The Queen Breaks The News To Margaret | The Crown (Claire Foy, Vanessa Kirby)

My dears, as per the plan, Margaret (Vanessa Kirby) and Peter (Ben Miles) were to spend their two-year waiting period in separate countries to downplay their affair, but it unexpectedly makes front-page news, resulting in a tearful confrontation with Elizabeth (Claire Foy).
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[@MovingPicsOfficial]

My dears, this is how Margaret seeks the Queen's permission to marry Peter during dinner: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3WmaIyBg6x4aqs

[@lseward21]

Keep in mind that: -Elizabeth’s family blamed her uncle’s abdication on her father’s early death (vs the cigarettes!) and she was ingrained with the importance of following protocols and rules - including religious rules. At this time, divorce was not accepted as it is today. -2 Queen Elizabeth was still young and learning the ropes. Her advisers were likely effective at guiding/manipulating her -3 This a movie! We really don’t know what people said in private conversations (unless books are written that reveal accurate info) -4 Lastly, Margaret could have waited and she could have given up royal status. There is a lot that is public knowledge of “wild” behaviors etc. But the show is great: wonderful acting and script - and gives us lots to think about. What would we do to marry the person we loved?

[@solarprogeny6736]

well it's a show, not a movie

[@JimMac23]

In reality, Margaret could have married Peter if she agreed to give up he royal privileges. She chose to keep her privileges and broke up with Peter.

[@MsJubjubbird]

The reality was she had to give up her place in the succession only. She wasn't going to be queen anyway. She just didn't want to marry him

[@lekis5975]

​@@MsJubjubbirdPeter wasxa dubious man. He was 32 years and MARRIED when he started running around with 16 year old Margaret. The woman he went in to marry, was 20 years old to his 45 yrs...he was already messing with her when she was 17 years.

[@mustafajilani6830]

Yes those times were different compared to 80s and 90s and 2000s. So queen behaved accordingly with the time because that's what she knew.

[@donovan.1995.palmer]

I strongly believe that if King George had not died so young. He would have allowed Peter and Margaret to marry and no one would have questioned it but because Elizabeth was young and a woman they saw her as weak and Malleable able to bend her to their whims

[@marywenzel3199]

It’s possible that King George might have granted the wish of his “Joy”..but not a given. Elizabeth’s father was also a Constitutional stickler-QEII Got that as much from him and from her grandmother Queen Mary as she did from her advisors. I believe this truly was a matter of conscience for her, but there’s no way that she could’ve predicted that the marriages of three of her four kids would fall apart and this issue would crop up again. The King relied a great deal on Peter, But Townsend’s relationship with the King’s younger daughter might have been viewed as a betrayal of trust. It wasn’t just that an older man fell in love with the boss’s daughter or that PT was a commoner. He met Margaret when she was 14 and he was a 32-year-old married father. There is some question about when their romantic relationship began and it’s quite possible that Townsend was having physical contact with Margaret well he was still married and she was underage. Townsend was hustled out of Margaret’s orbit and posted to Brussels immediately after their relationship became public. Maybe Margaret’s elders feud him as a corrupting influence. I certainly find cause for reservations about his character and his motivations for having romantic designs on Margaret. But had the king lived to make this decision, you are right that the marriage in Scotland probably would’ve been allowed to take place. The question that remains is whether the king would have really gone for it. He had even more reason to be protective of Margaret then her sister had. But the king liked Peter very much so who knows.

[@sweettea6706]

Highly doubtful. In the 1950s, divorce was looked down upon. It was taboo. When I was a teen in the late 70s, it was still not fully accepted. King George wouldn't have wanted that for his "joy".

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

I strongly doubt it. I mean, look at the front that the RF made about Edward with Wallis Simpson. The story told to the public was that he was forced to resign because he was marrying a divorcee, but imagine the talk when George allowed his daughter to marry a man she had an affair with when he was still married.

[@lekis5975]

​@@marywenzel3199 Well said, however Margaret was 16 years to his 32 years, and he was married. The woman he went on to marry was 20 yrs old, to his 45 years!! He was already voicing his feelings for her when she was 17 years. The man had a type, and ged be in jail today..

[@feliciatierney2265]

​@@xxwhispersxx2856While your point is valid the argument could be made that Edward was set to be King therefore a divorcee could not be tolerated. By the time Margaret wanted to marry PT Elizabeth was Queen and Charles and Anne had been born so there was no real chance that Margaret would ever be Queen.

[@libriansana8562]

This is extremely brutal... If you are to say NO... Just say it... Don't prolong it painfully...

[@connierichards9121]

Margaret paved the way for the next generation.

