The Qur'an uses the Wrong Arabic! Surprised? (#4)

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@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 3 жыл бұрын
This series is magnificent! Well done Al and Jay!
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. There was lots of half-truths in it.
@k3D4rsi554maq
@k3D4rsi554maq 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. I'm learning so much about Islam from this channel.
@realmikemartins
@realmikemartins 3 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS YOU GUYS 👦🙏❤
@Speakers154
@Speakers154 3 жыл бұрын
I must get Mark Durie's book.
@FRED-gx2qk
@FRED-gx2qk 3 жыл бұрын
regards Mel
@leejones2113
@leejones2113 3 жыл бұрын
One thing about jay, he keeps you updated
@DanielApologetics
@DanielApologetics 3 жыл бұрын
SUPER-DUPER surprised!!!
@henktmmr
@henktmmr 3 жыл бұрын
GBU! Truth will prevail!
@industrialgolfer
@industrialgolfer 3 жыл бұрын
Great material
@allahissatanmuhammadwaspos1493
@allahissatanmuhammadwaspos1493 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@allahissatanmuhammadwaspos1493
@allahissatanmuhammadwaspos1493 3 жыл бұрын
@Pooja S "ouch my feelings hurts" 😂
@allahissatanmuhammadwaspos1493
@allahissatanmuhammadwaspos1493 3 жыл бұрын
@Pooja S "Peace be upon me" i'm the most romantic peacefools there is... no to war, and yes to l...o... v....eeee😌 """"aloo hu ubar"""" 🥱🥱
@allahissatanmuhammadwaspos1493
@allahissatanmuhammadwaspos1493 3 жыл бұрын
@Pooja S "Oh my Aisha" is that you 🤩🙈🙈🙈
@xsqrewfacex
@xsqrewfacex 3 жыл бұрын
Not a believer, but this channel certainly fired up the thoughts.great stuff
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 3 жыл бұрын
Here ya go Dr. Jay- quoins.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 3 жыл бұрын
May Yahweh continue to bless you with truth. I pray Jesus Christ will keep Al Fadi and Dr. Jay safe.
@fruitsap8325
@fruitsap8325 3 жыл бұрын
When jesus christ return he is gonna destroy all deceptive lying devils including clown jay and his fadi
@christ6773
@christ6773 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@christ6773
@christ6773 3 жыл бұрын
@Pooja SYahweh is name of God in old testament 🥰you really don't know ? Are you a Christian ?
@christ6773
@christ6773 3 жыл бұрын
Oh so you are a atheist right? I'm also From India Punjab
@christ6773
@christ6773 3 жыл бұрын
@Pooja S sounds good I did same thing what are going on these days but I find Jesus is only way truth and life 🥰 keep your own research don't believe on others
@hk-hasan-khan2764
@hk-hasan-khan2764 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Bangladesh. Thank you sir One day we will get real Islam. I am in depression for some reason. In my country lots of people they are making terrorist. I know them but I can't do something. If I try to say something maybe they will kill me.
@LightofJehan
@LightofJehan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m there with u I asked for the truth beyond a reasonable doubt. Islam say proof must be shown. Well 🤷‍♀️
@LightofJehan
@LightofJehan 3 жыл бұрын
Just stay quiet 🤫
@LightofJehan
@LightofJehan 3 жыл бұрын
But she then there’s people seeing Mohammed went on the night journey and so all these things and so in the future that women will be dress naked but not make it stretch pants stick to your skin that things will be reversed that men would be women and women will be man and the children would be running the parents and that’s really happening so I’m confused
@shahrahman4368
@shahrahman4368 Жыл бұрын
Hasan - It seems that your brain has been washed. Think before you say such words.
@shahrahman4368
@shahrahman4368 Жыл бұрын
@@LightofJehan - Senseless talking.
@boriss.861
@boriss.861 3 жыл бұрын
When is the discussion with the top Islamic Scholars going to happen? Probably when the Earth freezes over.
@talisupremacy7176
@talisupremacy7176 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@goinghome1191
@goinghome1191 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried to have meaningful dialogue with a cultist? It is impossible... I have had plenty of conversations with Muslim's and it always reminds me of talking to a JW cult member, it's insanity. They change the subject, divert, manipulate, whatever else, but they NEVER EVER answer a question.
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631 3 жыл бұрын
They are both a joke
@ssv7195
@ssv7195 3 жыл бұрын
@@goinghome1191 and even when you answer they keep on asking the same thing, because they are not understanding. And they think that you cannot answer and that they crushed you 😆
@exhaleinhale1118
@exhaleinhale1118 2 жыл бұрын
This is beautifully true to a large extent. I’ll love a link to the other series. Well, this and more of your questions could be answered by just one Chanel on this platform “ Marvelous Quran on KZbin.” The Arabic used in the Quran was detailed in the Quran itself, it’s an Abrahamic Dialect and the reason, importance and essence you shall find when you watch several videos on that amazing Marvelous Quran. Thanks.
@muhammadfitri1500
@muhammadfitri1500 3 жыл бұрын
I just laugh whatever come from this channel
@davidchase1439
@davidchase1439 3 жыл бұрын
makes perfect sense as earliest Koran seems to have originated from Aramiac that morphed later into Arabic
@davidchase1439
@davidchase1439 3 жыл бұрын
@tg deen that was sign of old Covenant in the New one it's water baptism
@boomslang2681
@boomslang2681 3 жыл бұрын
@tg deen okay if you follow Jesus say Allah the father.
