The Qur’an isn’t from Mecca?!? - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay - Episode 52

[@123dsj123]

There are many, many ancient maps on which there are many, many ancient cities. Therefore, it should not be difficult for Muslims to find one ancient map that dates before the 10th century A.D. that has the City of Mecca on it. * Imagine Mecca - the first city on earth, the original home of 90-feet tall Adam and Eve (according to the “Standard Islamic Narratives”). And yet, no military conqueror, no empire, no civilization, and no human being heard about it until well past the 10th century A.D.

[@almazchati4178]

Eve is not mentioned in Quran, and Adam refers to generic human beings. 90-feet tall Adam would not be unusual given the size of dinosaurs, but such stories are usually sourced from Judea/Christian sources brought by Judea/Christian converts.

[@elishchayil2023]

“Eve” is not written in Qur’an al-lah or the book of sky cannot name the wife of the first human but tells to women on the earth that al-lah the all-knowing teaches how to honor women from the (unnamed or unknown) Mother of All Women. Eve in Hebrew חַוָּה Chavah / Havah means to give life, to live, to breath) Eve - Living

[@almazchati4178]

By the way, it is not unusual for people to be 90 feet. Probably these huge people consumed huge dinosaurs, and they became extinct together. David wrestled with Yahuwwa, right? Was he a midget? Can't be. Possibly he was 500 feet or so, he was more knowledgeable than Adam. How long do you think he lived? If Noah lived 950 years, he should have lived may be 200 years with better health care.

[@justinstumpf4243]

The Bible never said Adam was a giant the only giants were the Nephilim that were offspring of angels breeding with humans. Most were killed during the flood, but it seems God used David to finish off that line as they were still remnants in the Caananite tribes.

[@almazchati4178]

@@elishchayil2023 Himm, where did you learn all this stuff? Can't your God, whoever he was at the time of creation, create more than just one measly human and create his wife from his rib? Sounds like magic show. What was his name Baal, Al, YHWX, Osiris, Zeus, Spirit. Word. I got all this info from Yesus, who is Zeus in Aramaic

[@nsp74]

salute to these two courageous soldiers of Christ!

[@easutube]

Your cult is just as much of a lie as there's ... arrogant self-righteous trash! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4rUoYmXhZilsMU

[@marcelalhind]

​@@defenderoftruth3212 I have urine of Muhammad in a botle. Urine of Muhammad is stronger than Islamic allah. Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti reports from Tabarani and Bayhaqi who narrate from Hukaymah bint Umaymah (May Allah be pleased with her) with an authentic chain of transmission, she said, ‘the Prophet (May Allah shower peace and blessings on Him) had a wooden bowl in which He used to urinate and was placed under His bed. One night, He searched for it but did not find it and asked for it saying, ‘where is the bowl?’ The members of the house replied ‘Umm Salamah’s slave girl Barrah drank from it’ who came from Habashah with her. The Prophet replied, ‘surely she has protected herself from the hellfire with a great wall’’’.

[@rrnonya5472]

I have enjoyed and learned much from this series... The koran is BS... total BS... a lie from the word pbuh...

[@Kalle-z1o]

How isnt this bygger news ? This changes everything. If mekka is a liye, saudi Arabia has to come front and apoligize to all muslims because they deccived them

[@peterjackson2625]

Saudi Arabia is not going to declare that Mecca is nothing but a fraud. They make too much money from the gullible Muslim "pilgrims", including £20 a bottle for desalinated sea water, labelled as miraculous ZamZam well.

[@peterjackson2625]

Saudi Arabia deceives all the Muslims "pilgrims". Mecca was an unknown spot in an arid desert and not on any ancient maps. It exists today only because it has desalinated Red Sea water in vast quantities. The Muslim pilgrims are being ripped off by the Saudi princes.

[@JohnSmith-zs1bf]

the deception of islam wasn't an accident. it's intentional.

[@francescadraghi5041]

Loro conoscono la verità. Maometto fu manipolato su ordine della Chiesa Cattolica per scopi espansionistici con l'aiuto di una suora araba e suo cugino.

[@hamedihalmi8036]

The true deception is from Christian which they claimed that jesus is god and to be worshipped but jesus himself never claim to be god as proved in John 17:3 and 5:30

[@Yahshua_is_Yahweh]

Different Version of Arabic Quran 1. Hafs - 92% acceptance 2. Warsh - 4% acceptance 3. Ad Dury (alkisa'i) - 2% acceptance 4. Qalun - 1% acceptance 5. Hisham - 1% acceptance 6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) 7. Al Laith 8. Al Bazzi 9. Al Azraq 10. As Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) 11. Idrees 12. Ibn shanboodh 13. Al Asbahaani 14. Khaled 15. Ibn Dhakwan 16. Isa BinWardan 17. Sulayman 18. Ibn Jammaz 19. Ahmad bin Farah 20. Qunbul 21. Showba 22. Ruwais 23. Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi 24. Abu Amro Al - Ala 25. As Susi (ibn-katheer) 26. Ruh 27. Al Dury (Al Hasan AlBasri) 28. Hafs Al - Dury (ibn kathir) 29. Khalf 30. Ishaq 31. Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l 32. Abu - Farah Al Shan - budhi 33. Ibn Masud QUR'AN 34. Ubai kab QUR'AN 35. Ruh QUR'AN 36. Abu Musa QUR'AN 37. Hafs QUR'AN 1982 edition 38. Ibn Abbas QUR'AN 39. Topkapi Qur'an 40. Samarkand Kufic Qur'an

[@BlodigTampong]

Moreover, none of these are the original. Without the original Quran it is impossible to know what it said or what language it was written in. We only have assumptions about it.

[@sattaurnikki]

And yet the say, the quran is from Allah and cannot be changed! So how come there are so many versions?? 😨😰

[@sattaurnikki]

​@@BlodigTampongIslam is a cult from satan.

[@lokisg3]

Muslim: uhh... There one Allah in each quran. Yeah, that's it! Many Allah but he is all powerful and mighty that he create himself many times for each version! *Short silent* Don't believe thr infedal!!

[@CHYIM-tx5oh]

​@@lokisg3I think it's because he created himself from the sweat of horses😂😂😂. Christian Prince is exposing this cult of Mohamed

[@srv1704]

Al Fadi and Dr Jay need to write a book with all this information in it,best seller! This is my daily classroom.