[@carriew5106]

My parents were divorced in the early 90's and there was only one other family in the whole school who also had parents who were divorced. It was very rare for a long time, unless you had the money to pay for lawyers and settlements.

[@awill3992]

I wonder if the Queen ever had any regrets with how strict she was with her sister considering how much a disappointment her sons the cheater & the perv were with their behavior. Was hurting her sister really worth it? Yes yes I know there were rules and I feel as though she bent the rules for the wrong family members.

[@lynnlytton8244]

She may have decided to go easier on Charles because she regretted not going easier on Margaret.

[@bogdancristea9270]

Most likely she had no regrets because she wasn't aware of the real harm she had inflicted upon her sister: she just thought she had done her duty without the slightest care for her own family. There would have been ways of circumventing those silly rules nobody but the most conservative courtiers and advisors cared about, but she chose not to bother the establishment and sacrifice her sister for her own peace. On the other hand, she was young and very insecure, and the lack of a proper academic education left her vulnerable in front of all those grey-haired Eton and Oxford educated men.

[@tarawrr20]

It’s a shame because I feel like Elizabeth through her reign made the expectations for the wrong people, as you said, and the right people were denied. The suffering it caused hurt Elizabeth’s reign at different points.

[@markmccormack1796]

No rules for Andrew...

[@bricktam]

Close sources said that she deeply regretted not supporting Margaret and the aftermath of it, which is the main reason she allowed Harry to marry Meghan, who was divorce and allow them to exit.

[@mefw]

Strange when you think of it , COE refusing to let her marry, that bloody church was Created out of Divorce

[@rr7firefly]

Yes, you bring up a good point and very cleverly. Henry VIII was a rascal, a fine person to be the founder of that Anglican Church.

[@oh-home-girl7998]

The Queen was taken back by Peter's popularity during the Scotland trip with her. I think that sealed the deal. I'm sure the Queen knew it wasn't going to happen and maybe felt the separation would drive them apart without her having to tell her know.

[@cserd8734]

I can never figure out why the family was so against Prince Phillip, he had more Royal blood in him than the Queen herself. His Mother was the Great Granddaughter of Queen Victoria (she was born at Windsor castle) her Aunt and uncle were the Emperor and Empress of Russia. Phillips grandfather was the King of Denmark and his uncle the King of Greece.. I have to say that’s a pretty good linage if you ask me..

[@Anna-hn1qw]

Well, I think the fact that his sisters were married to German noblemen with Nazi affiliations had something to do with that. And he had no money or good manners (in their eyes).

[@KCtheGreatest]

He didn’t have money, he was born on a table, he wasn’t Church of England, his mother was Hessian (and mentally ill) , and his sisters married Nazis.

[@welshwitch2126]

Because his family was exiled. He was a prince with no country. His father was accused of treason, his mother had been committed to a mental institution, his aunt and uncle were deposed and horribly executed, and his sisters had married Germans who became Nazis. That’s a lot of scandal for one family, whether right or wrong. I’m sure they’d have rather had her marry a man from a “proper aristocratic family”. Turns out they were wrong and Elizabeth was right.

[@peanutbutterbruv]

His family fell. Thats why.

[@drmachinewerke1]

And to Americans he was nothing but just another man .

[@LisaBeeman-u5u]

I think Margaret really loved him. She spiraled after that romance. Who knows what her life and love would have been like had she been able to marry her true love. Kind of sad.

[@valerierodger]

She could have married him, she chose not to. She wouldn’t have been the first royal in her family to marry someone who was divorced. Unlike her uncle who abdicated the throne to be with to marry the woman he loved, she did not wish to give up her royal status.

[@jaimiesalid3141]

Not so sure. She was flighty.

[@jonathaneugene2582]

Keep it coming with the crown videos.please

[@Linda356]

I hope the Crown will come out on Blu-ray cause I did not have Netflix

[@imanali9981]

You can watch it on 9movies 😉

[@sadjaxx]

I would never have forgiven her. Never.

[@RoseRedd-k4b]

This makes me so sad, everytime I see the scenes between Peter and Margaret, I think of my own heartbreak and how I will never recover. What kind of a sister does that?

[@valerierodger]

A queen

[@jaimiesalid3141]

She was the queen, had no choice. Margaret refuses to grow up.

[@thebernice6062]

It's hard to know what really happened, but considering his divorced status and the Queen's role as head of the Church of England, I'm inclined to believe the UK government and Royal courtiers likely did sabotage the relationship. The same people didn't stop a marriage to Anthony Jones despite his proclivities, he wasn't divorced and, therefore, met the requirements.