@davidchase1439
@davidchase1439 3 жыл бұрын
@tg deen Do you walk around touch and kiss black stone?
@davidchase1439
@davidchase1439 3 жыл бұрын
@@boomslang2681 nope will say Abba Father Yahweh
@asdsad7476
@asdsad7476 3 жыл бұрын
(Abdul)Lah +(A)mina=Mah(A) Lah=sun Mina= fish goddess, wife, house=earth Mah=moon So the name of muhammad as MahAmad is probably not originally arabic, we don't have any such name in preislamic era, thus this name mahamad could be mythologic as it is seen sirat rasul by ibni ishaq. In which Amina sees a light shining from Sham of Syria.
@HarunaBabajiUmar
@HarunaBabajiUmar 3 жыл бұрын
Ignorance is really a disease.
@albusai
@albusai 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarunaBabajiUmar yes islam is
@HarunaBabajiUmar
@HarunaBabajiUmar 3 жыл бұрын
@@albusai who is more ignorant than the one believes that God almighty the creator of the heaven and the earth can enter the womb of a woman and passed through her vagina where urine and menstrual blood passes gets born and then dragged in the streets heckled and killed by humans. Imagine God been killed by humans that is the most absurd thing that someone can believe.
@savantianprince
@savantianprince 3 жыл бұрын
All organized religions are full of ignorant people.
@firstman6907
@firstman6907 2 жыл бұрын
allah is simply the arabic word for god . abdullah or abdalllah means slave or servant of god .
@IndusCreed74
@IndusCreed74 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, I like the Star Wars type introductory text.... In Arabia... far far away....
@gentz8310
@gentz8310 3 жыл бұрын
The Sanaa (Yemen) manuscript is also written in the northern Arabic style, that means all the Quranic manuscripts came from north.
@ItsJustAdrean
@ItsJustAdrean 3 жыл бұрын
Yet another MASSIVE weight of evidence proving Petran origins
@yisrael8658
@yisrael8658 3 жыл бұрын
I like your Arabic style 😂😀😁🤘 Can you Dare to wake the streets like that with your Arabic style 😂😀😁🤘
@lahleholivia7398
@lahleholivia7398 3 жыл бұрын
It would have made more sense for Allah too use a language spoken by more people. Human error.
@umor5280
@umor5280 3 жыл бұрын
Two students of Liar School. One is Champion and other one is Runner-up in their competition!!
@mhorram
@mhorram 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Something new has been added! Not only does Islam not have the 'book and the man' it doesn't even have 'The Arabic'. This is more deadly to Islam than a hole in the narrative, Yasir Qadhi. Now, there's a hole in the transmission mechanism itself. That is absolutely devastating. I think by the time that Al Fadi, Jay Smith, Dan Brubaker, Mel, Joe, etc. are finished you are gonna have to change your name to Nosir Notmhe because not even you will believe in this religion anymore. Come on home Nosir Notmhe!
@psthamilvanan
@psthamilvanan 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you Both.
@shahmatsimplex4144
@shahmatsimplex4144 3 жыл бұрын
I knew something was wrong in 1980 when I studied koran Arabic. An egyptian newspaper seller in austria laughed when I tried to speak it, and commented that it was like Shakespeare Arabic and not how anyone spoke. So how could an illiterate in the middle of the desert come up with such a language
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 2 жыл бұрын
Then tell me How the Seabans edited the Quran when the Seaban Kingdom predates the script (Hijaz, Kufic, etc.) the Qur'an was written in and the native language of the Seabans is unrelated to Arabic?
@PeterHarremoes
@PeterHarremoes 3 жыл бұрын
Does quranic Arabic coincide with the Arabic found on coins struck during the period of the Umayyad Caliphat? Usually the Arabic on the coins is called Kufic, which suggest an origin around Kufa, but does "Kufic" only refer to the characters or does it also refer to the language?
@stavrospartheniou8563
@stavrospartheniou8563 3 жыл бұрын
I'm now reading Nikephoros - bishop/Patriarch of Constantinople. It's funny cause being a priest he always mentions the various haereseis in Byzantion (like monotheletism) and a brief unfavorable history of them, but when it comes to the Saracen incursion during Heracleius' reign I see no mention of a new religion or its founder. He does however say that they came from "Aethrivon" of Eudaemon Arabia (Yemen). He lived in the 8th century by the way (born in 758). Look, all this is new to me and I do not have an educated opinion on it yet. And, I have to admit, it's hard for me to rood out everything I've read on the history of the region just like that. I need more data. Interesting though.
@thesarasohrabi
@thesarasohrabi 3 жыл бұрын
Muslims: Jay you don't even know the language you are trying to expose here..... Jay: Hold my Al Fadi
@mandalorianmoggie7108
@mandalorianmoggie7108 3 жыл бұрын
Unleash Al Fadi.
