THE RAID WILL FAIL!!! : Poorly Aged One Piece Theories (Pt 2)

Today I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill. Hope I don't end up regretting it!
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[@puffthepirate1528]

Here's a link to a small follow up to the video and its comments on the side Channel. In case your curious. Thanks again for watching! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z33WYqyBi5iXhNU

[@flyingcapsicum]

The raid failing was a solid theory in the early part of the arc, but as time wore on it became clearer and clearer that the story wasn't going that way. Morj doubling down the way he did turned it into somewhat of a cult.

[@milzhere]

Exactly, anyone I saw pushing this theory after the tobi roppo started going down just didn't seem to understand the narrative at that point. Plus, there's no way oda wanted to stay in wano for 5+ years

[@tesytes318]

​@Hmm naw it's not even the time. Yall do realize that wano is based off where he's from right ? Like maybe you'll have a point if he himself didn't still live there. Yall act like the starwhats just stand in places after they partied . Only once did they stay afterwards and that's after the merry dies.

[@milzhere]

@tesytes318 Yes, i realize that, lol. Sure, but he was already in wano for 4+ years, already 1/5th of the story, and Kaido/Wano aren't relevant enough to the endgame to warrant staying there for a QUARTER of the story. If the raid failed that'd be another year at least. And you can tell with how wild the egghead stuff is that Oda wanted to tie a bow around wano and start the endgame. Oda's been writing/drawing OP for over 20 years, time is absolutely a factor.

[@tesytes318]

@@milzhere yes and no . When fans heard that one piece is in the endgame how many act like it's ending next year ? Quite a bit of them act as if it's about to end any chapter now . But yes wano took years in a way like it's not like game of thornes were people have been waiting 10 plus years just for the second to last book . Just like dressrosa, the time it took doesn't matter because you can read it all within a day or 2 now . I think a saying It was rushed which you didn't but tends to be the thoughts of many who brings up time is crazy to me like once again it's like thinking one piece is going to end any moment and seeing as how it isn't saying that it was rushed sounds crazy Oda hasn't said this nor anyone who works with him .

[@milzhere]

@tesytes318 No, the time issue is just...Oda's getting older, he has astigmatism, he's been grinding the mangaka schedule for over 20 years, he wants to finish the series while he still can. Obviously he's not rushing it, but anyone could tell that Wano wasn't going to be a 6+ year arc by the writing on the wall. We ARE in the endgame, this is the "final saga" whether that be 3 years or 7.

[@slimkid206]

The only reason why the raid didn't fail is because king revealed that he was a minority

[@jettehoe]

Real

[@viper_exe_]

REAL

[@DigmadFR]

R E A L

[@NylonEpoxy]

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[@KazzyOn]

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[@stuffyworld10]

Morj's raid failure theory is the ultimate showing of how theorizing can ruin a series for the theorist. You get so set on a certain idea that YOU made with no proof from the author, and then when the author doesn't follow the story you thought they should've, you're ultimately disappointed even if the path the story went is as good if not better. You can't judge something based off of what you wanted it to be, only off of what it is

[@courage1363]

I totally agree since RIGHT NOW, everyone wanted Carrot to Join Luffys crew and 1 KZbinr named Vagabond Kana a Mr. Morj 2.0 because he is wanted Carrot to join when HE constantly mentioned that in the end of the Wano arc we seen Dogstorm and Cat Viper talked to Carrot to be the next ruler of Zou and the Mink tribe when they are both retired to be retainers again to the Kozuki clan and everyone wanted to see if Carrot wants to be a ruler or not.

[@LightBringer666]

yep, the mistake i notice a lot of theorists make is that they always assume stuff they've theorized (mostly with good evidence) is true and don't throw that assumption away until a direct proof from a new chapter shows that their idea is wrong. there's a balance between theorizing and setting expectations. i like to theorize week-to-week as i read the new chapter and look back and prior ones for hidden lines. when oda defies (or should i say, surpasses) my expectations, i'm usually happy and excited because he's become such a genius at throwing red herrings and false-red herrings (an obvious red-herring that you realize is a red herring but becomes relevant to another plot point later down the line, or it's a double-trick where it turns out to be the right guess after all once more information comes to the limelight. honestly you'll notice this issue happening with theorists who have gotten things right in the past, they become super confident about their future predictions and theories. i should point out i'm just as guilty of this, otherwise i wouldn't even mention it. i've seen theorists/youtubers (the hidden island being a great example) who don't go down that rabbit hole because they're generally open minded to others' ideas and tend to be looking for the truth rather than to be right

[@griswo3272]

yeah if mr morj were a bitch but he isnt, he accepted he was wrong and moved on, he still does fire content, he is not like drizzt who cant go over his own headcanon

[@frenchynoob]

I never believed in the Raid will Fail theory, but in hindsight, Wano was so mid that it failing wouldve honestly been more interesting, no matter how dumb it wouldve been

[@mrbubbles6468]

@@frenchynoobI mean, that’s why Morj assumed the Raid would fail. Because there was 0 tension and stakes. And the antagonists were not really a threat. Morj assumed something big had to happen to change that.

[@that70sjunkie]

Small correction: we do actually (kind of) get an explanation why the trees and animals grow so big in Skypiea, in Chapter 253 Robin theorizes that it's because of the Sea and Island clouds enhancing the growth.

[@papaphatz4144]

Til this day, Morj is still waiting for the raid to fail

[@drivforc7867]

now he wants the siege to succeed

[@sleepymilk6861]

I love how everyone who believed the raid would fail probably popped off at chapter 1043, only to finish said chapter and go "ahh man, guess we were wrong". (edit) I think The whole reason why Oda probably depicted Kaidos defeat as less eye catching was because Kaidos defeat was supposed to be insignificant. Kaido wanted to die a legendary death like Roger or Edward, He wanted to leave behind a legacy and or start a new generation. But Kaido lost, he was alone when he did, and no one got to see his last words or his death (if he is dead that is). That's the significance of his defeat. He failed to reach Roger and White beard because he was to caught up trying to find a place to die, rather than leaving behind something for others to remember him by.

[@mrbubbles6468]

Kaido is clearly set up to come back. Luffy does not kill enemies. And the entire next generation of Wano children are making large plays about the battle. If Kaido is dead, he got what he wanted. Oden even told Kaido in essence ‘if that’s what you want, wait 20 years’

[@juiuice]

I'm subbed to morj, and while I thought he made a solid case for the raid failing, it made me realize that at the end of the day-and of course you know this isn't limited to just morj-it's ultimately Oda's decision to take his story in whatever direction he wants, regardless of how plausible your theory apparently sounds.

[@MSTavares]

True, though Morj, and I'm sure other yourtubers too, but Morj is the only one I'm subbed and I'm aware was doing this during Wano, kept pushing this idea of "it's either my way or Oda is a bad writer", and it just became painful to see, he was constantly saying the same thing everytime, even when others called him out for being wrong or threw the raid failing as a joke he came trying to defend a position where he himself had already admitted that the theory was a joke, even commenting on how is channel was and is known for the raid failing meme. Now he is mostly focus on trashing character for not fitting his narrative of One Piece

[@juiuice]

@@MSTavares Yeah. Again I think this ultimately boiled down to "direction" he wanted the story to go. Another example I think better illustrate this was his video saying Kid was gonna do a Davy Back Fight against Shanks. Thought that was an awesome idea, agreed it'd be cool to see that concept reincorporated again. And then wouldn't you know it, that is not at all what went down between Kid and Shanks to say the least, still cool tho lol. Also idk about trashing characters that doesn't fit his narrative. The only thing that comes to mind is just Dragon over the whole news paper thing on Sabo. I personally eased up on it when it was finally shown the alleged photo of Sabo doing it, idk.

