The Quest That Almost Made Me QUIT Tarkov...

[@kunrath]

I always skip setup.. my main goals are max traders + epsilon.. then just mess around, pvp, help friends with quests and pvp/loot runs.. thats what tarkov is about for me.

[@MaskedFPS]

I think I might do that next wipe instead of trying to get these painful non essential quests done 😅

[@kunrath]

@@MaskedFPS this way you get the best of tarkov has to offer

[@Hei-Tsuya]

I would've said the same thing, then I realized setup is a quest that needed to be done for LK. Thankfully I'm done with it though

[@MaskedFPS]

Too much of a grind going for LK. Hard to find the time or motivation for me but would be a nice achievement

[@billzhao1857]

I did setup last wipe and I don't really wanna do it this wipe. I can really feel you suffering through your video, so glad you complete that son of gun quest!

[@MaskedFPS]

Thanks dude, yes this quest always manages to frustrate me... I don't think I will do it in future wipes 😅

[@BlackcatPH1]

I like setup quest this wipe because they re adjust the kills and early wipes quest where you can encounter timmies with no gear or lvl3

[@MaskedFPS]

Yeah I think BMG slugs might be a better option than piranha...

[@radal3270]

Setup and punisher 4 are the worst quest in this game. Cuz this gear suck and you cant play the game like how u want it to.

[@MaskedFPS]

Yep..Punisher Part 4 is the only quest I hate more than setup. I am dreading doing it this wipe... 🤣

[@Nohoth]

I think set up is worse. At least with punisher part 4 you can use any gun you want and just get the scav killa seperate.

[@MaskedFPS]

Yes, but lighthouse is such a terrible map 😅

[@JohnnyBoy8089]

Punisher 4 only quest i camp in a bush im sorry

[@thejp8152]

punisher part 4 is horrible and im stuck on part 6... im just allergic to the SVD

[@Luemir]

This is the first wipe I completed Setup, and I enjoyed. Catching PMCs off guard and unloading flechette into their legs was the most fun I've had in this damn game.

[@MaskedFPS]

I'm happy for you dude. 2nd time I've done this quest now and I hated it more than the first time 😅

[@M1XB0X]

u dont have to shoot legs with flechette, its good chest/head ammo, legs is magnum

[@yungweezer]

Flechette is not a leg ammo. It's one of the few that can actually kind of pen armor

[@dre4adclips773]

I also did most of my quests this wipe as a solo, and yes this one is not easy but I managed to do it quite fast. Instead of rushing this quest and feeling frustrated I waited and focused on other quests that would allow me to unlock AP-20 craft. I crafted like 4 batches of ammo and went on customs with a suppressed shotgun and an ELCAN 4x scope. This made the quest so much easier most people run level 4 armor and you can 2tap them in the chest or 1tap them if they run level 3. I really recommend to try and do the quest like this it turned something that I hated into something actually fun and I managed to finish it in only 4 raids and I didn't even die. There is one more way to do this, If you are a good shot you can complete this quest with the MP-18, the single shot rifle that fires 7.62x54, it's considered a shotgun because it's smoothbore, I am not sure if this is easier because you need to reload after each shot but it does allow you to play more like a sniper and engage players at long range instead of camping or rushing with a normal buckshot shotgun.

[@MaskedFPS]

Nice strategy bro, AP-20 would definitely make this quest more bearable. I'm thinking if I ever try it again to just run BMG slugs which are like budget AP20.

[@TheBeastlySunBro]

Good work getting setup done bro! Cant wait to see you do punisher part 4 Im currently stuck on it and im struggling to even find someone... It would honestly be helpful to see how you get it done!

[@MaskedFPS]

I am planning to do a Punisher questline video but it will take a while to put together. I did a video on Punisher Part 4 last wipe if you want to check that one out 😁

[@TheBeastlySunBro]

@MaskedFPS I checked it out was definitely helpful! finally finished it! Honestly I think it made me a better player, so many Chad's I genuinely got better at taking them out though positioning and tactics. Got all my kills in a morning and night once it clicked, although now I feel spoilt for choice since I was stuck on lighthouse so long....

