The Quest to Beat abney317

[@SummoningSalt]

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[@ARCHIVED9610]

YOO

[@thomaswburkhart]

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[@jonj5909]

Yes

[@jtracome87]

@@vermski j

[@jeff09_]

Bet

[@gulermo]

Forest64 is a badass - discovers new gamebreaking shortcut - sends to abney even tho he never participated in his streams - leaves without elaborating further

[@wilbababa]

> Completely changes the MK64 speedrunning scene > Refuses to elaborate

[@MarthSR]

And that's absolutely perfect the way it is. Create a mystique that will be talked about for years to come. I can definitely appreciate that!

[@reidleblanc3140]

He's still doing it. Did it recently. > Discovers a way to do a 0.01 second lap > Literally refuses to elaborate. Like, doesn't tell anyone how he did it or share his inputs or anything. Only gives in like a week later

[@gulermo]

@@reidleblanc3140 bro really appeared out of nowhere and proceeded to change the whole speedrunning scene of the game multiple times

[@KrazzeeKane]

@reidleblanc3140 ugh, people like that bug me. If you're going to show off to everyone that you discovered some new tech, then don't be a dick and refuse to share and elaborate lol. Like if someone wants to keep tech to themselves, just don't go around talking about it and showing off, otherwise of course people are going to want to know how it's done. If he was in the position of the other people, he'd understand how much it sucks to have someone lord information over you

[@justamir5]

A shortcut being discovered in the 90s and not being globally known until 2020 is insane

[@athenaraines]

Older games are probably *more* likely to have stuff like this happen. They didn’t have the luxury of the record keeping we have today. Look what happened with Matt Turk and the punch out scene. Some of the known tech from back then had to be re-discovered because the community had been completely dead for years. It’s more likely a big time save from the 90s is lost to time than something from the 2010s at this point.

[@zatcharyb3067]

I have one of these for SMB2 and can't replicate it but I know it's not a fever dream lol it happened when i was a kid and always stuck in my brain

[@Ducky27_]

@@zatcharyb3067 can you elaborate?

[@giantchicken2269]

@@zatcharyb3067 explain it

[@SB-ex8nt]

​@@athenarainesYou don't say...

[@cjr3985]

The opening sequence showing Abney's reaction to the new shortcut really set the tone for what was to come. Great video as always.

[@robertovillagran5364]

Such a genius way to tell the story

[@Smogshaik]

best Summoning Salt intro yet if you ask me

[@aptspikeybird1005]

The music also perfectly set the mood for his reaction and current situation

[@Bdxs33]

Abney did a sub 23 yesterday: 22:58.68 in a magnificent run The goat, simply

[@BamfIamone]

OH FUCK

[@fisico_rabudo]

WOW, watching history being made in real time is crazy

[@ashleyelizabeth6094]

At this point he is racing against his ghosts from earlier runs

[@Bdxs33]

​@@fisico_rabudoThat was absolutely incredible, I felt so lucky to see it live

[@Bdxs33]

​@DPH_PsychosisThanks mate !

[@The_Deep_Blue]

that beginning with abney's sarcasm about the guys discovery due so seeing so many beforehand slowly changing into absolute shock is absolutely priceless

[@zaboomawho]

yeah that shit was hilarious

[@rat4992]

It’s a great reaction. Abney is also very likable

[@thecluckster3908]

He was flabbergasted when he found out

[@DrGandW]

This is… an actual new shortcut… Lmao

[@cholobrown4588]

He blew the dude off like a POS till he saw the vid

[@Nougatbars]

I love how Garret was sitting on that Rainbow Road skip for *decades* because he thought the community knew already.

[@chickenswallow]

How many existing WRs are waiting to be beaten because of some guy remembering "yeah this skip I actually figured out on accident 25 years ago" 😂

[@scribeslendy595]

​@@chickenswallowthat's the best part about WRs: even if a game is decades old, all it takes is one person fucking around to completely mix up the speedrun

[@iaxacs3801]

@@chickenswallow "Oh yeah I did this when I was a Kid made this part of the game easier" Said thing saves 3 minutes

[@kaio0777]

@@scribeslendy595 well my boy fuck around and found out lol.

[@MattJDylan]

To this day, I'm still wondering if some of the glitches I used to use in super mario bros are some kind of speedrun strats... like, that one of clipping through the wall in the underground level, kid me used to do it just because it was fun 😂

[@5MadMovieMakers]

That last quote: "So instead of saying something silly, like I think it will be over very soon and it's been a crazy ride, I'm going to say that this game will never be over and the ride will only get crazier, and I am just participating in one small part of the middle of the ride and there are many talented people who helped build the ride before me and there'll be many talented people who help finish off the ride after me." - darbian 2016

[@tswan137]

So eloquent for being spoken in the moment. "...one small part in the middle of the ride" is such a powerful line. Carl Sagan-esque almost lmao Amazing.

[@SharmanDoom]

I miss darb, hope he's doing well whatever he's doing now.

[@mathprodigy]

That's one small step for Darb... one giant leap for Darbkind.