[@MSTavares]

@@juiuice I agree. The Davy Back Fight between Shanks and Kid. That never made sense besides being a cool idea to see... I never got why that came out, I understand the importance of the Davy Back Fight to the story, and I get why fans want to see it back, but I never got why now almost every major character that is a pirate will have a Davy Back Fight, I've seen Buggy having one with Luffy, there's the one with Kid and Shanks, I've seen Kid, Shanks and Luffy, and Blackbeard and Luffy, Buggy and Shanks. Maybe I could have used a different word instead of narrative, but seeing how Morj kept pushing the raid failing or even the Yamato for nakama for example, he pushes those ideas like a narrative, Me saying him trashing on characters not fitting his narrative was about his recent video about Kid on how he (Kid) is the worst Worst Generation monster trio member (the trio here being Kid, Law and Luffy), though I think here his narrative of wanting Kid to be something he isn't, is shared by quite a lot of fans, he (Morj) is the most outspoken.

[@juiuice]

​@@MSTavares Oh yeah he did make a video trashing Kid. I agree with you, like the function of Kid's character as a rival wouldn't necessarily be the same as Vegeta or Sasuke The whole video of his could age badly, especially when I think he should've done it in a more conclusive point in the story for Kid and I think Oda's still cooking on him (tbh a lot of his takes/videos have aged badly, where he's actually talking about Kid in a good light, where he would get the other Worst Generation to join him after Wano and move on up as a pirate. Again, a cool idea, but didn't happen where it was) The video brought it up, too, but I love seeing the fan version of Gear 5 versus how it ended up looking. Just felt more inspired in comparison. And that's pretty much this situation to a smaller extent; where's Oda going with him IDK

[@MSTavares]

@@juiuice I think Kid job served to push Luffy further his limits, since Kid was intruduced. In Sabaody it was to show Luffy there was a pirate that at that point was stronger than him (Luffy) that was causeing more trouble, and when Luffy met him, they started testing each others will with who would be king of the pirates, (I know Law was there as well, but he isn't relevant here to my point), and in Wano, when they were at the Udon Prison it was the same thing, both testing and pushing each to see who was stronger, and during the fight with Kaido, before Kid and Law went inside the dome to fight Big Mom, it was the same thing. That was always my take on Kid. I think the video will age badly as well, mostly due to what Oda will show us from, both Shanks, and Kid in the future, what I mean here is, the more Oda explores Shanks character in the future, which we can agree that will happen, Kid's defeat agains Shanks will be viewed in a different light, and depending on how Kid's crew and Kid proceed now, we might get to see more of what Kid and his crew are capable of, when they aren't "fighting" a Shanks. I don't what Oda is thinking to do with Kid next, my bet is on Kid coming back with a small crew of Killer, Heat, Wire, and maybe another 2 or 3 crew members, and (Oda) have them, train on some haki, to fight against some strong Vice Admirals, and other high ranking marines (not counting admirals, Garp and Maybe Sengoku) during the final battle/war that we all know will happen

[@machina5]

My ONLY gripe with Wano was Kinnemon not dying when he got clubbed by Kaido, and the weird "Law put me back together weird" explanation. It was the perfect place for his character to go out and add some real emotion to Wano but it ended up just being a fart joke.

[@robertofratello5203]

I think that Oda wanted a joyous end party for Wano and that came at the cost of avoiding major deaths that would have ruined the mood of it

[@machina5]

@@robertofratello5203 Imo it would've been just as happy, but bittersweet as well. The final war of One Piece will have many more deaths than the war for Onigashima, I'm sure, but the end of the series will be very happy.

[@tesytes318]

I can get that however, the strawhats put kin back together and we see them put him together and take him apart again and again. His legs were on luffy . His face was changed hella times and with that being said it didn't bother me all that much in fact I had been thinking that laws power probably last forever like a real surgery seeing as he gave the navy the 100 hearts and they aren't going to get those back ever if law dies. But I can understand not liking it nevertheless.

[@machina5]

@@tesytes318 I didn't say it didn't make sense, I'm saying it's a lame copout when his character arc was totally fulfilled in a satisfying and emotional way.

[@mitchellconner6928]

Pell 2.0

[@elijahbaley211]

people really wanted momo, kinemon and everyone to lose their country, for the scabbard to have waited 20years for nothing

[@Nedoiko]

We all have our wrong theories, I remember when the Raid Will Fail theory became massive, I was spreading among my friends the Onigashima Will Bounce theory, just theorizing that Luffy's awakening would make onigashima harmlessly bounce off the capital

[@spideyv5750]

That was a really good theory haha, it would have been great

[@icewhallowcome6689]

man, that'd be dope as hell

[@freepopcornmaker]

The best theories (no matter how smart or stupid) should be fun and interesting, allowing the community to add on and challenge it. My favourite OP theory is the Croco-Mom theory. I’m 90% sure it’s wrong but it’s hilarious to think about😂

[@mait4051]

Luffy’s mom is Dadan 😤

[@70Lu07]

Still better Than Imu-samama

[@HamazuraGOD]

I'll die on the crocomom hill

[@crocoboi7936]

As crocodile himself that theory is um definitely wrong!

[@HamazuraGOD]

@@crocoboi7936 Nice try crocomom!

[@mythicnoble]

How could you not be emotionally invested in Wano? I've never felt more hate for a One Piece character than when Kanjuro betrays the alliance.

[@MrPsych77]

When I saw what Orochi did to the people with smiles I couldn't want a character more dead

[@tikhonbatkovic]

The only OP theory I believe in religiously is the Crocomom theory.

[@moonlight2870]

I absolutely doubt that will happen

[@That_One_Guy...]

I don't know why people find Crocomom theory funny

[@Blastopia]

Croc is probably a trans but not Luffys mom

[@Frozen_Death_Knight]

As an outsider who only reads the manga nowadays and does not actively engage in fan theories that much, I just never understood why people thought that the Wano raid was going to end up in failure. Wano was already a behemoth of an arc to start with, so having the battle end up in failure would have added literal years to an already bloated storyline. It is obvious that One Piece is in the end game now after having spent years of building up all the major players and the Strawhats after the actual failures that were Sabaody Archipelago and the Summit War of Marineford. Luffy already spent 2+ years just to prepare for the challenges that were ahead while being tutored by one of the strongest beings in existence, Raileigh. If they had failed at Wano, Luffy simply wouldn't have had a shot at becoming Pirate King. Period. Oda is a very traditional storyteller and the times he does subvert expectations he does so sparingly and with purpose. Basically every single arc in the New World has been building up to the big showdown in Wano with Whole Cake Island just being another build-up after not ending with the defeat of Big Mom. Had Wano ended in failure it would have become a massive disappointment. Morj does make some good analysis videos of One Piece, but this theory of his was practically dead in the water from the start.

[@RaonakDM]

Raid failing was such a dumb theory and would do nothing but stall the plot for no reason. The whole arc kept reiterating that this was their final chance. That the raid was the only oppotunity to kill kaido. Plus if they would have lot kaido would have tortured and killed most of the allies which would have made it even harder to kill kaido the next time.

