The REAL For Honor Tierlist for Year 8 Season 1 - Dominion Matchmaking META Rating

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[@guyperson7487]

turn up the music, I can't hear it

[@evandraper623]

Fr bruh 😂

[@dayydayy_1]

I thought I was the only one…it’s driving me nuts lol

[@shoon3032]

At first I was like wym at the very beginning but then the next song hit 😂

[@SirCoffee.]

You should make a tier list of characters you have fun with

[@brosephmyth]

Yes, this!

[@PadraigRooney-ly5ll]

It would be empty

[@zobaaaczymy]

@@PadraigRooney-ly5llnah s tier cent and lawbringer

[@mallysixfour]

Ubi buffed Gryphon’s helmsplitter to be enhanced a long while ago and for some reason Kensei didn’t receive the same treatment

[@user-wo4xz6ri4s]

​@@juiceboxbzrkold man kensei

[@user-wo4xz6ri4s]

He fell behind the meta so much. i only use him when i know the room is not full of regulars and i can actually use my ub mix up.

[@milegyen1111]

​@@juiceboxbzrkdefinitely. Yesterday i played with him and everyone run to be, i thought I will fall asleep till i arrived. I mean i can totally late from a team fight at the very beginning

[@SolidSol69]

Impressive. Very nice 👍

[@carlosvicenty-9856]

Make a new tier list

[@MohammedS2001]

Now let's see Sol's teir list...

[@__-fi6xg]

@@MohammedS2001 if sol wouldnt talk like he gets his eating at all times, id be able to listen to him

[@adamboyd1532]

Sorry if I'm lost somewhere but i can't understand how ring the bell is unsafe, you cant dodge attack it bcus of blade blockade cancel, and can't dodge gb it bcus of recovery times, sure dodge bashes catch it but they tend to be just a better dodge attack in 1's. Am i missing something? What makes it 'unsafe'?

[@toilet9481]

Music in the background is too loud, but this is a great video

[@JohanLiebert95]

Raider Gameplay please

[@Braeboi]

ive been playing a lot of shaman in mm dom lately and i 100% agree with her needing a buff. awful hitbox so no anti ganking at all unless they place themselves in the dead center of your heavies haha

[@chiloguerrero5674]

What heroes are the worst played as

[@justing888]

I'd like to request an anti gank guide video next? 🤔 Titled "In the mind of Faraam" where you commentate why and what you are doing.

[@arran1216]

Curious on your guys philosophy when it comes to balancing. Do you think the C and D tiers should be brought up or S and A brought down?

[@kanjilearnin24]

Bring C and D up. So far the characters that are most fun to fight against imo is Shaman, Cent, and Roach sometimes Jorm.

[@ami6325]

I think S and A tiers should be brought down, it makes the teamwork aspect more necessary when no single hero can be the main character. Sure, it would suck alot more if you solo queue, atleast until the community changes and adapts.

[@bishopwalrus8513]

C and D need to be brought up. I would like for the strong characters to stay strong and just bring the others up to speed. Having everyone be strong is much better than everyone being weak

[@Marinexload]

Bring D up, and bring S down. You can keep C for the most part. Maybe a couple changes here and there with that. A can be brought down just a little bit, but not much

[@drkingdre_]

Mr. Faraam could you please upload a video to help understand how to gank* and how to gank* better in for honor?

[@sergmcmuffin]

Ganking is easy as a concept, you can GB attempt to confirm your teammates strongest attack, when you see a teammate get a GB wind up your strongest attack, time your attacks to avoid messing up knockdowns, revenge punishes, parry punishes, or OOS (out of stamina) punishes. If you want to apply pressure without feeding revenge then spam unblockable feints but don't actually attack and for the love of God don't bash, bashing feeds some of the biggest amounts of revenge right next to GB but bashing can count towards their damage resistance if it does damage. If you're fighting two enemies then make sure to angle your attacks to hit the enemy your not locked on to because even If they can block they can't parry so your unblockables become 3 times as deadly. Left/Right attacks become king when anti ganking, top attacks are amazing when ganking so you don't hit your teammate and ruin their punishes, zones are good for when you get a mass parry (parry 2 or more people in a row) but most importantly remember the character your playing, their strengths, their weaknesses, and remember it isn't a 1v1 so don't focus 1 guy only and remember to target swap to make your attacks seem "faster"

