Islam and Mecca are Fabricated!? - Mecca - In Search of a Place - Episode 3

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CIRA International

CIRA International

2 жыл бұрын

Muhammad’s biography and book of sayings were written 200+ years after his death with no eyewitness account of his life. While issues arise with the historical and critical accuracy of Muhammad, issues with Mecca undoubtedly follow. Mecca really only appears on the world stage in the 8th century though it is considered by tradition as the oldest most well-known city in history. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay debunk the timeline of Islamic traditions concerning Muhammad and Mecca compared to Jesus and the New Testament writings.
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@sottinadesina7933
@sottinadesina7933 2 жыл бұрын
Under intense historical and scientific research Islam will fall flat!!!
@chinnashekarabhandary8087
@chinnashekarabhandary8087 2 жыл бұрын
Both of the presenters deserve all applause for standing with truth and facts. Keep up the good work for the betterment of mankind.
@gideonsedrome6948
@gideonsedrome6948 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's correct
@cyberflashyt2508
@cyberflashyt2508 2 жыл бұрын
Fall in love ❤️ with the knowledge, May God Bless you guys for more wisdom 🙏🏻❤️
@atomant_7
@atomant_7 2 жыл бұрын
This is very intense analysing of facts on a forensic level. I salute these investigators !
@C-WatchTime
@C-WatchTime 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/norGaH2rq9J6Y7M....
@atomant_7
@atomant_7 2 жыл бұрын
@@C-WatchTime One thing's for sure, I get bored listening to robot voice in less than 2 seconds & will just skip.
@BLACK.ANGEL.
@BLACK.ANGEL. 2 жыл бұрын
These graphics, especially the timelines are worth gold! Very helpful! Thanks!!!
@agnettarodricks1301
@agnettarodricks1301 2 жыл бұрын
👌👍❤️🙏
@ahmadmuzakkir6792
@ahmadmuzakkir6792 2 жыл бұрын
nahh..the time lines were copied from the muslims....then they lied about every thing else....only idiot believe them
@studenthelp849
@studenthelp849 2 жыл бұрын
They are worth gold if you are IGNORANT and cannot see that beyond the timeline they are feeding you lies. Muhammed (PBUH) had scribes who recorded everything, the same as the Quran, it was written during his time but the pages were not organised into a book until much later.
@abdullmohamed3726
@abdullmohamed3726 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@mimalains5643
@mimalains5643 2 жыл бұрын
GOd uses these2 men to expose the lies in Islam God blessbyou brother
@shreedharthuljaram5680
@shreedharthuljaram5680 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice work done by you both. Can you please put the data for Mahabharat and Ramayana time line for comparative purpose.
@ophelian4646
@ophelian4646 2 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting and important! There are so many people that don't have English as their first language so I ask you to speak just a *little bit slower* so that more people can understand this, especially our Muslim friends. I'm from Sweden and it's a bit fast for me as well..
@agnettarodricks1301
@agnettarodricks1301 2 жыл бұрын
👍🙏❤️
@agnettarodricks1301
@agnettarodricks1301 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can ask them to translate in your language too, that will be great if they do…
@periloustime4618
@periloustime4618 2 жыл бұрын
Translating (i.e. Subtitling) this won't be easy. Not the translation itself, but as pointed out, Dr Jay Smith talk fast so the subtitle will appear and disappear too fast on the screen (within his talking frame). This is especially true to languages where translated words are longer than in English (Indonesian, for example) . In contrast, Dr Dan Gibson speaks slowly in all his videos which clearly shows Dr Gibson want to make sure non native English speaker understand well and that made subtitling fit well into the talking frame. Anyhow thanks to Jay Smith and Al Fadi for their unrelenting works for truth....
@ophelian4646
@ophelian4646 2 жыл бұрын
@@periloustime4618 Swedes speak English pretty well, but it's just the speed. And dr Jay Smith is a bit too fast..
@bestKaffir.underTheSon
@bestKaffir.underTheSon 2 жыл бұрын
@@ophelian4646 I can relate to what you are saying. I understand Dutch very well and I can communicate with Dutch speakers. I can understand German as well, providing that they speak slow enough for me to follow.
@sanjaymalwe3529
@sanjaymalwe3529 2 жыл бұрын
What a tragedy Apparently no one bothered to write about the “ best” of mankind, for more than 200 years after his apparent death. How many “holes in the narrative “ before the people get the message. Unbelievable spiritual blindness.
@commentfreely5443
@commentfreely5443 2 жыл бұрын
There was a guy called Fred Joseph Kindling who lived in 1824. In 3 years time someone should write a history about him. Did he exist or did i just make him up?
@sanjaymalwe3529
@sanjaymalwe3529 2 жыл бұрын
@@commentfreely5443 is he “ the best of mankind “?
@williamgarayua5878
@williamgarayua5878 2 жыл бұрын
Dear@@commentfreely5443 : Is Joseph 1824 connected to a Violent Cult opposed to every Government and having Death Penalty against Critics & Apostates? We are here diagnosing The Root of The Chaos in Mid East: THE IDOLIZATION OF THE WORST CRIMINAL EVER! 💰🐪🤺
@skolsuper8447
@skolsuper8447 2 жыл бұрын
@@commentfreely5443 Fred is dead! and he was the long lost grandad of mo, and I'm not "Kindling" My dad wrote about him and it called the Hadiths.
@shareefisaacs8328
@shareefisaacs8328 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus said: I have not come but for the lost sheep of Isreal. Jesus was a Jew. Prophet Mohammed was the prophet of the gentiles. "Israelite Jews, Ishmaelites Gentiles". Greed and impatience overcame you and the man made religion was born "Christianity". To this day you struggling to explain the trinity. You just had to somehow make jesus God. And so the script began. But you forgot Jesus was a Jew so you had to kill the character, put him in a tomb and claimed he was resurrected. I call it the born again lie. Jay i think you can take the fantasy from here seeing that you so good at creative writing.
@dipudtt
@dipudtt 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting really enjoyed the discussion 👌
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@AbdulRehman-ge2yc
@AbdulRehman-ge2yc 2 жыл бұрын
Mad persons like this man existed in past also
@borneandayak6725
@borneandayak6725 2 жыл бұрын
*Now we can make distinction between "Muhammad of faith" and "Muhammad of history"*
@treasasamuel4105
@treasasamuel4105 2 жыл бұрын
Muhammad's- story created by Arabs in later years
@shareefisaacs8328
@shareefisaacs8328 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus said: I have not come but for the lost sheep of Isreal. Jesus was a Jew. Prophet Mohammed was the prophet of the gentiles. "Israelite Jews, Ishmaelites Gentiles". Greed and impatience overcame you and the man made religion was born "Christianity". To this day you struggling to explain the trinity. You just had to somehow make jesus God. And so the script began. But you forgot Jesus was a Jew so you had to kill the character, put him in a tomb and claimed he was resurrected. I call it the born again lie. Jay i think you can take the fantasy from here seeing that you so good at creative writing.
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 2 жыл бұрын
@@shareefisaacs8328 hint, following a child rapist doesn't lead to God
@zainalarsyiq8525
@zainalarsyiq8525 2 жыл бұрын
This as these panels were saying is the problem with sources.. I saw a BBC documentary about The Historical Muhammad (PBUH) where the host during the first half of the show was going to oxford and other prominent university or library around europe looking for information on histirical narative on the Prophet SAW.. Then he said information on Historical Muhammad is so little that it almost amount to nothing.. After that for the 2nd half of the show he wen't to Arab Saudi and he interviewed only the Bedoins, which is a nomadic tribe that lives in the desert who were sheep and camel hearders and that was all he did.. The 1st university in the world was build and established by two Muslim Princess of Morroco which one of the erliest two courses offered happens to be Sirah or History in English and then we have our pride and joy the world reknown University Al-Azhar in Egypt and he didn't bother to go and check the library there.. Then at the end of the BBC Documentary he concluded that the Histoical Muhammad SAW remains unclear and shrouded in mistery so yeah, it's the problem with sources alright..