[@DekarNL]

Probably not true though

[@Yamomshouse69n]

@@DekarNLbe quiet

[@Graymalkinn]

Salts you got me so stressed and sympathetic for Abney. I didn't even know he existed till 35 minutes ago

[@isuck6049]

He got the wr again lol (sub 23 too) dont be stressed about it

[@alexsavajeomfg]

@@isuck6049 W

[@alexsavajeomfg]

man same

[@alexsavajeomfg]

@JohnRyiol Woah, sorry Mr Alpha Wolf.

[@anonymoushumankind]

@JohnRyiol Bro is not the alpha...

[@JLukeHypernova]

Abney is probably the most patient speedrunner out there. Always takes disappointment extremely well. That's why he's my favorite.

[@bolson42]

The little laugh of relief he does after each new record is nice to see lol

[@mopsnuf]

That sounds like an excellent quality to have when running this!

[@sgonzalez_guitarra]

You really need to have a strong control of your emotions to do something like this, it's quite inspirational

[@chesney1995]

@@bolson42 That little exhale he does every time he gets three reds when he needs it lol

[@hydropage2855]

I personally kinda despise Abney because of what he did to Mathias. Sure, he's good, but he clearly has no sense of honor

[@asdunlavey]

Getting namedropped in a Summoning Salt video title is an honour only previously given to Matt Turk. Congratulations, abney317!

[@parknplay8328]

I say Matthias Rustemeyer gets an honorary spot on the list because the only reason his name isn’t in the title is because it isn’t easily readable

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

​@@parknplay8328well more like he could never accomplish his goal and then he retired due to Mark(or whatever his name is)

[@Rocky712_]

@@parknplay8328 Is it really that hard to read? Even for native english speakers it shouldn´t be difficult.

[@Mysteryspy]

@@TheBluePhoenix008 Ya...Dan Burbank was his name, absolute scumbag.

[@ExpandDong420]

​@bleachboys3623 pics or it didn't happen

[@onlysmiles4949]

The fact that the Rainbow Road shortcut went undiscovered for over 2 decades because the guy who found it just assumed it was already known is nothing short of incredible Makes me wonder just how many other speedrunning discoveries are hidden in the same way

[@SushiElemental]

Yeah like did you guys know that you can backwards long-jump in Super Mario 64 to beat the game with only 50 stars? It's crazy!

[@FerousFolly]

I would assume it's actually quite common, the vast majority of any game's players are only vaguely aware of speedrunning, if at all, and of those who do find a skip accidentally I doubt most of them would think to check if it's a known skip, let alone seek out the community to ask

[@redundantfridge9764]

​@@FerousFollySomewhat reminds me of the Goldeneye 007 tactic that was accidentally discovered due to a misinterpretation of an existing strat. Because the man who discovered it barely spoke English, he thought you were supposed to look down while speed running certain maps. That specific strat is still in use today (as far as I know)

[@PoliPantev]

remind me when someone posted a strat for vice city in SEEMINGLY USELESS GLITCHES THREAD that basicly skipped the 2nd half of the game and was probably the biggest breakthrough in all 3d era gta games, cuting vice city eun in lenght by half, san andreas by around 2 hours

[@sephikong8323]

Plus it also makes a lot of sense why many of the people who may know about these and get into speed running wouldn't use it in their attempts or whatever when they start, like imagine you get into speedrunning and you see that nobody else uses the shortcut (that you know) and since you assume that they already know about it, you will probably rationalize that it's simply because it doesn't save time so they don't bother with it. Said that way, I'm sure there are quite a lot of discoveries that were missed just like that

[@vstriker4105]

It’s incredible how quickly this record is changing, just a month after this video releases, Abney gets a 22:58!

[@christhefish11]

YOOOOO THATS LIT!!!

[@Woahufoundme]

LETS GOOOOOOOO

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

Now that's poggers for real

[@MrPeach1998]

No way

[@Glitchedsquirtle]

LETS GOOO

[@brennanharris2702]

At 44:40 I could tell we were watching Kazuya’s run because his red shell setup looks different than Abney’s. That’s when I knew this video had me fully invested, lol!

[@austinfletchermusic]

The way he cuts so sharply inward, it's like watching an elite pitcher. No shame in being a Justin Verlander or Max Scherzer when the Shohei Ohtanis or the Corbin Burneses come along.

[@Hujyn100]

Was hoping someone else noticed that. It was an "oh shit" movement when I realized who it was.

[@curtbailey5610]

Haha I noticed that too. Even had to back up the video to double check.

[@stefandesu]

Same here lol

[@Guylan]

That Royal Raceway strat especially is a giveaway.

[@DonTinker]

I've never been so excited to watch a blue dot compete against a red dot in a game I barely play.

[@corneredconnection]

I feel this way with every summoning salt's vid like this XD

[@destructionman1]

And in most SS vids, it's a game I've never played. His storytelling skills are out of this world. People like him were the people entertaining us around the campfire 100k years ago.

[@jmej01]

first summoning salt video? /lh

[@rockmanfan5104]

Play some games

[@S2Pot_Gaming]

Seriously, I also get so exited watching the dots play limbo on a graph.

[@RvB_Fan_since_8]

2:40 His reaction to seeing a new shortcut in a game he’s put so much time into, it gave me chills.

[@mikeberg6407]

yea that was sooo good, especially since he seems so "whatever" when it was first said, you could tell its been a common thing that really hit different this time

[@aeterborne]

i wish i saw the chat here LMAO

[@HeartbrokenHeartshooter]

Imagine how alive it must make you feel to have someone take your record after 7 years, knowing that you can take it back if you work hard enough. To get to be the hunter instead of the hunted. It must feel like getting to discover speed-running all over again.

