The REAL Jose Chavez y Chavez: Pal of Billy the Kid

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The Wild West Extravaganza

The Wild West Extravaganza

Жыл бұрын

One of the more memorable characters from Young Guns 1 and 2 was Chavez y Chavez, portrayed by the talented Lou Diamond Philips. And yes, Chavez was real! He was a constable in San Patricio and an ally of the Tunstall McSween faction during the Lincoln County War. Jose was a full participant in the troubles and was present during the Battle of Lincoln, making a getaway from the burning McSween home alongside Billy the Kid. But who was Jose Chavez y Chavez really? Was he a Navajo as popularly believed? And how did he become a hired assassin? Also discussed in this episode is Chavez’s encounter with Bob Ford and the other Regulators and friends of Billy the Kid, guys like Henry Newton Brown, George and Frank Coe, Ab Saunders, John Middleton, Billy Wilson, Tom Pickett, and more! I also give my opinion on what really happened there at Fort Sumner on the night of Billy’s alleged death and discuss The Kid’s “body count”. #wildwest #history #americanoldwestfacts #billythekid
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@themulletteer6839
@themulletteer6839 Жыл бұрын
Extravaganza time! Good on you brother for going into the "side" characters to the western heavy hitters. Many historical tellings leave these contributors to the wayside, or worse attribute their deeds to others that fit the media portrayal of the story. Keep the history alive my friend!
@ronaldanglada-chavez8545
@ronaldanglada-chavez8545 7 ай бұрын
Haha nobody even gives mother Spain and her children the credit due. They invented the cowboys, and helped trailblaze this continent before anybody else. Chavez y Chavez belonged to this fierce and noble bloodlines. But unfortunately a curse appears to have limited us. I call it the Spanish curse
@gunnarjordan6980
@gunnarjordan6980 8 ай бұрын
Huge Billy the Kid enthusiast here. Love his story and knowing the history of those around him. Great video! Thanks!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@BEEZYS-WORLD
@BEEZYS-WORLD 8 ай бұрын
Same here I was just in Lincoln County and ft Sumner taking it all in
@claytonhass5117
@claytonhass5117 Жыл бұрын
A timeline in which Billy the kid would have survived long enough to be interviewed by Joe Rogan would have been something
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
"Woah, you killed a Sheriff...that's crazy. Jamie pull up that clip of the chimpanzee with mange"
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 Жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan is an idiot and I absolutely will not listen to the opinion of anyone idiot enough to believe the moon landings were a hoax, talk about feeble mindedness that's it right there, allowing yourself to be talked into that malarkey.
@swampghost72
@swampghost72 11 ай бұрын
That's funny right there..Joe Rogan interviewing Billy the kid lmao..I can definitely picture that one.SOOO!! YOU WERE STANDING THERE GUN IN HAND GRITING YOUR TEETH WITH THIS MENACING LOOK ON YOUR FACE ALL PISSED OFF AND THEN YOU RAISE YOUR WEAPON AND BAMMMM!!!!! BILLY WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND AT THAT TIME WHEN YOU PULLED THE TRIGGER? I MEAN YOU ACTUALLY KILLED THE SHERIFF WHAT IS THAT LIKE .
@Evolution_10_X
@Evolution_10_X 11 ай бұрын
The gay little zoomers today I'm sure would ruin that. He would be labeled a toxic masculine bigot.
@gilbertgurule5395
@gilbertgurule5395 8 ай бұрын
They would have discussed the extinct oso plateado (mexican grizzly bear) as Billy probably had a story or two about them
@Heyzeus101
@Heyzeus101 5 ай бұрын
Young Gun Chavez is one of my favorite cinematic outlaws. His real story is so interesting! Great podcast!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 5 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@basementboise1181
@basementboise1181 Жыл бұрын
Love your podcast. Great voice. Excellent story telling. Thank you for the entertainment.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Thank you for listening
@jonhenson5450
@jonhenson5450 10 ай бұрын
​@@WildWestExtravaganzasuper work, may I ask what part of TX you are from? It may explain your practical reasoning of some of this . What town?
