The Pyro Archon Is FINALLY Here | Mavuika Pre-Release Analysis

[@thanatoswing]

this is basically an archon quest

[@pyronado4320]

1/3 of act 1

[@Scott-yh3pq]

Certainly more engaging than an archon quest

[@ConfusedOwl92]

​@@Scott-yh3pqFacts

[@el7284]

Genshin quests if you removed all the filler dialogue. "I always wanted to be friends because I never had friends before so if you'd be my friend that would make me happy" Ffs

[@alissonandre]

They last 5 hours now if you let it autoplay the text

[@GoldLink364]

Isn't the Mondstadt Archon Quest shorter than this video?

[@WinterDulcet]

25:16 L-Lewd…

[@SteveZood]

i stand with Venti

[@UncleMerlin]

​@@WinterDulcet what does that have to do with anything

[@Erkoriam]

actual full length movie

[@ooochoa]

The book was better.

[@felixmontanez4090]

Literal cinema

[@Kindi001]

tell me when they made comic addaptation

[@aelfgernon7729]

Not long enough to be called a feature film by SAG. (But its length would qualify it as a feature film as defined by several other organisations.)

[@Goodday639]

Feature Length 💀

[@eccehomo5122]

It's sad how she got so much mobility but ends up doing donuts in benett's circle

[@justacatwithasadface2692]

Tbf, not a lot of characters use mobility in conjunction with their combat anyway. It's a big flaw in Genshin's combat design.

[@melonbread4269]

Her NA animations are sick too

[@PsychoticLulu]

@@justacatwithasadface2692 Clorinde goes brrrr but yea, it's quite sad

[@mikakagehira5714]

Ifa will be the one TRUST

[@gintobitim1611]

Genshin combat design is like it's either simple yet boring.. or when they tried to make it fun, it ended up clunky and annoying.

[@lazybvr9989]

43:15 Yet another archon that makes very niche characters - in this case Bennett, Xilonen and Furina - useful. Very cool indeed, can't wait to be forced to play dendro teams on the 2nd half anytime I pick Mauvika for the 1st.

[@lucifermorningstar8387]

I hate how genshin devs refuse to give us a 5 star bennett. It’ll let us play 2 atk scaling dps in the abyss. It’s like they are allergic to money

[@jiujiu-rb5gz]

but bennett is for chasca. can mihoyo create another bennet frreal we need two bennets

[@matthewsarson6934]

At least Furina buffed a lot of older characters like Noelle/Jean when she came out. Even if she is 'better' Mavuika is just another Pyro main DPS.

[@ladderlappen4585]

yep pretty boring kit indeed. but we do get 2 very interesting shielders at the same time so who cares.

[@JayDamaso78]

​@lucifermorningstar8387 you can still play 2 attack scaling dps in the Abyss, promise.

[@JFarenci]

DPR: Donuts Per Rotatiom

[@knicklichtjedi]

DPS = Damage per Spin

[@I.disagree]

Rotations per rotation

[@Apricot_418]

RPM: Rotations Per Mavuika

[@permastuned4066]

APM Abysses Per Mavuika

[@Rodolfo872]

Skipped all Natlan characters saving for Mavuika, now she needs them...

[@aciooica4469]

If you skipped all of them you should have enough primo for Mavuika + Citlali, no?

[@Silver-Arm]

Now you get her + Citlali instead of constelations

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

No one fights alone hahaaa

[@johns783]

if you get c1 she doesnt need them nearly as much. though xilonen was clearly going to be bis for literally anything, and especially natlan teams. citlali will be almost as good, if not better for her. good luck with whatever you choose, you'll be fine.

[@_mako]

rip bozo 🤣🫵

[@hydreigon2709]

I really hate that her playstyle is Charged attacks. It looks so dumb and is so unengaging to play.

[@th2112]

ITS ALWAYS XIANGLING

[@Icredivm]

As a 1.0 continues player, she feels pretty disappointing. Thinking about skipping her for Citlali, who enables more teams

[@nasipadang1da]

why not get both and get more team comp 😂

[@harshdhyani8721]

Use layla

[@ABC-yj6cy]

​@@nasipadang1dahe's probably low on primos

[@Kellexyz]

​@@nasipadang1dajust get all character am i right 😂

[@mayukhmondal5552]

I don't get the whole "citlali enables more" thing bcs she is only really a sizeable upgrade for Arlecchino Mavuika and gaming. Another major loophole i just don't get is, if people liked universal units so much why skip xilonen? From what I have seen a majority of pushback comes from people who skipped Xilonen

[@Benisbucker]

Hate the lack of F2P weapons for her if you missed out on event stuff

[@mickysaif]

claymore and polearm 4 stars usually suck ass for f2p

[@nguyentandung42]

@@mickysaifhey the catch exist, otherwise yeah it’s kinda bad.

[@s1imosha]

​@@nguyentandung42the catch came out three years ago...

[@nasipadang1da]

​​​@@s1imoshaand we can only get 1, for xl and noone else

[@nguyentandung42]

@@s1imosha ? Doesn’t mean you still can’t get it.

[@KategariYami]

14:21 "Mualani does more Pyro Damage than C6 Ayato" TRUE!