[@isuck6049]

And funnily enough he got it back after only 3 weeks when this video was uploaded

[@jordanphilipperris]

And I thought my beating the entire game, getting all gold for all the cups and cc engine speeds including of course mirror with my feat was impressive, and boy was mirror Toad's Turnpike a pain in the you know what with my feet.

[@Bismuth9]

As your archrival, I can attest that this video is Pretty Good. Also, what you chose to end the video on is absolutely perfect.

[@raynorzeraph953]

Shoot I gotta press A to like this comment.

[@vivas555]

THis is an amazing interaction

[@weebemo1]

This is the type of arch-rivalry I need in my life lol

[@jaythatguyyouknow5135]

The world needs more rivalries like this.

[@cerjmedia]

I was hoping you would leave a comment haha

[@mario199923]

My favorite thing about Salt's videos is he hooks you with what seems like a finale statement, but then you look and there's 30+ minutes of the video left

[@fosterdawson7339]

IKR

[@RetepAdam]

You could tell it was Kazuya because he does the Royal Raceway trick like an absolute maniac lol

[@ISesseriI]

That was one thing I noticed, the way he did the trick looked super cool, driving into it as it turns around to go the right way. Peak style for a trick in mario kart

[@fmkwvejf]

I had the exact same thought! Abney meets the shell head-on, while Kazuya does a huge hook. It looks way riskier but also super stylish how Kazuya does it.

[@alicepbg2042]

idk if it is, but it looks way harder to do than just running into it like abney does

[@Demicol]

I knew because of the difference in video quality

[@Roshake77]

Ikr xd

[@eboatwright_]

I swear, this guy could talk about the history of Post-It notes and find a way to make it dramatic & interesting

[@HongMiyo]

Post-It notes actually kinda do have a dramatic history....

[@MrJackHagan]

RetroAhoy and Summoning Salt are the absolute kings of video game documentaries.

[@eboatwright_]

​@@MrJackHagan 100% Lemmino also has a good one on Polybius

[@stykytte]

".. and that was how the note industry stood, untouched, until in 1973, Art Fry, Did this; " *HOME - We're finally landing drops*

[@eboatwright_]

@@stykytte _LOL_

[@monsterfurby]

The self-control abney displays in the face of frustration and bad luck is absolutely inspiring - as is the skill and dedication on display by every player here.

[@StarkRaven59]

I would imagine with how many runs these guys do, it would put you in an early grave to be high-strung about every run that seems positive.

[@sethmaster1012]

hope he gets the record back bc of it one day

[@isuck6049]

​@@sethmaster1012he could do it tbh, he just needs to beat this japanese who looks like from a jav video bruh, joking aside, it's between him and this japanese guy to get sub 23, and one lucky run could do it for him

[@victorywoo]

​@@isuck6049get off yo porn addiction 😭😭😭

[@nicolopedrielli]

@@sethmaster1012he did it! sub 23

[@moejoesayson1933]

Pretty sure I could show a Summoning Salt video to my grandma and she could get invested in the storytelling. Another banger

[@pat2rome]

Sometimes when I go to bed, I'll put on a long video I like but don't care about too much to half-listen to as I drift off. Once I made the mistake of thinking "I never got into Mega Man growing up, I'll watch the video about that" and of course in less than ten minutes I was fully awake and emotionally invested.

[@raichutoyou]

Lol right? Minute 1: Who's abney? Minute 40: KAZUYAAAAAAA!!!

[@isuck6049]

​@@raichutoyouabney got the wr again so 😁

[@mcfarvo]

Yeah, I don't watch speedrunners or do speedrunning myself, but somehow SS makes these documentaries that I'll at least listen to while I do work

[@andrewwolverton3762]

The look on his face going from sarcasm and pessimism to shock and wonder when he saw the viewers video was the best.

[@Smoove_J]

He really went on a journey there.

[@benayers8622]

loooool ikr i came to comment this too he didnt look happy at all lol 🤣🤣 thats the danger of being a 1 trick pony i suppose!

[@aclockworkeagle6429]

​@benayers8622 wouldn't exactly call him a one trick pony, he dominated the record for 5 years and held onto it for another 2 before kazuya managed to edge past. Man's a legend

[@Sady845]

Update: abney317 took the WR back a week ago with a time of 22:58. Yes, the first sub-23 minutes. What a legend.

[@feuerfaustace1able]

Unfortunately this is not enough for a follow up video. :(

[@Sady845]

@@feuerfaustace1able I never claimed this would be, there are much more speedrunning stories to tell than doing an update of an old subject

[@grantdavid9466]

Fúćk yeah Abney!!! By the ungodly rare chance you see this, I just want to say keep killing the competition man, even though I could never make the top 100 in the community, as a fellow American, I’m proud to call you my brother and I’m cheering and praying for you from the sidelines! Keep making us, and yourself proud, you got this! 🙏💯

[@PublicAtLarge]

22:55 as of September 3, 2024.