[@pmoran7971]

Yes Mecca was not on any Roman maps, because it was not a trade route, but far more sensible is to ask the question, why is there no archaeological evidence for a large city at that time in history? however the Saudi's already realised this is a problem, so covered the city with concrete, to hide the nonexistence of evidence, and for good reason, religious tourism brings in a fortune for the Saudi's, so in conclusion, there will be no excavation of Mecca, in the future

[@FollowerofJesusChristofNazaret]

I agree. Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 makes billions of dollars 💵 from tourism every year. They are not going to expose the biggest scam of all times. No body kills their cash cow 🐄

[@FollowerofJesusChristofNazaret]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Let’s explore the archaeological evidence related to Jerusalem, Jesus Christ’s visited places, and scientific perspectives on His existence: * Archaeological Evidence of Jerusalem: * Jerusalem, a city with a rich history, has been extensively studied by archaeologists. While direct evidence of Jesus’s presence in Jerusalem is scarce, several significant discoveries shed light on the city’s ancient past. * The Pool of Bethesda: According to the Gospel of John, Jesus healed a paralyzed man at the Pool of Bethesda. Archaeologists have discovered the remains of this ritual pool surrounded by five colonnades in Jerusalem, providing evidence for its existence1. * Pilate’s Boulevard: Archaeologists have uncovered a 2,000-foot-long boulevard built by Pontius Pilate. This street likely connected the Pool of Siloam to the Temple Mount, a holy place where ancient Jewish pilgrims worshiped2. * Jesus’s Visited Places: * While direct evidence of Jesus’s visits is challenging to find, some sites are associated with His life: * Nazareth: Jesus’s childhood home was Nazareth. Archaeological digs in Nazareth have revealed insights into the lifestyle of people during that time, including the type of homes and possessions they had3. * Dalmanutha: The Bible mentions Jesus visiting Dalmanutha. Archaeological findings suggest that Dalmanutha was a wealthy fishing town where Jews and pagans coexisted4. * Artifacts and Relics: * James’s Ossuary: James, Jesus’s brother, was buried in an ossuary engraved with “James, son of Joseph” and the unusual addition, “brother of Jesus.” While debated, this ossuary provides a glimpse into James’s life3. * John the Baptist’s Remains: John the Baptist’s bones were discovered in a Bulgarian church. Radiocarbon testing indicates that they date back to the time of Christ, corroborating his historical existence3. * Biblical Artifacts: The Bible Lands Museum in Jerusalem houses artifacts related to biblical events, including scenes like Abraham’s near sacrifice of Isaac and Jesus’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem5. * Scientific Perspectives on Jesus’s Existence: * While faith plays a significant role in believing Jesus’s divinity, historical evidence is limited. * Josephus: The Jewish historian Josephus mentioned Jesus in his writings, providing an external reference to His existence. * Tacitus: The Roman historian Tacitus also mentioned Jesus in his work, acknowledging His crucifixion under Pontius Pilate. * However, there is no definitive physical or archaeological proof of Jesus’s existence that would satisfy all skeptics6. In summary, while archaeological evidence provides glimpses into the past, faith and historical accounts remain central to the belief in Jesus Christ. His impact on history and culture transcends the physical artifacts we discover.

[@FollowerofJesusChristofNazaret]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Let’s explore the archaeological evidence related to Jerusalem, Jesus Christ’s visited places, and scientific perspectives on His existence: * Archaeological Evidence of Jerusalem: * Jerusalem, a city with a rich history, has been extensively studied by archaeologists. While direct evidence of Jesus’s presence in Jerusalem is scarce, several significant discoveries shed light on the city’s ancient past. * The Pool of Bethesda: According to the Gospel of John, Jesus healed a paralyzed man at the Pool of Bethesda. Archaeologists have discovered the remains of this ritual pool surrounded by five colonnades in Jerusalem, providing evidence for its existence1. * Pilate’s Boulevard: Archaeologists have uncovered a 2,000-foot-long boulevard built by Pontius Pilate. This street likely connected the Pool of Siloam to the Temple Mount, a holy place where ancient Jewish pilgrims worshiped2. * Jesus’s Visited Places: * While direct evidence of Jesus’s visits is challenging to find, some sites are associated with His life: * Nazareth: Jesus’s childhood home was Nazareth. Archaeological digs in Nazareth have revealed insights into the lifestyle of people during that time, including the type of homes and possessions they had3. * Dalmanutha: The Bible mentions Jesus visiting Dalmanutha. Archaeological findings suggest that Dalmanutha was a wealthy fishing town where Jews and pagans coexisted4. * Artifacts and Relics: * James’s Ossuary: James, Jesus’s brother, was buried in an ossuary engraved with “James, son of Joseph” and the unusual addition, “brother of Jesus.” While debated, this ossuary provides a glimpse into James’s life3. * John the Baptist’s Remains: John the Baptist’s bones were discovered in a Bulgarian church. Radiocarbon testing indicates that they date back to the time of Christ, corroborating his historical existence3. * Biblical Artifacts: The Bible Lands Museum in Jerusalem houses artifacts related to biblical events, including scenes like Abraham’s near sacrifice of Isaac and Jesus’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem5. * Scientific Perspectives on Jesus’s Existence: * While faith plays a significant role in believing Jesus’s divinity, historical evidence is limited. * Josephus: The Jewish historian Josephus mentioned Jesus in his writings, providing an external reference to His existence. * Tacitus: The Roman historian Tacitus also mentioned Jesus in his work, acknowledging His crucifixion under Pontius Pilate. * However, there is no definitive physical or archaeological proof of Jesus’s existence that would satisfy all skeptics. Read the Bible , In it, you will find the word of life!!! Jesus Christ of Nazareth is calling you to come back Home!!!

[@FollowerofJesusChristofNazaret]

The Son of God Jesus Christ has risen from the dead and His tomb is empty!!! He will come again in the day of Judgement, to judge the World, He created with Father and the Holy Spirit in one ☝️ Essence. Amen 🙏🏾

[@fantasia55]

Muslims claim Mecca was on several trade routes.

[@casta9172]

Thank you for mentioning Jesus at the end of the video because that's the most important

[@casta9172]

@@defenderoftruth3212 blasphemous statement,, you need to repent before it's too late for you

[@blusky7]

Thank you, Al Fadi for your ministry!

[@d-force9155]

Without lies, Islam is fried

[@Dr.lukwagoAsuman]

All religions are based on abstract information, which is as good as lies if well critiqued. E. g Jesus Christ, who's God pray to God/Father during crucifixion!!! Then, this is defended. True God is very misrepresented in all religions, but God is either tolerant to our mistakes or he recognises our limits on understanding him.

[@ericnjuguna8546]

Even with lies , ISLIES remains fried

[@mazbrow2692]

Without dogma Christianity is not a religion

[@ericnjuguna8546]

@@defenderoftruth3212 as long as you believe in ISLIES my brother you already in hell. The fire is burning in your heart. Your body will just join it soon. You are dead without Messiah. Jump, sing cry but you dead..

[@Satanreincarnation-zg6sl]

@@Dr.lukwagoAsuman, yap! There isn’t anything that it either good or bad but a time and place for each and every behavior. All we need to do is respect and use nature and not abuse our rights.

[@Harbringe]

There about 10 years ago there was a collapse of the ground in front of one of the buildings in Petra. No one knew their were chambers below the ground. Suddenly the UN under its heritage mandate rushed in and closed the whole site of Petra down , months later reopened and no mention of what they found. And who paid for that the Saudi royal family. They covered it up and made it look like there was nothing to see. Many scholars claim Petra is the true Mecca and I think the Saudis know it. So does the UN but to tell the truth would destroy Islam.

