The Quest 3's First BIG Update & New Haptic Gloves!

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

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[@Zedcrusher]

I've been trying to use the phone notification and it never worked correctly for me which is probably why there discontinuing it

[@Skul1ybe]

Gu gu ga ga

[@iceboundglaceon]

if banter didn't disconnect every 15 minutes it would be tolerable. otherwise the controls are mid and the lack of options/ customization sucks. otherwise fps and latency are nice.

[@LOOKATCJ233]

dang

[@Mr.Seabass]

Thanks so much for your hard work and dedication to our community 🎉

[@sortius_]

As much as I dislike Meta as a company, their support is unsurpassed. My 2nd hand Quest 2 got the usual "burn out the USB-C" port, I contacted Meta, they replaced the headset, no questions asked.

[@RidgeXR_2]

Bigscreen and Valve surpass Meta support by quite a bit.

[@kingblitz1415]

they've been horrible with the store though, I have money from gift cards on my account, but not enough for a game without a promo, but with a promo I can buy it, but it doesn't let me because I don't have enough for the game.

[@aydin3103]

@@RidgeXR_2saying valve has better support shows you haven’t been through their support system Coming from a big valve fan btw

[@ExpandedUniverse000]

@@kingblitz1415Sounds like you’re just broke

[@Ian22011]

@@ExpandedUniverse000rxactly

[@isakjetbean]

New subscriber here - just dropping into the comments to say thanks for wrapping up VR news into such a digestible video. I follow VR across a bunch of subreddits and groups and websites yet you consistently provide the most well-condensed talking points in an entertaining way. Love to see it

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Hey thank you so much!!!! I appreciate it!!

[@jaggedjack]

​@@ThrillSeekerVRI 2nd this. I've tried to watched a couple of other videos about this update and they struggle to be digestible enough to keep my interest and you nail it every time

[@brentstorck3589]

Temperature immersion, that’s a new one for me. I imagine that being useful for day / night differentiation, weather, or using a tool / weapon that heats up during use. Maybe even to indicate an injury or being hit by something.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

I have tried a few little temperature haptic modules before and I don't mean to sound hyperbolic or exaggerative, but I firmly believe that temperature feedback is a WAY bigger deal for immersion than even vibration feedback.

[@besknighter]

@@ThrillSeekerVR Oh wow, really? I never had the chance to try it out but I always felt that it'd be cool (pun-intended) but that's about it. Interesting!

[@gweltazlemartret6760]

​@@ThrillSeekerVRsome drive wheels are using temp feedback to communicate speed changes.

[@PG13park]

Dude with temperature you barely even need actual haptic feed back, for example if you hug something hot or cold, it will feel like your hugging it even though nothing is pressing on your body. Also it’s makes you actually feel like your in a world instead of just seeing it.

[@NotAVtuberPinkyPromise]

With everyone hooking up their heating/ac system to apps these days, it could be very doable.

[@Basement_Ckickn]

3:39 The boundary issues are NOT just a you problem. Had the Quest 2 for about a year now, it is really annoying when issues like that happen, and replacing the whole thing can get annoying fast. Glad to see they are being fixed.

[@atomicBlaze21]

Huh, that haptic glove solution looks pretty interesting in terms of finger texture, I wonder how that could work with the force-feedback of the LucidVR haptic gloves that you covered a while back. Combining fingertip texture and force feedback would be extremely immersive.

[@Uryendel]

Imagine the quality or VR pr0n with that kind of thing, especially with the advance of AI imagery

[@chrxstt]

@@Uryendelloser ass thing for your mind to jump to first dawg 😭

[@geoterra9478]

Just something to note from the Fluid Reality paper: they estimate the cost could go as low as $150/glove if brought to the levels of production where you'd see them on store shelves! (I was the one who brought the paper to thrill's attention in the discord lmao) They could in theory be combined with existing feedback modalities once they scale down the ribbon cables and overall size of the driving electronics (also mentioned in the paper)

[@geoffreyprecht2410]

​@@geoterra9478$150 a glove for that kind of haptic quality? Hard to believe we might be heading towards that future, but it's so exciting that it's even possible!

[@jasonz1810]

This honestly makes me wonder if the "texture" would be good enough to function for Braille or without me googling to see if there is already something like this in place. I know it would not seem as useful as a VR tech until we can simulate seeing via different brain interfaces to help those that are blind.