[@StrandedKnight84]

Abney is the GOAT, but what really stood out to me in this story is the determination of Kazuya. Here is a guy who didn't have nearly the skillset to challenge Abney initially, but decided to power through even if would take 50k attempts of a 20+ minute run. A true demonstration of perseverance.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

The Quest to Beat abney317

[@aaronkosharskyswhiteknight5224]

this is exactly why japans population is plummeting, dude should have been shooting his shot at 50k ladys instead 😎

[@philosophy_bot4171]

Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote: "If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid" ~ Epictetus

[@JJokerMoreau]

What's sad, I think, is abney actually has the driving skills. The reason he started getting beat was because the time skips removed large parts of the actual driving. In fact, what the poster fails to mention is that abney currently holds the title for the "No skips" run and has for years.

[@DisastrousIntentionally]

@@JJokerMoreau That's part of speedrunning though and is why multiple categories exist. Skips are a huge part and Abney seems to struggle with some of them compared to Kazuya.

[@Celestia282]

Summoning Salt is the only guy who can consistently get me to watch hour long videos about games I don't care about. Keep it up, man!

[@karlbradish6486]

Its quality over quantity!

[@unmemorablehero]

Yeah, similar to me. I don’t care about speed runs, like at all, yet here I am.

[@SnipiWolf]

Ho, it's been an hour, thanks for getting me know it. I guess it's a realy good vid when you don't even notice it's been an hour.

[@tails183]

However, that will still not make me watch sponsor segments.

[@bolson42]

@@tails183 That sponsor was actually really well done tho. Ik most people just skip without even watching a second but i went through it and thought it was good lol. Or maybe i’m just a corporate shill cuz i use opera gx myself lmao

[@MariktheGunslinger]

abney317's reaction to the new shortcut was like in a biopic when a historical figure does the big thing or makes the big discovery and some guy says something like "Is that really possible?" or "Is... is that right?"

[@fatfurie]

the bot above me stole your comment and chaged a couple words. it has a butt for a picture so its getting more likes

[@calebos268]

Abney just took back the record with a 22:58!!!

[@Latchback]

I'm glad they are still competing and lowering it. Fun stuff.

[@RyanL651]

What a rushhhh! Clutch!

[@ketch10]

profile picture brings back so many memories

[@randomtexanguy9563]

he's still holding on to it

[@BIadelores]

He still holds onto it. We're probably not breaking that one for a while.

[@desert123100]

It's sad that you can't experience your own videos like the rest of us because they are truly masterpieces.

[@HabibiArchive]

So real bro

[@Autonomous15]

Don't worry, I'm sure his ego is sky high now.

[@NavF1]

The fact we now know who abney317 is before watching the video is testament to what you've done for the speedrunning community ❤️

[@ssigeon]

hello there disappointed fernando

[@Mordecrox]

The Great Ones: Abney, Matt Turk, Slipperynip and Erotic Shivering King Banana

[@JoePCool14]

I didn't know Fernando Alonso was interested in Mario Kart speedrunning.

[@Pikaton659]

Why are we meant to know him? I was expecting this to be the username of Matthias, the guy who was the dominating player in the last Mario Kart 64 video, but it isn’t

[@rontheauraknight9606]

@@Pikaton659we know him if you watched the video that grew the biggest for Summoning Salt, the world record for Choco mountain. In that Abney became the star of the video as he went from an random person who was like ranked 50th to getting the first ever weathertenko, then later being the only person I think currently to hit that trick 3 times in an row. Since then he also appeared in the other MK64 videos such as the last one being where he and others were keeping Matthias from getting all 32 records in Mk64

[@PierceArner]

That final quote from Darbian was _SUCH_ a perfect way to cap off this video. Thanks again for such spectacular work!!

[@bowmin1]

I love how you don't throw everything at the viewer from the start. You introduce strategies mid-video, like the Kalimari Desert one at 21:30. You explain most of the big strategies in the run, but not all at once.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@sebastianahrens2385]

Funny how Abney was part of the Alliance to challenge Mathias, only to find himself in a similar position a few years later :D Edit: Also, why am I concerned about Abney's ability to keep going in spite of setbacks when I _know_ he's a guy willing to throw 26700 attempts at a single track?

[@smo-king6504]

Interesting that only now he starts talking about being on the other side of the dethroning

[@shooshiwhooshi8736]

44:30 The fact that I knew who broke their record based only on how they did the Royal Raceway skip is really cool

[@Ryan_Schlutz]

Same. SS tried to keep it secret but the angle K did it made it so unique.

[@StrandedKnight84]

I was waiting for that turn. Very characteristic.

[@SeppelSquirrel]

Same! I was like, wait, that's Kazuya's angle! I'm glad I wasn't the only person to notice.

[@ryanrech107]

Same. I was waiting the whole time to see how the skip was done and when I saw it I knew

[@callmeshaggy5166]

The looping left

[@PereQuisition]

The fact that "Ce_Mec" literally translates to "That guy" makes the sequence funnier than it actually is

[@pvince8723]

came to the comments to see if this was mentioned. Happy it was. Trop drôle

[@lol-bg4wh]

French two made me understand

[@silverreaps6803]

thats fucking hilarious

[@bicacti5808]

More like "That_Dude" but yeah pretty funny, even if he didn't end up being the dude to make it.

