The R262's, A BETTER SUBWAY?

[@MysticTransit]

What company would you like to build the R262's? What features do you want to see on them? Want to support the channel further? Become a channel member! kzbin.info/door/5wN82Chzc1fu0BGx9yNN_gjoin

[@iNevaan]

Kawasaki

[@MysticTransit]

Same

[@YouTubeLover123]

Kawasaki because Bombardier… you know… *lemon*

[@gspaulsson]

@@KZbinLover123 On another subject, is there any thought to adding a subway deck to the Verazzano bridge? Having to take a ferry seems antiquated.

[@marcinorszulak5601]

How about some goddamn USBs on the train like many modern train and bus systems have?

[@kc3302]

Open gangways have another major feature - safety. You can easily see right through the train (or the 5-car block at least) so that discourages antisocial behaviour, and if someone is doing the wrong thing people can easily move to the next carriage. This point alone should be more than enough reason for New York to have open gangways on all future trains.

[@odemata87]

Some would argue having compartments adds to safety as well by isolating situations

[@TCOTAM]

@Ken Chapman although they can, the guy can walk right through the cars.

[@kc3302]

@@TCOTAM Current trains have a narrow communication door with a small window which provides limited vision & lower perceived safety. With an open gangways the door is 3-4 times the size giving clearer vision through the train and easier access not having to fumble with doors.

[@Dee-sz4jc]

After the recent shooting on the subway i think I'll stick with closed gangways.

[@acetakeoff4798]

@@Dee-sz4jc lol thats why everyone was locked in thoo lol

[@pronoob9437]

It’s gonna be a sad goodbye to most R142(A)’s on the 2 4 5 lines, but I do like the R142 1 part. And seeing R142A’s on the 6 again would be amazing

[@Blank00]

R142As have only been on the 4 line as of recently. But it's the R142s that have been on 2, 4, and 5.

[@VinceHere98]

I think the R262’s will take up most of the 3 and 4’s fleet, while the 2 and 5 get to keep their R142’s. The 1 and 6 will both get the R142’s AND R142A’s displaced from the 4, while also getting a small number of R262’s. In short: 3 and 4: R262’s only 2 and 5: R142’s only 1 and 6: Variety of A Division NTT’s.

[@douglaswells6656]

Yeah I would like to see that

[@leecornwell5632]

​@@douglaswells6656They would definitely have to find a builder and company factory who is gonna build the Brand New R262/AS . However the R62AS R62S is holding it down real good just like the R32S.

[@douglaswells6656]

I Hear You Just Hopefully for the Next 2 Years It doesn't get into no Accident

[@metromaster2010]

I think you nailed it pretty well with the desired improvements. As for where the cars will end up in terms of assignment, I think this could be a toss-up depending on which IRT line is next for CBTC.

[@MysticTransit]

The Lexington Avenue Line is set to get CBTC before 7th, so, I'd expect the 2/4/5/6 to have some car changes (The 2 because of the shared fleet with the 5).

[@scytheyt4051]

@@MysticTransit you realize if they want 1 line to have CBTC they need to make every other line CBTC because there all connected yes even the 1 and 6 according to the MTA CBTC on mainline IRT will be very complicated.

[@MysticTransit]

The 1 and 6 do not run along the same trackage. CBTC can stop after a certain point, the whole line doesn't need to have it. Just look at the Queens Boulevard Line with CBTC, and a connecting trunk, the 6 Avenue doesn't. There are only two ways to get between the two lines directly, Crosstown via 42 St, and via the unused South Ferry Loop. According to the MTA, the Lexington Avenue Line will be getting CBTC first.

[@scytheyt4051]

@@MysticTransit True and it’s a good thing the Lexington is getting CBTC First and don’t forget you could be extra and take the 6 to the 4 or 5 to the 2 to the 1 but that sounds REAL EXTRA

[@blue9multimediagroup]

There is no connection between Lex and 8th Ave along 42nd St. That was severed when they removed the center tracks. Each Shuttle track only connects with the respective ends so you can't run a train between both sides. However, there is a backtrack connection via the 2/4/5/6 at 149 St-Grand Concourse.

[@DanTheCaptain]

Open-gangways I think are a must. This is coming from a Torontonian. Trust when is say travelling on the Rockets is a much more pleasant experience than on the older T1’s. It’s literally night and day and something is think most new North American subway rolling stock has missed out on. I that all the R211’s should feature these open-gangways and not just the R211T’s, but I’m still happy that you guys down south will be getting some. 20 is better than none. The new MARTA QC400’s are also amazing for this reason imo

[@andrewweitzman4006]

Same here for a Montrealer regarding the AZUR trains. Don't get me wrong, I have a deep fondness for the old MR-63's and MR-73's, with their natural "DA DA DAAAAAH! power up tones as they pull out of the station. They are the classic Montreal Metro car that everyone grew up with. But the Azur's are just so much more airy and ergonomic (with those wide doors so you don''t have to squeeze in and out).

[@TCOTAM]

I agree it would be cool and is a must, but there is one little problem. So let’s say a crazy person with a gun comes on the train. The guy can shoot straight down from one end of the train to the other end.

[@andrewweitzman4006]

@@TCOTAM That is, frankly, not a problem that is an issue for the dozens of transit systems that use open gangway trainsets. That's more of a "we have too many crazy people with access to guns" issue, which is social rather than technological.

[@TCOTAM]

@@andrewweitzman4006 true I didn’t think about that lol

[@danielsamuels5857]

Don't forget the Mark 3s in Vancouver.

[@tjr.2648]

i’m still wondering who’s bright idea it was to change all the IRT announcements. i could understand the 5 having the voice from the 2 if its traveling on the 7th ave line. But everything should go back to the way it was

[@camacakegd3714]

I think they did that to save storage or something, which is stupid, pretty sure I can save all those announcements on my hard drive

[@samuelitooooo]

Notice that there's a mishmash of old and new announcements. I think part of it is that they want to recycle old announcements as much as possible, which wouldn't surprise me if it were a cost-saving measure so they don't pay as much for people to record announcements and then edit them so they sound good through the speakers. I assume they get paid anyway 😳. Another reason I've heard is, long story short, some people speak faster than others. MTA's been trying to reduce dwell times for a while. I haven't ridden the numbered lines lately but I first noticed this on the R179s which all use the same "next stop" voice, even on the J. Before the pandemic I also noticed they removed "This is a Woodlawn-bound 4 train" when you're at Mosholu Parkway, so you only hear the next and last stop.

[@aqua438]

@@camacakegd3714 supposedly I heard it was because the messages had gotten corrupted while they were changing certain stop names

[@DouglasWells-w9j]

So if the R262 Goes into Production I'm sure it's gonna go on the 3 and 6 line

[@YouTubeLover123]

R211: IRT Edition Jokes aside, I do look forward to seeing what the R262s are like in service. I’d want Kawasaki to build them, but Alston would work as well. Just not Bombardier.