[@MaskedFPS]

Nicely done dude. I'm on Punisher 4 now actually and I've only done one raid and got killed by someone camping on a rock... motivation Is low 🤣

[@lthammox]

The secret to doing setup with less frustration is to not play it like that. I always use superperformance slugs, and leg meta them from distance. My favourite spot is the sniping hole in Wearhouse 4 at night. Nobody checks it, and so many players cross over there to get to old gas. Camping just southwest of dorms is also a winner. There’s a nice pit to sit in on the east side of the hill. Only problem there is getting swarmed by scavs. MP-155 all decked out, and with a valday.

[@MaskedFPS]

Yeah I am very impatient with this quest and just try run around and find players... not the best method 🤣

[@matthewgoodwin3645]

I think the key to setup is doing it as soon as you get it. I did it pretty much right away and it was so much easier to do when people were wearing Level 4 armour.

[@MaskedFPS]

Yeah true early wipe it might be easier since everyone's got tier 4 or above Armour now which does make it more difficult. I think I won't even do it next wipe...

[@matthewgoodwin3645]

@@MaskedFPS I did it for the first time this wipe and I found trying to get a kill off spawn then just running to dorms and lurking around until I get another the best way. After going to dorms I would just reset

[@soldaatjhu]

This wipe Setup was so easy for me, but last wipe I struggled. I finally got it by laying on the red crane or the roof of the bus next to it, equiping a decent scope on my shotgun and using Super Formance rounds. Easy kills.

[@MaskedFPS]

Nice strategy bro, might have to try this one time

[@kiki_de]

You have to camp mate. RUAF gate and the bushes before the little skeleton are great to catch one or two off guard. No fancy shot gun and magnum buck shot are enough to blow some legs away.

[@MaskedFPS]

This would definitely make it easier than what I did, just glad to have it done...

[@letshoofit1236]

Flechette to the face works fine in qcb. Customs has plenty areas to fight close from cover. Dont understand the hate on this task, i find it very fun and pretty easy tbh.

[@MaskedFPS]

I think tasks that force you to use specific gear and guns just make it not enjoyable. At least for me, I am not a fan of shotguns

[@letshoofit1236]

@@MaskedFPS aye thats a fair point. Cant say I enjoy the bolt action stuff myself.

[@MaskedFPS]

I feel like I am a rifle/smg enjoyer, bolt actions aren't my go to either

[@ItBeLikeThatSometimes247]

I did setup with punisher part 3 brought in 2 guns. It increases your survivability and you are able to progress on 2 quests per raid. Good luck in your raids everyone!

[@MaskedFPS]

Interesting, that's very efficient. I always find Punisher Part 3 quite easy since customs has so many scavs!

[@imSkrap]

this wipe i completed this in 2 raids which felt awesome especially with how action packed both raids were, technically it took 8 raids but the other 6 i seriously didnt run into ANYONE despite running to every gunshot and popular locations... so i had the same kit the whole time

[@MaskedFPS]

That sounds like a dream dude, 2 raids to get it done vs how much I suffered 😅

[@grygaming5519]