[@silverreaps6803]

@@bicacti5808 that dude and that guy literally mean the same thing

[@mphayes98]

After over 15 months of not holding the record, Abney crushed the record by almost 15 seconds on July 27th, 2023. It looks like his story isn't over yet

[@shedinyavi8233]

The summoning-salt-verse has gone for long enough to the point where Abney has gone from the hero who pulled off the first triple weathertenko, that lived for long enough to turn into the villain that prevented MR’s world record perfection on the no shortcuts category at several different times, to the protagonist of his own story in the full game run. Really speaks volumes about the quality of this channel.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

So This is The Quest to Beat abney317...

[@KyrosQuickfist]

Alternate Title: Two guys grind a Mario themed slot machine for a decade.

[@Arceusmemesidk-zk7tm]

This is a great analogy for rivalry speedrunning

[@dorianserrano2697]

I thought of it like that at first but it's more than that... all speedrunners have the same chance of getting the best seed via rng, but only the best player will be able to capitalize on it.

[@eviljesus84]

The problem with that analogy, is that whatever this 'slot machine' gives you, you still have to have the skills to use it properly. The best RNG won't help you, if you're a shit player.

[@Alfaomegabravo]

@@eviljesus84 The problem with the problem with that analogy is that the better players become the more RNG comes into play. We are not talking about random players here but the best of the best. If the players were able to perfectly execute every skip then there is only RNG left that decides the time.

[@eelamite]

holy shit thats probably the best comment under a summoning salt video in the past 5 years i've scrolled down to see

[@btj2642]

Abney knew something was up with that discovery when summoning salt's theme music started playing out of nowhere

[@SushiElemental]

The community was in remiss 🎶

[@paleoblue]

​@@SushiElemental there had never been a random discovery such as this 🎶

[@uninable]

@@paleoblue shoutouts to

[@18rocksthegames78]

It was his canon event

[@JLukeHypernova]

Especially at a higher pitch than normal

[@agrume_music]

Imagine if one day, a guy starts speedruning under the nickname of "YourMeat". Then trains for thousands of hours, give it all and challenge the whole world, just to see one day on KZbin a video from summoning salt called : "The quest to beat YourMeat"

[@ArseAllowance]

Thanks for giving me a goal in life, ill talk about you as my inspiration once i am on the throne

[@agrume_music]

@@ArseAllowance see you on his future videos champ !

[@zanly5039]

@@ArseAllowance i am also rooting for the rise of YourMeat (pun not intended)

[@ArseAllowance]

@@zanly5039 ill remember you once im at the top

[@Joshyboy225]

@@ArseAllowanceyou got this 🫡

[@havoc2864]

I was really rooting for Abney to keep the record and seeing luck be his demise over and over was heartbreaking

[@lebrinjims3580]

Yeah, but his safe play in his most recent world record run just to ensure that he got the record instead of pushing his limits was probably a mistake. Easy to say in hindsight, but he should’ve maximized the potential of the single run where everything did go his way, pushed it sub 23, and it would still be his

[@wingedbunny6211]

@@lebrinjims3580I disagree. In hindsight, we can say that sure, but what if he was risky and ended up making a mistake that cost him the run? Then we'd be saying he should have played it safe to ensure the world record.

[@lebrinjims3580]

@@wingedbunny6211 100% true. We’ll never know

[@splurgy.]

Isn’t Abney the guy that hordes his runs? Or is that someone else

[@wingedbunny6211]

@@splurgy. Pretty sure that was someone else -- Abney does most of his runs on livestream

[@2010AZ]

Referring to Bismuth as his archrival is top tier character development.

[@TheGrumpyHobo]

What's the history between salt and Bismuth? I know he also makes in depth history videos on games, but was there some actual rivalry between them?

[@kamikazemelon787]

based and science-pilled

[@andrerenault]

@@TheGrumpyHobo I don't think they have any beef. They go for different audiences; salt is more of a storyteller and Bismuth is more of a technical explainer.

[@alejandroo.2358]

haha that was pretty funny imo

[@frankstanley7079]

But their audiences are still related and I enjoy both of them a lot

[@HeeminGaminStation]

One thing I respect about Kazuya is the sheer confidence that he’s going to get the right item, Abney is staying out until he gets what he needs Kazuya says “wouldn’t it be better to be on my way to the trick?”

[@darkstuff6666]

Hmm

[@Vesdus]

The difference is abney is trying to get slight gains to consolidate his world record, and Kazuya is trying to demolish any of his previous attempts in order to take the world record even once. Simply because it had been several years since anyone had even come close to taking away the world record from abney. They have different mindsets and different goals for this reason.

[@T101Crazy]

@@Vesdus Yup. One is on the attack while the other plays defense.

[@grynch8673]

@@Vesdus reminds me of this quote about how a rabbit wants it more because it is running for its life when being hunted whereas the wolf is simply hunting for another meal. The rabbit wanted it more where it was common place for the wolf

[@mauer1]

also he seems to have better setups for the actual skips. in royal i basically knew if it was abney or kazuya based on how they approached the wall

[@simondewitt7161]

Clearly the other players who sent abney317 the new short cuts were just abney317 from the future in either a terminator or multiverse type scenario. Possibly a Bill and Ted...

[@luigi77714]

He started going so fast that he completed the run in negative time, going back to the past

[@celestialwaffle1491]

The fact that I felt like there were no villains in this video is a testimony to your storytelling.