@michaelramirez5969
@michaelramirez5969 Жыл бұрын
"It's an ancient Navajo word.. it means stop."
@gachakeaoshi384
@gachakeaoshi384 9 ай бұрын
He got "corrected" when lou diamond Phillips went to the Navajo reservation. Look it up
@tmoney3457
@tmoney3457 Ай бұрын
Atsi atsi
@chipmusick682
@chipmusick682 Жыл бұрын
I wish there was an emoji with the sound of a baseball being knocked out of the park, it would save me a lot of trouble...it's great to know more about the other people in the L.C.W. Can't wait for the Pat Garrett episode, he is an interesting character in the Kid's saga...almost tragic...No need to tell you to keep up the great work, I know you will! Much Thanks!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Chip!
@rialobran
@rialobran Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to next Wednesday and the 'Guy nobody has ever heard of', I've been waiting for you to do him. As always a brilliant episode.
@chucklehead2000
@chucklehead2000 Жыл бұрын
I totally did that Eagles thing when I drove through Winslow Arizona.
@swhip897
@swhip897 Жыл бұрын
Love your skepticism.. Great show. ❤
@jabronisauce6833
@jabronisauce6833 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh Chavez Chavez forever love the legend and yes because of YOUNG GUNS so good they named him twice lol
@MurderHornet-mo3tm
@MurderHornet-mo3tm Жыл бұрын
"did u guys see the size of that fcking chicken"
@alanleemaxwell831
@alanleemaxwell831 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to this!! Thanks Josh 👍🇬🇧😉
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@fierce8215
@fierce8215 10 ай бұрын
Man what a time, one day a person could be the County Marshall or a sheriff's deputy and by the end of the week stealing cattle or robbing a bank only to wake up Monday morning and do it again!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 10 ай бұрын
Yep
@samwell707
@samwell707 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one.
@paultrento1479
@paultrento1479 Жыл бұрын
You are the best brochacho !
@MTGAttitude
@MTGAttitude Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, just want to say that I love the content. Good, bad or indifferent, you tell the whole truth. It's refreshing to hear your vernacular as well. Job well done, keep up the great content
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dennistate5953
@dennistate5953 Жыл бұрын
Quit lookin at his dern vernacular! I done called dibs and duels at dawn! And thank you bothest the mostest!
@MTGAttitude
@MTGAttitude Жыл бұрын
@@dennistate5953 Well played Dennis...well played
@AIRRAID2
@AIRRAID2 Жыл бұрын
In my heart It will forever be known as The Bloody Beaver podcast❤ Hope all is well with your family. Thanks man🌵🐍🦎🐎🐎🤠
@catholiccrusader5328
@catholiccrusader5328 Жыл бұрын
Josh, you are so right, man. These are the good old days.
@ronaldanglada-chavez8545
@ronaldanglada-chavez8545 7 ай бұрын
He was a member of Vicente Silvas gang. They were one of the first mafia gang members. I have a book on the entire gang, with photos of Vicente, and a rare photo of Chavez y Chavez. Contact me if you want more information.
@ericcrawford3453
@ericcrawford3453 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff keep them coming!
@westt9030
@westt9030 Жыл бұрын
We're getting the gang back together, pals!
@murraymelville3901
@murraymelville3901 Жыл бұрын
Pals!chisled On my gravestone
@josephbuehl9429
@josephbuehl9429 Жыл бұрын
Good luck with that
@westt9030
@westt9030 Жыл бұрын
@@murraymelville3901 someone snuk in there and made that happen
@josephrodriguez9620
@josephrodriguez9620 Жыл бұрын
​@@murraymelville3901 😅😅😅😅u
@dennistate5953
@dennistate5953 Жыл бұрын
So close to the old West o'days o'yore we still hold close for love's sake a tad bit just somewhere around; enough to share contemporaneously and extemporaneously in Chattanooga or a fair more than few folks fine hearts today. Thanks Josh.