[@Wusaruful]

XD I imagine when in lord of the rings frodo and sam went to the black gate just to turn around to go another way is stalling the plot for no reason. With this logic just give luffy the one piece who needs any story hust give us the conclusion.

[@Nr4747]

What I absolutely don't understand about Mr. Morj, who I normally really respect as a One Piece KZbinr, is why he was so upset about "Oda screwing up with Kid's easy defeat by Shanks" and how "Oda forgot how to write a proper rival". Neither is true - Kid was *never* portrayed to be on Luffy's level, with the (very short-lived) exception when we first heard he had a higher bounty in early Sabaondy. But, even then, it was established almost immediately that his bounty was only higher because he massacred civilians. Ever since then, Kid was never shown to be able to achieve what Luffy could without help from Law, another character on roughly Luffy's "level". That's not a real "rival", not sure why Morj refused to understand and accept that.

[@tillyvanilly7015]

Damn, this is such an important discussion. It happens too often now, that fans of an internet person are more invested in that person than the medium they are discussing. They tend to forget there is an independent writer behind a manga.

[@AlexT7916]

Morj made a solid theory according to the information in the early arc and just refused to change his opinion once it became apparent that wasn't the way the story was going and just continued to double down on it

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

And that was great cause it revealed that wano is trash

[@raisofahri5797]

@@tygrenvoltaris4782 sure

[@MAR10WORLD]

Was never a solid theory. Who tf thought Oda would spend 200 more chapters in Wano when he’s trying to wrap shit up. That arc would have taken 5 years to finish. Made no narrarative or practical sense

[@nomongosinthaworld]

He could’ve made the raid fail easily with the amount of chapters he had if he just pacesetter differently and focused less on irrelevant shit

[@Martin-yh7vi]

@@nomongosinthaworld The problem is that it's all head canon that Oda was planning for the raid to fail to begin with. Ya'll just sound bitter because your theory didn't happen.

[@benjaminoosterwolde9018]

This vid explains the main reason why i disengaged with one piece youtubers. Bar tekking they all are content farmers that will legitimately get upset if the story doesnt cater to them and their content farming needs. Unlike the croco nom theory or most other theories the raid will fail theory has affected tons of readers most of whom wont even be aware of it. I loved morj before he decided to go down with the ship.

[@memebrain2177]

Kuina being alive in wano theory Those were dark times indeed

[@stoneharvey1017]

I am convinced Kuina's alive, but not like on Wano. Prob just that girl who looks like her.

[@raisofahri5797]

@@stoneharvey1017 that just tashigi

[@memebrain2177]

​@@raisofahri5797and Zoro bested her Are you sure about that If kuina was indeed Alive she would have given Zoro his 2002 loss

[@Rubberman202]

The first time I ever heard of Mr. Morj is in a GrandLineReview video, where he was trying to start a "rivalry" with him. A video on GLR's other channel, "Dude in a Room" explained that the person who runs the channel, Liam, thought Morj was deliberately trying to push an outlandish theory for publicity and he wanted in on it, starting a kind of "fake rivalry" like the Nostalgia Critic and the Angry Video Game Nerd. So he included some jabs at Morj in several of his videos in the hopes that it would start something, but then he dropped in on a livestream Morj held, and he noticed that when the subject of the raid failing was brought up and Morj's demeanor changed completely. Morj seemed annoyed that people were trying to discredit or make fun of him for it, and he stood by his theory that the Onigashima raid would fail, and it's at that point Liam realized that Morj wasn't doing this for publicity and he genuinely believed the raid would fail, so he backed off. I haven't really looked into Morj's videos or saw his reaction to the raid succeeding since then.

[@ezkling4525]

I like theory videos tbh, i like seeing people's ideas and thoughts as long as its in good faith. thats why something like the resin theory is probably one of my favorites. its wrong obviously but its idea was cool (even tho G5 is better thematically and more interesting powerwise)

[@AiirxGeordan]

Can someone tell me what the result of the raid failing would be according to morj? Like I feel like knowing Luffy, he’d be either knocked unconscious and put in prison again, or dead. Luffy isn’t dying (or ig staying dead) in the story centered around him, so let’s say he’s unconscious. Luffy wakes up, Raid failed nothing changed and what, he just leaves Wano? We know Luffy doesn’t roll like that.

[@Satepin]

He expected they escape, practice and heal, reassemble and all v 1 Kaido to death

[@AiirxGeordan]

@@Satepin ain’t that what happened in the first place. Luffy got beat, got sent to udon, trained, and they all v 1 kaido.

[@brad5111]

Kaido might be a goofy character at times, with his weird drunk modes and stuff, but if he is one thing, he's ruthless. No way he would have let anybody leave alive after defeating Luffy (even if he was only knocked out). He probably would have even captured all of the alliance members alive to kill them all in front of Luffy later, before killing him as well. Or leaving him alive, completely broken and thrown him in a cell. If the raid would have ended in failure, I feel like the story would be over.

[@OP-ig1fj]

ya only luffy suffered the loss. no real consequences to the rest of the crew, was there@@AiirxGeordan

[@Monkeytheluffy56]

That's the reason i stopped watching theory videos. It takes away the enjoyment from the story, at first i was always excited to read a new one piece chapter and be utterly excited to see what unfolds further in the story. After getting neck deep in the swamp of theories, i started getting disappointed if the events didn't happen according to my liking or expectations. I could only enjoy when some of my predictions came true. It took me a quarter of wano to realise this and pull myself out of the theory swamp. I stopped watching theories, i stopped making predictions. I would just watch if there are some connections to the past incidents , easter eggs and other small things that are not too deep, i started enjoing the story again and now with the egghead arc, reading one piece has never been as exciting and thrilling as now. FANS ARE SUPPOSED TO ENJOY THE STORY THEY LOVE, WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DECIDE THE TRAJECTORY OF ITS EVENTS. JUST ENJOY THE WAY STORY UNFOLDS FURTHER.

[@jazzburrell8870]

Based opinion. Oda will always wright his story better than anyone else

[@aj1218]

Been reading One Piece since 2003. If you can find the old Arlong Park posts the "Sanji is a devil fruit theory" people were dedicated to this theory for years

[@charliewenger7682]

"I don't like the climax of this arc so that must mean this is a fake out and Oda will do another better climax afterward" is and always was a stupid argument. I honestly cannot understand actually thinking Wano was gonna go on for another 50 chapters when the raid was already 3/4 of the way done, it boggles my mind.

[@rethekpista]

I don't know how luffy could have become the pirate king if the raid failed.

[@jaydenlamothe9554]

then you havent actually listened to the theory

[@spiralgodking9877]

I love how Oda went with Fifth Gear; Luffy becoming a bouncy laughing Joy boi~!!! It's perfect for his character; laughing in the face of evil~!!!😂😂😂

[@sakanagakyoko]

The fact that fans believed that the raid could fail is a great achivement for oda i think

[@edwardalyassin7887]

At laugh tale Luffy opens a box named one piece and inside he sees kaidos face with a sharingan. Then he says plainly, the raid on onigashima has failed. The end.

