The Purpose Of Different Surfboard Tail Shapes

[@johnreith4126]

Finally, a really clear and excellent explanation that really makes sense. Thanks a million for this as I have been bouncy between another pin or switch to a swallow.

[@diesaffer]

very well explained and I learned some things again as an old surfer. Love all the boards on display as well. Wow

[@lucasjohansson7722]

Best surf explanation video ive seen

[@michielbesseling6248]

Thanks for supporting local shapers and not the corporate machines. Your local shaper will always make you a better board than the stock (riderless) undeservedly hyped-up corporate boards.

[@sdsurfs]

Not always true. “Corporate boards” can be your local shaper that has a ton of experience making board for local waves like Matt Biolas and Lost is still family owned as far as I know. Sometimes your small scale local shaper is small scale cuz his shapes kinda suck. They still run their business off of board models they’ve tested with team riders. They just have less riders thus less research on their models. Speaking for SoCal, Lost, CI, Rusty, Sharpeye are some of the best boards you can get for our softer waves. A ton of local rippers ride these bigger brands and absolutely rip. A ton of them are on stock boards. And all these board companies are probably smaller than you think and pretty much locally owned.

[@colabsurf]

All shapers start somewhere. I've no problems with any shapers the world over. Or brands. It's just a case of understanding what you are buying. A shaper how ever big or small will help you with this. Talk to them. Also most local shapers will know the waves around them really well. Hope this helps 🤙

[@michielbesseling6248]

@@sdsurfs I can't find a wetsuit off the shelf that fits me, and I've certainly never found a board with stock dimensions that jives with me. I don't surf the same waves nor do I have the same style as team riders, and nor does 98% of people who own surfboards. I shape my own boards and I know my style and tendencies. And I can charge a lot less for a sick board because there are fewer middle men. I'm not talking down on these guys (I'm from SC too), but I'm telling you that there are better options out there and not to fall for their advertising. Find a local shaper. Talk with them,. Surf with them. Tell them what you want. Let them tell you what should ride. Compromise. Take out the big corporate machine (that relies on data scientists like myself to manipulate your thought processes) that lives in the middle of the two.

[@sdsurfs]

@@michielbesseling6248 Thanks for the reply. Stock boards work great for me.

[@latentsea]

What if my local shaper (C.I.) became a corporate machine? I still ride em. Even better now are corporate machine off the rack Pyzel Ghost’s 6’2” x 19-5/8” x 2-11/16” perfect dimensions, glass lay up, graphics, and fin set up. To each his own. This way I don’t have to talk to my shaper inevitably giving up info where I surf then he spews his trap to the team whores and it’s all over.. To each his own.

[@hounddog7256]

Now that explains why my 7'5 fish board is really hard to stall compared to the other boards... Thx 👍

[@mrkroeger]

My favorite tail was asymmetrical goofy foot. The back side tail was cut more than the front side with a couple of small wings making it easier to turn backside

[@yazmut]

he's the Russel brand of the surf industry!

[@boxofdoomisolationcabinets]

well! this was interesting!

[@bigdaddy4708]

Great stuff!

[@barniclegoose8]

Out of interest, what model is the first board with the swallow tail and grey rails?

[@jamesetal7088]

Fab U Less!!! 💙

[@foodndat]

cool video mate, i always wondered why the fish has that tail and the vague responses i get vary from surfer to surfer. What boards are best for Cornwall's beaches?

[@colabsurf]

Hi there, Cornwall's beach break's can vary pretty widely - It's all down to preference really. Some days it may be knee high slop, and require a board with more volume etc. - like a midlength. Some days it may be overhead at Fistral and require a performance shortboard. Hope this helps :)

[@latentsea]

“ Everyone knows a square tail holds in better than a rounded pin”... “I think I’m gonna throw my food on ya”

[@Joshua0321]

" that's just your Oklahoma attitude " love that movie

[@marcvince1261]

The important thing about tail is controlling your wait. If you want the most out of tail u need to be fit. Different tail does Different things. Some r fast some r loose. Always choose tail wisely.🤠🤙

[@colabsurf]

Hi guys, if Lukes babble didn't make a lot of sense to you please check the description of the video to see the main points to think about when choosing tail shapes for your new board 🤙

[@tidessurfmagazine]

Nice 👌🏻

[@soulsurfer3102]

What the difference between wide swallow tail to nerrow swallow taill please?

[@colabsurf]

Wide swallows usually offer a little more stability, and rail to rail transitions will offer a little more release, so better for getting a bit more speed on slower waves and getting slidey through a turn. 🤙

[@soulsurfer3102]

@@colabsurf thamks

[@ruolinchai423]

I got a sci fi 2.0 which type is it?

[@charlierolph9141]

I recognise that swallow tail👀😂🤙🏼

[@mindongolf8056]

Haha yep🤙🤙

[@barniclegoose8]

Would you happen to know which model it is?

[@mikestillshreddin7636]

I like the part where you discussed in detail the characteristics of squash tails.... c-

[@nickbrennan3389]

Surfers ability and type of wave is more important 😆....a pro surfer on perfect waves....will turn, carve, speed, rail to rail, transition from turns on any boards tail shape !

[@kookarini]

Nice breakdown. Oh yeah, be honest with your shaper too. Don't embellish.

[@Surfmus]

Tails: 5% of the surfboards, that is it!

[@Malama_Ki]

From my experience there’s a literal big difference between squats and cardio on female tails….

[@Kyle-mt5wr]

you completely ignored fin placement and how the different tails position your foot differently over the back fin. For some reason every shaper in existence has decided that all rear fins on thrusters will be place 3.5in from the midpoint of the back of the tail. This drastically changes both where you place your foot relative to the back fin and where the fin is. When you compare a swallow tail and a rounded pin the back fin can be either almost in front of your back foot when your foot is on the tail (swallow and thus loose) or even behind your back foot (pin tail and thus stiff). the back fin placement relative to your foot placement does more to shape the way a board feels than a different tail design ever would.

[@colabsurf]

Fins are probably 80% of the performance of a board. Without them the board doesn't work. This was just talking about tail shapes... And I guess the point was they all do the same thing and don't drastically change a board like other features would. Like the steering wheel of a car.. it changes the feel. Some tails that are synonymous with fin configs and position will dictate fin positions to a degree but subtle changes in tail don't need to change fin set up. I find a lot of shapers and board enthusiasts don't give enough credit to the subjectivity involved with how a surfboard works. You don't HAVE to do anything in particular. I move my fin configs around quite a bit even on thrusters, I don't let the tail dictate that though. I let the combo create the desired feel. So, in short, it wasn't ignorance it was just a lack of insight. We can always do more videos 👌

[@mcmcmc1]

Thats a really nice and bright insight

[@briantrend7401]

Dam well said. I've just made my 12th board and I keep worrying about my tail being a bit wide diamond squash. I made it as wide as I could spread my fingers but don't have a car to reach the only waves in the area so not tested it yet.

[@ben6507]

why are there so many dislikes?

[@JohnSmith-rk6jy]

You bleedin what geeza? I'll give you a bunch of bleedin fiveas.

[@pineapplefacetree]

You don’t know what ya talking about