Elizabeth Forbids Margaret from Marrying Peter | The Crown (Claire Foy, Vanessa Kirby)

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@MovingPicsOfficial 6 ай бұрын

The use of silence and stillness in this scene is mesmerizing! Which of these two phenomenal actors do you believe owned that scene? Ms.Foy, or Ms.Kirby?

@crystaliclake 6 ай бұрын

Both! They feed off each other so well, you can't have one without the other.

@tomspence8506 3 ай бұрын

@@crystaliclakeAnd Eileen Atkins who plays Queen Mary is an absolutely outstanding actress.

@dariowiter3078 Ай бұрын

That's "actresses," people, not "actors." 🙄😖😒

@01Mary02 6 ай бұрын

Talk about a misreading of scripture. First of all, I've always found it bizarre that the Church of England "doesn't recognize divorce", when the Church came in to being solely because Henry VIII wanted a divorce from his first wife. Secondly, Jesus himself said divorce was permissible on grounds of adultery (Matthew 5:32). Peter Townsend's wife had committed adultery, so he was perfectly within his scriptural rights to divorce her. There really should not have been any issue with him marrying Princess Margaret.

@fitoordigitalhouse-zl6ee 3 ай бұрын

Henry was a man , world is too harsh with women, always

@julianandressalazar5755 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the versicle!

@SuperStella1111 3 ай бұрын

There wasn’t. Parliament was delighted to say yes - we know that now. There was no question she would lose her income. They WANTED her to keep it. What really happened is that Margaret came to her senses. He groomed her from the age of 14. It wasn’t an innocent attraction. She had a distracted father and a drunk mother who didn’t notice whey he MOVED HIS BEDROOM NEXT TO HERS when she was a child. We didn’t call it grooming back then. But it was. The actual love of Margaret’s life was her father. And somehow, she came to her senses. This was the palatable, public relations coup she managed after. Everyone was supportive. Letters had even been drafted explaining her marriage to commonwealth leaders. It all came out under an official secrets act release picky a few years ago.

@IndependentConversations 2 ай бұрын

I don't think grooming is the right word nor do I think an actual relationship itself occurred. You see during the time Margaret was 14 Peter was still fighting in the royal air force he didn't come on till the very end of george Vis tenure when he was a very sick man. How ever I think grooming is the wrong word too. A palace you not alone and when they thought this was even a possibility they moved him to Brussels. Also when the church separated from the catholic church there wasn't royal divorce except for Henry viii because he was an absolute monarchist but also the house of Windsor was the first royal family to bless divorce in 500 years. The church didn't want another Henry VIII situation they wanted the church to be a church not a free pass to divorce for the royals.

@benlowe1701 Ай бұрын

Henry VIII didn't want a divorce from his first wife. Henry VIII didn't believe in divorce. That's just modern shorthand to describe a far more complicated sequence of events. Catherine of Aragon, had been married to Arthur, Prince of Wales, Henry's older brother, before either had turned 16. Her family paid a colossal dowry of 200,000 ducats. In todays money, about $30,000,000 worth of gold. Less then a month later, the two both fell ill with sweating sickness, and although she recovered, Arthur died. Henry VII attempted to retain the money anyway, by having her remarry his second son, Henry, Duke of York, who was five years younger than she was. This would be Henry VIII. Critically however, this required papal dispensation from the pope: because canon law forbade a man to marry his brother's widow. Catherine therefore testified that her marriage to Arthur was never consummated as, also according to canon law, a marriage could be annulled if it was not consummated. This - an annulment - is not the same as a divorce. A divorce ends a marriage. Whilst an annulment proclaims it never to have taken place. Sort of like discovering your wife is your long lost sister. During Henry VIII's reign, he became convinced that his lack of an heir was punishment from God for breaking that law, and marrying his brother's wife. He wanted the Pope to rescind his previous dispensation, and declare that actually, no, Arthur and Catherine *had* consummated their marriage and therefore her marriage to Arthur was valid, which would mean she couldn't also be married to Henry. Theologically, legally, its a very different thing to a divorce.