@zainalarsyiq8525
@zainalarsyiq8525 2 жыл бұрын
Also if you wanna check historical facts about an Arab or an American etc, you should first check with the corresponding expert and record of the person's nationality.. If it was the other way around i.e an Arab talking about George Washington but he only look for information from Arabic sources it would surely make no sense..
@smartlearninganddesign9543
@smartlearninganddesign9543 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the two presenters for one thing. They stood outside of the two religions while making their findings, comparisons and justaposition. As humans that has the capability of critical thinking, don't cover your eyes while searching for your lost items. Open your eyes, your mind, learn and even unlearn. And that is when you become a thinking man. Thanks once again. I can't wait to watch the next episode.
@tankatie713
@tankatie713 2 жыл бұрын
the globe is a straight map for them... don't worry about the stars. Might be the biggest jokers of all time. They make jokes at speaker's corner. like pork being banned in the UK.. damn funny jokers.
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@beelzlebulb9514
@beelzlebulb9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@tankatie713 that guy thinks of good critical thinking hahahhahahah
@tankatie713
@tankatie713 2 жыл бұрын
@@beelzlebulb9514 Yes, you will guide them like cattle to the pits of hell.
@beelzlebulb9514
@beelzlebulb9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@tankatie713 hey hey! I am guiding them to paradise on earth and hereafter!!!
@melvinmayfield470
@melvinmayfield470 2 жыл бұрын
There is so much here to glean! Salute to you gentlemen, but, beware; some will balk or worse. I have several Muslim-close-associates, whom have long had 'problems', with the 'history', of their faith. You gents have brought forth some of their queries, and, better yet, with answers! I look forward, to informing them of you. For myself, thank you, as I had distant 'middle-east'-relatives, who just couldn't 'jibe', some of the 'histories' of the narrative of Islam(may they R.I.P.), and, in their memory, I delight in programs such as yours that seek truth-above-tradition. Tradition has its place, no doubt, but truth, MUST be paramount! Thanks to you gentlemen!
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@bdol6517557
@bdol6517557 2 жыл бұрын
Both are ignorant and no knowledge of islam
@curtcoller3632
@curtcoller3632 2 жыл бұрын
"problems with the history of their faith" aren't specifically Muslim problems, Christianity has it too but prefers to cover it up.
@tankatie713
@tankatie713 2 жыл бұрын
@@bdol6517557 wrong, they have some knowledge, but they decided to make money off by deception. We pity the fools who fell for Al Smith and Phadi B.S. Try harder next time! Tell them hahahah
@jbangz2023
@jbangz2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@atikulhaider5057 You're brainwashed , MECCA did not exist until 880AD @3:49 : kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIC6d4OKr7BqepY
@raccqa
@raccqa 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to share the slides for personal and group studies? May be with rights to translate?
@petroshingalana8556
@petroshingalana8556 2 жыл бұрын
This is great insight..thank you for your program
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@randolphphillips418
@randolphphillips418 2 жыл бұрын
@@atikulhaider5057 Bro he said that The book Sahih Al bukhariiyy was the earliest source of Hadith about Prophet Muhammad??? that is absolutely fabricated. He never heard of IMAM MALLIK'S book of Hadith "AL MUWATTA" which proceeded sahih al-bukhari. Instill Al muwatta wasn't the first Hadith book. And by the way imam Mallik was born 93 after Hijjir.
@svjmk
@svjmk 2 жыл бұрын
@@atikulhaider5057 copy pasting the same comment everywhere prove that you are a fool. You want to debate with him, hahaha?? Instead of mocking historical fallacy, prove here your facts, then will think about conducting debate with him..
@svjmk
@svjmk 2 жыл бұрын
@UCIgRNt3CdhZX-cJu3g6qJAw sunnis considered bukhary as first authentic source, but shias rejecting bukhary completely. It is not the problem of Christians. Let muslims solve them. The whole quran, hadiths are all fabricated. Even quran was badly altered and changed before its compilation, do you dare to question me?? I can prove it, what else
@johngilbertkharshandi793
@johngilbertkharshandi793 2 жыл бұрын
I like it. It is so enlightening. Good work sir Jay. Keep up your good work to bring blessings to all people of the world.
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@melodybaring6342
@melodybaring6342 Жыл бұрын
@@atikulhaider5057 prove your argument with your evidence. That's simple. We need facts not emotion. Dig your claims dude.
@indigoone6702
@indigoone6702 Жыл бұрын
Can only say wow. What a research. Timeline says it all
@interqward1
@interqward1 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning. I put money aside every week to get your book when you have it ready.
@yasuaibnallah2924
@yasuaibnallah2924 2 жыл бұрын
@@zainabrugi5795 it's in your books. Christians like me will be crucified on your behalf not jesus. Lol
@masroorahmadazmi758
@masroorahmadazmi758 2 жыл бұрын
@@yasuaibnallah2924 greater is the sin greater would be salvation. Hetler, mosoluny, British empire, french empire, spanish empire, italian empire, killed millions of people to get greater salvation.
@masroorahmadazmi758
@masroorahmadazmi758 2 жыл бұрын
This is what they love doing every possible job to deceive people.
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@generalpain3458
@generalpain3458 2 жыл бұрын
@@atikulhaider5057 Go easy on Doccitor AL-Smith. He so smart even his mother is foulnd to be lying. Yeah, em bibles good for raising the back. otherwise make good door stoppers. We use em pages in the can. same like peeple in train spotting... if the pages tear easily, they gonna cut your aershole too..
@esuobongndong5423
@esuobongndong5423 2 жыл бұрын
This is a worthwhile comparative analysis! It lays bare the indices for all to see and reach a valid conclusion thereby. This is a high level research methodology at its best. As this helps to present the fact inherent (stated) in the SIN as against what happened in truth. Keep up the good work and God bless!'
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@V3RTiGo7
@V3RTiGo7 2 жыл бұрын
The Revelation has mentioned about fabrications and the forthcoming lost cults all over the world.
@V3RTiGo7
@V3RTiGo7 2 жыл бұрын
@@atikulhaider5057 dude stop copy pasting your brainwashed self-proclaimed facts. 🤦🏻‍♂️🧠
@alkamilalwafi7270
@alkamilalwafi7270 Жыл бұрын
​@@atikulhaider5057 😊
@michaelsmuvuti4789
@michaelsmuvuti4789 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you for enlightening us
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What great information. I knew much of this but didn't have it organized. This puts it all together is a timeline. Very useful.
@muse1982har
@muse1982har 2 жыл бұрын
Two bumps trying to tell something, it's better to tell you you know
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 2 жыл бұрын
@@muse1982har You need to do some reading on the subject. Nothing about Islam seems to be true.
@muse1982har
@muse1982har 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is the solution on all problems, if you have eyes that can see
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 2 жыл бұрын
@@muse1982har I feel sorry for you. You are so ignorant of your religion you have no idea of the violence, slavery & intolerance within it. Islam is on it's way out.
@riqproject1437
@riqproject1437 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheikhboyardee556 and i feel sorry for you too. we know our history and religion better but nice try to these ppl who trying to twisted the history.
@ven.emekap.anyaorah9681
@ven.emekap.anyaorah9681 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight into Islam. I have always known that something is wrong with Islam but not to the extent am seeing it now through your unpacking. May God bless your life, family, and work.
@joshuarise3650
@joshuarise3650 2 жыл бұрын
Stay far away from Islam ,far far away,raise your kids with the truth of Christ and with the deception religions outside of Christianity brings packaged in lies to deceive the uninformed innocent knowledge is power ..wolves in sheep clothing..
@ajibolakolade4500
@ajibolakolade4500 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad Thank God you quoted John 20:17 - "I am ascending ..." For him to ascend he must have died, resurrected, and then ascend, right?