[@drkingdre_]

@@sergmcmuffin thank you very much 😊

[@1riv3rrr]

Hard to make an opinion list with chat on but I enjoyed listening to what an 8 yr pro thinks of the game in this technical language after watching for you for so many years. I hope the devs bring the game into a better state this year it sounds like the team is doing some backlog cleanup from retrired teams and theyre listening to the community some!

[@ozulp]

this aint an opinion tier list this dude has been playing for 5+ years im 100% sure he knows where to rank people

[@facundopegue2943]

thanks a lot

[@joseariasvalenzuela6612]

Kinda shocked warden is above warmommy considering he called her "reliable warden" lol

[@booniedox]

14:28....so I'm not crazy

[@leongooders9161]

Is shaman really that bad? She is my highest character by far and i do best with her, tbf because of this im probably pretty biased but i just dont see it

[@TyrziR6S]

In 4v4 her ganks are just weak and there’s better options

[@onimusha9193]

My boi cent needs a buff 😭

[@Me-il8og]

The arkus6414 guy in the chat is honestly brain dead😂😂

[@srafnos2073]

Three assassins on s tier for teammodes, never thought that I'd live to see it

[@TheConCarlos]

And tbh, I don't have too much of a problem fighting afeera, where shino/zerl/roach are boiling my blood

[@Booty_WarriorGaming]

Most assassins the cough cough the Spamurai got reworks that basically swapped them over to Hybrids like assassin’s are fast yet risky what’s the point of calling the character an assassin’s when their only weaknesses is a GB

[@TheConCarlos]

@@Booty_WarriorGaming not even gb bruh, when external dodge attacks exist

[@TheConCarlos]

@@juiceboxbzrk me too, but firstly, she’s rarely seen than these three, she has way worse teamfight in my opinion. After playing her to 20 rep non stop, I grew bored because her kit is kinda predictable.

[@alexholmes8714]

@@TheConCarlosyeah she’s definitely strong and even though she has the same mixups and dodge cancels as shinobi for some reason she annoys me way less.

[@eddyjimenez2961]

Ooooohhhh, including feats???? Not at all what I was looking for cool list though. I guess

[@0hJuicy]

Faraam, on the 2nd channel pls play the finals season 2. They went all out.

[@fireflame5296]

Imo, I dont believe character tier lists should be based on feats at all. There should be separate tier lists specifically for each category. Bc a character can be really bad but be placed high because of feats and that just doesnt seem right that an ability with a cooldown gets them different placement. But, there should also be a tier list based solely on heros with the best feats

[@fireflame5296]

@@juiceboxbzrk most feats are passive or throwable and dont do much to affect the base character. For example, centurion and gladiator both get haymaker which adds 5 dmg to each bash. Maybe its good with gladiator, but with cent its kinda pointless unless you're spamming punch and kick, it doesnt change the viablility of the characters moveset. Cent will still be cent with just a tad more damage. Then theres throwables, ill use cent again as an example. He has a throwing knife that stuns the opponent, which is nice and really good, but it goes on a cool down meaning that It cant be used on more than one person until the cool down passes so it doesnt make much of a difference in 4s, where you have to fight more than one person. Something related to cooldowns is that feats arent set in stone on the character, each character has a good sized selection of feats so they arent always the same from character to character, even if you're playing a mirror match in characters they can be using an entirely different set of feats. Then theres also the fact that there are gamemodes that dont use feats. 1v1, 2v2, weekly quests, etc if theres more. Imo for these reasons the lists should be separate. One should be the actual characters viability and the other should be a characters conditional viability depending on chosen feats and their usablility.