[@mysotiras21]

Disturbing!

[@mutekhele5783]

Islam is a scam of the centuries.

[@graton85dvd]

I think it is too.

[@davidbyron6981]

So would they all be in you trouble for praying in the wrong direction

[@aaronkristo858]

The qibla walls of all the earliest mosques face Petra, not Jerusalem or Mecca.

[@melchiormapa3597]

Bakka should be Hebrew during the first Temple period in jerusalem. While Mecca is sanitized 1000+yrs later. Among the historically cities of the ancient empires written in the Bible Mecca wasn't one of them. Its an imaginary ancient city.

[@Rockin233]

I'm Ex Muslim guy... I think I am future Christian

[@sreed7637]

❤

[@RR-wd1do]

That's great! Do u have a BIBLE??Read 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

[@TheLionFarm]

Best do

[@bankubanga789]

Amen come in brother!!!

[@bankubanga789]

If u need a good place to learn and ex question specially regarding the Bible. You should follow "This AssyrianGuy","God Logic", and most Def my top favorite "Radar Apologetics",who gives detail and goes over the OT in collaboration with New Testament. I've heard there is another page too called Bible project I believe who takes baby steps in teaching the gospel

[@passion4nation]

Brothers and sisters please share these videos to your friends and family church members.. It must reach end of the world 🌏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[@maniemeyer8504]

Please share❤❤please share Christians

[@videolover1489]

You know brother that if you dig at Christianity then you will find a hole too. All Abraham religions are same. Some Abraham got reformed and other don't. If you compare all Abraham religion with its origins source then you will find a somewhat same problem.

[@ethercruiser1537]

Amazing information 👍

[@KonstantinosPhillippikos]

Mecca didn't exist back then. Muslims started to gain power invading Damascus and then Egypt

[@RingJando]

Brilliantly organized for educational immersion - thank you brothers

[@Max25202]

Hello! I would like to learn about the books that Mr. Jay and Al-Fadi discussed in their videos. Please write down these books; I want to buy them.

[@maxschon7709]

I would Like If they do a "Advertisement" on the end of the Video by showing the Book used in the video.

[@tomtaylor6163]

Thank you for exposing this fact. I never knew about this until I started watching you guys. If this place was important the Cultures would have known about it. Certainly the Byzantines

[@casta9172]

Me too,, I just learned all of these true facts

[@kaloarepo288]

And especially the Abyssinians or Ethiopians who lived just across the Red Sea and had been Christians from the late 300's .

[@MrMazin2]

Good job brothers. By the way, would you know if Madina (Yathrib) is ever mentioned in the Quran?

[@UlugbekAzimov-n4b]

Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

[@davidtaylor2811]

Check out the film The Sacred City it exposes the problematics about the identification of Mecca

[@danieladedosugbadero7373]

The sane world can no longer, in good conscience, continue to ignore the seminal work of Jay Smith and his team regarding the origin of Islam and Quran in a city that was not in the seventh century.

[@sunrays472]

For the, intelligent, educated and honest people to know the truth,they should find answers to the following questions and try to understand what the secular scholars have to say about it: 1. How many centuries after the death of the Prophet the Quran was written down and how many Qurans were in circulation before it was standardized?...Where isthe real quran now? 2. Were the contents of the Quran copied from any other ancient texts? (Christian, Jewish, Pagan, local myths and fables etc.) 3. Was there one or more than one Mecca? and where is the real Mecca? 4. What is the truth behind the Zam Zam well? 5. What is the real history of kaba? How many kabas were there in existence and where is the oldest one and who built it? 6. Do history, archeology, and science support the claims of Islam? 7. What is satanic verses and why is it important for the understanding of Islam? 8. 'Without lies, ...... dies' - about which religion it is said and why? 9. One of the major functions of a Prophet is to prophecy. What are the prophecies by 'Prophet' Mohammed and what are the ones that were really fulfilled? And What is the real name of Prophet Mohammed and what does it mean? 10. Are Muslims really the descendants of Abraham and if not, who really are they and what history says about it? 11. Who are the members of trinity? 'Father, Son and the Holy Spirit' or 'God, Jesus, and Mary', as 'revealed' to Prophet Mohammed by Allah, recorded in the Quran, and believed by the Muslims? 12. What about Prophet Mohammed 's flying visit to the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Did he really visit the temple and what is the evidence for it? 13. What are the contrbutions made by Christians, jews and others vs. Muslims, for the benefit of mankind? 14. Is there any difference between a Muslim with exposure to western ideas, thoughts and education and one without any exposure to the same? If there is any difference, what is the reason for the difference and what is the basis for the western thoughts, educaton etc. that makes the difference? 15. I am giving below the names of the founders of modern religions and also some positive and negative human traits. You decide for yourself who is the person who has all the negative traits and who's the person who has all the positive traits: a) Founders of modern religions: Gowthama Budha, Mahaveer Jain, Zorastar, Jesus Christ, Mohammed Nabi and Guru Nanak. b) Negative traits: Hatred, fanaticism, religious intolerance, violence, mass murder, womanizing, pedophilia, cunningness, coveteousness, mental imbalance, suicidal tendencies, dacoity, slave trading, ruthlessness, lieing, cunningness and deception. C) Positive traits: Love, care, compassion, peace, sacrifice, forgiveness, reconciliation, positivity, openness, truthfulness, inclusiveness and honesty. 16. What is the history of the black stone and where was it before being placed in the quoba? 17. Who is Al Qudam and what does the name mean? 18. What is the a) Number of wars waged and the people killed by the P...t. b) What is the number of decoities committed by him. C) the number of sex slaves owned by him and d) the number of wives he married? 19. Is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the God of Prophet Mohammed and the Muslims (Allah) the same? If not, who is Allah and what is his origin? 20. How a religion that was started in Arabia, claims the God of the Jews, their scriptures, their prophets, their teachings, their way of life, their land, their doctrine, and their Holy places as its own? And what happened to the Jews, Christians, and the Pagans, the sons of the soil in the 6th century middle east, and who occupies their land now? 21. How did P...t M....d die? Who killed him and why? Note: Watch channels like cira international, harris sulthan, Asli nabi, pfander,CP etc for enlightenment. Everyone has the right to believe or not to believe anything he or she wants But see to it that no one fools you in the name of religion and brainwash you to hate/harm your fellow humans.For the, intelligent, educated and honest people to know the truth,they should find answers to the following questions and try to understand what the secular scholars and researchers have to say about it 1. How many centuries after the death of the Prophet the Quran was written down and how many Qurans were in circulation before it was standardized?...Where isthe real quran now? 2. Were the contents of the Quran copied from any other ancient texts? (Christian, Jewish, Pagan, local myths and fables etc.) 3. Was there one or more than one Mecca? and where is the real Mecca? 4. What is the truth behind the Zam Zam well? 5. What is the real history of kaba? How many kabas were there in existence and where is the oldest one and who built it? 6. Do history, archeology, and science support the claims of Islam? 7. What is satanic verses and why is it important for the understanding of Islam? 8. 'Without lies, ...... dies' - about which religion it is said and why? 9. One of the major functions of a Prophet is to prophecy. What are the prophecies by 'Prophet' Mohammed and what are the ones that were really fulfilled? And What is the real name of Prophet Mohammed and what does it mean? 10. Are Muslims really the descendants of Abraham and if not, who really are they and what history says about it? 11. Who are the members of trinity? 'Father, Son and the Holy Spirit' or 'God, Jesus, and Mary', as 'revealed' to Prophet Mohammed by Allah, recorded in the Quran, and believed by the Muslims? 12. What about Prophet Mohammed 's flying visit to the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Did he really visit the temple and what is the evidence for it? 13. What are the contrbutions made by Christians, jews and others vs. Muslims, for the benefit of mankind? 14. Is there any difference between a Muslim with exposure to western ideas, thoughts and education and one without any exposure to the same? If there is any difference, what is the reason for the difference and what is the basis for the western thoughts, educaton etc. that makes the difference? 15. I am giving below the names of the founders of modern religions and also some positive and negative human traits. You decide for yourself who is the person who has all the negative traits and who's the person who has all the positive traits: a) Founders of modern religions: Gowthama Budha, Mahaveer Jain, Zorastar, Jesus Christ, Mohammed Nabi and Guru Nanak. b) Negative traits: Hatred, fanaticism, religious intolerance, violence, mass murder, womanizing, pedophilia, cunningness, coveteousness, mental imbalance, suicidal tendencies, dacoity, slave trading, ruthlessness, lieing, cunningness and deception. C) Positive traits: Love, care, compassion, peace, sacrifice, forgiveness, reconciliation, positivity, openness, truthfulness, inclusiveness and honesty. 16. What is the history of the black stone and where was it before being placed in the quoba? 17. Who is Al Qudam and what does the name mean? 18. What is the a) Number of wars waged and the people killed by the P...t. b) What is the number of decoities committed by him. C) the number of sex slaves owned by him and d) the number of wives he married? 19. Is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the God of Prophet Mohammed and the Muslims (Allah) the same? If not, who is Allah and what is his origin? 20. How a religion that was started in Arabia, claims the God of the Jews, their scriptures, their prophets, their teachings, their way of life, their land, their doctrine, and their Holy places as its own? And what happened to the Jews, Christians, and the Pagans, the sons of the soil in the 6th century middle east, and who occupies their land now? 21. How did P...t M....d die? Who killed him and why? Note: Watch channels like cira international, harris sulthan, Asli nabi, pfander,CP etc for enlightenment. Everyone has the right to believe or not to believe anything he or she wants But see to it that no one fools you in the name of religion and brainwash you to hate/harm your fellow humans.