@mogamadgreyson143
@mogamadgreyson143 2 жыл бұрын
Really,what do you think you've learnt from all this mans bullshit and lies, if you believe him there is something wrong g with you..
@mogamadgreyson143
@mogamadgreyson143 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajibolakolade4500 wrong,he was never crucified,nor did he die,and if he was God as Christians say why did he pray unto God?
@ajibolakolade4500
@ajibolakolade4500 2 жыл бұрын
@@mogamadgreyson143 The most attested fact about the historical Jesus is that he was crucified and died on the cross (even by secular historians). The best attempt is that he was crucified but he was stolen or replaced on the cross. But it's an eternal fact that he died by crucifixion. And we have enough evidence to say he rose again. THE TOMB IS STILL EMPTY.
@MrRukkureddy
@MrRukkureddy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! It is very useful information!!
@citra678
@citra678 2 жыл бұрын
Sooooo gooddd thanks for the HISTORIC timeline and images presentation.. really appreciate it!!! 🙌
@ukwelinauwazi5523
@ukwelinauwazi5523 2 жыл бұрын
*ubarikiwe sana ndugu yangu katika KRISTO, this is so informative, here from EAST AFRICA TANZANIA, In JESUS' name may you be blessed🙏*
@topicsandopinions5818
@topicsandopinions5818 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting discussion!!
@alizaimtiaz7040
@alizaimtiaz7040 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting presentation.
@mariuszczerniak6514
@mariuszczerniak6514 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent research... Thank you 🙏... Praying for you all😊
@Erymanthios_Kafros
@Erymanthios_Kafros 2 жыл бұрын
Great material. You guys are worth the time invested looking at your videos. Jay Smith makes the videos short duration by talking like a minigun.
@paulswang6428
@paulswang6428 Жыл бұрын
Try setting the playback speed from normal to 2x. God bless!
@AntonetteManuelAnnette
@AntonetteManuelAnnette 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion. Lots of light revealed . Thank you
@oiramnepo4768
@oiramnepo4768 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting topic, thanks for sharing Mr Fadi and Dr Jay
@inter.affairslaw3956
@inter.affairslaw3956 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! I have read both books. I have witnessed miracles along my own life and in the lives of many close to me. I respect what one can say. But the Bible proofs itself as a book that is alive (No other "book" has such power. But it is better understood when by a supernatural way it is revealed to us). We don´t actually have to go back in time to prove it is real. We can experiment it is all real right now. That is why I know it is real. Because I am a witness too and I can trust myself. And that is great!
@gazamulebadmindrastakingdo926
@gazamulebadmindrastakingdo926 2 жыл бұрын
My my my Talkin about classic rock books n reading have u the Koran I doubt take a moment u will be stunned extraterrestrial
@ashmat4852
@ashmat4852 2 жыл бұрын
then why is it full of contradictions?????
@inter.affairslaw3956
@inter.affairslaw3956 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashmat4852 God, himself will honor only those with pure and humble heart to understand most of the Bible. Those who think as to clever to question the Bible are left thinking with their own reasoning abilities. Thus, they believe it is full of contradictions.
@idahorefugeecommunityassoc6613
@idahorefugeecommunityassoc6613 11 ай бұрын
How different copies of bibles we have, and all are contradicting. Also what is happening inside Catholic Churches, I mean crimes? Why?
@averagejoe469
@averagejoe469 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question. I want to ensure you that I enjoy your channel, so I am not being skeptical. However, I was wondering if you will be covering the history of Medina some time soon?
@davidayres9682
@davidayres9682 2 жыл бұрын
I only recently discovered your youtube videos and you organizations website. I am a Christian but your teachings are solidifying my belief in Christ and his teachings!! Thank you so much for what you are doing!
@ahmadmuzakkir6792
@ahmadmuzakkir6792 2 жыл бұрын
@Tovia's Kryptonite where is your brain??
@V3RTiGo7
@V3RTiGo7 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadmuzakkir6792 I believe he has his brain in his head. I also know that Islam teaches you to condemn others like how antichrist condemn Jesus and Christianity. Keep it up so more people will discover and know your kind. Keep condemning. 🤦🏻‍♂️🧠🤣
@staubsauger2305
@staubsauger2305 2 жыл бұрын
Jay and Al Fadhi, one more thing you can do is then put the Christian timeline into the SIN timeline to give the visual comparison on how compact the Christian timeline is compared to SIN.
@ophelian4646
@ophelian4646 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing.
@josephperkins4080
@josephperkins4080 2 жыл бұрын
What's SIN?
@staubsauger2305
@staubsauger2305 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephperkins4080 SIN = Standard Islamic Narrative. The mythology of Islam that is taught to all Muslims but doesn't match the archeology, early Korans, coins, Byzantine chronicles etc. Therefor SIN = fiction and is false.
@davorfisic9626
@davorfisic9626 2 жыл бұрын
@@staubsauger2305 No the sin is what goes against God's will and is offensive to God like murder that Muhammad committed, raping of slaves, robbing the caravans, killings of people and many more..... that is the sin to God. And God came and payed for the sin of all since we weren't able to get out of it by ourselves, He payed for false Christians, or Muslims and any other that repent and come to the knowledge that they cannot do nothing without God. God is incorruptible and cannot be bought by man's works or deeds he gave his gift to everyone, but it is not everyone who will inherit His kingdom, but only those that believe till the end end endure everything to come More you have been given, more will be asked from you, that is the will of God and justice so take up your crosses and run people till the finish line.
@staubsauger2305
@staubsauger2305 2 жыл бұрын
@@davorfisic9626 "SIN" used here is an acronym (Standard Islamic Narrative) my friend, and is not the same as "sin", although you correctly describe the latter one. God Bless.
@jackryan7767
@jackryan7767 2 жыл бұрын
Great work. I enjoyed the presentation. Thanks!👍🏻🙏🏼😀
@jackryan7767
@jackryan7767 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad Thre are some God’s attributes that Islam, Christianity and Judaism agree: I share with you Bible verses in the OT and NT that witness Jesus having this attributes. God and Jesus: Forgives. Psalm 51:4 and Mark 2 Jesus forgives Judges. Joel 2 and 2 Corinthians 5:10 Is Resurrection. 2 Samuel 2:6 and John 11:25-26 Has glory. Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:5, Matthew 25:31 Receive worship. Matthew 28:17 Is the First and the Last. Isaiah 44:6 and Revelation 1:17 Is the Truth. Psalm 33:5 and John 14:6 Created the world. John 1:3 and 1:15-15 As you see, Jesus shares the attributes of God, because is God and we worship Him as such. Now let me ask you: Why Muslims share Allah’s attributes with Mohamed? Why you put his name next to Allah’s. 9:29. 24:54. 8:1 49:1. 33:36. 33:56 48:9. 8:24 9:26. 58:21-22 5:92. 3:31-32 9:24. 33:6 33:22. 2:279 Bukhari 6944 “Then he said for the third time and add, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE EARTH BELONGS TO ALLAH AND HIS APOSTLE…. Bukhari 16 Bukhari 6632 ……should I go on? Mohamed was a sinner but in your theology, people need to believe in Allah and Mohamed to be saved. Shirk!!! Where is one God only? In your books I see 2 ..or more, because Allah is “one of” and “the best of creatorS.”
@blackstone70
@blackstone70 2 жыл бұрын
i am learning so much from here Thanks Both of you
@ruslynmpasaribu438
@ruslynmpasaribu438 2 жыл бұрын
Enlightening, an eye opener
@marschlosser4540
@marschlosser4540 2 жыл бұрын
Be blessed, always.
@madgeo4u
@madgeo4u 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have this presentation for download ?
@bryanjones7139
@bryanjones7139 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me how to slow the speech down. The speaker is so excited to share his story but I cannot keep up with him.