[@butter5144]

😒

[@rottenorange5238]

He called her Mualani more than once during the video lol

[@azix2915]

oh godlani

[@aventurussy]

honestly very disappointed with her kit the only new thing she offers is a restriction for her own burst lol, im very tempted to skip and get citlali instead, pyro is just so saturated and if you have arlecchino I don't really see a reason to pull for mavuika

[@jyusatsu]

Yeah just do it. I'm going for Citlali instead. I already have Arlecchino and Lyney for my pyro dps so if Mavuika doesn't offer that much as an off-fielder, it's not practical and economical to pull her. I might just pick her up on her rerun if there aren't any future characters I would pull.

[@WasaboDuckBoy]

yeah i really didnt expect this tbh. im an archon collector so ig im getting her eventually, but its so funny how im legit just gonna skip her for citlali aka the more interesting unit and less likely to be rerun sooner ideally i would get mavuika too, but they decided to break the chronicled wish rules just so they could put shenhe on it. so that's 2 characters im skipping mavuika for

[@Mateo_8886]

I don't like to doompost but imo this is one of the worst designed kits we've had so far, and it is suach a shame it was given to an archon

[@fats2010]

i really hate to be so negative but it's honestly crazy how disappointing she is for SO much of the playerbase. I think the one thing people desperately wanted was a universal pyro support so that they could finally use someone other than xiangling or bennett, and instead we got our third top tier pyro dps and she relies heavily on Natlan units in the team. It's pretty rare that I see this little positivity about a character, let alone an archon. At least Citlali seems fun enough though, she's sort of had the opposite effect where I've started liking her more and more as things have progressed

[@jiffonbuffo]

"for SO much of the playerbase" Are you sure about this? Coz the negativity that Chasca got didn't translate to actual sales as she ended up the second most owned C6 character in CN's previous Abyss data after Chiori.

[@thelordhu3200]

@@jiffonbuffo Where can i see this data?

[@morasiregar1052]

​@@jiffonbuffobs, Neuv, Yelan, Arle, and Mualani tops her.

[@masajus1]

@@jiffonbuffo "for SO much" he means 1% of 1% of meta slaves while rest 99% of player base dont give dam or is indifferent

[@lotticello]

​@@jiffonbuffo this argument is ridiculous because you're comparing c6 ownership of the players that have that character, not in total. If only 10 people pull for a character and 5 have them c6 the 50% will have them c6, but if 1000 pull for a character and 100 have them c6 the percentage will only be 10%. Why did you bring this up. What does it add to the conversation except that the character is owned by very few people /nm /genq

[@amelta2008]

Here before they fix "Muavika" Edit: I meant the typo in the title (it's fixed now), not the entire archon's kit lmao the replies are crazy

[@luminous3558]

She is very good with Maulani

[@leka2095]

(grabs ticket)

[@McNugge.]

Dangit, I'm too late!!😢😢

[@butter5144]

​@@luminous3558yup, im fucking fed up with xiangling ,, her c4 burst messes up my vv setup😡

[@saramegan2243]

it can't be fixed, because what disgusts me is the motorbike and the horrible animations, and this comes from someone who has a motorbike but the mere idea that I have to hit the enemies with the wheels... well, it disgusts me

[@FirlowXD]

"Where does that lead you?" Don't say it don't say it don't say it "Furina"

[@FirlowXD]

I have Furina and Xilonen it's just funny that we're at Bennet and Furina again

[@azix2915]

More like Bennett 😢 We're so tired of circle impact, what part of that the devs don't understand smh

[@moxigene]

coulda said Bennett and it's more accurate

[@MachigaMMO]

Hoyo systematically killed my interest in her: - Another on-field pyro - wants Bennett - Rides a motorcycle because reasons - Best damage by far involves using the bike - Reliant on regional characters rather than expand the regional flavor to other characters Can’t believe I don’t care about the Pyro Archon anymore.

[@zedo-vn]

reactions reliant pyro aswell

[@PaRaNiki_]

Man, the longer I watched, the less I want to pull her.

[@surreabel]

Imma try for c1 to increase her uptime and lesser the reliance on other Natlan units

[@lafeechloe6998]

@@surreabel Same

[@Sable813]

I didn't realize how meh she is as a strictly off field pyro sub dps. Xiangling is still very competitive...I don't care for another pyro dps so I was going to just strictly use her as an E bot. Now I'm not sure, maybe I skip and go for Citlali?

[@Ranamon9132]

@@surreabelI want that too but I also wanna get Citlali. I’ll guarantee both of em but I’m hoping to get lucky then maybe c1 mavuika and c0 Citlali. Knowing my luck tho, that won’t happen. I’m just so happy they’re on the same banner

[@user-lz4gb2pf7j]

If anything she makes me want to pull for Citlali so my other pyro dpses don't get powercrept

[@number-1-furina-fan]

hey I wanna thank you, zajef and editors, for recording and editing such a comprehensive video. I usually have trouble parsing out what exactly a kit means/what it does on a first read, so hearing someone explaining it is really helpful. I also appreciate the sections on team synergies and the weapon options. if you're planning on making citlali and lan yan analyses, I'm looking forward to them!

[@peterparker1262]

The fact that neither of the artifacts synergize with her perfectly makes me wonder if she was changed heavily pre beta or will we get a new artifact set for her.

[@lostblueboy]

funny you say that. we WERE supposed to get new sets in 5.3, but natlan broke a pattern ONCE again. If they really wanted to give her new artifact set, why do that?