@zoeashes6347
@zoeashes6347 3 жыл бұрын
Trying hard again to play the Arabic card ? It is so silly in the 21st century to continue to use this ruse again and again. It no longer works .... And Al Fadi, being a Saudi certainly knows Arabic. And many of the research scholars which Jay quotes certainly know Arabic very well ... So stop deflecting and going off topic. Just present good evidence that the Quran actually exists in manuscript form in the 7th century ... not later ...
@CoolaOK
@CoolaOK 3 жыл бұрын
Please use the metric system through your videos.
@yoppindia
@yoppindia 3 жыл бұрын
As per this documentary mecca was initially near Petra, Jordan ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/inraYoKGfZuErK8 )and was moved to Arabian peninsula due to political reasons, so what you are saying makes sense, Quran was written near Jordan and Mohamed was from there.
@mikestallard8236
@mikestallard8236 2 жыл бұрын
In the Desert Fathers, who lived among the Sabateans much earlier than the 7th century. One of their major players was a man called Makarios. This, in Arabic turns into Mohammed.
@savior2899
@savior2899 3 жыл бұрын
Islam= the heresy cult , copypaste, fabrications and fixing the situations according to the book made , but...but....busted 😆 Watched again ❤️
@protipswithowais4285
@protipswithowais4285 3 жыл бұрын
Looks for how Holy Quran was preserved This guy is just picking in the middle
@msyuslan1
@msyuslan1 3 жыл бұрын
Dr jay. Lol.
@markhamze154
@markhamze154 3 жыл бұрын
Mohamed is a title meaning to praise. His name was Abdul Kasir as Abraham means father of many. Abrahams name was Hanif!!!
@Zarghaam12
@Zarghaam12 3 жыл бұрын
A lecture from dilettantes ! I'd rather follow and accept the views of Arthur Arberry, the Sir Thomas Adams's Professor of Arabic at Cambridge University, than this lot.
@abdulrazaqameri7239
@abdulrazaqameri7239 3 жыл бұрын
Our prophet PBUH used to travel to all the areas that they are talking about. So it’s not a surprise that there are words that come from that part.
@blusheep2
@blusheep2 3 жыл бұрын
Its not that Mohammad couldn't know that Arabic. Its that the people he was writing the Quran to would not have known it as they spoke the other Arabic. So even if Mohammad new the northern Arabic, no one would know what he was talking about. This makes it highly unlikely that the original Quran was written in the Arabic you have in your Qurans now which means you don't have an exact copy of the Quran but a translation of it. Otherwise it means that Islam wasn't invented in Mecca or Medina but up North which would prove Islam is a fraud.
@abdulrazaqameri7239
@abdulrazaqameri7239 3 жыл бұрын
@@blusheep2 there was an annual commercial journey between the north and the south long before Islam and thus most of the people were acquainted to the different dialects.
@blusheep2
@blusheep2 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrazaqameri7239 That may be a reasonable critique if it can be shown to be true. Before Mohammad's time there isn't even any mention of Mecca in the historical record which would suggest that even if there was a trade route through the area, it didn't pass through Mecca. It also, nonetheless wouldn't be the mother tongue and vast amounts of the inhabitants of the area wouldn't have known it from a trade route. Only some traders and businessman would likely know it.
@abdulrazaqameri7239
@abdulrazaqameri7239 3 жыл бұрын
@@blusheep2 on the contrary Meka was the center for the that trade rout. And Mohammed PBUH was one of the merchant before the revelation.
@blusheep2
@blusheep2 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrazaqameri7239 I don't mean any offense but I haven't found Muslims to be the most honest group of people I have run into. It seems to me that the whole belief system is wrapped around a narrative that no one questions. Then when someone points our a challenge to that narrative the answer is always, "no thats not a problem. Muslims have known about that for centuries." Yet, Muslims never mention it till they are challenged by it. I don't find that honest at all. The standard Muslim narrative is that Mecca was a major trade route. It seems to make sense because these cities are located close to the coast where I would expect most of the major trade routes to run. Nonetheless, Mecca is missing in the historical record. None of the surrounding nations mention it as early as Mohammad. That is, at a minimum, puzzling. Now that doesn't mean it didn't exist but it challenges the standard Muslim narrative that it was a major point on a major trade route. So, I simply am asking for more information because the information known right now doesn't look good for Mecca and what we are told to believe about it. Now that may be solved at some future point. In the Bible is a town called Nazareth. For the longest time people claimed this city didn't exist and was a fabrication. I have even heard atheists recently try to attack the Bible because of this town. Nazareth was eventually found though. It was hardly a town. It was more of a settlement and very small but it was found. Maybe that will happen with Mecca. Maybe we will finally find an independent source for Mecca in the future but right now it appears Mecca was NOT a major point on a trade route.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 Жыл бұрын
According to Jay Smith the LETTERS OF PAUL are just MERE TAFSEER of the Old Testament and “other scriptures” (?). Tafseer means interpretation. If the letters of Paul are just mere tafseer, why is it they become the main core of the New Testament which comprised almost 90 percent of it. These should be written in a separate book. In the Islamic standard, no single tafseer is included in the Holy Qur’an. Hence, the letters of Paul must be written in a separate book. Jay Smith failed not elaborate as to what specific book or verse/s in the Old Testament that each letter is intended to for being a tafseer. He should have elaborated on the following letters of Paul: LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES: 1). Romans - tafseer of what is it intended for? 2). Hebrews - tafseer of what is it intended for? 3). Corinthians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 4). Galatians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 5). Colossians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 6). Philippians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 7). Ephesians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 8). Thessalonians - tafseer of what is it intended for? LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS: 1). Timothy - tafseer of what is it intended for? 2). Titus - tafseer of what is it intended for? 3). Philemon - tafseer of what is it intended for? 4). James - tafseer of what is it intended for? 5). John - tafseer of what is it intended for? 6). Jude - tafseer of what is it intended for? 7). Peter - tafseer of what is it intended for? -08-03-23
@yvonnegonzales2973
@yvonnegonzales2973 3 жыл бұрын
Muhammad so confused of many insertions & dialects
@sonoffreedom6681
@sonoffreedom6681 3 жыл бұрын
Jay--Please write up your research as a book.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 3 жыл бұрын
Discoveries are coming too fast for that.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 Жыл бұрын
According to Jay Smith is that he believed that there is really ONE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. Since he cannot find it, he assumed that the gospel of John is already that book. But his is only mere assumption. He failed to make any clear evidence to show that his assumption is correct. Hence, he has to show manuscripts in Aramaic as evidence for his assumption that the gospel of John is the already real Gospel of Pophet jESUs (pbuh). By his hasty assumption, he undoubtedly discarded the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke into useless books which have no more meaning to the whole Christendom, and hence not fit to be used as the basis of the religiosity of the Christians. -06-27-23
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
Question: I have been wondering, is the al the definite article in Al Fadi's name?