[@MysticTransit]

Bombardier kinda isn't a thing anymore. Alstom bought them out. But I do agree, Kawasaki or Alstom would be the best options.

[@vibinzey]

@@MysticTransit true after bombardier made the 179s they fell off but if kawaski makes them they alrdy have 99% of the train done they just need to make it skinnier like the r142as.

[@scytheyt4051]

@@MysticTransit Kawasaki is going to build the R262 Trust me

[@YouTubeLover123]

@@MysticTransit yeah, Bombardier likely can’t even bring another one of their MTA trains (if they even build another) into service due to the R179s failing miserably (lemon train moment). Plus if the train has this much features an actual good train company is probably gonna be the ones that manufacture it

[@nyctransitrailfan]

@@scytheyt4051 I don’t trust you

[@nattyblu]

Continuity with the announcements is MUCH NEEDED!!!

[@nah_144]

It might be difficult for the R262's with opengangway's to be on the (5) line because of the sharp curve at 149 street-Grand Concourse. Still I hope that the majority of the order will consist of opengangway's.

[@MysticTransit]

I think the gangways can manage the curves. There's another system out there with sharp curves and open gangways (London).

[@nicolasblume1046]

Not true. There are many Systems with sharper curves that have trains with open gangways.

[@qjtvaddict]

@@nicolasblume1046 exactly

[@shasavi97]

we need the open gangways to have the 3 homeless people spread the smell to the whole train not just 2 cars😂

[@craigsmith6039]

@@nicolasblume1046 are they as sharp as Chicago L?

[@keepithonest4626]

The 1, 3 & 6, than the 2 4 & 5 should get them however upgrading the r 142s wouldn't hurt either namely the interior design and simply cleaning the outside of the trains which add to their appearance.

[@MichaelfromtheGraves]

Completely agree with the call for larger windows. Either with windows through the sliding door pockets or exterior mounted doors like London.

[@williamerazo3921]

Larger windows bring in more heat like the Central line stock in London

[@LIRRSBSPRODUCTION]

I want Kawasaki or Alstom to build them and I hope to see screens on them like the R188s and R142As.

[@MysticTransit]

Same.

[@robotx9285]

Yeah, screw bombarder .. GET Alstom, Kawasaki and Siemens on this crap.

[@gamereric2189]

Siemens would be really really nice! Seriously, when have they ever made a bad car?

[@eeejaytrainz2902]

In my opinion I think it really dont matter which train manufacturer would make it. Right now Kawasaki got its hand full making additional M8s M9s and r211s, and it's unknown if Bombardier would continue making trains for MTA.

[@LIRRSBSPRODUCTION]

@@eeejaytrainz2902 Siemens could step in if that’s the case

[@apexhunter935]

Seeing the possibility that the 142a's could return to the 6 wowould be the dream. Although with the new cars I'd also like to see usb outlets and maybe even wifi on them. Edit: they definitely did jessica dirty in terms of removing a bunch of her announcement lines

[@MysticTransit]

Yeah, the new cars would be nice, but I would love for the R142A's to come back to the (6).

[@williamerazo3921]

There’s Wi-Fi 🤔

[@scytheyt4051]

@@MysticTransit The 6 will be mixed with R262 And R142A

[@BXpitbull24]

@@scytheyt4051 No it won’t the 262s would go to the 3 train before the 6. IMO

[@scytheyt4051]

@@BXpitbull24 if you said it’s going to the 3 before the 6 and I said the 6 is having R262 and R142A how are you going to say the 3 is getting it before the 6 it’s common sense the R62 are retiring before the R62A

[@nicolasblume1046]

Seriously, I can't believe the new trains don't have open gangways. This has been standard around the world for 20 years already! This is embarrassing for New York.

[@qjtvaddict]

New York is the worst large city subway system wise

[@vektheartist]

Gonna miss the 62’s forreal and the door chimes. I always loved the design too. Probably the first subway car I’ve seen and rode when I was VERY little. I would always watch them from my grandmother’s project building window at 125th St. Station. I wish they kept a similar look but upgraded the tech, almost like how DC’s newer rolling stock still resembles their old but it looks more updated.

[@dodge1515]

They probably won't want a repeat of the R46 order or more recently, the R179 order.

[@jayuski]

Kawasaki is always superior to Bombardier. It's like comparing Toyota to Chrysler.

[@blue9multimediagroup]

BOMBARDIER isn't a thing for transit anymore

[@jayuski]

@@blue9multimediagroup I liked the Old St. Louis Car Company.

[@Sean8888TTP]

The 7 is fine with r188s I don’t get why people say they should get r262

[@jaytv25]

It's mainly because R188 is made of the R110A which has retired and is like 30 years old if you are talking about what it is made out of

[@mariodude7424]

I really like the idea with the 2,4,5,3 to use the R262s and the locals like the 6 to use the rest of the R142a

[@Fabian-r142a-6-express]

You right r262 is running only the express line like 2 3 4 5 7 train and the local line will be 1 and 6 train

[@leecornwell5632]

Keep in mind the A devisin iRT lines is definitely gonna have both Equipments R262As end ways R262s Open gangways.

[@michaelpinkneyjr]

Honestly they should’ve kept the announcements the same as before it just sounds erratic and too much. If it’s not broken don’t fix it but honestly I love the video and keep doing what your doing 💯

[@dodge1515]

I wouldn't mind Kawasaki building the R262 cars, but Alstom might get the 504 car contract as Kawasaki is working on the R211s and the MTA rarely issues multiple subway car contracts to the same manufacturer at the same time.

[@MysticTransit]

Yeah, that would make the most sense. Maybe Alstom for the first contract, and Kawasaki for the 2/3. An R160 situation wouldn't be bad.

[@ForcingShots]

@@MysticTransit kawalstom

[@scytheyt4051]

Alstom won’t get jack :/

[@douglaswells6656]

If the R262 goes Into Production It should go on the 6 line

[@douglaswells6656]

Yeah I also know why they did the switch of putting the R188 on the 7 line and the 6 getting the old ones back

[@elijahdrake6016]

You have done wonderful job and you spoke my thoughts because I know that these newer trains would go to the 245 and the older trains would to 136

[@Beeksucksatcommenting]

In Australia, our oldest train cars called the V sets which were built in 1970 to 1989 have gangways also but some cars don’t as some ex driving cars have been coupled to a normal trailer car. Although you have to be careful as the floor between the gangways don’t seal the whole floor (the floor is actually couplers connected to each other)

[@thoseonetrains]

as a resident who lives next to the 2/5, it would definetly be interesting to see the R262s on the 2 and 5.

[@marshmelloesv2892]

Ive always wanted R142As on the 5

[@scytheyt4051]

@@marshmelloesv2892 happened sometimes.

[@scytheyt4051]

Same I live next to the 2/5 too but R262 on the 2 and 5 might kill it

[@MysticTransit]

It won't kill it. That's impossible.