@jalaluddinahmadshaharudin1106
@jalaluddinahmadshaharudin1106 2 жыл бұрын
I am born a Moslem. There is a saying in my language that say "anything that is bad come from me and everything that is good come from God". How could anything good comes from a punishing God. I know I am more forgiving than God that created hell to punish those who disobey for eternity. All the good in religion come out the hearts of men who thought good about the religion. Islam came to South East Asia in the 7th century, but it was almost opposite of the Islam that came in the 14th century which more Draconian. The earlier version is more spiritual. By bringing you closer to God consciousness it also empower you with miraculous power. The second version disempowered you to just follow the interpretation of religious leaders who have the power to throw you in the dungeon according to their judgement.
@seanchristopher2150
@seanchristopher2150 2 жыл бұрын
Jalaluddin, perhaps you are not familiar with the historical method? However, what Al-Fadi and Dr. Jay Smith are making clear is that based on the historical method and value of canonicity there is no shred of doubt that the Quran is a forgery. I pray you wake up to the reality you have been misled your whole life. However, the fact you have found this channel will help you do some soul searching and realize there is no hope in Islam because it is deceit from the demon called Allah whom Satan has used to keep you down, and that Mohammad is not a prophet, but only a warlord from Arabia-Petraea, whose narrative was fictionalized by writers not even from the Mecca and Medina area. Do some real research and stop spiritualizing a gross falsification that has subjugated your people. "Wake up, sleeper and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine upon you" (Ephesians 5:14).
@robertbenoel4720
@robertbenoel4720 2 жыл бұрын
jalaluddin , right , all religions start slowly spiritually , when the leaders start to have a nice amount of followers , they start little by little imposing new laws and rules , until the religion becomes a dominant way of life for the believers , after that they come up with hell and the devil to scare the followers , by this time the followers are completely dominated ,
@jalaluddinahmadshaharudin1106
@jalaluddinahmadshaharudin1106 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanchristopher2150 When I taught history, sometimes students ask me where do I get my information. How can I tell them that I can remember my past lives as well as others through remote viewing. That is why left my job as the world are not ready to know the truth. I did my degree and post graduate program without attending classes or read books. I only did my papers and exams after making arrangements with my professors. With such ability I can clearly see religions are mental programing to block your memory from realizing that you are an extension of Source.
@jalaluddinahmadshaharudin1106
@jalaluddinahmadshaharudin1106 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertbenoel4720 When anyone exhibited supernatural powers people would want to know how he got such powers. Then the followers are told of the individual process by which they activated their DNA.This is natural in any parts of the world. In India the British labeled them as fakirs, but nonetheless the few people who received such teaching learnt of their own divinity and transcend the dimensions. In the land where humans were enslaved by the annunarkis and the Reptilians for their energy source, such knowledge were prohibited. The Abrahamic religions grew out of the lies and cover up of such revelation by Akhenaten. Abraham try to reserruct his teaching. It was then the Reptilians decide to create Judaism through Moses, who entered the royal family by the same way Akhenaten did. He however had no miraculous power but a technology was used to create a group of followers until it grew to be a powerful religion to control the mind of mankind. Jesus was born into the bloodline of the Essenes who practice the orriginal teaching of Akhenaten. Through the practice of worshipping the Divine Feminine he showed his followers how to move the Kundalini energy to the heart and throat chakra. This enable them to experience the Kryst consciousness. "Kryst" is the abreviation of ka ra ya sa and ta which are the Atlantean names for the first five chakra. It was then the Reptilians created Christianity to cover up the true teaching of Jesus. Seven hundred years later Akhenaten came back as Mohammed to teach mankind how to acquire the Krysthla consciousness, with further opening up of the third eye and crown chakra. If one has successfully moved the Kundalini energy to the heart and throat chakra through the worshipping of Divine Feminine, can open the third eye and crown chakra through the art of kissing. This teaching was brought to Europe by the crusaders who learnt it from the followers of Mohammed, in the story form of the Sleeping Beauty. The Reptilians had successively created Islam to cover-up the true teaching of Mohammed and the perfect mind control technique. Now when religion cannot serve it's purpose they created the vaccine to link humans to the three quantum computers beneath Geneva, Phoenix and Singapore. These computers are connected to the server on Mars which harnesses the conscious energy from human to the conscious intelligence on the planet known as Betelgeuse in the Orion constellation. Fortunately the Galactic Federation of Worlds had sabotaged the satellites in the Earth atmosphere and the server on Mars.
@robertbenoel4720
@robertbenoel4720 2 жыл бұрын
@@jalaluddinahmadshaharudin1106 purely and simply nonsense , unless your narrative is simply a joke ............
@mallamibrahim9606
@mallamibrahim9606 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed it, i was a muslim and lived in Saudi Arabia for 18 yrs, the timeline revealed the truth.
@beelzlebulb9514
@beelzlebulb9514 2 жыл бұрын
@Patje Yashara How can you believe in me if you don't have religion? Wait, yes all the false religions.
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@beelzlebulb9514
@beelzlebulb9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameskonnovitch are you sure about that? bahahhahahahhahhaah wait, Paul's version right? hahahhahahahahahhahahhahahhah You don't even have a real book... Look what we've convinced you... And the hatred we stirred...
@beelzlebulb9514
@beelzlebulb9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@atikulhaider5057 Dr Jay's PHD is in....... missionary positions hahhahhahahhahah you gotta be kidding me... we imparted him certain skills of presentation, or rather misrepresentation!!!! Hell fire fodder coming yum yum
@beelzlebulb9514
@beelzlebulb9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameskonnovitch We got your back! Now granted, I have not burdened you; yet sly as I am, I took you in by deceit! - Corinthians 12:16
@SelvarajuCharlesPaul
@SelvarajuCharlesPaul 28 күн бұрын
Thank you very much, Al Fadi Sir. God bless your ministry
@rob7724
@rob7724 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any slides like these for historical Christianity?
@philipoladejo-agboola7673
@philipoladejo-agboola7673 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I appreciate the enlightenment. Yahweh blessed you both IJN. Amen
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@hermesishtar6389
@hermesishtar6389 2 жыл бұрын
Oh what a strange minds you have got people. You believe in a God who entered the womb of a lady to be born as an infant and to die on a cross executed like a criminal so that believers can be saved and yet you say that a man who was guided by God n chosen as a messenger is a liar. How poor mi ded and misguided are ye. Again the biographies of Mohammad pbuh are cross examined and verified by contemporaries. The sahaba and family who were in thousands. Yet the guy says that the stories about Muhammad were fabricated by people who lived long after he died. The guy is an idiot. And for. As for Yahweh Yahweh =God=Allah= the Only One True God. So I say yes Praise Yahweh.
@josepholaseni4197
@josepholaseni4197 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great eyes opener. Well done for the works that was well done.
@abdullmohamed3726
@abdullmohamed3726 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@josepholaseni4197
@josepholaseni4197 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdullmohamed3726 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dianebrayden4123
@dianebrayden4123 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad no judgment to you at all? but appears you need extra understanding of terms I will give you one, the others you look up, paridise is not where his father is.
@akambibouraima2344
@akambibouraima2344 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad The bible is from Jehovah God but the Quran come from the Abassides from iran ;the truth will come out in the final days of this actual system of thing and babylonne the great will be nacked
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@kishanveerabrahma281
@kishanveerabrahma281 2 жыл бұрын
Translate in to urdu, so that muslims living in Pakistan, India and near by countries can understand and know the true history of genesis of quran and other religious works of Islam. It is informative conversation.
@daoudahmady6613
@daoudahmady6613 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for beautiful briefing 🙏💕👍
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
The 7400 sayings is less than 2% of 600,000. It’s 1.24% Where did the truth go? You found it 1800 km away. SIN is what it really is. God bless Al Fadi & Dr. Jay with health, knowledge, and safety. Great session.