[@Whyusomad9922]

rng was the villain

[@spazzygenius148]

@@Whyusomad9922 legit im at the point of begging for a TAS just to see the mechanical limit

[@Tassdo]

Salt did mention his arch-rival, Bismuth9. I volunteer him as the villain of the story :)

[@HalfOtaku]

@@Tassdo Next Video: The Quest to beat Bismuth9's video about Wallglitching

[@ariesdemiurge]

*Except DK.*

[@pptenshi3900]

Salt it’s actually indescribable what you’ve done for the speedrunning community

[@SEATACx]

Gentle shoutout to Karl Jobst as well

[@18rocksthegames78]

My only contribution is being last place up in Minecraft dungeons on day one of launch It was recorded on an iPad and I used my moms phone as the timer, 12 year old me was so projd

[@18rocksthegames78]

@@robot7935 update: since then 6 people have gotten lower scores

[@r1konTheAutomator]

I absolutely love how calm Abney is 😅 always like *whispers* "let's go" when he gets a WR, or if some bullshit happens he goes *whispers* "oh my god. Let's try again"

[@garfieldandfriends1]

have you watched his weathertenko attempt? 😂

[@r1konTheAutomator]

@@garfieldandfriends1 lol no! I didn't know he tried. Let me guess...he got it and went *whispers* "let's go" 😂

[@nekoplayz1501]

44:41 it's crazy how from being so invested in this video, you can already tell who's footage it was just from seeing how they did the raceway skip

[@reagansido5823]

The way that his mouth hangs open in shock when he realizes it's an actual new skip , you just know it's gonna be good.

[@stefandesu]

Yeah, it was a great way to get the viewers instantly invested!

[@Masterchief1856]

I loved that when he pulled it up, even before his mouth began hanging, you could see the cogs in his head turning. He was 100% ready to start using it as soon as he realized he could.

[@Curtissimo]

The fact that you do things like make freeze frames any time the lightning bolt was used to avoid the flashing lights shows the amount of skill and consideration you put into video editing. Another banger of a video, great job!

[@xXInfinityDiesXx]

Wow I didn't realize that! I noticed the video was off but just assumed it was the recording. That's so cool of him to edit those little details

[@Ishoam]

I just thought it was the game freezing for a second.

[@kindlin]

I had also been really confused by this. I thought I must be missing something, and I was. So that was an anti-epileptic thing? Looking it up, the lightning affect flashing is quite mild; the sky blinks once or twice. That would be quite frightening to have such few flash-like things be able to cause such a massive issue. I hope it would take severe epilepsy for that level of stimuli to take you out. Anime shows, game shows, casinos, and Vegas in general, would just all have to be the worst.

[@AnonymOus-ss9jj]

@@kindlin I'm not sure it was so much as to prevent epilepsy as it was to stop the video from being demonetized on the grounds of epilepsy.

[@dreckel6572]

and here i was wondering wether or not this was due to the game itself or abneys stream... I didnt even consider editing it to make the video more accessible

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

I love how SummoningSalt videos stay Trending for days on end after release. It's for good reason: The work and detail that goes into them is incredible. Well done, sir.

[@WLF0X]

Actually it's because the algo appeals to KZbin bottom-feeder degenerates 🤓☝

[@Etrelley]

@@WLF0X Well, since you're here, it definitly works :D

[@GnuSnu]

For years*

[@ladderking]

4 weeks after this video released, abney set a 22m 58s world record

[@cerjmedia]

49:48 is the most ridiculous bad RNG you could expect. Incredible that Forest and Garrett for finding these 3 massive skips.

[@jackmio]

bruh that RNG part had me dying of laughter because IT JUST KEPT HAPPENING LMFAO

[@razzdazzjazz]

I did the math, and for him to not get red shells 13 times in a row had about a 5.5% chance of happening. Super bad luck

[@Smoove_J]

I can't get over how much time they spend grinding out these world records. Sometimes I wonder what keeps them going.

[@tomuridev]

passion and love for the game. Speedrunning is a way to keep playing your favorite game

[@ltsJoeMama]

Its simple. What keeps them going is the quest to become the best. Its like in sports, people grind + train all day to get better and to become some of the very best to ever do it. Being known as one of the greatest in something you're passionate about is everything to some.

[@grayarystorjz35]

​@@10001000101seems legit

[@pariahlord3540]

Literally autism, you have to be on the spectrum to be into playing the exact same game thousands of times.

[@laurap3244]

Aderall and autism

[@TheEthanatorNetwork]

The indomitable human spirit at it again. These guys are seriously nuts for this continuous grind. Mad respect.

[@olivercharles2930]

indomitable cringe

[@ahall9839]

Indomitable human spirit = meek depressed autistic soys sitting in a dark room playing children's video game for most of their lives

[@YF-23_BLACK_WIDOW_ii]

​@@olivercharles2930L+ratio

[@NbNgMOD]

​@olivercharles2930 L clown

[@SeanGrady90]

Massive respect to the speed running community. How do these dudes have not only the skill but the endless energy and free time to put towards this? I’m in awe. Life is so exhausting. To have that level of focus and patience is something else. Love these vids!

