The Qur’an isn’t from Mecca?!? - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay - Episode 52

If the Qur’an originated in Mecca, then there must be plenty of evidence to support it, right? Today Al Fadi and Dr. Jay look at the complete lack of evidence not only for the Qur'an coming from Mecca but the existence of Mecca at all. Historical Mecca was nearly invisible. It was isolated with few resources and even fewer people. The historical and geographical evidence simply doesn’t support the booming metropolis that the Standard Islamic Narrative would like you to believe.
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[@123dsj123]

There are many, many ancient maps on which there are many, many ancient cities. Therefore, it should not be difficult for Muslims to find one ancient map that dates before the 10th century A.D. that has the City of Mecca on it. * Imagine Mecca - the first city on earth, the original home of 90-feet tall Adam and Eve (according to the “Standard Islamic Narratives”). And yet, no military conqueror, no empire, no civilization, and no human being heard about it until well past the 10th century A.D.

[@almazchati4178]

Eve is not mentioned in Quran, and Adam refers to generic human beings. 90-feet tall Adam would not be unusual given the size of dinosaurs, but such stories are usually sourced from Judea/Christian sources brought by Judea/Christian converts.

[@elishchayil2023]

“Eve” is not written in Qur’an al-lah or the book of sky cannot name the wife of the first human but tells to women on the earth that al-lah the all-knowing teaches how to honor women from the (unnamed or unknown) Mother of All Women. Eve in Hebrew חַוָּה Chavah / Havah means to give life, to live, to breath) Eve - Living

[@almazchati4178]

By the way, it is not unusual for people to be 90 feet. Probably these huge people consumed huge dinosaurs, and they became extinct together. David wrestled with Yahuwwa, right? Was he a midget? Can't be. Possibly he was 500 feet or so, he was more knowledgeable than Adam. How long do you think he lived? If Noah lived 950 years, he should have lived may be 200 years with better health care.

[@justinstumpf4243]

The Bible never said Adam was a giant the only giants were the Nephilim that were offspring of angels breeding with humans. Most were killed during the flood, but it seems God used David to finish off that line as they were still remnants in the Caananite tribes.

[@almazchati4178]

@@elishchayil2023 Himm, where did you learn all this stuff? Can't your God, whoever he was at the time of creation, create more than just one measly human and create his wife from his rib? Sounds like magic show. What was his name Baal, Al, YHWX, Osiris, Zeus, Spirit. Word. I got all this info from Yesus, who is Zeus in Aramaic

[@nsp74]

salute to these two courageous soldiers of Christ!

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@nsp74 ................... May Prophet jESUs pbuh rescue them from the raging fire of Hell. May he will intercede to Allah SWT to have them being pulled out from the fire. -05-12-24

[@easutube]

Your cult is just as much of a lie as there's ... arrogant self-righteous trash! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4rUoYmXhZilsMU

[@marcelalhind]

​@@defenderoftruth3212 I have urine of Muhammad in a botle. Urine of Muhammad is stronger than Islamic allah. Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti reports from Tabarani and Bayhaqi who narrate from Hukaymah bint Umaymah (May Allah be pleased with her) with an authentic chain of transmission, she said, ‘the Prophet (May Allah shower peace and blessings on Him) had a wooden bowl in which He used to urinate and was placed under His bed. One night, He searched for it but did not find it and asked for it saying, ‘where is the bowl?’ The members of the house replied ‘Umm Salamah’s slave girl Barrah drank from it’ who came from Habashah with her. The Prophet replied, ‘surely she has protected herself from the hellfire with a great wall’’’.

[@Amaan2344]

I'm Ex Muslim guy... I think I am future Christian

[@sreed7637]

❤

[@RR-wd1do]

That's great! Do u have a BIBLE??Read 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

[@TheLionFarm]

Best do

[@bankubanga789]

Amen come in brother!!!

[@bankubanga789]

If u need a good place to learn and ex question specially regarding the Bible. You should follow "This AssyrianGuy","God Logic", and most Def my top favorite "Radar Apologetics",who gives detail and goes over the OT in collaboration with New Testament. I've heard there is another page too called Bible project I believe who takes baby steps in teaching the gospel

[@Yahshua_is_Yahweh]

Different Version of Arabic Quran 1. Hafs - 92% acceptance 2. Warsh - 4% acceptance 3. Ad Dury (alkisa'i) - 2% acceptance 4. Qalun - 1% acceptance 5. Hisham - 1% acceptance 6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) 7. Al Laith 8. Al Bazzi 9. Al Azraq 10. As Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) 11. Idrees 12. Ibn shanboodh 13. Al Asbahaani 14. Khaled 15. Ibn Dhakwan 16. Isa BinWardan 17. Sulayman 18. Ibn Jammaz 19. Ahmad bin Farah 20. Qunbul 21. Showba 22. Ruwais 23. Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi 24. Abu Amro Al - Ala 25. As Susi (ibn-katheer) 26. Ruh 27. Al Dury (Al Hasan AlBasri) 28. Hafs Al - Dury (ibn kathir) 29. Khalf 30. Ishaq 31. Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l 32. Abu - Farah Al Shan - budhi 33. Ibn Masud QUR'AN 34. Ubai kab QUR'AN 35. Ruh QUR'AN 36. Abu Musa QUR'AN 37. Hafs QUR'AN 1982 edition 38. Ibn Abbas QUR'AN 39. Topkapi Qur'an 40. Samarkand Kufic Qur'an

[@BlodigTampong]

Moreover, none of these are the original. Without the original Quran it is impossible to know what it said or what language it was written in. We only have assumptions about it.

[@sattaurnikki]

And yet the say, the quran is from Allah and cannot be changed! So how come there are so many versions?? 😨😰

[@sattaurnikki]

​@@BlodigTampongIslam is a cult from satan.

[@lokisg3]

Muslim: uhh... There one Allah in each quran. Yeah, that's it! Many Allah but he is all powerful and mighty that he create himself many times for each version! *Short silent* Don't believe thr infedal!!

[@CHYIM-tx5oh]

​@@lokisg3I think it's because he created himself from the sweat of horses😂😂😂. Christian Prince is exposing this cult of Mohamed

[@srv1704]

Al Fadi and Dr Jay need to write a book with all this information in it,best seller! This is my daily classroom.

[@user-tr8pc9ym9g]

How isnt this bygger news ? This changes everything. If mekka is a liye, saudi Arabia has to come front and apoligize to all muslims because they deccived them

[@peterjackson2625]

Saudi Arabia is not going to declare that Mecca is nothing but a fraud. They make too much money from the gullible Muslim "pilgrims", including £20 a bottle for desalinated sea water, labelled as miraculous ZamZam well.

[@peterjackson2625]

Saudi Arabia deceives all the Muslims "pilgrims". Mecca was an unknown spot in an arid desert and not on any ancient maps. It exists today only because it has desalinated Red Sea water in vast quantities. The Muslim pilgrims are being ripped off by the Saudi princes.