[@mrbones8266]

Finally an actually Tuesday Newsday

[@AllTheBestVideos]

Bro 😂

[@Dynamike1551]

Right after a friday newsday too!

[@average32potato]

Caught me off guard lol

[@catsarecute7447]

this video came out 15 minutes before Wednesday in my timezone

[@deryorsh]

But it was at close call

[@AshtonCoolman]

Fluid Reality is getting us close to Ready Player One levels of immersion.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

I wanna try them out so bad!

[@teavo3808]

No but genuinely

[@theparrot_anse_wgf]

​​@@ThrillSeekerVRi don't have a VR headset😢

[@RichardServello]

That fluid reality glove was an idea I had in the 90s after I played Dactyl's Revenge in the mall :) Glad to see it only took 30 years...but we're almost there!

[@destinyeubanks3899]

Always gotta love Tuesday Newsday! keep up the good work ThrillSeeker!!

[@RetireandGo]

I agree Great job! These gloves look cool

[@joeys4759]

Doubly so when it comes out on Tuesday.

[@dopamane8777]

we need haptic shoes to feel the sensation of stepping on Legos

[@Suyalus]

slowly there, satan

[@xicetrayx2023]

😂😂

[@BigislandEJ]

I’m a grandpa, I’m gonna try not to let the family know I’m playing with legos in VR , they might put me in a home.

[@KeybladeMasterHarlock]

We must protect this grandpa and his Legos

[@Deathworm-eg5lt]

Legend.

[@BigislandEJ]

@@Deathworm-eg5lt 😎

[@FireFighter-b.001]

I remember a dream I had where someone threw a fireball at me, I had barely dodged it and I remember feeling the heat passing by me, I woke up right after but the sensation that remained made me feel incredible "I dodged of a real fireball." first and last time I felt temperature in a dream, I would like to feel something similar in vr

[@norsh4563]

I have been watching your channel for a little less than three years now and i gotta say, no matter how much you change your video style, you always manage to give us information on vr news in a fun way. Im glad you are getting the subs you deserve for your obvious hard work and i look forward to seeing how much bigger you will become :) ik thrill wont see this but even if your videos arent funny gameplay like Smii7y, you kept me going through some dark places. Thank you

[@hoodie_cat]

"Not even Meta can access your data" _Intense Doubt_

[@michaelkeown1397]

Thanks!

[@Snappers1_]

7:00 OOOF. That hurts. You made that meme dark, yet somehow hilarious at the same time.

[@meridian6042]

The haptic gloves sound amazing. Its not cheap, but that's such a huge leap I'd probably still buy them once they are fleshed out. So cool.

[@StretchDattass]

That's the super early pre-alpha concept price, when/if they get these developed into a consumer VR product they'll probably be about half the price currently. I hope they do custom sizing tho, some of us have monster hands.

[@abcuughklkj]

diver x gloves allready do this for like 500 bucks..

[@xicetrayx2023]

Yeah, I think it’ll be very affordable in a couple years time! Just depends on how long it takes for them to find the right balance of parts , labor and cost.

[@adicsbtw]

2:46 I had an idea while watching this. I'm sure there's a good reason why it hasn't been done yet, but what about just having ferrofluid in the sacs and using electromagnets to actuate them? No need for a mechanically complex pump if you can just change the shape of the fluid through a handful of magnets

[@jakecreator04]

4:03 This sounds really sketchy, like making a 3D map of your home. God knows meta will probably sell this information

[@Meimoons]

You’re not wrong to be skeptical about it

[@QuantumConundrum]

This is how they can afford to subsidize the headset. Problem is that for a lot of people floor plans are findable anyways (e.g. condo+public contractor info). Unless you built it yourself of course. Its hard to know how these consequences will pan out 10-20 years down.

[@DiamondDepthYT]

Noooo. The phone notifications feature was so useful!! Literally the only reason I could comfortably use my headset without worry

[@wick2820]

Meta really has unparalleled support for their old headsets. My Quest 1 has been on life support for the last 2 years and the fact that it can handle Air Link with little to no issue running PCVR games has me really excited for the future of their headsets. I'll be getting my hands on a Quest 3 soon and I can finally put my Quest 1 to rest.