@daves.8869
@daves.8869 3 жыл бұрын
Fadi is widely used in Lebanon and loosely translates as redeemer, savior, or sacrificer. As it is my understanding that he is an apostate he took the name to protect himself/family.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
@@daves.8869 Thanks for the info. Yes, he did leave Islam and it makes sense to protect those left behind.
@gnarfgnarf4004
@gnarfgnarf4004 3 жыл бұрын
Where's Waldo?
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 Жыл бұрын
How I earnestly wish that there is now an ORIGINAL ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age. From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it? I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -06-26-23
@bobfisher1909
@bobfisher1909 3 жыл бұрын
Can you find Uthman and his Quran?
@keyazabin2308
@keyazabin2308 3 жыл бұрын
No
@LightofJehan
@LightofJehan 3 жыл бұрын
And is then when debating about stuff like this you’re supposed to provide proof that you can see with your own eyes. I’m sitting with my own eyes I’m not too happy I’m happy I’m staying with my own eyes but this is why I don’t trust human beings I asked for this to find the truth because I just had a feeling there was something more out there and I asked for the truth beyond a reasonable doubt be shown 2 where It’s proven 🤷‍♀️😢
@yvonnegonzales2973
@yvonnegonzales2973 3 жыл бұрын
Arabic language civil war
@IbadassI
@IbadassI 3 жыл бұрын
What does this actually prove? The recitation was revealed in a different dialect to what the people locally spoke, we already know this.
@marjanp
@marjanp 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the south dialect version, it should be written before northern one.
@IrfanKhan-lv5rf
@IrfanKhan-lv5rf 3 жыл бұрын
Sir with due respect, i have heard u people numerous times mentioning abt so many different qurans. If u r saying truth, do u mind uploading those differences in verses or words on some portal so that we can verify it ourself. And trust me if this is true i will be the first person to leave n denounce islam after seeing that
@blacksmith779
@blacksmith779 3 жыл бұрын
Are all the arguments and evidence in the series of videos not enough? It would be for me. Surely you yourself can do the research with just the Hafs and Warsh qurans.
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631 3 жыл бұрын
They are both a joke, any Arabic scholar will tell you that what they are discussing is really Ball shit .
@IrfanKhan-lv5rf
@IrfanKhan-lv5rf 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdelhamidbencheikh2631 brother u r in illusion. No muslim scholar has refuted them. They infact now accept that there are different qurans but give very silly n stupid logic for defending this
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631 3 жыл бұрын
@@IrfanKhan-lv5rf if you are really looking for the truth , this is my email : bencheikh.abdelhamid@gmail.com, I will be happy to discuss this matter and any doubt that you have, believe me Wallahi they are both a joke just read and look for this subject from knowledgeable people. Islam is the ultimate truth no doubt.
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631 3 жыл бұрын
@Aron Aronsky you don't know what you are talking about, you haven't read anything about Islam from Muslim sources, so you shouldn't get involved kid.
@deshar8513
@deshar8513 3 жыл бұрын
Who are these poor guys, trying desperately say something about preservation of Quran?! You have to learn so much! Really, I don't understand, nowadays everyone can say something like he is a scholar and nobody cares, whether he has credibility.
@deshar8513
@deshar8513 3 жыл бұрын
@mysotiras6 Muslims don't have to refute every nonsense. To me personally as a person, who spent 5 years studying Islam at Islamic Institute, it doesn't make any sense what he is talking about. I've studied the science of narrations called "science of hadeeth", which deals with chains of narrators, muslim scholars stydied their lifes and docemented every single one of them, until up to the prophet, we can learn about them and decide from whom we can take the information, by the way muslims are the only community on earth to have such science. Knowing that I have no doubts that the Quran is preserved. The proof is that now Quran is the same everywhere on the earth. The best way to know about Islam is to ask a good muslim scholar instead of listening to these kind of speakers, who are deluded and deluding others.