[@JohnSmith-zs1bf]

the deception of islam wasn't an accident. it's intentional.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@JohnSmith-zs1bf .......................... I did not read any deception in the Qur'an. But I read many deceptions in the Bible. -05-12-24

[@danael5041]

Loro conoscono la verità. Maometto fu manipolato su ordine della Chiesa Cattolica per scopi espansionistici con l'aiuto di una suora araba e suo cugino.

[@pmoran7971]

Yes Mecca was not on any Roman maps, because it was not a trade route, but far more sensible is to ask the question, why is there no archaeological evidence for a large city at that time in history? however the Saudi's already realised this is a problem, so covered the city with concrete, to hide the nonexistence of evidence, and for good reason, religious tourism brings in a fortune for the Saudi's, so in conclusion, there will be no excavation of Mecca, in the future

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@pmoran7971 ......................... Jerusalem is the home of many Muslim prophets. But where are their graves now? Why no excavated evidence? -05-12-24

[@user-ye5fx3ep1l]

I agree. Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 makes billions of dollars 💵 from tourism every year. They are not going to expose the biggest scam of all times. No body kills their cash cow 🐄

[@user-ye5fx3ep1l]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Let’s explore the archaeological evidence related to Jerusalem, Jesus Christ’s visited places, and scientific perspectives on His existence: * Archaeological Evidence of Jerusalem: * Jerusalem, a city with a rich history, has been extensively studied by archaeologists. While direct evidence of Jesus’s presence in Jerusalem is scarce, several significant discoveries shed light on the city’s ancient past. * The Pool of Bethesda: According to the Gospel of John, Jesus healed a paralyzed man at the Pool of Bethesda. Archaeologists have discovered the remains of this ritual pool surrounded by five colonnades in Jerusalem, providing evidence for its existence1. * Pilate’s Boulevard: Archaeologists have uncovered a 2,000-foot-long boulevard built by Pontius Pilate. This street likely connected the Pool of Siloam to the Temple Mount, a holy place where ancient Jewish pilgrims worshiped2. * Jesus’s Visited Places: * While direct evidence of Jesus’s visits is challenging to find, some sites are associated with His life: * Nazareth: Jesus’s childhood home was Nazareth. Archaeological digs in Nazareth have revealed insights into the lifestyle of people during that time, including the type of homes and possessions they had3. * Dalmanutha: The Bible mentions Jesus visiting Dalmanutha. Archaeological findings suggest that Dalmanutha was a wealthy fishing town where Jews and pagans coexisted4. * Artifacts and Relics: * James’s Ossuary: James, Jesus’s brother, was buried in an ossuary engraved with “James, son of Joseph” and the unusual addition, “brother of Jesus.” While debated, this ossuary provides a glimpse into James’s life3. * John the Baptist’s Remains: John the Baptist’s bones were discovered in a Bulgarian church. Radiocarbon testing indicates that they date back to the time of Christ, corroborating his historical existence3. * Biblical Artifacts: The Bible Lands Museum in Jerusalem houses artifacts related to biblical events, including scenes like Abraham’s near sacrifice of Isaac and Jesus’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem5. * Scientific Perspectives on Jesus’s Existence: * While faith plays a significant role in believing Jesus’s divinity, historical evidence is limited. * Josephus: The Jewish historian Josephus mentioned Jesus in his writings, providing an external reference to His existence. * Tacitus: The Roman historian Tacitus also mentioned Jesus in his work, acknowledging His crucifixion under Pontius Pilate. * However, there is no definitive physical or archaeological proof of Jesus’s existence that would satisfy all skeptics6. In summary, while archaeological evidence provides glimpses into the past, faith and historical accounts remain central to the belief in Jesus Christ. His impact on history and culture transcends the physical artifacts we discover.

[@user-ye5fx3ep1l]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Let’s explore the archaeological evidence related to Jerusalem, Jesus Christ’s visited places, and scientific perspectives on His existence: * Archaeological Evidence of Jerusalem: * Jerusalem, a city with a rich history, has been extensively studied by archaeologists. While direct evidence of Jesus’s presence in Jerusalem is scarce, several significant discoveries shed light on the city’s ancient past. * The Pool of Bethesda: According to the Gospel of John, Jesus healed a paralyzed man at the Pool of Bethesda. Archaeologists have discovered the remains of this ritual pool surrounded by five colonnades in Jerusalem, providing evidence for its existence1. * Pilate’s Boulevard: Archaeologists have uncovered a 2,000-foot-long boulevard built by Pontius Pilate. This street likely connected the Pool of Siloam to the Temple Mount, a holy place where ancient Jewish pilgrims worshiped2. * Jesus’s Visited Places: * While direct evidence of Jesus’s visits is challenging to find, some sites are associated with His life: * Nazareth: Jesus’s childhood home was Nazareth. Archaeological digs in Nazareth have revealed insights into the lifestyle of people during that time, including the type of homes and possessions they had3. * Dalmanutha: The Bible mentions Jesus visiting Dalmanutha. Archaeological findings suggest that Dalmanutha was a wealthy fishing town where Jews and pagans coexisted4. * Artifacts and Relics: * James’s Ossuary: James, Jesus’s brother, was buried in an ossuary engraved with “James, son of Joseph” and the unusual addition, “brother of Jesus.” While debated, this ossuary provides a glimpse into James’s life3. * John the Baptist’s Remains: John the Baptist’s bones were discovered in a Bulgarian church. Radiocarbon testing indicates that they date back to the time of Christ, corroborating his historical existence3. * Biblical Artifacts: The Bible Lands Museum in Jerusalem houses artifacts related to biblical events, including scenes like Abraham’s near sacrifice of Isaac and Jesus’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem5. * Scientific Perspectives on Jesus’s Existence: * While faith plays a significant role in believing Jesus’s divinity, historical evidence is limited. * Josephus: The Jewish historian Josephus mentioned Jesus in his writings, providing an external reference to His existence. * Tacitus: The Roman historian Tacitus also mentioned Jesus in his work, acknowledging His crucifixion under Pontius Pilate. * However, there is no definitive physical or archaeological proof of Jesus’s existence that would satisfy all skeptics. Read the Bible , In it, you will find the word of life!!! Jesus Christ of Nazareth is calling you to come back Home!!!

[@user-ye5fx3ep1l]

The Son of God Jesus Christ has risen from the dead and His tomb is empty!!! He will come again in the day of Judgement, to judge the World, He created with Father and the Holy Spirit in one ☝️ Essence. Amen 🙏🏾

[@d-force9155]

Without lies, Islam is fried

[@Dr.lukwagoAsuman]

All religions are based on abstract information, which is as good as lies if well critiqued. E. g Jesus Christ, who's God pray to God/Father during crucifixion!!! Then, this is defended. True God is very misrepresented in all religions, but God is either tolerant to our mistakes or he recognises our limits on understanding him.

[@ericnjuguna8546]

Even with lies , ISLIES remains fried

[@mazbrow2692]

Without dogma Christianity is not a religion

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@ericnjuguna8546 ......................... Truth will surprise in the Hereafter. Just expect an encounter with the raging Fire. Hope it will not fry you. -05-14-24

[@ericnjuguna8546]

@@defenderoftruth3212 as long as you believe in ISLIES my brother you already in hell. The fire is burning in your heart. Your body will just join it soon. You are dead without Messiah. Jump, sing cry but you dead..