@daudabdullah4405
@daudabdullah4405 2 жыл бұрын
❌ Al fadi n dr jay are horrible frauds that dont know their own Corrupted Bible ❌ Roman Catholics say bible got 73 books ❌ but Protestants say bible got only 66 books n say the extra books are fabrications n false❌ Clear Proof bible deviated by Devil n punishment for adding n subtracting from scripture is Stone to Death _ in leviticus 26 ❌bible not holy at all _ incest in 10 places ❌trailer 1 in Genesis 19 verse 30 onwards _ 2 daughters discuss how to get father prophet Luth drunk n have sex with father❌ later 2 daughters have sex turn by turn with father prophet Luth n get bastard children_ ❌ here defaming God firstly as if Gid doesnt know how to chose a prophet n degrading a honourable Prophet❌ no eyewitnesses to prophet jesus cruxificion_❌ WHEN JESUS WAS ARRESTED BY ROMAN SOLDIERS N ALL THE DESCIPLES FORSOOK JESUS N FLED_ ❌ SO NO EYEWITNESSES N WHOLESALE COPYING AMONG THEMSELVES THE 4 GOSPELS❌ DOES ALL MEANS ALL IN ENGLISH TO CHRISTIANS
@WalterKluwers
@WalterKluwers 2 жыл бұрын
@@daudabdullah4405 why are the hafs and warsh versions of the Quran? The Bible never claimed to be the literal word of God unlike the Quran
@williamgarayua5878
@williamgarayua5878 2 жыл бұрын
Dear "@@daudabdullah4405" : 💰🐪🤺 Always trying to justify Deceptive Armies of JIHAD camouflaged as religion for a SUPREMACIST Political cause; While The Bible is a collection of Books that spans Centuries, your book is a disaster far away from its S.I.N. is epicenter. 🎯👎 * Lets recognize the Best for our Civilization; Bye bye Armies of JIHAD! ⚖️🌐🕊️ 🆚 📗⚔️📗
@jsb1905
@jsb1905 2 жыл бұрын
@@daudabdullah4405 You know you are doubting this fake religion. It is good my friend, turn from the falsehood and come to Christ and HE WILL give you eternal life and save you from hell. He loves you.
@daudabdullah4405
@daudabdullah4405 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsb1905 ❌ Christianity is a illogical n foolish man made religion
@user-ed3qq4im2g
@user-ed3qq4im2g 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and exciting to hear from you both and at times like this we need more exposition about this strange religion. God bless you!🙏
@Ancient-theology
@Ancient-theology 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe just go and get educated
@hermesishtar6389
@hermesishtar6389 2 жыл бұрын
It's not strange religion it's just you are very religion knowledge poor Go educate yourself bud. Read and be fascinated. Indulge yourself.
@user-ed3qq4im2g
@user-ed3qq4im2g 2 жыл бұрын
@@hermesishtar6389 Islam is a strange religion and Muhammad too.! Muhammad did not receive or hear the direct voice of God. It was an angel instead. When Muhammad heard from God (supposedly through an angel), he cowered, was uncertain, and wanted to commit suicide. (Quran 74:1-5) Muhammad said women were 1/2 as smart as men (Hadith 3:826; 2:541), that the majority in hell will be women (Had. 1:28,301; 2:161; 7:124), and that women could be mortgaged. Muhammad was not virgin born. He was born after his father died 4 years later. How that happened? Four years inside her mothers womb? Very strange indeed. Muhammad owned slaves. Muhammad was a sinner. (Quran 40:55; 48:1-2). Muhammad saved his own life many times and had others killed. Muhammad did not fulfill any biblical prophecy except the ones about false teachers (Matt. 24:24). Muhammad's only alleged miracle was the Quran. Which is full of contradictions and satanic verses. Muhammad allegedly received it from an angel (Gabriel). Muhammad received his words in the darkness of a cave. Muhammad had over 13 wives plus sex slaves and even married a six-year-old girl. Mua’wiyya’ said: “I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue or the lips of al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented in hell fire.” Musnad ahmad 16245 Mohammed flirted with Zainab, the wife of his adopted son Zayd. Mohammed rape safiyyah right after killing her newly married husband, father and brother. Many people died in Muhammad's presence--he killed them. Muhammad had the power to take it, but he never restored it. Like a corrupt political leader Muhammad used his position to take advantage of others. Muhammad died by poison and stayed dead. There is no comparison between Jesus and Muhammad. Muhammad falls so far short that he cannot be held on any level remotely close to Jesus. Muhammad is clearly not a prophet of God. Your religion is nothing but sex, women/slaves, politics, money. You better read Matthew Chapter 5 to 7, our Lord Jesus Christ’s Greatest sermon ever told, “The Beatitudes” and you will be fascinated and fall in love with Him. Try to read and be blessed! He’s calling you to come home like the “prodigal son.” ✌️
@V3RTiGo7
@V3RTiGo7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ancient-theology This is what your kind good at. Condemning others. Is that what Islam taught you?
@V3RTiGo7
@V3RTiGo7 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ed3qq4im2g exactly ny point that when I read the Qur'an it's full of crap against Christianity. Namely "antichrist".
@jeffrygil4720
@jeffrygil4720 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative !
@gideonsedrome6948
@gideonsedrome6948 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this material is for everyone to understand our history of Muslims ang Christians alike a very enteresting topic thank you very much.
@aliyubalaahmed9756
@aliyubalaahmed9756 2 жыл бұрын
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@samiaziz5
@samiaziz5 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You.. Excellent and compelling comparison ..
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 2 жыл бұрын
Great Series! God Bless you Both!
@genjor6630
@genjor6630 2 жыл бұрын
If there is an opportunity. I don't mind to buy your book. God bless br JS and br Al. F.
@abdulmanapahmad8527
@abdulmanapahmad8527 2 жыл бұрын
Are you a Stand Up Comedien?
@henktmmr
@henktmmr 2 жыл бұрын
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@henktmmr
@henktmmr 2 жыл бұрын
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@hamedatlas9372
@hamedatlas9372 2 жыл бұрын
The dress code makes you look legit haha.
@jesuschristislord1845
@jesuschristislord1845 2 жыл бұрын
😍😁😍 yes although it sort of confused me in the begining.I wad like wats going on here!!!.Nonetheless listening to them was good
@lalandeful
@lalandeful 2 жыл бұрын
I just love to hear from both of you guys on what seems very sensitive subjects. Getting the Muslim religion on the right track is a real revelation to me. Keep your good work!
@jannmutube
@jannmutube 2 жыл бұрын
----- > There is no right track for a religion that denies the Father, Son, and Spirit. There's a reason Jesus Christ is called "the solid Rock". ... Matthew 24: 35, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away"
@mopikolaila5044
@mopikolaila5044 2 жыл бұрын
@@jannmutube Hmmm... correct your understanding first of who Lucifer really is.! pls understand the nature of beings.!.
@jannmutube
@jannmutube 2 жыл бұрын
@@mopikolaila5044 --- > You don't know what you're talking about. Isaiah28: 14-16,... 15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: 16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste." ... Matther 21: "42, "Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?" 1 Corinthians 1-4, " Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."
@janetcrumley1217
@janetcrumley1217 2 жыл бұрын
Let me start by saying that I am a devout Christian. I have studied the histories of many cultures and know that much of culture and tradition was handed down orally from one generation to the next. There is no mention here of that possibility between Muhammad’s death and the first of his biographies 200-300 after 622. Has this been considered as a possible reason for the time lapse?
@lanet3947
@lanet3947 2 жыл бұрын
Very good arguments of a great thinker!.
@muthannaalbahlani3335
@muthannaalbahlani3335 2 жыл бұрын
ARE U ALIVE?
@JohnR.T.B.