[@PlayshotKalo]

The Quest 2 has better controller tracking. Our Quest 3s have such terrible hand tracking even after several updates, might actually be a hardware issue so you might want to wait a bit and see if it gets fixed

[@frankiifrankii]

Thanks

[@LUNCHWARS]

So glad it's actually Tuesday this time. Keep up the good work man

[@kirkshanghai]

Hey, that world at 7:00 is my homeworld! One of my favorite VRC places for sure.

[@WarpedTrekker]

6:55 I have the elite battery straps for both Q2 and Q3 launch dates. Never had any issues. People who had them break that was mishandling them. User error.

[@panthereal]

Woah TIL one of my senior project partners in college went on to co-found fluid reality, small gloves small world!

[@Propstothemax]

Hey, I was just wondering if anybody knows wat the name of the song in the background at 0:46? I've kind of been looking everywhere for it, but i cant find it. thanks!

[@ericmackrodt9441]

Idea: Haptic socks where you simulate stepping on Legos.

[@ParkerSeeley]

4:22 FYI Thrill, End to End Encryption doesn't mean meta can't read your headsets backups, end to end encryption just means intercepting the backup while it's on the way to meta's servers is a lot harder. Even if it did mean meta couldn't read the backup I'd be surprised if they can't just read the entire storage of the headset whenever they want anyway. And even if there was proof that there is no backdoor to read the headsets entire storage or ram or any other important component and this backup was also encrypted before being sent by something like AES, there's still no reason why they couldn't claim that the backup is encrypted before being sent to their servers and then sent the encryption keys of that system with the backup. There are no real ways to ensure a company holding your data backups can't read them without you yourself encrypting them and keeping those keys secure outside of a system that company has explicitly greenlit

[@QuantumConundrum]

Its entirely a chain of trust when the access is limited, and on teh topic of storage. That's why it matters a lot when companies don't comply to external demands, or when they do they actually hand over encrypted data. That's the only way that trust is built... and like you said, there's still no 100% but let's just say some companies are closer to 100% than others.

[@John-qo9hw]

You have no clue what you are talking.

[@GyroNitr0]

I think a 2023 VR News Recap Would Be Pretty 🔥

[@wriel1312]

the lego game and the fluid gloves sound like a match made in heaven

[@Chaps_sigma]

You should do another “The ULTIMATE Oculus Quest 3 Setup”

[@john38825]

Cant wait for huge performance updates for quest 3. We all know they will eventually show up We want numbers to go vrrrrrrr

[@pablose6986]

YOU USED THE GABEN SAYING FROM THE INTERVIEW!!! YESSS TURN IT INTO A MEME!!! WOOOOOOOOOO

[@HotdogSosage]

I wish I had a vr headset to join the party. I'm spending all of Christmas by myself

[@Blujustice]

Always dropping that dope research. Much appreciated Thrill.

[@Mutrax4706]

6:17 this is exactly why i chose to go with 3rd party straps immediatly. both cuz people claimed the elite strap for quest 2 was more like delete strap sometimes - clearly the same here, and cuz it sometimes just wasnt really the most comfy/convenient product. it was better than stock strap yes, but tbh with what meta's straps cost, youre actually better off just going for kiwi design for cheaper yet more comfy, or extra comfort at a slightly higher (still lower than meta) price at bobovr

[@Verociity]

15:20 why does my spatial data need to be uploaded to their cloud and not locally? It was fine on Quest2, but they made it unreliable on Quest3 to incentivize sharing your data to use the feature.

[@youngpast0228]

So I actually bought a quest 3 yesterday. Set it up last night and hopefully will get to dive into it tomorrow afternoon. I hope it's worth it lol.

[@starofaetherius]

Glad to see theyre still supporting and upgrading the quest series. I always love seeing my quest homies get a boost. Now if only the $1000 pro had a decent mic for social VR or "meetings and productivity" since that was their marketing pitch. Had to get a refund and send mine back so i can get an index instead. Quest 2 is still the king of standalone.