[@casta9172]

Thank you for mentioning Jesus at the end of the video because that's the most important

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@casta9172 ....................... But Prophet jESUs pbuh is not happy from the way he is being mentioned. -05-12-24

[@casta9172]

@@defenderoftruth3212 blasphemous statement,, you need to repent before it's too late for you

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@casta9172 .......................... Sorry. My beloved prophet, Prophet jESUs pbuh would not be happy with me if I will defy his teachings. -05-13-24

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@casta9172 ....................... Prophet jESUs pbuh is happy with me for not defying his teaching. -05-14-24

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@casta9172 .......................... I did not find it blasphemous because I did not defy the teaching of Prophet jESUs pbuh. -05-15-24

[@blusky7]

Thank you, Al Fadi for your ministry!

[@passion4nation]

Brothers and sisters please share these videos to your friends and family church members.. It must reach end of the world 🌏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@passion4nation ....................... What for? To have them being dragged into the raging fire of Hell? -05-12-24

[@maniemeyer8504]

Please share❤❤please share Christians

[@videolover1489]

You know brother that if you dig at Christianity then you will find a hole too. All Abraham religions are same. Some Abraham got reformed and other don't. If you compare all Abraham religion with its origins source then you will find a somewhat same problem.

[@Harbringe]

There about 10 years ago there was a collapse of the ground in front of one of the buildings in Petra. No one knew their were chambers below the ground. Suddenly the UN under its heritage mandate rushed in and closed the whole site of Petra down , months later reopened and no mention of what they found. And who paid for that the Saudi royal family. They covered it up and made it look like there was nothing to see. Many scholars claim Petra is the true Mecca and I think the Saudis know it. So does the UN but to tell the truth would destroy Islam.

[@mysotiras21]

Disturbing!

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@Harbringe ....................... Before its collapse, it is open to the public as a tourist spot. Ask those who have toured the area if there is something hidden there. If I remember right, James Bond had a film being shot there. And many other western films. -05-12-24

[@murumbamutekhele5783]

Islam is a scam of the centuries.

[@graton85dvd]

I think it is too.

[@davidbyron6981]

So would they all be in you trouble for praying in the wrong direction

[@tomtaylor6163]

Thank you for exposing this fact. I never knew about this until I started watching you guys. If this place was important the Cultures would have known about it. Certainly the Byzantines

[@casta9172]

Me too,, I just learned all of these true facts

[@kaloarepo288]

And especially the Abyssinians or Ethiopians who lived just across the Red Sea and had been Christians from the late 300's .

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@casta9172 ...................... Are you sure?

[@ethercruiser1537]

Amazing information 👍

[@davidtaylor2811]

Check out the film The Sacred City it exposes the problematics about the identification of Mecca

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@davidtaylor2811 ......................... Ask Adam in the Hereafter if where he landed and settled with his wife and bore their offspring which caused the population explosion into the entire world. -05-12-24

[@ericlima2832]

Thank you 🙏

[@user-ex9pc9ps8x]

Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

[@melchiormapa3597]

Bakka should be Hebrew during the first Temple period in jerusalem. While Mecca is sanitized 1000+yrs later. Among the historically cities of the ancient empires written in the Bible Mecca wasn't one of them. Its an imaginary ancient city.

[@RingJando]

Brilliantly organized for educational immersion - thank you brothers

[@MrMazin2]

Good job brothers. By the way, would you know if Madina (Yathrib) is ever mentioned in the Quran?

[@vladimirackermann6182]

Good work!

[@masterrichman2024]

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[@maxschon7709]

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[@thejohnwhiteproject5202]

Again, thank you for the insight and information. This helps!

[@SonOfHutch]

WHERE can i download Dr Jays presentations?!! Been looking for quite awhile now. please 🙏

[@pietbokvanrensburg8131]

Very interesting gentleman. 😎

[@sunrays472]

