and defense down on the boss! It's insanely good! Edit : 1:06:40 This had me dying because Asmongold mains Vaseraga and well... yeah. 100% accurate.
@benfinotti3548 ай бұрын
Hoping someone has the answer as I can't seem to find it anywhere. For Lancelot can you double dip with Supplementary dmg? i.e. Can you run 100% chance from Sigils and use his skill can proc it supp. dmg twice? Or does it still just proc once? I'd test but I don't have enough Supplementary sigils. Just a thought on either making him double dip on it or freeing sigil slots for him.
@EnderouSama8 ай бұрын
Yes. Basically how it works is if you have max supp damage on your sigils and use his buff it moves the damage up from the original 20% to a higher percent. Don't remember how much higher, but it is not a negligible number, so it's SUPER WORTH to take the buff and full supp damage sigils with him. You can ofc just drop one or two supp damage sigils and have it be a percent chance to hit higher than 20% on each supp hit when using the buff. This lets you have some extra leeway if you want to slot in some more utility. Very good overall
@darkstepshadow8 ай бұрын
Yes you can stack them
@benfinotti3548 ай бұрын
@@darkstepshadow @EnderouSama Awesome, thank you both
@15harry1507 ай бұрын
Rosetta is such a dark horse. The stun+burst on her rose explode is crazy. I think she seems underwhelming because of a higher skill ceiling than some characters and people poorly managing her roses (not just placement, but level too). Also the roses are 100% party wide, permanent buffs.
@wuuwei8 ай бұрын
I’m a ID main and I kinda like that he’s a underdog in a way, I have no problem hitting 14-16m honors in Protos runs consistently tho and I think him being able to have his slow ability in both his God and dragon form helps him to get a ton of damage off for himself aswell as teammates.
@dragonwaz8 ай бұрын
Yeah, not really seeing the Dragon form taking too long as an Id main. If anything the base form takes too long. Dragon form gets 4 combos base form needs to do 4 really long combos or 8 shorter combos if you have no skills of cooldown. I don't know, I just use ability, combo, use ability, combo, use ability, use ability, combo and it's done and I can swap in and out of melee and ranged combo's through that. Dragon form is your ranged mode. There are certain parts in fights you just can't be melee but Dragon form lets you combo through those or cancel your combo's specifically to stay in ranged mode. I often find myself combo'ing too fast and ending up in godmight without the ability to even use the heavy combo because in the amount of damage I did to get godmight the boss is in their no melee phase. Definitely want to build out Vane and Charlotta though.
@seanbutnotheard138 ай бұрын
I'm an Io main. I will say the one issue she has, specifically in the proto fight is sometimes her moves won't come out due to Proto's position. Like if he's floating directly in front of the ship, or if the game locks onto his hand but it's positioned weirdly, she'll go through the animation but the attack won't register. It's caused me to miss the timing of para to interrupt the beam move which leads to death, because i get nuked during the recovery frames.
@wishuponajirachi8 ай бұрын
i Feel you on Id. Honestly such a COOOL character - but I HAAAATE Dragon Form. Godmight looks cool AF, but I won't play him because Dragon Form is just not it for me. Would love a rework on Id, but I doubt that would happen.
@LPJMANGA8 ай бұрын
LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH LANCELOT I MAIN liked how he plays and looks reminds me of Poseidon from record of ragnarok but with swords
@SILVERONIN8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Rackams gameplay a lot! Dropping a nuke on my party is for the greater good lol
@Drew883178 ай бұрын
Any advice for CPU characters? I find a lot of them play like doodoo i.e. rackam dies constantly, lancelot circles enemies menacingly doing nothing, io whiffs all the time etc.
@adziakus8 ай бұрын
atm my team is made of Percival, Siegfried, Eugen as AI for solo play and already doing Proud. I think from all they are most reliable :)
@f.b.l.98138 ай бұрын
I can't decide between Lancelot and Rackam, I just wanna know which one does more damage.
@KouXii8 ай бұрын
Lancelot have more dps and mobility but rackham have more consistent dmg bcz of range
@ghoststriker65838 ай бұрын
Lancelot you need to stay very very close to the enemy bc his attacks doesn't have much range. But if you manage this, you can play with him.
@Maleficarios8 ай бұрын
But Ferry does BOSS attack debuff... this is invaluable! The issue with Cagliostro is her attack reduction buff needs to "activate" on traps, but ferry just attacks (Sigil).
@asamayomi8 ай бұрын
yes, but this is a list focusing on endgame, where that is less relevant right now as, for the most part, you don't get hit often since the bosses just fall over due to player strength.
@Zoeila8 ай бұрын
just tried Kat for the first time. while her dmg may not be as high the amount of uptime she can buy the team with her Invuln is insane. makes me agree she is insanely slept on.