@dannysimmons3167
@dannysimmons3167 Жыл бұрын
Well technically he lived to see WW 2, just missed American involvement
@kevincurry8350
@kevincurry8350 Жыл бұрын
"Did you know we're in the spirit world?"
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Look at the size of that chicken
@michaelcampbell425
@michaelcampbell425 Жыл бұрын
We're Invisible 😂
@chaffcutter58.
@chaffcutter58. 2 ай бұрын
Just subbed , i listen to you when I wake up early, rea Ly enjoy your analytical breakdown of ' Brushy Bill " Roberts, oh and I hope you get that roll in young guns 3!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy!!!
@leeman2007
@leeman2007 3 ай бұрын
love your channel. be nice to see other photos during your videos though
@jasonbrown9490
@jasonbrown9490 8 ай бұрын
Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright.
@user-cg6vb8ci5x
@user-cg6vb8ci5x 9 ай бұрын
List to your show all the time great stuff
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated
@gmbnchaz5323
@gmbnchaz5323 4 ай бұрын
obsessed w billy and nevada history!! great storyteller!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 ай бұрын
Glad you're liking it!
@sherryhead6239
@sherryhead6239 5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ I love all the regulates my favorite is Charlie bandery❤❤❤
@mrg8920
@mrg8920 Жыл бұрын
Love your stuff josh! Keep up the great work and you better blow my socks off with this "man with no name" dude next wednesday
@mrg8920
@mrg8920 Жыл бұрын
Also I had no idea you had a KZbin till you mentioned it. I'll keep listening on Spotify of course, still cool that you're branching out your platform though. When will I see your name under a true west article?
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Haha, you'll have to ask them
@charliesexton2083
@charliesexton2083 Жыл бұрын
Have enjoyed your content since bloody beaver. Always interesting and humorous. You sound like Danny McBride.😂🤣😂
@Chrisrk11
@Chrisrk11 Жыл бұрын
Love the content brother I was looking through your videos and haven’t seen anything I may have missed it but have you ever done anything on Jesse James just wondering keep up the good work
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Not yet. Soon.
@user-vk6bq8rw6m
@user-vk6bq8rw6m Жыл бұрын
Great episode! I have a topic you should do; The Rogue River war, I have done tons of research on it and I would like to see if you come up with similar things.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
It's on the list!
@michaelowens5522
@michaelowens5522 8 ай бұрын
❤ love this site❤ awesome job brother❤
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
Thanks man
@Slipthejab152
@Slipthejab152 9 ай бұрын
Great Pod.. Really Interesting... Keep It Up Brother!!!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@Slipthejab152
@Slipthejab152 9 ай бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza Always
@JWheeler331
@JWheeler331 2 ай бұрын
Good stuff as always of course.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 ай бұрын
Thanks man
@Dirty2Clean1980
@Dirty2Clean1980 8 ай бұрын
That’s crazy this whole week I’ve been calling my homie Chavez Chavez and this popped up. Young guns was one of my favorites when I was younger and still a great film and one of my all time flicks.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
KZbin be listening
@toponeroc
@toponeroc Жыл бұрын
He clearly is not Native American, he looks Mexican with Spaniard roots, he has grey or green eyes in that picture.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Wait until you learn what Mexicans are
@jgonzogonzo3896
@jgonzogonzo3896 8 ай бұрын
A little of everything I’m 40% indigenous americas-Mexico 40% spaniard 13% Portugal 3%basque and a bunch of 1 percent
@dirty_money5439
@dirty_money5439 10 ай бұрын
Just found your channel! Time to binge 😂
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 10 ай бұрын
Binge away, good sir
@dwightcurrie8316
@dwightcurrie8316 Жыл бұрын
I have to take a small issue with Billy being the most famous outlaw of all time.......Jesse James was Nationally Famous while still alive and kicking, while Billy became a national Hero/Villain long after his death, but he was definitely famous in NM and surrounding environs. Mt vote will always go to Jesse, as the Most Famous Old West Outlaw of all time & Jesse would definitely agree with me, but what do I know?