@Pax-Africana
@Pax-Africana 3 жыл бұрын
The Corpus of the 114 Surats informs us that there is a Tradition which claims to be an Apostolic Tradition yet rejects circumcision while the Apostles were all circumcised, didn't believe in Trinity, and had prescribed a dietary Law during the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15:22-34 which dietary law the said Tradition rejects. Is it not ironic! On the basis of those clues we can infer with certainty that: Qur'an is a codeword for the Torah of Moses Reminder should be the proper Title for the current corpus of those 114 Surats. Islam meaning an Evangelical Political Party supposed to restore the pristine Tradition of Jesus' disciples in Jerusalem and also enforce the Torah, the Law of Moses, as the Law of the land. Muhammad as a euphemism for Messiah/Christ Abu Quasim as an Arabian Evangelist who later became a Sovereign Ruler, Legislator...and picked Muhammad as a reign name. "We(the Children of Israel) sent you, O Abu Quasim, as an Apostle and a Prophet so that you and your people may believe in God and His Messiah/Muhammad/Christ, help Him, praise Him, sing hymns for Him evening and morning. Remember when Jesus Asked, 'who will assist me in the way of God? The disciples replied, 'we shall be the helpers of God; bear witness that we are Muslims.'" Surat... Unfortunately the "Muhammad" of the Palace and the "Mohammad" of the Shahada in the Mosque got blended together in the Tradition. If it is true that Abu Quasim signed off his formal treaties, official decrees, and other legislations as Muhammad as reported by Ibn Hisham, then this might explain how this present OPTICAL ILLUSION was perpetuated by those who were eager to capitalize on the Pilgrimage to Macca. Let's keep in mind that his Friday sermons in the Mosque were not about himself but about Christ/Messiah and His way. It' s high time to differentiate the palace and the Mosque under the Messianic title Muhammad.
@Zarghaam12
@Zarghaam12 3 жыл бұрын
The argument about diacritics makes no sense, i.e. if the Quran is from the South using Sabaic Arabic then it should have diacritics. There are plenty of inscriptions in the southern regions using the same Arabic script as the Quran, and have no diacritics. Also, the Sabaic script itself was completely different too. We all know that the Arabic script we have is derived from Nabateans. This has been known for over a century, so the argument about the lack of diacritics or that it is Sabaic ( the 'taa marbutah' or the 'alif maqsura' etc.) make no sense. None of these arguments hold! The first mention of Quraish, the tribe the Islamic prophet Mohammad belonged to, on a rock inscription. images.app.goo.gl/prsaMMP77Df9Rgxj8 The Prophet’s Tribe: The First Mention of Quraysh in an Inscription from the Dawn of Islam Juan Cole 06/05/2019 www.juancole.com/2019/06/prophets-mention-inscription.html Witness to History: Early Muslim Rock Inscriptions Speak of 769 A.D. Epidemic in Medina Juan Cole 04/03/2020 www.juancole.com/2020/04/witness-history-epidemic.html A Lihyanite stele with inscription. Lihyanite writing was common among the Lihyan tribes of northern Saudi Arabia. It is similar to the Thamudic script and consisted of 28 letters. Its use is attributed to 6th to 4th century BCE. i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/91/86/bf918687e111349713eef1bf4624a34c.jpg North Arabian Thamudic script: images.app.goo.gl/MUJHuw1YNe33JRwr6 Roots of Modern Arabic Script: From Musnad to Jazm © Saad D. Abulhab Baruch College, CUNY arabetics.com/public/html/more/History%20of%20the%20Arabic%20Script_article.htm
@kshazzy1
@kshazzy1 3 жыл бұрын
he called 'jannah' heaven when it means garden??
@koosvanzyl2605
@koosvanzyl2605 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone can take one of our modern translations of the Bible and say it is far removed from the original Greek or Hebrew. Was the Qu'ran not translated over the years as well?
@rizzochuenringe669
@rizzochuenringe669 3 жыл бұрын
No, that would be contrary to the narrative, that God's Angel Gabriel revealed God's own words to Mohammed. Any translated Quran would not be God's words anymore. A pretty self-destroying ideology.
@koosvanzyl2605
@koosvanzyl2605 3 жыл бұрын
@@rizzochuenringe669 Whatever. Quaran is irrelevant.
@koosvanzyl2605
@koosvanzyl2605 3 жыл бұрын
@@rizzochuenringe669 Whatever. The Quran is irrelevant.
@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739
@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739 3 жыл бұрын
What? The perfect book has the wrong word?
@shahrahman4368
@shahrahman4368 Жыл бұрын
Wrong - Wrong claim.
@yus7575
@yus7575 2 жыл бұрын
Quran not using wrong arabic but use many locution of arabic.. all locution in the middle east.. don't espect only in the area hejaz only. Arabic of the story in quran based on the location of the story of the prophet mention.. example if the story of moses is in egypt, so the arabic language should use that area locution..
@henktmmr
@henktmmr 3 жыл бұрын
It is sad that people are deceived by islam. The book of Revelation is about the end time. Everything after that is a fraud. And there is a warning for a curse is on the last page of this book.