[@32BitJunkie]

Quest 2 is good, quest 3 is a bit better

[@GamerRedRaven]

Dude the intro is always so clean! also your not alone i never remmember which one is x

[@lamboking8able]

3:18 ok I'm new to vr but i thought it was only me that couldn't figure out which button was which

[@Olyoop527]

3:07 Trust me your not the only one lmao. I’ve owned a quest 2 sense the first Christmas sense the launch of the quest 2. I’ve played countless hours in vr with games that utilizing these buttons and yet… I remember them by the top left button, bottom left button, and same for the right top & bottom buttons. Which my mind knowing the buttons in that way sucks for 1 reason… I accidentally tell people buttons by those names. “How do I do that?” “Oh yea it’s the left top button.” “What?”. Yea it sucks

[@michaelwoodby5261]

I bought a 65 dollar strap off Amazon for like 50 bucks on Black Friday at the same time i bought my Quest 3, and I'm so glad I did. Only used the original strap for a couple hours, and it's so much worse than the Quest 2. There are good, affordable straps that keep the Quest 3 running for hours, they just aren't made by Meta.

[@SpeedyTurtle360]

Love the vertigo 2 gameplay in the backround, that game needs more attention.

[@OneBitGaming]

Haven't seen meme break in a while. Didn't realize it would come back so dark lmao

[@bluebell1]

Great video Thrill. You rock!

[@iWerli]

I'd really like to see a set of gloves with joints that go over your fingers, and can lock in place when you fully grip an object. For example, gripping a pistol, you wouldn't make a full fist, you'd get halfway to a full fist then the gloves joints would block you from going further. Would definitely make you feel like you're really holding something

[@KaschMasch]

At first, I was confused, and then I noticed that that's an AMAZING idea! Very smart, and I think that'd be just as cool as full body tracking, especially combining the two!

[@redline1916]

they actually started developing that too

[@engineeredaf1920]

fluid reality was at AWE this past year. all they had setup was the finger pad running through a few demos but it was really compelling.

[@64jcl]

Someone's definitely going to invent haptics for feet so you can feel the bricks when you step on them in Lego Brick Tales. 😂

[@JoakimCalais]

It says at 2:45 that the price for the alternative is 5495 per individual pair, so not per glove.

[@mr.waldodebaldo3208]

4:25 now meta will know what your house looks Like

[@DarduinAdventure]

i never miss a video 💪

[@geoffreyprecht2410]

If your hand was the size of a house, you could still feel something the size of an ant. Our fingers are VERY sensitive, so I get the feeling those gloves are just the start. Heck of a proof of concept, though! Those liquid reality haptic gloves are incredible and I'm so excited for them, especially at that insane price point! I actually had to pause when I saw "raspberry pi" in the schematics because I was so excited.

[@NaJk93]

I don't have a VR headset and never have had one. But thanks to your videos i can follow the news about the tech and releases for it. Thanks Thrill! Been following for years now!

[@toonpik7]

3:09 same here, i think the design of these controllers just isn’t very good for intuiting button placements. something like the wii remote never had this problem, and obviously regular game controllers don’t have this problem

[@derptweaker945]

3:58 "Cloud Computing capabilities" detailed data about your own house soon stored at the M.V.H (Meta Villains Headquarter)

[@cynicalraid4473]

3:48 "ready to beat some sabers" 💀

[@lightswitch8248]

Great Tuesday Newsday! All these advancements in immersion for the VR industry is really awesome to see. They'll definitely help to realize my dream of creating the ultimate VR room in the future. Can't wait to see what comes next Thrill 👍

[@drakowerewolf7209]

Hey Thrill. What do you think of Resonite? I don't see many people talking about it, which is a shame cause it's an incredible piece of VR software. If you remember Neos, you'll know what I'm talking about. Resonite is being developed by the same people that made Neos, except for that one guy that put crypto into it. So yeah, Resonite is essentially Neos, but without crypto and I feel like it needs more coverage. The team behind it deserves it.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Resonite is awesome! I haven't spent much time in it though as I've been in unity more than in games lately, but i did hop into resonite for a while and its basically neos but better which is awesome!

[@simpson6700]

can't wait for VR shoes, so i can feel stepping on VR legos

[@jameskirk4692]

Thank you talking about all these news! They were very very interesting.

[@kirkshanghai]

I was expecting to hear your take on RE4 coming to PSVR2 in just a few days! I'm so excited.

[@raamizeineddine8384]

Does anyone know the name of the song at the end of the video? I tried shazaming it but no luck

[@super_zero_62]

We need haptic gloves for standalone

[@FunFreakeyy]

9:50 Don't worry, even nowadays there are enough Lego alternatives out there, which have similar or better quality and are even cheaper.

[@PedroRafael]

nice developments, thank you for sharing!