[@scytheyt4051]

@@MysticTransit You never know what the MTA can do.🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Amiri_Francis]

A little message to the people that are saying that the 1 3 and 6 trains will receive the R262s solely cause their currently using R62s and R62As. That’s not always an accurate way of predicting train fleet assignments as just because the newest subway car fleet is replacing the oldest train cars fleet does not immediately guarantee that the routes using that particular train car fleet is gonna get the newer cars the same thing goes for the N/Q/W which the R211. When the R142s and R160s first arrived many fleet assignments changes occurred during their deliveries so the R211 and R262 will likely result in the same thing. In the case of the R143s and R188s their didn’t had much of an impact as they were only assigned to the 7 and L trains respectively. The R179s were there to replace the little amount of R32s and R42s that were on the A/C and J/Z trains respectively so again nothing major. But changes will be coming soon to the fleet

[@CR1Creative]

It was my impression that Lexington Avenue is getting CBTC first Before 7th Avenue and with R142/A's getting retrofitted for CBTC Above those two factors I Believe, determine where the R262's are going Base order (504 cars) 480 cars in this Base order are going to the 5 line This Will Displace 400 R142's to the 3 line Retiring All R62's in Livonia Yard Since the 2 and 5 share a fleet they can swap interchangeably between R142's and R262's The 42nd Street Shuttle is Obviously Getting The Base order of 24 cars with 6-car sets Retiring All R62A's in Livonia Yard Option order 1 (445 cars) The 1st Option order of 445 cars are going to the 6 line to fully support CBTC on Lexington Avenue Retiring All R62A's in Westchester Yard Option order 2 (415 cars) The 2nd Option order of 415 cars are going to the 4 line This will Displace 420 R142/A's to the 1 line Retiring All R62A's in 240th Street Yard The R262's are being ordered to Retire All R62/A's and to fully support CBTC on Lexington Avenue NOT to Increase capacity or to ease overcrowding For the People that are saying the 1, 3 and 6 lines would receive R262's solely cause their currently using R62/A's. That's not always accurate way of predicting train fleet assignments as just because the newest subway car fleet is replacing the oldest train car fleet does not immediately guarantee that the routes using that particular train car fleet is gonna get the newer cars the same thing goes for the N/Q/W When the R142's and R160's first arrived may fleet assignments changes occuring during their deliveries so the R211 and R262's will likely result in the same thing. In the case of the R143's and R188's they didn't had much of an impact as they were only assigned to the 7, J/Z and L trains respectively. The R179's were there to replace the little amount of the R32's and R42's that were on the A/C and J/Z trains respectively so again nothing major. But changes will be coming soon to the fleet

[@SupremeSiege]

Couldn’t say this better myself amazing job 👍

[@GustavSvard]

I've spent a whole 10 days in NYC 18 years ago, so my expertise on this is unmatched ;) Just kidding. But my city (Stockholm) has a subway system in many ways based on the NYC one when it comes to how the cars etc were originally designed! And we have moved on. The model we're currently getting delivered is open gangway and lets of other new things such as interior LCD screens. But one aspect were the newer cars here are clearly better than the older models is noise. The new ones are way less noisy, both inside and outside. What are the newer ones in NYC like with regards to noise? Same as older models when they were new, or is there an improvement?

[@MysticTransit]

There are some improvements. You can notice the level of track noise and traction motor sounds go down on the interior. On the exterior, they are actually louder lmao.

[@GustavSvard]

@@MysticTransit Nice that they at least get a bit less noisy on the inside. Maybe the root cause of the way to noisy subways in NYC are more to do with the state of the tracks? I know there's certain curves & stations in Stockholm that are clearly more noisy than other sections.

[@vibinzey]

9:25 FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS MY PAIN. MTA TOOK GOOD R142AS FROM THE 6 AND PUT EM ON THE 7 FOR CBTC (Good Reasoning) BUT YALL AINT TAKE THE R142/As AND GAVE THEM TO THE 6 IN 2015? THE PELHAM LINE TAKE WAY BETTER CARE OF THERE UNITS BUT THE 4 LINE SAID FUCK IT IF ITS PICKING UP PEOPLE ION CARE.

[@nyctransitrailfan]

Childish ass comment, go play Fortnite would ya, take your rage somewhere else, it isn’t that big of a deal. Obsessed train fan

[@tjr4459]

The MTA is so far behind the times it’s shameful. Not to mention how disgusting the subway system is in general.

[@margaroacevedo8781]

As far as I know the R211S are the replacement cars for the Staten Island Transit Authority R44S, and dont include open gangway.

[@Sean8888TTP]

I want the r142A back on the 6

[@btd7664]

Well, one thing is certain. Bums will be sh*tting in these cars within their first week of usage.

[@edwin5licqb906]

I think the R-62s held up pretty well and seem to have plenty of life in them, it would be a shame to scrap the whole fleet of 62s proven reliable.

[@DoubleHCreations]

4:45 I agree. They could’ve used a red color for the inside LED, just like the MBTA’s Red, Orange, and Blue lines.

[@Amiri_Francis]

Hello there I came up with two scenarios of the order happening I say split it into two order to better manage resources R262As R262Bs the 42nd Street shuttle will definitely get them Option 1 The 4 and 6 train would receive the R262s and be fully R262Bs and the 2 and 5 trains would mostly get the R262As but still keep some R142s. The 6 train will definitely get these cars in this scenario. The MTA would want the newest train fleet operating on the Lexington Avenue line for the CBTC project it’s very likely that the entire R142/A fleet from the 4 train and at least 50%-60% of the R142 fleet from the 2/5 trains will be reassigned to the 1 and 3 trains. The R142s and R142As on the 4 train would be sent to the 3 train The R142s on the 2/5 train would be sent to the 1 train. 4/6 are fully R262s. The 2/5 are mostly R262s but some R142s would remain there to save money. I mean the R262s are replacing the R62/As right. But again the newest doesn’t always necessarily directly replace the oldest train fleet. And the 2/5 is the most heavily used train route in the Bronx so again needs the extra capacity that larger doors and open gangway offers. Option 2 The ridership level case so in this case I believe makes more sense is that the IRT express routes get the R262s they are very heavily used and crowded and are in dire need of extra capacity so the MTA would definitely want to have the newest and hopefully most reliable subway car fleet operating there. The 2/3/4/5 would get the R262s all of the displaced R142s and R142As would be reassigned to the IRT mainline Locals the 1 and 6 trains. The R142s and R142As on the 4 train would be sent to the 6 train The R142s on the 2/5 train would be sent to the 1 train. Again the 2/5 keep some R142s but the would be dominanted by R262s. As a bonus the R142As finally get to return to the very subway route they first began operating passenger service on. In either case the 7 train is extremely unlikely to receive the R262a as the R188s are in amazing shape.

[@iNevaan]

R142A (3) 😩

[@leecornwell5632]

The R62AS would be sent to the 8 Thrid Ave Elevated line or the R262As .