@trinab9612 2 ай бұрын

I never understood why Charles was allowed to get divorced and remarry and not only remain in the family but still be in line for the crown

@connorjamessanford1783 Ай бұрын

Times change. They modernise

@Sandy-sd5cv Ай бұрын

Because Diana died... Peter's divorcee was not dead..

@sher8129 Ай бұрын

@@Sandy-sd5cv They where divorced before she passed ...

@chepis375 Ай бұрын

Maybe because he married when he was a widower.

@youthoughtuate431 28 күн бұрын

Because he was a boy and also the firstborn heir (peak male privilege)

@LukeKetchum7003 2 ай бұрын

Even when she's crying, she is so beautiful. Vanessa Kirby is a queen in her own right.👑

@NicholasRob 15 сағат бұрын

Yes she is

@s.anz_ 6 ай бұрын

Everytime Vanessa and Claire had scenes together they nailed it❤ i have rewatched these scenes so many times on youtube but it is beautiful to see these two share the screen

@bricktam 6 ай бұрын

This never happened. Elizabeth and her then prime minister Anthony Eden came up with the plan to let Margaret marry Peter AND her titles and salary. It was Margaret who said not to announce anything. She made the choice.

@SuperStella1111 3 ай бұрын

Exactly. She came to her senses. He groomed her from the age of 14. And somehow, she came to her senses.

@FlipMacz 13 сағат бұрын

Yeah this isn't an authorized autobio.... it is a fictional TV show loosely based on the crown....

@tophat2115 6 ай бұрын

she should have married the guy anyway, colonels (group captains) in the RAF make a good wage and have good pensions. She would no longer have the HRH designation but she would have been happy.

@michaelplunkett8059 6 ай бұрын

Not a good wage when you only know life as a king's daughter.

@tophat2115 6 ай бұрын

@@michaelplunkett8059 another option, stay engaged permanently, keep the courtship in defiance of parliament. Moreover, parliaments come and go, once more amenable to their marriage came along, they could proceed.

@audreykennedy90 6 ай бұрын

@@michaelplunkett8059she would have had money from inheritances. Just no longer the allowance.

@robhaver8704 4 ай бұрын

i think the real problem was the fact that it was just Elisabeth and Margaret. in case of The Queens death, Margaret would be Queen. this would become impossible in the case of Margaret marrying Peter Townsend. Elisabeth had no choice.

@Roz-y2d 3 ай бұрын

If the Queen died Margaret wouldn’t be Queen!!!

@OlliMcLane 3 ай бұрын

That was brutal. And so she became the princess with the sad eyes...

@xxwhispersxx2856 2 ай бұрын

Peter went off and married a 20 year old in 1959. He knew Margaret when she was a little kid. Guy was a creep and Margaret was groomed.

@divinity176 2 ай бұрын

What was an 18 year old Philip when he courted the 13 year old Elizabeth? Different times, different attitudes. Someone forgot to tell Andrew about the changes though.

@kca3346 6 ай бұрын

She wasn't willing to give up the attention that came with being HRH to be with him so she obviously didn't love him that much.

@lillyess385 6 ай бұрын

She saw what happened to her uncle.

@sherrielee8871 6 ай бұрын

I think it was more that she would’ve lost her family. As did Edward Vlll

@audreykennedy90 6 ай бұрын

@@sherrielee8871 no she wouldn't but she would have lost the perks.b

@kca3346 6 ай бұрын

@@sherrielee8871 Maybe that would've been for the best. Growing up under the shadow of an older sister and a mother who could fake the deaths of her nieces probably had a lot to do with her depression. A simple life with someone she loved might have been better even if it wasn't as extravagant.

@Roz-y2d 3 ай бұрын

@@kca3346Faked??? She would have been far to young to know anything about them, let alone fake their deaths.

@variousJnames Ай бұрын

😂Margaret knew she didnt love him enough to walk away from the material gains of the royal family or she woukdve chose him.

