The Pros & Cons Of Sequential Gearboxes

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@acerusea5156
@acerusea5156 5 жыл бұрын
If you've driven the BMW M3 GTR in Need for Speed Most Wanted you would immediately fall in love with the transmission whine
@acerusea5156
@acerusea5156 4 жыл бұрын
@Vaas Montenegro straight cut gears
@michaeldavis2531
@michaeldavis2531 4 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean it's sequential.
@kiwihunter3476
@kiwihunter3476 3 жыл бұрын
Those were actually only built in manual and that's a good thing because the auto trans was a ticking time bomb and the "manual" mode is one of few where you can confidently say you would be faster shifting yourself
@clips_from_everything
@clips_from_everything 3 жыл бұрын
*THAT'S WHY I AM HERE AND THIS IS THE TOP COMMENT WTF*
@M4RK_349
@M4RK_349 3 жыл бұрын
Same bruh
@mrsides89
@mrsides89 5 жыл бұрын
Sequential = straight to business H pattern = joy of driving
@easyenetwork2023
@easyenetwork2023 3 жыл бұрын
Make better time with sequential though.
@xquisid
@xquisid 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine having an old 90's NSX with sequential gearbox....
@barbosaguzman6101
@barbosaguzman6101 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analogy
@barbosaguzman6101
@barbosaguzman6101 3 жыл бұрын
@@xquisid oh its possible just how deep are ones pockets 😉
@yeejay6396
@yeejay6396 2 жыл бұрын
@@barbosaguzman6101 this... 🌬️💸
@takiua2264
@takiua2264 4 жыл бұрын
He just had to crush my dreams when he said the cost of the sequential
@anattempttomakecontent776
@anattempttomakecontent776 3 жыл бұрын
@Thrashing Hentai as if that makes it better
@ihteshamkhan4696
@ihteshamkhan4696 3 жыл бұрын
11k is actually cheap, they’re usually over 20k-30k
@barbosaguzman6101
@barbosaguzman6101 3 жыл бұрын
@@ihteshamkhan4696 exactly.. theres a UK firm that have starting prices at 8K.. Add another 1 to 2K for mapping fine tuning the car. Saving up for one .. slap it in me scooby 😈
@he-who
@he-who 2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna build an mr2 with a sequential trans and a vr6 but it’s starting to seem a bit expensive 😂
@jkh8350
@jkh8350 2 жыл бұрын
Your best option is to super bike engine swap your car
@snaaail
@snaaail 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone else absolute love the sound of straight cut gears?
@souheib9343
@souheib9343 7 жыл бұрын
If I had a quid for each time he says "selector" I would be able to afford a car AND install a sequential gearbox
@Ronin-gy5ob
@Ronin-gy5ob 5 жыл бұрын
Sequential = Serious driving Manual = Fun
@nicholasjacob8841
@nicholasjacob8841 4 жыл бұрын
other way
@Slayer119988
@Slayer119988 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjacob8841 legitimate race cars use sequential, which would be serious driving.
@dieselgeezer18
@dieselgeezer18 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slayer119988 because its serious doesn't nesecarilly mean its more fun
@ale_s45
@ale_s45 3 жыл бұрын
Auto: noob driving DCT: Heavvy wallet driving
@johndavidson3424
@johndavidson3424 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjacob8841 You mad bro, H-pattern manual gearbox are more fun to drive than a sequential gearbox, and sequential gearbox are so focused like an Automatic(like a DCT with paddle shifters, not a CVT or AMT) and are much quicker than a manual too.
@grren1782
@grren1782 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a motorcycle mechanic...... I literally know the inside of these transmissions like the back of my hand.... Why the hell am I here.... Eh whatever still entertaining
@zigbo5659
@zigbo5659 3 жыл бұрын
Master of your art I see
@6Mar99
@6Mar99 3 жыл бұрын
I've started in motorcycles before driving a manual car so I've always wondered why manual car's don't use a sequential gearbox. Thanks for the explanation!