[@Amiri_Francis]

@@leecornwell5632 Dude the 3rd avenue El hasn’t been a thing since the mid 1970s

[@LuisFCruz-ov5mn]

Overall I feel like the (1) line truly deserves new subway cars those R62A’s on the (1) line looks filthy

[@camera9024]

#1

[@thaIllYankee]

Great insight & much appreciated!!! As a lifelong New Yorker, I've been fascinated with how the MTA will expand & improve since I was a boy who wanted to be tall enough to see through the window of the front car of IRT trains to see them roll into stations. It's beautiful & exciting to see the recently proposed new cars & lines (b/w Qns & BK + the 2nd Ave Extension) bring those visions to life!!!

[@marcinorszulak5601]

How about some goddamn USBs on the train like many modern train and bus systems have?

[@qjtvaddict]

@@marcinorszulak5601 we have it on buses lol most metro trains don’t have usb but they have Wi-Fi

[@BrianGomez8888]

1:59 Looks better than the outside

[@GeraldGreen-s4x]

How bout this:--- bring back the K TRAIN START FROM ROCKAWAY PARKWAY WITH THE L TRAIN TO BROADWAY JUNCTION THEN RUN LOCAL TO ESSEX ST WITH THE J TRAIN THEN USE THE CHRISTY CONECTION AND RUN VIA TO WEST 4TH ST THEN RUN TO 168TH ST AND RUN LOCAL AND MOVE THE C TRAIN TO DO MORE EXP SERVICE COMING DOWNTOWN ALONG 8TH AVE WHERE YOU HAVE THE E AND K TRAIN / THE A & C CAN RUN EXP ALONG 8TH AVE....

[@djash7161]

Dividers between Seats to DetourBums from Sleeping Across seats

[@blue9multimediagroup]

That will decrease seating capacity.

[@jadenmuniz8817]

With the R62s and R62As retired by the R262s, all number lines will be officially NTT. Now my prediction is that MTA will stick to its new car-most used line policy, and put the R262s on the 2, 4, and 5 lines, sending their R142s to the 1, 3, 6, and 42 St Shuttle lines, and I also believe the 3 will get R142As, since that’s what happened with the R62s when the Redbirds were retired by the R142s. It’s fair, actually, since the 3 is the last express route left.

[@tombarzey7964]

The White Plains Rd line then a few years later, the Dyre Ave line had signal upgrades I believe between 2008 and 2018. Those lines should have gotten CBTC since there always delays with mergers at East 180 Street, South of Jackson Ave, and 149 Street-Grand Concourse!

[@MysticTransit]

CBTC wouldn't fully end the delays at 180 and 149 St. E 180 is difficult to solve, although, I have a plan for it. 149 St can be resolved with less of a sharp curve.

[@tombarzey7964]

@@MysticTransit ok, what would be the plan for E 180 St? Unfortunately, there’s still the problem south of Jackson Ave.

[@qjtvaddict]

@@tombarzey7964 separate the drye ave line add a new express track to either the old New York westchester and Morris point ROW or a Boston rd 3 track line with all dyre ave trains going express on the new track and the existing line then at Jackson a separate line for the express trains to go to 2nd ave or become a new crosstown in manhattan then a new line of division B ect

[@qjtvaddict]

@@MysticTransit or deinterlining with all Lexington express trains on the Jerome and all 7th ave express trains to Bronx 148& 145 Lenox should just be decommissioned it’s a worthless stub that can be served by better M102 service let’s not mention the cursed M7

[@tombarzey7964]

@@qjtvaddict strangely enough after doing research, that was one of the 2 original plan many years ago. From what I understand, the Dyre Ave and Pelham lines were supposed to operate under Second Ave. It never went through bc WWIi broke out. What u stated is a good plan, but I doubt if MTA will go through with this.. In my opinion, they are more concerned with ridership in Manhattan.

[@inlovewithi]

I just want some variety. Like in the past with the Red Birds, and so many models that looked completely different than others. Inside and outside. I'm not a train guy, so like most people they don't really notice the new models.

[@bennythepenny5831]

I propose the new technology trains become Redbirds.

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

9:20 express lines make sense.

[@bornjamerican52]

You hit the nail on the button 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@CR1Creative]

Logically, the assignments of the R262 cars should go as follows: Base Order (504 cars): -5 Train: 480 cars (Displaced R142's slated to go on the 3 line ( Indirect Replacement of all R62's on the 3 line). -42nd Street Shuttle: 24 cars (direct Replacement for 24 R62A's). Option Order 1 (445 cars): -6 train: 445 cars (direct replacement for 435 R62A's, fleet expansion for expanded local and express service). -4 train: 415 cars (Displaced R142/A's slated to go on the 1 line. Indirect Replacement of all R62A's on the 1 line). The 1, 3 lines get R142/A's and the 2, 5 lines interchange between R142's and R262's This allows for a consistent fleet assignment across all IRT yards, reducing maintenance headaches.

[@CR1Creative]

Logically, the assignments of the R262's should go as follows Base Order (504 cars): - 2/5 train: 480 cars (Displaced 400 R142's to go on The 1 and 3 lines, Indirect Replacement of some R62/A's) -42nd Street Shuttle 24 cars (Direct Replacement of 24 R62A's) Option Order 1 (445 cars) -6 train: 445 cars (Direct Replacement of 435 R62A's, fleet expansion for local and express service). Option Order 2 (415 cars) 3 train: 200 cars (Indirect Replacement of the remaining R62's on the 3 line) 4 train: 215 cars (Displaced 220 R142A's to go on the 1 line) + (Indirect Replacement of remaining R62A's on the 1 line) To Wrap up (1): 200 R142's, 220 R142A's (3): 200 R142's, 215 R262's (2/5): 430 R142's and 480 R262's (4): 200 R142's, 215 R262's (6): 445 R262's

[@HesJustSteven]

The interior LEDs aren’t blue, they’re white but just a blue tinge. I feel the door LEDs should include yellow when you hear “stand clear of the closing doors”, then flash red when closing.

[@videonut1988]

The Gangway cars are gonna be 5 cars each (since the TA isn’t an all-OPTO system)

[@BrIaNMeRcY1022]

In terms of who will be manufacturing the R262's, I heard Kawasaki has expressed no interest in building them. If Alstom does place a bid, then they will likely be the ones to build them. If the pandemic not happened, we would have known by now. Since the MTA was hoping to award the R262's in January of 2021. For car assignments, the 42nd Street Shuttle will get five 6-car trans. These cars are earmarked for the (4)(5)(6) lines. With the (6) receiving cars from Option Order I. If the Base Order cars go to the (5), the (5) would then transfer its R142's to the (3). If the Base Order Cars go to the (4), it would then transfer its R142/A's to the (3). Seeing as the overall goal of the Base Order is to retire the R62 fleet. The Option Order I and II is to retire the R62A's and provide for fleet expansion.

[@MysticTransit]

I can see them going to the (4/5/6), but the (2) would also get them if the (5) does. They share a fleet.