[@123dsj123]

You have good questions and concerns. The questions and concerns are repeating. You might want to edit your comment and remove the repeated.

[@sunrays472]

@@123dsj123 Thank you

[@sunrays472]

@@AlonzoHarris235 i. I try to motivate the readers to ask questions and find answers themselves. ii. I only made reference to western ideas, thoughts and education, not to morality. Where did you get the idea of morality from?.. may be the q...n? iii. I never lay down any criteria for anything. May be you are not intelligent enough to understand my questions...Now you have proved yourself a...d.

[@peterchieshe1474]

Good advice. Excellent interrogations and incisive inquest in search of the TRUTH.❤

[@sunrays472]

@@defenderoftruth32121. I am only motivating people to ask questions and find the answers themselves. I am not saying any relision is true or untrue and i am not making any conclusions here. That is for the reader to arrive at. 2. Here the topic for discussion is ' the Quran isn't from Mecca'. Hence, I can only bring up questions pertaining to that religion. 3. If you want, you may ask the same questions to other religions as well.

[@marcelalhind]

Absolute salute to the work you guys do and also all the historians who took part in it. Clearly showing islam is false

[@ericlima2832]

Thank you 🙏

[@SonOfHutch]

WHERE can i download Dr Jays presentations?!! Been looking for quite awhile now. please 🙏

[@vladimirackermann6182]

Good work!

[@thejohnwhiteproject5202]

Again, thank you for the insight and information. This helps!

[@pietbokvanrensburg8131]

Very interesting gentleman. 😎

[@zotax6948]

hey fellas just in case KZbin decides to kick you off the platform is their an alternate we can find you and your videos on??? I ask because of the censorship going on these days.

[@nikicavujovic2332]

Brothers, your work is wonderful. Thanks for your efforts! God bles both of you! Are you thinking about preparation of a book in which will be incorporate all findings regarding the SIN in last few years? This book can be financed with some kind of subscription? Please, think about the idea.

[@ashrafali-yf7ed]

Great job

[@digitalali6550]

al fadi head gear looks auesome!..and mecca is 908 miels away from jerusalem. .so its a long desert heat suicidal walk god ordered propeht ibrahim and his wife hajera and son ishamel to make.. god knows best.. could it be becca valley near lebanon?

[@catnip3987]

I have a Muslim guy challenging me. He posed this question Jesus is God in Titus 2:13.jesus is a prophet sent by God to the only 12 tribes of israel in Matthew 15:24.Jesus is an apostle in Hebrew 3:1 ,question.Which is the correct title of jesus? Can someone perhaps help me out

[@hichamboulos1155]

GREAT VIDEO!

[@flamingchillum]

Nice. Thank you.

[@lakshmiamavasai5527]

GOD BLESS U BRO ❤❤❤❤❤

[@davidchase1439]

No mention of Mecca anywhere before 8th century 741 AD

[@Trabunkle]

Wow! Even some atheists are watching the videos! They must be learning about Islam to criticize it, just like they criticize Christianity!

[@satmat6566]

Thanks bro !! Jay did not forget his leather Jacket !!! No koranic parchements dating muhammad and uthman !!! I have heard that there were a few muhammads even prior to Islam and different places called Mecca prior to the Hijaz 's Mecca ! Moreover the Modern Mecca does not have any archaelogical findings and artifacts as well as no historical records !

[@satmat6566]

@@defenderoftruth3212 But Allah should do better for Mecca !! all the prophets are buried in Mecca according to Islamic sources!! Boomerang effect on Islam eveytime!!!

[@saloanyousif3308]

Lord Jesus bless you

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Great news

[@sweswarupini9732]

Y these muslims can't accept to rectify their faults...

[@azedinebenammar4339]

Jay, I think you are getting closer to the truth. I think you should next focus on Medina.