[@cosmicklutz1675]

Have you seen his most recent video? Luffy was born from the egg on roger’s ship 😂😂😂😂

[@FlareFritz]

Another newer one is "How imu created the red line with the world serpent fruit"

[@spotted9106]

Lol

[@WhataBotch]

Morj till this day will say Oda wrote against him Lmaoo

[@cameronfield4617]

I dont watch Morj so i cant really judge, but he kind of just seems like he has a very trashy petty personality. All i have seen from him recently is him being super negative and trashing on One Piece, especially the live action and whenever he is wrong about something he gets super defensive and petty Say what you will about Tekking but at least when he's always wrong he doesnt become a petty whiney brat

[@jazzburrell8870]

He does make good videos, he just has some LOW lows

[@cameronfield4617]

@@jazzburrell8870 @jazzburrell8870 @jazzburrell8870 thanks for the info, it does seem like there are some diamonds in the rough. But I just can't stand people that double down on being wrong about something and become a jackass about it when they can just grow up and admit that a theory they had was just wrong. I don't see what the shame in that is I don't know he just seems like a very negative person and I don't want to watch someone constantly trashing something

[@jazzburrell8870]

@cameronfield4617 my goodness you have my attention!

[@mermer2938]

Spoiler alert. Kudos to Morj. He influenced the community so much, making Oda want to write a failed raid (egghead)

[@BoScotty]

Morj is still a very trustworthy content creator. The raid discussion was a particularly interesting situation. From his own words, Morj was highly invested in Wano and wanted to like it. Because of his high emotional investment in the arc, he wanted the raid to fail and it just sadly got carried away. With that being said, I don't think its wise to say "morj is hard to be trusted if you're a fan" or anything of that nature, I still find Morj to be one of the best OP content creators on the site.

[@mitchellty]

He hasn’t been correct ever

[@katsuo7798]

@@mitchelltythats just not true lol

[@memebrain2177]

I expected big things from Hawkins like manipulating voodoo dolls of Kaido in order to kill him as a big brain 100 IQ plan because I liked him along with urouge but instead I accepted he wasn't all that Also what do you think of the big mom pirates being sidelined when perospero could have brought them along with him instead of just taking on a yonko crew with his mother alone It's just seems off

[@juiuice]

yeah, im still waiting on Oda on what even happened to them when they were heading to wano

[@tesytes318]

The big mom pirates would have done what? Like really think about it only one of them had any connection to what's going on . So what are the others going to do ? We're we going to get like every law and kidd crew member going to get a fight alone with the strawhats getting like 2 ? Like yall kill with the big mom stuff like yall didn't think .

[@tesytes318]

Lmfao I just realized you basically are saying Hawkins would beat kaido like THE KIADO a man we seen take attacks from gear 4th luffy and laughs and smiles a man who's fought the top tiers of this verse and Hawkins was going to do damage to him ?

[@memebrain2177]

@@tesytes318 I thought he would be the bege of wano a super nova joining yonko ranks just to betray them and take them down Because Hawkins is intelligent or so I thought

[@tesytes318]

@Memebrain bro it's kaido . Like he folded when he saw him . 🤣 bege is a gangster and he makes sense for someone like him but Hawkins it doesn't. Like idk why you thought that when we had both kidd and law also like really. And saying he isn't smart also makes no sense seeing as we always see him use his cards before he does anything. He always checks the odds . Not once has he been stated to be some super genius not saying he isn't smart I mean bro saw kaido and knew I ain't that guy and became part of the crew .

[@savinghumanity6661]

IMO, ZKK is much worse than raid failing cause there's more OP content creators who believed on that sh*t unlike the latter which is only morj and his fans and memelords.

[@YahikoTendo]

I never bought into the raid theory because it would go against the themes of Wano.

[@jonathandelgado3755]

I still believe the Raid will fail.

[@davidkerr7350]

Stop! Just Stop!

[@goldmemberpb]

Spoilers for Wano and beyond... The entire raid failing made little sense since the SH would be trapped in Wano forever or just die. But I was onboard with the idea that the SH fights would be way more harrowing than it ended up being. The fact is that we get introduced to ancient zoans who are meant to be very very durable. I mean both Page one and Ulti would not stay down. The former needed a conqueror's haki punch from Big Mom to finally put him down and Ulti took the Mazer cannon to the gut and still got up. So, it was safe to assume that all of the tobbi roppo had similar endurance. But then both Robin and Franky took them down in their immediate match up. Imagine if Franky realized that Sasaki still was not down after taking a laser attack. He now has to fight someone who could trash the Franky Shogun. Or if Black Maria managed to get up after the jaccuzi clutch and Robin had to go even beyond, maybe even use haki in the process to finally put her down. The SH are meant to be a Yonkou crew after all. All of them learning and growing beyond what they actually showed in Wano would have been great for that kind of prestige a Yonkou crew carries. I mean, Nami and Usopp did not even get any one on one fight. Ulti was way too much for Nami and needed Big Mom Ex machina. Even with Zeus now, Nami is a gigantic glass cannon. We could have had Usopp and Nami fully team up against Ulti, and actually managing to bring her down. Usopp does have haki and Nami could have also learned to tap into that. Zeus could have helped Nami without Big Mom heavily injuring Ulti. I think Zoro, Sanji, and Jimbei fights were fine for the most part. Who's who could have been way more resilient and gave Jimbei bit more of a fight but him being down in a single fight makes sense because Jimbei is just that strong. Without the hindsight of the whole series, I think Wano could have spent way more time fleshing out the SH's role in the raid if Yamato just didn't exist. Since she didn't join the crew, it makes all of the chapters following her a massive waste of time. Unlike the grand fleet, I can't really think of a reason as to why Yamato needed to be part of the story. The fact that Oda himself was very unsure of what to do with Yamato in his road to laughtale chapters are proofs of that. You cut her out, and give those panels to SH and the samurais and we get a much more cohesive and shorter arc as a result.

[@ruanvictorcabraldelima4752]

Well, I do think the ending of wano was a bit rushed, luffy defeated kaidou a bit too fast, I know that sounds crazy, but luffy was one shoted in the first act of wano, in the second he couldn't do anything against big mom with amnesia, and it's enphasized across the entire arc how durable the zoan devil fruits users are, and seeing a whole crew created around this power go down in such short fights is crazy, lucci had a awakened zoan, so do the guards in impel down, but king, queen, jack, don't have? But well I agree with your point, theories can distract from the story being told, but at the same time, one piece invites theories, so many misterys in the story, and even if was already complete, reading 1000+ chapters without wondering how a arc or saga will end, is mind-blowing to me.

[@LightBringer666]

the crazy part is that the raid failing DID happen twice, first when we learn of the traitor and how the meeting location was manipulated. and then when luffy flat out dies and everyone who can feels he's dead. the point of these "failures" in this arc was to emphasize the themes of hope and struggling for freedom no matter the cost, and it culminated in the will of the side of good not wavering, and their salvation coming through luffy's awakening and subsequently the bajrang gun. Morj tunnel-visioned on seeing the arc go in a certain way that he completely missed when it did so more subtly than he may have expected.