@therwfer
@therwfer 7 жыл бұрын
1:52 "The need for a clutch is eliminated [...]" You're leaving out quite a chunk here. Should be either "The need for a clutch is eliminated if you have a quickshifter" or "The need for a clutch is eliminated if you know what you're doing, and even then this can put quite some wear on the poor thing if your timing isnt right". To change a gear, a sequential transmission has to be free of load. Modern cars and many bikes will cut the ignition for a split second which accomplishes that. If not, you have to invert the throttle for a gear change. So if you accelerate and want to shift up, you have to put mild pressure on the gear lever, then close the throttle and open it again very quickly. Or vice versa, for a downshift, give it some throttle for a brief moment. The gear will change "itself" the moment when load is around zero. In this scenario there are soooooo many ways to fuck up. I managed to: - not close the throttle far enough, making me land between gears - not go through the gear change all the way, making me land between gears - not close the throttle far enough, but apply a lot of pressure on the gear lever, which does the gear change, but is audibly BAD for the transmission - do the gear change before I want it, because I go over a hump Not saying, you shouldnt shift clutchless (I do it all the time). Just that your info is too casual.
@assi2assi
@assi2assi 7 жыл бұрын
yes or (especially on a bike)tip the fking clutch.if you do it right it takes not long and you dont have to worry about fking sth up sure if you race and rev the shit out of it you dont clutch,but then you dont give a shit about wear xD
@nathanbaeyens2856
@nathanbaeyens2856 7 жыл бұрын
it is truly difficult to mess up a clutchless shift on a motorcycle if everything is functioning as it should.
@brettershoalar9001
@brettershoalar9001 5 жыл бұрын
Ignition timing and seq gearboxes? I know that most of the time you install the box together with a 'ignition cut system'. Yes, this needs to be set up propa anyway.
@brettershoalar9001
@brettershoalar9001 5 жыл бұрын
Nate Diggaroo yeah, I've heard stories about loose selector forks or bad runout on the selector shaft. Normally you should not be on the throttle during shift IF you're not working with a ignition time breaker during shifts.
@jacobk.6948
@jacobk.6948 5 жыл бұрын
@@assi2assi then there is one Finger less on the handlebar... Not good when you drive fast on the street
@plainee6183
@plainee6183 5 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of straight cut gears
@barrels5262
@barrels5262 7 жыл бұрын
How can you not love the sound of straight cut gears?
@Hamachingo
@Hamachingo Жыл бұрын
Try going fast in your car in reverse. On its own that noise sucks. Combined with a big turbo and anti-lag it’s great.
@michaeldavis2531
@michaeldavis2531 3 жыл бұрын
They don't necessarily always need to be hydraulic or pneumatic actuators. In this case of a sequential transmission with a manual shift lever, it's usually just a mechanical linkage.
@vitark1544
@vitark1544 7 жыл бұрын
I recently drove a racecar with a 6 speed dog box and I say that it's the most awesome and connected feeling you get with a car! You feel everything on the gearbox and I didn't do clutchless shifts although I saw the owner do it and was amazed by the low drop in RPM and shift time. If you do it right it's almost like a sequential but with the benefits of having the H pattern
@Racing_Fox
@Racing_Fox 5 жыл бұрын
Vítor Brás was that a sequential or h pattern 6 speed?
@revikxoACE
@revikxoACE 28 күн бұрын
I actually love the whine of the sequential transmission in my e46 m3, and it’s not a pain in the ass for driving around city, I think mostly because the car will downshift for you, and it has automatic mode which is a nice feature. I mostly drive it in regular mode and don’t often use the paddle shifters, I feel that you get a better and faster response when shifting from the knob.
@8PK4Life8
@8PK4Life8 7 жыл бұрын
FYI: The reason you don't need a clutch on some sequential upshifts is only down to electronics, i.e ignition/fuel cut (or closing the throttle slightly), and a blipping system on the downshifts. I use the clutch on my bike engined car for downshifts and for 1st to 2nd as you have to cross neutral.