@melrupp2129 6 ай бұрын

She did not want to be with him under those conditions, she made her bed. She could have had her man, but at the expense of position. But she loved her postition moore.

@nberrypatch02 6 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree. There have been several women in her position who gave up their royal status & entitlements for the sake of being with the person they chose to marry. One of the most recent was Princess Mako of Japan, who married a commoner in 2021 & gave up her royal title and also refused any traditional payout from the Japanese government. It's not so targic as the show made it out to be. Plain & simple fact is that being a royal meant more to Margaret than being Peter's wife & the mother of his children.

@spuwho 6 күн бұрын

Margaret stayed in touch with Peter off and on until just before her death. Her love letters are stored in the Royal Archive and cant be seen until 2030. They had made promises to burn them if they took up with someone else, but it didn't happen.

@RoseRedd-k4b 6 ай бұрын

These rules were ridiculous. Let her marry Peter for god's sake. I know what it it is like to have loved and lost so I can relate to this scene. I don't think I will ever love again either. Vanessa Kirby is so damb beautiful.

@Roz-y2d 3 ай бұрын

The rules aren’t ridiculous. They were put in place to protect the family of the Monarch from making disastrous choices. George iii did it I think after his brothers married ‘unwisely’.

@tuulituulimahan4567 6 ай бұрын

So Maggie, I am the only one in this family to marry the person of choice, questions? Great acting, disgusting stories...

@kca3346 6 ай бұрын

Well Elizabeth knew she was going to be queen one day so she had a very small dating pool, it wasn't an accident she ended up marrying a prince. Margaret was given more freedom for her choice of marriage, since after Elizabeth had Charles there was very little chance Margaret would ever be queen but still ended up choosing someone that was deemed as unsuitable.

@ProfessorTayB 6 ай бұрын

That's religion for ya

@audreykennedy90 6 ай бұрын

@@ProfessorTayBno nothing to do with religion. Margareth preferred the royal perks. She wanted the HRH and allowance.

@jarkachalmovianska7812 4 ай бұрын

As queen she had all the choices. She put herself in the box. Foolish.

@just-tess 3 ай бұрын

well whatever the real story is we can all agree the nonsense against divorce is nothing but toxic

@YarnCrafts4lefties 6 ай бұрын

Bye sis. I love you goodbye while I need to tell you and the royale rules to f off.. A title isn't worth conscripture..

@kca3346 6 ай бұрын

I agree. It may have been a shitty choice to make but it was a choice nonetheless. Her uncle gave up the crown to marry his wife.

@rosesoltis9906 6 ай бұрын

The queen sure dident pull that with her adulteress son and that’s the 1 time she should have put Charles in his place he’s to old anyways and now sickly smh

@Elizabeth-tq7qw 2 ай бұрын

Regardless of what really happened, Netflix’s Elizabeth was crazy to think duty meant she had to require Margaret to leave the family if she married Peter. Giving up the title, money, and place in the succession should have been more than enough. Margaret wasn’t abdicating, and she had a nephew and niece to be Elizabeth’s heirs. I don’t know why Netflix thought what the outside world saw required them to write dialogue that depicted their Elizabeth as out of her mind.

@Saffrondarling 6 ай бұрын

I’m so glad Prince Harry got away from that 💩

@Queen-uj9jt 3 ай бұрын

Well im sure the royal family is very happy that 💩 finally left them to be with that yacht girl

@beautifulleopard3929 14 күн бұрын

EXACTLY. …..

@FlipMacz 13 сағат бұрын

This is really such a joke...after all, look at Charles...

@annstillwell730 6 ай бұрын

She loved her position as a royal more then the man so obviously she did the guy a favor.

@marialucchese7579 6 ай бұрын

😮 What a load of utter nonsense from irrealistic standards.

@glenbolderson2479 3 ай бұрын

She has no choice nonsense she's the Queen. Maybe she needed to remind her advisors of that. She is my sister peter is a decent man if you dont like it petition God.