[@tharug5785]

I do think you're right that someone should be looking at the story and ask what is the author actually trying to do or say or why. Like inquiring deeper. But i also think that one's own expectations for a story is a pretty good indication for what someone wants from a story. Like if you want a tonal low point in a story, it implies that there's a sombreness to a story that you enjoy and you can use that introspective realisation to then find a story that does have more of a sombre tone to get that fill. I think people don't like this idea, because they think that's letting go of their criticisms for a story and finding another one, but one piece has never really been one to get that sombre unless it absolutely has to like with marine ford. Like it has its own identity when it comes to death and difficulty which is generally pretty light. If it isn't light, it only dips into it. It never fully swims in that area for too long. So expecting Wano from one piece to have a low point is more of a wish. Like i would personally prefer that, but if I don't get that, im going to use that as information to find something that does have that tone. Rather than expecting a series that doesn't always dip into a low point to provide that for me.

[@fromationart5371]

as someone who used to be a long time sub of Morj, watching his downward spiral into this theory in real time was wild 😅

[@manafish8732]

in retrospect, i think the popularity of this theory was just a way for people to express that they wanted wano to feel emotionally heavy and serious for the main characters in a similar way to arcs like enies lobby, hell even WCI felt more dire and down to the wire than wano

[@-tom-8720]

I think you've misunderstood the reason why many fans were disapointed by Wano and clung to the raid failing, it wasn't because of Morj's theory but rather the flaws of Wano itself. There was initial criticism of Wano in Act 1, mainly by more casual powerscallers, that Wano wasn't good because it wasn't Marineford; they expected big battles right away and insane chapters immediately. These people were generally laughed at by the larger community and even chewed out by Morj in a rant after kaido one shot Luffy. However during act 2 real ligitimate criticisms started to be put forward ranging from the slow yet fast pacing, the focus on the scabbards that no one cared about nor where made too, the lack of substantial plotlines (endless cutting around to anemic storylines like Nami spying or Sanji and Page 1 that only last a few chapters and offer little for the plot, character, or arc. (Not my opinions but what was put forward at the time) and even more surface level criticisms like Big Mom's anemia. The response however was always the same, 'Have faith in Oda", "This will be resolved later", and most notably "This is Wano" no one thought Wano could be bad in fact the excitement for the arc was so insense nothing short of the best arc in fiction would satisfy fans. (to the point I think the main reason alot of people enjoy Wano so much is because they were looking for any scene to gush over to justify their pre-concieved love for Wano; even if it wasn't necessarily deserving of it, such as Sanji v Queen, Zoro v Killer the Tobbi Roppo fights ect.) This all led to many fans bottling up their feelings and waiting for Oda to relieve them, because they too were convinced that Wano would be the best, how couldn't they not, it was Wano, the arc that was built up for a decade, the arc the editors and Oda had hyped for years the arc were Luffy would defeat not 1 but 2 emperor after all. However their criticisms mounted even more in Act 3, the empty fights with lack luster villians, the ice oni's the lack of depth from the strawhats, no real scenes of weight, no one tacking anything seriously and most notably the lack of stakes or tension and many more of course. This meant many fans were looking for hope, not just a way for the criticisms to be resolved because that would make Wano a good but flawed arc and Wano must be perfect afterall, so the flaws must turn into postitives for the arc. Thats when many found Morj's raid failling videos and felt this would largely solve the issues had and so began to believe and had to constantly double down otherwise the arc would be shit and that simply is impossible, it's Wano afterall. Then Wano Ended. Kaido didn't get up. The Raid didn't fail. None of their criticisms were resolved and they were left with a permanently flawed Wano, a bad Wano even, and this broke them, just watch Morj's streams after the raid succeeded it's just defeated people left with an arc that has nothing that appeals to them, that they see as empty, emotionless and utterly underwhellming, the comments on Morj's videos suppoert this too, this wasn't Morj's fault this was Wano's. Oda's. As far as they see it Oda failed. Keep in mind these people aren't casuals these weren't the people who usual disliked OP arcs after they ended these were the supporters of WCI, Dressrosa, Fishman Island ect, the ones who care about themes and character arcs ect, and they felt Oda had failed in all these respects. I feel your video is misplaced and isn't representative of what actually happened in the community. Your criticisms of Morj's arugments are soild though well done, and thank you for the video I'm sure it took a while, have a pleasant day.

[@star-rock6466]

I'm pretty sure they were setting still themselves to disappointement, like a lot of shonen fanbases do. I definitely remember Oda talking about how one arc about the final saga was gonna surpassed Marine Ford, but he never said it was gonna be wano. I'm also sure wano's flaws were also due to Oda being limited with the pages and the fact he was kinda rushing through it due to wano already being too long (which is smt I honestly do think the anime is gonna kinda fix, given the fact that they made zoro's and sanji's fights FAR better)

[@-tom-8720]

@@star-rock6466 It was more so the editors rather than Oda that hyped up the arc through comments especially in WCI, although we can't ignore that Oda spent the ENTIRE new world just building up to Wano, its not at all unfounded to have very high expectations for such an arc, especially when its 150 chapters long. I disagree with the idea that Oda was rushed he had 150 chapters after all that's longer than the water 7 saga, the main reason that wano is bad is because he just didn't attempt to do anything of note, just look at the Sanji and Zoro fights you mentioned, these are fights that lacked both dramatic and emotional weight almost completely, Oda didn't really add in any payoff for the characters in the fight at all, and so the anime saw a hole, and have added in artificial peaks that have improved the fights for many. You can see this across Wano, Oda for some odd reason downplaying his story and not adding in big scenes or moments so the anime just turns stuff that could of been big like Advanced Conquers in to hype artificial moments (with we are or insane animation) I think the fact the anime is doing this in spite of the writing of Wano is a condemnation of the manga and arc not a boon to it.

[@cyruscrompton8221]

thats how i got sucked into the theory, I felt like it answered SO many problems that were blatant with Wano that it made more sense. I dont dislike Wano because the raid didnt fail, I just think it would solve issues it had (boring fights, boring characters, excess characters, literally only the monster trio getting to do anything interesting) and it felt pretty bitter with the way Wano ended

[@ahmadazem4167]

nah they are we will see a few years from now when people will be singing wano's praises, lol

[@jacjac7154]

@@-tom-8720 wano isn't bad

[@mew1023]

Cringe buying into your own expectations vs. chad media literacy and thoughtful discussion

[@zouwu4487]

You just summed up everything that turns me off about theory specific communities when they go off the rails. Oda more than most other shounen artists plays with and dances around our pre-supposed notions of what shounen is, was, or can be. Power scaling can have a similar issue and often runs parallel to theory crafting

[@jbro5126]

I like a lot of the theorists of my fave one piece KZbinrs bad I never hate the story for them not being right, I like it even more for surprising me with things I never thought of, that’s why I love One piece

[@justanamitard]

Good stuff matey

[@henrybilsland1035]

Great video man. I personally really needed to hear it. I got pissed recently when Shanks one shot kidd instead of being excited because I felt it made big mom seem incredibly weak in comparison. While I still love scaling one piece characters, I should just let oda decide how strong his characters are rather than let me personal scaling of characters ruin the enjoyment of the series. Also I’m impressed you had the restraint to not roast moji for saying luffy with do a Davy back fight with shanks.