@futureshit-glungis7202
@futureshit-glungis7202 2 жыл бұрын
You can do a clutchless upshift without an electronic quickshifter if you let off the gas and get the timing right. And theoretically you could also blipp it down but this is far far more difficult and i dont think a human could really do that reliably enough to mot hurt the transmission
@Automobilissimo
@Automobilissimo 7 жыл бұрын
I find amazing the sond they do when changing gears! - MP -
@ostfahrstreifen8421
@ostfahrstreifen8421 7 жыл бұрын
better than double clutch farting, by far
@Oberheiko
@Oberheiko 7 жыл бұрын
like the BMW GTR in Need for Speed MW
@haaxxx9
@haaxxx9 7 жыл бұрын
Gran turismo 4, Chevrolet Corvette C5R. Get out of here please :)
@emmareporter4324
@emmareporter4324 7 жыл бұрын
What I like in need or speed most wanted is the Shelby Cobra
@monkeyeatbanana
@monkeyeatbanana 7 жыл бұрын
Sound*
@ridingwithjander5520
@ridingwithjander5520 6 жыл бұрын
The noise that sequential gear boxes make is amazing
@Ninja98x
@Ninja98x 7 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point out one small inaccuracy: straight-cut gears don't actually have less power loss than helical gears. Both have pretty much negligible power loss, but helical gears are actually just a tiny tiny bit more efficient. However, the reason racecars use straight-cut gears is because helical gears introduce forces in extra directions. Basically they want to push past each other and they want to push each other apart. These extra forces mean the gearbox housing needs to be stronger, which makes it heavier. So the TL;DR is: straight-cut gears are not more efficient, but they allow a lighter transmission housing, so the car can be just a little bit lighter.
@mazder_2709
@mazder_2709 7 жыл бұрын
Straight cut gears BMW M3 GT-R NFSMW 2005
@acerusea5156
@acerusea5156 5 жыл бұрын
The M3 GTR in Carbon is insane with more audacity in the whining
@arjun._.bbC6
@arjun._.bbC6 5 жыл бұрын
@@acerusea5156 The Transmission whine is crazier in the carbon and I love it!
@BondTheOGYT
@BondTheOGYT 7 жыл бұрын
Car Throttle notifications is what I live for
@BondTheOGYT
@BondTheOGYT 7 жыл бұрын
& car memes
@8milesaboveyou819
@8milesaboveyou819 7 жыл бұрын
Bond .
@toroseye
@toroseye 7 жыл бұрын
Bond leave
@zefn190
@zefn190 7 жыл бұрын
nah watching brand spanking new Car Throttle videos is what i live for
@Wildchildinc
@Wildchildinc 7 жыл бұрын
Sequential gearboxes are goals for speed! That's why I don't understand the manual elitist that talk down about semi-autos or dual clutch transmissions because these days they are getting close to speed with sequential and shift faster than the average manual driver.
@maximilianhummelde
@maximilianhummelde 7 жыл бұрын
It not all about speed but fun.
@Wildchildinc
@Wildchildinc 7 жыл бұрын
Keule〈3® Beating lap times and going fast is fun. Using a full manual is fun too, but feels like a hassle over prolonged times like regular commute in traffic. Any form is fun during spiritrd driving.
@giriwidodo8013
@giriwidodo8013 7 жыл бұрын
ahem, heel and toe downshifting
@Wildchildinc
@Wildchildinc 7 жыл бұрын
There's still a delay downshifting even with heel + toe. I'm just saying there is no point for elitist to be down talking semi-autos/dual clutch when they are getting to speed with sequential transmissions. In the end, driving a manual isn't all too impressive because it becomes second nature with practice like learning an instrument. No matter what car or transmission a user enjoys, spirited driving will always be fun.
@hyperlogos
@hyperlogos 7 жыл бұрын
If all you care about is the best driving experience then you should have a modern automatic, they make shifts faster than you do and since they have a torque converter power stays smooth while shifting.
@aznnubbyboy
@aznnubbyboy 7 жыл бұрын
car enthusiasts don't hate on sequential nor automatic cars. true car enthusiasts might prefer manual gearbox but they will love all kinds of car regardless of what transmission it has. I'm sure car enthusiasts find joy in anything with 4 wheels that drive whether it's fast, slow, queer, low, high doesn't matter as long as it makes you smile.
@kal1mm
@kal1mm 7 жыл бұрын
stick sequential is better than flappy paddle.
@maxjtj31
@maxjtj31 7 жыл бұрын
KAL 1 why
@notirishrider7953
@notirishrider7953 7 жыл бұрын
for racing not really paddles will save you time on switching gears and you can keep both hands on the stearing wheel.