[@bemjanim138]

Okay guys here me out pk is b tier, she probably feeds the least revenge in the game since her heavies do 15 damage and dagger only feeds one revenge,deep gouge also can gank with proper timing,in team fights she has dogde cancels and for external pressure you can dogde foward roll catch feint for 21 damage in total or you can bleed another opponent then start a chain on that bled person and just target switch for a 33 damage wide sweep unblockable and she can bleed through revenge armor

[@yodaiam7592]

They need to add tank 4s just dominion

[@miairuha]

Thank you, finally someone rate PK as low as it is.

[@Setuaro]

You know shit ain't adding up if Nuxia & HL are on the same tier.

[@guitaridiot9000]

they better not nerf my VG. I love her

[@thesoup4174]

The only opinion I trust

[@souzaananiasadvocacia1663]

Berserker? Are u kiding us

[@gavinwatschke9179]

Ubi let warmonger bash after heavies plz

[@zankuronkiryu1381]

I'm curious, why I don't see a lot of S tier heroes in matches?

[@bruh.525]

Everyone plays who they want, the game is more or less balanced

[@zankuronkiryu1381]

@@bruh.525 I thought its always unbalanced and on rare ocassion you might encounter 4 shinobis or orochi or else

[@bruh.525]

@@zankuronkiryu1381 yeah, of course some characters will be better than others, however you can be good playing anyone except maybe conqueror

[@zankuronkiryu1381]

@@bruh.525 lol poor conq

[@StormtrooperH313]

Sad Conq 😢

[@MohammedS2001]

I feel u man 😔

[@hokkaido9932]

Is the game worth it? After this update I became interested

[@yentarooo]

It's a solid game. You do have to learn and suffer a bit to get good, so keep it in mind.

[@Me-il8og]

I have never seen someone say shaman need buffs

[@mena10ss]

I love it when I say buff shaman and everyone looks at me like I'm crazy. Glad someone agrees with me 😂

[@sydious_s_snake]

Buff her in Dom sure, just as much PK needs bigger buffs than the one she received. But the moment you touch her in duels in any way, she becomes the strongest duelist in the game, she's already borderline the strongest so they're treading a very thin line on what they can do without pushing her up even higher in duels

[@mena10ss]

@@sydious_s_snake It's more quality changes like range and recoveries. Her zone is especially so bad on range that you can whiff in 1v1s sometimes because you have to literally be hugging your opponent to reach them. Other than her leaping attacks, all her lights and heavy also have ridiculously small trajectories, making it almost impossible to participate in the "target swap meta" in 4v4s. Hell, even PK can do that to a degree, and PK is currently trying to get even more buffs in 4v4s.

[@DemonXbountyX]

@mena10ss you are crazy ​@@sydious_s_snake I completely agree shaman is probably one of the most annoying duelist definitely a S tier when it comes to duels. And I can't imagine a move catered to dom that would make her any better than she already is. I mean sure she has a move that should be a goal of hers to pull off that may get interrupted but that doesn't mean she's automatically F tier like if you are just matchmaking with randoms it's not like people don't interrupt medjays grab or other characters constantly in a gank. But she's already got her own mix-ups with soft feints and generally doesn't need any kinds of buffs. Now @mena10ss peacekeeper being below shaman is crazy. peace keeper can't even soft feint into bleed multiple directions and her animations are way more telegraphed imo. Sure peace keeper gets unblockables when she bleeds her opponent which is useful in ganks. But shaman heals off bleed and has a unblockable finisher, and so does berserker which both work extremely well in ganks, with the right set ups.

[@DemonXbountyX]

​@@mena10ss her zones range is the last thing you should be worried about, sure it doesn't have the forward movement of berzerks, and sure if she completely whiffs it takes her a second but it's soft feintable and an easy way too apply bleed, infact probably the most common way players new too shaman who don't know she has softfeits do it. Complaining about her zone is like saying glads zone is bad and it's literally glads safest move.