[@ahmadazem4167]

while i agree with the sentiment, big mom fought both kid and law while they are awakened and they won due to sending her into a vulcano(using a bomb) rather than a straight up win. if law and kidd tag teamed shanks law would simply teleport them away from the attack(like he did v big mom)

[@henrybilsland1035]

@@ahmadazem4167 my issue is that Kidd tanked multiple named attacks from Big Mom while Shanks one shots him. Even if you thought Shanks was stronger than big mom, the story still implied they were in the same ball park of power

[@raisofahri5797]

@@henrybilsland1035 what he gonna do, his punk cannon can only attack after charge, while fighting big mom or kaido he can do that because other also fighting while on shank he just can't because shank supprise attack without notice

[@henrybilsland1035]

@@raisofahri5797 it’s not that it’s the durability. He tanked multiple named attacks from big mom including mama mash and mothers misery and kept fighting, whereas shanks did it in one attack

[@MOHDNAZMI-xe9go]

​@@henrybilsland1035keep coping.i try say oda ruin story by let big mom go downfall to kid and law in wano .kid is big mouth talk, arrogant, pathetic also play pirates games also acting like only he have worst childhood while other not but Luffy childhood more worse than kid because Dragon bum father also have bad leadership organization at same time Garp is WG puppet tool with protect celestial dragon who work corrupt government.oda should save big mom downfall at Luffy hand elbaf arc it will more excited because we will have epic clash haki between haki Luffy and big mom . Luffy promise to Katakuri that he will bring big mom down.big mom downfall by Luffy have similarities with rock downfall to Roger and Garp at god valley

[@teepingtom4161]

I will forever maintain my stance that the raid failing would have been cooler…

[@megajor232]

An emperors crew having ZERO awaked zoans is wild. I was sure oda was cooking some crazy comeback moment where the apparently defeated beast pirates get back up

[@AE-or7xd]

Well most of Kaido's crew joined after he broke their will to grow by themselves. So it's basically the frieza situation but spread across a massive pirate empire

[@krishnanandpremanand3581]

​@@AE-or7xdmaybe but at least king, queen, jack or Kaido could have had awakened Zoans

[@wrenchdodger]

I mean Morj is right about Kaido’s defeat. Doffy and Crocodile both got an epic defeat in front of the people they were terrorizing and they weren’t good people. Kaido gets defeated in the dark with no one in the Flower Capital even knowing what happened. The people he oppressed never got the catharsis of seeing their oppressor defeated, Kaido lost like a bum (unlike Crocodile and Doffy). The Raid failing would have added some tension, it’s not the only way, but it is a way. Being in Wano was not like being in WCI. There was no fear of the Beast Pirates, just an assuredness that we’d eventually beat them. Which is not tense. All allies won their major fights (except the Scabbards), the Beast Pirates were rolled over. You’d expect a conflict we built up to for almost a decade to have some failure in it, some tension. Is it gonna be this easy in the Final War too? Wano felt like a lot was just handed to the Allies; Luffy got two new forms of haki and a god fruit power up, Sanji got a new body, Zoro got an OP sword and ACoC, Law and Kid got awakenings… all at the same time that Big Mom refused to use ACoC vs. Kid and Law (because they would lose) and Kaido wasn’t even allowed to rampage for more than a chapter after “defeating” Luffy (because he’d destroy everyone).

[@thevoid5732]

Wasn't kaido losing in the dark ultimately the point. He never got the satisfaction of a grand death like roger or wb which is what he wanted

[@sonofcronos7831]

This problem exists in one piece since always. Back in Alabasta Crocodile could use inumerable attacks to defeat Luffy in the final battle. Or Lucy saying he would not kill Luffy because he was bored (thus giving time to Luffy to recover). Heck even Moriah could have easily defeated the strawhats by just screwing with them thanks to his abilities. While some Luffy's victories are earned like Doflamingo, in a lot of them, the enemies just becomes dumb for him to win.

[@princegerma1105]

Morg needs to see this video 📹

[@JD-yn8ce]

jokes on you, i always liked skypia. although admittedly i hated it in the anime cause its felt like the pacing along with the lack of major beats makes it seem way slower than it is in the manga

[@ew275x]

Liked for the Me and Roboco reference panel, also good exploration on how weekly reading can harm someone’s experience.

[@nachinis]

Listen I love theories, but they can be dangerous and they quickly get out of hand.

[@YepMarko]

I do not mind theoryes and it's fun to guess some future in story also to make story what yo would like most, (for me Carrot to get yuki yuki fruit and join crew was that) but just get over as fun art not what story should be.

[@hustlerisland1606]

I love morj

[@bobbob-zc1nx]

Stop coping The raid failing not only msde sense but it was far better writing than the trash that we got. Wano sucked and yiu know it. Odas shown better in the past......so it makes sense to have these expectations in the finally of a saga. What do we get? Plot holes, massive contrivances, luffy getting back up 3 times. No awakenings, kiado not showing the same recovery as luffy or even his subordinates. The raid failing set up kiados/ big memes end war while giving the heros time to train with new powers, along with the grand fleets aid.....oh and morias whole character apperance too. We didn't enjoy it less because of morji you one piece fanboys cant take criticism, you cant except your idol wrote mid or worse, oda wrote trash.

[@MrPsych77]

We literally spent 3 years with the manga emphasizing that they only had one chance. No turning back. If it failed how are the strawhats going to realistically get away or build up strength to take on two emperors if a majority is wiped out. People would call bs on the sheer amount of plot armor. Oh and one of the major complaints of wano was how long it was I'm sure adding 2 more years would make it all better huh no one would be complaining right?

[@bobbob-zc1nx]

@MrPsych77 we would just be trading plot armor, there would be much less plot armor, if it ended sooner. Why didn't we have to fight big meme crew? She even beat tons of enemies. They have a sub and a guy who can telelport, they'll figure it out. They had multiple power ups and plot holes just to survive this fight, not yo mention the enemies fought with an iq of 30. They should've ran with who they could bring and then started the thrown wars arc with the emperors making moves. So much wasted potential in this arc from lore, fights, character interaction and appearance. Saving wano would be much easier if kiado and his big hitters and big meme weren't there. Just deal with an actual samurai enemy (which we never got) and Yamato with the tobiropo would be a reasonable victory for the comeback. Then protect wano with pluton and adult, trained momo and the grand fleet, capturing the territory like before.

[@michaelbraxton137]

Great video man

[@SJNaka101]

I think the theory aged wonderfully. Sure, it didn't come true, but everyone bitched about the ending being rushed FOR THE SAME REASONS morj said the raid would fail. Everyone was sucking wano's nuts before the ending, but wano ended as one of the most divisive arcs in one piece. Morj was right - oda didn't build up one of his classic endings, and morj was calling years in advance that there'd have to be some kicker to really make the ending shine. The theory wasn't even that the raid would fail, that's the title fans came up with, and morj just rolled with it. If you watch the first several raid fail videos, he says over and over that it doesn't have to be the raid failing, just *something* to kick the stakes into high gear by the end.

[@Kyonari]

I'm no fan of One Piece theories because they can simply be debunked and are ridiculous I'm glad they never happen, or else One Piece would be much worse

[@Riven0x]

like momo being joyboy or luffy's awakening turning him into resin....

[@Kyonari]

@@Riven0x or Blackbeard having 3 hearts like his Devil Fruit wasn't introduced to be able to negate and attracted Devil Fruit Powers

[@Riven0x]

@@Kyonari I agree but having multiple personalities/souls is a strong theory since luffy and zoro called him "they"

[@Kyonari]

@@Riven0x and how would they know that Blackbeard has multiple personalities?

[@Riven0x]

@@Kyonari that I don't know. Why do they call him "they" and never elaborate on it?