For the, intelligent, educated and honest people to know the truth,they should find answers to the following questions and try to understand what the secular scholars have to say about it: 1. How many centuries after the death of the Prophet the Quran was written down and how many Qurans were in circulation before it was standardized?...Where isthe real quran now? 2. Were the contents of the Quran copied from any other ancient texts? (Christian, Jewish, Pagan, local myths and fables etc.) 3. Was there one or more than one Mecca? and where is the real Mecca? 4. What is the truth behind the Zam Zam well? 5. What is the real history of kaba? How many kabas were there in existence and where is the oldest one and who built it? 6. Do history, archeology, and science support the claims of Islam? 7. What is satanic verses and why is it important for the understanding of Islam? 8. 'Without lies, ...... dies' - about which religion it is said and why? 9. One of the major functions of a Prophet is to prophecy. What are the prophecies by 'Prophet' Mohammed and what are the ones that were really fulfilled? And What is the real name of Prophet Mohammed and what does it mean? 10. Are Muslims really the descendants of Abraham and if not, who really are they and what history says about it? 11. Who are the members of trinity? 'Father, Son and the Holy Spirit' or 'God, Jesus, and Mary', as 'revealed' to Prophet Mohammed by Allah, recorded in the Quran, and believed by the Muslims? 12. What about Prophet Mohammed 's flying visit to the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Did he really visit the temple and what is the evidence for it? 13. What are the contrbutions made by Christians, jews and others vs. Muslims, for the benefit of mankind? 14. Is there any difference between a Muslim with exposure to western ideas, thoughts and education and one without any exposure to the same? If there is any difference, what is the reason for the difference and what is the basis for the western thoughts, educaton etc. that makes the difference? 15. I am giving below the names of the founders of modern religions and also some positive and negative human traits. You decide for yourself who is the person who has all the negative traits and who's the person who has all the positive traits: a) Founders of modern religions: Gowthama Budha, Mahaveer Jain, Zorastar, Jesus Christ, Mohammed Nabi and Guru Nanak. b) Negative traits: Hatred, fanaticism, religious intolerance, violence, mass murder, womanizing, pedophilia, cunningness, coveteousness, mental imbalance, suicidal tendencies, dacoity, slave trading, ruthlessness, lieing, cunningness and deception. C) Positive traits: Love, care, compassion, peace, sacrifice, forgiveness, reconciliation, positivity, openness, truthfulness, inclusiveness and honesty. 16. What is the history of the black stone and where was it before being placed in the quoba? 17. Who is Al Qudam and what does the name mean? 18. What is the a) Number of wars waged and the people killed by the P...t. b) What is the number of decoities committed by him. C) the number of sex slaves owned by him and d) the number of wives he married? 19. Is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the God of Prophet Mohammed and the Muslims (Allah) the same? If not, who is Allah and what is his origin? 20. How a religion that was started in Arabia, claims the God of the Jews, their scriptures, their prophets, their teachings, their way of life, their land, their doctrine, and their Holy places as its own? And what happened to the Jews, Christians, and the Pagans, the sons of the soil in the 6th century middle east, and who occupies their land now? 21. How did P...t M....d die? Who killed him and why? Note: Watch channels like cira international, harris sulthan, Asli nabi, pfander,CP etc for enlightenment. Everyone has the right to believe or not to believe anything he or she wants But see to it that no one fools you in the name of religion and brainwash you to hate/harm your fellow humans.For the, intelligent, educated and honest people to know the truth,they should find answers to the following questions and try to understand what the secular scholars and researchers have to say about it 1. How many centuries after the death of the Prophet the Quran was written down and how many Qurans were in circulation before it was standardized?...Where isthe real quran now? 2. Were the contents of the Quran copied from any other ancient texts? (Christian, Jewish, Pagan, local myths and fables etc.) 3. Was there one or more than one Mecca? and where is the real Mecca? 4. What is the truth behind the Zam Zam well? 5. What is the real history of kaba? How many kabas were there in existence and where is the oldest one and who built it? 6. Do history, archeology, and science support the claims of Islam? 7. What is satanic verses and why is it important for the understanding of Islam? 8. 'Without lies, ...... dies' - about which religion it is said and why? 9. One of the major functions of a Prophet is to prophecy. What are the prophecies by 'Prophet' Mohammed and what are the ones that were really fulfilled? And What is the real name of Prophet Mohammed and what does it mean? 10. Are Muslims really the descendants of Abraham and if not, who really are they and what history says about it? 11. Who are the members of trinity? 'Father, Son and the Holy Spirit' or 'God, Jesus, and Mary', as 'revealed' to Prophet Mohammed by Allah, recorded in the Quran, and believed by the Muslims? 12. What about Prophet Mohammed 's flying visit to the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Did he really visit the temple and what is the evidence for it? 13. What are the contrbutions made by Christians, jews and others vs. Muslims, for the benefit of mankind? 14. Is there any difference between a Muslim with exposure to western ideas, thoughts and education and one without any exposure to the same? If there is any difference, what is the reason for the difference and what is the basis for the western thoughts, educaton etc. that makes the difference? 15. I am giving below the names of the founders of modern religions and also some positive and negative human traits. You decide for yourself who is the person who has all the negative traits and who's the person who has all the positive traits: a) Founders of modern religions: Gowthama Budha, Mahaveer Jain, Zorastar, Jesus Christ, Mohammed Nabi and Guru Nanak. b) Negative traits: Hatred, fanaticism, religious intolerance, violence, mass murder, womanizing, pedophilia, cunningness, coveteousness, mental imbalance, suicidal tendencies, dacoity, slave trading, ruthlessness, lieing, cunningness and deception. C) Positive traits: Love, care, compassion, peace, sacrifice, forgiveness, reconciliation, positivity, openness, truthfulness, inclusiveness and honesty. 16. What is the history of the black stone and where was it before being placed in the quoba? 17. Who is Al Qudam and what does the name mean? 18. What is the a) Number of wars waged and the people killed by the P...t. b) What is the number of decoities committed by him. C) the number of sex slaves owned by him and d) the number of wives he married? 19. Is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the God of Prophet Mohammed and the Muslims (Allah) the same? If not, who is Allah and what is his origin? 20. How a religion that was started in Arabia, claims the God of the Jews, their scriptures, their prophets, their teachings, their way of life, their land, their doctrine, and their Holy places as its own? And what happened to the Jews, Christians, and the Pagans, the sons of the soil in the 6th century middle east, and who occupies their land now? 21. How did P...t M....d die? Who killed him and why? Note: Watch channels like cira international, harris sulthan, Asli nabi, pfander,CP etc for enlightenment. Everyone has the right to believe or not to believe anything he or she wants But see to it that no one fools you in the name of religion and brainwash you to hate/harm your fellow humans.

[@123dsj123]

You have good questions and concerns. The questions and concerns are repeating. You might want to edit your comment and remove the repeated.

[@sunrays472]

@@123dsj123 Thank you

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@sunrays472 If you ask so many questions. You don’t want any answers in the first place pace. Your claim about western thoughts is also absurd.🥴🤣 Is western thought the highest authority for morality? Let’s have a discussion. Let’s see who will answer questions and who will run. You are a runner when your criteria are under investigation.

[@sunrays472]

@@AlonzoHarris235 i. I try to motivate the readers to ask questions and find answers themselves. ii. I only made reference to western ideas, thoughts and education, not to morality. Where did you get the idea of morality from?.. may be the q...n? iii. I never lay down any criteria for anything. May be you are not intelligent enough to understand my questions...Now you have proved yourself a...d.

[@peterchieshe1474]

Good advice. Excellent interrogations and incisive inquest in search of the TRUTH.❤

[@nikicavujovic2332]

Brothers, your work is wonderful. Thanks for your efforts! God bles both of you! Are you thinking about preparation of a book in which will be incorporate all findings regarding the SIN in last few years? This book can be financed with some kind of subscription? Please, think about the idea.

[@ashrafali-yf7ed]

Great job

[@digitalali6550]

al fadi head gear looks auesome!..and mecca is 908 miels away from jerusalem. .so its a long desert heat suicidal walk god ordered propeht ibrahim and his wife hajera and son ishamel to make.. god knows best.. could it be becca valley near lebanon?

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Ibrahim is not from Jerusalem. -05-19-24

[@lakshmiamavasai5527]

GOD BLESS U BRO ❤❤❤❤❤

[@hichamboulos1155]

GREAT VIDEO!

[@flamingchillum]

Nice. Thank you.

[@KonstantinosPhillippikos]

Mecca didn't exist back then. Muslims started to gain power invading Damascus and then Egypt

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Go on existing with your delusion. -05-13-24

[@saloanyousif3308]

Lord Jesus bless you

[@zotax6948]

hey fellas just in case KZbin decides to kick you off the platform is their an alternate we can find you and your videos on??? I ask because of the censorship going on these days.

[@danieladedosugbadero7373]

The sane world can no longer, in good conscience, continue to ignore the seminal work of Jay Smith and his team regarding the origin of Islam and Quran in a city that was not in the seventh century.

[@azedinebenammar4339]

Jay, I think you are getting closer to the truth. I think you should next focus on Medina.

[@satmat6566]

Thanks bro !! Jay did not forget his leather Jacket !!! No koranic parchements dating muhammad and uthman !!! I have heard that there were a few muhammads even prior to Islam and different places called Mecca prior to the Hijaz 's Mecca ! Moreover the Modern Mecca does not have any archaelogical findings and artifacts as well as no historical records !

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@satmat6566 ............................... Jerusalem is the home of many Muslim prophets. Where are their graves now? Why no archeological evidence can be found to prove their existence? -05-14-24

[@satmat6566]

@@defenderoftruth3212 But Allah should do better for Mecca !! all the prophets are buried in Mecca according to Islamic sources!! Boomerang effect on Islam eveytime!!!

[@ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439]

Do glad yall are talking about baka بكه، which is rooted with بكي

[@xavierbesnard9201]

Thanks !

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Great news

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Not new. Recycled issue.