There are a lot of quests in Tarkov that need serious revamping. Setup is one of those quests that need to be revamped hard. To me, Setup should be done in 3 parts. Setup 1) Kill 5 USEC PMC's and collect 5 dog tags, Must wear a Bear WARTECH TV-115 plate carrier, AK series rifle and Ratnik class helmet. Turn in 5 USEC tags. Setup Part 2) Kill 5 BEAR PMC's and collect 5 dog tags. Must wear a USEC Eagle Allied Industries MBSS plate carrier, M4 and Tac-Kek FAST MT helmet (Replica). Turn in 5 BEAR tags. Setup Part 3) Stash a M4, Fast MT helm and 5 USEC tags outside a BEAR safehouse on burned/covered bodies in Customs, Stash an AK-74, Ratnik helmet and 5 BEAR Dog Tags outside a USEC safehouse in Ground Zero. Stash a secure flash drive in BEAR safe house on custom, Stash a Secure Flash Drive in the USEC safehouse on ground zero. This way while its split in 3 parts its manageable. It does not matter where the tags and kills are done giving the player flexibility to go to other maps and collect the kills + tags. Setup part 3 having doctored film data on each drive would show USEC attacking a BEAR safehouse (but in reality it was Skier's men) and the same for USEC safehouse. The goal is basically you planting the 'correct' evidence to provide the necessary info that it was both sides going at each other. Punisher 4, Setup and other quests that sort of lock you into a specific area to kill x amount of PMC/SCAVs are awful on PVP its worse on PVE with the RNG being do you get enough PMC's to kill for x quest, or will they even be the right faction. More flexibility to complete quests how the player sees fit while still maintaining the core of the line quest should be the objective the team needs to internalize.

[@MaskedFPS]

Damn dude all I have to say is you should be a quest designer for BSG, that was an impressive read 😁🫡

[@grygaming5519]

​@@MaskedFPS The issue with Tarkov Quests are....they are not fun to do or complete. They are for the most part tedious and heavily based on RNG. The RNG making the quests artificially difficult and time consuming. Questing should be balanced on a 3 point scale....is it fun for the player....will the player be able to complete it within a set amount of time....and will the proper resources be accessible to the player. Then you scale the difficulty as the player progresses with each quest being slightly more difficult to do but manageable within the player's expectation in completing (aka set amount of time). As Ground Zero is the "starting" area, there should be a starting quest for each of the main traders with a new trader replacing the position of Jaeger. Jaeger should be placed on the same level of Lightkeeper and Ref. As he's sort of already fits that role with the letter of introduction via Mechanic. Prapor, Therapist, Mechanic and Skier give introduction quests with Skier doing a unlock quest for Peacekeeper on Ground Zero. Prapor will unlock a quest that eventually introduces you to Ragman. Therapist will then unlock a new Trader that takes the role of Jager (who you need at LL3 for bathroom and water) being more themed around waste, hazmat and water treatment. This will slot Jaeger who serves as a Partisan/Boss task manager hence being more in the group of Lightkeeper and Ref. Once the player leaves ground zero via a quest dubbed "escaping Tarkov" from Prapor, this is where Mechanic's quest to unlock Jaeger via the woods is now accessible. Even the quest idea mention is just finding intel for Prapor who will then give you intel on how to escape the city. Even though at the end of the quest Prapor is very vague on the how to do it and rather would exploit you to his own gains. From there you'd want to weed out the older "starting quests", exchange them for newer updated versions.

[@MaskedFPS]

I do agree that the quests are not actually fun to do. What would be smart in my opinion as it's a lot of work to revamp quests is to just have starting quests shuffle around a bit more. E.g. maybe we start on interchange one wipe with the ragman quests and customs happens later. Or we start on shoreline immediately with those early wipe shoreline quests as opposed to always starting on gzero/customs etc. That might change it up a bit and not have every wipe be so repetitive.

[@grygaming5519]