[@kerrijohnstone7588]

I wonder IF what happened with Margaret and Peter changed her forever. And also how, or if, when the Queen started allowing everyone to divorce (Charles and Diana for a start) - left, right and centre, how BITTER Margaret would have felt…just a thought…

[@Alma-q6m]

This is heart breaking. But, it's the best formula known to man kind, to give the subjects the highest standard of life. Constitutional monarchy. Meaning, the power is with parliament. Life is much better under constitutional monarchies.

[@hera7884]

And then she made her wait again. Another 6 months

[@rr7firefly]

Sheer torture. Good thing Margaret wasn't carrying a handgun in her purse.

[@kerrijohnstone7588]

Even if Edward had of remained on the throne Elizabeth STILL would have been Queen only much later, as he and Wallis Simpson never had children so, the throne would have reverted to her anyway.

[@nettyperez7611]

I got the DVDs up to Season 5. Margaret was fabulous or is it Helena the wonderful one? Anyway, the King is as AH as the real one… A DIVORCED King married to a DIVORCED woman. No need to abdicate… or just like Henry VIII… the wife is dead…so he can re-marry?

[@reginadoggett9921]

True, but Camilla still had a living husband, and according to the Church of England she couldn't remarry him in their faith. However, as the senior royal whose opinion mattered the most, which Charles being the next in line, the late Queen gave her approval in 2005. Eventually, she allowed Camilla to have status to become the future queen consort.

[@paulgraham3012]

You do know the General Synod changed the rules 5 years before they married due to huge increase in divorce in Britain (42% : in the US and Australia 50%)or alienate vast numbers. Your bigotry is showing and it is not a good look​@@reginadoggett9921

[@hlwhhlwh2351]

@@reginadoggett9921 but they did not marry in a church but a registry office. They had a service of blessing.

[@rr7firefly]

Wait a gosh darn minute! What happened after they kissed?

[@periphron]

It's hard to feel sorry for an adulteress.

[@branflakes12341]

Feel sorry for both of them to be honest, the queen was deliberately kept in the dark. But on the other hand I feel sorry for margaret because of Elizabeth's jealousy she betrayed margaret and sent Peter early.

[@sugarkane4830]

Why was Elizabeth jealous of Margaret?

[@JimMac23]

@@sugarkane4830 She wasn't jealous. She just let Margaret know that under the law a royal princess couldn't marry a divorced man.

[@valerierodger]

Elizabeth was not jealous, nor did she betray Margaret In reality, Margaret could have married Townsend if she was willing to give up her royal status. Elizabeth worked with the Prime Minister to come up with a plan in which Margaret would’ve been able to marry Townsend without losing her royal status, Margaret still chose to end the relationship

[@just-tess]

well if it's not that subjugated colony it's this subjugated colony, what a life...

[@craighanson-rc1md]

2 years is nothing be it a exile a posting or whatever if it's meant to be & she clearly knew deep that in reality it wasn't real & it was just her childish selfish need for attention at her family especially her sister. Much like lil toddler harry today.

[@jaimiesalid3141]

I agree completely.

[@MaureenSmith-d6u]

Margaret should have been allowed to marry Peter Townshend. Look at what Henry brought into the rf ,biggest mistake ever.

[@BlastFromThePastTheGoodOldDays]

she was allowed to marry him, she was given a choice love or duty- she chose duty. she chose not to wait and not to marry him. she could marry him but her and any children she produced with him would not be in line for the throne they would still be able to attend family functions and would still be family. but would not be working royals doing royal duties

[@ep5019]

I get the feeling that Elizabeth actually hated Margret

[@jaimiesalid3141]

Margaret was a jealous little cat. I have no sympathy for her. Whining, whining just like Harry the brat

[@lekis5975]

Elizabeth was carmean and catty but the press protected her. She hated Margaret because their father favoured her. She emasculated Phillip, hated Diana because she was more popular than all of them combined. Did a poor job of raising her children and was a poor judge of character; Sophie (the pictures of her sat in Tarrant's lap with her t!ts out foreshadowed Sheikhgate. The kween should never have sanctioned the marriage, but I guess she was desperate to secure a beard for her son.

[@hanaluong2672]

Who has the time to watch these nonsenses?

[@Ponka277]

So why do you watch it here?

[@hanaluong2672]

@@Ponka277 I did not. clicked by mistake. it is a waste of resources.

[@Ponka277]

@@hanaluong2672 writing such comments is a waste too

[@RobertodelaVega-t3w]

I watch these "nonsense" to forget my problems and escape the cold truth that a nuclear war is coming soon which will devastate humanity and bring us all back to the stone age.

[@valerierodger]

⁠@@RobertodelaVega-t3w easy to tell you didn’t grow up during the Cold War. We dealt with the ever present much more realistic possibility of nuclear destruction by watching shows about how horrible it was going to be 😄