[@BrIaNMeRcY1022]

@@MysticTransit That depends on two factors. They opt not to make the R142's CBTC-compliant or the (5) has exclusive use for those R262's. There is a reason why Lexington Avenue CBTC is on hold. CBTC is playing a major role in where newer fleets are being slotted at. It is why the Base Order R211's are going to the (A) and (C) lines. The 7th Avenue IRT and BMT Broadway Lines will be the final two Manhattan Trunk lines to receive CBTC.

[@CR1Creative]

​@@BrIaNMeRcY1022 The R262 Car Assignments should be straightforward Base order (504 cars) -5 train: 480 cars The (5) line would then transfer it's 410 R142's to the (3) line, Indirect replacement for 315 R62's). -42nd Street Shuttle: 24 cars (Direct replacement for 24 R62A's). Option order 1 (445 cars) -6 train: 445 cars Direct replacement for 435 R62A's, Fleet Expansion for expanded local and express service). Option order 2 (415 cars) -4 train: 415 cars The (4) line would then transfer it's 420 R142/A's to the (1) line, Fleet Expansion and Indirect replacement for 365 R62A's). R262's aren't going to the (1) or (3) They're going exclusively on the Lexington Avenue line because they're getting CBTC first. While the (1) and (3) gets displaced NTT's from the (4) and (5). Lexington Avenue is getting CBTC followed by 7th Avenue. So while R262's are on Lexington, the R142 and R142A's will be out getting retrofitted with CBTC technology by then the MTA is gonna place them on the (1) and (3) lines and the (6) has to get R262's in order for CBTC so priority is definitely 4, 5 and 6 and of course anything the (5) gets the (2) shares as well For some people that doesn't understand. The R142's and R142A's that are on the (4) and (5) are compatible with CBTC but they have to be retrofitted. The R142 and R142A's didn't come with the technology they're 20 years old. While those are taken away to be fitted, the R262's will replace them (and are CBTC equipped with the technology off the bat). By the time R142 and R142A's are back, the MTA would've started working on CBTC for 7th Avenue. The important thing is here is that the R262's definitely have to be on Lexington. And the 42nd Street Shuttle is getting R262's as well. Remember, in the MTA the oldest trains don't always get replaced directly with newer trains. There's a lot more to it Lexington Avenue is the Busiest line in the A Divison. That's why the MTA is trying to get the second phase of SAS to 125th street to ease congestion over to Lexington Avenue. The MTA wants All R262's on Lexington Avenue (4), (5) and (6) lines for Lexington Avenue CBTC the (1) and (3) lines will get displaced R142/A's from the (4) and (5) lines The Flushing line doesn't need R262's since the R188's are CBTC compatible with their addition of 'C' cars to make 11 car R188's Because of this there is no need to swap out the R188's for compatibility purposes because the CBTC Equipped cars are currently working with the technology The Flushing Line uses a different CBTC system compared to what's planned to be installed on the Lexington Avenue and Broadway-7th Avenue Line. As such, the R262's will be equipped with CBTC system for the Lexington Avenue and Broadway-7th Avenue Lines, so it doesn't appear that the R262's, which aren't even configured for 11-car train ops, won't be going to the (7) line.

[@CR1Creative]

The MTA has yet to award the R262 contract. I don't see them awarding the R262's till 2024. It would take about three-to-four years from the contract being awarded to passenger service. The Option Order R262's won't be exercised till the 2025-2029 Capital Plan. Credits to Brianmercy1022

[@CR1Creative]

In terms of who will be manufacturing the R262's, I heard Kawasaki has expressed no interest in building them. If Alstom does place a bid, then they will likely be the ones to build them. If the pandemic had not happened, we would have known by now. Since the MTA was hoping to award the R262's in January of 2021. For car assignments, the 42nd Street Shuttle will get five 6-car trains. These cars are earmarked for the (4)(5)(6) lines. With the (6) receiving cars from Option Order I. If the Base Order cars go to the (5), the (5) would then transfer its R142's to the (3). If the Base Order Cars go to the (4), it would then transfer its R142/A's to the (3). Seeing the overall goal of the Base Order cars is to retire the R62 fleet. The Option Order I and II is to retire the R62A's and provide fleet expansion. Would the (2) use R262's That depends on two factors. They opt not to make the R142's CBTC-compliant the (5) has exclusive use for those R262's. There is a reason why Lexington CBTC is on hold. CBTC is playing a major role in where newer fleets are being slotted at. It is why the Base Order R211A's are going to the (A) and (C) lines. The 7th Avenue IRT and BMT Broadway Lines will be the final two Manhattan Trunk lines to receive CBTC.

[@survolte5486]

All R262s should have a gangway, The IRT is a fairly busy company apart of the MTA, and Flushing and Lexington are busy at rush hour and many people complain so they should get the R262 first before any other line

[@MysticTransit]

Flushing should not get R262's. They already have R188's. That is a waste of cars.

[@nyctransitrailfan]

@@MysticTransit I mean the 7 line does get crowded during rush hours, It would be great for an open gangway featured subway car to run on the flushing line

[@Ashes449]

The Lexington avenue line is getting the R262s according to the MTA. The R142s will go to the 1&3 since they never ever had a chance to use NTTs. Same goes for the B&D since they're getting the R211s from the first option order for the CBTC on the 6th ave line. The Broadway, second ave, and coney island will also get the R211s for the CBTC, though it will happen by 2029-2030

[@cliffpadilla5871]

I'm sick and tired of the mask reminder announcements.

[@evan22303]

Many of us are. They will be obsolete soon though. The pandemic is almost over.

[@blue9multimediagroup]

@@evan22303 in what country? Not the US.

[@transitcaptain]

Even though I’ll be a young adult when I see these trains in service I’m still excited to see them

[@CR1Creative]

​​​​R262's car assignments It was my impression that all of Lexington Avenue was getting CBTC plus the possiblity to convert R142's and R142A's for CBTC. Above thise two factors, I Believe, Determine where the R262's are going Base Order (504 cars): -5 train: 480 cars (displaced 400 R142's slated to go on the 3 line, indirect replacement for all R62's on the 3 line) 42nd Street Shuttle: 24 cars (direct replacement all R62A's) Option Order 1 (445 cars) -6 train: 445 cars (direct replacement for all R62A's, fleet expansion for local and express service) Option Order 2 (415 cars) -4 train: 415 cars (displaced 200 R142's and 220 R142A's slated to go on the 1 line, indirect replacement for all R62A's currently on the 1 line) The Flushing line doesn't need the R262's Because the R188's are CBTC compatible because of this there is no need to swap out the R188's for compatibility purposes because the CBTC Equipped cars are currently working with the technology keep in mind that the R188's were also specially designed for the 7 line with their addition of a 'C' car to make the 11th car of the train by the looks of it the Flushing line is keeping all of its R188 cars

[@EagleEyePGB]

While six car R-262 sets are certainly destined for the 42nd Street shuttle, it is possible that they could also be used on the 7 as part of an 11 car consist. I agree that it's not necessary to have them on the 7, as the current equipment on the line is fine, but it is a possibility. I would be curious to know how many six car sets are being ordered.