@@MaskedFPS The biggest issue is from just looking at the quests themselves. Its designed more as tedium vs actual progress. The quests themselves and the design mythology is very old or worse case...stapled on as a afterthought as busy work the for the player. The quest that seem more fleshed out from a true design standpoint are lightkeeper's quests. In essence we have what over 200+ quests from nine different traders (10 if we count Fence's) Out of all of those only 170ish are needed for Kappa. The time sink is just heavy and its a big reason why for some odd reason Nikita doesnt understand why majority of players migrated to PvE other then well the issues with enforcing a fair playing field. Ideally cutting Kappa requirements to 120 quests, i'll preface my point by saying what I mean by easy, medium and hard is time investment...not how simple they are to complete would be a strong step in the right direction. 40 easy quests (should take less than 10 hours investment), 40 medium quests (25 hours at minimum to complete) and 40 hard (60 hours at minimum). That means over the course of a wipe at minimum to reach kappa should be no more than 95 hours of investment for the average mid-level tarkov player on the PvP side. That's 120 quests with capstone required quests to complete. Even having 120 quest needed to complete out of 170 is perfectly fine, giving flexibility to the player to chose what 120 quests to do in order to unlock the Kappa chain would be more beneficial at this point. I know the argument against that would be, the game would get too boring if its 95 total hours to reach kappa. Then if that's the case the lack of engaging content is the issue, not just the Kappa container. Before PVE became a thing in Tarkov, the average player would quit around level 40, not making it to half way through Kappa. As the game grew the length of the average player would in fact decrease becoming close to level 25-35 before they would call it quits. The streamer/no-lifer are the outliers and judging a game by the outliers is not good for the health of the game. I agree that the questing revamp needs to happen sooner the better. Adjusting the said quests is not enough, looking at these quests and creating a more comprehensive guidepost for the player is needed. A game should give the player enough information to decode what is needed to be done without a need of an external source. That external source should only serve to augment their knowledge.

[@MaskedFPS]

Appreciate your opinion on this, very interesting read and I hope they do implement some quest changes, it's a must.

[@jacobpedersen2368]

Psycho sniper.. This is the one quest for me that makes me wanna quit for good.

[@MaskedFPS]

I havent ever tried that quest and I don't think I ever will after reading the requirements 🤣

[@VisceralApex]

Once I quit using Piranha ammo it went way smoother for me. It is super inconsistent unless you're right in someone's face

[@MaskedFPS]

Maybe that's the mistake I was making, better off using BMG slugs or something

[@EkeNunn]

Good stuff 😊

[@MaskedFPS]

Thanks bro!

[@MoozyTheDealer]

At least they lowered the kills this wipe :P I got this one godlike game when I killed 5 guys on dorms so no pain for me this wipe

[@MaskedFPS]

Yeah im so grateful it's only 8 kills now. Sounds like an insane raid dude good job 😅

[@liam_galuski]

u can use the new single shot rifle with mosin rounds counts as a mp shotgun

[@MaskedFPS]

Not even sure that'd make it easier tbh 🤣

[@liam_galuski]

@@MaskedFPS I did it in 3 raids they see a ushanka and think they’re safe from distance 😂

[@MaskedFPS]

Haha true they'd assume you running a shotty with piranha, is it accurate like a Mosin? 🤣

[@Niimbz]

Knowing the spawns is important - but phrasing it "knowing the spawns can net you some easy kills" in a scenario where you 1000 % would be dead if the other dude hadn't been complete pepega is pretty wild. He caught you pants down not aimed in or anything and a lucky headshot saves the day - you even see him on the screen way before you swing to him further solidifying that you had no clue, so a bit of a stretch to frame that as intended.

[@MaskedFPS]

That comment is not tied to one specific moment. For example when I ran up to fortress, had I been sitting at the window on the right I would have had a free kill but I wasn't and ended up dying, goes both ways my guy

[@Niimbz]

@@MaskedFPS but that is not very clear when it is added as a clear post commentary thing. I think the intention you describe doesn't come through it just sits there as a dubious statement where it isn't clear if that refers to him, you, the whole situation etc.

[@MaskedFPS]

Well some of the kills I got and in other videos too are attributed to knowing the spawns and using that to my advantage, it was intended as a generalised statement.

[@IIMoNsTerII7]

I completed it yesterday using bmg slugs with a specter and sniping with it

[@MaskedFPS]

Nice bro, that's how I do majority of the "kill scavs with shotgun" quests

[@leonardnordwall8624]

thats the problem you need to run setup as soon as you unlock since people have less armour so you dont have to try and kill level 40+ pllayers

[@MaskedFPS]

Yeah you are right, I definitely made it more difficult for myself 🤣

[@leonardnordwall8624]

@@MaskedFPS i really enjoyed the video !