@ADogandHisBoy
@ADogandHisBoy 8 ай бұрын
Ditto
@ChrisBarnette-zk8iy
@ChrisBarnette-zk8iy 8 ай бұрын
I love the old wild west stories. Would loved to have grown up in that era even though, I'd probably get shot or some strange illness. Glad I found your channel.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you found it too
@sarawhitfield5415
@sarawhitfield5415 Жыл бұрын
man I've searched forever for more details on that Las Vegas Bob Ford run-in but could never find much was praying going into this that you had more to that particular puzzle but alas I guess there is no more to be found boo
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
It might not even be true. I will try to find an original source.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Bad Josh
@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse
@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse Жыл бұрын
That Henry Brown letter was kinda heartbreaking.
@glasair38sr
@glasair38sr Жыл бұрын
Thanks bee-otch! I trust that all is well with the fam. And don’t fuckin’ forget me if you ever do any livestreams or episodes with any Wild West outlaw docs (or how they completely fucked shit up way more than they helped). If ya had a lick o’ damn sense, you’d turn tail & haul ass if you saw ‘ol Saw Bones headed your way! Still gotta hear the Lindsay Graham story someday. As my corporate ass hats have emblazoned within any tagline they fiddle with, I leave yiu with a *sincere* ‘Thanks for all you do’. Deuces! ;-)
@LuisGomez-pg2qk
@LuisGomez-pg2qk Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Love it when they tell the truth about regulators 👍
@podunkmissouri4999
@podunkmissouri4999 Жыл бұрын
We're gonna die in here. And he's out there doing it with his horse!
@russellcampbell3500
@russellcampbell3500 7 ай бұрын
Regulators lets ride. Wooooooo
@user-wy1dv2qk5o
@user-wy1dv2qk5o Ай бұрын
Fred wait is buried in my hometown of Sulphur Oklahoma
@TEXAS.N8V
@TEXAS.N8V Ай бұрын
My grandmother was born in Hanover, New Mexico, her maiden name was Chavez. I wonder if there’s any connection.
@SirKnight1096
@SirKnight1096 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of Apaches, check out the Chiricahua put on the Mescalero Reservation in New Mexico. They weren't exactly besties, if you know what I mean.
@jonkeathley3772
@jonkeathley3772 Жыл бұрын
It's about time you stopped doin it with your horse and did a set about ol Chavez lol Keep on keepin on brotha
@davidvilla827
@davidvilla827 Жыл бұрын
This channel is badass
@hellraiser639
@hellraiser639 2 ай бұрын
He's doing it with his horse!
@mrpnut801
@mrpnut801 Жыл бұрын
Have you thought about doing a brief history about these old west town's like Las Vegas, NM, Deadwood or Tombstone.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Yessir
@jabronisauce6833
@jabronisauce6833 Жыл бұрын
Is Deadwood still a town?
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
It is. Big tourist destination.
@tims.3950
@tims.3950 Жыл бұрын
I was going to ask the same thing.
@jonkeathley3772
@jonkeathley3772 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear Josh's take on the stories of some of the great wild west towns. i've read some good stuff on deadwood, tombstone, and even dodge city all interesting and with Josh's way of story telling would be awesome.
@plymouthduster225
@plymouthduster225 Жыл бұрын
Any chance of maybe doing a podcast video on Texas Jack Omohundro? He a man from the old west that seemed to have done and seen alot in his short 33 years.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Yep, one of these days
@tims.3950
@tims.3950 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bustamango863
@bustamango863 Жыл бұрын
Oh Christ chases that’s all we need is more of your redass mambaho jahambaho we’re running outta time.