@Throwaway-kg7ft
@Throwaway-kg7ft 7 жыл бұрын
NotIrishRider I know, I just watched the video
@user-wy5uq7oq8q
@user-wy5uq7oq8q 7 жыл бұрын
for rally stick is better because in rally you have to throw the wheel around a lot (atleast in older cars with no close distance steering lock). Shifting while swapping hands mid-corner would be a pain with paddles
@markopetrushev3084
@markopetrushev3084 7 жыл бұрын
Truth be told it is
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 5 жыл бұрын
The straight cut gears are not just a clunky and noisy hassle, the whole point of helical cut conventional gears is that they have a higher engagement area and wear less when being engaged in and out of shifts. Str8 cut will wear quicker, but hopefully past the life of the vehicle.
@jackrichards1101
@jackrichards1101 5 жыл бұрын
I love proper manuals but one of my dream builds is a highish power EVO with a squential
@S1Sequential
@S1Sequential 6 жыл бұрын
Can I correct this, a sequential gearbox doesn’t have to be clutchless what this guy is describing is a sequential dog box. Drivers often clutch even sequential dog boxes on down shifts to smooth the shift this is sometimes on upshifts too, this is especially the case with larger road car engines that have high rotating mass. Also, although a selector drum shaft is a common way to select the gears it is not a requirement of a sequential gearbox any mechanical/electronic method can be used. A sequential gearbox is simply a gearbox in which gears are selected sequential (in order, one after the other )
@Ben_Mayall
@Ben_Mayall 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a good manual
@tomasgrikenis8186
@tomasgrikenis8186 7 жыл бұрын
Ben Mayall You know what's better than a manual? Two manuals put together :D I'm talking about a DCT
@giriwidodo8013
@giriwidodo8013 7 жыл бұрын
Tomas Grikenis nope, i still prefer normal manual than dct. because it is fun, and reliable
@monkeguy34
@monkeguy34 7 жыл бұрын
Tomas Grikenis nope lol, I have more fun in my manual es lancer than I had in my dct ralliart lol
@TheAdaaamski
@TheAdaaamski 7 жыл бұрын
Manual is fun but when I'm sitting in traffic I so wish I'm driving an automatic
@Ben_Mayall
@Ben_Mayall 7 жыл бұрын
Adam. Yeah, can't deny that
@rotorblade9508
@rotorblade9508 4 жыл бұрын
They are the next step from the old H pattern gearbox in Motorsport
@rickyduran7673
@rickyduran7673 7 жыл бұрын
Thx for translating to u.s currency
@Chimera6297
@Chimera6297 3 жыл бұрын
I like my H pattern, I would probably love a sequential but I can chirp the tires pretty consistently on an upshift which is very satisfying sometimes. and I feel like I shift fast enough. I've driven a DCT and it sure is fun to just put your foot to the floor and go through the gears, but it's electronically controlled. something is missing from the equation. I suppose the traditional sequential is more mechanical so that would be pretty cool. maybe I just like slamming gears and hitting that perfect heel-toe downshift, who knows lol and for those of you wondering, you actually CAN convert your H pattern to a sequential shift pattern by installing a sequential shifter. You'd still have to use the clutch shift but it's a basic "back to go up, forward to go down". probably not as quick, but it IS cheaper than shelling out metric f*cktons of money for a transmission that is going to be driven hard AF
@florianpike2250
@florianpike2250 7 жыл бұрын
Shifting Pop is amazing
@percsfn1133
@percsfn1133 2 жыл бұрын
can you stall a sequential gearbox car? do you have to ease off the clutch when leaving in first gear like a manual car or can you just put it in first and drive without using the clutch ? PLEASE RESPOND 🙏🏼
@liamaldous2624
@liamaldous2624 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video explaining why we don't use V4s anymore
@markopetrushev3084
@markopetrushev3084 7 жыл бұрын
Because I4s
@markopetrushev3084
@markopetrushev3084 7 жыл бұрын
Because I4s
@liamaldous2624
@liamaldous2624 7 жыл бұрын
Macedonian Gamer I have realized that, but why are I4s better than V4s
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS 7 жыл бұрын
Simplicity, packaging, balance, materials... V4's are a weak as hell layout.
@ZZZxRv
@ZZZxRv 7 жыл бұрын
price. just the price. i4, one head. v4, two heads.
@1InfinityShade
@1InfinityShade 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you decided to do this after the, "Daily Drive A Road Legal Race Car". I honestly didn't realize that a clutch was still involved in a Sequential Gearboxes.