[@MaskedFPS]

I'm glad bro!

[@Rowber]

I wanted to go for lightkeeper this wipe and I am very close but I just need setup and it is so boring 😢

[@MaskedFPS]

Not only is it boring, but it's extremely painful too 🤣 nice work on almost getting to lightkeeper dude!

[@doraexploredtherefrigerato307]

its because you did it so late while people have good armor, the best strategy is to do it early while people are still wearing t3/t4 piranhas are great here and even magnum because of the helmets not having ears or lower early wipe.

[@MaskedFPS]

Yeah this does make sense, I probably made it harder for myself leaving it late 😅

[@pasghetto975]

one of my favorite quests in the game bro im so mad they made it 8 kills instead of 15

[@MaskedFPS]

You are mad and I am so happy 😅

[@meedy2023]

Dunno why people complain about this , I did pmc butchery with a shotgun in dorms than with end level meta weapons lol.

[@MaskedFPS]

Some of us don't like being forced to use shotguns 😅

[@nopeaches4you460]

MP-18 with a high powered scope is Setup on easy mode :D

[@MaskedFPS]

Might give this a go next time 🤣

[@dardeb15]

done it and got to say I loved it lol. My friends are still doing it . Used pirahna rounds.

[@MaskedFPS]

You are built different if you actually enjoyed it 🤣

[@dardeb15]

@@MaskedFPS trust me got lots of deaths on tarkov a few more added didn't affect me 🤣

[@MaskedFPS]

😅 you ain't wrong about that one

[@nukaemillange6371]

I'm honestly scared for setup because most AI PMCs in pve are on something

[@MaskedFPS]

At least you can get close easily at times, use a nade to force them to move and free kill.

[@TrashPanda338]

I thought they opened the quest to all maps? Is it still just customs?

[@MaskedFPS]

Not from what I've heard bro. Always Customs

[@MrSauce714]

As painful as this quest is the trick is tackle this as early in the wipe as you can, otherwise fighting level 5 armor and alytns with a shotty just isn’t fun.

[@MaskedFPS]

Yeah you aren't wrong about that

[@NekoTalk]

Flechette melts t5 armor no problem & nobody is running around with Altyns unless they’re cheating

[@Apex-jf4pn]

Piranha < Magnum buck < Flechette IMO for set up

[@MaskedFPS]

Interesting, thanks bro

[@KatsuD3]

Setup is the funniest quest to do

[@MaskedFPS]

Most painful, actually only Punisher Part 4 is worse

[@Chevalier_knight]

No whats worse is that to get sp6 ammo you need to do punsher quest oine then do outposts that can take for ever becuase no one goes to the woods spot.

[@MaskedFPS]

I dont think I've ever finished outposts, that's too much work and rng. SPP rounds will have to do 🤣

[@Chevalier_knight]

@@MaskedFPS the issue is they have all these guns that use spp ammo but if youre not using sp6 you cant even pen lvl 5

[@brkinwrx6200]

bro fire the gun more than 3 times per person. you have to spam for the headeyes dont try getting it with a 1 tap

[@MaskedFPS]

I am not a shotgun enjoyer 🤣

[@Atelos69]

Why people still using flechette or piranha? It cannot kill anyone, I done this quest with FTX slug so quickly

[@MaskedFPS]

I dont use shotguns often, is FTX slugs the way to go now?

[@Atelos69]

@@MaskedFPS yeah, it's cheap and penetrate 2 lvl armor, this is enough for killing pmc in throat and it has good flash damage

[@MaskedFPS]

Thanks bro!

[@MrMetalball]

This task is easy compared to actually hard tasks later in the game... do people just not make it past this quest to know that there are wayyyy worse ones down the road?