[@hikaruichinose4476]

Possible, but then her weapon's CRIT tells you that obsidian is the one that we should use

[@AlwaysThirstys]

This is just telling em they are gonna release a new set for her in 6.x and she is then gonna improve even more.

[@shrimpflavoredchips9122]

Until now ive felt like every archon had a nice f2p weapon or 3 star weapon thats usable. The other archons kind of opened up possibilities for weaker or less used characters. I feel like mavuika needs premium weapon, premium or high demand supports. Disappointing, but at least skipping her i can pull citlali comfortably.

[@x0xNateRiverx0x]

I think natlan characters have been very underwhelming so far. The expectations for Mavuika to replace Xiangling squarely was something everyone kind of wanted rather than reliance on natlan characters (though lorewise somewhat accurate). Its a very likely skip for me.

[@Bliss467]

It’s hilarious how going into Fontaine, everyone was saying Bennett fell off and is potentially no longer top tier 😅

[@JojoDigitalArtist]

It was true...for like 10 seconds then right back to Bennett T_T

[@RKNancy]

That's the most irritating part about Mavuika being a bike DPS. I THOUGHT MY BENNETT WILL FINALLY RETIRE!

[@singhoda]

only neuvi and clorinde didn't use Ben rest of the Fontaine dps still had him in their best team

[@marklawoi7981]

But only Leyney and Arrchilno use him was there another Dps that use him beside​s those two? @@singhoda

[@AlwaysThirstys]

@@RKNancy I'm scared they are going to release a 5 star bennet and people are gonna be forced to pull them once every 6 months or struggle. It's like pulling for kazuha back in 1.6 even if you loved yoimiya and ended up missing her and later regretting it and quitting genshin due to hit and finally returning only to lose 50/50 again and then ended up needing to spend money. Seriously they don't need to release a massive powercrept to more supports and creating another situation where you need to pull a character with new flaws just fo ryou to ask for another improved version.

[@misko2952]

Of all the things I could spend an hour watching, I guess I'm doing this now.

[@mickysaif]

it's 2:30 am and i can't afford to sleep because this video dropped

[@zaneaulner4333]

​@@mickysaifWe almost share the same timezone, may I ask where you live?

[@razvyz8067]

​@@mickysaif...u could just watch the next day?

[@mickysaif]

@@zaneaulner4333 south india

[@mickysaif]

@@razvyz8067 I can't wait that long unfortunately kekw

[@Chronos445]

And so Bennet is still the pyro archon!

[@beastwithin7772]

Bennett is the Pyro Sovereign 🎉

[@CM_684]

Yup, and will most likely continue being the pyro archon if even the current pyro archon can't compare

[@ruby_roze0]

Bennett Bennett Bennett Bennett Bennett

[@KategariYami]

Seek help. Touch grass.

[@ooochoa]

@@ruby_roze0 Good evening and welcome.

[@mickysaif]

still the goat and the real pyro archon

[@The-hamster2471]

@@KategariYami I’m going to assume this is a bot because how do you get pressed over a name being said 5 times?!?

[@leka2095]

i read this to the tune of burnice i'm cooked aren't i

[@bryghian]

so she supports the team by killing everything? got it!

[@cleod7439]

She supports teams by not needing the onfielder to be onfield :D

[@linhang1573]

So it's like running hyperbloom with Eula 😂

[@vilfs]

so glad i can skip her comfortably. i hate her outfit (wtf is that zipper) and that goofy ass bike animations make it even worse. gonna try for arle's weapon so that i can get her scythe which def looks miles better. how did we end up from fontaine to this I'll never understand

[@thelordhu3200]

Very true. I am willing to build pyro traveler for my Mualani team than pulling for Mavuika.

[@sereia7995]

agree. I was willing to pull her bc I wanted to replace Ben 10 and his circle but looks like the true Pyro Archon wil not be replaced in the near future. I'll be pulling Arle instead since her animations and her design are top tier and not whatever the heck is going on with Mavuika

[@wolf-c9t]

Well noone is forcing you to play

[@vilfs]

@wolf-c9t me not being forced is literally why i'm skipping

[@jyusatsu]

Good luck! Hope I get lucky with Citlali and then have some gems left to pull Arle/Clorinde weapon banner, getting either is a win-win since I own both chars.

[@Swekyde]

It really sucks how much every attack scaler needs Bennett. Want to play Chasca and Mavuika on both sides at the same time? Fuck you I guess. Feels like you have to play Neuv Hyper or Hyperbloom (or maybe Aggravate/Spread) on the other side because those teams can't really use Bennett.

[@ryan-tabar]

They do it to make it more annoying to build teams for abyss.

[@AlwaysThirstys]

You don't need bennet, chasca can just use deyha ororon and layla. For muavika she can instead run kachina rosaria/keaya/xinqiu due to rainswords and then sucrose/diona etc. You never need to use him except for achieving optimal damage.

[@marcusvinicius917]

​@AlwaysThirstyswhy even play with an mid team? I could use amber Barbara kaeya, would be fun? Strong? NO

[@MonkE1711]

At this point idk if i wanna collect every archon. Like cmon man im tired of pyro on fielders

[@aggil661]

Im thinking of breaking that rule of mine too. Shes hardly better than Xiangling and my Arlecchino is more than capable. Little to no reason for me to pull her. Citlali prob brings more value to an account that already has a good pyro dps.