@szekelyferenczzoltan2274
@szekelyferenczzoltan2274 7 жыл бұрын
I don't quite understand how can a sequential gearbox shift without a clutch, and a standard manual can't, while there is no difference only in selecting gears.
@MyLonewolf25
@MyLonewolf25 7 жыл бұрын
Szekely Ferencz dog rings Look it up buddy
@adamkelly1492
@adamkelly1492 7 жыл бұрын
Szekely Ferencz you don't need a clutch to drive manual
@Dirk_Taggesell
@Dirk_Taggesell 7 жыл бұрын
Was wondering the same. Either the clutch IS involved during shift (for the fraction of a second), or the electronics that controls the shifting dials back the engine torque just enough to switch gears flawlessly - rev-matching as well. I think this might be different from car to car. BTW: my smart definitely disengages the clutch while shifting :) (yes, that has a sequential gearbox too)
@realENGY
@realENGY 7 жыл бұрын
You don't have to use the clutch, but then you have to match the RPMs of the gear you are going to engage. This can either be done electronically or manually with the throttle.
@iamadness69
@iamadness69 7 жыл бұрын
Dogs
@paganidreams6608
@paganidreams6608 4 жыл бұрын
3:27 fuck me but I'm in love with that noise going together with the engine sound
@FamousAndYouKnowIt
@FamousAndYouKnowIt 7 жыл бұрын
You can skip gears in a sequential box... like from second to fourth... just clutch in, blip the shifter twice and let the clutch out.
@ueehurstonsecurity8887
@ueehurstonsecurity8887 6 жыл бұрын
thats not skipping gears, as far as the gear box goes. your still hitting all the gears its just not engaging the power to the wheels by skipping gears it would mean legit skipping them in the transmission, from 6 to 3 in one shift, one movement
@bazzyg
@bazzyg 7 жыл бұрын
I've got one in my E46 330i it's a DSG with paddle shift and sequential manual. Great at high speeds but a pain in the ass while in traffic.
@gigel99324
@gigel99324 7 жыл бұрын
Bazzyg you have a dual clutch gearbox in ypur e46. seriously.
@manfromnantucket9544
@manfromnantucket9544 7 жыл бұрын
Bazzyg I think you bought the wrong car lol
@junhaozhang533
@junhaozhang533 7 жыл бұрын
Bazzyg that called SMG
@sethjones9237
@sethjones9237 7 жыл бұрын
Poor Dedication Blog crashing out ha
@ProudMurican_PVT-GR137
@ProudMurican_PVT-GR137 6 жыл бұрын
On bikes we always use the clutch to change gears, it’s said that that if we don’t use it parts will wear quicker, tough they gear in without any grind or discomfort if we don’t use it
@georgekostaras3798
@georgekostaras3798 7 жыл бұрын
that wtf1 clip
@kaustubhpethkar4769
@kaustubhpethkar4769 7 жыл бұрын
@Car Throttle best channel for engineheads, i love your channel.
@improvementology4011
@improvementology4011 7 жыл бұрын
Roses are red Violets are blue I am not early And neither are you
@manfromnantucket9544
@manfromnantucket9544 7 жыл бұрын
boo
@CobaltKiller_ZA
@CobaltKiller_ZA 7 жыл бұрын
Im 5 months later than you buddy😂
@bencrosbie
@bencrosbie 6 жыл бұрын
I top that lmao
@piotr88e
@piotr88e 6 жыл бұрын
well i'm not early as well
@sheesh4434
@sheesh4434 6 жыл бұрын
well i am 1 year later
@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts
@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 5 жыл бұрын
Clk Gtr road car came with the same sequential gearbox as the racecar. The clutch wasn't needed to shift but apparently would only last a few hundred miles without it
@crashdrift4742
@crashdrift4742 7 жыл бұрын
They showed one of Chris Drifts crashes twice in the video.
@F-Man
@F-Man 7 жыл бұрын
I've driven both manual and sequential gearboxes, and I prefer a traditional manual for normal types of driving (road stuff), as being able to select any gear at any time is very useful in the road, like downshifting from 5th to 3rd to climb a hill. With a sequential box, driving on the road is a pain.
@easyenetwork2023
@easyenetwork2023 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the fact you should not be able to miss a shift is nice, right?