[@ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439]

Do glad yall are talking about baka بكه، which is rooted with بكي

[@patricksales-je3du]

Good Morning Dr. Jay . I am Christian, I would to ask you a Question , I understand the Quran is all about Jesus, the Question is has the Islamic tampered and added their own version to the Quran ? If so has it been Tampered within the last 100 years by the Radicals of Islamic Faith? thank you Dr. Jay and Al, I love your show and Love your Teaching and Research, GOD BLESS YOU BOTH!

[@sirupate]

Great stuff, you guys were way ahead of Shoemakers book, and I’m glad (except for the existence of Mohammad) he agrees with you👍

[@henktmmr]

Thank you for revealing the truth and exposing lies again ❤ Hopefully many deceived muslims will leave islam.

[@mysticalvoice]

I am glad to see that Sam Shamoun left the religion which he defended, isn't there anyone who hasn't fallen after insulting me and Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)? When I saw this video, I do not know whether Sam and his cohorts realised that even after 2000 years, so many reformed Christians, who are claiming to be in the Holy Spirit (Isaiah 11:2) still searching for the pages of the Bible to find out the truth. 2000 years after here, so many Christians still do not know/ do not have God and theology. This video is a direct evidence to see Christians are not guided into the truth, (lest ignore all the truths), the fruits spirit, prophecies in the book of Joel (God will give wisdom to daughters and sons, they will prophesy, God will write his law in the minds of people , Jeremiah), the promise of Holy Spiirt in the Gospel of John, all these evidences are missing in the life of these Christian scholars. I am shocked to see Sam Shamoun says, whoever believes in the Trinity are his bretherens. But this was not his view about Catholics and Orthodox believers when he was a Calvinist. Sam goes on saying that he will be nasty with Muslims and JW believers, because they are not trinitarians. But in the scripture, believing in co-equal and co-eternal trinity is not a doctrine nor a criteria , but the evidence of Holy Spirit is a prime criteria. Can these people really claim they have the holy spirit? , Sam Do you and all the Christian scholars have Holy Spirit? The scripture says: whoever does not have the spirit of Jesus does not belong to Christ. (Romans 8:9) I also praise Sam Shamoun for his acknowledgement when he said: Jesus spoke to the people of his time , and we should seek the meaning of his words intented and understood in those days. We should go back to his time to understand the meaning of the words of Christ. When we go back to the time of Jesus Christ, we realize that Jesus Christ wasn't worshipped as God/Deity in his time and never after his ascension. Of course the Bible says that Jesus was worhsipped in the boat, on the mountain, roughly 7/8 times Jesus was worshipped. But as we ponder deeply into these worships, we realize that, these worships were acts of Reverences, how we honour a Prophet, King or Priest. They were not intented to be deity worship. This is why a congregational worhsip with prayers from Psalm or songs of Praise weren't given to Jesus Christ. In Daniel 2:46 , King worshipped Daniel. Did Jesus claim that he is God?. We must look back in time to see what does it mean to eb God in a Jewish society 2000 years ago. We will find out that , receiving the tile "God/Son of God" is a title of honour conferred on Prophets and some high priests. So the claim Jesus was making: "I am the son of God" is making claim that "I am chosen by God", I am God's elect " etc. The jews were denying this title for Jesus Christ. (John 10:30-37, Psalm 82:6-7, Hebrews 3:1, 5:5, Acts 3:13, 3:26, 4:27, 4:30) Sam Shamoun goes on saying about Tawassul/intercession which the Muslims pray to Prophet Muhammad/Saints/Imams. This is what disciples did after the ascension of Jesus Christ (One mediators between man and God the Man Jesus, 2 Timothy 3:6, Hebrews 3:1, Acts 4:30). the Apostles who are filled with Holy Spirit, praying to God the Father, through the waseela (intercession) of his Holy Servant Jesus. This is the same view Islam and Islamic saints expressing about Jesus Christ, and says Christians are in a misunderstaning who jesus was. In the Hadith 38 in 40 Hadith Nawawi, God spoke about His servant who become His friend, God becomes his hand, feet, ear, eyes, and tongue of His servant. This is what Jesus in the Gospel of John 14:10 and the union of Jesus with God the Father is same as the union of Jesus with his followers , John 17:21-22, Jesus even grant his glory to his true disciples. The Muslim mystics explain this union as Fana fiLLAH. This is why after the ascension of Jesus Christ, the holy spirit came upon the disciples, and they worshipped only God the Father, and making Jesus the holy servant of God (Acts 3:13, 4:27-30) a mediator in prayer. If jesus was truly God and deity , and co-equal and co-eternal and not as God and Son fo God according to the Law (Psalm 82:6-7, John 10:33-35), then the apostles were in false spirits and they were committing blasphemy and heresy for saying "Holy servant of God" (Acts 4:27-30). Of course Jesus is called Image of God, Adam is called image of God, all mankind are image of God. God glorify some of His servants with special abilities and powers. As God Put His spirit in them (Isaiah 42:1) God works through them. Jesus says that those who believe in him do greater work than his works. This is again proving that Christians misunderstood who jesus was. Becausse , if jesus was trinuine co equal and co eternal god in flesh, then it would be blasphemy to say, we can do greater work that Jesus (God) , because of our belief in God, that we can do greater things than the works of God! To me, it seems like Sam Shamoun is on a journey to Islam and truth. I welcome Sam Shamoun to debate or discuss with the on these point I have raised here. I hope Sam Shamoun will stick to the principles he proposes in this video> 1- understand the scriptures in context. 2- Evalaute the claims of Jesus about himself in accordance with the entirety of the scripture. 3- research for evidences for he worship of Jesus in the New Testament. When the divinity of Jesus was not revealed during his life on earth, it is heresy to quote the worhsip he received in this world while he was still living on this earth. Those who worship Jesus wasn't worshipping him as deity. but giving reverences to Jesus as son of God according to the law (Psalm 82:6-7), this is why after the ascension of Jesus , the worship (reverence on a personal face to face level didnt continue) Only specifici people who came to Jesus for some miracle or deliverence did worship (same as in Daniel 2:46) in the Exodus, Moses bowed down to his father in Law, Jacob fell on his face before Esau his brother and worshipped him seven times. Jesus did not say to anyone who visited him: Stay back, my disciples are going to worship me at 9 AM. Join the worhsip for more blessings. The disciples did not organise the worship of Jesus after his ascension. They still went to pray in the synagogues and jewish temple. Jesus had his ministry for three years, during this time, he received only 7 worships from visitors. Mary his mother, Moses and Elijah who appeared before Jesus and his disciples did not worship him! Moses and Elijah should have known triune God and came to see the second person in trnity, they should have worshipped Jesus co-eqaully and co-eternally with the father. but they missed worshipping Jesus. Even a voice from heaven heard, "This is my son, listen to him". Even at that time, there is no worship of Jesus Christ.

[@theoarsman1]

Jews, Christians, Gnostics, Manichaeans, Zoroastrians, Pagans, etc, abounded in Baalbek. The people were farming and trading.

[@alanwood4968]

There are better uses for towels than sticking it on your head. lol

[@India1India]

Great presentation... Jesus Christ bless you both

[@Martin-lv1xw]

Amen, brothers in Jesus Christ.