@abdulrahimmohdsharif5251
@abdulrahimmohdsharif5251 3 жыл бұрын
Most trust and rely on other Creations, whom they idolised and hero worshipped, knowing fully well the limitations/weaknesses that caused mistakes and accidents and make a fool of themselves, instead of Trust and Rely on THE CREATOR/ORIGINATOR of The Heavens and The Earth, above within and below them. GOD is not part of The Equation.
@MrXucinxgaronx
@MrXucinxgaronx 3 жыл бұрын
Gospel is in a wrong language , Jesus and his apostles did not speak greek
@jasonaustin4681
@jasonaustin4681 3 жыл бұрын
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Greek was the lingua franca in the 1st century Abdul. Every historian knows this, Jesus and his followers would’ve spoken Greek fluently. Learn some history before you spew your garbage.
@dudeduderinoduderino9689
@dudeduderinoduderino9689 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I am concerned ALL arabic is wrong....Why because it is intrinsically connected with the quran...They do not KNOW what dialect of the arabic is the correct version?
@nazeemsultan123
@nazeemsultan123 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the killing of the son of God bigger than eating a dumb apple in heaven? Didnt make sense at all
@mandalorianmoggie7108
@mandalorianmoggie7108 3 жыл бұрын
What apple in heaven are you referring to ?
@zoeashes6347
@zoeashes6347 3 жыл бұрын
Just deflect ... is it not? Deflect, deflect, deflect ....when you cannot provide a single evidence to anyone intelligent that the Quran is a credible book, not a man fabricated fake.
@JamesBond-dn5gt
@JamesBond-dn5gt 3 жыл бұрын
Bible Don't have jesus langguage(aramic)
@jasonaustin4681
@jasonaustin4681 3 жыл бұрын
The New Testament was written in Greek not Aramaic. Jesus and many of the people of that time period were multilingual. Greek was the lingua Franca of the 1st century, hence why the New Testament was written in Greek.
@GOODdeels
@GOODdeels 2 жыл бұрын
This is false, actually. Ahmad Al-Jallad himself calls Quranic Arabic "Hejazi Arabic". It is undoublty a Hejazi dialect of Old Arabic.
@GOODdeels
@GOODdeels 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the Hejaz and the southern of the Levant are literally an extension of the same region.
@htxhallitronix1569
@htxhallitronix1569 3 жыл бұрын
🥺
@jeffglenn7609
@jeffglenn7609 3 жыл бұрын
Petra
@daves.8869
@daves.8869 3 жыл бұрын
You may have been doing too deep of a dive into Arabic when you get Waldo mixed up with وَادِي. Step back, breathe and don't forget your towel.
@aaaabraham837
@aaaabraham837 3 жыл бұрын
These 2 stooges AGAIN is talking Bullshit as the eeliest Quran with it's Hejazi script is well studied by experts and the Hejazi script, literally "relating to Hejaz", is the collective name for a number of early Arabic scripts that developed in the Hejaz region of the Arabian Peninsula, which includes the cities of Mecca and Medina. This type of script was already in use at the time of the emergence of Islam. In 2015, the University of Birmingham disclosed that scientific tests may show a Quran manuscript in its collection as one of the oldest known and believe it was written close to the time of Muhammad. The findings in 2015 of the Birmingham Manuscripts lead Joseph E. B. Lumbard, Assistant Professor of Classical Islam, Brandeis University, to comment: These recent empirical findings are of fundamental importance. They establish that as regards the broad outlines of the history of the compilation and codification of the Quranic text, the classical Islamic sources are far more reliable than had hitherto been assumed. Such findings thus render the vast majority of Western revisionist theories regarding the historical origins of the Quran untenable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ3VZH2vZ8pmo80
@muhammadal-almshari
@muhammadal-almshari 3 жыл бұрын
Sabaic language is not Arabic .
@k4ihacceptthetruthevenifyo208
@k4ihacceptthetruthevenifyo208 2 жыл бұрын
The title is so foolish😭
@nazimnasir71
@nazimnasir71 3 жыл бұрын
Quran produced by God Almighty is using wrong arabic only means the arabs are wrong in using the terminology. In other word human create God! Wow this in beyond comprehension. If it’s wrong please produce one ayah similar or better than it.
@pscion12
@pscion12 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha this proves nothing but the shallowness of knowledge shown here. It was written in several dialects and one was eventually chosen. Heck even in some narrations there’s a commentary on the dialect used for the recitations. *This is nothing new and is already pre-existing information. Go to any mosque and any imam can tell you that.
@mohdaffendiadenan4391
@mohdaffendiadenan4391 3 жыл бұрын
Muhammad s.a.w comes from heaven ...
@mandalorianmoggie7108
@mandalorianmoggie7108 3 жыл бұрын
Is that why he was a sex maniac ?
@zoeashes6347
@zoeashes6347 3 жыл бұрын
Confirming your utter stupidity and further showing the stupidity of Abdools ... Not even the Quran itself nor the Hadiths or the Siras say that Muhammad came down from heaven ... And you simply claim that? How stupid can you be? How shameless can you be? How brainwashed can you be? How blind can you be?
@mohdaffendiadenan4391
@mohdaffendiadenan4391 3 жыл бұрын
@@zoeashes6347 you better learn more ... This topic comes under Usuludfin plus Tasauf ...