@kevinbarath6808
@kevinbarath6808 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you could build a car from just scrap parts if you look back at all you videos Who Agree's
@blazortheepic0384
@blazortheepic0384 7 жыл бұрын
Slim Cheddar top gear did something like that
@davidrestrepo3721
@davidrestrepo3721 6 жыл бұрын
You could but id question the reliability of that car 😂😂
@Chubby_Lemon
@Chubby_Lemon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bart, loved this episode of science garage!
@probro6722
@probro6722 4 жыл бұрын
Pros - pretty much everything Cons - You can't afford it you broke ass
@TheG60528XiJinPing
@TheG60528XiJinPing 3 жыл бұрын
Straight cut gear whine is the most comforting noise in the world imo
@ianspeckmaier9565
@ianspeckmaier9565 3 жыл бұрын
My car makes that sound without straight cut gears, is that good? 😂😂
@TheG60528XiJinPing
@TheG60528XiJinPing 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianspeckmaier9565 a little bit yeah 😅
@gnrtx-36969
@gnrtx-36969 Жыл бұрын
​@@ianspeckmaier9565💀💀
@ts.exotics642
@ts.exotics642 7 жыл бұрын
awesome vid
@tomasdillard7429
@tomasdillard7429 7 жыл бұрын
My 1986 Chevy short bed stepside has a sequential manual shift transmission with near 320-350 horsepower it's a T5 Borg Warner. I got a really good deal on it I bought it for $150
@manfromnantucket9544
@manfromnantucket9544 7 жыл бұрын
Pro: LAP TIMEZ BRO! Con: not a manual
@flyzx2
@flyzx2 7 жыл бұрын
There is (ideally) no sliding motion, and therefore, frictional losses, between tooth surfaces of gears due to the profile of the teeth. The advantage of spur gears in racing applications is the lack of trust loads (along the axis of rotation of the gear) which would be induced by helical gears. This allows for a lighter gearbox assembly.
@Atem_S.
@Atem_S. 7 жыл бұрын
Track : sequential, Street: good old stick with a short shift!
@assassin879
@assassin879 7 жыл бұрын
I love straight cut gears love the noise and feel the clutchless Jericho gearbox is probably one of the best
@jakub.j1720
@jakub.j1720 7 жыл бұрын
Going to France is worth for candy up
@f0wL1337
@f0wL1337 7 жыл бұрын
Nice to see ChrisCrash here at CarThrottle :D Nice Video!
@MickZarco
@MickZarco 7 жыл бұрын
I finally got to know where's the "whine" coming from, thanks. ❤
@ilanmoore6957
@ilanmoore6957 6 жыл бұрын
my moms mini cooper s from 2011 has a sequential and an auto built in. it has both paddles and a stick for sequential.
@dp12480
@dp12480 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know what the video was about, just saw car throttle and pressed play
@daten__
@daten__ 6 жыл бұрын
Your R33 profile pic is my background on my laptop :D
@dwhxyz
@dwhxyz 7 жыл бұрын
The reason you can change gear without a clutch has nothing to do with it being sequential. Its because the gearbox uses dog engagement instead of synchros. I drove a car many years that was standard H pattern with dog engagement which was nice. Also note that that standard dog boxes require the clutch for downshifts. This can be overcome with electronics to auto blip the throttle on downshifts - most new top end motorcycles have this fitted due to throttle by wire.
@easyenetwork2023
@easyenetwork2023 Жыл бұрын
NASCAR still has dog boxes at the Xfinity level and below.
@jhansenduca1478
@jhansenduca1478 7 жыл бұрын
#heeltoedownshifting
@RazorSharp75426
@RazorSharp75426 7 жыл бұрын
did heel and toe downshifting apply on all racing cars with H-pattern manual transmission?
@HepauDK
@HepauDK 7 жыл бұрын
Razor The heel-toe is used for rev matching on downshifts. When racing, neglecting to rev match with a fully manual transmission quickly destroys the clutch, I guess...
@Wiikendzgoodmix
@Wiikendzgoodmix 7 жыл бұрын
Henrik Paulsen more like upset the cars balance and you risk losing control..
@bobby__custer
@bobby__custer 7 жыл бұрын
Please do a video specifically on straight cut gears.