[@DemonXbountyX]

@mena10ss also if you are having t-rex arm's as shaman the easiest way too get into position is her bash

[@freddyyes5291]

Valk is A Tier? I play her wrong. 😂

[@beanertales]

Am i tripping or did he forget warmonger?

[@Emilio-lz5ux]

Id bring down Nobushi to B or C. Great ganking yes, but very bad 1v1 against a good player. Shes only good in dominion sadly

[@VDxVicious]

This is a dominion tear list buddy .

[@VDxVicious]

Nice vid, turn your music down ffs 😂

[@Faraam1]

gotcha =D

[@Tayate_]

everything you said about shaman is true but that placement was delusional. Her and musha with those soft feints are immediate B's

[@revolverclassic8248]

how does everyone put Shaman that low, I feel like I'm insane. I can't react to her soft-feints into bleed, she's got a really good bash mixup and is really slippery. She's definitely not amazing, but I really don't see how she's *that* bad

[@TyrziR6S]

This is 4v4 dude, she’s great 1v1 but in ganks she’s terrible

[@iiBeanii]

Factual actual

[@jweatha05]

Hito is S for sure. So op

[@ShineDeLa]

Not S tier for sure A Tier probably

[@__-fi6xg]

i hate how predictable kensei got, the last few reworks streamlined his mixup from 3 potential combos to 1 and it feels really bad in 4s imo.

[@jayjones4175]

Gryphon needs a buff still. The best way to beat gryphon is to block

[@freddyyes5291]

What would you buff?

[@jayjones4175]

@@freddyyes5291 he needs a unblockable in his chain. All of his bashes are way to easy to react to

[@freddyyes5291]

@@jayjones4175 which part of Chain? Heavy finisher?

[@jayjones4175]

@@freddyyes5291 idk honestly they could try and make him unique by making his unblockable the second hit in his chain

[@freddyyes5291]

@@jayjones4175 everything is fine, I understand what you mean, as a Valk main I have very similar problems. Only the unblockable one will not solve his problem, because the part of the player base that can react to the bash's can also react to the unblockable ones, the most important step would be to make the opening and the kick faster, that you can't react to them and thus dodge or not dodge. All in all, I think the griffin is a pretty well-rounded hero.

[@00badcompany90]

Look I been since day one.. I agree with most.. but Warlord is heavy.. his DMG is one of lowest heros heavy.. hear me out.. against a very good player his headbutt is very seldom hit and easily guard Broken or bash against.. Warlord if I'm not mistaken.is ONLY hero that nothing to make you take a gamble with..no unblockable, he has no feint to make you guess on anything..has Nothing to make you guess what he going do.next but lite and headbutt his stamina lvls one of worse in game and his heavy who actually gets a heavy off against a high lvl fight? You throw a lite , feints heavy which everyone does throws a lite.. people actually guess 50/50 which lite coming from and is a lite parry... feint a heavy into a headbutt and they back dodge most time and free guard break and heavy... .. I rep 550+ I love the game but they need to fix a few other classes I stead of always fixing warden or whatever.. love warlord not my.main but my favorite and he's probably the most boring to play... There are few other hero they should all throw in testing ground and see how goes .. I was.one.of the first nuxixa in game hot 70 she needs help.. ..just wish they would work on a handful of heros instead of always fixing the favorite heros everyone plays..no need to give warden a new skin when they already have now 5 skins? Wu Lin has none,. Just my two cents from a day one player.. love your videos..keep it up

[@1999worldjacob]

Here’s a thought for raider. They changed his stunning tap to storming tap, how about they change it again to be a bash? Keep the same damage and have it deal direct damage and chain. Nothing changes much except that now raider has bash pressure from neutral and in chain

[@NotLagavulin]

So you mean you want a 400ms mid chain bash that deals direct damage? You do realise you always need to react between parry the heavy or dodge the bash if it’s get soff feinted. Or just do big reads all the time and dodge attack which leads raider with insane 1v1 pressure. And lets not talk about all the gank potentioal raider would provide with a 400ms bash that could be chain over and over again 💀

[@smuludgn]

We have 34 heroes. Its insane...