[@MaskedFPS]

I dont quest that much to be honest. I don't go for kappa LK etc. I do know there's incredibly hard quests down the road ofcourse 😅

[@plasmaspitter]

setup is my fav quest :D

[@MaskedFPS]

You are lucky, I can't stand it 😅

[@AdriftJonezy]

Setup is easy. The hard tasks are the ones like stray dogs. Complete RNG.

[@MaskedFPS]

Yeah, I think just the ones that force you to use certain guns and armor really make things "not fun"

[@ShadowBeatzR3mix]

Level 47 pve still putting off Setup

[@MaskedFPS]

I dont blame you bro 🤣

[@JadedCoD]

This is my 12th wipe and I’ve completed that terrible quest once or twice. It definitely ruins the game.

[@MaskedFPS]

Can confirm it ruins the game for me also. Punisher Part 4 is the absolute worst though

[@husler1999]

Set up Is fun!!!!!

[@MaskedFPS]

Not sure I agree with that one 🤣

[@GrimDaveness]

Setup is the dumbest quest in the game. I have died like 8 times in a row. I am done

[@MaskedFPS]

I know your pain bro, gotta push through man the good raid is right around the corner

[@Patsoor]

Never have I ever wasted time on dumbass quests like these. IF I would play again, I'd be playing what and how I want, and not go shitgun on freakin customs

[@MaskedFPS]

That's the spirit bro! 🤣

[@Patsoor]

@@MaskedFPS I actually have to admit that I did try some runs but going for these kind of quests forces me into doing things I normally don't do so I suck even more :) But do keep up the content, I'm not playing anymore for almost a year now but do watch some stuff from you from time to time

[@MaskedFPS]

Fair enough bro and appreciate that you watch 😁

[@davidholt8207]

am i confused but by you waiting for a month to do it doesn't that just making it worse for you i try to complete it as soon as i get it i understand nobody likes the game telling you to use the gear they want you to use but thats the game

[@MaskedFPS]

It definitely Made it worse for me, but I just haven't had as much motivation with tarkov questing this wipe so I procrastinated it 😅

[@nergigante.]

Use slugs and camp. ;)

[@MaskedFPS]

If I ever do this quest again, that is definitely what I'll do 😅

[@Jur4S]

Ho can anyone say setup is hard when quest like psycho sniper or blushit exist? What about test drive? 20 kills on streets with 40 fps on 2000$ pc

[@MaskedFPS]

Because I don't actually do those quests 😅

[@Jur4S]

@@MaskedFPS haha okay then it make sens.

[@MaskedFPS]

🤣

[@uhhh684]

i actually had a much better time doing setup this quest, oh wait i still need one more kill lol.

[@MaskedFPS]

Nice dude, can't say the same for me 🤣 just glad I managed to get it done

[@princetonnguyen6928]

xDD psycho sniper sounds worse

[@MaskedFPS]

Sniping quests are difficult too 🤣

[@runewarrior0]

I just camp an extract and afk play another game or watch a movie/series

[@MaskedFPS]

Not gonna lie that sounds like a very good strategy

[@title2779]

Ez task

[@MaskedFPS]

🤣

[@crumbz420]

Cheaters are killing tarkov , not the quest dude

[@MaskedFPS]

Not wrong about this one... I've seen a few lately

[@crumbz420]

Jjjajjajajaja i agree ofc , anyway i hate bolt action quest like pshyco Sniper 😂 i understand ur feel

[@ParkaYK]

Oh no, a quest gated by player skill. Why do people feel entitled to be able to complete every tarkov quest easily or at all? Questline to Kappa are ment to be hard and force you to adapt to weapons and playstyles you don’t play or want to play. Participation trophy syndrome

[@MaskedFPS]

This quest locks many behind it, wouldn't even consider it as a Kappa quest, it is quite crucial. I personally dislike questing altogether so when forced to use shotguns etc. It makes the game not enjoyable, just my opinion