[@Scrimsion]

Seeing abneys total domination of this game is honestly awe inspiring

[@CowMaam]

the sequel we didn’t deserve but will gladly take

[@consumify]

Cow man

[@TheKingOfAllHorror]

You're right, we deserved better.

[@LazerN_]

Cow Man!

[@bargaintuesday812]

Why didn't we deserve it?

[@kennethlasseter9264]

@@bargaintuesday812 its just an unoriginal comment. give a little thumbs up and move on.

[@chrispyvolterra]

When you showed the apirl 2022 run trying not to disclose who had gotten it early I still knew it was Kazuya because his red shell skip set up in royal raceway is slightly different than abney's

[@ChristmasMeat]

I've never watched a Mario karr speedrun before. At that point it was obvious, kazuya's technique has a very specific style comparatively.

[@beardalaxy]

yup that's what i noticed haha, as soon as SS started that clip i was like "i'm just gonna look at the royal raceway red shell method" xD

[@TheRealChristopherB]

I could also tell from comparing Abney and Kazuya's game captures. Kazuya's game is a bit more muted color-wise in comparison to Abney's. Still did a pretty good job for the layman, who don't pay close attention the different set ups of different runners or a slight differences in video quality.

[@NTrophy-]

As of 4 days ago, Abney317 is back in first with a 22:58:68 with a 15 second lead.

[@BrodyMK64]

I was lucky enough to meet Forest at this year's PA Meet. Was truly remarkable hearing first hand accounts from him just across the table from me. An absolute legend!

[@mrblubot987]

Abney’s reaction to the new shortcut gave me goosebumps. It was like his mind immediately saw all the potential new PRs

[@DJHazeJams]

Kazuya has just hit a world record of 23:13.35 since this video released. Legend

[@jeredgibb5064]

The fact it's stated that a sub 23 is possible and it still hasn't happened is probably the cherry on top

[@DragoReborn7]

The saga continues

[@Cap-ig6rh]

Please update me whenever a new world record is set 🙏

[@midnightblitzer]

:0

[@JohnFartblast]

update when sub 23

[@GabeNorthrop]

As of yesterday, abney has the new world record of 22m 57s!!

[@stormix5755]

The dopamine hit from a Summoning Salt video is unmatched! Also Abney is one of my favorite runners. Still remember the triple weather-tanko

[@darthkarl99]

I'll admit i too felt a bit bad for abney, but at the same time glad for Kazuya. I honestly get the feeling from this video that they're probably both at a similar skill level, (in different ways), and who has the lowest time is really a matter of RNG and attempt numbers at this point.

[@juniperrodley9843]

The ability of some speedrunners to keep going is truly incredible. Just the thought of seeing a >30 second lead on the standing WR evaporate from bad luck alone is crushing to me.

[@mouse_cop]

Never forget that none of this would have been possible without the help of forest64

[@ThaRixer]

Wow, seriously some of your best writing yet man. This was a really great story and I love the message at the end too - The feeling of losing a record is always rough, and isn't talked about enough. You did everyone here justice, phenomenal video man. Big ups to the runners you chose to cover too. I don't know if I know someone who has over 70.000+ attempts in a single category.. MK64 runners are super dedicated, much respect

[@J3tAlone]

Aye it's Ricky! Grats on the recent banger to you too my guy. I've probably watched all of your Jak and RAC videos like 5 times each.

[@chvIry]

Here before pin

[@zeefje]

😢

[@jasonhunter2819]

Well, that certainly was a hell of a hook, having the actual footage of him reacting to the first new skip being discovered!

[@shakie6074]

love that we are in an era where these kind of discoveries are literally recorded IRL. so goddamn cool

[@acino4417]

So in 2019, I went and saw a DJ live, his name was GJones at The Fillmore in Denver, CO. Right before his set started. He brought out Abney to play mario kart live on stage, and GJones was remixing the audio from the game. Funny ass thing to happen

[@bmardiney]

At 29:50, my mind filled in the rest of the sentence as “there was one thing he could do…Abny decided to hunt down and execute his competitors…”

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

ok

[@inamecomeunico8935]

Same thing lmao

[@kindlin]

Lol what is that a reference to?

[@bmardiney]

@@kindlin My own twisted mind. I don't know, just something about SummonSalt's delivery of that sentence seemed to be setting up something very funny for me.

[@JTBringe]

Murder might be an efficient way of protecting your world record, but it certainly wouldn't contribute to a better sense of community in the MK64 speedrunning scene.

[@ReddestRosa]

Much like a certain character he resembles, Abney is a force of nature. Grass grows, birds fly, and brother? He breaks records.

[@daxter69420]

Basically kind of a big deal

[@leosage]

its crazy how summoning salt can make videos about games i have no interest in and keep me entertained for an hour.

[@John_Doe4269]

I showed this to a friend of mine who's not really into videogames, let alone speedrunning. However, even he had fond memories of this from back in the day. Needless to say, our jaws dropped when the two time skips appeared. What a ride. Love your content, keep up the great work!

[@Quickhand413]

41:05 Yo that blue shell hop was straight fire bro. Dunno if he gets the WR yet but he's a legend for making that look clean.

[@gabrielm598]

1st place getting hit by 3 lightning bolts and 4 blue shells on Royal raceway: “I’m beginning to think I’m not cut out for being a protagonist”

[@ryanevans8002]

this is outstanding. i stumbled onto Abney's stream a few years back and thought it was cool and kept watching now and again, but knowing this full context and story makes it all so much cooler. thanks a ton for this work, and for helping me enjoy speedrunning even more.