@jonahhex8178
@jonahhex8178 Жыл бұрын
They can't see us. We're in the spirit world.
@troybullard9631
@troybullard9631 Жыл бұрын
@@jonahhex8178 "Hey Dawg, did yooo see the size of that chicken ?"
@fishdude666ify
@fishdude666ify 10 ай бұрын
"What was that you were yelling?" "It's an old Navajo word. It means stop."
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 10 ай бұрын
Great scene
@grayman556
@grayman556 11 ай бұрын
I could see Billy being a modern day smuggler like Berry Seal.
@ronaldanglada-chavez8545
@ronaldanglada-chavez8545 7 ай бұрын
Antonio Jose Valdez, was the man who shot Vicente silva, not Chavvez.
@jaytrace1006
@jaytrace1006 Жыл бұрын
So, the bar contained the billiard tables owned by Dick Little, and his balls.
@toddchafe1703
@toddchafe1703 8 ай бұрын
Like your shows Amegio...however...you quote Danny and others on their take on Billys life of 'crime" so called.And i do LOVE all your videos.....HOWEVER ...you do greatly skim over or lightly mention the Santa fe ring and the levels of goverment the had control of and minipulated. I would like to hear your DEEP dive into the ring...how they murdered and used the courts and media which they may or may not have controled to their means. As allways ...thank you.
@tims.3950
@tims.3950 Жыл бұрын
What would it cost me to sponsor an episode? Something modest like "This week's episode brought to you by...Tim. And welcome back."
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Email me
@patrickryan2337
@patrickryan2337 6 ай бұрын
He could have left new Mexico and if he stopped killing he could have lived the rest off his life like buzsy bill Roberts
@jonahhex8178
@jonahhex8178 Жыл бұрын
Josh posts a video, everything else goes on hold.
@sevensohigh2083
@sevensohigh2083 Жыл бұрын
Thank you bubba!!!! We appreciate you!! Whats up family!
@terrioestreich4007
@terrioestreich4007 Жыл бұрын
I end up feeling sorry for the bad guy, what the heck
@robsim4692
@robsim4692 Жыл бұрын
Jesse James and Billy the kid were best friends! They even carved "Billy and Jesse forever" in a tree in Alabama! I saw it myself! Right under it says "the only thing Wyatt Earp likes more than a good partner is a threesome of Roosters"
@thebestninja80
@thebestninja80 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if Chavez y Chavez was born in Los Chavez 🤔 if he was from Valencia county. Either way shout out to Meadow Lake Valencia county desde Los Padillas Nuevo Mexico. And about giving New Mexico a breather if life hasn't neither should KZbin
@kerrylangman214
@kerrylangman214 7 ай бұрын
Paulita Maxwell had a very low opinion of Chevez....when he and BTK made their first appearance in Ft Sumner in probably as late as 1879....
@DanielCastro-oe5we
@DanielCastro-oe5we 7 ай бұрын
can you do one on Stillwell and where they buried him officially. Please
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 7 ай бұрын
Good suggestion
@DanielCastro-oe5we
@DanielCastro-oe5we 7 ай бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza thank you it's been a debate between some friends and I. I am from Tucson, AZ I was sure they buried him here but friend is saying it's elsewhere
@oregonoutback7779
@oregonoutback7779 Жыл бұрын
Maybe think about doing an episode on Dick Liddil. Pretty interesting fellow. If you choose to, I have a side note to add. It seems, after killing Jessy & Franks cousin, he went and hid out in a little town called Beaver (I know, you can't make this stuff up) on the White River, just a stones throw south of the Missouri / Arkansas line, a short distance north of Eureka Springs. There was a $5,000 bounty on his head, but no one there turned him in because folks around those parts were so poor, they didn't believe that much money actually existed. Have no idea if this story is true, but all the old timers in western Carrol County, Arkansas swear by it.