[@LordChip]

Having theories like this can go wrong in both ways. You can be dissapointed because it did not go as expected like you said. But being correct can be dissapointing as well because that means that the story is predictable. .

[@omarconteh9714]

I'm pretty sure he only said the raid would fail for more views. Smart af

[@NeoCinnamon]

Bruh as someone who went into Naruto mostly blind not knowing what it was about, early Naruto was very much Hard Work beats Natural talent or that's the story it felt like it was trying to teach with Naruto trying to overcome Sasuke and beating Neji. It obviously didn't become that and more leaned into forgiveness but saying it was at no point about hard work feels wrong, like some of the top Naruto KZbinrs that have watched the show and read the manga even state that it's one of 2 core themes. Like it'd be saying that one of the themes in One Piece isn't found family, because Whitebeard is no longer in the picture. Like no that's still very much a heavy theme in One Piece, despite that the main theme in One Piece is freedom, you wouldn't discount another theme other than freedom for being less of a theme than the main theme would you? But yeah this video aside from that point was really good!

[@trashiki]

If it’s about hard work overcoming natural talent why did Lee lose to Gaara.

[@NeoCinnamon]

​@@trashiki there's an overcoming aspect to it. The fact that he almost hit gaara when he had no natural talent shows that hard work does pay off. Naruto in that same arc manages to beat Neji even furthering that idea. I'm not saying it was super built upon, but it's pretty implied in early naruto even with Naruto and Sasuke. Of course though it does change or grow less into this idea later in the series with Naruto being one of the most helped characters in the series.

[@trashiki]

@@NeoCinnamon it never changed. Lee was stated to have talent in the Gaara fight. He was talented at the gates, Kakashi said so and we were shown as Neji the genius couldn’t open the first gate in a flashback. The fight is about Lee destroying himself to prove his own self worth but failing to win because he unlike Naruto didn’t understand Gaara. Naruto isn’t about hard work vs natural talent, the one fight it seems like it’s about that just isn’t.

[@NeoCinnamon]

@@trashiki Isn't the Neji vs Naruto fight that same concept. and Naruto vs Sasuke as a whole? I'm just going to say, if many people watched it and came to the same conclusion that's on the writing of the series for portraying a false narrative rather than the fans for believing in something that was set up that way.

[@trashiki]

@@NeoCinnamon no Neji vs Naruto is about social standing. Neji’s social standing is the inferior main branch and he hates it and forces that feeling of entrapment on everyone. Naruto’s social standing is the loser no one loves and Neji says that person will always be viewed that way and never rise to hokage. And no Naruto vs Sasuke is about understanding and bonds. Their constant push and pull of understanding and not understanding each other. We even see Sasuke isn’t a prodigy, he had to work insanely hard to get even close to the same level as his genius brother. Like how do you look at the final fight and think hard work vs natural talent has anything to do with what’s going on. And I completely disagree with blaming the series. The hard work absolutism we see seems to mostly come from more western countries especially America. Likely because of the different ways our cultures view hard work. From everything I’ve seen the hard work whining is minuscule in Japanese fan groups. So no it’s not the series fault for confusing you. It’s your fault for being bad at analysis.

[@kingken8916]

I hate and don't watch channels about theories because all those people are doing is trying to spoil the story for themselves and others. It's like playing a game or watching a movie. If you already know the story and ending then why partake in it. It becomes boring and stale. You want to try to spoil the story for yourself trying to guess the story then more power to but keep it to yourself. Just remember Oda is the writer of the story and it goes the way he wants it not the fans way

[@Yggdraseed]

I have a few problems with Wano, including how bloated it got. I think Wano hit critical mass, and marks the limit of how big Oda can make an arc before it starts getting away from him. My biggest problem is probably more my own bias than anything else, but it's one I feel strongly about. The way Oda handled Yamato really rubbed me the wrong way. I adore Yamato, from design to personality - everything. The way Oda built Yamato up only to then not have them leave Wano felt like a huge mistake, mainly because Wano is not Yamato's home, it's Yamato's prison. Wano is a place where Yamato was abused and bound to against their will. I think it goes against everything the story stands for to make Yamato have to wait for their freedom. And my hope is that Yamato will return, and have a chance to run around and have fun with the crew before the series is over. Maybe on Elbaph, since there's still some questions lingering about Oni. Kaido implied Oni are a distinct race, and they seem like they're related to giants, given the experiments on creating ancient giants Kaido was doing. I just feel like Yamato really got slighted. I don't think the Oniwabanshu needed to be introduced at all. They do nothing except for Fukurokujo, and all he does is have a big, stupid long staring contest with Raizo. The Numbers amounted to nothing, Perospero and the Minks were largely just there for no good reason, CP0 just lurk around and soak up screentime. One of these elements would have been fine, but taken altogether, they all feel like they're only there because they need to be there for the culmination of the Four Emperors saga and they don't really have anything to contribute. I feel the same way about Kanjuro's big fire ghost adding an unnecessary second countdown on top of Onigashima falling. Just way too much crammed into the arc that didn't need to be there and didn't really come together, and at the expense of a character that should have gotten more development, but didn't. That's my personal take on it. I figure most people wouldn't agree, but yeah. I think Yamato really should have been a bigger player in this arc, and a lot of nothing fights between characters who don't go anywhere could have been dropped.

[@cyruscrompton8221]

(people were saying the original sucked so i changed it I hope this is more clear) 9:30 You missed the point on this one, he never said it couldn't be resolved within a fight but that it can't be resolved in the same amount of time other fights were getting, no where does he say it has to be outside of a fight. *At the time* most fights in Act 3 were stuff like Franky vs Sasaki, Jimbe vs Who's Who and others which lasted for like 1-2 chapters (can we even consider Ulti and Page 1 as fights?), it would be a huge disservice to sanji if had the same amount of time for his huge ass arc 'The Final Argument For The Raid Failing' (8 :16) "it would be almost impossible to do that well in a *single* chapter of beating queen" (9 :35)"it would be crazy to have that development in the the same length of time of Franky vs Sasaki" 16:00 That is the final impact frame... Its literally where Kaido falls, its a lot like Croc and Doffy's final impact but much smaller. That tiny frame is the one where Kaido falls for good, not just any impact panel like doffy getting punched but like doffy smashing into the ground or Crocodile breaking through the bedrock. The whole reason why he points it out is because it IS so tiny, it just looks like any other impact panel not the final climatic, dramatic one. Maybe impact isn't the right word? Climax? Doesn't matter really People weren't disappointed because Morj set them up to be, just like how the old comments you showed didn't have morj telling them Enies Lobby raid would fail, there are people who don't even watch morj who didn't like Onigashima Act 3 wasn't living up to expectations and the raid failing was just a way to fix those problems. It gave a strong sense of hope that there IS reason why Onigashima is the way it is, to give a good reason why it felt so different compared to other arcs Like Ussop is a good example, he hasn't done anything for hundreds of chapters and constantly talked about torture, it felt like it was setting up for something and went no where. It seems like you're the one who found your point without thinking of any other option. Morj is definetely not perfect and it was pretty dumb to keep going for THIS long but this is just reading the situation completely wrong. He's been proven wrong before and was never salty about it (ex: kidd in elbaf), he thinks its bad writing not because it succeeded but because of the tons of problems Act3 had that no other arc in one piece has (surplus of characters, important moments off screen, bad fast pacing, etc) which is why he made the theory in the first place. The raid failing was just *a* way to fix them, not the only way.