[@vladdyru]

I will never understand people's obsession with the idea of collecting every archon. Pulling for a worthless lore title instead of character design and gameplay is insane.

[@SoilworkWT]

Edit whole 1h video Misstype title Gj editor

[@snowragi]

time to watch yet another pre-release for a character i won't be pulling :D

[@0dorox0]

14:18 ah yes, the good old Clorinde Chevreuse Mualani core

[@matthewsarson6934]

With the amount of people dissapointed she wasn't a support/sub DPS and the people who just think the bike is dumb, i think we are going to see a suprising amount of people pull Citlali considering she is releasing with an Archon.

[@berenwelter8835]

I was gonna get Mavuika but now I’m gonna probably get Citlali instead

[@matthewsarson6934]

@@berenwelter8835 Yeah i was origionally saving on the assumption she would be a must pull support. Since she isn't, Citlali is cuter 😄

[@masajus1]

oh, you mean, insignificant portions of player base, cause rest of players don't care and want cool new characters. but be salty, yor Arle still usable, tho she droped in usage rates even below Hu Tao. RIP Bozo

[@Snowbell247]

I'm one of those players who don't like Mauvika and definitely not pulling her but I'm pretty sure when people see the showcase doing 1 trillion DMG they will pull and also Genshin whales pull anything blindly so that's that

[@tristanmanalo6252]

We all know Mavuika will still sell well. It is the same case with Zhongli, and when the Chinese community didn't like Zhongli -Hoyoverse buff him

[@azix2915]

Man I might as well save and pull for C2 Xilonen instead. Mavuika's so painfully underwhelming it's so sad.

[@marcusvinicius917]

I wanted her for my Mualani c1, but since she suks I planned to actually get Mualani c2 or Xilonen c2, WAAAAY better in my opinion, Sneznhaya is coming soon. Xilonen makes electro very fun, hydro, geo and cryo stronger and she enables so fkn much

[@PsychoticLulu]

honestly, i'm glad she isn't an off-field subdps, makes skipping her feel way better at this point - at least for my account - I am so fed up with on field damage dealers clears aren't remotely close enough for me for the extra MV's to matter so she's just another flavor of [insert onfield dps]

[@randomanimeartist]

Same here

[@PsychoticLulu]

@@randomanimeartist xiangling will get replaced one day, stay strong soldier

[@randomanimeartist]

@ oh god please not xiangling

[@trendmadegamer8725]

Honestly. If Mavuika kit was on someone that isn't pyro. I wouldn't feel as bad. Cause pyro way to saturated. I have no motivation to pull her when I already have Arle no matter if she does less DPS then the archon or not. They kinda Fumbled her tbh lol

[@randomanimeartist]

@ arlecchino is my favourite and I am going for c3 this banner

[@soldier_4th_class]

Spilled my coffee when I hear the BMX team name. I like it 😂

[@dandazed5846]

It’s so perfect 😭

[@Kicksrockskids]

When those combos of lectors or heralds return on abyss, xiangling will still be preferred.

[@FirstLast-qq9zh]

Feels like a lotta Mavuika support teams boil down to: it’s good buttttt you could just swap out the carry for a support, then stay on Mavuika and do more dmg

[@darksplash873]

I clicked on this but for some reason the chasca prerelease started playing and I scrolled through 10 comments before reading something about faruzan and realised I’m on the wrong video huh

[@studiesinflux1304]

56:26 it would be interesting to see if we can make more teams designed as dual carry that have characters use half the buff uptime rather than main + support. The game already had some of this like Tighnari + Yae Miko, so Mavuika could enable more of this type of team.

[@leiah6514]

The problem is most DPS have basically zero utility outside of being on field. Natlan kind of fixed this with cider city and on/off field modes, but most teams rely on consistent reactions and multipliers. Tighnari and Yae work because they are both front-loaded in damage with a reaction that continues without a lot of both auras, but the only 2 reactions like that are quicken and burning and virtually no other DPS front-loads without hydro or pyro.

[@kokocute123]

Mavuika finally frees the real pyro archon for the other Abyss team.

[@nguyentandung42]

NOT

[@michapiasta3072]

@@kokocute123 she isnt Bennet replacment.

[@istr4wberry]

​@@michapiasta3072She's talking about Xiangling.

[@Guttins]

I can't take it anymore.

[@jyusatsu]

There are 2 pyro archon and she only can get rid of one not both lol

[@Bliss467]

Kinich and xiangling feel made for one another. It feels so fucking good to spin around an enemy counterclockwise on him while her burst is spinning the other direction.

[@wideozludrawz]

editors putting in WORK love the editing at the start alrdy

[@TheScavv]

Understanding the kits of new characters is more difficult than any of the actual gameplay content in Genshin.

[@itsKevix]

so basically, Xiangling still on top true pyro archon

[@mickysaif]

more like it's bennett because xiangling can atleast be replaced by mavuika in many teams but bennett is the goat atk buffer

[@Rey_3293]

XL is probably goat for old players, who have her with broken emblem, c4+ and understand ER funneling. I have been playing for a year. even have the catch but still can't understand the hype of XL. mine is c2 also so maybe that.