@MicahBell_1860
@MicahBell_1860 Жыл бұрын
Is it true that Billy Wilson & Tom Pickett are infact 1960s Soul artist & songwriter Wilson Pickett's Grandpappies? Josh! You need to be asking the important, hard hitting questions!!!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Good question!
@MicahBell_1860
@MicahBell_1860 Жыл бұрын
& I need to spell check my replies@@WildWestExtravaganza !!!
@chipmusick682
@chipmusick682 Жыл бұрын
and I have heard from "reliable" sources that Sally Chisum's nickname was in fact "Mustang Sally"!!!! Please rest assured that I am digging deeper into the Kid's connections with Wilson Pickett...a.k.a "The Wicked Pickett"...will keep you posted!
@chrispressnell1150
@chrispressnell1150 8 ай бұрын
El cervato Billy the kid
@user-dy7gf2im8h
@user-dy7gf2im8h 5 ай бұрын
If Billy was alive today he'd be married to Brittany Spears, doing commercials for axe body spray.
@McDanielRanch
@McDanielRanch Жыл бұрын
Chisums's jingle bob ear cows lived in harsh beautiful country.
@McDanielRanch
@McDanielRanch Жыл бұрын
Witch is how I wonder how any cows could get stolen u ever seen a jingle bob ear mark. I think most people around New Mexico, don't mind buying stolen cattle.😂
@rayhuckhonaker
@rayhuckhonaker 7 ай бұрын
I just curious, Is this Danny McBride narrating this Chavez story. Which is cool because I always wondered if Chavez was a true member of the regulators. What about Dirty Steve? HEY DOG YOU SEE THE SIZE OF THAT CHICKEN
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I'm Danny McBride
@masterchavez3337
@masterchavez3337 7 ай бұрын
🤔 pretty cool
@MicahBell_1860
@MicahBell_1860 Жыл бұрын
I think I need to get myself admitted to the bar, my esteemed learned colleague
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Three John Gresham books and you're good
@ADogandHisBoy
@ADogandHisBoy 8 ай бұрын
Las Vegas New Mexico?
@Zero-0-Cypher
@Zero-0-Cypher 7 ай бұрын
Sorry I couldn't see this... I was in the spirit world.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 7 ай бұрын
Tell the chickens I said hello
@dwightcurrie8316
@dwightcurrie8316 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with Jake about Billy. He was always headed for a"A Short Rope and A Long Drop". He had more than a little Psychopath in his system & was headed to Hell On A Fast Horse. My father always felt sorry for Billy because,like my Father, Billy had "Lost his Mama" at an early age, but that was based on Little real info and a Sympathetic mind set on my Father's part, but he is the Man who spurred my interest in Billy, Jesse, Wyatt, Doc and the rest. That "Interest has never left me, and I'm certain it never will. BTW: My compliments on your delivery, sense of humor and turn of phrase, Josh
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 Жыл бұрын
I've never read or heard a single thing about Billy that would suggest he was a psychopath or "cold blooded" by any stretch of the imagination, he wasn't the kind that robbed citizens, stagecoach's, banks or anything like that, the only known crimes outside of what happened in a range war, if you can call the events that happened in them crimes, weren't anymore than some modern day teenage equivalent of siphoning gas. Billy was just some kid making the best of a bad situation he was in, the people he stood up against were the kind of scumbags that swindled people out of their life savings through dirty real estate deals, preying on people who'd come west, often from other countries, just trying to find a better life only to be swindled by a bunch of corrupt hucksters who had the law and politics in their pockets, along with the newspapers which means you can control what the general population thinks. I also don't believe he was even 21 when he was killed, more than one source who knew him personally would have put his age at 19 when he was killed, the problem with the belief that he was 21 is that comes from Pat Garrett's book and he'd be the first one to want people to believe that he killed a 21 year old as opposed to a teenager. Modern day fact checkers have gone to the church that Garrett's coauthor of the book claimed he went to in NY to confirm Billy's birth date and not only do they not have any record of his birth they also don't have any record of Garrett's coauthor ever coming and looking it up, several first hand accounts from people that Billy was in school with around the age of 12 would have made Billy 19 when he was killed.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
I partially agree. A lot of people who knew Billy thought he was about a year younger than stated in Garrett's book and there is no proof, as of yet, that the Kid was born in New York. He likely was just 20 at the time of his death. As far as a psycho, no...I don't think he was a psycho. I also don't think he was just some kid caught up in a bad situation. Billy was a career thief, even before entering Lincoln County and took part in murder, including the murder of a Sheriff. That ain't exactly syphoning gas. After everyone else left the Territory, he stayed and continued to steal. Much like Jake in Lonesome Dove, Billy took his leaving a little too slow.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 Жыл бұрын
