The Rapture - What About Being "Caught Up"? (part 3 of 3)

[@luvjoi0817]

Thank you, Pastor Chip! With the Revelation series we've been doing and this mini-series, I finally feel like I'm properly understanding these passages of the Bible for the first time. Thank you for always giving history and context to whatever you're teaching and for sharing your God-given insights.

[@erinb1815]

Thank you Pastor Chip for teaching us with context. We have learned so much for you and our whole family truly enjoy all of your content. We are always sharing your videos with one another !!

[@heartsandmindsathome]

Great lesson :) I’m not a furturist anymore, but I appreciate the way you present the info and break down the word usage clearly! It’s very helpful 👏

[@GaryCrant]

That’s proper exegesis right there!

[@johnhasty3411]

So you think the church will go through the great tribulation…?

[@dougsmith6346]

Question for preTrib people: If a new Christian reads the Bible without having attended an endtimes seminar or reading "left behind", what Bible passages will tell this reader that there's a preTrib rapture? (there are none)

[@mrclymer]

Enoch (Gen 5), Lot (Gen 18, 19), Daniel (as a type) in Dan 4, John in Rev 4:1 disagree. Dr. Bennet teaches about types in the Bible. Also, these passages may refer to the rapture in the OT. 1) Psalm 2:11-12 “Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest He be angry and you perish in your rebellion, when His wrath ignites in an instant. Blessed are all who take refuge in Him.” 2) Psalm 5:10-12 “Declare them guilty, oh God; let them fall by their own devices. Drive them out for their many transgressions, for they have rebelled against You. But let all who take refuge in You rejoice; let them ever shout for joy. May you shelter them, that those who love Your name may rejoice in You. For surely You, oh Lord, bless the righteous; You surround them with the shield of your favor.” 3) Psalm 27:4-5 “One thing I have asked of the Lord; this is what I desire: to dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, to gaze on the beauty of the Lord and seek him in His temple. For in the time of trouble He shall hide me in His pavilion; in the secret place of His tabernacle He shall hide me; He shall set me high upon a rock.” 4) Song of Solomon 2:10-13 “My beloved spoke, and said to me: ‘Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. For lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone. The flowers appear on the earth; the time of singing has come, and the voice of the turtledove is heard in our land. The fig tree puts forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grapes give a good smell. Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away!'” 5) Zephaniah 2:2-3 “Before the decree takes effect and the day passes like chaff, before the burning anger of the Lord comes upon you, before the Day of the Lord’s anger comes upon you. Seek the Lord all you meek of the earth, who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden in the day of the Lord’s anger.” 6) Isaiah 26:19-21 “Your dead shall live; Together with my dead body they shall arise. Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust; for your dew is like the dew of herbs, And the earth shall cast out the dead. Take Refuge from the Coming Judgment. Come, my people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, until the indignation is past. For behold, the Lord comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; the earth will also disclose her blood, and will no more cover her slain.” 7) Isaiah 64: 4-5 “For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither has the eye seen, O God, besides You, what He has prepared for him that waits for Him. You meet him that rejoices and works righteousness, those that remember You in Your ways: behold, you are wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.” Additionally, in the NT 1) 1 Thessalonians 1:10 - 4:15-18 “For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are alive. For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first; then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” 2) 1 Corinthians 2:7-10 “But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the world unto our glory: which none of the princes of this world knew; for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory. But as it is written: Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for them that love Him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. But God has revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.” 3) 1 Corinthians 15:50-53 “Now this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I show you a mystery: We shall not all sleep (die); but we shall all be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” 4) Matthew 24:36-44 “But of that day and hour, knows no man, no, not the angels of Heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark and knew not until the flood came and took them all away, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you know not what hour your Lord will come. But know this: that if the master of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched and would not have suffered his house to be broken into. Therefore be you also ready, for in such an hour as you think not, the Son of Man comes.” 5) John 3:16-18 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. He that believes in Him is not condemned; but He that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” 6) John 5:24-29 “Verily, verily I say unto you, he that hears My Word and believeth in Him that sent Me, has everlasting life and shall not come into condemnation, but is passed from death unto life. Verily, verily I say unto you, the hour is coming and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God; and they that hear shall live. For as the Father hath life in Himself, so hath He given to the Son to have life in Himself, and hath given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. Marvel not at this; for the hour is coming in which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” 7) John 14:1-4 “Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. And wherever I go you know, and the way you know.” Also, the Great Tribulation is also known as the Wrath of God. Though belief in Jesus Christ we are exempted from that (John 3:36) so if Christians go through the Wrath of God, that makes God a promise breaker, scripture is broken then we are to eat and drink for tomorrow we die.

[@bloominglotusalchemy]

To meet the Lord in the air , means we are no longer on the earth , we then will have immortality. We no longer have mortal bodies, please also consider How the Resurrection of Jesus our Saviour took place and what was left in the tomb.