[@BolshayaPalka]

what song was used @0:48 used for background music in the vid?

[@NickelW]

2:45 assuming the quote shown on screen was what you were talking about, it doesn't cost "5 times that per glove", as $5,495 is the price for an "individual pair", therefore each individual glove is $2,747.50, so to be accurate, "2.75 times that per glove". I see where the error came from though, as saying "individual pair" is a very strange choice of words lmao

[@GumikoVT]

Can't believe were getting Friday News Days 3 days early!

[@ajvYT]

Interesting because when I got my elite strap right off the bat for my quest 2 when that came out mine broke in a similar fashion to thrills, not snapping on the arms

[@vip_bimmervip_bimmer8033]

Makes my week every tuesday newsday

[@MoietyVR]

10 of us with a Quest Pro? I think not, there are DOZENS of us, DOZENS!

[@sky0kast0]

Hmm I'd bet 50 or so watch this channel

[@Yipper64]

I mostly play VR chat so im just waiting for the day that affordable haptic gloves come out and I can give headpats and feel them.

[@fayenotfaye]

That’s my reddit post at 6:38 I was so confused for a moment 😭

[@Alexorsumidk]

This makes the week 27x better ngl

[@jvann244]

I love your buzzcut. You have a good face / head shape for that look and you really rock it

[@Eliteownage]

much love all!

[@ashtonhughes8980]

The graphics in Lego brick tales is insane it is awesome a very good game worth the money the mechanics on building is exactly what you want I love it!

[@dayveeman]

Yeah, I had the won't charge issue with the elite battery strap myself. It's a bummer too, the comfort was great, now I gotta find something else.

[@wvkeupits_exren]

TUESDAY NEWSDAY YALL ITS A SIGNNNN

[@sugarmess_vr]

It gives some goosebumps even while watching this video! One can only imagine that feeling of touching and experiencing e all that😜

[@Secarious]

Thrill assuming everyone's bedroom is airconditioned is such a privalidged people problem XD

[@glori1081]

Now quest 3 is a good girlfriend, she remembers boundaries

[@itsbiggs2540]

I got the battery strap on launch with the Quest 3, been solid so far, but we'll see....

[@subedipatel3133]

I think those temperature haptics researchers need to stop wasting their time. The microfluidic haptics at the beginning of the video could probably easily be modified to allow for cold, and hot sensations by pumping hot or cold water/oil. The researchers are trying to rely on temperature deltas that are just too miniscule, and their prototypes looked massive. Instead you can play with larger temperature deltas by pumping hot water/oil for hot sensations, purging with cold water instantly for neutral temperatures. Do the inverse for a cold scenario. Better to have an all in one device than needing two haptic devices that probably wouldnt be simultaneously compatible and would drive up cost.

[@johnathanmiret2124]

I feel like the fluid reality tech could be implemented for use in braille in smartphones for the visually impaired, if the tech gets implemented properly

[@FrenziedMew]

Great vid as always Thrill :3

[@change252]

I really wanna know how much it is to manufacture the gloves. I can understand labor cost and shipping costs but $1,000…? Come on man

[@xblackdog]

I would love to see those gloves applied to full body. Imagine what it could pull off if they made it into a skin suit?!

[@TrillerVogel]

I think a lot of people could imagine some things😂

[@ij20man35]

I know this is a bit off topic, but the last game clip made me really crave a VR Signalis game. It would be cool to see the low poly semi pixel style in VR.

[@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast]

Congrats on the 700k subscribers

[@daedalus332]

The temperature thing is interesting, I have found that if I play a vr game for long enough my brain can trick itself, but as soon as I notice it, it goes away which is super frustrating

[@Agent_Matt_6]

I feel like the phone notification is great if you’re in vr and someone like your dad is trying to call you about something important

[@BartFreeman]

Every time I hear the vive/index controllers ON sound, I feel something. Good job using the sound in ur intro. Keep up with what you like doing. 😎👌

[@patrickcollins7746]

people been trying to do the liquid filled button thing for a long time, their was a company demoing it at CEW 2013 for a tablet

[@chris_is_here_oh_no]

Excellent video, perfect summary of the weeks news.

[@jokerzyo]

Labeling upper and lower would be much better for VR buttons. That's how me and my friends explain how to do stuff to each other in vr

[@c_alford2011]

Bro we’re just getting closer and closer to living in the oasis from ready player one