@@WildWestExtravaganza The killing you're talking about was self defense, that's well known, everyone who was a witness to it said that. And it's real convenient the Sheriff you bring up without talking about him, he's one of the people who was part of the aforementioned corrupt ring and his crew was part and partial to Tunstall's murder, you yourself have pointed out in how many bios of these old west characters that one day someone's an outlaw and the next a lawman, but then to demonize Billy you want to put it that "he was part of killing a "Sheriff". Obviously you've never been in the situation Billy was, I have, I'm from an area that's so blatantly corrupt it's sickening, my best friend was murdered by his girlfriend when she shot him in the back of his head, his 19 year old daughter and myself watched him lay in a hospital bed for 2 months with half a head dying the most horrible death you could imagine, then we experienced something even worse, her getting off for it. See my idiot friend had put that trash girlfriend of his in his will, she was to get half of a life insurance policy and home equity money that equalled $70,000 for her but when you murder someone you're not supposed to be allowed to benefit from their death, so her share should go to his daughter by default. Enter our blatantly corrupt county government, her defense attorneys father who owns the law firm controls county politics, he's the chair of the democratic party in a county where every single political position has been held by a Democrat for 100+ years, and his uncle was the judge. The son had just graduated law school and passed his BAR exam and was in need of having a revenue stream start flowing, by signing her interests in my friends will over to him that assured she'd get off, and here's where the corrupt local newspaper controlled by the corrupt forces comes into play, the jury forman works for the newspaper, a newspaper that it's common knowledge is beholden to that lawfirm because it's their advertising money that keeps them in payroll. Her guilt was so obvious and her defense was so silly that a young court bailiff who hasn't been around long enough to understand our county's goings-on actually told my friends daughter one day during the trial "I see these trials all the time and don't worry, there's no way she's getting off", I explained to my friends daughter and his family that that girl was too young and inexperienced with our county and it's shenanigans to know what was going on and that they need to start calling the state attorneys office and start barking about what's going on with this trial and the things like someone being on the jury that was highly inappropriate being on it from having business ties with the defenses firm, but no one would listen, everyone thought it was going to be a slam dunk guilty verdict, which is exactly what they wanted them to think, until it was too late. In a nutshell they stole $70,000 dollars off a 19 year old girl whose father was murdered, and did it by letting his murderer go free, oh and of course the newspaper they control put a real good spin on thing's, just like the newspapers put a good spin on the Lincoln County Wars. The day after the verdict my friends family, every single one of them, called me up one at a time and apologized for not listening to me and all ask me "What do we do next?", and I had to explain to every one of them that I tried warning them that once the verdict came in there's nothing that can be done, it's too late now. Every one of us has had to live with the fact that that woman walks around our town a free person, and that my friends family literally paid for that, in every way you can pay for something. Billy stayed in Lincoln County because where else was he supposed to go? He was a kid when all that happened to him and if he'd have been thinking about himself he'd have left, but he felt like he wanted to straighten out Lincoln County, I know he did because I know exactly where his head was, and his "thieving" that you accuse him of continuing doing, was never against anyone that wasn't a part of that corrupt system, even after the trouble started Billy never stole from anyone who wasn't a part of that corrupt power base, he never did a thing to innocent people. Yea, he was just a kid that was in a bad situation, and after what my friends family and I went through a hero for taking the fight right to the front door of a corrupt system.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
My man, ain't no way I'm reading all of that
@PopePhil-IIql7pj
@PopePhil-IIql7pj Жыл бұрын
Chavez E Chavez was Lou Diamond Phillips of course. My magic picture told me so.