[@butter5144]

At least xiangling is bettet than that fucking circle impact

[@ly.radiata]

​@@Rey_3293She can apply pyro every second in AoE , also she can deal really good dmg in AoE which always follows you. Especially in the past there were not many options for off field dmg dealer. However nowadays we have a lot of options for dmg for it so it is normal for you to not realise her hype. But still she is the best pyro applier.

[@Ranamon9132]

@@Rey_3293I mean she does real good damage but her main selling point is her unbelievably quick pyro application and no icd.

[@shrimp9618]

OPPA iTS ALWAYS BENNET

[@Dabeast1911Que]

42:15 Really big miss here is that you can literally just use the pryo mc who is going to be pretty dang good as a support and is free for literally everyone. So literally every single player will have a free Natlan unit when they get far enough in the story. This is full stop, going to eliminate the notion that she can't be used in a regular rotation. This can't be under stated.

[@cleod7439]

The pyro mc is extremely bad. He is literally a scroll set bot in mavuika teams (the team would work, but it would be like when we use to run sucrose to give energy to xiao)

[@Dabeast1911Que]

@cleod7439 they are not bad. They would be a solid support option if someone doesn't have natlan units and even give some good support outside of the set with C1. If you are a ftp player with no natlan units they will be great. Not everything has to be top tier limited five star level. They will be better than any of the other 4 stars we've gotten so far and a great battery for Mavuika. Mono pryo with them and kazuha will work wonders and clear abyss no problem and make sure Mavuika can burst every rotation.

[@nigradia]

@@cleod7439 And what's difference from kachina LOL Like putting kachina in a team vs pyro mc. Just think about it. He mentioned kachina but not even pyro mc. This is laughable.

[@josebaltoomarnilson4762]

​@@cleod7439pmc gives 15% buff and decent pyro app, he can actually make mualani vape by himself, for example. He's also the best burgeon trigger in the game, zajef just kinda doesnt like the mc so he wont review them, unfortunately.

[@Dabeast1911Que]

@@nigradia literally all I was saying. Even vs the other natlan 4 stars, pryo MC is still very good to battery Mavikua. Literally my whole point. So by that alone, he has good value for anyone without othe Natlan units.

[@azix2915]

BMX is so creative lmfao. You always cook the best terms in Genshin meta 😅

[@maxwellstylez]

great video thank you

[@Apricot_418]

Even the Mavuika pre-release feels longer than the 5.2 interlude quest frfr

[@dellmix16]

words cannot express how much I hate this gameplay... how do they give us this after the capitano cutscene fight?! this is ubertrash... worst archon

[@pinneqple_5060]

Most skippable archon after Venti lol, saving for Snejnaya characters cus natlan was a disappointment for me. So sad we have this after amazing fontaine characters/story

[@berenwelter8835]

Agree

[@matthewsarson6934]

Yeah if they were going to go this direction with her then they should not have released Arlecchino. Now she is just so unnecessary, i dont know anyone who does not own a Pyro main DPS at this point. I got 3 already

[@masajus1]

@@matthewsarson6934 Arle is unnecessary, got shafted in 6monts, RIP Arle mains, feel Hu Tao mains pain bozos :DDDD

[@matthewsarson6934]

@@masajus1 I guess Hu Tao won in that regard she was the best DPS for years.

[@michapiasta3072]

@@masajus1 Funnily enough Arle is better character, you are getting max 10% increase over her if you take away all the good supports for only her. If you have Arle just go for Citiali.

[@vishalattri744]

So support Mavika is a myth. 😡 Giving no new teams , just more prsnl dmg. Not archon worthy. Just another pyro dps fish, in the sea of pyro.

[@austinwirtz2434]

She needs the real pyro archon Bennett to carry her anyway. Also the bike is such a letdown after her cutscene fighting capitano

[@berenwelter8835]

@@austinwirtz2434this is my biggest complaint. I think the bike looks stupid

[@matthewsarson6934]

It would be less annoying if Arlecchino had not been so recent. Why the hell can't we just get some damn Pyro support characters (we don't talk about Dehya)

[@austinwirtz2434]

@@berenwelter8835 yeah it looks bad and out of place. Not only in combat but flying on it… She was so cool in the cut scene with Kinich’s claymore and then hitting capitano with the flaming punch that I can’t help but be disappointed.

[@masajus1]

@@austinwirtz2434 RIP Arle, she will not be missed. RIP Bozo

[@markusbrendon]

I guess we can say that bennet is the true archon

[@Eeveetrix0908]

The problem with the Mavuika - Codex combo is her on-field and off-field flexibility... Ideally, you'd only build her up to 60% crit rate before the 4-pc set effect... That's when you use her as an on-field dps... However, if you want to use her off-field, you're left with 60% crit rate which as q sub-dps, that's low... Yeah ofc you have the option to change her artifacts for that... I only wish they could have added a feature on her claymore that if the wearer is off-field, the crit damage buff becomes crit rate with halved value... In that way, while off-field, she could have 77.5% crit rate without worrying it will overcap when she goes on-field... Or maybe gave her a passive that converts excessive crit rate to crit damage with a ratio of 1:2... That's more simple and effective cause you can freely use all your codex artifacts that rolled into crit rate...