@zoeashes6347
@zoeashes6347 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohdaffendiadenan4391 So came from lying scholars ... asking me to learn from liars ? Mo source is not heaven ... And there were no credible and independent eyewitnesses that he went to heaven and came back ... ever ... again only hearsay ... which are lies which becomes a belief ... not facts. This is the deep problem with your fake man invented ideology for 1400 years ...and it is now falling apart ...
@mohdaffendiadenan4391
@mohdaffendiadenan4391 3 жыл бұрын
@@zoeashes6347 a mitos Christian created again Islamic mitos ... Slowly in practice Christians bowed to us ... Either agree or not ... Try to block the emerging and well received Islamic Finance... From mitos , theology , philosophy ... practice ... Block our Finance practice ... Even the top University such as Monash from Australia learning our finance indoctrination ... Are they stupid ... yes... You can call them stupid ... Stupid Monash lecturers who are Christian ...
@Zovlanov
@Zovlanov 3 жыл бұрын
Bambang Noorsena
@yassinait
@yassinait 3 жыл бұрын
Jay talk to Dr Zakir Naik sow he can teach you more
@abdelkerimmahfoudh8993
@abdelkerimmahfoudh8993 3 жыл бұрын
you are making fools out of your selves for example here's a line of Arabic poetry made by Hasan bin Thabit from Yathrib (Medina ) about the ghassanids before the emerging of Islam as a religion بـِيضُ الوجوه كريمةُ أحسابهم شمَ الأنوف من الطراز الأولِ you can see the taa marbouta in it so please do your home work first before you come forward and make a fool out of your self
@salancy3279
@salancy3279 3 жыл бұрын
💐💐🙏✝️💖
@muezamueza2797
@muezamueza2797 3 жыл бұрын
Quran in a wrong language Hahaha these two devout Christian try every lies they can think of to deviate Muslim. This is a brand new videos series invented by jays smith and his panel of dubious experts... Hahaha. 1). Ta marbuta In this lie video, Jay Smith talk about Ta marbuta that make Arabic into two different language dialect Let’s talk about Ta marbuta first Ta marbuta is a variant of the letter ta, but the writing has differences and this letter is not found at the beginning of the word, the writing of ta marbuta is more similar to the letter ha (ه) at the end of the word, but if it is in the middle of the word, then the writing is the same as the normal letter ta . For example, in the word barakat (براكة), ta marbuta is written like the letter ha, but in the word barakatuh (بركاته), ta marbuta is written like the normal letter ta. So according to Jay Smith PhD, Nabatean and Sabean Arabic are two distinctly different language because when they write a word blessing the Nabatean Arabic write it this way barakat (براكة), meaning blessing While the Sabean Arabic write it this way barakatuh (بركاته), meaning blessing Quran written mostly in Nabatean dialect way of writing. Jay complain because it should be written in Sabean dialect. 2). Dialects impossible to spread outside According to Jay Smith's way of thinking, hijazi or nabatean or sabean arabic language cannot spread anywhere. They theories the Hijazi and Nabatean dialect only restricted to the respective boxes area and cannot move over the line because of the physical barrier, may be .... Hahaha. . 3) Dialects can spread outside their region In reality, the influence of the language and beliefs of the Nabateans was not limited to around Petra but was spread to the Hijaz, the box green area around Mecca and Medina. In the old days, There was an Al-Lat shrine near Taif. Al Uzza was worshiped at Nakhlah to the east of Mecca. The shape was in the form of three trees. Manat was manifested in the form of a black stone in Qudayd, the area between Makkah and Medina. Al Lat, Al Manat and Al Uzza were the main gods of the Nabateans. Jay must be confused why there are Nabatean idols in the Hijaz area around Mecca and Medina. So when Jay Smith found some Nabatean dialect in the Meccan dialect, he immediately shouted that Mecca was in the wrong location, it should be in a Nabatean red box area ... hahaha. In reality, not only the belief system of the Nabatean spread to Mecca, but the Nabatean Arabic dialect spread to Hijaz. Therefore the appearance of some distinctive Nabatean words, is not caused by the wrong location of the Mecca, but because of the Nabatean influence spread to the Hijaz. 3). Conclusion Jay Smith PhD mind power is very simple BTW in the middle of USS there is a group of people who speak in old German dialect. The printed the Bible in old German dialect. I think when Jay Smith read a Bible written old German dialect printed by Mennonite people in United States, he immediately shouted this village must be in the wrong place, it should be in Germany not America.... Hahaha. That's just an illustration how very simple the mind of Jay Smith PhD... Hahaha.
@HarunaBabajiUmar
@HarunaBabajiUmar 3 жыл бұрын
If I may ask what language did Jesus (Isa may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him and his mother) speak and in what language was the first Bible written and who wrote it?
@HarunaBabajiUmar
@HarunaBabajiUmar 3 жыл бұрын
@Wolli Creek Jesus spoke Aramaic, the first gospel written in Greek by Mark was written 70 years after Jesus, do the maths and tell me is the bible really the word of God.