[@crazyjaybe]

30:05 "Archrival, Bismuth"

[@Aquylion5555]

The final message of the video is what makes your channel so important. Thank you for creating the place for people in the middle of the ride to shine again and not be forgotten. Really, thank you.

[@dannthegentleman4261]

The final got me so emotional. This is probably one of the best videos this channel has produced.

[@vappycat]

I think it's universal: when Summoning Salt publishes a video, everyone drops what they're doing and watches. Really brings us all together.

[@Quidditchgoat]

❤ let’s go

[@ChrisLT]

10k views in 10 minutes, oh lordy.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

I know I do, and I'm working right now. XD

[@PresidentScrooge]

The best part is how casual Forest64 was about the discovery. He couldve easily cashed in on it by posting a youtube video, etc. But he just knew his own record will be beat so he just went to Abney "hey, new cut for you"

[@Jack-496]

I love the fact that Kalimari Desert is on the thumbnail. It’s really not the most central track to the story, obviously not. Tracks like Royal Raceway and Rainbow Road, or even Mario Raceway are more significant. Kalimari Desert still has important tech, but with it being Abney’s course it makes perfect sense. It gives the feeling that no one track is above all others in importance, and really symbolizes the people who make it possible and the fact that speedrunning is about a long journey as much as it is crazy time saves. I’m probably thinking too much into it, but it’s a perfect choice in my opinion. It symbolizes the beauty of this classic.

[@reidleblanc3140]

Stop by Abney's streams and you'll see just how much of a run killer KD actually is haha. We spend a looooooot of time there.

[@Jack-496]

@@reidleblanc3140 I think I will man! I’ve been interested in the scene for months now.

[@LavosTheOneEyedTick]

It feels like a birthday gift whenever you drop a video. The perfect blend of entertaining storytelling & informative deep-dives into speedrunning lore, and of course, always paired with that iconic music. Never stop doing what you do!

[@willlllllllb]

you know this video is boutta be LEGENDARY, maybe even rivaling the quest to beat Matt Turk

[@McJethroPovTee]

Just hope nobody hoards records again, like a certain unsportsmanlike douche, who's in it for the record and not the competition.

[@cesarlemos1337]

I mean, Matt Turk wrote the directions to beat himself in the game and it took nearly a decade of very skilled players to first believe him, then to surpass him.

[@Cahrssomething]

HOLY- That was the fastest 55 minutes of my life! I thought this was just a quick 15 minute video unlike summoning’s other videos, looks like i was wrong! Just proves how entertaining you are, being able to make me glued to the screen for an hour without realizing!

[@reidleblanc3140]

forest gets more funny the more I see him in the wild. From the very get-go he was doing shenanigans. Love it.

[@justindeguzman9820]

Abney going from like the 30th ranked player to absolute domination on the leaderboards as number 1 is so inspiring. Shows hard work really pays off!

[@RealFilmOfficial]

I always loved prospects of "this incredible skip was always there and known of , everyone just kinda forgot", makes the human element shine through the TAS-like grinds

[@TKCEDM]

It's unbelievable how amazing story telling can make you invested in a topic you know little about and will likely have zero interest in after the video is over. Fantastic work.

[@M3XYPZ]

It would be sick to have a vid about the longest held records in speed running, this legacy shit always gets me man, great vid

[@chrisfrank5493]

SS has such an impact on the speedrunning pastime that it's almost a monumental achievement to be featured in his videos. Congrats to Abney for actually being the entire focus of a video SS put months of hard work, research, and dedication into. No matter how long it takes SS to make a video about any given speed run game or topic, best believe I'll be right there to watch it a day or less after the release. Thank you SummoningSalt. I wish all content creators could create videos as indepth, grasping, researched, and simply amazing watches as you. KZbin would be much more of a profound place if we had more people like you here.

[@tecklepheonix6344]

This has been an absolutely astounding watch, I’ve subscribed and I really like to see when communities have insane moments to witness. In the present, it feels like the most epic thing you’ve witnessed and when the time passes, it’s gone in the wind.

[@talkingben5190]

I would normally be asleep at this time since it's 2am but I'm feeling unwell, however because of that I was able to see the sub 23 record by Abney. God is great

[@keeganz891]

Your videos are so incredibly good. I hope you don’t take this as an insult, but I can’t fall asleep to anything else. I’ve watched every video hundreds of times because of this.

[@LuccatielD7]

Glad to know I’m not the only one falling asleep to these.

[@bugweasel]

with 1000s upon 1000s of runs by multiple runners, it amazes me how you manage to rangle up the best vids to tell the narrative. Quality work as ever!

[@OrangeDied]

he doesn't just summon salt, he summons the attention of millions whenever he uploads

[@Skoopyghost]

In a Niche nerd topic, and this is coming from the Sci Fi Novel nerd.

[@AustenHilton]

​@@Skoopyghostokay and?

[@floppa_gamer1111]

yes

[@bellhop_phantom]

​@@Skoopyghostyou also clicked on this video, nerd

[@michaelmcgee2026]

​@@Skoopyghostwhat a bizarre and irrelevant statement