[@samuelitooooo]

We're getting just 24 R262s for the shuttle. Four 6-car trains. That's also how many R62As they have on hand for the shuttle today. So it's exactly enough. And also why I strongly doubt they'll be seen on the 7. A large reason is that they'll have to wind through the subway system with a connection to the lettered lines so they can reach Queensboro Plaza. They'll also have to take 5-car sets to make the 11-car trains. And to cover for the removed sets, they might also have to send R188s the same way. In short this makes it more difficult than it's worth IMO lol

[@CR1Creative]

​​​@@samuelitooooo The Flushing line doesn't need the R262's Because the R188's are CBTC compatible with an addition with 'C' car set which were those 'C' cars were once R142A cars paired up with a 5 car consist and paired up with a 6 car consist to make 11 car R188's because of this there is no need to swap out the R188's for compatibility Purposes because the CBTC Equipped cars are currently working with the technology not to mention transferring the R262's and swapping out the R188's can be quite a mess plus you're going to have to pair up two 5-car consists and pair up an extra car to make 11-car R262's by the looks of it the Flushing line is keeping all of it's R188 cars for roughly around 20-25 years

[@Dezlite]

4:44 Im sure the LEDS are white, it uses three colors to make white: red green and blue all at once, those three colors make white. However, because it is a mixture of thosee three colors, that's probably why it appears to be blue.

[@blue9multimediagroup]

It's white because it uses a diluted blue.

[@MrKongDavidNow]

Gonna miss the R62s. Grew up with them, used them almost every day, when I was young I thought they would never go 😢

[@CR1Creative]

R62 aren't that bad on the 7th ave line but I'm sick and tired of the R62As on the pelham line When R262s/As come into service everyone definitely gonna ride it and expect alot of KZbin videos on the review of the new R262s/As when they start testing and entering in service

[@MrKongDavidNow]

@@CR1Creative agreed. Feel like R62s belong on the 7th ave

[@CR1Creative]

Also all R262s will have USB charging ports and the R262s will have WIFI when it's entering and in the tunnels

[@MrKongDavidNow]

@@CR1Creative still doesn’t change R62 nostalgia

[@CR1Creative]

@@MrKongDavidNow yeah I know man I will miss the R62s on the 7th ave line I missed the R62As on the flushing line but they had to go for CBTC :(

[@CMPMGMT]

How do you feel the open gangways will work on some of the more tighter turns in the system? 110 on the Lenox Avenue line and park row curve are some that come to mind.

[@Lodai974]

we (Paris) use metro with open gangway on 30 m radius of curvature of the turns ,it's possible.

[@michaelmorales1475]

Can't wait to see The First Mockup or The Actual Train IRL. I wonder if they changed the Design since they first showed that Concept since it has Cuomo Colors & Andrew Gropo has obviously left.

[@MysticTransit]

Tbh, idk. I call those colors the Empire Livery, and technically, it is the colors of the NYS Flag, so I doubt they would've changed it. Also, I don't think we'll see a mockup for this since it's going to be pretty similar to the R211's.

[@michaelmorales1475]

@@MysticTransit True, I can't wait to see these in Person.

[@scytheyt4051]

@@MysticTransit We might see another mock up either in 2nd Av or 34 Hudson

[@m3lgar582]

I want Stadler to have a chance at building subway trains for NYC specifically for the R262. They recently got an order for MARTA and the trains look amazing

[@georgobergfell]

Stadler won a ton of new light rail and subway orders here in Europe in the last two years. They are just the best.

[@blue9multimediagroup]

Ew

[@samuelitooooo]

Stadler has their own way of doing things. They particularly specialize in dedicated platforms for regional rail. I'll be extremely surprised if they step up to build for MTA (or MBTA or CTA which also use stainless steel metro cars with particular specs). But hey here they are for MARTA like you said, with a custom design too, so at this rate anything's possible!

[@TheProJacob]

looks like a r142 and r211 combined

[@MysticTransit]

Yeah, but somehow, it works, and actually looks good.

[@villavine10]

Kawasaki and Siemens are my favorite train companies, if they build something I really wouldn’t care because it’ll come out good anyways.

[@NiSt1975]

I'm not familiar with they train type numbers but have to say for a long time the the 2,5 6 lines had the last train type in your video. It seems that they went backwards with the type of car. What I'd love to see in having the same type of car built for the whole system if that's even possible. I think that there needs to be one type of car that can easily be modified from open gangway to closed at the train yards. I completely agree that they could add so much more info to the led screens. Now as far as color of led screens that should be able to be customized at command and control centers or a universal type of update once the train enters maintenance. Even better yet create a system to where its easily updated by wifi. It is time the Mta stops passing train types off to other lines like they are step children.

[@Jane-qh2yd]

You probably won't see this, but now that the R211 have been tested with public rides, I already have numerous complaints about them. The windows are just too small, and it feels as if seating space was distributed horribly. I'm not sure if I actually like having the station screens placed right above the door, as it makes it harder for people to see it while sitting or in the middle of the car. (though it does make it easier for someone entering the train to see it). Personally I believe that the R188 are still the best designed train used by the MTA by an astronomical shot. They are a perfect balance of seating distribution, standing space, window size, door size and info panel placements. I think that taking that design philosophy with slightly better technology IS the way. the R211 really feel like a design step back

[@jasonjohnson892]

Remember people this is for NYC not for London or Tokyo! Do you think they build them just for comfort, no. They build them for longevity as well as vandalism. They as well as I know that new yorkers do not respect the equipment they ride on. The london underground equipment would be burnt or smash to pieces by the riders. This is only reason why the r32s lasted for over 50 years and still look in relatively great shape.

[@IsrealiAvia]

another donation here, i think the 7 should get the r262 and r188 can convert back to r142a and run them on the 6 line, this is to keep city from draining the money to finish the 2nd avenue line, but whats your opinion about replacing the r188s?

[@MysticTransit]

Sorry I hadn't seen this earlier. I don't think its a good idea to replace the R188s and re-convert them back into R142As. It would cost way to much to carry out such a plan, for little to no benefit.

[@CR1Creative]

Since Lexington Avenue is getting CBTC before 7th avenue all R262's are going to Lexington Avenue 4, 5 and 6 lines and moving all R142/A's to 7th Avenue 1, 3 lines and the 2 will be getting some R262's because it shares a fleet with the 5 plus we don't even know if R142/A's are getting retrofitted for CBTC Yet

[@r160fan7]

Maybe there are better things the MTA can consider such as placing the R142's on the 1 and 3 lines since there are 880 cars (6301-7125) in the R142 fleet. This means when the 2 and 5 get R262's, then we can consider splitting up those R142's so that the 1 and 3 lines can each get 440 cars. Another thing considered is the 6 getting R142/A's or R262's. If its the R142/A, welp at least the R142/A wont get tortured by Jerome yard anymore but if R262's go on the 6, then the R142/A's will still run on the 4 line but if the R262's ran on the 4, then they would be dirty within a month. Thankfully, Jerome is beginning to take care of their R142/A's by giving them their mid-life overhauls. Also I don't think the 1 line would take care of their R142's cuz im pretty sure yall know how dirty most of their R62A's are.