@muhammadqureshi5082
@muhammadqureshi5082 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarunaBabajiUmar kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX-0i4Z8l7V2f6c
@daves.8869
@daves.8869 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarunaBabajiUmar Accepting the biblical account has Jesus dying between 30-35 CE and the book written around the time of the Temple's destruction (70 CE). As far as the language used is concerned; there are many people who are multilingual. Aramaic was the lingua franca of the region, but the well educated, connected, and traveled people used Greek. What I refuse to believe is that we imperfect humans can create science that is translated into various languages that can range from life saving medical treatments to the terrible horrors of nuclear, biological, and chemical wars and yet somehow a God is so incompetent that they can only get their message out in one language.
@HarunaBabajiUmar
@HarunaBabajiUmar 3 жыл бұрын
@Wolli Creek The Qur'an was memorized by heart throughout the life of the Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). The revelation of the Qur'an started at Makka and ended in Madina totalling 23 years. In those years the Qur'an was memorized by heart and written on bones, hides and other materials. If you take all the written copies of the Qur'an and burn them it will take just a couple of hours before you can have thousands of copies available. Can you say that about the Bible?
@HarunaBabajiUmar
@HarunaBabajiUmar 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know that there are different versions of the bible? Some with more books than others.
@arseniovaldez1812
@arseniovaldez1812 3 жыл бұрын
Hey expert!why dont you dicussed with our scholors in ISLAM,you dont even speak arabic!you are expert with out getting the real message!
@othmanahmad7331
@othmanahmad7331 2 жыл бұрын
Very pity. You are trying hard to disproved al quran and for sure you will never succeed. Al quran is useful for people who are really seeking for guidance not for haters or ignorant.
@ttt3258
@ttt3258 3 жыл бұрын
Quran chapter 99 sura In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. 1. When the earth is shaken with its quake. 2. And the earth brings out its loads. 3. And man says, “What is the matter with it?” 4. On that Day, it will tell its tales. 5. For your Lord will have inspired it. 6. On that Day, the people will emerge in droves, to be shown their works. 7. Whoever has done an atom's weight of good will see it. 8. And whoever has done an atom's weight of evil will see it.
@ttt3258
@ttt3258 3 жыл бұрын
Keep your eyes closed , don't bother to open them
@fruitsap8325
@fruitsap8325 3 жыл бұрын
@Wolli Creek these words don't come from muhammad but from the creator of the heavens and earth Allah swt and he is all knowing
@mandalorianmoggie7108
@mandalorianmoggie7108 3 жыл бұрын
@@fruitsap8325 Your allah did not even know arabic.
@goinghome1191
@goinghome1191 3 жыл бұрын
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that Whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. Jesus was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, willingly died on the cross, rose again the third day. Believe in Him and have eternal life.
@ttt3258
@ttt3258 3 жыл бұрын
Just worship the Creator The One and Only God .. story of jesus birth , raad kurdy . watch on youtube , the truth
@hasen_judi
@hasen_judi 3 жыл бұрын
You're jumping to the wrong conclusions too quickly. Yes, the Quran has features that indicate that at least parts of it are from the levant. Does that necessarily mean that Muhammad was from there? Not necessarily. Check this out: The traditions narrated by early muslims tell us that there's a man named "Dahya al-Kalbi" and that Jibril (Gabriel) would take his form when talking with Muhammad. دحية الكلبي Do you see the clue? Jibril is supposed to be the one who brought the Quran to Muhammad. But apparently he was just a regular man! What else do we know about Dahya? He was from the levant, and he had fair skin and blonde hair and was very handsome. So the easy conclusion is that at least some parts of the Quran were given to Muhammad by this man named Dahya al-Kalbi, who brought it to him from the levant.
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 I swear to God you both a joke.
@ssv7195
@ssv7195 3 жыл бұрын
You should not swear
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631
@abdelhamidbencheikh2631 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssv7195 I swear to God because I know what am talking about.
@Egyptian_muslim_1
@Egyptian_muslim_1 3 жыл бұрын
Jay do you take drugs or hashish or weed You said Qur'an use wrong Arabic. Hhhhhhhhhhhhhh All Arabic grammar taken from qur'an..
@Yusuf-kn6tg
@Yusuf-kn6tg 3 жыл бұрын
Shame ,trying to debunk Islam ,how desperate to put out the light of God ,when God says in his final revelation to mankind (the Quran), he will perfect his light as much as the disbelievers (you guys) hate it . Don’t you have a faith to focus on and practice ? How pathetic
@henktmmr
@henktmmr 3 жыл бұрын
But you cannot refute because it is the truth what they are saying. Islam is a false cult. It deceives people.
@Yusuf-kn6tg
@Yusuf-kn6tg 3 жыл бұрын
@@henktmmr ok ,u believe what u want,bet yr eternity on it
@goinghome1191
@goinghome1191 3 жыл бұрын
@@henktmmr Yusuf likes deception he wallows in it. It seems like anyone that tells the truth is the enemy to Muslim's, it's weird.
@Yusuf-kn6tg
@Yusuf-kn6tg 3 жыл бұрын
@@goinghome1191 u believe these losers? Without honestly checking things out yourself with other unbiased sources ? Says a lot about ppl on this platform -zero honesty for truthseeking
@Yusuf-kn6tg
@Yusuf-kn6tg 3 жыл бұрын
@mysotiras6 al Quran -the proof (unless you have a blind diseased heart)
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