@HeartPliz8 ай бұрын
I love the xiv references XD
@princessviolet42178 ай бұрын
Contrary to popular belief, attack buffs aren't completely useless despite the damage cap conundrum. For those unaware, buffs will not raise the damage cap, thus any attack that is already capping is not benefitting from buffs. Even so, SBAS and link attacks have absurdly high damage caps and the attack buff will add a significant amount of extra damage to them. As an example, Rosetta's SBA deals 1.4m damage without the attack buff, but 1.53m with it. Her link attack deals 583k without it and 653k damage with it. That's around a 10-12% damage increase on every SBA/link attack FOR THE WHOLE PARTY. This damage adds up since the attack buff can be permanent, especially during long burst windows where 4 SBAs and 4 Link Attacks (potentially 8) are used. The reason other characters generally do not bring attack buffs is because it's simply not worth running them when they can run a different skill to do damage with instead as it will be useful both inside and outside of burst windows. However, Rosetta's attack buff is not only functionally permanent but also built into her base kit; it doesn't take up a skill slot and is very valuable because you'll always have it active whereas the cooldown of other character's attack buffs significantly hamper their overall effectiveness. The attack buff also helps to cap the rose auto attacks along with Catastrophe, Tyranny, and Stamina. Without the attack buff her roses will fall 2-3k short of the cap.
@antoineguerrier29657 ай бұрын
My party consists of Io, because I enjoy playing mages, Charlotta when I want to turn my brain off, Djeeta because the game requires me to include her, and Narmaya to balance the party's breast size. Yes, I do go "Ora ora ora ora ora" when playing Charlotta.
@beyondearth64188 ай бұрын
Could you provide an Tier-list of characters when they are played as CPU / team mates? :) Not all characters play equally well when they are used as CPU vs. when you play them yourself. Going over that would be super helpful for others! cheers 👍❣
@Herdur967 ай бұрын
I agree with the tier list if we're talking about utility generally, however atm the buffer supports are kind of pointless to play that way cause its easy to hit the damage ceiling for each character, and while Def Up is kind of usefull, most times its not relevant enough, which makes it convenient to just play for more DPS. That said, support skills that gives Invincibility or Stout Heart are actually really good, and debuffers that play paralysis, slow or freeze are top notch, however Def Down suffers the same problem that Atk Up has, i'd like to see buffers given more value in the future cause buff skills are in the game and its a shame not being able to play them with a mostly buffer build in mind
@andialabisa61678 ай бұрын
i think she is wrong about rosetta. you can only have 1 buff permanently. if you apply a 2nd one via combo, the first one will run out. otherwise it stays forever
@Sombrelame8 ай бұрын
it is very interesting to have an analysis than isn't just "how can i make the biggest damage" and actually take the teamplay in consideration, i have seen so much build who simply go for the biggest self buff and just go for damage in the other 3 slots like are their character is playing alone. It's a playstyle, but i find it kinda sad.
@diobrando19878 ай бұрын
Good tier list but have to disagree with id placement for sure and also the reason vane is in s tier should be also because of his damage output too, you can literally spam skills and I would say he might be the best character period just because how versatile he is. You can make him full tank, break build, dps build, drain tank build etc.
@sumikomei8 ай бұрын
this isn't about damage
@dragonwaz8 ай бұрын
@@sumikomei It's a game with multiple bosses that have dps checks. It's not ALL about damage but damage is still important.
@diobrando19878 ай бұрын
@@sumikomei its an overall tierlist its not about only support either, if it was only about support or what they bring to the team then why is rosseta in B and narmaya in A lol
@OmniKing_177 ай бұрын
What is “fa”? Forgive me I’m sure this is spelled wrong. Someone fill me in please
@temper97757 ай бұрын
Itd be great to understand what youre saying but the volume wont go up any higher.
@ClickinUp8 ай бұрын
I'm biased but Yoda is S tier, mirror image blocks multiple hits for the party. He builds SBA gauge fast. 1 triangle parry and he's straight into the end of his combo chain with a supplementary buff. His damage is really good if you build into combo booster and combo finisher.... Yoda gang
@Kingdra928 ай бұрын
Do Atk buffs ignore the damage cap or are they affected by it?
@hua..8 ай бұрын
they don't ignore cap, atk buff by themselves do nothing if you're already capped
@mannsama70848 ай бұрын
Limitee by damage cap
@juliosanchez16316 ай бұрын
We need more men like you giving us yoyr advice
@ShakalakaKing8 ай бұрын
I very much look forwards to Seofon and Twyen in April. Hope this game is healthy enough to last until then.
@Intricategamer138 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention Yodas counter by pressing triangle. if hit he can go right into hit light attack heavy attack, skipping the need to go through the combo a few times to get the count down.
@espervex74948 ай бұрын
As a Rosetta main, I love playing her, but I can absolutely see how other characters have a much easier time. She wants to zone in a game where almost all of the bosses are highly mobile while having no tools to tie the bosses down.
@karutiger25698 ай бұрын
That KaruTiger in your chat seems pretty cool.
@asamayomi8 ай бұрын
WHOMST
@Miyamizu21237 ай бұрын
Thank you
@thanawatsudruangloet64508 ай бұрын
The way damage buffs should work is to include damage cap up along with it that can stack separately from the existing damage cap sigils. That way the damage buffs don't lose its value.