[@robbieheuer4473]

Have you considered Mark 13:27 which is a parallel passage to Matthew 24 and i would argue 1 Thess 4! There it clearly says: and shall gather together the elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of earth to the uttermost part of heaven. That is very clearly a raptue event and to alegorize it is not exegeticaly sound as Jesus says in the very next verse learn the parable of the fig tree. Why does he not say learn the parable of the gathering together of the elect???

[@tmcge3325]

The ends your early exit called rapture (NOT SCRIPTURE!) Matthew 13:37-43....even 47-49 kjv. Do you believe the Lord? John 6:39-40, 44, 54 and 11:24 1 Corinthians 1:6-8, 15:24 and 15:51-58 1 Thessalonians 3:13, 4:13-18 Hebrews 9:26-28 kjv. Revelation 11:15-19 Revelation 3:10 "thou hast kept the word of my patience" "I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation" "which shall come upon all the world, to try them" ((( from the hour, which is to try them ))) Revelation 18:4, 10 and 19 kjv. Fulfills Revelation 3:10 kjv. When a person of faith and believes the word of our Lord, His people will hear "Revelation 18:4 kjv" "My People" ....are you his people? Why not believe him! Peace!

[@ChristCenteredEschatology]

The theme of the gathering in the Bible is resurrection.

[@tmcge3325]

@@ChristCenteredEschatology And Judgment...Last Trump! Last Day, the End of the World.

[@ChristCenteredEschatology]

@@tmcge3325 where is the end of the world found in the Bible?

[@tmcge3325]

@@ChristCenteredEschatology 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints. (End of The World)

[@Chris.A.H]

That was just one of the silliest explanations I’ve ever heard. Paul is clearly talking about actual clouds and actually meeting the Lord in the air. His language is not symbolic it’s literal. With that being said, the text still doesn’t prove a rapture. The rapture theology is false. But you’re trying to hard to disprove the rapture that you’re doing exactly what you accuse others of, forcing the meaning into the text.

[@thelostfountain1678]

I have always had a problem with "rapture", but have not got around to studying up it. I have another heretical subject I want to study hahahaha but honestly, people and Pastors are waaaaaay to "caught up" with rapture (pun intended) Christians have this weird way of putting their hope in rapture vs Jesus. They even seem to want it to come so they can laugh at those that aren't saved. but I never seen that when I read it. I see Christians going through tribulation along with everyone else. But like I said, I have not looked at it seriously yet.

[@TagEngravings]

the "coming of the Lord" happened in 70ad just as Jesus predicted it would happen within that generation.

[@ChristCenteredEschatology]

Amen Brother. Good to see others on here that believe what Christ and his Apostles taught.

[@ChristCenteredEschatology]

Meet in 1 Thessalonians 4 ἀπάντησις apántēsis, It is used in the papyri of a newly arriving magistrate. "It seems that the special idea of the word was the official welcome of a newly arrived dignitary" (Moulton, Greek Test. Gram. Vol. I, p. 14). From Blue letter Bible.

[@tmcge3325]

The ends your early exit called rapture (NOT SCRIPTURE!) Matthew 13:37-43....even 47-49 kjv. Do you believe the Lord? John 6:39-40, 44, 54 and 11:24 1 Corinthians 1:6-8, 15:24 and 15:51-58 1 Thessalonians 3:13, 4:13-18 Hebrews 9:26-28 kjv. Revelation 11:15-19 Revelation 3:10 "thou hast kept the word of my patience" "I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation" "which shall come upon all the world, to try them" ((( from the hour, which is to try them ))) Revelation 18:4, 10 and 19 kjv. Fulfills Revelation 3:10 kjv. When a person of faith and believes the word of our Lord, His people will hear "Revelation 18:4 kjv" "My People" ....are you his people? Why not believe him! Peace!

[@ChristCenteredEschatology]

Jesus said the wicked would be the ones taken. Why don't you believe him? Jesus said the wheat and the tares grow together until the harvest which was at the end of the age Jesus was living in when he spoke (Matt. 13:24-30 & 36-43. Why don't you believe him. Christ and his apostles taught that Christ would return in the first century. Why don't you believe them? I am willing an able to prove that Christ and his Apostles taught that the second coming would be in the first century. Are you willing an able to prove that they did not teach that the second coming would be in the first century?

[@tmcge3325]

@@ChristCenteredEschatology Matthew 13:47-49 kjv I do believe him.

[@tmcge3325]

@@ChristCenteredEschatology "in that day" those 3 words are all over scripture......"in that day, the Great and Terrible Day of our Lord! That Day is the End, the Last Day @ The Last Trump. Prove it wrong!

[@ChristCenteredEschatology]

@@tmcge3325 then why do you believe the wheat will be taken before the tares? Christ said the tares would be burned first.

[@ChristCenteredEschatology]

@@tmcge3325 the last days refers to the last day’s of the Old Covenant, not then of the earth or time. Christ and his Apostles taught that the second coming would be in the lifetime of those living in their day. Prove that that did not teach that.