@JohnR.T.B. 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to say that the Gospel of Luke was actually written and finished by St. Luke before the Acts of the Apostles because St. Luke writes it in the opening of Acts that the Gospel (of Luke) was his first book. St. Luke was the student and companion of St. Paul, therefore the apostolic authority of Luke's Gospel came from St. Paul, and both of them were in Rome when St. Luke finished the two books before the great persecution in Rome by Nero in 64 AD. St. Mark wrote his Gospel account based primarily on the testimony of St. Peter in Rome, so the apostolic authority of the Gospel of Mark is St. Peter, with Mark's Gospel finished around the year 60 AD.
@teepe5240
@teepe5240 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad Jesus was pointing out that He is God by saying this to the rich young ruler. He was pointing out only God is good therefore if the rich young ruler called Jesus good who must Jesus be? God.
@jimmycalasangjr9220
@jimmycalasangjr9220 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds hierarchal, is that what Faith Jesus teaches/demonstrated to His diaciples?
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 2 жыл бұрын
There is no historical evidence to support the Islamic narrative on origin's of Islam, Quran or Mohammed. All evidence points to start of Islam during reign of Abdl Malik (685-705AD) of Umayyad caliphate. Even he started it as a Unitarian Christian sect .. Islam began as an heretical Unitarian Christian sect created by the Umayyad Arab empire in contradistinction to the Byzantine trinitarian/orthodox Christianity. It was also used in formation of a separate Arab identity independent of Byzantine and Sassanid empires. Abdl Malik's governor, Mohammed al-Hajjaj, was mainly responsible for putting together the early rudimentary Quran from the pre-existing Arabic/Aramaic/Syriac literature of late 7th century Arabia. Abdl Malik's main goal was create a separate Arab identity.
@ligarsystm
@ligarsystm 2 жыл бұрын
And it looks like he got what he wanted, at the cost of the truth.
@raccqa
@raccqa 2 жыл бұрын
Would you put your sources too?
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 2 жыл бұрын
@@raccqa 'the untold story' by Tom Holland. 'Did Mohamed exist?' by Robert Spencer
@ligarsystm
@ligarsystm 2 жыл бұрын
@@raccqa Already been done. The Muslims from the 1500-1800s made several accusations (endless really) this caused the Christians to do a bunch of digging, a lot of digging. After Christians wend endlessly after the truth, we where left with some really amazing tools, that are being turned on Islam. Guess what? Those tools work as long as one is not a hypocrite. Christians have found ZERO possibility that Islam is true in ANY context. (1) textual criticism (2) philological criticism (3) literary criticism (4) tradition criticism (5) form criticism (6) historical criticism (7) redactive criticism There is a reason Christians are asking questions Muslims can't or won't answer. The question then turns to "If you where wrong would you want to know?"
@raccqa
@raccqa 2 жыл бұрын
@@roshlew6994 I plan to buy Spencer's book. This other author is new to me. I hoped for online links
@prashdxb100
@prashdxb100 2 жыл бұрын
really informative
@randywhite4142
@randywhite4142 2 жыл бұрын
Informative
@maciejpieczula631
@maciejpieczula631 2 жыл бұрын
We all need to start dressing like Al-Fadi.
@adrianbelko7683
@adrianbelko7683 2 жыл бұрын
@@zainabrugi5795 ila ilaha illa Ra Allah All hail the Sun God
@rodels.3745
@rodels.3745 2 жыл бұрын
ha haha youre funny
@kristJ25
@kristJ25 2 жыл бұрын
I like history so this is interesting and well presented 👍👍👍
@hulkai3436
@hulkai3436 2 жыл бұрын
wow, interesting scholarly presentation.
@dqschannel
@dqschannel 2 жыл бұрын
Brother Al Fadi and Jay Smith are these presentation available for download?
@carollynne5943
@carollynne5943 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad Check john14:9, whoever has seen me has seen the father ( jesus speaking to phillip).........and many more cant fit here.
@carollynne5943
@carollynne5943 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad You read what is convenient for ur urguement...lm telling u there are tons of scripture showing Jesus is God,one more👇 But again just look at Triumph of Israel over neighbours. Philipians2:5-9 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature[a] God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature[b] of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross! 9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And every tongue should confess that Jesus christ is Lord, to the glory of God the father.
@carollynne5943
@carollynne5943 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad For now Gods kingdom is in the hands of Jesus Christ, except God himself....Jesus will hand over at some point. 1Corinthians 15:24-28 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
@dalelangley9666
@dalelangley9666 2 жыл бұрын
The archaeologists tell us that Babylon started as an Amorite trade center . And the Bible tells us that the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet finished .
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad LAUGHABLE :D
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 2 жыл бұрын
​@Mansoor Ahmad When will muslims learn the basics is my question? OK listen: (same as Luke 18:18-19) We read: Mar 10:17 Now as He was going out into the road, one came running up, and having knelt before Him, he asked Him, "Good Teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?" Mar 10:18 So Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One, God. ----Why He said that, only a real Christian can know. No one seeing His works, hearing His words and the words of others about Him can say that Jesus was not good, since everyone knows that He was indeed the best human ever! He even told the Jews: Mark 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works." -So what He said and done were indeed good, because they were all guided by the Father in Him. That is how good He was! So again, why did He say that? Two reasons, both are possible, one is the true one. A] A man comes up to Him. HE SEES HIM AS A MERE GOOD HUMAN and he tells Him He is a good teacher. So He answers him *as a mere human* in order to teach him right there that indeed NO MERE HUMAN is good in the absolute divine sense of God's criteria and that she shouldn't claim that about anyone! And at the same time to teach us that we should not consider ourselves good, but just on the road to goodness. So in humility He took the focus from Himself, to promote the real goodness of God His Father. B] Jesus Christ asks him why he calls Him good when only God is Good. If you know how Jesus many times replied, you would know that He used people's words to take them to more important issues. This is one of His methods! So, again here, Jesus does the same. He doesn't take both of the words the man used "good teacher", but only the word "good". Now the man did not know He was God in the flesh! But He Himself knew who He was! HE WAS GOD!!! It's like He was using a word-play: "Why do you call me good? Have you realized I am God? Because only God is good!" I know a muslim can't agree with this second understanding, only because he has not studied how Jesus many times answered or replied to people. Now, if you think rationally, you will understand that you implying that Jesus was not good, even though your own koran says He was(!), makes you look from silly to purposely evil. Let's go to John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. ---Yes, as a human He had a heavenly Father and a God. What is the problem? Listen: This cannot be understood by people that have not yet got even a light grasp of the "mystery" of the incarnation of the Son in a human body. I will explain. In the Greek NT (I am Greek), in the book of Philippians, we read (ESV) Php 2:5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, Php 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, Php 2:7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. Php 2:8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. ---Jesus poured out ALL HIS GLORY, to become a human, but kept only His SELF AWARENESS, His "ego", His "I”, that is internal identity of who “I” am. Jesus received all His glory again after He resurrected: Joh 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. Joh 17:4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. Joh 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED. (See also e.g. Matt.25:31, Luk 25:26-27) Now his "glory" are all the attributes that were within Him when He was in the form of God, and that were expressed, made manifest. (This btw is the definition of glory discerned in 1Co 11.) Those attributes, like being omnipresent, and omniscient, were literally "emptied out of Himself" (in Greek: εαυτόν εκκενωσεν) and this so that He would come and live among us as 100% human! In this theological context, He would usually not speak of and by Himself, since He did not have the omniscience He had before He was born on earth, but was given what to say and when to say it, by the Omniscient Father (through the Holy Spirit). Muslims, atheists and even Christians cannot comprehend the MAGNIFICENCE of the mystery of the incarnation of the Son of God if they do not understand Philp.2:5-8. ---If you attempt to simply understand this, you will understand every passage in the Gospels that muslims don't.
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 2 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad I meant WHAT I CLEARLY SAID. I don't know what you mean. Jesus was not 100% God here on earth(since He emptied himself out just before He wad born here), but before and after earth. Try to at least understand. Jesus did not just say My Father, He said alot of other stuff that clearly teach He was His only Son in nature The Father's divine nature.