@RariDaGreat8 ай бұрын
Rosetta buffs are party wide. You do not need to be in the range of her roses. I have her at 25K power with full terminus weapon. I will agree you have to put a lot of work in for her though.
@MrMilkyCoco8 ай бұрын
I am a djeeta main through and through. Mc is the goat!
@liftingturtle10556 ай бұрын
This tier list AGED like a fine wine 🤣 now Rosetta and ID are META for being an AI DPS and Support... I knew from the start that Id and Rosetta HAS a very big potential in end game grind.... man... those 2 are powerhouse as an AI
@Durahan138 ай бұрын
I will add for Vas. Stacking Undying + Substitute let's EVERYONE tank skyfall. That said, all good info to have. I realized I tend to get drawn towards the Tanks(Vaseraga and Vane) mainly with my 3rd and 4th picks being Gran and Kat.
@skyslayer76608 ай бұрын
Or you can just take a couple steps to the side and avoid it 😊
@Durahan138 ай бұрын
@@skyslayer7660 Yes thank you. But i'm also saying his ability to combo Undying + Substitute(With an explosion at the end that increases in strength the more damage he soaked up) wasn't mentioned.
@skyslayer76608 ай бұрын
@@Durahan13 Does he get extra damage from teammates taking damage too? Also how does that work with damage cap?
@Durahan138 ай бұрын
@@skyslayer7660 Since their damage would be directed towards him, yeah. As far as the damage cap goes, no clue. Since i've typically just played with like 1 other friend or with AI(Who tend to dodge damage under most circumstances) I haven't found the "Ceiling" yet. But the hardest i've hit with it so far has been about 2m damage after standing in Proud mode wind Wyrm's bloodlusted tornado. Haven't landed the explosion on Bahamut since the AOE is fairly small for it.
@GrlSnipr8 ай бұрын
@@Durahan13stand on the front left cannon after sky fall his hand will be placed there
@EnderouSama8 ай бұрын
See Id actually is top tier. He actually outputs more damage than the rest of the cast. You just need to get good at using dragon form :v
@asamayomi8 ай бұрын
I hear you can make Rosetta's roses do 999999 damage per hit if you build only defense too.
@DisciplineO_o8 ай бұрын
@@asamayomihuhh ???
@asamayomi8 ай бұрын
@@DisciplineO_o (this is a joke)
@proto9198 ай бұрын
Its true i mained narmaya for 120h my best time on proto bahamut with her solo with ai was around 9 min id after 10 h practice gets me 6 min 40 sec
@thelaughingdragon328 ай бұрын
@@asamayomiis this gas lighting?
@SyscoKiid8 ай бұрын
Id is definitely not lacking in the dmg department like you said but I understand the utility part forsure
@asamayomi8 ай бұрын
The difference in damage between the best and worst isn't insurmountable and will realistically not matter in any scenario, but he is still closer to the bottom than the top.
@MosesSuppose8 ай бұрын
Girl wtf are your rotations and build because Id literally does the highest damage in the game by a huge amount, never needs to stop attacking, and has 8 skills instead of 4.
@guest00468 ай бұрын
Yes, Id is insane dps. But Rackam can have 100% uptime on dps cause hes ranged dmg
@Reikuma-X8 ай бұрын
@@MosesSuppose Id has great damage if he is buffed, and has link Time to spam godmight but if you have a fully min maxed ID vs any other character his 30 second time attack will always be lower than anyone else. trust me, I main id and can not get any more damage out of him running 4 dmg caps, tyranny, stamina, glass cannon, supp dmg and war element with a maxed terminus weapon and any other character can output millions more in the same amount of time. ID takes too much time to set up a good damage rotation and it doesn't last long enough. now with that said, ID is still great this game has no bad characters but it does have insane characters and ID isn't one of them
@hua..8 ай бұрын
@@MosesSuppose no he doesn't, he does very consistent dps but isn't anywhere near the highest
@AzraelVhae8 ай бұрын
Charlotta has a 50% dmg cut aoe buff (not global) and its uptime is the same as her uptime in boss due to Cascade/awakening traits. If she's already damage capped, she can replace her self buff with this
@Duhddy8 ай бұрын
I would argue Lancelot is S++ Tier. Very likely the only class in the game who at endgame could easily solo any boss in the game, including the upcoming boss in March on release and NEVER die. Every other class would have to try at least 2-4 times harder to achieve the same thing. Infinite dodges with Flight or Fight + Mirror Image as insurance? Makes him break the game, almost can't be touched and almost always in invulnerability state. He abuses the game mechanics to the utmost degree, maybe even the dev team didn't consider what they have done.
@kittykedama76438 ай бұрын
i wouldve put rosetta ahead of id in the case that her damage cut skill stacks with phalanx easily reaching 100 damage cut but yea it all decides on if anyone wants to be a team player too
@SliderFury18 ай бұрын
Zeta is a monster. So much damage. So much crit.
@embeux49078 ай бұрын
ID and Siegfried are the best DPS out there like way more. It does matter which ones put more out.
@nanashiryuu56308 ай бұрын
hey great videos but you should think about increasing the volume for your audio.. its very feint