[@thetjhproject]

Medina is a very common word that means city. Where is Medina exactly

[@physiocrat7143]

When the divine and uncreated biok fell out of heaven the ring binder came open by accident and the pages fell out on the sand. It was a windy day and they got blown about all over the place and the profit had to run around collecting them. As Allah could be careless at times, the pages hadn't been numbered and that is why the chapters were just arranged in order of length.

[@necmettinmutlu306]

Bacca is a kind of hat worn by pilgrims. In the verse, the first house built for people is the house that people bless with a hat. Pilgrims wear hats to show that they are pilgrims. Also, the qibla is the sun. Before the prophet, people turned to the haram mosque as qibla.

[@sheikhboyardee556]

Applying the questions to Islam that was asked of Christianity. Christianity was attacked for 200-300 years & survived just fine. Archeological research has supported Christianity & what is written in the Bible. No one is picking on Islam, Islam is being treated just as Christianity has been treated. The problem is that the research is not being kind to Islam.

[@123dsj123]

You wrote: “Researchers are not being kind to Islam.” When was Islam ever kind to researchers?

[@samchs222]

​@@123dsj123 Christianity stood fine. As much as I have had spiritual experiences as a Christian, I felt I needed to listen to archeological and other historical evidences. The text in Quran and archeological evidence doesn't support same

[@sheikhboyardee556]

@@123dsj123 No, I said "research is not being kind to Islam." I'm sure the researchers are doing their job fairly & Islam is failing on it's own.

[@peterchieshe1474]

Research is unbiased. It doesn't take sides but goes after discovering the truth via evidence and this without prejudice. Thanks.

[@sheikhboyardee556]

@@defenderoftruth3212 How funny. Muslims spend a great deal of time on all the islamic research channels attacking Christianity.They cannot explain islam so they always try to change the subject to Christianity.

[@MichaelPetek]

A Hebrew euphemism for the Sanctuary is makom. The equivalent in Arabic is makaan. Could Mecca be any place where the Kaaba happens to be?

[@maxschon7709]

And Mecca might be Just the Word for a sanctuary. That because there where MORE then one holy place finding Mecca is difficult. Was it Jerusalem? Petra? Hira? Kerbala? In the 8th century they choose the Dessert place in today Saudi-Arabia.

[@MichaelPetek]

@@maxschon7709 Sanctuaries could be mobile and portable, as was the Israelite one before they built the Temple. Air Force One is similar. It's any aircraft as soon as the President of the United States steps on board.

[@Yahshua_is_Yahweh]

The Quran is not preserved and is corrupted 1. In [Sahih Muslim Book 5, Hadith Number 2286] Abu Musa called 300 Basra reciters who were the best and they said: “We used to recite a surah but we have forgotten it.” Today, that surah does not exist in the Quran. 2. Aisha, the favorite wife of Muhammad tells us In [Sunan ibn Majah 1944] , Aishah explains that the verses relating to Stoning and Adult B'reastFeeding were written down but......"A sheep ate the verses under my pillow.” 3. In [Qurtubi tafseer of Sura Ahsab Ayath 1] Aisha said, "Surah Ahzab contained 200 verses during the lifetime of prophet, When Uthman edited the copies of the Quran, 73 verses were recorded." 4. In [Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 72] “Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Quran, for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Quran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available’” 5. In [Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif, p.10] Umar was once looking for the text of a specific verse of the Quran he vaguely remembered. To his deep sorrow, he discovered that the only person who had any record of that verse had been killed in the battle of Yamama and that the verse was consequently lost 6. In [Sahih Muslim Book 12, Hadith 156] “A surah which resembled at-Tawba in length and severity was forgotten and lost.” Surah at-Tawba today has 129 verses. An entire Surah equivalent in length to this Surah 9 was “lost”! That’s 129 verses missing! 7. In [Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 184] “Malik says that several verses from chapter 9 (Sura of Repentance) have been dropped from the beginning. Among them is, ‘In the name of God the compassionate, the Merciful’ because it was proven that the length of Sura of Repentance was equal to the length of the Sura of the Cow.” Sura of the Cow (al-Baqarah) is the longest chapter with 286 verses. If Surah 9 also used to have 286 verses, then 157 verses are missing because this Surah only has 129 verses today" 8. In [ Sahih Al-bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 558] Mohammed couldn't memorize the whole Quran because He used to forget it. Muhammed said: "He has reminded me of Verses of such Suras, which I was caused to forget"

[@wileyvet815]

Nobody has ever seen the "Mother of Books"; that is the tablets that contain the Koran, which resides beside the Muslim god. ALL verses were transmitted through Gabriel to Muhammad. Since no one has seen the original, how can they make the preposterous claim of perfect preservation?

[@Dr.lukwagoAsuman]

I think all the current religious books were severally edited, and much of the information was abandoned. In the Bible, many books were not canonised, eg, the Books of Enoch, Jubilee, Barruck, etc.

[@davidchase1439]

Pretty much shown kotan editedvompiled over century later after muhammed and uthman written far north translated off from Syrian aramiac

[@maxschon7709]

Mecca might just had the meaning of "place" or"site" without having a destinged geografically Spot. Maybe the editors of the Quran Had NO CLUE where it really was.

[@edwardemo1952]

It's two place, Mecca and Medina. Came Down for period of times for the Prophet only. After many Reciters Death on Wars, it's started to get recorded. Just like how Christianity written hundred years after Christ Died, not immedietly notes his words. Kinda like that

[@commentfreely5443]

except bible was written during lives of the disciples before they were executed, and john who was banished to island. nothing hundreds of years later. as for quran there was no mecca until recent times.

[@edwardemo1952]

@@commentfreely5443 mecca was already built by Abraham himself, but only recently it becames 'holy site' or compass to pray. Because after Abraham most prayers focused to Jerusalem a.k.a The Wall, after last prophet Muhammad SAW it was getting standarized where to pray, how many rakaat and make sure no makes up religious things added after prophet died.

[@singatakberpura]

Ex Muslim here..Adopted hinduism a year ago. Thank you for pointing out the fallacies in the Quran

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

Can you recite surah al - fatihah if you ex-muslim

[@valmadf]

​ Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her

[@singatakberpura]

@@mugiwaraluffy6791 Yes but why should i call allah the most merciful and most gracious?Why should i call him the master of the day of judgement. Are you trying to trick me into saying it? I dont believe Muhammad is a prophet or Allah is god.