[@Trabunkle]

Wow! Even some atheists are watching the videos! They must be learning about Islam to criticize it, just like they criticize Christianity!

[@Bible-Christian]

Hi My brothers and sisters in Christ. You are doing a great Job presenting the Truth to Muslims. I noticed on your website that it says courses. But clicking on it. It says no courses, When will there be Courses available so we can invest in it ?.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@Bible-Christian ....................... We Muslims know the Truth. We don't want to be presented with Falsehood. We don't want to languish in the raging fire of Hell. Just embrace yours if you think yours is the truth. Go with what Jay Smith wants you to swallow. Hope it's not a bitter pill. But we are happy with what we have. We don't want to embrace yours. -05-12-24

[@Bible-Christian]

@@defenderoftruth3212 If that is true , Then it is very weird that you react and emote about it. Contradiction.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@Bible-Christian ............... I'm reacting to what you said, "You are doing a great Job presenting the Truth to Muslims." We believe we are on the side of the Truth. So, we don't need to be presented with what we believe is not the Truth. -05-13-24

[@Bible-Christian]

@@defenderoftruth3212 If that is the truth. Then why are you reacting. Then you did not need to react. So you contradict yourself.

[@Mary_Ann21]

​@Bible-Christian, why do Christians react when muslim talk about the trinity, such a usless debate

[@sirupate]

Great stuff, you guys were way ahead of Shoemakers book, and I’m glad (except for the existence of Mohammad) he agrees with you👍

[@MichaelPetek]

A Hebrew euphemism for the Sanctuary is makom. The equivalent in Arabic is makaan. Could Mecca be any place where the Kaaba happens to be?

[@maxschon7709]

And Mecca might be Just the Word for a sanctuary. That because there where MORE then one holy place finding Mecca is difficult. Was it Jerusalem? Petra? Hira? Kerbala? In the 8th century they choose the Dessert place in today Saudi-Arabia.

[@MichaelPetek]

@@maxschon7709 Sanctuaries could be mobile and portable, as was the Israelite one before they built the Temple. Air Force One is similar. It's any aircraft as soon as the President of the United States steps on board.

[@davidchase1439]

No mention of Mecca anywhere before 8th century 741 AD

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@davidchase1439 .................... What's wrong if there is no mention of Mecca before 8th century 741 AD? Mecca is where mankind exploded into the entire world through Adam and his wife. Mecca is most blessed place chosen by God to be inhabited by the first man. No doubt it is the center of gravity. -05-14-24

[@sultanahamed2484]

Indirectly both collars r saying that God is sending revelation to them through jibreal shortly both will declare themselves as prophets great hypocrats

[@davidskolik5303]

I just think it’s so sad. It’s the 21st century, and people are still debating which mythology is the ONE.

[@Miserati]

huh. I was like you about 5 month ago. Do not think that you are smarter than anyone else here.

[@davidskolik5303]

Not smarter. Just more rational.

[@skatter44]

@@davidskolik5303 Is it more rational to believe that all of reality just came into existence by itself, out of nothing, on it's own or that it was brought into existence by a supreme being?

[@123dsj123]

@@davidskolik5303 There is nothing rational about the denial of God's existence.

[@davidskolik5303]

@@123dsj123I deny the existence of leprechauns as well.

[@thetjhproject]

Medina is a very common word that means city. Where is Medina exactly

[@theoarsman1]

Jews, Christians, Gnostics, Manichaeans, Zoroastrians, Pagans, etc, abounded in Baalbek. The people were farming and trading.

[@WitnessOfTrinity]

It’s most likely from hell

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@WitnessOfTrinity ................ Try to look for Mecca when you are already there. -05-19-24

[@WitnessOfTrinity]

@@defenderoftruth3212 says he who takes command from shaytan

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@WitnessOfTrinity ....................... Unfortunately, Shaytan will not accompany you to Hell. He will only ridicule you for having being deceived by him. -05-22-24

[@WitnessOfTrinity]

@@defenderoftruth3212 There is none amongst you with whom is not an attache from amongst the jinn (devil). They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, with you too? Thereupon he said: Yes, but Allah helps me against him and so I am safe from his hand and he does not command me but for good. Shaytan has been laughing ever since

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@WitnessOfTrinity ..................... When Shaytan was cursed by Allah SWT, he asked for a respite not to be put in Hell until the Day of Judgment. He too asked to sway to his side the children of Adam, and only those that he cannot sway are those who believed in Allah SWT. But on the Day of Judgment, he will deny those that he had swayed, and will laugh at them. Deceitful, indeed. -05-24-24

[@KiamatChange-ke8nd]

What Arabic used in Quran? Is that a quraisy dialect?

[@solaura6218]

Yes. Definitely Qirazy.

[@harshmanhv]

​@@solaura6218nopes it's kufi dilect ..... Qureshi dilect was neither chosen in 1924(canonisation in Egypt) nor when this was canonised for the world in 1980s

[@solaura6218]

@@harshmanhv I understand perfectly my dear. How is that not Qwaizy?

[@solaura6218]

@@harshmanhv Exactly. How is that not Qwaizy?

[@solaura6218]

@@harshmanhv Qwaizy man qwaizy!

[@India1India]

Great presentation... Jesus Christ bless you both

[@user-kw3jw9gh4p]

From everywhere!

[@sheikhboyardee556]

Applying the questions to Islam that was asked of Christianity. Christianity was attacked for 200-300 years & survived just fine. Archeological research has supported Christianity & what is written in the Bible. No one is picking on Islam, Islam is being treated just as Christianity has been treated. The problem is that the research is not being kind to Islam.

[@123dsj123]

You wrote: “Researchers are not being kind to Islam.” When was Islam ever kind to researchers?

[@samchs222]

​@@123dsj123 Christianity stood fine. As much as I have had spiritual experiences as a Christian, I felt I needed to listen to archeological and other historical evidences. The text in Quran and archeological evidence doesn't support same

[@sheikhboyardee556]

@@123dsj123 No, I said "research is not being kind to Islam." I'm sure the researchers are doing their job fairly & Islam is failing on it's own.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@sheikhboyardee556 .......................... Who made the attack on Christianity? It's not the attitude of the Muslims to attack other religions. So if you say Christianity has been attacked for 200-300 years, it must the Christians who attacked it. What will be the result of Christians attacking Christianity? Naturally, it's positive. Naturally, no Christian in his right mind would let his religion down. So, it's a bogus attack. -05-12-24

[@peterchieshe1474]

Research is unbiased. It doesn't take sides but goes after discovering the truth via evidence and this without prejudice. Thanks.

[@musicman5724]

THE PLACE ❌ THE BOOK❌ THE MAN❌ EXIT ISLAM ☪️ ❌❌❌ THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH ✝️✅✅✅

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@musicman5724 ........................ You'll be surprised by the Truth in the Hereafter. Just expect to have an encounter with the raging Fire. -05-12-24

[@musicman5724]

@@defenderoftruth3212 So based on what do you make this claim?

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@musicman5724 ................... Based on the word of God Allah SWT. -05-13-24

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

So do you follow 10 commandment tho?