[@theestallion818]

Those use to be on the 4 line!!!!!!

[@gregblair5139]

Open gangways are used in the Santiago de Chile subway.

[@sebastianagudelo3683]

Are these the cars that are going to be ordered in the capital plan 2020-2024? Also how many R-211s are in order and what’s the timeline to receive them?

[@vuthannaso6363]

i want kawasaki becose the trainse they billd a nice and ez too look at thev LCDs!

[@frank.l181]

Definitely Kawasaki. L.I.RR M9's are flawless performance!

[@chazpadilla6748]

1 trains receive complete 100% r142 6 trains receive mixed combination consisting of r142 r142a and r262 4 trains receive a mixture of r142a and r262 both 2 and 5 trains will receive fully 100% r262. Last But Not Least, 3 Trains Should Receive A Combined Fleet Consisting R142 and R262 Subway Cars Altogether. The IRT/42nd Street Shuttle(S) Can Have R62 R62A R142 R142A R188 and R262 Subway Train Cars Altogether. 7 Trains Are Good With Their Unique R188 Subway Train Cars Consists Their Special "C" Cars Having 11 or 12 R188 Subway Cars Altogether. 7 Train is a Flushing Line Consisting Of R188; Which Makes The 7 Line One in a Million(1 In A 1,000,000)

[@CR1Creative]

R262 Car Assignments Base order (504 cars) The Base order of 504 cars will go to the 5 and the 42nd Street Shuttle, with the 5 getting 480 cars to displace 400 R142's over to the 3 line retiring their R62's while the 2 will be getting some R262's Because it shares a fleet with the 5 while the 42nd Street Shuttle is obviously getting the Base order of 24 cars with 6-car sets retiring their R62A's Option order 1 (445 cars) The 1sr Option order of 445 cars will go to the 6 line to support CBTC on Lexington Avenue and for service expansion retiring all of their R62A's Option order 2 (415 cars) The 2nd Option order of 415 cars will go to the 4 line displacing All 200 R142's and 220 R142A's to the 1 line retiring all of their R62A's The Flushing line doesn't need R262's since the R188's are CBTC compatible and is specially designed for the 7 line with their addition of 'C' cars to make the 11th car of the R188's because of this there is no need to swap out the R188's for compatibility purposes because the CBTC Equipped cars are currently working with the technology The R262's are being ordered to fully support CBTC on Lexington Avenue and with the R142/A's getting retrofitted with CBTC With Rogers Junction De-interlining two new switches will be added to send 2 and 3 Trains to Flatbush and 4 Trains to New Lots via Eastern Parkway Express and sending 5 Trains to Crown Hts Utica avenue Via Eastern Parkway Local with this Both the 2 and 5 will no longer share a fleet so that the R262's will be exclusively for Lexington Avenue service and R142/A's will be exclusively for Broadway 7th Avenue Service

[@qjtvaddict]

They need to be unleashed on the Lexington lines and the R142 shifted to (1) with express trains getting R262 then automate the entire A division.

[@thomascleveland6664]

All new electric motors should switch to an electric generator during breaking. That technology has been available since the early 1970 and significantly reduces electricity usage. Already successfully implemented on Tesla cars.

[@blue9multimediagroup]

Car tech is not the same as train tech

[@samuelitooooo]

MTA has had this braking technology since 2000 lol. All NTTs have regenerative braking! I believe railroad equipment starting with the M7s also have this.

[@gamereric2189]

I keep hearing people saying open gangway can't be done with sharp curves, Yada Yada Yada, but does the subway curve as sharply as the MBTA's green line? If we can do it, you guys can lmao Also, I think they should add an option order to add R262's to the 7; it could really use the open gangway capacity over the R188's, if it's reasonably possible.

[@MysticTransit]

Exactly. There have been a lot of excuses over the Gangways. Crime, Curves, and... Smells, are among the most used. Also, Idk about R262's to the (7), but if there are enough spare cars, I don't see why not.

[@gamereric2189]

@@MysticTransit as far as smells and homeless people go, these aren't fully open gangway... There's nothing stopping showtime people and whatever people from walking between cars now, so it's not like open gangway is letting them pass easier or whatever, and if there's a weird smell just move to the next 5 car set!

[@nyctransitrailfan]

As a 7 line rider, I would love to see R262’s running on the flushing line

[@blue9multimediagroup]

Green line isn't a heavy rail. It's light rail so the standards are different.

[@gamereric2189]

@@blue9multimediagroup Yes, but it's an example of a decently ling train making curves around really sharp corners. Trust me, we can make it work.

[@spyfoxes_]

I don't want them to make R262 and R211. I like the subway with R62's and R46 cars.

[@SouthJerseyTransitFan]

Some

[@skydiamond8705]

The R626 will go to 1/3/6 since their already have R62/A but you might be right they where testing some R142/A on the 3 and 1 lines

[@pandagamer5950]

When I was young and I used to go to Chinese school and always see teenagers standing in between 6 train cars😮, and that’s another reason why open gangways are good on r262s😅

[@xique1955]

After the R62/R62A retires, the R262 would go to the (2)(4)(5). R142s would go on the 239 St R142s would go to the (1), Jerome R142s would go to the (3), & Jerome R142As on the (6)

[@2dtech541]

So what you are saying basically is (2)(5) r142s,r262s 1:Full r142s 3 train r142s 6:r142s and r142As Because i don't think r142As will run by themselves if the r142As run on another line there is most likely and other tain going to run with the r142As

[@CR1Creative]

R262 car assignments CBTC is a major factor that can cause changes to the car assignments since Lexington Avenue is set to get CBTC Before 7th avenue plus we dont even know if R142's and R142A's will get converted for CBTC Above those two factors I Determine where the R262's are going Base Order (504 cars) 480 cars in the Base Order are going to the (5) meanwhile the (2) will also be getting some R262's because it shares a fleet with the (5) and they can interchange between R142's and R262's meanwhile 400 R142's will be displaced to the (3) line to retire all of their R62's It is obvious that the Base Order of 24 cars with 6-car sets is going to the 42nd Street Shuttle to retire all of their R62A's Option Order 1 (445 cars) The 1st Option Order of 445 cars are going to the (6) to support CBTC on Lexington Avenue to retire all of their R62A's Option Order 2 (415 cars) The 2nd Option Order of 415 cars are going to the (4) meanwhile 200 R142's and 220 R142A"s will be displaced to the (1) line to retire all of their R62A's As for the Flushing line it Doesn't need R262's since the R188's are CBTC compatible with their addition of 'C' cars to make 11 car R188's Because of this there is no need to swap out the R188's for compatibility purposes because the CBTC Equipped R188's are currently working with the technology

[@jeffjeannette9364]

The open gangway idea makes since, as long as the ac is ALWAYS working lol. I like being able to switch to a cooler car when needed. I guess the systems will have to stay independent, so they can swap cars out. I guess we'll have to damn well like what they choose, or take the bus huh?😆

[@itechcircle9410]

In the case of broken ac it would allow cool air from working ac cars to pick up the slack and circulate into the one with broken ac I would imagine.