[@ahmadazem4167]

its fine to be dissapointed, just like those people you mentioned that were disspointed with enies lobby, its annoying to use your frankly stupid theory as a shield and not stating plainly what you like and dont like

[@jacjac7154]

reading your comment I disagree that he misrepresented those arguments. to me it feels like your saying the same thing with little differences that don't impact much.

[@Kanemakii]

⁠@@jacjac7154I agree. Cyrus doesn’t seem like he’s saying much at all n lacks substance in his response

[@cyruscrompton8221]

@@Kanemakii @jacjac7154 understood, hope this is better

[@JanjoZone]

Well, for what it's worth, at least Morj is committed.

[@Irkaylub]

its crazy how a guy that framed an entire climax to an arc through speculation can also blame the author for not living up to the expectations that some popular guy made up I never watched morj but I've seen all of his arguments and expectations pasted all over twitter when wano was ending but sure, its not his responsibility when people run with his fan fiction and discredit the story because of said fan fiction

[@rangopistacho6928]

why the heck did he had to double down, why cant he just accept that not everyone can accurately predict what oda will do

[@maknotcory]

I just wanted more moments like bleeding Luffy vs Crocodile or Luffy vs Lucci. I wanted to see Luffy go from having fun to slugging it out against the strongest creature with a more dramatic finish/low point than we've ever seen so far. I agree that Morj has affected ppls views on the arc and likely mine and actually agreed with more of ur points than I thought I would but man I just wanted more than we got given the build-up.

[@SquagelZ]

The way you say the word “sorry”... suddenly I taste maple syrup...

[@MonkeBrain07]

Oh, man. This was such a meme back when Wano was still ongoing.

[@MJonMBoviM]

I stuck to my "carrot will join the crew" theory up until oda deconfirmed it by having her the new leader of zou. But i never held onto it after

[@ddl385]

Morj's best videos are the ones where he does what you are proposing: analysis of past manga events. The theory ones are mostly misses, just like OP theories in general are a crapshoot. These days I mostly just stick to watch Morj's analyses and skip the rest. He did get some hits though, like when he correctly called Yamato not joining the strawhats when everyone else was saying he would. But that's another consequence of Morj's insistence on the raid failure theory. It became the center of his channel in such a way that it hogged attention from his other (mostly good) content.

[@mrbubbles6468]

Kicker is just keeping Luffy dead for more than half a chapter would have done what Morj was asking for.

[@Zkhal]

The only weekly reviewer I watch is the 🐐 Grand Line Review

[@sisilotau2185]

To Mojis credit, yea he did go way too far with his whole the raid will fail things but he was spot on that Luffy was actually Nika. I think that more than makes up for it

[@joy4themightydonutchainsaw620]

19:30 All these points are fantastic especially the Hard Work one

[@Gluefy]

Hindsight king SO FUCKING COOL 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@gimpystimpy5304]

ngl i’m seeing a lot of people say he made a good argument at the beginning of the arc, but even that i don’t agree with. is that not the point of these videos? when you’re drip fed in formation especially the way one piece does it you’re given a lot of minute details that aren’t connected until the end. so yeah you can grab some loose ends and make them seem like anything is plausible at the beginning of the arc. when i first heard the theory i never believed it, even more so after he started saying “if the raid doesn’t fail oda is officially a bad writer” lmao

[@davidkerr7350]

People who comment the that raid will still fail just stop already what's done is done move on.

[@runescape33433]

Still wish it failed

[@Speed001]

I never saw the theory that 'the raid would fail' impacting my community discourse negatively. I only heard a few mentions like most theories, nothing like lying.

[@JAI_SHREE_RAM12337]

Dude im telling you man the raid is gonna fail kaido is gonna jump out of the lava and awaken and the raid is gonna FAIL Just like our theorie😅

[@wartty]

Tries to act as though Wano's climate doesn't need to be explained. Proceeds to realize that every other islands weird climates were explains but still chooses to include the point lol

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

What started as a theory quickly turned into him wanting this to be true and refused to accept any other outcome as a result that's why I hate him so much. But not only were there behind the scenes reasons for why this would'nt happen a big one being Oda's health, story wise it makes no sense for the Straw Hats to lose to the Beast Pirates once they were in Wano other than to pad out the arc longer unnessicarly. He and others who agreed seemed to really underestimate how strong the Straw Hats had become or one of the main traits of Luffy. Once he says he'll beat someone he's going to do it no matter how hard he has to fight, even if it takes him more than one try he won't stop until his enemy is down on the ground and not a threat anymore. That's how he's always been and while he did need power ups to get on Kaido's level every single one was built up or foreshadowed long before he actually used them. Oda handled Kaido very well in my opinion, powerful enough to be a humongus threat but not so much that nobody could hope to touch him.

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

Its just a meme. Intended to cement his stamp on op and it did. The raid fail like it or not worked

[@Levi-rr4xc]

You hate him for pushing a theory?? 😂

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

@@Levi-rr4xc I hate him because he believed it was objective fact to the point he let it color how he felt about the arc overall. I do not like reviewers who are arrogant like that. Over and Over I said there was no way the raid would fail because 1. It made no sense for that to happen at this point and 2. With Oda's health issues it's obvious he wants to start wrapping this story up, that does'nt mean he'll rush it but it does mean he can't afford to spend too long on one arc than he orignally planned for. And I for one think he deserves to be able to see this story through to it's proper conclusion. Now if the raid had gone on longer I would've accepted it and figured Oda would have a good reason. But the difference with Morj is that he wanted that to be true so much he started making things up and manipluating context to try to make it seem like it would get to where he wanted it to. Even using things Oda never said or were said so long ago we have no idea if he still thought that way as Wano was going on. That's why I hate him because he's the type of reviewer I can't stand.

[@a.x.oproductions470]

i still support the raid failing!! (i’m in absolute denial of reality)

[@trashiki]

Boy was watching through all those vids with you painful. Slowly going from mild disagreement to laughing at how fucking bullshit his final vid was.

[@JRHawker12]

Carrot not being a crew mate ruins the story. 😉

[@blairgorgonio8977]

Your back

[@DragoEpyon]

I don't get why anyone ever thinks 'The good guys are going to lose' is ever a valid theory

[@Wusaruful]

true lord of the rings was ruined when gandalf was killed by the balrog, just free wins left and right is great

[@manafish8732]

you need some friction to make a story interesting. if the struggles and low points are not highlighted, like with wano, it feels more emotionally flat than it could have been. why do you think enies lobby and marineford are considered the best arcs generally?

[@registeredsnert8133]

the raid FAILED to not kill kaido

[@seanstange8704]

It technically failed when Luffy died. But then he came back and then it succeeded

[@pats3212]

Morj made a lot of good points for the theory, there really wasn't a believable low point for the SHs and the stakes were so low when Big Mom started doing goofy sh1t it was a tension killer. WCI was already dissappointing in stakes for a Yonko, Wano ended up not being much better in that regard.

[@TheFIame]

I feel like Odens flash back was meant to be the low point combined with the straw hats thinking Luffy was dead. The issue seems to be the pacing of the arch.

[@Raselix]

I'll never understand people wanting a different pairing in Quintessential Quintuplets. Every single other girl was down right nasty and vile in their approach. I guess if you disliked the protagonist wanting him to end up with a vile backstabber might make sense?