[@musicman5724]

@@mugiwaraluffy6791 Why you ask, what has this to do with this topic?

[@mysticalvoice]

I am glad to see that Sam Shamoun left the religion which he defended, isn't there anyone who hasn't fallen after insulting me and Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)? When I saw this video, I do not know whether Sam and his cohorts realised that even after 2000 years, so many reformed Christians, who are claiming to be in the Holy Spirit (Isaiah 11:2) still searching for the pages of the Bible to find out the truth. 2000 years after here, so many Christians still do not know/ do not have God and theology. This video is a direct evidence to see Christians are not guided into the truth, (lest ignore all the truths), the fruits spirit, prophecies in the book of Joel (God will give wisdom to daughters and sons, they will prophesy, God will write his law in the minds of people , Jeremiah), the promise of Holy Spiirt in the Gospel of John, all these evidences are missing in the life of these Christian scholars. I am shocked to see Sam Shamoun says, whoever believes in the Trinity are his bretherens. But this was not his view about Catholics and Orthodox believers when he was a Calvinist. Sam goes on saying that he will be nasty with Muslims and JW believers, because they are not trinitarians. But in the scripture, believing in co-equal and co-eternal trinity is not a doctrine nor a criteria , but the evidence of Holy Spirit is a prime criteria. Can these people really claim they have the holy spirit? , Sam Do you and all the Christian scholars have Holy Spirit? The scripture says: whoever does not have the spirit of Jesus does not belong to Christ. (Romans 8:9) I also praise Sam Shamoun for his acknowledgement when he said: Jesus spoke to the people of his time , and we should seek the meaning of his words intented and understood in those days. We should go back to his time to understand the meaning of the words of Christ. When we go back to the time of Jesus Christ, we realize that Jesus Christ wasn't worshipped as God/Deity in his time and never after his ascension. Of course the Bible says that Jesus was worhsipped in the boat, on the mountain, roughly 7/8 times Jesus was worshipped. But as we ponder deeply into these worships, we realize that, these worships were acts of Reverences, how we honour a Prophet, King or Priest. They were not intented to be deity worship. This is why a congregational worhsip with prayers from Psalm or songs of Praise weren't given to Jesus Christ. In Daniel 2:46 , King worshipped Daniel. Did Jesus claim that he is God?. We must look back in time to see what does it mean to eb God in a Jewish society 2000 years ago. We will find out that , receiving the tile "God/Son of God" is a title of honour conferred on Prophets and some high priests. So the claim Jesus was making: "I am the son of God" is making claim that "I am chosen by God", I am God's elect " etc. The jews were denying this title for Jesus Christ. (John 10:30-37, Psalm 82:6-7, Hebrews 3:1, 5:5, Acts 3:13, 3:26, 4:27, 4:30) Sam Shamoun goes on saying about Tawassul/intercession which the Muslims pray to Prophet Muhammad/Saints/Imams. This is what disciples did after the ascension of Jesus Christ (One mediators between man and God the Man Jesus, 2 Timothy 3:6, Hebrews 3:1, Acts 4:30). the Apostles who are filled with Holy Spirit, praying to God the Father, through the waseela (intercession) of his Holy Servant Jesus. This is the same view Islam and Islamic saints expressing about Jesus Christ, and says Christians are in a misunderstaning who jesus was. In the Hadith 38 in 40 Hadith Nawawi, God spoke about His servant who become His friend, God becomes his hand, feet, ear, eyes, and tongue of His servant. This is what Jesus in the Gospel of John 14:10 and the union of Jesus with God the Father is same as the union of Jesus with his followers , John 17:21-22, Jesus even grant his glory to his true disciples. The Muslim mystics explain this union as Fana fiLLAH. This is why after the ascension of Jesus Christ, the holy spirit came upon the disciples, and they worshipped only God the Father, and making Jesus the holy servant of God (Acts 3:13, 4:27-30) a mediator in prayer. If jesus was truly God and deity , and co-equal and co-eternal and not as God and Son fo God according to the Law (Psalm 82:6-7, John 10:33-35), then the apostles were in false spirits and they were committing blasphemy and heresy for saying "Holy servant of God" (Acts 4:27-30). Of course Jesus is called Image of God, Adam is called image of God, all mankind are image of God. God glorify some of His servants with special abilities and powers. As God Put His spirit in them (Isaiah 42:1) God works through them. Jesus says that those who believe in him do greater work than his works. This is again proving that Christians misunderstood who jesus was. Becausse , if jesus was trinuine co equal and co eternal god in flesh, then it would be blasphemy to say, we can do greater work that Jesus (God) , because of our belief in God, that we can do greater things than the works of God! To me, it seems like Sam Shamoun is on a journey to Islam and truth. I welcome Sam Shamoun to debate or discuss with the on these point I have raised here. I hope Sam Shamoun will stick to the principles he proposes in this video> 1- understand the scriptures in context. 2- Evalaute the claims of Jesus about himself in accordance with the entirety of the scripture. 3- research for evidences for he worship of Jesus in the New Testament. When the divinity of Jesus was not revealed during his life on earth, it is heresy to quote the worhsip he received in this world while he was still living on this earth. Those who worship Jesus wasn't worshipping him as deity. but giving reverences to Jesus as son of God according to the law (Psalm 82:6-7), this is why after the ascension of Jesus , the worship (reverence on a personal face to face level didnt continue) Only specifici people who came to Jesus for some miracle or deliverence did worship (same as in Daniel 2:46) in the Exodus, Moses bowed down to his father in Law, Jacob fell on his face before Esau his brother and worshipped him seven times. Jesus did not say to anyone who visited him: Stay back, my disciples are going to worship me at 9 AM. Join the worhsip for more blessings. The disciples did not organise the worship of Jesus after his ascension. They still went to pray in the synagogues and jewish temple. Jesus had his ministry for three years, during this time, he received only 7 worships from visitors. Mary his mother, Moses and Elijah who appeared before Jesus and his disciples did not worship him! Moses and Elijah should have known triune God and came to see the second person in trnity, they should have worshipped Jesus co-eqaully and co-eternally with the father. but they missed worshipping Jesus. Even a voice from heaven heard, "This is my son, listen to him". Even at that time, there is no worship of Jesus Christ.

[@davidchase1439]

Pretty much shown kotan editedvompiled over century later after muhammed and uthman written far north translated off from Syrian aramiac

[@mhamedkhattabi5863]

Nothing from what they talk about can be called acadamic work . This is just pure polemics . The man is christian evangalist trying to convert Muslims to his faith which is based on books written by unkown authors 😅

[@mysotiras21]

YAWN. this is a summary of serious academic research. The Qur'an is the work of an unknown author. Worse, the Qur'an is a CESSPOOL of errors, evils, contradictions, absurdities, plagiarized materials, and general incoherence. Whoever wrote that asinine little book was simply less intelligent than toothpaste. If you claim that God wrote it, you are calling God an idiot. That's blasphemy.

[@Martin-lv1xw]

Amen, brothers in Jesus Christ.