[@singatakberpura]

@@defenderoftruth3212 I pray to Lord Krishna,i follow the Bhagavad Gita. I joined a Hare Krishna Temple in Berlin

[@oliviabanks888]

@@mugiwaraluffy6791Ridiculous question, will that prove that he’s indeed an ex-Muslim ? Can’t he just go to google and copy the stuff you want him to recite😂😂 how bright of you‼️

[@SiberianGravy]

Fable: DON'T ARGUE WITH DONKEYS The donkey said to the tiger: - "The grass is blue". The tiger replied: - "No, the grass is green." The discussion heated up, and the two decided to submit him to arbitration, and for this they went before the lion, the King of the Jungle. Already before reaching the forest clearing, where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to shout: - "His Highness, is it true that the grass is blue?". The lion replied: - "True, the grass is blue." The donkey hurried and continued: - "The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts and annoys me, please punish him." The king then declared: - "The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence." The donkey jumped cheerfully and went on his way, content and repeating: - "The Grass Is Blue"... The tiger accepted his punishment, but before he asked the lion: - "Your Majesty, why have you punished me?, after all, the grass is green." The lion replied: - "In fact, the grass is green." The tiger asked: - "So why are you punishing me?". The lion replied: - "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave and intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that come and bother me with that question." The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who does not care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on arguments that don't make sense... There are people who, no matter how much evidence and evidence we present to them, are not in the capacity to understand, and others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and all they want is to be right even if they are not. - reminds me of how Muslims are -

[@shahadathkadir]

And this is the same guy who said there are many different Quran . which ones did not come from Mecca ?

[@majdishaladi7854]

I am unbelievably proud to be a Muslim If someone takes an honest take on history and all the views and stories people presented there is none as bullet proof and stable as Islamic view presented by the prophet who was guided by the angel Gabriel There is only one God, and the message does not depend on anything else than this...a true monotheistic religion which protects me and my brothers from all the BS going around And for anyone who cares...if you really believe Dr. has a point...think ! Think!

[@danieljosing8335]

The Spiritkind The Most Holy Ones of The Most Holy Place of The Tabernacle 9 Angelkind Seraphim Cherubim Thrones Dominion ( Adam and Second Adam) Powers Virtues Principalities Archangel Angel The Angelkind ( Children of God ) Ephesians 6 : 12 We are fighting against Powers and Principalities Mark 12 : 25 We shall all be like Angelkind Pslams 82 : 6 We are made by God. Hence, whomever John 3 : 16, keeping in mind, Mathew 6 and 7 can Philippians 4 : 13 for we no longer Colossians 3 : 8 but Exodus 20 : 2-17 and Deut 5 : 6-21. Eternity >>> This World >>> Eternity This world has alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, the first abd The Last. We all are born in Spirit in immersed Waters before water broke to breathe oxygen. God is Light, not Darkness. Children of Light will be separated from Children of Darkness. Eternity shall resume after this world. Hence, New Earth, New Heaven, and New Jerusalem . Remember that our Christ said about mansions. Revelation 21 and 22 The Magnificent Mansions of Abba Father.

[@xavierbesnard9201]

Thanks !

[@marierejouli6772]

Mohamed Addressing his Koraich people warning them of what happened in Sodom and Ghomorre`: Sourate Al Safphate verset 137: `And you certainly pass by them in the morning. and the night. Do you not reason then? How could Mohammed's people pass in morning and evening and see this place if they were not close? They would not have been able to make it 1200km away if they were in current Mecca but they could do so if they were in Petra.

[@melaninsupergurl-vu4uv]

So Mecca was just a geographic area outpost of trade routes and merchant warlord pirates with nothing but sand, an oasis or two and camels and tents..... With a roadside tent with souvenir statues of different superstitions at best.

[@MuhHuda-su2sf]

The revelation in the Quran doesn't have to be fit with the Meccan and Medina cindition at that time. Arabs used to travel to Syam (Syiria) every year so the pictures of such cities already known by Arabs. So the revelation used such images to motivate muslim to do good deeds.

[@HarrySodikim-p9o]

From everywhere!

[@Dr.lukwagoAsuman]

It's possible, that the Qur'an was not from the current location of Mecca(formally Bakka). Al Fad knows better that the earliest Muslims faced Jerusalem during prayers, and that some Qur'an Suras were written with the help of Christians &Jews. Many religious information is very abstract, in this modern world. Information like ascending through clouds/rainbows, etc can not make sense to humans who know what clouds are!! The current humans know astronomy, and we can even inquire about the exact galaxies that received those Prophets that ascended to heaven !!! God tolerates humans especially when we are ignorant about many things. It's only a basic civility requirement for us as humans to respect, care, tolerate and be positive to our fellow humans.😢

[@tahazaidomar1749]

the reason is because it is divine revelation and not man made

[@chriswintle664]

Madina isn't that where 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel landed

[@ademarifaj3316]

Not defending Kuran, let's talk about the Bible,how many chapters are not in the Book,how many chapters are stolen from ancient scripts, why we have Nag Hamadi,that is gnostic Bible,who wrote Bible etc,I spend 40 years reading and research to find bit's of Truth,they saying Bible and Kuran are words of God,are they......just don't think that many of us are stupid and didn't try find origins of humanity and our beliefs......

[@MOUNTAINZION-kp6gi]

It's very stupid to believe in Islam lies as Isha said without lies Islam dies, one scholar of Islam said, Adam descended from heaven and landed at Sri Lanka which Adam footprint 👣 is there and hawa which is EVe landed at Mecca if it's truth why are we finding difficult to know the those places today

[@JoeHonestTruth]

The core issue that counts: Mohammad naturally died at age 62 like all humans will do, was buried 2 days later under his death bed. His body decomposed and is today bones in the dirt. Jesus was publicly executed before many, his dead body was sealed in a tomb guarded by Roman soldiers. On day 3, his tomb was empty but thereafter Jesus was alive and with his apostles and seen by multitudes of people. He was seen by multitudes ascend from earth into the sky and went to heaven ( even the Quran says Jesus went to heaven for more future actions to be performed at the end times ). So, Mohammad’s bones are in the dirt and Jesus is in heaven. Which narrative makes more common and logical sense? Jesus has been seen and heard by select humans here on earth in the last 2000 years. Jesus’s mother Mary has also been seen and heard by select humans. Jesus and Mary in all their communications to humans in the 2000 years never mentioned Mohammad as any prophet nor the recipient of revelations from Angel Gabriel (Jabril). Such omissions about Mohammad over 2000 years is powerful evidence that Mohammad was an ordinary man, died as an ordinary man, and has dead bones like an ordinary man, and his claims of receiving divine revelations is not corroborated by Jesus and Mary in all their communications to humans in the last 2000 years. Most assuredly if Mohammad was a true prophet, you can bet your last DINAR Jesus and Mary would tell humans here on earth to read and follow the Quran. Jesus Saves, and Mohammad, not at all.

[@KiamatChange-ke8nd]

What Arabic used in Quran? Is that a quraisy dialect?

[@solaura6218]

Yes. Definitely Qirazy.

[@harshmanhv]

​@@solaura6218nopes it's kufi dilect ..... Qureshi dilect was neither chosen in 1924(canonisation in Egypt) nor when this was canonised for the world in 1980s

[@solaura6218]

@@harshmanhv I understand perfectly my dear. How is that not Qwaizy?