@johnnypea5369
@johnnypea5369 7 жыл бұрын
sequential are expensive? they aren't expensive in motorcycles
@TheCrazyBird844
@TheCrazyBird844 7 жыл бұрын
Johnny Pea Mororcycle sequentials don't have to be built to withstand torque like the ones for cars do I'd imagine. Weaker materials can be used which equals less cost, and they're also making an ass load of them all the exact same which drives the price down. Getting one made for your car would be a lot more expensive. The example he gave is specifically made for the Miata and to handle over 300 lb/ft of torque, they probably don't make very many a year which makes it expensive and it's build to withstand quite a bit more torque than a stock Miata.
@matthewmillar3804
@matthewmillar3804 7 жыл бұрын
What comes with the gearbox you mentioned though? Is that a full flappy paddle retrofit kit for a Miata or JUST the gearbox? Motorcycle transmissions can't be that much money, that's more than the price of some bikes (although they don't need to take 375hp). There's also economy of scale since sequential gearboxes aren't very common and seem to be made for high end applications only. What's a price comparison of like-to-like transmissions sequential vs h-pattern?
@Zero_Ninety
@Zero_Ninety 7 жыл бұрын
Please stop calling it a Miata, it's an MX-5.
@xero6124
@xero6124 7 жыл бұрын
Zero Ninety the NA, NB, and NC mx-5s are miatas. The ND is the only one that isn't technically a miata
@bloodyfx1065
@bloodyfx1065 6 жыл бұрын
Please stop calling it mx-5 it's an Miata.
@MadIIMike
@MadIIMike 6 жыл бұрын
How about Eunos Roadster?
@philipfox2.081
@philipfox2.081 6 жыл бұрын
Pls stop calling it MX-5 and Miata, it's a 124 Spyder
@Racing_Fox
@Racing_Fox 5 жыл бұрын
Bloody FX even you Americans call it the MX-5 Miata so MX5 is the only bit that’s global
@LeBeckStudio
@LeBeckStudio 7 жыл бұрын
What about a rev match while downshifting? Are you forced to let electronics do the most fun job?
@justinschultz6482
@justinschultz6482 7 жыл бұрын
Video starts at 0:00. Thank me later Read more
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS 7 жыл бұрын
Rekt.
@MikeeCZ
@MikeeCZ 7 жыл бұрын
that avatar is an epic troll, bravo sir
@Cricis11700
@Cricis11700 7 жыл бұрын
SuperSonic_Savage This guy is living in the year 7102.
@crowvelle
@crowvelle 7 жыл бұрын
SuperSonic_Savage FUCK YOU
@tmr_media6927
@tmr_media6927 7 жыл бұрын
SuperSonic_Savage troll
@jayxtreme6
@jayxtreme6 7 жыл бұрын
Solution: automatic transmissions. Shift time doesn't matter because power flow through automatic transmission is not interrupted during gear change (by nature of planetary gears). You can also skip gears in a modern automatic transmission, and they are way cheaper than sequentials, and drive normally on the street.
@Clutched392
@Clutched392 7 жыл бұрын
Dear youtube recommendations, why.
@ninjakat8922
@ninjakat8922 7 жыл бұрын
As a rider and a car guy I (eventually) wan't to get a smart car fortwo and swap it with a GSXR1300 or a ZX14R engine. Around 190hp, 11k redline and a sequential gearbox. Don't know what i'll do with it but I have this idea stuck in my head for a while and sounds sick.
@Dacommenta
@Dacommenta 7 жыл бұрын
The real question is why would I want a mx5
@MadIIMike
@MadIIMike 6 жыл бұрын
because pop up headlights
@stantorren4400
@stantorren4400 6 жыл бұрын
only the 1st gen have them instead it’s because track day and light weight
@mueedk2
@mueedk2 7 жыл бұрын
1:40 my head actually just exploded
@memelord4042
@memelord4042 7 жыл бұрын
ayy lmao
@Sisyphus1942
@Sisyphus1942 7 жыл бұрын
As a motorcyclist, I find the part about the gearbox being difficult at low speeds surprising. Are we sure that isn't about the track orientation of the cars with them or is it because bikes are lighter?
@jayaneyon9316
@jayaneyon9316 7 жыл бұрын
could you talk about drag Racing transmissions. there like sequential transmissions but they use linkage instead of a shaft.
@myxtro7933
@myxtro7933 7 жыл бұрын
So how does an automatic transmission with shifting pedals at the steering wheel work? You can use them as sequentials too but does this work the same?