[@physiocrat7143]

When the divine and uncreated biok fell out of heaven the ring binder came open by accident and the pages fell out on the sand. It was a windy day and they got blown about all over the place and the profit had to run around collecting them. As Allah could be careless at times, the pages hadn't been numbered and that is why the chapters were just arranged in order of length.

[@alanwood4968]

There are better uses for towels than sticking it on your head. lol

[@Jibril_is_Al-Abyad]

Please add Indonesian sub sir. Here in Indonesia we need many videos like this! Thanks...God bless 😇

[@necmettinmutlu306]

Bacca is a kind of hat worn by pilgrims. In the verse, the first house built for people is the house that people bless with a hat. Pilgrims wear hats to show that they are pilgrims. Also, the qibla is the sun. Before the prophet, people turned to the haram mosque as qibla.

[@coltonconner782]

That’s so damaging Amen

[@yeldaRooBTKAM]

God bless you both. ✝️⛪️🙏❤️

[@shahadathkadir]

And this is the same guy who said there are many different Quran . which ones did not come from Mecca ?

[@majdishaladi7854]

I am unbelievably proud to be a Muslim If someone takes an honest take on history and all the views and stories people presented there is none as bullet proof and stable as Islamic view presented by the prophet who was guided by the angel Gabriel There is only one God, and the message does not depend on anything else than this...a true monotheistic religion which protects me and my brothers from all the BS going around And for anyone who cares...if you really believe Dr. has a point...think ! Think!

[@singatakberpura]

Ex Muslim here..Adopted hinduism a year ago. Thank you for pointing out the fallacies in the Quran

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

Can you recite surah al - fatihah if you ex-muslim

[@valmadf]

​ Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her

[@singatakberpura]

@@mugiwaraluffy6791 Yes but why should i call allah the most merciful and most gracious?Why should i call him the master of the day of judgement. Are you trying to trick me into saying it? I dont believe Muhammad is a prophet or Allah is god.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@singatakberpura .................. Hinduism has many gods. Who is supreme among them? Which of them do you pray to? Is Ghandi is one of your gods? -05-14-24

[@singatakberpura]

@@defenderoftruth3212 I pray to Lord Krishna,i follow the Bhagavad Gita. I joined a Hare Krishna Temple in Berlin

[@danieljosing8335]

The Spiritkind The Most Holy Ones of The Most Holy Place of The Tabernacle 9 Angelkind Seraphim Cherubim Thrones Dominion ( Adam and Second Adam) Powers Virtues Principalities Archangel Angel The Angelkind ( Children of God ) Ephesians 6 : 12 We are fighting against Powers and Principalities Mark 12 : 25 We shall all be like Angelkind Pslams 82 : 6 We are made by God. Hence, whomever John 3 : 16, keeping in mind, Mathew 6 and 7 can Philippians 4 : 13 for we no longer Colossians 3 : 8 but Exodus 20 : 2-17 and Deut 5 : 6-21. Eternity >>> This World >>> Eternity This world has alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, the first abd The Last. We all are born in Spirit in immersed Waters before water broke to breathe oxygen. God is Light, not Darkness. Children of Light will be separated from Children of Darkness. Eternity shall resume after this world. Hence, New Earth, New Heaven, and New Jerusalem . Remember that our Christ said about mansions. Revelation 21 and 22 The Magnificent Mansions of Abba Father.

[@SiberianGravy]

Fable: DON'T ARGUE WITH DONKEYS The donkey said to the tiger: - "The grass is blue". The tiger replied: - "No, the grass is green." The discussion heated up, and the two decided to submit him to arbitration, and for this they went before the lion, the King of the Jungle. Already before reaching the forest clearing, where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to shout: - "His Highness, is it true that the grass is blue?". The lion replied: - "True, the grass is blue." The donkey hurried and continued: - "The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts and annoys me, please punish him." The king then declared: - "The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence." The donkey jumped cheerfully and went on his way, content and repeating: - "The Grass Is Blue"... The tiger accepted his punishment, but before he asked the lion: - "Your Majesty, why have you punished me?, after all, the grass is green." The lion replied: - "In fact, the grass is green." The tiger asked: - "So why are you punishing me?". The lion replied: - "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave and intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that come and bother me with that question." The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who does not care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on arguments that don't make sense... There are people who, no matter how much evidence and evidence we present to them, are not in the capacity to understand, and others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and all they want is to be right even if they are not. - reminds me of how Muslims are -

[@maxschon7709]

Mecca might just had the meaning of "place" or"site" without having a destinged geografically Spot. Maybe the editors of the Quran Had NO CLUE where it really was.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

Jerusalem is in China.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@maxschon7709 .............................. God had no clue? What about creating you, do you think God had no clue how you would look like? -05-15-24

[@tahazaidomar1749]

the reason is because it is divine revelation and not man made

[@edwardemo1952]

It's two place, Mecca and Medina. Came Down for period of times for the Prophet only. After many Reciters Death on Wars, it's started to get recorded. Just like how Christianity written hundred years after Christ Died, not immedietly notes his words. Kinda like that

[@commentfreely5443]

except bible was written during lives of the disciples before they were executed, and john who was banished to island. nothing hundreds of years later. as for quran there was no mecca until recent times.

[@edwardemo1952]

@@commentfreely5443 mecca was already built by Abraham himself, but only recently it becames 'holy site' or compass to pray. Because after Abraham most prayers focused to Jerusalem a.k.a The Wall, after last prophet Muhammad SAW it was getting standarized where to pray, how many rakaat and make sure no makes up religious things added after prophet died.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@commentfreely5443 ................... Can you ask your scholars like Jay Smith and others if where Adam and Eve were landed on earth when they were thrown out from the Garden (Paradise). -05-24-24

[@subhuman3408]

0:23 ^

[@racecar15]

👍🏽

[@melaninsupergurl-vu4uv]

So Mecca was just a geographic area outpost of trade routes and merchant warlord pirates with nothing but sand, an oasis or two and camels and tents..... With a roadside tent with souvenir statues of different superstitions at best.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

In the pre-historic era, Saudi Arabia is described as a place that is "lush and green". -05-14-24

[@chriswintle664]

Madina isn't that where 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel landed

[@marierejouli6772]

Mohamed Addressing his Koraich people warning them of what happened in Sodom and Ghomorre`: Sourate Al Safphate verset 137: `And you certainly pass by them in the morning. and the night. Do you not reason then? How could Mohammed's people pass in morning and evening and see this place if they were not close? They would not have been able to make it 1200km away if they were in current Mecca but they could do so if they were in Petra.

[@henktmmr]

Thank you for revealing the truth and exposing lies again ❤ Hopefully many deceived muslims will leave islam.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@henktmmr .................. No single Muslim will be deceived by Jay Smith. -05-19-24

[@coc862]

How can you earn eternality from goodness n badness related topics.. you only earn eternality tru the NAMES THAT ARE TIED TO THE 100TH NAME

[@chriscuomo9334]

The Muslims say that mhmd was miraculously given these words by a divine being. Therefore there need be no Jews or Christians anywhere near him at the time(s) of its conveyance

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@chriscuomo9334 ........................ Of course, there is none. That is why he conveyed first the message to his wife, then to his immediate family. The conveyance to the Jews and Christians was done when he spread the message of Allah SWT throughout Mecca and then to Medina. -05-12-24

[@chriscuomo9334]

@@defenderoftruth3212 sy ko

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@chriscuomo9334 ................... Yap. And to the neighboring places in the Middle East. -05-14-24

[@maryblessing2205]

👍. 👍. 👍. 👍. 👍.