[@kanjilearnin24]

With more coming lol😂

[@ixsexo2428]

​@@kanjilearnin24 we might have 40 someday

[@rokasciurinskas7890]

and yet they can't give them armour each season anymore no money apparently@@kanjilearnin24

[@habitualassassin3943]

Best part is I still see every hero being played. Well except for Nuxia she’s kind of rare tbh lol

[@spartacro761]

I'm sorry did I just saw you saying that BP is A tear in dominion?! Lol mate he's at least S if not S+ 😂😂😂

[@ShineDeLa]

Bruh no

[@SimpthePretty]

WHAAT?!!? SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU

[@landinyuzefpolsky9080]

I personally think glad is S tier considering his kit and mix ups are incredibly versatile

[@ketaminewomble2562]

super high skewer damage with a guaranteed teammate heavy after but terrible opener trajectory which is why he isnt very good in a 1vX situation

[@landinyuzefpolsky9080]

Oh in a gank yeah definitely falls off agreed

[@mcchillin7580]

@@landinyuzefpolsky9080s tier 😭😭 glad’s notoriously one of the worst characters in game rn.

[@ketaminewomble2562]

@juiceboxbzrk well they used to be, orochi is an incredible antiganker as well, while some characters that are meant to be good in teamfights only really excel in 1v1s. The archetype means virtually nothing now. All it really affects are what feats/perks they might have

[@landinyuzefpolsky9080]

​@@mcchillin7580 when I say versatile it means he has very good options to open up and maneuver I should also mention he has a very small window to be guard broken. He has an option to shield bash off dodge which makes it very hard to bait him into a parry. And he is an absolute menace in a gank cause of the best moves in the game via footstab which delivers insane pressure that he can combo if missed or not. Oh and let's not forget his zone which is also the best in the game

[@DownFuerBauenHighFuer3]

i had this thought for a while know but i think n ow im sure i believe Faraam is german or at least lives and speaks the language bc eventhough his accent isnt as noticable the way he says some thinks and how he says "ezettera" i have the feeling he is. could be wrong tho

[@Faraam1]

I am german! =D

[@marcobst9322]

Sauber Keule@@Faraam1

[@DownFuerBauenHighFuer3]

@@Faraam1 yippie wusste es aber dein englisch ist ehrlich gut mach weiter so :)

[@Mocaknight]

Pk gross. Lights are a monster

[@Booty_WarriorGaming]

Her lights….that’s it

[@ZyMbol_Silence]

Day 7 of asking Faraam to play with a controller

[@Pay_Becks]

Faraam, you are German?

[@Pay_Becks]

Das ist doch NRW Englisch xD

[@Faraam1]

@@Pay_Becks neee vom rheinland😜

[@Pay_Becks]

@Faraam1 Bester Mann, dank dir hab ich meine Liebe zu for Honor wieder entdeckt 😂

[@morimimorimi4880]

A for Average

[@thelonewolf1414]

Shaman is D tier?! Why?

[@angel3pointoo173]

Day 385 of commenting for the sole purpose of getting 420 Days on April 20th *This comment is also definitely not edited btw

[@jadenabraham3512]

Sad conq

[@souzaananiasadvocacia1663]

Valk HAHAH

[@komaagod]

yoooooo

[@Ry777Ro]

Stop requesting anti gank vids, farrra is the only anti gank ever. IMO if there’s 3 people on you just stall as long as you can 🤪

[@alex_0834]

Why is the Slayer cool?🙂🥲

[@Kroda-]

Shaman does NOT need a buff. Wayy too powerful

[@ShineDeLa]

are you fine ?