[@solaura6218]

@@harshmanhv Exactly. How is that not Qwaizy?

[@solaura6218]

@@harshmanhv Qwaizy man qwaizy!

[@coltonconner782]

That’s so damaging Amen

[@ryn8068]

I assume that Shoemaker does not mention that there are 114 Surahs (Chapters) in the Quran. No big deal right! Well, there are 114 verses in the Gospel of Thomas. That's not a coincidence. The Quran and Mark draw heavily from Thomas, and the Hebrew word for 114 means knowledge, not a coincidence! Thomas is the most accurate representation of Jesus's teachings.

[@simonhateley7943]

Before Uthman burned all the other Qurans did they all have 114 surahs let's see if you know your islamic history

[@ryn8068]

I have studied ibn Al Arabi for 15 years and I have studied the Gospel of Thomas. All I know about the Quaran comes from al Arabi’s writings. I’m a Sufi not a Islamic scholar.

[@simonhateley7943]

​@@ryn8068Ok but you do know about Uthman burning all the other Qurans and standardising one?

[@ryn8068]

My studies seem to indicate something fishy is going on what do know? I’m interested.

[@simonhateley7943]

​@@ryn8068I only ask because you put emphasis on the number 114 some of the Qurans that Uthman burned didn't contain 114 Surahs so if that interests you then you can look it up it's part of your history

[@123ynotidd123]

If Mekka is a vibrant city that Roman Empire time then Rome had conquered it like Egypt.

[@Jkns-w3k]

How can you earn eternality from goodness n badness related topics.. you only earn eternality tru the NAMES THAT ARE TIED TO THE 100TH NAME

[@milamber2553]

Concerning iddah, waiting period after divorce Surah 65 4 And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, AND (ALSO FOR) THOSE WHO HAVE NOT MENSTRUATED. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease. The quran endorses marriage to and consumation of the marriage with minors

[@milamber2553]

@defenderoftruth3212 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. see 2:228 The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause. This is the meaning of His saying; Tafsirs say that this includes those too young for menstruation. So try again

[@milamber2553]

@defenderoftruth3212 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. see 2:228 The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause. This is the meaning of His saying; Tafsirs say it refers to those too young to menstrate.

[@milamber2553]

@defenderoftruth3212 there are several tafsirs that agree it refers to those too young to menstrate. Why would they have a waiting period? As you said its to make sure they aren't pregnant which means the marriage was consumated. So quran endorses sex with minors

[@Cmr_5vifail]

After so called renaissance and scientific, technological,industrial revolutions west is so steeped in ignorance in 2024 ,what to say of those places such long time ago,anything possible

[@frimayulianto5424]

Matthew 7:21-23 Not everyone who calls out to Me: Lord, Lord! will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in heaven. On the last day many will call to Me: Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and cast out demons in Your name, and perform many miracles in Your name also? At that time I will be honest with them and say: I never knew you! Away from Me, you evildoers!" This is what will testify later in the judgment

[@Truth_Seeker_and_Learner]

The Quran is not from Mecca; it is from Allah (SWT).

[@satmat6566]

No the Quran is man made full of preislamic stories , christian Gnosticism and Jewish legend etc

[@kalleanka9467]

We gota good sloganfrom soco speakers corner in ln London "with out lies islam dies"

[@Jesusistheway5724]

THE PLACE ❌ THE BOOK❌ THE MAN❌ EXIT ISLAM ☪️ ❌❌❌ THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH ✝️✅✅✅

[@Jesusistheway5724]

@@defenderoftruth3212 So based on what do you make this claim?

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

So do you follow 10 commandment tho?

[@Jesusistheway5724]

@@mugiwaraluffy6791 Why you ask, what has this to do with this topic?

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

@@Jesusistheway5724 you christian..do you follow or keep 10 commadment

[@Jesusistheway5724]

@@defenderoftruth3212 What are you talking about?? Please be clear...

[@RichardZatopetsaManda]

You can know it all you want but ✝️Christ is the only way❤️

[@hkentertainmentlearning-us4ln]

Nasara is a Quranic word but it does not mean Christian . Quran's Yahud is and ideology not any nation or race.

[@almazchati4178]

Becca is Aramaic version of Mecca. Arami is nordic Arabi, with m and b swapped. There are many places which share the same name. It does not mean anything. I think your faith in Jesus is not giving you enough guidance. By talking on his behalf with apparent ignorance, you are bringing his name down as well. Jesus by the way is derived from Aramaic version of Zeus. It is impossible for him to be named as such.

[@EdsChristianChannel]

I used your information in a debate with Mansur at speakers corner about 3 months ago. In the end he asked me to leave before people got angry with me in the comments section of his channel hahaha. I did 4 videos on it and got many views from Muslims. I pray they come to know the Lord Jesus Christ. God bless you both. Video 1 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3O3o3iDdqd8Z6Msi=bQMojVwHc2HIVFoY Video 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/epnKl6KoadSem9ksi=KS0Ip_JzQc6U-0il Video 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHXJeWaDhJppqZIsi=K33zECxIQJHupUzt Video 4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6CZq3quqcuWn5Ysi=uLJgrg3eDB8glTiA

[@TrggrWarning]

The area sounds like where Muhammad rose to the heavens.

[@mhamedkhattabi5863]

Nothing from what they talk about can be called acadamic work . This is just pure polemics . The man is christian evangalist trying to convert Muslims to his faith which is based on books written by unkown authors 😅

[@mysotiras21]

YAWN. this is a summary of serious academic research. The Qur'an is the work of an unknown author. Worse, the Qur'an is a CESSPOOL of errors, evils, contradictions, absurdities, plagiarized materials, and general incoherence. Whoever wrote that asinine little book was simply less intelligent than toothpaste. If you claim that God wrote it, you are calling God an idiot. That's blasphemy.

[@truefaith4200]

A true prophet must be prophesied before his coming and he must be able to prophesize. Otherwise, he is a false prophet.

[@abubakrwest1007]

I'm so impressed with this two guys. I would like you two going to your source the holy Bible

[@davidskolik5303]

I just think it’s so sad. It’s the 21st century, and people are still debating which mythology is the ONE.

[@Miserati]

huh. I was like you about 5 month ago. Do not think that you are smarter than anyone else here.

[@davidskolik5303]

Not smarter. Just more rational.

[@skatter44]

@@davidskolik5303 Is it more rational to believe that all of reality just came into existence by itself, out of nothing, on it's own or that it was brought into existence by a supreme being?

[@123dsj123]

@@davidskolik5303 There is nothing rational about the denial of God's existence.

[@davidskolik5303]

@@123dsj123I deny the existence of leprechauns as well.

[@sohailuddinalavi8066]

AH you accept that Quran is very comprehensive. Secondly you dont have evidence that Jews and Christian were there to narrate their part, yet it is covered. This confirms that it is not from a man but a true revolution from the Almighty who knows everything.

[@subhuman3408]

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