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 2 жыл бұрын
I added, refresh page.
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 2 жыл бұрын
I added, refresh page.
@melodybaring6342
@melodybaring6342 Жыл бұрын
Very educational. God bless!
@juerbert1
@juerbert1 2 жыл бұрын
Powerfull !!
@edwinrodrigues1891
@edwinrodrigues1891 2 жыл бұрын
Bro Fadi I am thankful to God Almighty for touching people like you,Christian Prince,David wood and so many others. We pray for all of you and to the world at large. In the name of the father, son and of the holy spirit amen.
@shahiddar6526
@shahiddar6526 2 жыл бұрын
@@MsDarta See also other side of story. FARID RESPONDS has made many videos in response to your favourite youtubers. May God guide us to straight path.
@MsDarta
@MsDarta 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks comment sir
@manujaiportblair4664
@manujaiportblair4664 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Al Fadi and Dr. Jay, your video was a real eye opener. This has answered many questions I had about Islam. I would request you to kindly research, work on please bring out the facts about Islam and the time line when it landed in India. It is generally believed that a Cheramon King (Kerala) Perumal Kulashekhara was influenced by Islam. He went to Mecca-Medina with some traders and met prophet Muhammed (SAAS) in 600 AD. In His presence the King got converted into Islam. From SA the King ordered through his writings and the first Mosque Cheramon Juma Masjid was built at Kodungallur, Kerala in 629 AD. However, the King never returned to Kerala. On his way he passed away and his body was buried in one of the Saudi Arabia cities. Reading between the lines of this narrative and after watching your video, I think the people of Kerala must open their eyes and have the right to know the facts. Thank you. Do keep up the good job going. God Bless. - Jai
@nazahraul7955
@nazahraul7955 2 жыл бұрын
please what the names of the presenters?
@FeliceChiapperini
@FeliceChiapperini 2 жыл бұрын
Similarly in Christianity, the first Council of Nicea was held nearly 300 years after the death of Jesus. Core beliefs like the divine nature of Christ and the doctrine of the Trinity were debated and expounded by those who never knew Jesus or his Disciples. Just like with the Qur'an, the Gospels were collected (several were discarded) and codified. Thank you for pointing out all similarities.
@jimmycalasangjr9220
@jimmycalasangjr9220 2 жыл бұрын
And The creed, neutralizes it..
@Ali_o.O
@Ali_o.O 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching your testimony video, It encourages me to fully give my time to the Lord. That education and money isn't everything. I'm a former Muslim from Bahrain Now a follower of Christ.
@shroomijumushluv7862
@shroomijumushluv7862 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you Ali, in Jesus name... the Lord placed wisdom in your head and your heart led you home ..
@hussainjaafar5166
@hussainjaafar5166 2 жыл бұрын
سبرايز ، انا بحريني انت من وين ؟ لا تنخدع بهؤلاء النصارى.
@Ali_o.O
@Ali_o.O 2 жыл бұрын
@mysotiras13 Amen, indeed the Lord works in many ways his church is growing in the Middle East especially in Iran and Saudi arabia people are turning to Jesus Christ. Not everyone turns to Christ after leaving islam. They usually still pretend to be Muslim in front of friends and family to save themselves from embarrassment and shame, It's only a matter of time.
@shroomijumushluv7862
@shroomijumushluv7862 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ali_o.O what made you realise, That Jesus was God and king? Just out of interest...
@Ali_o.O
@Ali_o.O 2 жыл бұрын
@@shroomijumushluv7862 I realize that when i read the message of the Gospel to know what God has done for you. If we as humans have love towards our family how much more is God love is ? Jesus Christ is that example John 3:16 - For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life Through Jesus i came to know the fullness of the law, he spoke heavenly things much more than commands and religious rituals. Old Testament was a foreshadowing of his coming, that we must live according to the spirit and not the desires of the flesh. Religion can't teach you these things.
@cptakarachi6270
@cptakarachi6270 2 жыл бұрын
I love when you guys mock islam. In the name of facts. But the truth is you guys are exposing yourself and your faith. Thank you for helping us to increase our more faith in islam. Love you alfadi and jay😁💖
@mazinwonderland3077
@mazinwonderland3077 2 жыл бұрын
They are not mocking Islam, they are just telling the truth. You are afraid to see the truth. Jesus loves you.
@cptakarachi6270
@cptakarachi6270 2 жыл бұрын
@@mazinwonderland3077 do u think its a way of showing truth? Did jesus use this method? Metthew 5 44 jesus said love your enemies. Even christians didnt meet prophet muhammad hwo can they dare to consider him.as enemy and mocking oir prophet. Point to be noted are they following jesus or a drunkard commandment??
@busybeenature9092
@busybeenature9092 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Thanks
@johnafolabi6500
@johnafolabi6500 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr Jay, isn't the book of Luke written before the book of Acts, according to Acts 1:1 "I wrote the former account, Theophilus, about all that Jesus began to do and teach"? Pls check this and revert.
@pfanderfilms
@pfanderfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you and I know that, but, as I said in the video, I'm using the most liberal dates suggested for the authorship of each book, in order to make the point that even with the most liberal dates, our New Testament is still much much closer to the events they speak about than those of Islam's.
@themeaningoflife1215
@themeaningoflife1215 2 жыл бұрын
@@pfanderfilms ur online?!
@ziyaadrampete8937
@ziyaadrampete8937 2 жыл бұрын
And an islamic scholar needed to be called into this discussion. This is wrong information being shared.
@hamidmalka6311
@hamidmalka6311 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah ,they were dresses muslim close for drama!!! What is this all about ,its a different chapter of Holy wood
@yusufolaniyi6082
@yusufolaniyi6082 2 жыл бұрын
These men with all their PHD...they could not see all the errors and contradictions fill up in the Bible... Several various Bibles...SMH... They will always try But they can't beat it...
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 2 жыл бұрын
Whats going on? I get tons of Islamic charity and dawah ads on this video.. LOL.. So, indirectly, Muslim money is funding this channel 😂🤣 Is it reverse Jizya?? 😎
@juerbert1
@juerbert1 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin allows the Islamists to advertise without shame ! If they pay 💰💸🐪 for advertising, theirs is the free interruption of the Christian program !!
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 2 жыл бұрын
@@juerbert1 It's alright. I guess the Muslim advertisers use the google/KZbin algorithms to advertise on videos related to Islam, irrespective of whether that channel is pro or anti Islam. I hope Al Fadi & CIRA get some of that ad money from the Islamic apologists...
@AuraCraft
@AuraCraft 2 жыл бұрын
Im gonna play this at 80% speed :p how many coffee has this guy had!? :p
@JesusGarcia-Digem
@JesusGarcia-Digem 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content amigos!
@potkinazarmehr
@potkinazarmehr 2 жыл бұрын
Why did the Umayids in Spain not write a different narrative to the Abbassids?
@rickyreward226
@rickyreward226 2 жыл бұрын
What are the dates of those UmYids in spain? Them we can know whether they photocopied what was written by the other group
@felsimoregumtang6085
@felsimoregumtang6085 2 жыл бұрын
I challenge Jay Smith and Al Fahdi to provide the world the documents written by Prophet Jesus(pbuh) or his 12 apostles written in Aramaic.
@_truthful_q_
@_truthful_q_ 2 жыл бұрын
@Felsimore Gumtang, which version would you like? There are so many to choose from, also most have little (well big) differences, so, well as it’s manipulated by the hand of man, should be able to find one you can agree with 😄 They have free will, let them choose misguidance, it will only misguide those whose hearts dislike truth.
@qw2ps4
@qw2ps4 2 жыл бұрын
One of the various names of their god is """the great deciever"""". Who would follow a god who tells you he will decieve anyone? In the bible, Satan is described as the """"deciever""""......wake up people who follow ""the deciever""!