@jlemaire9418
@jlemaire9418 Жыл бұрын
My names 'josh'. I'm named after some Jewish dude too. While I truly dig how well you present the History, you're gonna have to get you another Name y name . All that aside, excellent content.
@ericsimpson1176
@ericsimpson1176 Жыл бұрын
Jackson Brown wrote most the song Glenn Fry finished the song. Jackson Brown later stated the incident while " standing on the corner in Winslow Arizona" actually occured in Flagstaff Arizona about 40 miles from Winslow. And yes its true i am a wealth of worthless information.
@jakeoreilly9627
@jakeoreilly9627 4 ай бұрын
sounds like a mobster more than an outlaw.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 ай бұрын
Many were
@rickyhurtt5568
@rickyhurtt5568 11 ай бұрын
Little known fact Fred was John waited great grandfather. Well maybe?
@colinbell896
@colinbell896 Жыл бұрын
He once challenged the coward robert ford the assassin of jesse james to a duel in front of a packed bar...ford slinked away in fear
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
That's the story
@soulrebel6309
@soulrebel6309 Жыл бұрын
"Mexican-Indian you son of a bitch" Young Guns 1
@mikedeer2641
@mikedeer2641 Жыл бұрын
sanderson is the county seat of terrell county and sanderson is the town to mean for bean thats roy bean the law west of the pecos
@gmbnchaz5323
@gmbnchaz5323 4 ай бұрын
dick littte joke got me! i almost spit out my food!!!! second only to "hey you guys!!" saying billy looked like the guy in the goonies in the tin type!
@sarawhitfield5415
@sarawhitfield5415 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry it's just that I watch every old west You Tube content that I know of WWE as well as Arizona Ghost Riders ,Legacy of the West, True West Magazine, Legends of the Old West ,Infamous America as well as a couple of others and NO ONE and I mean NO ONE has ever done one on Harry Tracey A shame Because as a kid I read James D. Horan's books (would check them out from the library constantly) and my favorite chapter from any of them (as much as I am the Supreme Billy Bonney fan) was in fact the section on Harry Tracey I think if you delve into him it might ebd up being possibly one of your favs too' here"s hoping
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
Oh Harry Tracey is coming soon, I promise
@sarawhitfield5415
@sarawhitfield5415 Жыл бұрын
yeah Josh Yeah
@bobbiburger4015
@bobbiburger4015 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of outlaws became lawmen
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Жыл бұрын
And vice versa!
@casteel765
@casteel765 Жыл бұрын
Lou diamond Phillips 😂😂😂
@chrislewis6488
@chrislewis6488 9 ай бұрын
Dick Little not to be confused with former race car driver Dick Trickle
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 9 ай бұрын
Greatest name ever
@elstunnanumerouno5884
@elstunnanumerouno5884 8 ай бұрын
Is this narrated by Danny McBride?
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 ай бұрын
I wish
@lightningstriking7
@lightningstriking7 2 ай бұрын
Not to be mistskened for the 6-eyed diego the martian🥸🥸🥸
@rustyshackleford9017
@rustyshackleford9017 8 ай бұрын
pals
@81millionvotes
@81millionvotes Жыл бұрын
"Man I hate the fucking Eagles"...Lebowski😅😂
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