[@Grizzley639]

My only Natlan characters are Ororon and Kachina, so I'm not pulling for Mavuika. Idk but Natlan characters doesn't really pique my interest. The only time I pulled for a Natlan character was Xilonen but i unfortunately lost, but if she reran she's gonna be my only limited 5 star from Natlan

[@themaladaptiveotter]

Why didn’t they design her kit with more off field incentives?? 😭 She could’ve been a bennet alternative too y’know. The devs could’ve designed her kit as a sidegrade for bennet by default, but also add an extra mechanic where the buffing encourages characters to move around the area instead of being stuck in one place like in bennet’s circle. The more the character moves around (as is the case for Natlan chars), the better the buffs get. So if you’re using Natlan chars, you get way more mileage, but still be equal to bennet for setups using characters who don’t move around that much (like Arle, Wrio, Navia etc). Honestly, I’m disappointed I couldn’t enjoy a more powerful off field version of her that feels like the support from an archon. It’s too early to say I know, and regardless I’ll be pulling, but I guess I just expected more from her? ☹️

[@AlwaysThirstys]

I wanted her to provide seomthing special as a buff/debuff like either using elemental reactions to generate stacks to buff characters such as their level. Ex each elemental reaction trigger gives 1 stack and each stack is extra 2 levels capping at 20 for both weapons and characters upon usage of burst this lasts for 35 seconds. While this might be difficult to code, not only is it a pseudo def shred but it's a sub stat, hp, and attack boost which is massive QOL. The concept stays true to the cinder city set of triggering reactions but it also buffs things such as burgeon/reaction teams, giving a massive boost the kinich chasca and other teams while not making mualani neuv and arlecchino that much stronger due to lack of reactions even if hp scales better with level due to weapons. Finally this buffs def scaling/geo characters the most due to the fact that they are often hydrid scaling meaning they benifit form both weapons and also levels more. I would keep the dps form the same except with some nerfs but this would massively change how genshin would be played and make muavika one of the msot unique characters ever.

[@luizaugustorosa1141]

Tbh, I could easily spend another hour listening to Zajef xD

[@ravissary79]

So shes cool... but unlike the last 3 archons, is highly niche and isn't very compatible with very much.

[@StanTheWoz]

I've gotten over some of my disappointment that she's ANOTHER on field pyro carry, looks fun at least. Looking forward to the Navia dual carry team especially

[@felixstep2066]

Welp, i dont have Xilonen, so, she is gonna be Way worst than normal. I get it, she is so good even without Citlali and Xilonen, but not getting pretty much her highest potential at all its something i dont like. I guess the 50/50 loss is not gonna feel as bad and will save it until i get Xilonen

[@matthewsarson6934]

Xilonen will probably get a rerun during the later Natlan patches since she is so strong/had decent sales. And she isn't Cryo lol

[@meikkuikamuzu5869]

Citlali will prob go in cryo basement after the banner, so I’d grab her

[@agrimes1151]

34:26 Somewhere Zyox screamed "VERMILLION!" as he heard this

[@Beard789]

AAAAAND ANOTHER PYRO DPS 🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@defiantmars9910]

Dang… I took a break for quite a while so I missed the Mailed Flower and Xilonen. I can’t resist doing donuts on enemies, so looks like I’ll have to cobble together a build and a team 😅 Guess I’ll just aim to get her first and to work towards an upgrade afterwards.

[@PsychoticLulu]

@@defiantmars9910 Xilonen *should* have a rerun in a 5.x patch at some point my guess - and that is nothing but a guess - would be 5.7 or 5.8 right before we're getting a new region though it might be earlier unless they're going to have her be another Kazuha release situation and not rerun her forever

[@lorraineviruet8973]

I made sure I had an hour to watch this. It’s 3am. I go to work at 5am. This better be worth it because I need to know everything or I ain’t pulling her!

[@dalimelki2971]

for me i was not planning to pull cause i already have neuvillette and arlecchino and let be real mavuika is a selfish character cause she will take Bennett and furina from both my main teams which is BAD.. on top of that with the new info that skirk will be playable aint no way im pulling for anything

[@silverplayer7502]

Just like how you can play neuv hyperbloom and be good, I doubt that she would NEED bennett AND furina to be strong, maybe one of the two will suffice. Also there's only a need for two teams so you have furina+ neuv, then bennettt for mav or xilonen for mav

[@DiamondCityLights]

she doesnt need them…lol

[@ellosteve]

YIPPEEEE ZAJEF VID

[@buechertz]

Inferno Rider

[@nickh4354]

Most of the hour is just reading her skill descriptions

[@chanchaiken5522]

I mean it's us reading it ourselves versus Zajeff doing it for us like a lullaby

[@radorei]

The A1 passive uptime is dependent on how many Natlan characters you have in the team. Only Mavuika gives 55%, 2 characters give 83%, and 3 characters give 100%

[@Bliss467]

Navia has always waited for another swap dps on her level to become goated

[@davidcarba7829]

Vape speen, melt speen, overload speen, mono speen (natlan flavored overload edition). What an archon. Some people are "dissapointed" by the bike, I'm dissapointed that the only thing too look forward is more natlan supports that make her better (as if she'd need that) ... and the "new" teams where she'll play the same role: *speeeen*. Her complexity starts and ends at "no energy only nightsoul" PepeW kit.