[@ETBX1]

Recall, with the 62's, they did not favor the expresses and/or Lexington get the new cars first pattern. The 62 era favored the 1 and 4 (so the 4 is the only one that always had dibs on every new order), with handed down remainder to the the 6 (half) and 3. (2, 5 and 7 saw nothing but redbirds, initially). So it's possible the 262's could go directly to the 1, 3 and 6 (with the 4 getting its cut, of course, especially if they do try open gangway).

[@sanitman1488]

The MTA spends millions upon millions on new rolling stock but spend nearly nothing on infrastructure that is deteriorating at a alarming pace. Many of the stations on the 'B' division for example are absolutely disgusting and 3rd world mentality !

[@qjtvaddict]

The USA and the 3rd world are run by neoliberals

[@Ibrahimthegoat8848]

I personally think the 1 train should also get R262s, because they’ve had the R62as from the start of their careers and have taken very good care of them. And The 1 line receives more ridership than the 3 train so it would make more sense to send them to the 1 as well. If Jerome can’t take care of their 142s then why send the newest trains there. 240th street yard has better maintenance of their cars. But like you said it’s not the official assignments so it’s not a big deal. Nice vid by the way

[@markgriffin2087]

240yard refuses to take any other car

[@Ibrahimthegoat8848]

@@markgriffin2087 wha do you mean

[@markgriffin2087]

@@Ibrahimthegoat8848 I mean that they don’t accept cars that are not R62A they barley take a R62

[@Ibrahimthegoat8848]

@@markgriffin2087 ohhhh I get what your saying

[@shawngibson3310]

I don’t know about y’all but I want something new in terms of train announcements. Like the mta should incorporate metro north/lirr announcements on the NYC Sunday. Maybe something as an example could be like… “ This is the 2 train to Brooklyn. The next station is Times Square - 42nd street.” Maybe for express trains where the next stop is far away then maybe during the travel the train announcement could say “The next station is Times Square - 42nd Street. Transfer will be available to the 1,3,7,A,B,C,D,E,F,M,N,Q,R, W trains and the Shuttle to Grand Central. Connections will be available to the Port Authority Bus Terminal”. So that way when the train is pulling into the station the announcement can just say the station name and that’s it

[@nyctransitrailfan]

It doesn’t make sense tho, I think the current announcements are fine

[@relxril]

Ngl The R62/R62A are my favorite subway cars

[@MysticTransit]

Same.

[@TheLace]

Ok I’d prefer to see Kawasaki, Siemens and maybe even Alstom build the next Gen R-262s.

[@CR1Creative]

R262 car assignments CBTC is a major factor that can cause changes to the car assignments and with the possibility of converting all R142/A's for CBTC above those two factors I Determine where the R262's are going Base Order (504 cars) 480 cars in the Base Order will be assigned to the (5) meanwhile the (2) will also be getting some R262's because it shares a fleet with the (5) meanwhile R142's from the (5) will be displaced to the (3) line to retire all R62's The 42nd Street Shuttle is obviously getting the Base order of 24 cars but will come in 6-car sets to retire all R62A's Option Order 1 (445 cars) The 1st Option Order of 445 cars will be assigned to the 6 to support CBTC on Lexington Avenue This will retire all R62A's Option Order 2 (415 cars) The 2nd Option Order of 415 cars will be assigned to the (4) meanwhile R142/A's from the (4) will be displaced to the (1) line to retire all R62A's To Wrap Up (1): 200 R142's 220 R142A's (2/5): Interchanges Between 430 R142's and 480 R262's (3): 400 R142's (4): 415 R262's (6): 445 R262's 42nd Street Shuttle: 24 R262's in 6-car sets As ForThe Flushing line it Doesn't need R262's since the R188's are CBTC compatible with their addition of 'C' cars to make 11 Car R188's Because of this there is no need to swap out the R188's for compatibility purposes because the CBTC Equipped R188's are currently working with the technology

[@williamerazo3921]

Front facia of this train should be red and black like the old red birds

[@QwertyScream]

I think the R262 will go to the 2, 4, 5 lines and the R142 and R142A will go to the 1, 3, 6 lines

[@void_official404]

Would be petty nice to see R142 and R142A cars on the 1 line, I still love the R62A cars, tho So it would be nice to see both :) I love having a variety of different styled Subway cars :) I feel like the R62A is still reliable all they need is cleaning overhauling repairs an boom good as new :D

[@CR1Creative]

We don't have enough R188 cars to operate train levels seen in the 60s and 70s. This could depend on the R262 contract to replace R62 and R62A cars. The order is for 1500 cars. Approximately 30 cars would be used for the 42nd Street Shuttle in 6-car consists. That leaves 1470 cars. Assuming that the (2), (4) and (5) get them, and they get around 450 cars each, that does mean that we can see 120 cars go to other lines. Some R142/A cars would then be converted to CBTC ops for the Flushing Line. At least that's what I'm hoping. I will make some pretend roster soon. Here is what I'm suggesting in more detail. Assuming the R262 order is still 1,500 cars: (1): R142 (400 cars; 40 trains) (2): R262 (450 cars; 45 cars; interchanged with the 5) (3): R142 and R262 (170 and 120 cars respectively for 290 cars; 29 trains) (4): R262 (450 cars; 45 trains) (5): R262 (450 cars; 45 trains interchanged with the 2) (6) and : R142 (460 trains) (7) and : R188 and R142A (506 and 220 cars respectively for 726 cars; 66 trains each in 11-car consists) (S) 42nd Street Shuttle: R262 (30 cars; 6 6-car trains).

[@Swat_-pv1wb]

Same I live in Montreal and the azur train are so good with the open gangways

[@Anthony-ls6st]

6:42 This is so true like, like what is the reason for 3 different people to announce 1 Stop. Ex: Grand central

[@mrkeyz321]

They said on the news that they will be testing the new R211 for a month during regular service on the A line only! If all goes well, they'll add on more R211s on different lines! Welp I guess the A train passed it's test for other lines to share in such glory!!! Although this video may be a video about the new R262s, it still confirms the IND A train did its job! Let's see what happens with the new IRTs!!! Thanks A train!!! And I don't mean the wrestler lol😅😅

[@camera9024]

R262: Time to take the trash(R62) out!

[@albertfigueroa5347]

To an old school persons prospective I think the system was just fine the way it was improvements is awesome don't get me wrong but it just causes a lot of confusion and to take note Fare hikes lol. The more technology they put the more we have to pay for it fare hike wise.

[@qjtvaddict]

Don’t care most of the world has technology there’s no justification for staying stagnant that’s why the NYC subway has the worst subway stations on earth