@beelzlebulb9514
@beelzlebulb9514 2 жыл бұрын
Me true prince of the earth too in the bible. But the devil is in the details ain't it? hahhahahhahahhah you "Deciever"!!!! Hahahah I think you need some more english classes to be a better "Deciever"!!! hahhahahhahha
@atikulhaider5057
@atikulhaider5057 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dr. Jay seems an historical analyst, but to me, he lacks proper knowledge, he lacks proper analysis power and mentality, he lacks psychology of history. I'm not throwing out his study but, I strongly disagree with his studies. His study will only create brain washed viewers who have watched his discussions. Honestly, his study is nothing, there's more, a lot to add. He did not lived +-1500 years or he doesn't know even how was his grand-grand-grand-father and how he'd look like but, certainly his grand-grand-grand-father existed. I wish I would have a debate with him.
@Fallen_Angel17
@Fallen_Angel17 2 жыл бұрын
I will follow the Deceiver!!!
@beelzlebulb9514
@beelzlebulb9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fallen_Angel17 Yes Mecca is in the USA!!!! Do you believe me?
@dwaynejohnson9879
@dwaynejohnson9879 2 жыл бұрын
@@beelzlebulb9514 where is it exactly?
@rudolfdiezel1614
@rudolfdiezel1614 2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis.
@mikesamuel9175
@mikesamuel9175 2 жыл бұрын
Brother Al Fadhi is just AMAZING!! Soldier on my Christian brother; we'll see you in Heaven and the New World to come. HalleluYAH....! PRAISE YE YAHWEH...
@josepholaseni4197
@josepholaseni4197 2 жыл бұрын
I watched it over again and again, this work is amazing, it is a great exposition. Lies can not succeed forever, the same way the truth can not be successfully buried by lies forever, because the mystery of life has a way of exposing it as it is happening now. This great team is doing great work. I am always enjoying your work. Great grace to you in Jesus' name.
@farookdinaully8029
@farookdinaully8029 2 жыл бұрын
Joseph olaseni These liars are not interested in the truth they are telling you what your itching ears want to hear. Makkah (Baca) where prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h. received his divine revelations is mentioned in Psalms 84;6 which says "AS THEY PASS THROUGH THE VALLEY OF BACA THEY MAKE IT A SPRING THE RAIN ALSO COVERS IT WITH POOLS."
@josepholaseni4197
@josepholaseni4197 2 жыл бұрын
@@farookdinaully8029 Wow, that is amazing. From the same corrupt Bible ( according to your claims) you are have drawn and still searching for your validation. Who is now deceiving who? Pride, prejudice, and ignorance is destroying you all.
@farookdinaully8029
@farookdinaully8029 2 жыл бұрын
@@josepholaseni4197 You should not incline more towards one schorlarly opinion rather than another just because it is in accordance with your whims and desires. If you are fixated on an idea find evidence for it and lets hear about it. It is easy to call anyone ignorant but to say why and prove it not so easy.
@josepholaseni4197
@josepholaseni4197 2 жыл бұрын
Present proof to debunk the facts that have been revealed. The truth presented is self-convince. You can not do anything against the truth but for the truth.
@SAMUEL532150
@SAMUEL532150 2 жыл бұрын
Even late Cristopher Hitchens, most famous modern day atheist, did not questioned mohammed's existance but he did so for jesus!
@sottinadesina7933
@sottinadesina7933 2 жыл бұрын
These are obvious scientific and historical evidences and you are talking about an atheist Can you disprove all these obvious evidences unless you have been brainwashed by this falsehood Please open up your mind and the truth will set you free
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 10 ай бұрын
How I earnestly wish that there is now an ORIGINAL ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age. From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it? I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -06-22-23
@josepholaseni4197
@josepholaseni4197 2 жыл бұрын
God bless Al Fadi and Dr. Jay Smith in Jesu name.
@abdulhamid2784
@abdulhamid2784 2 жыл бұрын
Hellooo bro you cannot blow the light of Islam with your dirty filthy mouth .
@josepholaseni4197
@josepholaseni4197 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdulhamid2784 You are spilling your rotten contents as usual.
@ahmadmuzakkir6792
@ahmadmuzakkir6792 2 жыл бұрын
god bless?? hahah more like god curse....both will pay for their lies...
@josepholaseni4197
@josepholaseni4197 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdulhamid2784 You talked about curses because you do not know what blessing is all about.
@abdulrashid4081
@abdulrashid4081 2 жыл бұрын
i strongly suggest Dr. Jay Smith Debate with Dr. Zakir Naik on this topic since both of them are still alive today
@samuelarokiaraj5466
@samuelarokiaraj5466 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained with historical details. Know the truth and the truth will set you free.
@christopherj.l.watson3560
@christopherj.l.watson3560 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome work Al Fadi
@hananalbataineh6175
@hananalbataineh6175 2 жыл бұрын
Who is this person and what his academia status?
@antonkarto4356
@antonkarto4356 2 жыл бұрын
why did it take them a long time to make a religion because it took a long time to choose verses that were suitable and according to their needs which they took from Christian sources, Judaism, Buddhism, Hindu and others.
@amelialim2498
@amelialim2498 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@shakibboy4611
@shakibboy4611 2 жыл бұрын
use your brains rightly u seem upside down.
@danieljosephdelta44semperfi
@danieljosephdelta44semperfi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you dear brothers. While I am already convinced of everything you say this is exciting to hear as I cry out to God on a regular basis for the souls of the Muslim peoples even asking God to bring Afghan refugees to the small town of Pahrump that they might hear the good news from my lips and be saved oh God in the name of Jesus. So this will be helpful when the time comes for some Godly persuasion to be able to refer them to these videos thank you dear brothers and God keep you and God bless you so much oh God in the name of Jesus
@lucilayvonnepadilla6727
@lucilayvonnepadilla6727 2 жыл бұрын
Insh'allah Ameen!!
@Bei-Abedan
@Bei-Abedan 2 жыл бұрын
I found from 20:00 to 23:50 really interesting. Thank you. Don't forget that Mark was the son of Simon Peter.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 2 жыл бұрын
evidence for this?
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 2 жыл бұрын
@@fantasia55 there is this thing called the Internet, a system of tubes
@tajmulmd5436
@tajmulmd5436 2 жыл бұрын
Sir what about Sahaba,s who lived with the prophet? Are they also fabricated?
@albm706
@albm706 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Smith, the non existent Mohamed received the command to pray in 621 (Mikraj). In 622 he migrated to Medina. He died in 632. So he must have performed Friday sermons in congregation for abt 11 yrs (621-632). That is abt 572 Friday sermons. Hundreds of thousands must hv heard his Friday sermons. Yet there is no record of a single Friday sermon in the hadith. Except for the 1st Friday sermon, but there are 2 different versions of it. 572 Friday sermons, supposedly heard by hundreds of thousands, are missing from the Seera, hadith etc. It was all fake, non existent.
@ophelian4646
@ophelian4646 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting point..
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT POINT
@farookdinaully8029
@farookdinaully8029 2 жыл бұрын
AI BM I read your comment based on complete ignorance this is what happens when you listen and believe in liars who is telling you whatever your itching ears want to hear. You need to read about the beginning of the journey of Islam from how idolatry started till how Islam was brought then you will know who Muhammad p.b.u.h. truly is and he is not a false prophet.Thanks to Islam paganism in all its various forms is defeated. Islam reject the dying and rising of God, Islam doesn't copy a satanic human sacrifice salvation and Islam doesn't unfairly and unjustly punish others on their behalf.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 2 жыл бұрын
@@farookdinaully8029 Islam is pagan, worship of the Moon God.
@farookdinaully8029
@farookdinaully8029 2 жыл бұрын
@@fantasia55 Typical stupid and ignorant I do not have time for. Keep living in your world of denial if it keeps you happy.
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