[@satan9247]

I've legit not been this dissapointed over an Archon release ever

[@WomboChombo]

Of course Mavuika’s best team core BMR uses the pyro archon Bennett.

[@Macepanda_]

52:08 Okay I'm now convinced that they just hate Kinich lmao

[@GamersGod009]

Absolute Cinema Quite literally 🙂

[@kufubikamishira]

minor spelling mistake

[@theneighborskid.]

pyro raiden that’s abit racist if you don’t have natlan 5* supports

[@AlwaysThirstys]

Makes sense due to her being so white that you can't even see the glowing markings on her body. (Just like back in the 1800s)

[@MrHav1k]

I want to comment on your comment at around the 42 minute mark where you say she'll be able to one rotate a good amount of the content.... While that's very true, I think what Hoyo will do is they'll see so many people pull her and then they'll just do what they do and increase the difficulty/HP of the abyss again to compensate lol

[@hyeongpinkz]

i understand the whole “mavuika does so much damage its better to just stay on her” but that is not what people mean when they ask “does she work with this carry”. i get that you’re trying to communicate how strong mavuika is but i honestly don’t see the value in saying “u might as well just spin on her” for any carry besides MAYBE navia, it just comes off as unhelpful and a pointless portion of the video

[@cleod7439]

Is cause mavuika is not an special upgrade in comparison to xiangling for most dps, that's the problem. Play mavuika as an off field dps, is like playing navia as an off field dps, the character is pretty bad in that scenario. Example: - does she works with kinich? Yes (but play xiangling + furina would be already better if don't use mavuika on field) -does she works with mualani? Yes (but play xiangling + furina would be already better) - Does she works with neuvillette? Yes (but it will be worse than literally anything else if dont use her on field). That's the problem, the character is not made to be used off field, is a onfield dps.

[@hyeongpinkz]

@ mualani is absolutely not better with xiangling, not only does mavuika outdps her zaj literally explained that xiangling is only beter in furina teams which isn’t even a popular team comp to begin with nor is it particularly better than the alternatives she’s a character made to function as an off fielder for many teams without being a complete xiangling powercreep, she’s very much like furina in that regard since they both have slower elemental application that’s still more than enough in many teams, it’s just that her c1 is a significant improvement for her flexibility as an off field unit since it removes the need for another natlan character and xiangling feels like ass to play with kinich lmfao

[@vilfs]

i mean i think it's a fair take considering you need 180 pulls to guarantee her (even more if you're pulling xilonen/citlali) while xl is free and can be bought from the shop

[@AlwaysThirstys]

Navia works really well as a sub dps, 300k+ shots every 10 seconds is 30k dps and might be kinda fun ngl.

[@Virisuto]

I really appreciate this man

[@keteousubu8167]

Not sure if i agree about mavuika not being a sizeable buff to kinich, when his dps almost reach 100k with mavuika with a half uptime cinder

[@morasiregar1052]

Idk if I even need Mavuika, my Kinnich hits 130k-ish in a team consisting of Dehya, Emilie, Kinnich, and Thoma. With Bennett it can go much more.

[@cleod7439]

Cause already his best team already use xiangling + furina. Mavuika is just an straight increase to the teams that use Emilie and bennet, with mavuika instead of xiangling as the last slot .

[@keteousubu8167]

@@cleod7439 xiangling+furina is only better if the Emilie variant only do 4 skills, but if you do 5 skills which is really easy to do with burning it's just straight up better than the furina version

[@nanathedelta8561]

I dont know how to feel about this. I really like her as a character (plus, I've been a huge fan of DMC series since forever, so seeing her with Dante's Cavaliere moveset fills my dark soul with light) but at the same time, I legit hate her design, both aesthetic and gameplay wise, so much. like... what's with the damn zipper ? It made no sense whatsoever. why does she has zipper at her nip and between her crotch? literally full on coomer design lmao. I have no problem with the bike. I think its alright even if it doesn't fit Genshin's setting. and great ! another on-field pyro DPS. listen, there's nothing wrong with a character being an on-field DPS but can we have something new for pyro DPS for once ? I dont know, maybe a burgeon support where she made burgeon stronger like how Nilou made bloom stronger ? maybe a full-on off-field DPS like Xiangling but trice her damage so we can have more option ? its almost 2025 already and my team still fight over freaking OPPA Xiangling, ffs. I already hate Natlan in term of gameplay design. with their "tribal" bullshit, force you to pull for a new character if you want them to work at their best. I get it, its a gacha game but jfc, when it will ever be enough for them ? (ofc, its never enough) and I'm so tired and sick of this greedy crap. sure, some of you may argue that, in order for Hoyo to make something new, they have to start at somewhere, just like Nilou ! well.. except that forward melt ain't new. so why not just make her works best with Kaeya/Rosaria ? why it has to be Citlali, who happen to be a new freaking character in the same patch with her, who literally has a myriad of buff compared to other option ? if you think the different between Nilou without Nahida vs Nilou with Nahida is big. wait until you see the difference between BMX with Citlali and BMX without her.

[@matthewsarson6934]

Yeah situation feels VERY similar to Nilou. She is running right next to Citlali and just like Nilou she has no good F2P weapon options at least if people didn't get the event weapons. Baiting people to go weapon banner as well. Its a dick move, honestly it would be smarter for people to get Citlali first given Hoyo's record of not rerunning Cryo characters.