[@frimayulianto5424]

Matthew 7:21-23 Not everyone who calls out to Me: Lord, Lord! will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in heaven. On the last day many will call to Me: Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and cast out demons in Your name, and perform many miracles in Your name also? At that time I will be honest with them and say: I never knew you! Away from Me, you evildoers!" This is what will testify later in the judgment

[@davidabramovichkosciuszko4216]

❤

[@123ynotidd123]

If Mekka is a vibrant city that Roman Empire time then Rome had conquered it like Egypt.

[@Yahshua_is_Yahweh]

The Quran is not preserved and is corrupted 1. In [Sahih Muslim Book 5, Hadith Number 2286] Abu Musa called 300 Basra reciters who were the best and they said: “We used to recite a surah but we have forgotten it.” Today, that surah does not exist in the Quran. 2. Aisha, the favorite wife of Muhammad tells us In [Sunan ibn Majah 1944] , Aishah explains that the verses relating to Stoning and Adult B'reastFeeding were written down but......"A sheep ate the verses under my pillow.” 3. In [Qurtubi tafseer of Sura Ahsab Ayath 1] Aisha said, "Surah Ahzab contained 200 verses during the lifetime of prophet, When Uthman edited the copies of the Quran, 73 verses were recorded." 4. In [Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 72] “Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Quran, for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Quran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available’” 5. In [Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif, p.10] Umar was once looking for the text of a specific verse of the Quran he vaguely remembered. To his deep sorrow, he discovered that the only person who had any record of that verse had been killed in the battle of Yamama and that the verse was consequently lost 6. In [Sahih Muslim Book 12, Hadith 156] “A surah which resembled at-Tawba in length and severity was forgotten and lost.” Surah at-Tawba today has 129 verses. An entire Surah equivalent in length to this Surah 9 was “lost”! That’s 129 verses missing! 7. In [Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 184] “Malik says that several verses from chapter 9 (Sura of Repentance) have been dropped from the beginning. Among them is, ‘In the name of God the compassionate, the Merciful’ because it was proven that the length of Sura of Repentance was equal to the length of the Sura of the Cow.” Sura of the Cow (al-Baqarah) is the longest chapter with 286 verses. If Surah 9 also used to have 286 verses, then 157 verses are missing because this Surah only has 129 verses today" 8. In [ Sahih Al-bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 558] Mohammed couldn't memorize the whole Quran because He used to forget it. Muhammed said: "He has reminded me of Verses of such Suras, which I was caused to forget"

[@wileyvet815]

Nobody has ever seen the "Mother of Books"; that is the tablets that contain the Koran, which resides beside the Muslim god. ALL verses were transmitted through Gabriel to Muhammad. Since no one has seen the original, how can they make the preposterous claim of perfect preservation?

[@Dr.lukwagoAsuman]

I think all the current religious books were severally edited, and much of the information was abandoned. In the Bible, many books were not canonised, eg, the Books of Enoch, Jubilee, Barruck, etc.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@wileyvet815 ..................... The Qur'an in the Eternal Tablet/Record is not pre-written. Verses were sent down according to the need of the time. It means that recording of the verses in the Eternal Tablet/Record took also 23 years. As Allah SWT commanded Angel Gabriel to bring the revelation down to Prophet Muhammad pbuh, so it is recorded in the Eternal Tablet. And for you info, it is not only the Qur'an that is being recorded in the Eternal Record. Even our deeds. Whatever we do, every deed of ours is recorded by the angels assigned to us. It will be spread-opened to us on the Day of Judgment. -05-15-24

[@Dr.lukwagoAsuman]

It's possible, that the Qur'an was not from the current location of Mecca(formally Bakka). Al Fad knows better that the earliest Muslims faced Jerusalem during prayers, and that some Qur'an Suras were written with the help of Christians &Jews. Many religious information is very abstract, in this modern world. Information like ascending through clouds/rainbows, etc can not make sense to humans who know what clouds are!! The current humans know astronomy, and we can even inquire about the exact galaxies that received those Prophets that ascended to heaven !!! God tolerates humans especially when we are ignorant about many things. It's only a basic civility requirement for us as humans to respect, care, tolerate and be positive to our fellow humans.😢

[@kalleanka9467]

We gota good sloganfrom soco speakers corner in ln London "with out lies islam dies"

[@marcelalhind]

Absolute salute to the work you guys do and also all the historians who took part in it. Clearly showing islam is false

[@Cmr_5vifail]

After so called renaissance and scientific, technological,industrial revolutions west is so steeped in ignorance in 2024 ,what to say of those places such long time ago,anything possible

[@sweswarupini9732]

Y these muslims can't accept to rectify their faults...

[@user-gn7fp4dd7i]

You can know it all you want but ✝️Christ is the only way❤️

[@abubakrwest1007]

I'm so impressed with this two guys. I would like you two going to your source the holy Bible

[@oemarbakri01]

haleluyah

[@ademarifaj3316]

Not defending Kuran, let's talk about the Bible,how many chapters are not in the Book,how many chapters are stolen from ancient scripts, why we have Nag Hamadi,that is gnostic Bible,who wrote Bible etc,I spend 40 years reading and research to find bit's of Truth,they saying Bible and Kuran are words of God,are they......just don't think that many of us are stupid and didn't try find origins of humanity and our beliefs......

[@ryn8068]

I assume that Shoemaker does not mention that there are 114 Surahs (Chapters) in the Quran. No big deal right! Well, there are 114 verses in the Gospel of Thomas. That's not a coincidence. The Quran and Mark draw heavily from Thomas, and the Hebrew word for 114 means knowledge, not a coincidence! Thomas is the most accurate representation of Jesus's teachings.

[@simonhateley7943]

Before Uthman burned all the other Qurans did they all have 114 surahs let's see if you know your islamic history

[@ryn8068]

I have studied ibn Al Arabi for 15 years and I have studied the Gospel of Thomas. All I know about the Quaran comes from al Arabi’s writings. I’m a Sufi not a Islamic scholar.

[@simonhateley7943]

​@@ryn8068Ok but you do know about Uthman burning all the other Qurans and standardising one?

[@ryn8068]

My studies seem to indicate something fishy is going on what do know? I’m interested.

[@simonhateley7943]

​@@ryn8068I only ask because you put emphasis on the number 114 some of the Qurans that Uthman burned didn't contain 114 Surahs so if that interests you then you can look it up it's part of your history

[@TrggrWarning]

The area sounds like where Muhammad rose to the heavens.

[@user-ez8ki5xp6b]

Punishment in the grave is real

[@rossivasanth1258]

His whole intro is whacked 😂