@Johnny-tq9no
@Johnny-tq9no 5 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear you need a proper electronic quickshifter to be able to shift without the clutch or it will wear the dogs in the trans such as in most motorcycles that don't come with a quickshifter
@alexanderbarr
@alexanderbarr 7 жыл бұрын
straight cut gears are savage and brilliant. Every car nut should love the whine they produce, just like people love a turbo whistle of supercharger.
@sleepytime6150
@sleepytime6150 2 жыл бұрын
THERE ARE NO CONS TO STRAIGHT CUT GEARS… just the price 😫
@adampower7915
@adampower7915 7 жыл бұрын
But don't some normal road cars have automatic gearboxes that can be switched to sequential by moving the gearstick out of drive and over to the right (tiptronic gearboxes) which I think are DCT as well
@jackbarker2914
@jackbarker2914 7 жыл бұрын
That dedication blog clip was savage
@That02subaru
@That02subaru 5 жыл бұрын
So I'm trying to learn and I havmt seen anything about weather you have to lift off the gas when you shift in a sequental
@Bru946
@Bru946 6 жыл бұрын
I'd say the risk of power gear selection and unexpected over revving is one of the best things about these gear boxes I've seen a lot of people on the truck mess up their cars doing this.
@BigSpaghetti6
@BigSpaghetti6 5 жыл бұрын
Straight cut gears are not prefered because of reduced friction, it is because of the weightsavings you get from the transmission
@amirnr5063
@amirnr5063 Жыл бұрын
for changing gears in sequential gearboxes u should push clutch pedal or it doesnt have clutch pedal??
@Pacify
@Pacify 7 жыл бұрын
Do you still have to rev match? I do in my 6mt lol and he didn't mention this.
@ajrg91
@ajrg91 6 жыл бұрын
This is what I'm planning to have when I'm ready to build my project car. An awd(or rwd) honda civic eg with a pandem kit and a sequential gearbox.
@zacgan1845
@zacgan1845 6 жыл бұрын
why dont u need a clutch? does the gearbox somehow discontinue and reapply the power during and after the shift?
@krisbailey8537
@krisbailey8537 5 жыл бұрын
Zac Gan yes it do
@brandonwright2067
@brandonwright2067 7 жыл бұрын
Great great video and thanx for including the US conversion
@MrEnigmaClueless
@MrEnigmaClueless 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at the animation for the sequential gear box was the first time that gear selection clicked for me. I never truly understood how the gears engaged to drive power through the shafts.
@mattlee87
@mattlee87 7 жыл бұрын
That high pitched whine is gloriousness
@rockets-dont-makegood-toas7728
@rockets-dont-makegood-toas7728 7 жыл бұрын
Well, the 2018 camaro zl1 1le only comes in a stickshift and does a 7:16 around the nurg.
@yatishvasa3560
@yatishvasa3560 7 жыл бұрын
i love you car throttle for the video editing part
@donaldasayers
@donaldasayers 5 жыл бұрын
Old codger here who has taken gearboxes apart. There is an unstated confusion here, between sequential gearboxes and dual clutch gearboxes that have a sequential action. Not all flappy paddle gearboxes are built like the illustration in the video, most flappy paddle gearboxes on road cars are dual clutch. With a dual clutch gearbox, what you do with the paddles merely tells a computer to work the clutches, change the gear and work the throttle to give a smooth (or not) change. Sequential gearboxes provided by the likes of Quaife have dog clutch engagement, are noisy, clunky and crude. Also they don't last that long if you do clutchless full throttle changes all the time. OK for racing, with rebuilds every season.
@markgaughan4021
@markgaughan4021 7 жыл бұрын
4:19 the importance of clean gear changes....in a Ford Ka?
@nbmaheswara
@nbmaheswara 6 жыл бұрын
(Dumb) question - use the clutch only when selecting the first gear from neutral right? If it's in 1st gear and have to stop, do you use the clutch (like manual) or not?
@powerdbyracingj.v4495
@powerdbyracingj.v4495 7 жыл бұрын
I love the straight cut gear whining sound
@aznnubbyboy
@aznnubbyboy 7 жыл бұрын
my z4 e85 has the BMW smg. most people hate it but I think it's pretty unique. to have a Manu gearbox with a sequential. but he is right, low speed town driving does really suck and it clunks and jerks alot.
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