[@nanathedelta8561]

@ It is also a constellation bait since both Mavuika and Citlali have a very strong constellation. Citlali’s C2 is literally a powercreep constellation. Kazuha’s C2 only gives 200 EM. then you look at Citlali, who gives 250 EM and on top of that, 20% more shed. C2 Citlali : 48% ATK (TTDS), 40% DMG (Cinder), 40% Pyro shed, 250 EM and a big ass shield. like.. bruh, C0 Citlali is a massive upgrade to Mavuika already. See what I mean ? what does Rosaria and Kaeya does that help pyro DPS in forward melt team ? nothing. if you don’t pull for Citlali, you will see a massive different in power. sure, you can play Mavuika with Furina but less front-loaded (it will clear, of course) and you lose Furina for 2nd team. not to mention, Citlali also give fighting spirit to Mavuika and allows Xilonen to use 4pc Petra for extra 40% DMG buff.

[@voii0777]

nice schizo rambling bro

[@AlwaysThirstys]

at c0 citlali is just a cyro zhongli that is mroe niche but natlan.

[@Sociopastor]

“How’s that for road rash?” - Dante whilst obtaining Cavaliere

[@proles8]

She was doomed to disappoint from the start. Meta community wants to have variance outside of Xiangling and Bennett, and casual community wants there to finally be a dps archon

[@jothamdockie5172]

Bennett again! And XL is still better as off-fielder? Oh no Mavuika 😱. I cant see myself skipping an archon for the first time

[@Notmyname423]

I refuse to use Bennett. Refuse.

[@AlwaysThirstys]

Don't, no character is dependent on him besides another 4 star called xiangling.

[@imnotatsun]

Citlali pre-release analysis when

[@malhardighe1509]

W thumbnail

[@dxveyeoh]

absolute cinema

[@lolsike9554]

personally I hate mauvika' s gameplay. I hate damn near all the Natlan character's gameplay because it doesn't fit the theme of Genshin as a whole. The only character from Natlan that I can give a pass to is Mualani because it somewhat makes sense and isn't as ridiculous as a flying gun in an area where everything is thought to be "tribal" and "war".

[@tabletennisstars1227]

it's not like they promised some certain gameplay. genshin is a fantasy world, did you expect characters throwing spears and stones as "tribal" gameplay?

[@lolsike9554]

I don't think I explained what I mean properly. Using Fontaine as an example, the environment is incorporated into the character's as a whole (like the mechs n stuff) and NPC's in Fontaine are seen somewhat interacting with the mechs and acknowledging their existence whereas Natlan which is centered around being a tribal focused nation and a nation of war uses all these "advanced" technology but we don't see this tech being used anywhere else except for the limited characters. We didn't even see glimpses of it with the common folk. It makes Natlan seem shallow.

[@jackjohnson8305]

So glad i don't care about all that lore stuff, if its fun and cool then im all for it.

[@pyronado4320]

Just waiting till they add some guy peeking out of toilet because we already have more bizzare stuff so it's not going to be out of place

[@JayDamaso78]

Its not a real world. Theyre cartoon characters. Natlan characters are insanely fun. Youre missing out for no reason.

[@Darkneonflame13]

I’m honestly glad I got Redhorn as it’s just been a reliable stat stick

[@astyutechick7980]

I'm actually more looking forward for the Citlali pre-release. Would like a shield comparison with Zhongli, Layla and Thoma at different cons. I wanna play melt Ganyu teams and Yoimiya teams. So I was considering a Zhongli attempt, but if Citlali is gonna do the job then I'd rather pull her instead

[@mickysaif]

her shield strength is actually pretty weak it's weaker than layla and citlali does nothing for ganyu because she only shreds pyro and hydro res so if you want to make your ganyu better then get zhongli instead

[@astyutechick7980]

@mickysaif oh. Yeah that's exactly why I was waiting for her pre release. Tbh I'll still wait for it to see what zacheff has to say about is anyways before actually all inning for Zhongli

[@vishalattri744]

@@astyutechick7980 If shield size doesn't matter to u, Just use full em Xilonen.

[@matthewsarson6934]

It's weird that she does not shread Cryo, almost like Hoyo are determined to make sure the element stays dead until Snezhnaya

[@AlwaysThirstys]

@@vishalattri744 kachina better due to offeild damage.

[@sirram_e]

basically freeze melt mauv wont work for the same reason that freezemelt hutao doesn't work.. the attack triggers shatter first instead kf melt

[@dndjdsksksn]

Does that happen to Hu Tao CAs? I thought that only happened to claymore characters

[@SharfKnows]

TTDS neuvilette has never been so good before also can i just say the bike just looks awesome

[@mikrikbe]

59:06 mono pyro as a support - Wouldn't Lyney be fine staying on-field with her being off-field?

[@alanparmar2797]

You need to be close enough for your off field ring(tap e) to apply def shred and deal dmg, which is harder for bow users

[@marijanusic1]

I see so many people saying that Citlali is a must for Mavuika, but following a Hoyoverse trend, the best support for any character actually comes in the future.

[@meikkuikamuzu5869]

Mabye but skipping Citlali might be bad cuz she will probably go in cryo basement 🤡

[@dgows4666]

I'll hope one day we get some kind of a Pyro Yae.